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Hi! It's Top Of The Pops! Have we got a show for you? | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
Have we got a show for you? | 0:00:04 | 0:00:05 | |
-And it is live! -And it's live! | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
-And they are the Conway Brothers! -Which one's Ross? | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
1985, the year in which Top Of The Pops | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
had never looked more professional... | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
When you were watching it at home, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:16 | |
it looked like this really sophisticated nightclub. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
..or felt more competitive. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
There wasn't that much camaraderie with other bands. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
Like, whispering and talking and pointing. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
The show now reflected the state of Thatcher's Britain, | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
with a new breed of ambitious pop star... | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
We were so confident. We knew it was going to happen. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
..rubbing shoulders with passionate political activists. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
Their job was to look like they were having a great time, | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
and here I'm singing about, you know, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
war and death, strikes, nuclear weapons. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
..all soundtracked by the rise of sample-filled electronica... | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
Now, why anybody would want the sound of two dogs having | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
intercourse baffled me. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
..and topped off by a wind-tunnel of big-haired power ballads. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
You could see all the fillings in your mouth and whatever. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
I couldn't watch it half the time. I was like, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
"Oh, my... Oh, no. Oh, no." | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
# Everybody wants to rule the world... # | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
Imagine a vehicle that can drive you five miles for a penny, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
a vehicle that needs no petrol, just a battery, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
and that takes the press of a button to start, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
the squeeze of a lever to stop. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
The Sinclair C5. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
It's a new power in personal transport. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
January 1985 saw the birth of an '80s icon in a brave new | 0:01:42 | 0:01:47 | |
tech world. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
And in a parallel universe, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
Top Of The Pops also ventured into pastures new. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
Now, on One, the people | 0:01:58 | 0:01:59 | |
and songs that are everyone's talking point in Top Of The Pops. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
The show was still run by Michael Hurll | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
and regularly attracted ten million viewers, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
but the first episode of the year had an announcement to make. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
CHEERING | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
There are one or two changes in format on this week's | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
Top Of The Pops. Richard is now going to explain all. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
Well, it looks like this, you see. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
We went out to find out what you wanted from Top Of The Pops, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
and the overwhelming request was more top hits, so from this week, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
we count down the top ten, starting with Foreigner at number ten. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
# ..this lonely life... # | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
In days gone by, only seven or eight acts would feature on the show. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
This year, with short clips of videos from the top ten and beyond, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
there would be up to 19. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
# ..I want you to show me... # | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
This would soon benefit one band in particular. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
Dead Or Alive had struggled in '84. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
Late in that year, they got new producers and a new lease of life. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
But their first single together proved a challenge. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
It was the most frustrating | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
record in the history of Stock Aitken Waterman. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
It would go up one week, it would go back the week after, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
then it would go up and it would go down. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
After the whole of the rest of that year, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
it still hadn't really cracked the top 40. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
So Pete Waterman took it under his personal...his personal belt, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
to make sure that it was a hit. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
CBS said they wanted another mix. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
Now, I have to tell you, at this point, we'd done about five mixes. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
We were running out of ideas. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
And the BBC had a sound-effects department, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
and you could buy these sound-effects records. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
And covered everything - | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
every sound you could imagine was on these BBC archive sounds. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
You know, doors, bridges, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
bombs. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
Police sirens, everything. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
So, I'm looking down this | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
and I noticed there was on the list two dogs having intercourse. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
Now, why anybody would want | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
the sound of two dogs having intercourse baffled me. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
We got carried away with it, and we put it on the record. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
So, it went out just the week before Christmas. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
So, when we came back, the first week in January, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
every club was playing this TDF mix. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
I mean, it was like the depot was full of orders. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
DOGS HOWLING | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
TDF, er, you know, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
was not tour de force. It actually stood for two dogs F-ing. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
# If I I get to know your name... # | 0:04:40 | 0:04:46 | |
Through January '85, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
the TDF mix edged the song up the charts. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
And as fate would have it, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
in the last week of January, Top Of The Pops introduced their new | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
slot featuring bands just breaking into the top 40. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
# Open up your lovin' arms I want some want some... # | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
Then suddenly, 14 weeks in, it was number 40, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
and they decided to give us | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
a break on Top Of The Pops as a sort of new entry. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
This song has taken two and a half months to make the chart. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
From Liverpool, it's Pete Burns and Dead Or Alive. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
You Spin Me Round Like A Record. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
# ..move in just a little bit closer... # | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
So, when Michael Hurll called you and said, you know, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
"We're going to put this record on as a breaker," | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
we knew at that point that was the break we needed. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
# Watch out, here I come | 0:05:33 | 0:05:34 | |
# You spin me right round, baby Right round | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
# Like a record, baby Right round, round, round... # | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
No matter how many mixes we'd done, the fact that Top Of The Pops | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
was going to show the video, we knew it was all over. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
# Your love... # | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
Because we knew that once people saw Pete with his eye patch with | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
all the flags, we would be in the top 20 the next week. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
We knew. | 0:05:58 | 0:05:59 | |
And that's the power that Top Of The Pops had. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
We've got a new number one for you on this week's Top Of The Pops, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
and it's a live Top Of The Pops, of course. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
Dead Or Alive, another Merseyside band. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
You want that moment where your dad goes, "Well, I've seen it all now." | 0:06:12 | 0:06:17 | |
Don't you, you know? "Oh, well, that's ridiculous." | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
# You spin me right round, baby Right round... # | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
I'm sure there were houses throughout the UK going, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
"What's that?" | 0:06:26 | 0:06:27 | |
# You spin me right round, baby Right round | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
# Like a record, baby Right round, round, round... # | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
The dog howls on Dead Or Alive's infamous TDF mix were | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
programmed with a keyboard sampler. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
# Hey... # | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
This new tech was much-loved by big producer | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
acts like Trevor Horn's The Art Of Noise, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
who performed tracks on Top Of The Pops with minimum vocals | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
and sampled sounds. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:53 | |
Up till now, their favourite toy, the Fairlight Sampler, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
was, at 30 grand, the same price as a house. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
But in '85, at a quarter of the price, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
came the Emulator II. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
And it inspired a young bedroom producer at his mum's | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
house in Leytonstone. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:14 | |
Around the start of '85, I was just at home | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
and I was reading the paper and I saw that there was a | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
programme on about Vietnam coming on, so I taped it. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
In World War II, the average age of the combat soldier was 26. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
In Vietnam, he was 19. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
And I found it very intriguing, the fact that the kids at the time that | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
were going out to battle were only 19 years old, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
and yet in America you can't even have a drink till you're 21. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
So I taped the programme, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:45 | |
and I was just mucking about with some rhythms | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
and stuff like that, and I put some of the commentary into the Emulator. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:53 | |
And one bit just said, "In Vietnam, he was 19." | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
In Vietnam, he was 19. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:58 | |
And I tapped it a few times, you know, on the keyboard, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
and it went, "Na-na-na-na-na-na," and I thought, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
"Wow! That's different." | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
Na-na-na-na-19. 19. 19. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
Na-na-na-na. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:10 | |
The Vietnam war has inspired an unusual pop record due to be | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
released next week. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:15 | |
All the indications are that it's going to be a big hit. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
In World War II, the average age of the combat soldier was 26. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
In Vietnam, he was 19. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
In-in-in-in in Vietnam, he was 19. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
Alongside the single, Paul asked the producers of Vietnam Requiem | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
to create a video from the documentary's powerful footage. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
In Vietnam, the combat soldier typically served a 12-month | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
tour of duty, but was exposed to hostile fire almost every day. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
It was so powerful. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
You're talking about young boys being sent off to foreign wars, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:49 | |
you know, and it really, really had a resonance. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
According to a veteran's administration study, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
half of the Vietnam combat veterans suffer from what psychiatrists | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
call post-traumatic stress disorder. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
Many vets complain of alienation, rage or guilt. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
Some succumb to suicidal thoughts. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
Eight to ten years after coming home, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
almost 800,000 men are still fighting the Vietnam War. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
I remember going into a Chrysalis and watching it, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
and I saw three women journalists actually come out crying. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
And that was... | 0:09:19 | 0:09:20 | |
We thought, "Wow, what have we created here?" | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
It went in at number four in the charts first weekend, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
which was incredible. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
A brand-new act to go in and number four, at that time, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
it just did not happen. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
In Vietnam, he was 19. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:33 | |
In-in-in-in Vietnam, he was 19. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
Michael Hurll, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:38 | |
who was the producer of Top Of The Pops at the time, basically | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
kept on saying to me, you know, "Do you not think that you could | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
"really do something on Top Of The Pops?" | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
I think it would have been difficult for him to do that. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
How would he perform the song? | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
He'd probably end up like Harold Faltermeyer did, with the most | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
boring live performance than I think you'd ever see on Top Of The Pops. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
Harold would not appear on Top Of The Pops again | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
and stalled at number two. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
But Paul's cut-and-paste technique in music and video | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
proved an irresistible chart-topping formula. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
He's a producer, he remixes records and he's number one. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
Yes, for the second week running, Paul Hardcastle, 19. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
We got to number one and we were quite amazed by it all, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
but we obviously wanted to stay there. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
Paul came up with several different mixes. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
And one of the reasons we did that was because | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
Duran Duran were right behind us at number two. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
# Choice for you is a view to a kill. # | 0:10:44 | 0:10:49 | |
I went back into the studio and I remixed the track | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
and I changed some of the vocals around. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
N-n-n-n-n-n-nineteen. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
I added some new documentary which I had found, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
which took the war on slightly further | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
and I called it the Destruction Mix. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
# Unlike Vietnam | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
# World War Two saw America unite behind their fighting men | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
# The two wars were just as different on the front lines | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
# As they were back home. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:13 | |
# N-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-nineteen. # | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
So a different edit would go on to Top Of The Pops each week... | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
..which then people went out and repurchased | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
and we stopped the biggest band most probably in the world then, which were the Duranies, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
and also they had the biggest film in the world at the time with View To A Kill. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
And little old me stopped them being number one | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
and it was quite a feat, really. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
I think Simon Le Bon wasn't too happy! | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
Excuse me. Aren't you... | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
Bon, Simon Le Bon. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
Now Dire Straits have said that they won't be touring after the end of next year. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
It's simply too expensive. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
But they've got a great video, Money For Nothing. This is it. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
'85 proved a turning point for the industry | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
and for Top Of The Pops. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:02 | |
Videos were now more than half of the show. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
MTV hadn't arrived in Europe yet, | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
but in America exposure on the channel almost guaranteed success. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:13 | |
By the mid-'80s what you were seeing | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
was the record companies at their peak power. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
They knew how to market things. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
If you were launching a new washing powder you'd do a big expensive ad, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
put it in lots of slots and hopefully give it | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
some sort of twist that got people talking about it. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
If you were launching a new band you'd make a big expensive video, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
get it on MTV and hopefully with some kind of innovative twist | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
that got people talking about it. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
# Now look at them yo-yos, that's the way you do it | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
# You play the guitar on the MTV | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
# That ain't workin', that's the way you do it | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
# Money for nothing and your chicks for free. # | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
And for three unknown musicians from Norway | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
with a background in prog rock, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
video production would change their fortunes entirely. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
Well, we were just three very ambitious guys | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
who moved away from our native Norway | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
without any other plan than to become pop stars. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:26 | |
Coming to England, that was really the first time | 0:13:26 | 0:13:31 | |
we sort of got bombarded with pop music. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
There wasn't really that much around in Norway. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
You know, you had, like, one hour a week on the radio | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
where they played pop music. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
We took the ferry over the first time we came over | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
and Human League was the first thing we heard in the cab. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
Builders would have blaring radios playing, | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
whistling along to pop songs that were current | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
and it just felt really vibey and really different. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
Then hearing things like Soft Cell, Depeche Mode, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
all that electronic stuff that was going on, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
was to us kind of like, whoa, this is kind of perfect for us. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
After a couple of years in the UK a-ha got a deal | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
and started doing the rounds of kids' TV shows. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
But there was a problem. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
Nobody bought their debut single. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
Until Warner Brothers US, who had signed a-ha, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
proposed a hugely expensive hand-drawn video aimed at MTV. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:41 | |
Now, three guys who come from Norway. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
It's reputed that £100,000 was spent on their video. It's worth every penny. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
A smash in America, now a smash in Britain. Take On Me, a-ha. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
# We're talking away... # | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
It was just kind of a sweet animated depiction of a relationship | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
between this dreaming young girl, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
who was all of a sudden called into the magazine | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
of her hero in the comic strip. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
# I'll be coming for your love OK | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
# Take on me | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
# Take on me | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
# Take me on | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
# Take on me | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
# I'll be gone. # | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
The way it sort of... Well, you just saw it develop, didn't you? | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
You just saw it start as a sketch | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
and then it turned into this full-blown video. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
# So, needless to say | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
# I'm odds and ends... # | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
I think it was something like 22,000 single drawings | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
made for that particular video. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:44 | |
# Slowly learning that life is OK | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
# Say after me | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
# It's no better to be safe than sorry... # | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
You suddenly see this video and the cost and you just go, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
"What? This is ridiculous." | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
# Take me on | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
# Take on me... # | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
The good thing is that we became very successful everywhere very fast. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
# In a day or two. # | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
We could not compete with anything like that. We couldn't do it. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
I just looked at it and thought, you know what? | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
If that's the way the record industry is going, God help it. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
I thought, that's a game-changer. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
They've made the video as important as the music. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
We actually sort of knew it was going to happen, | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
if I can say that. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
We were so confident. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
It helped us but it also propelled us | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
into this lighter end of the music press. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
The bad thing is you don't get to sculpt your career. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
Everybody assumes they know everything about you | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
based on that one song. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
# Take me on. # | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
And when those cheekbones finally appeared in person | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
on Top Of The Pops, their teen image was sealed. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
The fact that video led the way, it put our faces everywhere | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
and we didn't really expect that, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
so we felt kind of pushed into the Smash Hits | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
and we kind of just embraced it, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
but immediately thinking this is super uncomfortable. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
What's going to happen now? | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
We just tried to hold on for dear life. It was like riding a wild horse. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
# Take me on. # | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
I'm stuck there! I'm still stuck there! | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
1985 saw the biggest pop groups of recent years grow older | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
and start to take themselves very seriously. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
Half of the Durans indulged their artistic side with Arcadia. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:02 | |
# Wild kind of look to the day | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
# Opening eyes impale neon flickers. # | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
Spandau were in tax exile on a long world tour. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
Wham! were in China. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
And Culture Club were falling apart. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
This left a sizeable gap in the market. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
You always have, every two or three years, a new generation of pop fans | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
turning around where they don't necessarily want the same heroes | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
and heroines as their big brother or sister, they want their own. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
The record labels sensed an opportunity. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
As did one band from Coventry, whose big boots matched their ambitions | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
and who appeared to know exactly what they were doing. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
Two years ago when I first heard of King, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
a picture came through the post of a dolphin and Doc Martens boots. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
-Are you going to live that down? -I think both those things simply were... | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
We used the dolphin and the boots as a symbol | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
of what King were about musically and spiritually. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
# That's what my heart yearns for now | 0:18:59 | 0:19:04 | |
# Love and pride | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
# That's what my heart yearns for now | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
# Love and pride. # | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
When we arrived to do that debut performance on Top Of The Pops | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
I was wearing my yellow check suit. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
# Start your journey... # | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
We all had this big spiky hair going off all over the place. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
Almost like a Bay City Rollers kind of dress-up idea. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
# Take your hair dryer | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
# Blow them all away... # | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
I thought we could be that mixture | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
of a credible rock band who could appeal to a teen pop audience. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
Unfortunately for us, our record label looked at the check suits | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
and Dr Martens boots and saw a novelty band. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
They could say, OK, hit-single band, great. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
Maybe one year, two years of life. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
# Love and pride... # | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
'85, King were everywhere. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
I don't think there was one pop show that King did not appear on. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
# Pride. # | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
Throughout '85 I think we were on Top Of The Pops seven times. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
In the year that we broke through with things like Smash Hits and | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
videos and Top Of The Pops, you're going to be picked up by teenagers. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
In the end for us, unfortunately, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
that became the predominant audience that our record label | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
wanted to direct their focus for us towards. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
Automatically now, the credible music audience, the gatekeepers, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:40 | |
are looking at that and thinking, they are not a credible music band. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
# Love and pride | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
# That's what my heart yearns for now | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
# Love and pride. # | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
King weren't really part of my world. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
They weren't part of the club scene. They didn't feel that cool. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
They were like this weird, almost Frankenstein's monster, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
with styled up bits of lots of other bands stuck together | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
with a kind of Rod Stewart mullet and some DMs on top. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
Eventually we started bickering between ourselves as a unit | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
and by the time we got to the Christmas Top Of The Pops | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
we were pretty much over as a band anyway. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
But then we went on to do The Old Grey Whistle Test New Year's Eve. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
Och aye the noo, it's King! | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
And we were playing that show and my manager and I | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
had a serious conversation of saying, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
we've got one great moment here, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
why don't we go out and do our David Bowie Hammersmith moment? | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
And we seriously talked about it, which was to walk out on stage | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
and say, "Thanks everybody, it's been a great year, but King are never going to play together again." | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
And I kind of wish we'd done that now. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
But in '85 it wasn't just the teenage Top Of The Pops market | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
that record companies had their eye on. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
# I've got to take a little time | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
# A little time to think things over... # | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
I think the rise of the power ballad was very much | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
the record companies reasserting their control. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
It was a way of appealing back to the mainstream | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
who had been alienated by pop at the start of the '80s, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
by these weird girls dressed as boys and boys dressed as girls | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
and men wearing tablecloths across one shoulder. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
# In my life | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
# There's been heartache and pain. # | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
You know, here you had a good, honest person | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
singing into a wind machine with a tune you could recognise. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
Power ballad has to be very big hair. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
Very serious expression. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
Soaring vocals. Strings. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
In a way it was kind of the housewife's revenge. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
# I wanna know what love is | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
# Love that you feel inside | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
# I want you to show me | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
# I'm feeling so much love. # | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
Lots of synth washers and pads and drama. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
# Who's gonna drive you home | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
# Tonight? # | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
It was big drum sounds. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
# We're heading for something | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
# Somewhere I've never been... # | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
Snare drums going on for nine seconds per hit. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
# Sometimes I am frightened but I'm ready to learn... # | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
Lots of emotion and... | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
..a little bit of cheese. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
# Of the power of love. # | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
The Power Of Love was the biggest-selling record of '85 | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
in a year that record labels found multiple ways | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
to target the mainstream. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
The interesting thing about '85 I think | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
is the explosion of songs coming from movies. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
# Get into the groove... # | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
Madonna had Into The Groove from Desperately Seeking Susan. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
Harold Faltermeyer's Axel F was from Beverly Hills Cop. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
Duran Duran's View To A Kill. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
Tina Turner's We Don't Need Another Hero from Mad Max. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
You got a situation where a lot of the big corporations | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
actually had a film on. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
The synergy of record companies | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
and film companies, often being owned by the same people, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
and suddenly realising, we could maximise our exposure to this song | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
if we have it on the soundtrack. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
In '85 power ballads found a natural home on movie soundtracks. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:47 | |
And this tradition was arguably started by a ballad | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
from a British star, first released in '84. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
Holding Out For A Hero was written for the film Footloose. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
And it was in a very exciting part of the film | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
so it had to be high energy, you know. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
They took me to a film studios to play the rushes of the part | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
where Kevin Bacon was doing the chicken run in the film, you know. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
Where his foot gets stuck on the accelerator and he wins. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:23 | |
The record was initially a flop, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
until it was championed by the same clubbing audience | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
who adopted You Spin Me Round. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
And in '85 the song made a dramatic re-entry into the charts. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
And still at number two, a great lady | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
who had no idea that the single had been released until it charted. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
Holding Out For a Hero. Aren't we all? It's Bonnie Tyler. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
When I was asked to go on Top Of The Pops I'll never forget where I was | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
because I was living in New York at the time in a suite in Le Parker Meridien. | 0:25:56 | 0:26:01 | |
There was a swimming pool on the top floor | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
and I get a phone call to say, | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
"Come back to London to do Top Of The Pops." | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
And I said, "Yeah!" | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
# Where have all the good men gone | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
# And where are all the gods? | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
# Where's the street-wise Hercules | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
# To fight the rising odds? | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
# Isn't there a white knight... # | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
I didn't even know it had been a big hit in the gay bars. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
A lot of the gay bars and clubs and things were playing it. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:33 | |
# I dream of what I need... # | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
It became huge. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:36 | |
# I need a hero | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
# I'm holding out for a hero till the end of the night | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
# He's gotta be strong and he's gotta be fast | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
# And he's gotta be fresh from the fight... # | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
It's very majestic, you know. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
And with Jim Steinman, everything's in there but the kitchen sink. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
# I'm holding out for a hero till the morning light | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
# He's gotta be sure and he's gotta be soon... # | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
All those bongos, or whatever you call them. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
# Larger than life... # | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
And the backing vocals... | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
They build and they build and they build to... | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
..a crescendo. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
# Ah, ah | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
# Somewhere after midnight | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
# In my wildest fantasy... # | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
Oh, but the dreadful outfits of the '80s, oh, my God. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
My father used to warn me. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
He said, "You look like an American baseball player with them shoulder pads." | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
# Racing on the thunder and rising with the heat... # | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
In the '80s we all looked stupid like that. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
# It's gonna take a superman to sweep me off my feet. # | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
They always had these cameras underneath your chin. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:42 | |
Looking up your nose. You could see all the fillings in your mouth! | 0:27:44 | 0:27:49 | |
I couldn't watch it. Half the time I was like this. Oh, my God, no. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
# I need a hero | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
# I'm holding out for a hero till the morning light... # | 0:27:55 | 0:28:00 | |
I love the song, I love performing it live, as well. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
# And he's gotta be larger than life. # | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
# I need a hero | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
# I'm holding out for a hero till the end of the night | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
# He's gotta be strong and he's gotta be fast | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
# Gotta be fresh from the fight | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
# I need a hero! # | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
That's amazing! | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
Talking of heroes, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
July '85 saw a charity concert on a different scale. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
To me it is not a pop concert. To me it's not a TV show. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
To me it's simply a means of keeping people alive. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
It got Royal approval, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
as the new pop elite joined forces with rock's older statesman. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:50 | |
The feeling about the concert is so exciting. I think it's going to be marvellous. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
I think it'll be on my mind just how many people are watching while I'm singing. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
And the day was soundtracked by a power ballad | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
cut to extraordinary news footage. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
# You can't go on | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
# Thinking nothing's wrong | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
# But bye | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
# Who's gonna drive you home | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
# Tonight? # | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
The greatest show on earth, the Live Aid rock festival, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
has turned out to be the greatest fundraising event in history. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
# Who's gonna pick you up | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
# When you fall? # | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
It brought generations together, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
raised millions and revived rock music. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
# Who's gonna hang it up | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
# When you call? # | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
If you were a rock band on Live Aid here or in America | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
it did wonders for your career. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
# Who's gonna pay attention | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
# To your dreams? # | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
The Cars, Drive, you know, | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
that record sold millions on the back of it. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
We were going to be the first band on until quite late in the day | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
when they managed to get the mighty Quo, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
which was the perfect starter. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
# Here we are and here we are And here we go | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
# All aboard and we're hitting the road | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
# Here we go | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
# Rocking all over the world. # | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
I remember seeing U2 on it | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
and thinking, oh, my goodness, how fantastic is that? | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
# I can't believe the news today | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
# I can't close my eyes and make it go away | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
# How long, how long must we sing this song? | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
# How long | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
# How long? # | 0:30:55 | 0:30:56 | |
It really did wonders for a lot of bands, even the bands | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
that had maybe slightly peaked - it rejuvenated them, I think. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
If you want to hold your peace, come on, hold it somewhere else. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
Somebody has to do something about this. Come on. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
I don't want to hurt you. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
But famine in Africa wasn't the only issue on people's minds in '85. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:21 | |
There were demonstrations against nuclear weapons | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
and the miners' strike reached a tipping point. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
Billy Bragg's European tour. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
And in his manager's old Volvo estate | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
young anti-pop star Billy Bragg toured the country | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
on a one-man mission. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
Rock 'n' roll is on the road again. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
The miners' strike had been going on since the spring of 1984. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
A lot of people were involved in supporting different pits. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
Billy himself came and did a gig before us | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
and raised us X amount of money. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
And in return I should like to have the pleasure | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
of presenting him with this lamp. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
Early on in the miners' strike I went and did a gig up in the north-east | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
in a mining town and the support act was a guy named Jock Purdon, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:36 | |
who was a guy who might have been in his 70s. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
He was an ex-miner and he sat on stage, | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
didn't have any instruments, sang a cappella with his hand over his ear. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
So I wanted to write a song that expressed clearly | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
that I was part of that tradition now | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
and Between The Wars was that song. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
# I paid the union | 0:32:55 | 0:32:56 | |
# And as times got harder | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
# I looked to the government | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
# To help the working man | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
# But they brought posterity | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
# Down at the armoury | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
# We're arming for peace, me boys | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
# Between the wars. # | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
I was trying to make a point, not just about the miners' strike, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
but also about the possibility of nuclear war because the idea | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
of nuclear annihilation was very real to us at the time. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
I mean, the government were producing pamphlets | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
to tell you to hide under your living-room table | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
and keep your tail between your legs. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
And it's a chart entry at number 40 for The Alarm and Absolute Reality. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
And the thoughts of Chairman Billy | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
surprisingly catapulted him into the charts. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
Down at 38, Mick Jagger, Just Another Night. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
The great thing about Top Of The Pops is while most of it was kind of | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
mainstream light entertainment, there was always room for outsiders. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
A new entry at 33, Billy Bragg and the Between The Wars EP. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
And Top Of The Pops, because it was so simple - it was just me and the | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
guitar anyway - I wanted to play live and this caused no end of problems. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
It took me three listens before I really understood this song. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
This really is an evocative song. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
Live in the studio, would you welcome Billy Bragg and Between The Wars. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
I can remember Steve Wright asking what the song was about | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
so I gave him a whole explanation about nuclear war | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
and the strike and everything. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
# I was a miner | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
# I was a docker | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
# I was a railway man | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
# Between the wars | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
# I raised a family | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
# In time of austerity | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
# With sweat at the foundry | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
# Between the wars. # | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
The thing about the audience for Top Of The Pops | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
was their job was to look like they were having a great time | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
and here I am singing about war and death, strikes and nuclear weapons! | 0:34:53 | 0:34:58 | |
# But they brought prosperity | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
# Down at the armoury | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
# We're arming for peace, me boys | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
# Between the wars. # | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
I remember the director going over to the audience | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
at the tip of the stage where I was performing | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
and giving them directions to kind of dance to the song. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
And then nodding and everything. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
Him walking off and then I walked over to the tip of the stage | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
and said, "Look, I'm really playing this live, I'm not miming. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
"So do what you've got to do but bear in mind I'm actually playing live, | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
"so please don't do anything that distracts me." | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
# Theirs is a land of Hope and Glory | 0:35:36 | 0:35:40 | |
# Mine is the green field | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
# And the factory floor | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
# Theirs are the skies | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
# All dark with bombers. # | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
I felt I got a lot of support from that audience. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
They realised there was something different here. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
It wasn't just run of the mill, some bloke miming a song and it didn't really matter. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
They recognised I was actually performing. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
While Billy's song climbed the charts, | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
the impoverished miners resorted to desperate measures | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
and the strike came to a sad and bitter end. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
And we were told, you'll never stand a major industrial strike, | 0:36:17 | 0:36:22 | |
let alone a coal strike. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
Mr President, it lasted a whole year, | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
but we did just that and won. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
The strike might have been over | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
but elsewhere political passions were still running high, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
with anger at American cruise missiles | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
being stored at an airbase in Berkshire. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
And some of Top Of The Pops' most famous faces | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
found themselves right in the middle of it. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
When we went up to Greenham Common, | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
we went up to meet the ladies and it was a really early start. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
We were going to take some wood and food parcels up to the girls at Greenham Common. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
In the background you could see these bombers, | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
these massive American B-52s I think they were, | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
all covered in mist. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:14 | |
It was very, very eerie. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
We went up to the fence and there was a soldier there | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
and he looked at us and said, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
"I really like the Style Council, I didn't expect to see you guys here. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
"What are you doing supporting these women?" | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
And I just sort of said to him about, you know, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
do you not really listen to the lyrics that the band have actually | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
been singing about and what Paul has written about with these lyrics? | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
And he clearly just didn't understand it. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
As we beg to differ and walk away | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
he just sort of gobs at us through the fence. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
With their next single, the Style Council clearly | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
nailed their political colours to the mast, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
taking aim at Thatcher's government | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
and targets closer to home at Top Of The Pops. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
# You don't have to take this crap | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
# You don't have to sit back and relax | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
# You can actually try changing it... # | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
I remember Paul saying you've got to put a strong message out | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
that there is something better out there | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
and the whole thing about you can't sit back and relax | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
when Frankie Goes To Hollywood were telling everyone to relax. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
Paul was very aware of the other artists around us. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
He had a lot of opinions about the artists around us. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
Weller was sticking to his guns | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
and if he wanted to blast pop aristocracy, | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
as I think they were now calling themselves, he would do it. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
# Walls come tumbling down | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
# Governments crack and systems fall | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
# Cos unity is powerful | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
# Lights go out Walls come tumbling down. # | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
When we were at Top Of The Pops | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
there wasn't that much camaraderie with other bands. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
A bit of meanness in the canteen like whispering and talking and pointing. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
Very, very schoolyard. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
For us at that time it meant we must be making a bit of a mark. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
# Are you going to realise | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
# The class war's real and not mythologised? | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
# And like Jericho | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
# The walls come tumbling down... # | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
I think it was a bit of a call to arms at that time | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
and it firmly stamped what the whole band were thinking. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
We all had different issues and agendas | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
but we were all broadly very, very left-wing. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
It was the record for me that really encapsulated what the band was about. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
# Are you going to be threatened by | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
# The public enemy Number 10? | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
# Those who play the power game | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
# They take the profit you take the blame. # | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
But when it came to the video, the band's decision to get real | 0:39:42 | 0:39:46 | |
and take pop to the comrades in Poland | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
took them on an enlightening journey. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
This is our video for our new single called Walls Come Tumbling Down. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
I knew, kind of, Poland was behind the Iron Curtain | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
and that was when the alarm bells started to ring for me. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
But we went. It rained for four days. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
Mick managed to bump into somebody and they dropped their baby on a tram. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
I drank probably more vodka than I'd ever had in my life. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
We hardly ate. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
It was a very drab place, Warsaw, in 1985. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
The people were very, very downtrodden. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
You could see the evidence of alcoholism. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
It was just a grim place. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:28 | |
We were recording it at this club called The Aquarium | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
and they kind of shipped in some students | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
that were allowed to come and watch us, probably all state approved. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
And there's this one guy in the video who is slightly better dressed than everybody else | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
and he was hanging around and I think he was a spy. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
When the Eurythmics let the cameras into their studios in '85 | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
the power duo were at the top of their game. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
# The sound of your voice on the telephone | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
# Make me feel distressed | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
# Make me all alone | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
# Why do I feel so incomplete? | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
# When you're not here I'm just obsolete | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
# I love you like a ball and chain | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
# Make it all right now | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
# Love you like a ball and chain | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
# Feels too good | 0:41:25 | 0:41:26 | |
# My bed is burning. # | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
Annie and Dave had a smash album with four hit singles. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
And they, alongside other British power duos... | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
# Shout, shout | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
# Let it all out | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
# These are the things I can do without | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
# Come on. # | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
..proved that by working as a tight self-contained unit | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
in control of your sound and image... | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
# You don't know how to ease my pain | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
# You don't know... # | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
..this new breed of duo, including Tears For Fears and Godley and Creme, | 0:41:58 | 0:42:02 | |
could move from indie to mainstream international success | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
without losing their cred. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
# It's the sound of my tears falling | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
# Or is it rain? # | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
Back at Television Centre, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
Top Of The Pops tried to find their own dynamic duos | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
by continuing to pair presenters. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
And in '85 when Kid Jensen, one of the show's favourite faces, left the BBC, | 0:42:26 | 0:42:31 | |
his long-term sidekick John Peel found a new friend. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
Hello. Welcome to a live Top Of The Pops. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
-I'm Aunty Janice. -And I'm Uncle John. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
And we're going to play some songs from the hit parade, aren't we, Janice? | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
They're smashing, like the Style Council and Walls Come Tumbling Down. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
We were mates and both loved music, | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
both from the same neck of the woods | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
and we just hit it off straight away. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
And when David Jensen left Radio 1 to go to Capital | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
Peely would only do Top Of The Pops with me. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
He said to Michael Hallam, "I'm not going to do it unless I can do it with Janice." | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
And we used to have such a laugh. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
Great pair of trousers. I'm really into men's trousers. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
The less said about that the better, if you ask me! | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
We'd be chatting and then we'd think, shall we say that? | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
And he would go, you can't say that because you might get into trouble but I can say that. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
And then I'd go, all right then, I'll do that. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
I'll have you know that I've had him on my bedroom wall. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:30 | |
That seems to indicate a degree of agility | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
I didn't believe you were capable of, Janice, I must say. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:35 | |
We used to have great, great fun. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 | |
Giggling and being told off sometimes for some of the things we said - | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
not by the producers but complaints from the public. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:45 | |
# Wasn't it good? # | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
There was Elaine Paige, Barbara Dickson and Jennifer Rush | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
on the same show and we said, "Coming up tonight on the show..." | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
Paige, Rush, Dickson. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
And Peely said.... | 0:43:58 | 0:44:00 | |
It sounds like a sordid incident in a cheap motel. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:03 | |
And I said... | 0:44:03 | 0:44:04 | |
-I wouldn't know about that. -That's not what I hear, Janice. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:07 | |
These are the more recent number ones from 1985. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
It was a natural banter that we had. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
Let's have a look at the top 40 selling singles in the country | 0:44:13 | 0:44:17 | |
this week, and guess where we start. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
And we did - we just laughed all of the time. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
At 38, Falling Angels Riding, David Essex. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:25 | |
And another chart entry at 37. Loose Ends, Hanging On A String. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:28 | |
But this one's going down to 36. This House, Big Sound Authority. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:32 | |
At 35, Russ Abbot with Joy Division's Atmosphere. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
It was like that even when we went to Radio 1 to work | 0:44:35 | 0:44:39 | |
because I was on before him and all we'd do was giggle. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
I remember him telling me once - and I can't remember whether this | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
was at Top Of The Pops or in Radio 1 - | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
but he said that he would like to actually get rid | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
of everybody at Radio 1 apart from me. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
He said I could stay. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:54 | |
And Bruno Brookes, but he would put him on reception! | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
We are going to play you out, dearly beloved, with Amy Stewart. | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
Can I just say happy birthday to Peely? Goodnight. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
-Bye! -Goodnight. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:04 | |
This year also saw change in the presenter roster, | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
with the arrival of the first black DJ on Top Of The Pops | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
since the 1970s. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:12 | |
Bernie Michael cut his teeth at Radio Caroline, | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
where he acquired the DJ name Dixie Peach. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:20 | |
In '84, he was poached by Radio 1, | 0:45:20 | 0:45:24 | |
but curiously not to play the soul music he'd spun on pirate radio. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:28 | |
Dixie Peach was a lovely human being, Dixie Peach was, | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
and he really loved his soul. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
Absolutely loved soul music, but for some reason he seemed to be | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
doing a rock show. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
When I was at Radio 1, I was one of the few black presenters | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
on the station. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
The fact that I was actually doing a rock show... | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
..I presume, made me more versatile. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:52 | |
In the summer of '85, this slightly wary newcomer was invited | 0:45:53 | 0:45:58 | |
to present Top Of The Pops. | 0:45:58 | 0:45:59 | |
There were very few black faces around at the time. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:03 | |
Anything you did would really stand out, as far as, | 0:46:05 | 0:46:11 | |
"What's he saying? What's he doing?" You know, "What's happening there?" | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
Thank you for being with us tonight on Top Of The Pops. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
Next week, it's presented by Britain's answer to | 0:46:16 | 0:46:18 | |
Crockett and Tubbs - that's Gary Davies and Dixie Peach. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:22 | |
The first show was terrifying. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
I got to the studios and I was amazed by the people at the gates, | 0:46:24 | 0:46:31 | |
as you're going into the building, screaming, and I got recognised, | 0:46:31 | 0:46:35 | |
which was really strange. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:37 | |
I think that was the very first time anyone shouted at me. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:40 | |
"Dixie!" | 0:46:41 | 0:46:42 | |
Went into the studios, everything was incredibly quick. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:49 | |
You were doing this, you were doing that, blah, blah, blah, | 0:46:49 | 0:46:51 | |
you've got so much time. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
"Are you ready? Here we go." | 0:46:53 | 0:46:55 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
Welcome to Britain's best-loved serial, Top Of The Soaps. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:00 | |
You've seen him on Radio 1, for the first ever time on television, | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
a natural life-size effigy of Dixie Peach. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
Thanks, Mike. I've been laying in the sun in anticipation | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
for this big event, but tonight I'm going to kick off with | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
Scritti Politti. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
I'm still stunned the whole time I'm doing it. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:21 | |
Well, a bit of down, down to a bit of up, up. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
I probably had a bit of paper down there and I would have had | 0:47:24 | 0:47:29 | |
what bands are coming up next on it. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:31 | |
Here are the top 40 breakers. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
I bent down before we had actually finished doing the piece, | 0:47:36 | 0:47:40 | |
so that just goes to show that my timing and everything, | 0:47:40 | 0:47:44 | |
I needed to get that together. It took me a little while. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:48 | |
Madonna, great stuff by Madonna there. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:50 | |
Now to the sound at number 30, it's Feargal Sharkey with Loving You. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:54 | |
The links were mainly a natural thing. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
We would get to the studio, we would have no idea who | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
was performing that particular show, | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
we had no idea what we were doing. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
Hello, operator? Can you connect me to Flash Gordon, please? | 0:48:09 | 0:48:14 | |
Oh, hi, it's Flash speaking here. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
Well, you had to rush. So, you'd finish... | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
"And here's the Smiths with How Soon Is Now?" | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
The Smiths, How Soon Is Now? | 0:48:22 | 0:48:23 | |
And as soon as they started, you'd have to leg it across the studio | 0:48:27 | 0:48:31 | |
and climb up these steps and get onto the gantry, | 0:48:31 | 0:48:35 | |
and then somebody would rearrange the crowd. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:38 | |
We were never told what to say, ever. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:41 | |
It was entirely up to you. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:43 | |
"When we do the first link, let's do this." | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
And I thought, "OK, all right." | 0:48:45 | 0:48:47 | |
Hey, how you doing? Welcome to Top Of The Pops, we've got | 0:48:50 | 0:48:52 | |
a knockout show lined up for you, and here is the only man who at | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
Radio 1 has got a better suntan than me. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
It's funny looking back on it now, thinking, "Hmm!" | 0:48:57 | 0:49:01 | |
Maybe not! | 0:49:03 | 0:49:04 | |
It's Radio 1! | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
Me having a tan was always a running gag on Radio 1, | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
so I guess when Dixie and I presented the show | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
for the first time, it was just something we did in all innocence. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:17 | |
I think it was a bit of a thing that I thought could break the ice, | 0:49:17 | 0:49:22 | |
you know, at the time. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:23 | |
Not the way I'd do it now. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:24 | |
If it was hard making it as a black DJ, for Loose Ends, making it | 0:49:27 | 0:49:31 | |
as a black British soul act, after three years, six singles | 0:49:31 | 0:49:36 | |
and no hits, was nigh on impossible. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:38 | |
We were talking of a time, by the way, when nobody believed | 0:49:40 | 0:49:44 | |
that British black acts could have hits. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:46 | |
It wasn't, "Oh, fantastic, somebody is at last making some great | 0:49:47 | 0:49:52 | |
"British black records." | 0:49:52 | 0:49:54 | |
No, the opposite. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:55 | |
"How dare you! This is the American market." | 0:49:55 | 0:49:57 | |
# I'm living the | 0:49:57 | 0:49:59 | |
# Single, single, single | 0:49:59 | 0:50:00 | |
# Life. # | 0:50:03 | 0:50:05 | |
In the face of that prejudice, but inspired by the new electro soul | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
of American hit-makers like Cameo, Loose Ends went in search | 0:50:08 | 0:50:12 | |
of a stateside sound. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:14 | |
So we went to America, and the first thing... I'm a bass player, | 0:50:16 | 0:50:20 | |
and the first thing the guy does is, like, "Well, we're not going to | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
"put no bass on this record. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:24 | |
"We're going to put Moog bass, keyboard bass." | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
And they were fooling around with 808 drum machines. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
MUSIC: Hanging' On A String by Loose Ends | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
We added it and instantly it was like the song just sort of stood up. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:38 | |
Boom, ba-dum, boom, boom, di, di, di, di, ding. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
Boom, ba-dum, boom, boom, di, di, di, di, ding, boom. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
You know, it had this little bell thing, dingy, dingy, ding. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:50 | |
The single went top 20 and Loose Ends finally got | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
the long-awaited summons from TV centre. | 0:50:56 | 0:50:59 | |
Cars were sent at seven o'clock in the morning, | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
it was almost like going to Buckingham Palace! | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
The guy came outside my house and stood up with his hat | 0:51:06 | 0:51:10 | |
in his... On his chest! | 0:51:10 | 0:51:14 | |
So he's standing there, so I looked out the window | 0:51:14 | 0:51:16 | |
and all the kids from the flats are looking, | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
"Who's this geezer standing outside?" | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
So we get to Top Of The Pops, the guy opens the door and we get out. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:25 | |
You are getting very nervous when you're in a BBC dressing room, | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
cos everyone around is so prim and proper. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
Everyone is like that... | 0:51:30 | 0:51:32 | |
You know, the ladies come in with the clipboard | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
and the pencil in the ear and the walkie-talkies. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
CHEERING | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
It's a very strange experience because people are cheering, | 0:51:42 | 0:51:47 | |
and the song's just starting up and it's quiet, it's not loud, | 0:51:47 | 0:51:51 | |
it's very quiet. And these people are going, "Hey!" | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
# I've waited, oh, so long. # | 0:51:55 | 0:51:56 | |
CROWD CHEERS | 0:51:56 | 0:51:58 | |
When I saw it back, I just thought, "Wow, it didn't feel like that." | 0:51:59 | 0:52:03 | |
They made it look so different. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
The people seeing it, they don't get that, | 0:52:06 | 0:52:08 | |
they just get the performance. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:09 | |
# It's all a mystery to me | 0:52:09 | 0:52:12 | |
# Baby, I feel it, too. # | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
Friends were looking at it and going, "Gosh, Carl, can't believe | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
"it was you. That's not you, is it? Is that you?!" | 0:52:21 | 0:52:24 | |
# Maybe I've just changed | 0:52:24 | 0:52:25 | |
# Or could I be wrong for you? | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
# You, you | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
# You got me hangin' on a string now. # | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
Pop music was very white at the time, | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
but what you're starting to see is groups like Loose Ends, | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
which were the start of there being proper British soul music. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:51 | |
# You never told me you were waiting, contemplating. # | 0:52:51 | 0:52:54 | |
Still heavily influenced by America, but it was mixed with that | 0:52:54 | 0:52:57 | |
very English jazz funk feel, as well. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:01 | |
# You never told me you were waiting, contemplating | 0:53:01 | 0:53:05 | |
# With my heart. # | 0:53:05 | 0:53:07 | |
But in spite of their new-found success, Loose Ends | 0:53:09 | 0:53:12 | |
knew there was a danger of them losing their valuable home crowd | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
that had grown them in the first place. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
# I waited like a fool. # | 0:53:19 | 0:53:21 | |
Once you were now making mainstream music, | 0:53:21 | 0:53:25 | |
you could lose your core audience. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
It was almost a prerequisite of success... | 0:53:27 | 0:53:31 | |
..for British soul music. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
# I'm not your plaything. # | 0:53:35 | 0:53:38 | |
We had these people that worked with us that showed us, | 0:53:38 | 0:53:41 | |
"The day you do Top Of The Pops, let's go round to Harleston... | 0:53:41 | 0:53:44 | |
"..like a little reggae club in Harleston, and let's do a PA | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
"for these people, because they don't know you're coming | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
"and you just now was on TV. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:53 | |
"So if you turn up, this is going to be like, "Wow." | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
# You never told me you were waiting, contemplating. # | 0:53:56 | 0:54:02 | |
Leading up to Christmas, competition for the coveted number one slot | 0:54:02 | 0:54:06 | |
was festively fierce and a perfect recap of the year. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:11 | |
Well, hey, how you doing? Welcome to Top Of The Pops. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:13 | |
Do you realise? Only ten days to go to stuff your Christmas turkey, | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
ten days to go to buy all your Christmas records. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:18 | |
Tonight some of the records you've already bought. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:21 | |
Among the contenders, there was a song from a movie. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
# Say you, say me... # | 0:54:24 | 0:54:27 | |
Even if we don't all remember White Knights with Baryshnikov... | 0:54:27 | 0:54:31 | |
..and... | 0:54:32 | 0:54:34 | |
-..Helen Mirren. -# That's the way it should be. # | 0:54:34 | 0:54:37 | |
# Will you ever learn to love? # | 0:54:37 | 0:54:41 | |
The Style Council's Dee C Lee had a soul power ballad in the top three. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:45 | |
# Good love will always come from me. # | 0:54:45 | 0:54:50 | |
In the wake of Live Aid, there was an update of last year's | 0:54:52 | 0:54:54 | |
number one. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:56 | |
# It's Christmas time | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
# There's no need to be afraid. # | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
Wham! re-released the biggest number two of all time. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:06 | |
# Last Christmas I gave you my heart | 0:55:06 | 0:55:10 | |
# But the very next day you gave it away | 0:55:10 | 0:55:14 | |
# You gave it away. # | 0:55:14 | 0:55:15 | |
# We're walking in the air... # | 0:55:15 | 0:55:17 | |
And a young Aled Jones soared into the charts. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
# We're dancing in the midnight sky. # | 0:55:20 | 0:55:25 | |
Through the dry ice, it looked like no-one else had a snowball's | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
chance in hell of getting to number one. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:32 | |
But never underestimate the hit machine who'd been waiting | 0:55:32 | 0:55:34 | |
in the wings for a whole year. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
Right now on Top Of The Pops, a very big hit, | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
the biggest climber on the chart this week, up 28 places | 0:55:40 | 0:55:42 | |
to number ten. Merry Christmas Everyone, here's Shakin' Stevens! | 0:55:42 | 0:55:46 | |
At that particular time of the '80s, I mean, | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
everybody and their dad was putting out Christmas tracks. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
# Snow is falling | 0:55:55 | 0:55:57 | |
# All around me | 0:55:57 | 0:55:58 | |
# Children playing... # | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
In '84, Merry Christmas Everyone was sent down for the writer | 0:56:01 | 0:56:04 | |
Bob Heatlie, and I first heard it and I thought, | 0:56:04 | 0:56:07 | |
"Wow, this is a number-one record." | 0:56:07 | 0:56:09 | |
# Merry Christmas, everyone | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
# Time for parties... # | 0:56:14 | 0:56:15 | |
And we held it back till '85, because there's no way you can | 0:56:15 | 0:56:20 | |
compete with Band Aid, with a charity record. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
# Time for presents and exchanging kisses | 0:56:23 | 0:56:27 | |
# Time for singing... # | 0:56:28 | 0:56:29 | |
The video, I think, was in Sweden, I believe, in Lapland. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:34 | |
# We're gonna have a party tonight | 0:56:34 | 0:56:38 | |
# I'm gonna find that girl underneath the mistletoe... # | 0:56:38 | 0:56:42 | |
I didn't know what to wear. I had these jumpers, I don't know | 0:56:42 | 0:56:45 | |
where they came from, and I thought, "I'll put this on." | 0:56:45 | 0:56:49 | |
# All the old songs love to give... # | 0:56:49 | 0:56:53 | |
I still get a bit of poke about my jumpers. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
# Every day was Christmas | 0:56:56 | 0:56:58 | |
# What a nice way to spend the year... # | 0:56:58 | 0:57:02 | |
Shaky! I mean, a real British institution. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:06 | |
Everybody loved Shaky. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:08 | |
I think people like Shakin' Stevens, they do what they say | 0:57:11 | 0:57:13 | |
on the tin, you know, they're not kind of asking you to listen | 0:57:13 | 0:57:16 | |
to their prog album, they just do what they do and people | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
are very comforted by that. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:20 | |
I don't think there was anybody around like me | 0:57:22 | 0:57:25 | |
at that particular time, you know, dancing, throwing myself around | 0:57:25 | 0:57:28 | |
like I did. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:29 | |
# Underneath the mistletoe, we'll kiss by candlelight. # | 0:57:29 | 0:57:33 | |
I guess I just suited Top Of The Pops. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:35 | |
# Merry Christmas, everyone | 0:57:35 | 0:57:38 | |
# Merry Christmas, everyone. # | 0:57:40 | 0:57:43 | |
He smashed it, didn't he? He went straight in and beat everybody | 0:57:45 | 0:57:47 | |
and Wham! and Band Aid, they couldn't get a look in. | 0:57:47 | 0:57:50 | |
It was Shaky's year, wasn't it? | 0:57:50 | 0:57:52 | |
But hiding in those Christmas charts was the shape of things to come | 0:57:59 | 0:58:03 | |
for '86... | 0:58:03 | 0:58:04 | |
..with the soon-to-be number-one debut of the inspirational, poetic | 0:58:06 | 0:58:10 | |
and very English Pet Shop Boys. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:12 | |
# West End girls. # | 0:58:12 | 0:58:13 | |
MUSIC: Livin' On A Prayer by Bon Jovi | 0:58:13 | 0:58:17 | |
Not that in '86 anybody could stop the imperial tide | 0:58:17 | 0:58:20 | |
of big-haired metal... | 0:58:20 | 0:58:21 | |
..big-haired punks with the biggest recording advance in history... | 0:58:24 | 0:58:28 | |
..and big-haired soap stars. | 0:58:29 | 0:58:30 | |
As the song rightly says... | 0:58:32 | 0:58:33 | |
# Whoa, we're halfway there | 0:58:33 | 0:58:37 | |
# Whoa, livin' on a prayer | 0:58:37 | 0:58:41 | |
# Take my hand, we'll make it, I swear | 0:58:41 | 0:58:45 | |
# Whoa, livin' on a prayer | 0:58:45 | 0:58:48 | |
# Tommy's got his got six-string in hock | 0:58:53 | 0:58:55 | |
# Now he's holding in what he used to make it talk | 0:58:56 | 0:59:00 | |
# So tough | 0:59:00 | 0:59:01 | |
# Ooh, it's tough. # | 0:59:03 | 0:59:05 |