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This week, I'm in the UK's smallest city, St Davids | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
in Pembrokeshire, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
to explore this beautiful part of South Wales | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
and to find out more about its saintly connections. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
Welcome to Songs of Praise. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
In today's programme, I meet the new Bishop of St Davids, | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
the first female bishop in Wales, | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
to find out all about her city's famous saint | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
and the special well that sprang up the night he was born. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
It was a healing well throughout the early centuries and the Middle Ages, | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
and I think people still come to it on pilgrimage and for prayer. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
Claire McCollum meets a group of city-based children | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
making a pilgrimage to the cathedral. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
St David was a man who was spreading the word of Jesus around in Wales. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:11 | |
And to celebrate this glorious coastline, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
we've a special performance of one of the UK's favourite hymns | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
from our very own Katherine Jenkins. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
With a population of just over 1,000, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
St Davids is surrounded by the stunning Pembrokeshire coastline, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
and right at its heart is its majestic cathedral. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
Our first hymn pays tribute to not just St David | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
but to all this nation's saints. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
Last year, the 129th Bishop of St Davids was installed, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:18 | |
and Joanna Penberthy made history by becoming the first female bishop in Wales. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
With St David's Day earlier this week, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
I met Bishop Joanna on the coastal path just outside the city. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
Bishop Joanna, the place where we're stood now, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
what's the significance of this site? | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
Well, this is really special because this chapel, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
ruined now, but was built on the site that's reputed to be | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
the birthplace of St David, where St Non gave birth to St David. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
Non, like her son David, also became a saint, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
and a legend from her time involves this nearby well. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
St Non was giving birth, she needed water and the Lord opened the ground | 0:05:53 | 0:05:59 | |
and the spring sprung. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
It was a healing well throughout the early centuries and the Middle Ages, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
and I think people still come to it on pilgrimage and for prayer. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
Our St David's Day celebrations begin at the well, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
where I bless people with the water from the well. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
Why do we celebrate St David's Day, what were his achievements? | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
He was an amazing man. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
He lived a religious life but he wasn't just stuck in his community, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
he took the Gospel out across Britain. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
And there are many, many places | 0:06:31 | 0:06:32 | |
where churches are still dedicated to him. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
As a Welsh Christian, is St David's story something that inspires you? | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
Yes, very much, and not because he was a holy person a long time ago, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
but because especially in the festival at St David's Day | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
when his bones in their casket are there in the cathedral | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
for people to pray in front of, it reminds me he was a human being. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
He's not just this plaster saint from a long time ago, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
he was a real human being that made a difference in other people's lives in his day, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
and that makes me think that we too, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
although perhaps we won't be St David, but nevertheless we too | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
open ourselves to the love of God, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
can be transforming in our own communities. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
Is that something you hope to do, in terms of changing people's | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
life for the better, in your role as the first female bishop in Wales? | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
Yes, yes. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:17 | |
I would hope that part of my episcopacy would be encouraging | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
every person to know their own uniqueness and to know that | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
they themselves have something that can be offered to their communities, their families, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
and be channels for the transforming love of God, yes. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
So, on a day like today, what for you would be the perfect hymn to sing next? | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
Well, when I first started taking my faith seriously, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
I came across Psalm 139, and where that amazing thing - | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
God knows us intimately. "God, you have searched me, and you know me." | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
I think that just sums up what it is to be a Christian. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
You don't have to impress God, God knows you from the top to the bottom | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
in your innermost hearts and loves you for who you are. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
Bordered on three sides by the sea, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
Pembrokeshire benefits from the Gulf Stream which creates a milder | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
climate for farming and a longer growing season. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
Claire McCollum's been to a farm near St Davids | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
that's cultivating faith as much as food. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
There are many farms around St Davids, including this one, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
Treginnis Farm. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
But the workers here are a little bit younger than usual. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
It's a residential centre run by Farms For City Children - | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
schoolchildren from across the UK visit, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
and those staying this week are from London. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
The charity was started in the 1970s by children's author | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
Michael Morpurgo and his wife Clare. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
They were primary school teachers at the time and discovered a real | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
sense of need for children to connect with the countryside | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
and find out where their food really came from, and they were desperate | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
to see those children come out of the city and experience all the countryside had to offer. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:28 | |
In the seven days that they're here, | 0:11:28 | 0:11:29 | |
they are immersed in all the muck and the magic of farming life. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:35 | |
And then enjoying the fruits of their labour, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
so very often what they will eat in the evening is what they've | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
been planting or growing or looking after during the week. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
One day of the children's stay on the farm is taken up | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
by a special pilgrimage to St Davids Cathedral. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
For some of them, it's their first introduction to Christianity. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
Personally for me, that visit is really important | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
because it's a wonderful opportunity for the children | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
to go on a journey of discovery, to explore, to question, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
and to discover that perhaps there is more to life. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
Well, when I first saw the cathedral, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
it was actually really big and when you go inside, it's actually bigger. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:19 | |
It seems bigger than the outside. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
Cathedrals particularly have this wonderful, grand story to tell | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
and when you look around a building full of those stories, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
you can't help but be inspired. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
I wonder if you can work out which one is St David. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:36 | |
There are some clues. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
St David was a man who was spreading the word of Jesus around in Wales. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:44 | |
And he was also friends with St Patrick who travelled to Ireland | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
to tell people about Jesus, too. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
So this is where the priests tell the story | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
and say the words of Jesus. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
So, I wonder if one of you might dress up as the priest. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:02 | |
For some children, that moment, that experience, | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
or those collection of experiences over the seven days | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
really has changed the course of their life for the better. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
We did the carol singing, with the guys, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
and they did really good, I liked when they sang it, the song. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
# Thou little tiny child | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
# By, by, lully, lullay. # | 0:13:23 | 0:13:31 | |
I really like being here, because we get to explore | 0:13:31 | 0:13:36 | |
and see how different it looks like to London. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
The cloth onto the table... | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
How valuable would you say this whole experience is for a child | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
going forward in life? | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
For these children, they discover that what they do actually matters in life. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:52 | |
The responsibility that they have, maybe for the first time ever, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
is something that's really special, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
and goes with them when they go home - | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
that the decisions they make, the actions they take really matter. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
St Davids not only has the title, "smallest city in the UK", | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
it is also hoping to become a dementia-friendly city. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
Gill and Andrew Lease are two local residents working towards | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
this goal, and have very personal reasons for getting involved. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
A few years ago, Andrew was a very healthy 57-year-old | 0:17:18 | 0:17:24 | |
playing cricket every weekend, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
working probably an 80-hour week, which was too much really. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
But coping with it and loving it. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
And then we started to notice that things were going wrong, | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
things were going missing. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:37 | |
You started to get dip in mood, didn't you, and things like that? | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
We went through all the testing then | 0:17:42 | 0:17:43 | |
and it turned out to be Alzheimer's then, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
what they call young-onset dementia. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
Did you know much about Alzheimer's up until that point? | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
No... | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
Well, a little, yes. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
A little bit more, and... | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
But not a lot. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
And, Andrew, how do you feel? | 0:18:02 | 0:18:03 | |
I'm OK! | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
He's OK. He's got a very good sense of humour. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
I can see that. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
He's been dancing around before we started filming. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
And that has been a big bonus, so... | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
And different things - you still like your sport on television, don't you? | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
Yeah. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
As his condition develops, Andrew finds it harder | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
to communicate, which has had a profound impact on the family. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
I went through a period of sadness. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
I have known Andrew since I was 16, so we have been married now | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
for 38 years, and you see somebody that you have | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
known for all that time start to change | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
and to struggle with things that were very easy. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
I am not saying that I am always praying for a cure because | 0:18:49 | 0:18:54 | |
I know that for Andrew that probably isn't going to happen. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
But I do pray for myself for patience, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
because you do need a lot of patience. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
And that he stays well, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:04 | |
because if he stays well and happy, then that is good. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
Rather than be defeated by the diagnosis, it has inspired Gill | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
and Andrew to start a dementia-friendly social group | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
in their church hall just outside St Davids. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
We actually saw an article on how table tennis could help | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
people with dementia and different memory problems. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
And we actually had got at the time | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
table tennis down in the church hall. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
So we started asking around and it turned out that the people | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
that really wanted the help were the people with long-term conditions - | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
so perhaps couldn't go and do a whole hour's keep-fit | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
but would be quite happy to come down and do perhaps | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
ten minutes of something, have a rest and then go and do something else. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
And I suppose we identified about ten people, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
so we became a dementia-friendly group. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
It is open to anybody in the community | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
and it is there for anybody to use that wants to. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
How has your faith helped you through what you have been through? | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
I don't think I would have managed without one. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
I don't know how people do. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
-I mean, we've used it a lot, haven't we? -Yeah. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
What surprised you the most about being in this position? | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
I think the different path it has made us take. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
I think we have really both of us taken a positive thing for it, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
-haven't we? -Yeah, I have. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
And we have become dementia friends and we have encouraged that with | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
the Alzheimer's Society and things like that. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
-We have met a lot of nice people, haven't we? -Yeah. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
You know, so I suppose it has expanded our horizons really. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
Our next piece of music is an inspirational hymn | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
sung by stirring Welsh male voice choirs. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
St David isn't the only saint associated with these parts. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
Claire McCollum is meeting Canon Jeffrey Gainer at the cathedral to | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
discover Pembrokeshire's links with another of the UK's patron saints. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
St Davids is obviously hugely connected to St David himself, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
but also connected to Saint Patrick? | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
Well, Rhygyvarch, who wrote a Life Of St David | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
at the end of the 11th century, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
tells us that St Patrick was here some 30 years before David was born. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
Certainly St Patrick, according to Rhygyvarch's account, had a vision | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
of Ireland, near the coast somewhere in west Britain - | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
it could be here. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
And he was told that he had to go and convert the Irish, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
so that is the link and of course he is shown in one of the icons | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
in the restored shrine in the cathedral itself. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
It's a very saintly place, isn't it? | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
I think saints are very important in Christianity. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
And we keep St David's Day here, of course, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
quite rightly, as the Irish do St Patrick. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
The important thing is that for generations people have been | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
coming here and taking an interest in this place, as they still do. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
And so we are very proud of the connection with St Patrick. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
And the connections with Ireland's patron saint | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
don't end at the cathedral. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:23 | |
In the 17th century, there was an historical reference to | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
a medieval chapel on the coast near St Davids | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
which was dedicated to him. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
Little was known about the chapel | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
until its remains were exposed during winter storms in 2013. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:39 | |
The following summer, an archaeological dig took place | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
on the site to unearth the chapel's hidden secrets. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
Roger Smith was part of the dig team. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
Roger, hard to believe we are standing on the actual site where the chapel is buried. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
Yes, it's underneath us, and in fact there are probably about | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
1,000 interments still underneath us as we speak. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
The remains of the chapel are protected from the harsh | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
coastal elements and only uncovered during digs. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
Why was a chapel built on this particular site? | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
Whitesands Bay, where we are now, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
is actually the end of what is called the Golden Road, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
which is a trackway which has been in existence since the Bronze Age. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
This is where people would have sailed to Ireland | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
and indeed further afield. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
Porth Mawr is the name for Whitesands Bay in Welsh, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
that means "big harbour". | 0:25:25 | 0:25:26 | |
And at that point in history people often used beaches as opposed | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
to what we would call harbours now for travelling. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
This is why it is such an important site because this is a place | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
of worship next to a major transportation hub, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
just like you have maybe a chapel or place of worship | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
at an airport these days. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
People may well have made offerings here before they set sail. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
What is interesting though, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:49 | |
when we excavated, we found a much earlier site | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
where we have burials which go back to 500, 600, 700AD or thereabouts, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:57 | |
what Christians might call the Age of the Saints which is | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
just the time St Patrick and St David and all the other | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
saints were worshipping here. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
And now to celebrate this spectacular and saintly coastline, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
here is Katherine Jenkins with one of the nation's favourite hymns. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
# Oh Lord, my God, when I in awesome wonder | 0:26:19 | 0:26:29 | |
# Consider all the works Thy hands have made | 0:26:29 | 0:26:39 | |
# I see the stars, I hear the mighty thunder | 0:26:39 | 0:26:50 | |
# Thy power throughout the universe displayed | 0:26:50 | 0:26:59 | |
# Then sings my soul, my Saviour God to Thee | 0:27:01 | 0:27:11 | |
# How great Thou art, how great Thou art | 0:27:11 | 0:27:21 | |
# Then sings my soul, my Saviour God to Thee | 0:27:21 | 0:27:31 | |
# How great Thou art, how great Thou art | 0:27:31 | 0:27:42 | |
# And when I think of God, His son not sparing | 0:27:42 | 0:27:53 | |
# Sent Him to die, I scarce can take it in | 0:27:53 | 0:28:02 | |
# That on the cross, my burden gladly bearing | 0:28:02 | 0:28:13 | |
# He bled and died to take away my sin | 0:28:13 | 0:28:23 | |
# Then sings my soul, my Saviour God to Thee | 0:28:23 | 0:28:33 | |
# How great Thou art, how great Thou art | 0:28:33 | 0:28:43 | |
# Then sings my soul, my Saviour God to Thee | 0:28:43 | 0:28:53 | |
# How great Thou art, how great Thou art | 0:28:53 | 0:29:03 | |
# When Christ shall come with shout of acclamation | 0:29:03 | 0:29:13 | |
# And take me home, what joy shall fill my heart | 0:29:13 | 0:29:23 | |
# Then I shall bow with humble adoration | 0:29:23 | 0:29:33 | |
# And then proclaim, "My God, how great Thou art" | 0:29:33 | 0:29:42 | |
# Then sings my soul, my Saviour God to Thee | 0:29:42 | 0:29:52 | |
# How great Thou art, how great Thou art | 0:29:52 | 0:30:02 | |
# Then sings my soul, my Saviour God to Thee | 0:30:02 | 0:30:12 | |
# How great Thou art, how great Thou art | 0:30:12 | 0:30:22 | |
# How great Thou art, how great Thou art | 0:30:22 | 0:30:37 | |
# Thou art. # | 0:30:37 | 0:30:47 | |
Next week, Katherine will be visiting some brand-new mums | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
to celebrate Mothering Sunday. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
And Pam Rhodes talks to the Christian woman helping those | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
for whom Mothering Sunday can be a difficult time. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:04 | |
We return to the city's stunning cathedral for our final hymn. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
So in the words of St David, be joyful and keep the faith. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:13 |