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This year marks 100 years

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since women over the age of 30 were first given the vote,

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so we celebrate Christian female pioneers past and present.

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Welcome to Songs Of Praise.

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We're in the city of Oxford to hear about a pioneering female minister

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ordained over 100 years ago...

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She was obviously just an incredibly tenacious woman.

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She didn't take no for an answer,

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and that is an inspiration in itself.

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..the first time cameras have filmed a stunning new discovery

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of Elizabethan Christian history...

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It is, in fact, the only object of dress that

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survives from Elizabeth I's wardrobe.

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..and the woman who launched her own Christian magazine.

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Our music this week features hymns written by women, and one of

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the most prolific was 19th-century American hymn writer Fanny Crosby.

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She wrote thousands of hymns,

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and this one is one of her most well-known, Blessed Assurance.

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This is Mansfield College at the University of Oxford where,

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a century ago, a significant moment in Christian history took place.

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It was here that Constance Coltman trained to be the first woman

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in the UK to qualify for ordination.

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She'd started her studies despite the authorities

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warning that there were no guarantees of a woman ever

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becoming a church minister and,

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although she graduated along with male trainees, there was

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one final step before her role could be made official.

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In October 1917, after her graduation,

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the Congregational Church of England and Wales

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formally recognised Constance Coltman as a minister -

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all the more remarkable when you consider that the

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Church of England didn't get women priests until 1992, 75 years later.

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Constance and her husband, Claud, also a minister,

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went on to lead churches across England for over 40 years

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in what's now known as the United Reformed Church.

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Today, I'm meeting 92-year-old Joan French,

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who has fond first-hand memories of Constance.

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So you remember her preaching?

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You remember her going up the steps and preaching?

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I can remember her in the pulpit and,

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when she was in the pulpit, she wore a little hat, like that,

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and a gown which, at my age - I was six when she came - I'd never

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seen before, so it was something that really stayed in my memory.

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-Did it seem unusual to have a woman minister?

-No, perfectly normal.

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-Didn't know it was unusual.

-Cos it was really unusual, wasn't it?

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It was, it was. And I've only come to appreciate that as I was older.

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And, of course, the baton's been passed to you, hasn't it?

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Cos now you teach at Sunday school.

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I try to teach in Sunday school, yes.

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I started while she was still there. They left in 1940.

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So Constance was married to Claud, who was also a minister?

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That's correct, yes. And I remember them together.

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It's an amazing thing, isn't it?

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Cos you think about the culture of the time, you know, women weren't

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necessarily encouraged to work outside the home at all, were they?

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-And yet, here she was.

-Yeah, not many women went to work then.

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And tell me about this photograph.

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So that's Constance in the centre with Claud just behind her.

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It was taken in the gardens at Wolverton.

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She was a wonderful woman, wasn't she?

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To stand out against every other law, and to think she could

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do all that with no prospects of being acknowledged as a graduate.

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-Do you think she was brave?

-I do, I do. She must have been.

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She always seemed calm, quietly spoken,

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but in control, yeah.

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Our next hymn is In Heavenly Love Abiding.

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-Tell me what you know about that hymn.

-Oh, I love that hymn!

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It's wonderful, isn't it?

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The words in it just make you want to follow which, I suppose,

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is what I've done, isn't it? Followed through with the faith,

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following on with Constance.

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This is Hampton Court Palace - home, in the 16th century,

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to another pioneering woman, Queen Elizabeth I.

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Josie d'Arby has been allowed in to see a new piece of Tudor history.

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The experts here at Hampton Court are incredibly excited to

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have found something very special that dates back to

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Queen Elizabeth I herself, and it has a Christian connection, too.

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-Eleri, Josie, lovely to meet you.

-Welcome to Hampton Court.

-Thank you.

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Curator Eleri Lynn is taking me behind the scenes to see

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a church altar cloth found in St Faith's, Bacton, in Herefordshire,

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now kept under cover on the table.

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It's so precious, it can only be exposed for short periods.

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What's incredibly special is that we think it's made from a skirt

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once worn by Queen Elizabeth I herself.

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So we have the real thing in front of us, which I'll show you now.

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And I'm just going to ask my colleague, Libby,

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to come and help me.

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This is the first time cameras have seen the altar cloth

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revealed like this and I, for one, am incredibly excited.

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Oh, the colours!

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What we're looking at here is the back, and conservators

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here at Hampton Court have only recently removed the backing.

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So, if this is a part of something she would have worn originally,

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how rare is that?

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This artefact is a very, very rare survival because it is, in fact,

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the only object of dress that survives from Elizabeth I's wardrobe.

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It's made from cloth of silver.

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That was reserved by sumptuary law in the Tudor period to the very,

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very highest levels of society - generally, only royalty.

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It's as true as the day that it was embroidered.

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For the first time in 400 years, we're seeing these colours,

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and these are the colours that the Queen would probably have

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worn here at Hampton Court.

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Now, we're talking about pioneering women.

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Why, for you, was she a pioneering monarch?

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She established order and prosperity on the country, really,

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for decades, and the fact that, by the end of her life,

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she was seen as Gloriana

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and her reign is still referred to as a golden age I think is

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testament to the power and control that she wielded.

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And she felt very guided by God throughout her reign, didn't she?

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She said, "I will not make windows into men's souls,"

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which means that she wouldn't persecute people

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on the grounds of faith and that, as long as they were

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loyal subjects to her, she was very tolerant of those differences.

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And the imagery has Christian significance?

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In the early Reformation period and throughout the 16th century,

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religious iconography was forbidden,

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and so one way to show devotion to God was to embroider

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motifs of the natural world, which was in reverence to creation.

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Elizabeth was a very devout queen and woman.

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She saw herself as a vessel for God's direction,

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and she particularly wanted to use that in order to protect her country

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and her people. So she did pray every day for God's guidance.

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This is remarkable and stunning and very beautiful.

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-Eleri, thank you for sharing it with us.

-Thank you. Thanks for coming.

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Constance Coltman,

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the first woman to be ordained in a UK denomination,

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studied here at Mansfield College in Oxford over 100 years ago.

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Reverend Jenny Mills is a more recent graduate of the college

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and has been a United Reformed Church minister for nine years.

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As ordained women,

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she and I have both been inspired by the story of Constance.

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She pushed the boundaries a lot.

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She was a suffragist, so she believed in the non-aggressive

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suffragette movement, so it was about peaceful negotiation.

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She was a pacifist, obviously just an incredibly tenacious woman.

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She didn't take no for an answer.

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I don't know about you but, you know, as an ordained woman,

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there is a sense of whose footsteps you're walking in, isn't there,

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and there's a certain weight that we carry that perhaps

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our male colleagues don't in terms of breaking ground?

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Yeah, and I think that was part of my problem,

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when people started saying to me, "I could see you as a minister,"

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because I kind of didn't think I fitted a mould.

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-Does that make sense - a mould?

-Yeah, that really resonates with me!

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And so, I was, like, no, no, no, no, no!

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But every time I ran away from it, which I did for about five or six years,

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something would happen that made me go, OK, OK.

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And, at one point, I remember bargaining with God, which is

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something I've never done since and I would never do again,

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and I went, OK, God, if this is what I should do,

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one person this week - when we were on a residential -

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needs to say to me, "When are you going into ministry?"

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And, 10 people later, I just put my hands up.

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I remember saying, when I thought I was being called to ministry,

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I'll just see how far I can take it.

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And I presumed that, at some point, someone would just go, "No!"

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-And no-one has yet!

-Yeah.

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But there's always that fear, isn't there, that someone,

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at some point, is going to realise?

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I mean, for me, there's a moment in communion

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when I hold up the chalice -

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and I never realised this until I did my first-ever communion -

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and I remember catching sight of my reflection in the cup and going...

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SHE GASPS

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And thinking, any moment now, someone's going to come

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and stop me from doing this. I'm not allowed, surely?

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I'm not grown-up enough to be a vicar!

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Jenny is now minister of a United Reformed Church in Buckinghamshire

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leading all ages in different forms of worship and community projects.

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Every day is a blessing.

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Even on the really rubbish days, I can wake up feeling, oh,

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I just can't do this, I've got nothing to give.

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And an encounter happens or something is said to you or

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somebody asks you for some advice and you just go, oh, my goodness!

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Thank you, God.

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And I don't even have to understand it - I just have to go, wow!

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This is and I am and God is. And that's where the blessing is.

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I like to think that, when we get there,

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Constance will be waiting for us, don't you?

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And there'll be a big get-together of all the women in ministry,

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going, "Ooh! Well, mine was like this, and my ministry was like that!"

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What do you think?

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Yeah, I think my worry might be she'll go, "Oh, no, you got that fact wrong!"

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Cos, you know, we were the witnesses to the Resurrection,

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so we've got good form.

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If we hadn't gossiped after the Resurrection, if women hadn't

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gone out and had a good old gossip, we wouldn't be here, would we?

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-So hurrah for Mary Magdalene and Constance!

-Absolutely!

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-And hurrah for us!

-Yeah!

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That song, What A Beautiful Name,

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was written by a young New Zealand woman called Brooke Fraser

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just two years ago, and it's already become a worldwide favourite.

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Our next hymn combines the new with the old.

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The 19th-century words were written by female hymn writer Charitie Bancroft,

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and the tune was composed in 1997 by musician Vikki Cook.

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Christian women have been pioneers in all sorts of different ways.

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Josie d'Arby's been meeting a 21st-century woman who's managed

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to combine her faith with a passion for fashion.

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I have always loved the idea of being able to express myself

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through what I wore and I really see fashion as a way

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to kind of express your personality.

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Ruth Awogbade loves the world of fashion

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and has worked for big companies, including Burberry and L'Oreal.

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Growing up I would hear that fashion is a very dark industry

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but actually I found it very full of life.

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Because we serve a creative God,

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so being able to be in an industry that is fast-paced, is creating,

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that's innovating, I found a very enriching experience.

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But Ruth wanted to make a difference in her industry through her faith

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and so she left her full-time job and in 2014 launched

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the first print edition of her Christian magazine called Magnify.

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I think, for me growing up, a lot of my friends,

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they either would say that they don't have a faith

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or they are kind of unsure as to what they think about faith.

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And I really wanted to create a platform that they could engage with on their levels.

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Why have you called it Magnify?

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It goes back to Luke 1, verse 46, where Mary cries out,

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"My soul magnifies the Lord and my spirit delights in God my saviour."

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And I think, for me, my vision and prayer and passion

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has always been to see Christ magnified.

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Who is your ideal reader? Who are you aiming this at?

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Women who are driven, who are passionate,

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who are very intelligent, who think deeply about things.

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And so the kind of surface-level answers don't really do it for them.

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I know that you have three Fs that you abide by.

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Can you talk to me about those?

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So Faith, Feminism and Fashion are our three words,

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which often people have to take a step back.

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But for me those were the words that I felt really encapsulated

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the heart of the magazine.

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Ruth's decision to take a step of faith into uncharted territory

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was seen by some as a big risk.

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It was quite a difficult thing when you go to parties or dinners

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and people are like, "Oh, what are you doing?"

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"Oh, you're doing a Christian magazine? OK. All the best with that!"

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So I think for me it was a huge leap of faith to trust that

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what would be next would be better than what I was leaving behind.

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Particularly in today's world we see that women's issues

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are at the forefront of a lot of media, a lot of media campaigns,

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and it is important that there is a voice of faith

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that is positive and enriching.

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Do you feel like a pioneer within your industry?

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I don't know if I would say that but I know what I am passionate about

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is creating something that doesn't exist.

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And if that is a pioneer, then I am very humbled

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but my personal relationship with God has got to be front and centre.

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That's what spurs me on to give other women the opportunity

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to be inspired and to be empowered.

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My own personal relationship with God teaches me to trust him

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more and more and even sometimes when I felt like my back has

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really been up against the wall, God just kind of, yeah,

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opens doors that we never could have imagined or expected.

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# When I fear my faith will fail

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# Christ will hold me fast

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# When the tempter would prevail

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# He will hold me fast

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# I could never keep my hold

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# Through life's fearful path

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# For my love is often cold

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# He must hold me fast

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# He will hold me fast

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# He will hold me fast

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# For my saviour loves me so

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# He will hold me fast

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# For my life He bled and died

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# Christ will hold me fast

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# Justice has been satisfied

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# He will hold me fast

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# Raised with Him to endless life

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# He will hold me fast

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# Till my faith is turned to sight

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# When He comes at last

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# He will hold me fast

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# He will hold me fast

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# For my saviour loves me so

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# He will hold me fast

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# He will hold me fast

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# He will hold me fast

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# For my saviour loves me so

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# He will hold me fast. #

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That's almost it from Oxford.

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Next week, Claire McCollum visits Lincolnshire to discover the link

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between woodlands and Christianity.

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And joins Bishop James Jones planting brand-new oak trees.

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Our final hymn was inspired by probably the most famous woman

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in the Bible - Jesus's mother, Mary -

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whose words of thanksgiving and praise

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resonate with Christians everywhere.

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