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-Please welcome -the amazing Dan Thomas. | 0:00:00 | 0:00:05 | |
-It's lovely to be here. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
-I've been on tour around Wales -for what feels like six months. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:28 | |
-I've done the show in Swansea, -where I'm from originally. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
-I live here now. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:39 | |
-Are you familiar with Swansea? | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
-Where else have I been? | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
-Is there anyone here -from West Wales? | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
-Good, because... | 0:00:49 | 0:00:50 | |
-..the people are so nice... | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
-..but sometimes, -they're just a bit... | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
-I was in a cafe there, -looking at the menu. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
-I asked the woman, -"What's the soup?" | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
-She said, -"It's sort of like liquid food." | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
-Like many small towns... | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
-..there was a war memorial -in the town centre. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
-On one side was a list of locals -who died in the First World War. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:26 | |
-It was a long list -of those who had died... | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
-..along with their ranks. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:30 | |
-Jones, Private, Watkins, Sergeant. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
-Halfway down, -I saw something a bit weird. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
-Smith, civilian. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
-What on earth was a civilian doing -in the middle of World War One? | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
-Did he think -it was a cheap holiday to France? | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
-Running across no man's land... | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
-..thinking, -"This wasn't in the brochure." | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
-An Englishman shouting in -the trenches, "You there, get down!" | 0:01:55 | 0:02:00 | |
-"I don't work for you, piss off!" | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
-As I said, -I was in West Wales on tour. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
-A couple of months ago, -I was in Cross Hands. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
-Genuinely, -I heard someone say this. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
-Something bad had been on the news. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
-Another terror attack. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
-This old lady in Cross Hands went, -"It's not safe to leave the house." | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
-In Cross Hands? | 0:02:23 | 0:02:24 | |
-You're still OK, love. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
-I'm fairly sure there's no terrorist -in a cave somewhere going... | 0:02:26 | 0:02:31 | |
-.."OK, your list of targets - -New York, Chicago, Paris... | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
-"Yeah, -you're not going to like this. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
-"Cross Hands." | 0:02:43 | 0:02:44 | |
-That's a pretty good place -for a terror bombing. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
-Have you been to Cross Hands? | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
-If you were a suicide bomber, -it wouldn't feel like work. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
-After ten minutes, you'd be... | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
-.."I don't care about the virgins, -I just want to get out of here." | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
-I've been driving around -the country in the countryside. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
-I've only been driving -for a year or two. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
-I'm still a novice, really, -and parking can be hard. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
-I had a gig in a pub last weekend. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
-There was no car park, but there -was one at the nearby prison. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
-I thought, "I'll just park there." | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
-I saw a bizarre sign -at the prison car park. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
-"Warning. Parking is for staff -and visitors only." | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
-So I thought, "Obviously." | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
-Only three groups use a prison. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
-Staff, visitors and prisoners. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
-What would it be like -if they had a parking space? | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
-Looking out of the cell window. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
-"Oh, mate, you've blocked me in! | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
-"You'd better have left -in 20 years." | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
-My wife's a vegan. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
-That's hard, because we often -holiday in Portugal. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
-In Europe, especially the south, -they haven't sussed veganism yet. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
-They're not au fait with it yet. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
-On holiday, we drive around, -stopping everywhere for a look. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
-"Let's have a look. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:23 | |
-"There's a lot of steak." | 0:04:24 | 0:04:25 | |
-"It's a steak house, it would have." | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
-Late one night, -about ten o'clock... | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
-..we drove up to this place. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
-"Love, we are going there. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
-"I don't care if it's a restaurant -that specializes in live kittens... | 0:04:36 | 0:04:41 | |
-"..that have been bred to weep..." | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
-Coincidentally, that's what it was. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
-A Portuguese -weeping kitten restaurant. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
-"So, this is -a weeping kitten restaurant, is it?" | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
-The man said, "Yes." | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
-My wife started to cry. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
-"Don't cry, you'll confuse the cats, -they'll think they're one of you. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
-"Don't be sad. When we go abroad, -you like to eat authentically. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
-"Is weeping kittens -authentic Algarvean cuisine? | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
-He went, -"No, it's only me doing this." | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
-"Screw it, table for two. It's late. -What's the wine? Tears? Two." | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
-There are some things -I really want to talk about tonight. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:30 | |
-Does everyone -have one of those dodgy friends? | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
-I think everyone -has one dodgy friend. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
-The kind of person... | 0:05:37 | 0:05:38 | |
-Someone broke into our house -about a year ago. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
-One of my friends said, -"Someone broke into your house?" | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
-"Don't worry, don't worry. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
-"I know someone -who can find out who did it." | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
-I was like, -"OK, I know someone too. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
-"They're called the police. | 0:05:58 | 0:05:59 | |
-"You don't mean them, do you?" | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
-"No." | 0:06:02 | 0:06:03 | |
-They stole our television. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
-I told him, "They took our TV." | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
-My friend said, -"How much was it? 700? | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
-"I can get you the same TV -for 50 off my mate Jimmy Onions. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
-"Jimmy Onions, yeah." | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
-Forgive me, but he doesn't sound -like a licensed Sony dealer. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
-The point is, -everyone has a dodgy friend. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
-Mine is my mother. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:29 | |
-It'll make sense -when I tell you this. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
-I realized something -when I was in my twenties. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
-My childhood was stranger... | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
-..than the childhood -of literally everyone in this room. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
-Definitely. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:46 | |
-I don't even have to ask. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
-You know when you meet new people -at university or work... | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
-..and you discuss your childhood? | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
-"I had such a weird childhood. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
-"My mother considered -having dreadlocks at one point." | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
-Yes, mental. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:01 | |
-Then I tell stories -about my childhood. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
-They all stop and say, -"Mate, that's fucked." | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
-And they're right. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:09 | |
-My childhood was nuts. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
-I'll prove it to you tonight. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
-There were clues that something -funny was going on when I was small. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:22 | |
-I grew up in Marloes, -near Haverfordwest. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
-I didn't think about this -until I was a bit older. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
-There was always a van -parked outside our house in Marloes. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:35 | |
-Always, all day, every day. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
-I eventually found out that -our house was being bugged by MI5. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:43 | |
-This is all true. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
-Our house was bugged by MI5. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
-Memories come back. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
-I liked jokes when I was young. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
-I heard new jokes at school... | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
-..and phoned my grandmother -in Swansea to tell them to her. | 0:07:55 | 0:08:00 | |
-I phoned her one day. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:01 | |
-"I've heard a new joke. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
-"What do witches learn in school? | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
-"Spelling!" | 0:08:11 | 0:08:12 | |
-Then I'd hear a voice, -and it wasn't my grandmother's. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
-"That was crud." | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
-That was my first review, from -a constipated MI5 bloke in a van. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:27 | |
-Our phone was bugged, -our house was bugged. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
-Obviously, -there was a reason for that. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
-More stories. I'll build up to it. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
-You've all gone through -your parents' cupboard as a child... | 0:08:41 | 0:08:46 | |
-..just to see what's there, -and that's fine. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
-Usually, you find -something relatively innocent... | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
-..like porn. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:55 | |
-That's what all my mates found -in their parents' cupboards. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
-One of my mates -found a bin bag full of porn. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
-That's fantastic when you're ten. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
-Why was there -a bin bag full of porn? | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
-My mate Paul's father -was a teacher. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
-"Why does your father -have a bin bag full of porn?" | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
-Paul just said, "He confiscates it -from the naughty boys." | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
-I believed him at the time. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
-I thought about this recently. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
-That doesn't scan, that's bullshit. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
-A teacher who confiscates porn -would just throw it away. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
-He took it home, and God knows -what excuse he'd tell his wife. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:38 | |
-"No, I have to keep this. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
-"That's Razzle, a first edition. -It'll be worth something one day." | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
-The same bloke, what a player... | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
-..his wife found a G-string -in the car's glove compartment. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:52 | |
-He managed to convince her -that it was a shammy. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
-How thick was she? -"It's the best thing for the job." | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
-This was about 20 years ago. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
-He's still out there every Sunday. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
-"Only thing for the job, -really gets in the cracks." | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
-But I didn't find porn -in my parents' cupboard. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:16 | |
-I found a gun... | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
-..a landmine... | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
-..and my parents' divorce papers, -and I didn't know they had split up. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
-I should also say, -this was on my ninth birthday. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
-Happy birthday, me. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
-Obviously, something was up, -landmines and guns. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
-Fortunately, around that time, -my grandmother had Alzheimer's. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
-That was poorly phrased. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
-She said things that she shouldn't. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
-One day, she just said... | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
-.."Do you know your parents were -in the Free Wales Army in the '70s?" | 0:10:52 | 0:10:57 | |
-I was like, "OK." | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
-Then she said, -"And Santa Claus doesn't exist." | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
-"You're on a roll, -aren't you, Gran?" | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
-Why tell me this? I'm nine. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
-"I thought you were 20 -with a growth hormone problem." | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
-So, that's what I found out. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
-My parents were members -of the Free Wales Army. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
-How many of you are familiar -with the Free Wales Army? | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
-That's quite good. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:28 | |
-I've asked that question -on my tour of Wales. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
-Usually, if people don't know, -they'll say so. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
-But if they do, people just go, -"I'm not saying shit." | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
-You were very brave there. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:40 | |
-A lot of places, people think -it might be a sting operation... | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
-..and don't say anything. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
-The best I've had -is someone doing this. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
-So, well done. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
-Is anyone unfamiliar -with the Free Wales Army? | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
-Wales, eh? | 0:11:58 | 0:11:59 | |
-If you don't know, -are you familiar with the IRA? | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
-And the Chuckle Brothers? | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
-It's basically... | 0:12:10 | 0:12:11 | |
-I don't want to take the piss... | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
-..but it was a small army -of which my parents were members... | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
-..that wanted freedom for Wales, -which was fantastic. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
-But it was weird. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:23 | |
-When I found out, -after my grandmother told me... | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
-..my mother was willing -to talk about it. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
-Too willing to talk about it. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
-All of you probably had lullabies -and fairy tales at bedtime. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:40 | |
-My mother would go... | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
-.."Do you want a story?" | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
-I'd be, "Oh, God!" | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
-"Free Wales Army?" -"Yes." | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
-Every night. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:54 | |
-I'll give you an example. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
-One story started off like this. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
-"So, we had a load -of unstable dynamite..." | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
-Apparently, dynamite goes off. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
-Not as in kaboom, -but as in sour milk. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
-"That dynamite's like ripe cheese!" | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
-This bloke had a bag -of unstable dynamite. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
-I've seen photos, red sticks... | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
-..like the ones in cartoons, -with TNT down the side. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
-Free Wales Army or Wile E Coyote? | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
-He had to get rid -of this unstable dynamite. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
-"I know, I'll go for a walk... | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
-"..and throw it into -that dry river bed by the field. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
-"And I'll take the dog with me. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
-He goes for a walk, the bag splits, -the sticks fall out... | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
-..and the dog thinks -the bloke wants to play catch. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
-He picks up one dynamite stick... | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
-..and chases the bloke around -the field for about an hour... | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
-..before eventually biting -into the stick and exploding. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
-Just woof. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:06 | |
-Just a reminder. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:11 | |
-This was the story my mother told me -to help me get to sleep. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
-"Yes, the dog died. OK, goodnight." | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
-If it wasn't stories like that, -it'd be political polemics. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:25 | |
-"Just so you know, -before you go to bed... | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
-"..assassination for political ends -is always morally justifiable. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
-"Mwah, love you." | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
-. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:39 | |
-Subtitles | 0:14:41 | 0:14:41 | |
-Subtitles - -Subtitles | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
-It was a small army, -only 20 members at any one time. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:49 | |
-All the time, just 20, in an army. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
-To put that in context, there have -been 20 members of Guns N' Roses. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:58 | |
-I talk about it with people -who aren't familiar with the FWA. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:07 | |
-Some people, -especially English people, go... | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
-.."That sounds amazing, -they were a crack team! | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
-"Like a Welsh Expendables." | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
-No, there were very few of them, -not one was expendable. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
-They were never in a gunfight... | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
-..but it would have been terrifying -for them if they had been. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:28 | |
-Down! | 0:15:29 | 0:15:30 | |
-Bang! | 0:15:31 | 0:15:32 | |
-Oh, crap! | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
-"You've shot Llinos. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
-"She was our lift, so, really..." | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
-I'd hear more and more stories. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
-The Free Wales Army -only had one casualty. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
-That was my dad. | 0:15:58 | 0:15:59 | |
-He'd been shot... | 0:16:00 | 0:16:01 | |
-Thanks for that, fuck you! | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
-He was shot... | 0:16:04 | 0:16:05 | |
-..when they were on manoeuvres -on a mountain... | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
-..with bayonets and so on. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
-They had to run down a field -and stab hay bales and stuff. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
-Dad's job was to hold up a gun, -count to three then shoot. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:22 | |
-But the Thomases -lack upper body strength... | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
-..and he got tired very quickly. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
-So, he went, "Three, two, one" -and shot himself in the foot. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
-In a proper army, -if you shoot yourself in the foot... | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
-..you get an honourable discharge. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
-In the Free Wales Army, -if you shoot yourself in the foot... | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
-..all you get is a shit nickname. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
-My dad's nickname was Foot. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:48 | |
-Dad was Foot. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:50 | |
-There was a bloke called Hotlips -because he tried a curry once. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
-Only one of them had a cool nickname -and that was the Butcher of Blaenau. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:03 | |
-He was a butcher in Blaenau. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
-That's the Butcher of Blaenau, -the Milkman of Blaenau... | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
-There was a lot of stuff, -a lot of stuff... | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
-They did things like... | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
-..exchange schemes with -other terrorist organizations. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:26 | |
-We had to go to France -when we were at school. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
-They went to Palestine. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
-They arranged an exchange scheme -with the PLO. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
-It's important you know this. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
-The PLO, the Palestinian -Liberation Organization. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
-Not P&O. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:45 | |
-That would be a weird exchange. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
-Two FWA blokes just loading... | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
-"Screw it, we're the cabaret." | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
-A bloke from the PLO -had come over... | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
-..and two blokes from Neath -went out there. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
-Now, the PLO chap -had a lot more fun... | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
-..than the Neath blokes did -out in Palestine... | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
-..running around for two weeks and -looking in the Arabic phrasebook. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:16 | |
-"I can't find -'Where can I get a pint?'" | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
-That happened, the exchange schemes. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
-They were armed to the teeth, -technically. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
-We had this gun, -and we had this helmet. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:32 | |
-I got this when I was small. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
-It was a gift from my parents -when I was six. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
-Look at it! | 0:18:40 | 0:18:41 | |
-I wore it today for the first time -since I was small. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
-Look at this. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:49 | |
-Hang on. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:50 | |
-This is really painful. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
-I only realized today -that this is a child-sized helmet. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
-What the hell -did they have planned?! | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
-They were trying to turn me -into a child soldier. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
-So, we had those. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
-But we had more than that. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
-As I said, we had one landmine -and we had that gun. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
-But there was another landmine. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
-We had two landmines in the house. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
-One in the cupboard... | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
-..and my grandmother -had one under the bed. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
-In her words, for home protection. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
-"I can't get rid of it -in case someone breaks in." | 0:19:37 | 0:19:42 | |
-What would she do -if someone broke in? | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
-"I'll take us both out, prick." | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
-The thing is, -she used to keep it under her bed... | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
-..metal, circular, -under the bed, next to a bedpan. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
-Now, that's something... | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
-..that you don't want to mix up -at two in the morning. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
-I think she might have, because -that landmine was quite rusty. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
-She had actually -got rid of that landmine... | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
-..because in 1988, they'd had... | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
-..this was in Swansea... | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
-..they'd had an arms amnesty -in Swansea. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
-You could hand in weapons, -and many people did. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
-Grandad's World War Two revolver, -that sort of thing. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:32 | |
-Then my grandmother -turns up with a landmine. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
-She'd walked from Brynmill -to Cockett police station... | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
-..ideally situated -for an arms amnesty. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
-She walked, even though -she could have taken the bus. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
-But she thought, -"I don't want to kill everyone." | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
-She said that to the duty sergeant -when she handed it in... | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
-..ironically in a Spar bag for life. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
-She just went, boom. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
-"I've walked here with this. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
-"I didn't want to kill -everyone on the bus." | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
-He said, "You're a saint. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
-That's a fairly low level -for sainthood. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
-She could have killed -a busload of people, but she didn't. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
-People still talked about that -at her funeral. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
-We'd written stuff down -for the poor priest... | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
-..but he hadn't read through it -before starting the eulogy. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
-"Gladys was a good woman -beloved by all..." | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
-Fairly standard stuff. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
-"She was very involved -in Labour politics. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
-"I'm sorry, I can't read that. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
-"It looks like nearly killed -a busload of people but didn't." | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
-Late arrivals were asking, -"Is this Gladys?" | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
-That was the first time -I went to a funeral. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
-But it wasn't the first time -I had to deal with death. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
-Most people learn about death -with the loss of a pet or something. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:01 | |
-I found out aged nine, -when my mother came up and said... | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
-.."Do you know when I die? | 0:22:05 | 0:22:06 | |
-"I want to show you the package -I want from the undertaker's." | 0:22:07 | 0:22:12 | |
-Genuinely, she had a brochure! | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
-I was nine, and she thought, -"Now's the time, he needs to know." | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
-"I want to be cremated and scattered -in the field by Aberglasney. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
-"Just remember, OK?" | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
-"OK." | 0:22:25 | 0:22:26 | |
-"Goodnight!" again. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:28 | |
-About a year ago, she asked... | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
-.."Do you remember where I want -my ashes spread? Aberglasney?" | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
-"Yes, I still think about it. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
-"I've spoken -to my psychiatrist about it." | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
-"I've changed my mind now because -they've got a new toilet block... | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
-"..and it's very vulgar, -so I don't want to go there now." | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
-I thought, "You're not going -to use it, you mad bat. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
-"Why do you care? You're insane." | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
-I told her last weekend... | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
-..that I'd be talking about -her change of heart about her ashes. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:05 | |
-She said, "Oh, no, don't say that, -people will think I'm weird." | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
-An hour later, she revealed... | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
-..that she was considering -putting AstroTurf in the bath. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
-She's eccentric, -I think that's the word. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
-If I use the word mental, -people say it's a bit much. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
-Then I tell the stories, -and it's, "Fair enough." | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
-I prefer the word eccentric. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
-By the mid-1980s... | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
-..she was a single parent raising me -and my sister, and it was hard. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
-I've got much more sympathy now -for her eccentricities. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
-I'm a parent myself now, -we have two young daughters. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
-Cheers. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:48 | |
-Who here has children? | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
-Yes, full of joy. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
-Who doesn't have children? | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
-It's lovely, don't get me wrong. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
-Children are lovely. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
-Children are the best things -I've ever created with my penis. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:12 | |
-It's not a long list, -babies and one IKEA bookshelf. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
-After I finished, -I found the Allen key. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
-"That would have been handy -an hour ago. I need Savlon!" | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
-Everything changes -when you have a baby. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
-Your house changes and now we have -two, there are toys everywhere. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
-Choking hazards everywhere, -and they don't work. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
-The first thing we bought -was a baby monitor. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
-When I was young, baby monitors -were a microphone and a speaker. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:56 | |
-That's all. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:57 | |
-These days, they have a camera -pointing at the baby... | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
-..and you have a screen -in the room where you are. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
-You can look at the baby all day. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
-We had one of those. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
-We watched the baby on the screen -all day, just looking at her face. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
-Her nose. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:16 | |
-Her cheeks. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:19 | |
-Her lips. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:21 | |
-Her chin. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:22 | |
-I said to my wife, -"We made that with our love." | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
-We did that all day, every day. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
-But in the dark, -it goes into night vision... | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
-..and the baby looks -like the fucking exorcist. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
-Everything changes. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:42 | |
-In the day, she's just cute. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
-Six o'clock, it's dark, -and it's horrific. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
-I remember the first time -the baby cried at 3.00am. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
-My wife asked me to go. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
-I looked at the screen and said... | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
-.."No, I'm not going in there -by myself, not without a shotgun... | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
-"..and a priest." | 0:26:07 | 0:26:08 | |
-That's the only time -when it's OK... | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
-..to take a priest -into your child's room. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
-That joke went down better than it -did in Dublin, so thanks for that. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:23 | |
-. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:25 | |
-Subtitles | 0:26:27 | 0:26:27 | |
-Subtitles - -Subtitles | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
-Has anyone seen The Omen? | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
-Basically, if you haven't seen it, -it's about the spawn of Satan... | 0:26:35 | 0:26:40 | |
-..born of a jackal... | 0:26:42 | 0:26:43 | |
-..pure evil. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
-The fact is... | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
-..in that film, -the kid doesn't do anything... | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
-..I don't have to deal with -five times every freaking day. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
-It's horseshit. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:56 | |
-The worst thing he does... | 0:26:57 | 0:26:58 | |
-..is almost hit his nursery nurse -down the stairs with a tricycle. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
-Keyword, almost. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:05 | |
-He doesn't actually do it. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
-My children set up tripwires -at the top of the stairs. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
-There's one scene in The Omen -where they take the kid... | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
-..to one of those -drive-through wildlife parks. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
-When they pass the baboons, the -baboons all sense evil in the car. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:24 | |
-They start to attack the car. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
-They just go nuts, right. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
-I took my kids to Whipsnade Zoo. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
-In the baboon bit, -it was exactly the same. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
-The baboons began -to throw shit at our car. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
-But my kids were in the car -matching them turd for turd. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:42 | |
-That was in my car. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
-The head baboon looked right at me. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
-"Leave this guy alone, -he's having a bad day. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
-"Guys, remember, -we are above all entertainers. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
-"Move on, mate, go to the gift shop. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
-When I was growing up, -it was really hard... | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
-When I was growing up, it was -a lot harder to make children cry. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:08 | |
-You really had to hit them. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
-The father of one of my friends -broke his rotator cuff... | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
-..just by whacking him one evening, -and he cried a little bit. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
-My kids cried this morning because -I'd bought them a blind bag... | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
-Do you know what a blind bag is? | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
-It's a swindle. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:29 | |
-You'll know it's a con -if you have kids. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
-It's a toy in a vacuum-packed bag. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
-But you can't see what's in it -until you've bought it. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
-Then the kids freak out -if they've already got it. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:45 | |
-Tough. We've bought it now. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
-She started to cry this morning. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
-My child cried this morning... | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
-..essentially because Dadi doesn't -have X-ray freaking vision. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
-"Dad's not clairvoyant. Boohoo!" | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
-As a parent, I used to think -that 9/11 was something really bad. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:09 | |
-Then I found out that -Osama Bin Laden had 24 children... | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
-..and I'm much more sympathetic now. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
-I've only got two, -and I've never blown anything up. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
-The worst I've done is walk -into a giant Jenga in a pub. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:29 | |
-"Death to the West! | 0:29:29 | 0:29:30 | |
-"Sorry, they're teething, -I'm in a terrible mood." | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
-It's like being a hostage. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
-I feel like a hostage, right. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
-I'm giving you mixed messages, -but I do feel like a hostage. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
-There are two of them, and I look -after them in the day sometimes. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
-Just me and two little kids, -and I feel like Terry Waite. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
-Some of you know. -Who remembers Terry Waite? | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
-If you don't, -he was taken hostage... | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
-What an amazing reaction. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
-Someone went, "Hooray! | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
-"Finally, someone's doing -Terry Waite material!" | 0:30:04 | 0:30:09 | |
-If you don't remember Terry Waite... | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
-..in the 1980s, he was an assistant -to the Archbishop of Canterbury... | 0:30:12 | 0:30:17 | |
-..who was taken hostage in Beirut. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
-The job title assistant -to the Archbishop of Canterbury... | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
-..doesn't sound as if you'd be -at risk of kidnap in Beirut. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
-"What's the job? Stuff around the -office, teas and coffees and so on. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
-"And you might have to broker peace -in the Middle East." | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
-"What was that?" | 0:30:36 | 0:30:37 | |
-"Don't worry about it." | 0:30:38 | 0:30:39 | |
-He went to Beirut -and was held hostage for five years. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
-Five years tied to a radiator, -and that's how I feel. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:47 | |
-But at least he was able -to spend five years thinking... | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
-.."If I get out of this alive, -I'm getting a book deal." | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
-At least he had that option, -but I don't. | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
-That actually happened. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
-He was released, wrote a book -and sold half a million copies. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:07 | |
-The person I feel sorry for -is his publisher. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
-He was probably going, -"Hey, Terry, great book. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
-"Sold half a million copies, -it's a hit. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
-"What have you got next?" | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
-And Terry's just, -"Um, well, that was the bulk of it. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:28 | |
-"That was the interesting bit, -I've told you the rest. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
-"Teas and coffees and bits -and pieces around the office. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
-"I'm not sure -there's a book in that." | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
-The publisher would go... | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
-.."Don't worry, I've got a plan, -but you're not going to like it. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
-"Basically, I've booked you in for -a two-week speaking tour of Nigeria. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:50 | |
-"I've put the word around... | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
-"..that you called Boko Haram -a bunch of knobheads... | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
-"..and we'll see what happens." | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
-You know, I do... | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
-Children. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
-I try to be a good parent. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
-It's hard, but I try. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
-I try to be at least -as good a parent as mine were. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
-Again, Free Wales Army members. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
-I remember my parents' friends -coming over. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
-I'd sit on someone's lap, -not knowing they were in the FWA. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:26 | |
-They'd say things like... | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
-.."Do you know anything -about the Clywedog bomb in 1966?" | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
-And I'd be, "No!" | 0:32:32 | 0:32:33 | |
-"I'm nine." | 0:32:35 | 0:32:36 | |
-And he'd go, "No, me neither." | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
-It's weird talking about it. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
-I've discussed the FWA in gigs, -and I remember one in Barry. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
-Someone came up to me, -and he was only about 20. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
-Very young. He came up to me. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
-"You mentioned the Free Wales Army. -Can I show you something?" | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
-He just unzipped his top and went... | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
-He had a tattoo, -Free Wales Army For Ever. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
-I thought, "Well, OK." | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
-But if you're a member -of a terrorist organization... | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
-..it's important to have -what I'd call plausible deniability. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
-If you get arrested... | 0:33:23 | 0:33:24 | |
-No-one in the Mafia gets arrested, -"We think you're a Mafia member." | 0:33:24 | 0:33:29 | |
-"You can't prove it." -"OK, unzip." | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
-"Goddammit. Knew I shouldn't -have got the tattoo that says.... | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
-.."'I love the Mafia, -of which I am a part.' | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
-"Shoulda got the dolphin tattoo, -that would have been cute." | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
-I'll say a couple of other things. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
-I've heard these stories -since I was small. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
-My favourite story -concerns my father being arrested. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:56 | |
-Actually, he hadn't. -He'd been jailed. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
-Some of his friends -had been arrested... | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
-..for conspiracy -to commit acts of terror. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
-Dad had decided to go -to give a speech during the trial... | 0:34:07 | 0:34:12 | |
-..just to put everyone off. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
-"This'll confuse 'em!" | 0:34:17 | 0:34:18 | |
-He started to make a speech. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
-You know this was in Swansea -because the judge said to him... | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
-..I swear to God, this is the quote, -"Oi, dickhead, come over here!" | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
-My father said, "What?" | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
-"Are you going to shut up?" -"No." | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
-"In that case, I'm putting you -in jail until the end of the trial. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
-"It should be about a fortnight. -Take him away." | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
-So he had to go to jail. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:44 | |
-This happened on a Friday. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
-On the Monday, -he was meant to be in work. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
-In those days, -the boss came around with a list... | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
-..and ticked names off -to make sure you were there. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
-Off he went. -"Thomas? Where's Thomas?" | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
-His friend just said, -"Oh, he's in jail!" | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
-The boss said, "Jail, is it? -Right. I don't know what to do. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:11 | |
-"I can't put him down as sick. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
-"I'll put him down as holiday. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
-"That way, -he gets paid for the time." | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
-That actually happened. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
-I'll tell you something else. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
-My mother's just had -her first mobile phone. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
-It was six months ago. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:32 | |
-She let my kids play with it. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
-This irritated me, -it's just a segue now. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
-My kids broke her phone. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
-Who has an iPhone? | 0:35:42 | 0:35:43 | |
-Yes, everyone. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:45 | |
-If you break it, -you have to take it... | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
-..to somewhere called the Genius Bar -in an Apple store. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
-That's not progress if it takes -a genius to repair something. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
-When I was growing up, -if anything electrical broke down... | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
-..we'd take it -to someone called Stupid Clive. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
-We'd wheel the TV over to him. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
-"The telly's broken." | 0:36:10 | 0:36:11 | |
-"I'll sort it out." | 0:36:12 | 0:36:13 | |
-He'd wheel it into the back room -and you'd just hear hammering. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:18 | |
-"Bastard thing!" | 0:36:18 | 0:36:19 | |
-He'd wheel it back out -and it would work fine. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
-So, iPhones aren't progress. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
-Anyway, that's a segue. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
-One more story before I finish. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
-All the FWA stories -are from the '60s and '70s. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:35 | |
-But something happened. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
-Actually, I'd asked my mother... | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
-..if she had any regrets -about being a member of the FWA. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
-They were essentially terrorists... | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
-..spreading fear, planting bombs, -causing some damage. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
-Any regrets? | 0:36:51 | 0:36:52 | |
-This is genuinely what Mam said. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
-"Yes, I never got to kick -an Englishman in the bollocks." | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
-That was my mother's big regret. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
-This was a long time ago, -but she's still got it. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
-That slight crazy mobster quality. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
-I was going through -her address book... | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
-..about six months ago. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:14 | |
-I found the number -for a company called TSU. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
-Then, in brackets... | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
-..private South African -mercenary firm. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
-This woman is 72 -and lives in Brynmill in Swansea. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
-"Why have you got the number -of a South African mercenary firm?" | 0:37:30 | 0:37:35 | |
-Genuinely, she said, -"Because you never know." | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
-What the hell could happen? | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
-I'm really terrified now because -she lives next door to students... | 0:37:42 | 0:37:47 | |
-..and they can be noisy. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:48 | |
-One night, -they'll push her over the edge. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
-She'll be straight on the phone. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
-"Hello, is this the private -South African mercenary firm? | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
-"Good, I've got a voucher." | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
-Back to bed she goes, -then 20 minutes later... | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
-..black army helicopters -landing on next door's roof. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
-Then through the wall, you hear, -"Target down, target down. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:16 | |
-"Clear, into the second room. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
-"Target down, clear the room. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
-"Upstairs now. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:22 | |
-"Targets down, clear. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
-"Up to the third level. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
-"Site clear." | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
-Silence for a minute, -then a knock on Mam's door. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
-It's a massive six foot five -South African in a ski mask... | 0:38:32 | 0:38:37 | |
-..holding two bags... | 0:38:37 | 0:38:38 | |
-..full of heads. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:41 | |
-He hands them over and says, -"OK, give me the voucher. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
-"The next one is free." | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
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-I had to ask why they were so angry. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
-Why they were members -of the Free Wales Army? | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
-They were angry with the English -but angrier with the British Empire. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:10 | |
-The British were the real enemy. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
-I'd tried to find out -why they were so angry with them. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
-For the show, -I thought I'd look up... | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
-..some of the bad things -that the British Empire did... | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
-..and make a couple of jokes -about them. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
-But if you look up the top five -British imperial war atrocities... | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
-..not a lot of jokes. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
-This was my face. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
-"Oh, God, straight away." | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
-What's this? Inspired the Nazis? -This isn't funny. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
-The funniest thing I could find... | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
-..or the most light-hearted thing -that the British Empire did... | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
-..were the 19th century -opium wars... | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
-..where they sent people to China -to get all our heroin back. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
-They sent the army and navy... | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
-..working class boys, -all willing to go out to China. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:05 | |
-"I'm willing to give up my life... | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
-"..to make sure that -my darling Queen, our dear Queen... | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
-"..gets her daily dose of smack. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
-"I want to make sure -there's enough heroin... | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
-"..for every man, woman -and child in my country." | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
-Essentially, that's what they said. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
-I went to Swansea University. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
-My university experience -was very different to theirs. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
-They'd formed an army. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
-The closest I'd got... | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
-..was sitting -on the committee at university... | 0:40:35 | 0:40:40 | |
-..that ran the tuck shop. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
-In 2002, Nestle was doing something -slightly immoral in Africa. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:49 | |
-Overcharging -for synthetic baby milk. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
-The lefties said, "That's terrible, -let's do something," so, we did. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
-Thanks to me, you can't buy Rolos -at Swansea University now. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
-You're welcome, Africa. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
-This is amazing. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:08 | |
-I was at university in Swansea -just after 9/11. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
-It's a good uni, it is. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:14 | |
-But it's not exactly Oxbridge. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
-I saw something -that was pure optimism. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
-A pub I used to go to, -Spoonies, Wetherspoons... | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
-A lot of students went there. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
-MI6 had started to put beer mats -in Wetherspoons in Swansea. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
-"Have you considered -a career in MI6?" | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
-Now, that's optimism. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
-What quality of people -would they get? | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
-The best outcome there -would be that Osama Bin Laden... | 0:41:38 | 0:41:43 | |
-What did they imagine would happen? | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
-Osama running through some -Afghan terror network tunnels... | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
-..being chased by one bloke. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
-Osama would eventually be trapped -against the back of the cave. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:01 | |
-"Where did they ever find -a man of your calibre?" | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
-"Wetherspoons, Swansea. -Bang. He's down, boys! | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
-"We're all going to Spoofers!" | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
-Before I go, this is a story -that happened six months ago. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:17 | |
-I was at a family friend's wedding -with my mother. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:23 | |
-My mother was standing over there, -just ruining the buffet. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
-Shocking! | 0:42:28 | 0:42:29 | |
-Ever seen anyone eating -two Scotch eggs at once? Mental! | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
-I was talking to a bloke over here. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
-He was a big boy, -broad shoulders, fit bloke. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:43 | |
-"So, what do you do?" | 0:42:43 | 0:42:44 | |
-"I'm actually a member of Special -Branch's anti-terror unit." | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
-"Oh, that's interesting. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
-"I actually... | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
-"This might be -of some interest to you. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
-"That lady over there who's -currently ruining the buffet... | 0:42:57 | 0:43:01 | |
-"..with two Scotch eggs -in her mouth, that's my mum. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
-"She used to be a member -of the Free Wales Army. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
-"You probably -haven't heard of them." | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
-And he laughed. He laughed. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
-"Oh, we've heard of the FWA. -We've actually got a running joke. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
-"Every day -at the start of the day... | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
-..we run through a list of -current terror threats to Britain. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
-"It starts off ISIS, maximum threat. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
-"Al-Qaeda, maximum threat. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
-"Then, an hour and a half later, -after all the other threats... | 0:43:34 | 0:43:39 | |
-"..just as a joke, we get to -Free Wales Army, minimal threat." | 0:43:39 | 0:43:44 | |
-And he laughed again. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
-"Oh, well, good speaking to you. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
-"Mam, Mam, put the Scotch egg down, -for Christ's sake. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
-"That bloke over there -has a running joke about the FWA." | 0:43:59 | 0:44:04 | |
-She said, "Oh." | 0:44:05 | 0:44:06 | |
-She took out her phone. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:08 | |
-Remember the old days -when the IRA was active? | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 | |
-They'd call ahead -with coded warnings. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:17 | |
-Mam just picked up her phone. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
-"Hiya. This is Helen -from the Free Wales Army. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:23 | |
-"Yes, we're back. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:24 | |
-"I'd like to claim responsibility -for an attack. What attack? | 0:44:29 | 0:44:33 | |
-"A kick to the bollocks one of -your pricks is about to take." | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
-Do you know what? | 0:44:38 | 0:44:39 | |
-A lot of people have asked me this. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:43 | |
-"What effect has being the child -of Free Wales Army members... | 0:44:44 | 0:44:49 | |
-"..had on your life, Dan?" | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
-And I thought... | 0:44:52 | 0:44:53 | |
-.."Well, this isn't normal!" | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
-You've been fantastic. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:02 | |
-Thanks for coming, it means a lot. -I've been Dan Thomas, goodnight. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:07 | |
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