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-Please welcome

-the amazing Dan Thomas.

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-It's lovely to be here.

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-I've been on tour around Wales

-for what feels like six months.

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-I've done the show in Swansea,

-where I'm from originally.

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-I live here now.

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-Are you familiar with Swansea?

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-Where else have I been?

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-Is there anyone here

-from West Wales?

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-Good, because...

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-..the people are so nice...

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-..but sometimes,

-they're just a bit...

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-I was in a cafe there,

-looking at the menu.

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-I asked the woman,

-"What's the soup?"

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-She said,

-"It's sort of like liquid food."

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-Like many small towns...

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-..there was a war memorial

-in the town centre.

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-On one side was a list of locals

-who died in the First World War.

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-It was a long list

-of those who had died...

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-..along with their ranks.

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-Jones, Private, Watkins, Sergeant.

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-Halfway down,

-I saw something a bit weird.

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-Smith, civilian.

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-What on earth was a civilian doing

-in the middle of World War One?

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-Did he think

-it was a cheap holiday to France?

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-Running across no man's land...

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-..thinking,

-"This wasn't in the brochure."

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-An Englishman shouting in

-the trenches, "You there, get down!"

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-"I don't work for you, piss off!"

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-As I said,

-I was in West Wales on tour.

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-A couple of months ago,

-I was in Cross Hands.

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-Genuinely,

-I heard someone say this.

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-Something bad had been on the news.

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-Another terror attack.

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-This old lady in Cross Hands went,

-"It's not safe to leave the house."

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-In Cross Hands?

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-You're still OK, love.

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-I'm fairly sure there's no terrorist

-in a cave somewhere going...

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-.."OK, your list of targets -

-New York, Chicago, Paris...

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-"Yeah,

-you're not going to like this.

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-"Cross Hands."

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-That's a pretty good place

-for a terror bombing.

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-Have you been to Cross Hands?

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-If you were a suicide bomber,

-it wouldn't feel like work.

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-After ten minutes, you'd be...

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-.."I don't care about the virgins,

-I just want to get out of here."

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-I've been driving around

-the country in the countryside.

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-I've only been driving

-for a year or two.

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-I'm still a novice, really,

-and parking can be hard.

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-I had a gig in a pub last weekend.

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-There was no car park, but there

-was one at the nearby prison.

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-I thought, "I'll just park there."

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-I saw a bizarre sign

-at the prison car park.

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-"Warning. Parking is for staff

-and visitors only."

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-So I thought, "Obviously."

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-Only three groups use a prison.

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-Staff, visitors and prisoners.

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-What would it be like

-if they had a parking space?

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-Looking out of the cell window.

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-"Oh, mate, you've blocked me in!

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-"You'd better have left

-in 20 years."

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-My wife's a vegan.

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-That's hard, because we often

-holiday in Portugal.

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-In Europe, especially the south,

-they haven't sussed veganism yet.

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-They're not au fait with it yet.

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-On holiday, we drive around,

-stopping everywhere for a look.

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-"Let's have a look.

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-"There's a lot of steak."

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-"It's a steak house, it would have."

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-Late one night,

-about ten o'clock...

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-..we drove up to this place.

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-"Love, we are going there.

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-"I don't care if it's a restaurant

-that specializes in live kittens...

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-"..that have been bred to weep..."

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-Coincidentally, that's what it was.

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-A Portuguese

-weeping kitten restaurant.

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-"So, this is

-a weeping kitten restaurant, is it?"

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-The man said, "Yes."

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-My wife started to cry.

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-"Don't cry, you'll confuse the cats,

-they'll think they're one of you.

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-"Don't be sad. When we go abroad,

-you like to eat authentically.

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-"Is weeping kittens

-authentic Algarvean cuisine?

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-He went,

-"No, it's only me doing this."

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-"Screw it, table for two. It's late.

-What's the wine? Tears? Two."

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-There are some things

-I really want to talk about tonight.

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-Does everyone

-have one of those dodgy friends?

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-I think everyone

-has one dodgy friend.

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-The kind of person...

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-Someone broke into our house

-about a year ago.

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-One of my friends said,

-"Someone broke into your house?"

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-"Don't worry, don't worry.

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-"I know someone

-who can find out who did it."

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-I was like,

-"OK, I know someone too.

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-"They're called the police.

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-"You don't mean them, do you?"

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-"No."

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-They stole our television.

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-I told him, "They took our TV."

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-My friend said,

-"How much was it? 700?

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-"I can get you the same TV

-for 50 off my mate Jimmy Onions.

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-"Jimmy Onions, yeah."

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-Forgive me, but he doesn't sound

-like a licensed Sony dealer.

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-The point is,

-everyone has a dodgy friend.

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-Mine is my mother.

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-It'll make sense

-when I tell you this.

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-I realized something

-when I was in my twenties.

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-My childhood was stranger...

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-..than the childhood

-of literally everyone in this room.

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-Definitely.

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-I don't even have to ask.

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-You know when you meet new people

-at university or work...

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-..and you discuss your childhood?

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-"I had such a weird childhood.

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-"My mother considered

-having dreadlocks at one point."

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-Yes, mental.

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-Then I tell stories

-about my childhood.

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-They all stop and say,

-"Mate, that's fucked."

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-And they're right.

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-My childhood was nuts.

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-I'll prove it to you tonight.

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-There were clues that something

-funny was going on when I was small.

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-I grew up in Marloes,

-near Haverfordwest.

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-I didn't think about this

-until I was a bit older.

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-There was always a van

-parked outside our house in Marloes.

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-Always, all day, every day.

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-I eventually found out that

-our house was being bugged by MI5.

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-This is all true.

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-Our house was bugged by MI5.

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-Memories come back.

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-I liked jokes when I was young.

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-I heard new jokes at school...

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-..and phoned my grandmother

-in Swansea to tell them to her.

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-I phoned her one day.

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-"I've heard a new joke.

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-"What do witches learn in school?

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-"Spelling!"

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-Then I'd hear a voice,

-and it wasn't my grandmother's.

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-"That was crud."

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-That was my first review, from

-a constipated MI5 bloke in a van.

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-Our phone was bugged,

-our house was bugged.

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-Obviously,

-there was a reason for that.

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-More stories. I'll build up to it.

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-You've all gone through

-your parents' cupboard as a child...

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-..just to see what's there,

-and that's fine.

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-Usually, you find

-something relatively innocent...

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-..like porn.

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-That's what all my mates found

-in their parents' cupboards.

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-One of my mates

-found a bin bag full of porn.

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-That's fantastic when you're ten.

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-Why was there

-a bin bag full of porn?

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-My mate Paul's father

-was a teacher.

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-"Why does your father

-have a bin bag full of porn?"

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-Paul just said, "He confiscates it

-from the naughty boys."

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-I believed him at the time.

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-I thought about this recently.

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-That doesn't scan, that's bullshit.

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-A teacher who confiscates porn

-would just throw it away.

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-He took it home, and God knows

-what excuse he'd tell his wife.

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-"No, I have to keep this.

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-"That's Razzle, a first edition.

-It'll be worth something one day."

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-The same bloke, what a player...

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-..his wife found a G-string

-in the car's glove compartment.

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-He managed to convince her

-that it was a shammy.

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-How thick was she?

-"It's the best thing for the job."

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-This was about 20 years ago.

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-He's still out there every Sunday.

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-"Only thing for the job,

-really gets in the cracks."

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-But I didn't find porn

-in my parents' cupboard.

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-I found a gun...

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-..a landmine...

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-..and my parents' divorce papers,

-and I didn't know they had split up.

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-I should also say,

-this was on my ninth birthday.

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-Happy birthday, me.

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-Obviously, something was up,

-landmines and guns.

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-Fortunately, around that time,

-my grandmother had Alzheimer's.

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-That was poorly phrased.

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-She said things that she shouldn't.

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-One day, she just said...

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-.."Do you know your parents were

-in the Free Wales Army in the '70s?"

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-I was like, "OK."

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-Then she said,

-"And Santa Claus doesn't exist."

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-"You're on a roll,

-aren't you, Gran?"

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-Why tell me this? I'm nine.

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-"I thought you were 20

-with a growth hormone problem."

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-So, that's what I found out.

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-My parents were members

-of the Free Wales Army.

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-How many of you are familiar

-with the Free Wales Army?

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-That's quite good.

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-I've asked that question

-on my tour of Wales.

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-Usually, if people don't know,

-they'll say so.

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-But if they do, people just go,

-"I'm not saying shit."

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-You were very brave there.

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-A lot of places, people think

-it might be a sting operation...

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-..and don't say anything.

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-The best I've had

-is someone doing this.

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-So, well done.

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-Is anyone unfamiliar

-with the Free Wales Army?

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-Wales, eh?

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-If you don't know,

-are you familiar with the IRA?

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-And the Chuckle Brothers?

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-It's basically...

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-I don't want to take the piss...

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-..but it was a small army

-of which my parents were members...

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-..that wanted freedom for Wales,

-which was fantastic.

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-But it was weird.

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-When I found out,

-after my grandmother told me...

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-..my mother was willing

-to talk about it.

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-Too willing to talk about it.

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-All of you probably had lullabies

-and fairy tales at bedtime.

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-My mother would go...

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-.."Do you want a story?"

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-I'd be, "Oh, God!"

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-"Free Wales Army?"

-"Yes."

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-Every night.

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-I'll give you an example.

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-One story started off like this.

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-"So, we had a load

-of unstable dynamite..."

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-Apparently, dynamite goes off.

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-Not as in kaboom,

-but as in sour milk.

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-"That dynamite's like ripe cheese!"

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-This bloke had a bag

-of unstable dynamite.

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-I've seen photos, red sticks...

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-..like the ones in cartoons,

-with TNT down the side.

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-Free Wales Army or Wile E Coyote?

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-He had to get rid

-of this unstable dynamite.

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-"I know, I'll go for a walk...

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-"..and throw it into

-that dry river bed by the field.

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-"And I'll take the dog with me.

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-He goes for a walk, the bag splits,

-the sticks fall out...

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-..and the dog thinks

-the bloke wants to play catch.

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-He picks up one dynamite stick...

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-..and chases the bloke around

-the field for about an hour...

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-..before eventually biting

-into the stick and exploding.

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-Just woof.

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-Just a reminder.

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-This was the story my mother told me

-to help me get to sleep.

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-"Yes, the dog died. OK, goodnight."

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-If it wasn't stories like that,

-it'd be political polemics.

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-"Just so you know,

-before you go to bed...

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-"..assassination for political ends

-is always morally justifiable.

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-"Mwah, love you."

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-.

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-Subtitles

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-Subtitles

-

-Subtitles

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-It was a small army,

-only 20 members at any one time.

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-All the time, just 20, in an army.

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-To put that in context, there have

-been 20 members of Guns N' Roses.

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-I talk about it with people

-who aren't familiar with the FWA.

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-Some people,

-especially English people, go...

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-.."That sounds amazing,

-they were a crack team!

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-"Like a Welsh Expendables."

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-No, there were very few of them,

-not one was expendable.

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-They were never in a gunfight...

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-..but it would have been terrifying

-for them if they had been.

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-Down!

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-Bang!

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-Oh, crap!

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-"You've shot Llinos.

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-"She was our lift, so, really..."

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-I'd hear more and more stories.

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-The Free Wales Army

-only had one casualty.

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-That was my dad.

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-He'd been shot...

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-Thanks for that, fuck you!

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-He was shot...

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-..when they were on manoeuvres

-on a mountain...

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-..with bayonets and so on.

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-They had to run down a field

-and stab hay bales and stuff.

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-Dad's job was to hold up a gun,

-count to three then shoot.

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-But the Thomases

-lack upper body strength...

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-..and he got tired very quickly.

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-So, he went, "Three, two, one"

-and shot himself in the foot.

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-In a proper army,

-if you shoot yourself in the foot...

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-..you get an honourable discharge.

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-In the Free Wales Army,

-if you shoot yourself in the foot...

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-..all you get is a shit nickname.

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-My dad's nickname was Foot.

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-Dad was Foot.

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-There was a bloke called Hotlips

-because he tried a curry once.

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-Only one of them had a cool nickname

-and that was the Butcher of Blaenau.

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-He was a butcher in Blaenau.

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-That's the Butcher of Blaenau,

-the Milkman of Blaenau...

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-There was a lot of stuff,

-a lot of stuff...

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-They did things like...

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-..exchange schemes with

-other terrorist organizations.

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-We had to go to France

-when we were at school.

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-They went to Palestine.

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-They arranged an exchange scheme

-with the PLO.

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-It's important you know this.

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-The PLO, the Palestinian

-Liberation Organization.

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-Not P&O.

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-That would be a weird exchange.

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-Two FWA blokes just loading...

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-"Screw it, we're the cabaret."

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-A bloke from the PLO

-had come over...

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-..and two blokes from Neath

-went out there.

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-Now, the PLO chap

-had a lot more fun...

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-..than the Neath blokes did

-out in Palestine...

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-..running around for two weeks and

-looking in the Arabic phrasebook.

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-"I can't find

-'Where can I get a pint?'"

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-That happened, the exchange schemes.

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-They were armed to the teeth,

-technically.

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-We had this gun,

-and we had this helmet.

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-I got this when I was small.

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-It was a gift from my parents

-when I was six.

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-Look at it!

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-I wore it today for the first time

-since I was small.

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-Look at this.

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-Hang on.

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-This is really painful.

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-I only realized today

-that this is a child-sized helmet.

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-What the hell

-did they have planned?!

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-They were trying to turn me

-into a child soldier.

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-So, we had those.

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-But we had more than that.

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-As I said, we had one landmine

-and we had that gun.

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-But there was another landmine.

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-We had two landmines in the house.

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-One in the cupboard...

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-..and my grandmother

-had one under the bed.

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-In her words, for home protection.

0:19:340:19:37

-"I can't get rid of it

-in case someone breaks in."

0:19:370:19:42

-What would she do

-if someone broke in?

0:19:420:19:45

-"I'll take us both out, prick."

0:19:450:19:47

-The thing is,

-she used to keep it under her bed...

0:19:480:19:51

-..metal, circular,

-under the bed, next to a bedpan.

0:19:520:19:56

-Now, that's something...

0:19:560:19:58

-..that you don't want to mix up

-at two in the morning.

0:19:590:20:03

-I think she might have, because

-that landmine was quite rusty.

0:20:030:20:07

-She had actually

-got rid of that landmine...

0:20:090:20:12

-..because in 1988, they'd had...

0:20:120:20:17

-..this was in Swansea...

0:20:170:20:19

-..they'd had an arms amnesty

-in Swansea.

0:20:190:20:23

-You could hand in weapons,

-and many people did.

0:20:230:20:27

-Grandad's World War Two revolver,

-that sort of thing.

0:20:270:20:32

-Then my grandmother

-turns up with a landmine.

0:20:330:20:36

-She'd walked from Brynmill

-to Cockett police station...

0:20:360:20:40

-..ideally situated

-for an arms amnesty.

0:20:400:20:44

-She walked, even though

-she could have taken the bus.

0:20:440:20:48

-But she thought,

-"I don't want to kill everyone."

0:20:480:20:52

-She said that to the duty sergeant

-when she handed it in...

0:20:520:20:56

-..ironically in a Spar bag for life.

0:20:560:20:59

-She just went, boom.

0:20:590:21:01

-"I've walked here with this.

0:21:020:21:04

-"I didn't want to kill

-everyone on the bus."

0:21:040:21:07

-He said, "You're a saint.

0:21:070:21:09

-That's a fairly low level

-for sainthood.

0:21:090:21:12

-She could have killed

-a busload of people, but she didn't.

0:21:120:21:16

-People still talked about that

-at her funeral.

0:21:180:21:21

-We'd written stuff down

-for the poor priest...

0:21:210:21:24

-..but he hadn't read through it

-before starting the eulogy.

0:21:240:21:28

-"Gladys was a good woman

-beloved by all..."

0:21:290:21:31

-Fairly standard stuff.

0:21:310:21:33

-"She was very involved

-in Labour politics.

0:21:340:21:37

-"I'm sorry, I can't read that.

0:21:380:21:40

-"It looks like nearly killed

-a busload of people but didn't."

0:21:410:21:44

-Late arrivals were asking,

-"Is this Gladys?"

0:21:450:21:47

-That was the first time

-I went to a funeral.

0:21:480:21:51

-But it wasn't the first time

-I had to deal with death.

0:21:510:21:55

-Most people learn about death

-with the loss of a pet or something.

0:21:560:22:01

-I found out aged nine,

-when my mother came up and said...

0:22:010:22:05

-.."Do you know when I die?

0:22:050:22:06

-"I want to show you the package

-I want from the undertaker's."

0:22:070:22:12

-Genuinely, she had a brochure!

0:22:120:22:14

-I was nine, and she thought,

-"Now's the time, he needs to know."

0:22:140:22:18

-"I want to be cremated and scattered

-in the field by Aberglasney.

0:22:190:22:23

-"Just remember, OK?"

0:22:230:22:25

-"OK."

0:22:250:22:26

-"Goodnight!" again.

0:22:270:22:28

-About a year ago, she asked...

0:22:310:22:33

-.."Do you remember where I want

-my ashes spread? Aberglasney?"

0:22:330:22:37

-"Yes, I still think about it.

0:22:370:22:39

-"I've spoken

-to my psychiatrist about it."

0:22:400:22:42

-"I've changed my mind now because

-they've got a new toilet block...

0:22:430:22:47

-"..and it's very vulgar,

-so I don't want to go there now."

0:22:470:22:51

-I thought, "You're not going

-to use it, you mad bat.

0:22:510:22:55

-"Why do you care? You're insane."

0:22:560:22:58

-I told her last weekend...

0:22:580:23:00

-..that I'd be talking about

-her change of heart about her ashes.

0:23:000:23:05

-She said, "Oh, no, don't say that,

-people will think I'm weird."

0:23:050:23:09

-An hour later, she revealed...

0:23:120:23:15

-..that she was considering

-putting AstroTurf in the bath.

0:23:150:23:19

-She's eccentric,

-I think that's the word.

0:23:190:23:22

-If I use the word mental,

-people say it's a bit much.

0:23:220:23:25

-Then I tell the stories,

-and it's, "Fair enough."

0:23:260:23:29

-I prefer the word eccentric.

0:23:300:23:32

-By the mid-1980s...

0:23:320:23:34

-..she was a single parent raising me

-and my sister, and it was hard.

0:23:350:23:39

-I've got much more sympathy now

-for her eccentricities.

0:23:390:23:43

-I'm a parent myself now,

-we have two young daughters.

0:23:430:23:47

-Cheers.

0:23:470:23:48

-Who here has children?

0:23:520:23:54

-Yes, full of joy.

0:23:550:23:57

-Who doesn't have children?

0:23:580:24:00

-It's lovely, don't get me wrong.

0:24:020:24:04

-Children are lovely.

0:24:040:24:06

-Children are the best things

-I've ever created with my penis.

0:24:060:24:12

-It's not a long list,

-babies and one IKEA bookshelf.

0:24:150:24:19

-After I finished,

-I found the Allen key.

0:24:220:24:24

-"That would have been handy

-an hour ago. I need Savlon!"

0:24:250:24:29

-Everything changes

-when you have a baby.

0:24:300:24:33

-Your house changes and now we have

-two, there are toys everywhere.

0:24:350:24:40

-Choking hazards everywhere,

-and they don't work.

0:24:400:24:43

-The first thing we bought

-was a baby monitor.

0:24:460:24:50

-When I was young, baby monitors

-were a microphone and a speaker.

0:24:500:24:56

-That's all.

0:24:560:24:57

-These days, they have a camera

-pointing at the baby...

0:24:570:25:00

-..and you have a screen

-in the room where you are.

0:25:010:25:04

-You can look at the baby all day.

0:25:050:25:07

-We had one of those.

0:25:070:25:09

-We watched the baby on the screen

-all day, just looking at her face.

0:25:090:25:14

-Her nose.

0:25:150:25:16

-Her cheeks.

0:25:180:25:19

-Her lips.

0:25:200:25:21

-Her chin.

0:25:210:25:22

-I said to my wife,

-"We made that with our love."

0:25:240:25:28

-We did that all day, every day.

0:25:280:25:31

-But in the dark,

-it goes into night vision...

0:25:330:25:35

-..and the baby looks

-like the fucking exorcist.

0:25:360:25:39

-Everything changes.

0:25:410:25:42

-In the day, she's just cute.

0:25:430:25:45

-Six o'clock, it's dark,

-and it's horrific.

0:25:480:25:52

-I remember the first time

-the baby cried at 3.00am.

0:25:520:25:56

-My wife asked me to go.

0:25:560:25:58

-I looked at the screen and said...

0:25:590:26:01

-.."No, I'm not going in there

-by myself, not without a shotgun...

0:26:010:26:05

-"..and a priest."

0:26:070:26:08

-That's the only time

-when it's OK...

0:26:080:26:10

-..to take a priest

-into your child's room.

0:26:110:26:13

-That joke went down better than it

-did in Dublin, so thanks for that.

0:26:180:26:23

-.

0:26:240:26:25

-Subtitles

0:26:270:26:27

-Subtitles

-

-Subtitles

0:26:270:26:29

-Has anyone seen The Omen?

0:26:310:26:33

-Basically, if you haven't seen it,

-it's about the spawn of Satan...

0:26:350:26:40

-..born of a jackal...

0:26:420:26:43

-..pure evil.

0:26:430:26:45

-The fact is...

0:26:460:26:48

-..in that film,

-the kid doesn't do anything...

0:26:480:26:51

-..I don't have to deal with

-five times every freaking day.

0:26:510:26:55

-It's horseshit.

0:26:550:26:56

-The worst thing he does...

0:26:570:26:58

-..is almost hit his nursery nurse

-down the stairs with a tricycle.

0:26:590:27:03

-Keyword, almost.

0:27:040:27:05

-He doesn't actually do it.

0:27:050:27:07

-My children set up tripwires

-at the top of the stairs.

0:27:070:27:11

-There's one scene in The Omen

-where they take the kid...

0:27:110:27:15

-..to one of those

-drive-through wildlife parks.

0:27:150:27:18

-When they pass the baboons, the

-baboons all sense evil in the car.

0:27:190:27:24

-They start to attack the car.

0:27:240:27:26

-They just go nuts, right.

0:27:260:27:28

-I took my kids to Whipsnade Zoo.

0:27:290:27:31

-In the baboon bit,

-it was exactly the same.

0:27:310:27:34

-The baboons began

-to throw shit at our car.

0:27:340:27:37

-But my kids were in the car

-matching them turd for turd.

0:27:370:27:42

-That was in my car.

0:27:430:27:45

-The head baboon looked right at me.

0:27:450:27:49

-"Leave this guy alone,

-he's having a bad day.

0:27:490:27:52

-"Guys, remember,

-we are above all entertainers.

0:27:520:27:56

-"Move on, mate, go to the gift shop.

0:27:560:27:59

-When I was growing up,

-it was really hard...

0:27:590:28:02

-When I was growing up, it was

-a lot harder to make children cry.

0:28:030:28:08

-You really had to hit them.

0:28:090:28:11

-The father of one of my friends

-broke his rotator cuff...

0:28:120:28:16

-..just by whacking him one evening,

-and he cried a little bit.

0:28:160:28:20

-My kids cried this morning because

-I'd bought them a blind bag...

0:28:210:28:25

-Do you know what a blind bag is?

0:28:260:28:28

-It's a swindle.

0:28:280:28:29

-You'll know it's a con

-if you have kids.

0:28:290:28:32

-It's a toy in a vacuum-packed bag.

0:28:330:28:36

-But you can't see what's in it

-until you've bought it.

0:28:370:28:40

-Then the kids freak out

-if they've already got it.

0:28:400:28:45

-Tough. We've bought it now.

0:28:450:28:47

-She started to cry this morning.

0:28:470:28:50

-My child cried this morning...

0:28:500:28:52

-..essentially because Dadi doesn't

-have X-ray freaking vision.

0:28:520:28:56

-"Dad's not clairvoyant. Boohoo!"

0:28:570:29:00

-As a parent, I used to think

-that 9/11 was something really bad.

0:29:030:29:09

-Then I found out that

-Osama Bin Laden had 24 children...

0:29:130:29:16

-..and I'm much more sympathetic now.

0:29:170:29:19

-I've only got two,

-and I've never blown anything up.

0:29:200:29:24

-The worst I've done is walk

-into a giant Jenga in a pub.

0:29:240:29:29

-"Death to the West!

0:29:290:29:30

-"Sorry, they're teething,

-I'm in a terrible mood."

0:29:310:29:34

-It's like being a hostage.

0:29:350:29:37

-I feel like a hostage, right.

0:29:370:29:39

-I'm giving you mixed messages,

-but I do feel like a hostage.

0:29:390:29:43

-There are two of them, and I look

-after them in the day sometimes.

0:29:440:29:48

-Just me and two little kids,

-and I feel like Terry Waite.

0:29:480:29:52

-Some of you know.

-Who remembers Terry Waite?

0:29:520:29:55

-If you don't,

-he was taken hostage...

0:29:570:29:59

-What an amazing reaction.

0:29:590:30:01

-Someone went, "Hooray!

0:30:010:30:04

-"Finally, someone's doing

-Terry Waite material!"

0:30:040:30:09

-If you don't remember Terry Waite...

0:30:090:30:12

-..in the 1980s, he was an assistant

-to the Archbishop of Canterbury...

0:30:120:30:17

-..who was taken hostage in Beirut.

0:30:170:30:19

-The job title assistant

-to the Archbishop of Canterbury...

0:30:190:30:23

-..doesn't sound as if you'd be

-at risk of kidnap in Beirut.

0:30:240:30:27

-"What's the job? Stuff around the

-office, teas and coffees and so on.

0:30:280:30:32

-"And you might have to broker peace

-in the Middle East."

0:30:320:30:36

-"What was that?"

0:30:360:30:37

-"Don't worry about it."

0:30:380:30:39

-He went to Beirut

-and was held hostage for five years.

0:30:390:30:43

-Five years tied to a radiator,

-and that's how I feel.

0:30:430:30:47

-But at least he was able

-to spend five years thinking...

0:30:490:30:52

-.."If I get out of this alive,

-I'm getting a book deal."

0:30:530:30:56

-At least he had that option,

-but I don't.

0:30:570:30:59

-That actually happened.

0:30:590:31:01

-He was released, wrote a book

-and sold half a million copies.

0:31:020:31:07

-The person I feel sorry for

-is his publisher.

0:31:070:31:11

-He was probably going,

-"Hey, Terry, great book.

0:31:110:31:14

-"Sold half a million copies,

-it's a hit.

0:31:150:31:18

-"What have you got next?"

0:31:180:31:20

-And Terry's just,

-"Um, well, that was the bulk of it.

0:31:220:31:28

-"That was the interesting bit,

-I've told you the rest.

0:31:280:31:31

-"Teas and coffees and bits

-and pieces around the office.

0:31:310:31:35

-"I'm not sure

-there's a book in that."

0:31:350:31:38

-The publisher would go...

0:31:380:31:40

-.."Don't worry, I've got a plan,

-but you're not going to like it.

0:31:400:31:44

-"Basically, I've booked you in for

-a two-week speaking tour of Nigeria.

0:31:450:31:50

-"I've put the word around...

0:31:500:31:52

-"..that you called Boko Haram

-a bunch of knobheads...

0:31:520:31:56

-"..and we'll see what happens."

0:31:560:31:58

-You know, I do...

0:32:000:32:03

-Children.

0:32:030:32:05

-I try to be a good parent.

0:32:060:32:08

-It's hard, but I try.

0:32:080:32:10

-I try to be at least

-as good a parent as mine were.

0:32:100:32:13

-Again, Free Wales Army members.

0:32:140:32:16

-I remember my parents' friends

-coming over.

0:32:160:32:19

-I'd sit on someone's lap,

-not knowing they were in the FWA.

0:32:200:32:26

-They'd say things like...

0:32:260:32:28

-.."Do you know anything

-about the Clywedog bomb in 1966?"

0:32:280:32:32

-And I'd be, "No!"

0:32:320:32:33

-"I'm nine."

0:32:350:32:36

-And he'd go, "No, me neither."

0:32:360:32:39

-It's weird talking about it.

0:32:440:32:46

-I've discussed the FWA in gigs,

-and I remember one in Barry.

0:32:460:32:50

-Someone came up to me,

-and he was only about 20.

0:32:500:32:53

-Very young. He came up to me.

0:32:540:32:56

-"You mentioned the Free Wales Army.

-Can I show you something?"

0:32:560:33:00

-He just unzipped his top and went...

0:33:000:33:03

-He had a tattoo,

-Free Wales Army For Ever.

0:33:050:33:08

-I thought, "Well, OK."

0:33:090:33:13

-But if you're a member

-of a terrorist organization...

0:33:130:33:16

-..it's important to have

-what I'd call plausible deniability.

0:33:180:33:22

-If you get arrested...

0:33:230:33:24

-No-one in the Mafia gets arrested,

-"We think you're a Mafia member."

0:33:240:33:29

-"You can't prove it."

-"OK, unzip."

0:33:300:33:32

-"Goddammit. Knew I shouldn't

-have got the tattoo that says....

0:33:320:33:36

-.."'I love the Mafia,

-of which I am a part.'

0:33:360:33:40

-"Shoulda got the dolphin tattoo,

-that would have been cute."

0:33:400:33:43

-I'll say a couple of other things.

0:33:440:33:47

-I've heard these stories

-since I was small.

0:33:470:33:51

-My favourite story

-concerns my father being arrested.

0:33:510:33:56

-Actually, he hadn't.

-He'd been jailed.

0:33:560:33:59

-Some of his friends

-had been arrested...

0:34:010:34:04

-..for conspiracy

-to commit acts of terror.

0:34:040:34:07

-Dad had decided to go

-to give a speech during the trial...

0:34:070:34:12

-..just to put everyone off.

0:34:120:34:14

-"This'll confuse 'em!"

0:34:170:34:18

-He started to make a speech.

0:34:190:34:21

-You know this was in Swansea

-because the judge said to him...

0:34:210:34:25

-..I swear to God, this is the quote,

-"Oi, dickhead, come over here!"

0:34:260:34:30

-My father said, "What?"

0:34:300:34:33

-"Are you going to shut up?"

-"No."

0:34:330:34:35

-"In that case, I'm putting you

-in jail until the end of the trial.

0:34:350:34:39

-"It should be about a fortnight.

-Take him away."

0:34:400:34:43

-So he had to go to jail.

0:34:430:34:44

-This happened on a Friday.

0:34:450:34:47

-On the Monday,

-he was meant to be in work.

0:34:470:34:50

-In those days,

-the boss came around with a list...

0:34:500:34:53

-..and ticked names off

-to make sure you were there.

0:34:530:34:57

-Off he went.

-"Thomas? Where's Thomas?"

0:34:570:35:00

-His friend just said,

-"Oh, he's in jail!"

0:35:010:35:05

-The boss said, "Jail, is it?

-Right. I don't know what to do.

0:35:060:35:11

-"I can't put him down as sick.

0:35:130:35:15

-"I'll put him down as holiday.

0:35:150:35:17

-"That way,

-he gets paid for the time."

0:35:180:35:20

-That actually happened.

0:35:220:35:24

-I'll tell you something else.

0:35:250:35:27

-My mother's just had

-her first mobile phone.

0:35:270:35:30

-It was six months ago.

0:35:310:35:32

-She let my kids play with it.

0:35:320:35:36

-This irritated me,

-it's just a segue now.

0:35:360:35:39

-My kids broke her phone.

0:35:390:35:41

-Who has an iPhone?

0:35:420:35:43

-Yes, everyone.

0:35:440:35:45

-If you break it,

-you have to take it...

0:35:480:35:50

-..to somewhere called the Genius Bar

-in an Apple store.

0:35:500:35:54

-That's not progress if it takes

-a genius to repair something.

0:35:540:35:58

-When I was growing up,

-if anything electrical broke down...

0:35:580:36:02

-..we'd take it

-to someone called Stupid Clive.

0:36:020:36:06

-We'd wheel the TV over to him.

0:36:060:36:09

-"The telly's broken."

0:36:100:36:11

-"I'll sort it out."

0:36:120:36:13

-He'd wheel it into the back room

-and you'd just hear hammering.

0:36:130:36:18

-"Bastard thing!"

0:36:180:36:19

-He'd wheel it back out

-and it would work fine.

0:36:190:36:22

-So, iPhones aren't progress.

0:36:230:36:25

-Anyway, that's a segue.

0:36:250:36:27

-One more story before I finish.

0:36:270:36:30

-All the FWA stories

-are from the '60s and '70s.

0:36:300:36:35

-But something happened.

0:36:350:36:37

-Actually, I'd asked my mother...

0:36:380:36:40

-..if she had any regrets

-about being a member of the FWA.

0:36:400:36:44

-They were essentially terrorists...

0:36:440:36:47

-..spreading fear, planting bombs,

-causing some damage.

0:36:470:36:50

-Any regrets?

0:36:510:36:52

-This is genuinely what Mam said.

0:36:520:36:54

-"Yes, I never got to kick

-an Englishman in the bollocks."

0:36:540:36:58

-That was my mother's big regret.

0:36:590:37:02

-This was a long time ago,

-but she's still got it.

0:37:040:37:07

-That slight crazy mobster quality.

0:37:070:37:09

-I was going through

-her address book...

0:37:090:37:12

-..about six months ago.

0:37:130:37:14

-I found the number

-for a company called TSU.

0:37:150:37:19

-Then, in brackets...

0:37:200:37:22

-..private South African

-mercenary firm.

0:37:220:37:26

-This woman is 72

-and lives in Brynmill in Swansea.

0:37:270:37:30

-"Why have you got the number

-of a South African mercenary firm?"

0:37:300:37:35

-Genuinely, she said,

-"Because you never know."

0:37:350:37:39

-What the hell could happen?

0:37:390:37:42

-I'm really terrified now because

-she lives next door to students...

0:37:420:37:47

-..and they can be noisy.

0:37:470:37:48

-One night,

-they'll push her over the edge.

0:37:490:37:51

-She'll be straight on the phone.

0:37:520:37:54

-"Hello, is this the private

-South African mercenary firm?

0:37:540:37:58

-"Good, I've got a voucher."

0:37:580:38:01

-Back to bed she goes,

-then 20 minutes later...

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-..black army helicopters

-landing on next door's roof.

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-Then through the wall, you hear,

-"Target down, target down.

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-"Clear, into the second room.

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-"Target down, clear the room.

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-"Upstairs now.

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-"Targets down, clear.

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-"Up to the third level.

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-"Site clear."

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-Silence for a minute,

-then a knock on Mam's door.

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-It's a massive six foot five

-South African in a ski mask...

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-..holding two bags...

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-..full of heads.

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-He hands them over and says,

-"OK, give me the voucher.

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-"The next one is free."

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-I had to ask why they were so angry.

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-Why they were members

-of the Free Wales Army?

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-They were angry with the English

-but angrier with the British Empire.

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-The British were the real enemy.

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-I'd tried to find out

-why they were so angry with them.

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-For the show,

-I thought I'd look up...

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-..some of the bad things

-that the British Empire did...

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-..and make a couple of jokes

-about them.

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-But if you look up the top five

-British imperial war atrocities...

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-..not a lot of jokes.

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-This was my face.

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-"Oh, God, straight away."

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-What's this? Inspired the Nazis?

-This isn't funny.

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-The funniest thing I could find...

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-..or the most light-hearted thing

-that the British Empire did...

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-..were the 19th century

-opium wars...

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-..where they sent people to China

-to get all our heroin back.

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-They sent the army and navy...

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-..working class boys,

-all willing to go out to China.

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-"I'm willing to give up my life...

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-"..to make sure that

-my darling Queen, our dear Queen...

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-"..gets her daily dose of smack.

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-"I want to make sure

-there's enough heroin...

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-"..for every man, woman

-and child in my country."

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-Essentially, that's what they said.

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-I went to Swansea University.

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-My university experience

-was very different to theirs.

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-They'd formed an army.

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-The closest I'd got...

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-..was sitting

-on the committee at university...

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-..that ran the tuck shop.

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-In 2002, Nestle was doing something

-slightly immoral in Africa.

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-Overcharging

-for synthetic baby milk.

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-The lefties said, "That's terrible,

-let's do something," so, we did.

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-Thanks to me, you can't buy Rolos

-at Swansea University now.

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-You're welcome, Africa.

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-This is amazing.

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-I was at university in Swansea

-just after 9/11.

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-It's a good uni, it is.

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-But it's not exactly Oxbridge.

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-I saw something

-that was pure optimism.

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-A pub I used to go to,

-Spoonies, Wetherspoons...

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-A lot of students went there.

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-MI6 had started to put beer mats

-in Wetherspoons in Swansea.

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-"Have you considered

-a career in MI6?"

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-Now, that's optimism.

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-What quality of people

-would they get?

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-The best outcome there

-would be that Osama Bin Laden...

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-What did they imagine would happen?

0:41:440:41:47

-Osama running through some

-Afghan terror network tunnels...

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-..being chased by one bloke.

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-Osama would eventually be trapped

-against the back of the cave.

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-"Where did they ever find

-a man of your calibre?"

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-"Wetherspoons, Swansea.

-Bang. He's down, boys!

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-"We're all going to Spoofers!"

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-Before I go, this is a story

-that happened six months ago.

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-I was at a family friend's wedding

-with my mother.

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-My mother was standing over there,

-just ruining the buffet.

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-Shocking!

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-Ever seen anyone eating

-two Scotch eggs at once? Mental!

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-I was talking to a bloke over here.

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-He was a big boy,

-broad shoulders, fit bloke.

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-"So, what do you do?"

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-"I'm actually a member of Special

-Branch's anti-terror unit."

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-"Oh, that's interesting.

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-"I actually...

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-"This might be

-of some interest to you.

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-"That lady over there who's

-currently ruining the buffet...

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-"..with two Scotch eggs

-in her mouth, that's my mum.

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-"She used to be a member

-of the Free Wales Army.

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-"You probably

-haven't heard of them."

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-And he laughed. He laughed.

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-"Oh, we've heard of the FWA.

-We've actually got a running joke.

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-"Every day

-at the start of the day...

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-..we run through a list of

-current terror threats to Britain.

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-"It starts off ISIS, maximum threat.

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-"Al-Qaeda, maximum threat.

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-"Then, an hour and a half later,

-after all the other threats...

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-"..just as a joke, we get to

-Free Wales Army, minimal threat."

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-And he laughed again.

0:43:440:43:46

-"Oh, well, good speaking to you.

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-"Mam, Mam, put the Scotch egg down,

-for Christ's sake.

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-"That bloke over there

-has a running joke about the FWA."

0:43:590:44:04

-She said, "Oh."

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-She took out her phone.

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-Remember the old days

-when the IRA was active?

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-They'd call ahead

-with coded warnings.

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-Mam just picked up her phone.

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-"Hiya. This is Helen

-from the Free Wales Army.

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-"Yes, we're back.

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-"I'd like to claim responsibility

-for an attack. What attack?

0:44:290:44:33

-"A kick to the bollocks one of

-your pricks is about to take."

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-Do you know what?

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-A lot of people have asked me this.

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-"What effect has being the child

-of Free Wales Army members...

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-"..had on your life, Dan?"

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-And I thought...

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-.."Well, this isn't normal!"

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-You've been fantastic.

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-Thanks for coming, it means a lot.

-I've been Dan Thomas, goodnight.

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