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join Kathie Kay and Christian Fraser now for our new BBC programme 100 | :00:00. | :00:10. | |
It is Monday afternoon in Washington - the first working week | :00:11. | :00:14. | |
Already there are big changes underway. | :00:15. | :00:22. | |
So what will a Trump administration mean for the United States | :00:23. | :00:25. | |
With such global upheaval over the past year, we will be | :00:26. | :00:29. | |
There will be a new way of doing business in Washington. | :00:30. | :00:33. | |
This morning, the President signed an executive order | :00:34. | :00:35. | |
withdrawing the United States from the Trans Pacific | :00:36. | :00:37. | |
A White House press conference is now underway as the war of words | :00:38. | :00:49. | |
between the new administration and the media about the size | :00:50. | :00:52. | |
And when it comes to building the wall, can President Trump | :00:53. | :00:56. | |
We'll hear from both sides of the border. | :00:57. | :00:58. | |
Could President Trump's warming relations with Moscow | :00:59. | :01:03. | |
And when it comes to foreign relations, what does | :01:04. | :01:18. | |
President Trump's foreign policy mean for Europe and its | :01:19. | :01:20. | |
Our new programme dominated by the first few months | :01:21. | :01:27. | |
of Donald Trump's presidency, and what kind of changes | :01:28. | :01:29. | |
There are big things happening in Europe. | :01:30. | :01:32. | |
Upcoming elections, Brexit, the conflict in Syria. | :01:33. | :01:36. | |
Over this next 100 days, we will be looking at all of that and how | :01:37. | :01:40. | |
the America First policy will re-shape relations | :01:41. | :01:42. | |
In this past half hour, Sean Spicer, President's Trump's | :01:43. | :01:48. | |
spokesperson, has been speaking to the White House press corp. | :01:49. | :01:50. | |
Our Washington reporter Anthony Zurcher is with us. | :01:51. | :01:58. | |
I was listening to the beginning of the press conference. It sounded | :01:59. | :02:04. | |
like a remarkably normal press conference? It was. This came off | :02:05. | :02:10. | |
the hills of Saturday where Sean Spicer stood up and be raided the | :02:11. | :02:13. | |
press further coverage of the inauguration. Today, he said he | :02:14. | :02:22. | |
would not be as popular as his predecessor, but then he took | :02:23. | :02:25. | |
questions from the media. The first question he took was on the wall and | :02:26. | :02:31. | |
the promise to begin building the wall. This was a serious priority of | :02:32. | :02:38. | |
his throughout the campaign. He is starting to work with Congress on | :02:39. | :02:42. | |
the appropriations Avenue. He is doing everything he can to commence | :02:43. | :02:49. | |
with that as soon as possible. I couldn't help notice that your key | :02:50. | :02:53. | |
missing at the beginning of the press conference. This still feel | :02:54. | :03:01. | |
quite awkward. Taking on the press the way they did on Saturday is a | :03:02. | :03:05. | |
0-sum game. It might have worked in the campaign but it doesn't work in | :03:06. | :03:11. | |
the White House. It is definitely risky. Donald Trump was ranting | :03:12. | :03:15. | |
about the press in front of a CIA Memorial. To then have Sean Spicer | :03:16. | :03:23. | |
come out and be even more aggressive to the media, leaving without taking | :03:24. | :03:26. | |
questions, he became the story through much of the weekend. In most | :03:27. | :03:32. | |
traditional White House says, the press secretary does not become the | :03:33. | :03:38. | |
story. The president takes the lead. Thank you. We will keep our eye on | :03:39. | :03:40. | |
that press conference. Already President Trump has been | :03:41. | :03:46. | |
busy signing a series of executive orders, | :03:47. | :03:48. | |
certainly more to come through the week, all built on that | :03:49. | :03:49. | |
promise to put America on top. In the past couple of hours, | :03:50. | :03:53. | |
he signed three of those orders - withdrawing the US from | :03:54. | :03:56. | |
the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal, banning American funds | :03:57. | :03:58. | |
for international groups that perform abortions and finally | :03:59. | :04:00. | |
he has ordered a freeze It is just the start | :04:01. | :04:02. | |
of a big agenda. He had promised a slew of executive | :04:03. | :04:24. | |
actions to advance his agenda and reverse those of President Obama. He | :04:25. | :04:30. | |
has rolled back the health insurance law known as Obamacare. Today, he | :04:31. | :04:36. | |
withdrew America from the Trans-Pacific Trade Partnership. He | :04:37. | :04:41. | |
says it is key to securing American jobs and economic security. In tone | :04:42. | :04:45. | |
and substance, Donald Trump promises to be a very different president | :04:46. | :04:51. | |
from his most immediate predecessors. I think he will be | :04:52. | :04:56. | |
quite revolutionary. I expect him to place more emphasis on the growth of | :04:57. | :05:00. | |
the economy, higher wages and opportunities for people. I'm not | :05:01. | :05:08. | |
sure he is going to be trying to seek out compromise. He will try to | :05:09. | :05:12. | |
get the job done that he sent to the American people he would do. I | :05:13. | :05:18. | |
believe he will be looking after the people he says have been left | :05:19. | :05:26. | |
behind. He says his ethos of America first is the scaffolding on which he | :05:27. | :05:30. | |
will build his entire agenda. Illegal immigration, tax reform, the | :05:31. | :05:36. | |
destruction of Isis, they are all in his immediate sites. We have to | :05:37. | :05:43. | |
build a wall, folks. It means making good on his campaign pledge to build | :05:44. | :05:49. | |
a wall along the 1900 and mile border with Mexico. Here he could | :05:50. | :05:54. | |
meet his first big hurdle. Will Congress really pay for it? Mist | :05:55. | :06:00. | |
Trump will need popular support to get these big things done. On | :06:01. | :06:05. | |
Saturday, I went down to see the women's march in Washington, where | :06:06. | :06:10. | |
it was clear just how unpopular he is. These people are scared and | :06:11. | :06:13. | |
angry and determined. Can they stop Donald Trump's agenda? Probably not. | :06:14. | :06:21. | |
But in a game that is American politics, ratings are like gambling | :06:22. | :06:34. | |
chips. The Republican politicians who sat stony faced at the | :06:35. | :06:39. | |
inauguration as mist Trump derided the establishment will give their | :06:40. | :06:42. | |
new president a lot of what he wants, in return for the power he | :06:43. | :06:48. | |
has given them. Of the fact he is not an ideological conservative | :06:49. | :06:51. | |
means the Republican Congress will undoubtedly also run into conflict | :06:52. | :06:56. | |
with their president. On infrastructure spending, the notion | :06:57. | :07:00. | |
we would spend $1 trillion that would be paid for I think will be | :07:01. | :07:05. | |
very difficult for some fiscal conservatives to swallow. For the | :07:06. | :07:06. | |
time being at least I think most Republicans, if not all, are | :07:07. | :07:40. | |
willing to give the president the benefit of the doubt. Once you get | :07:41. | :07:43. | |
out beyond 100 days, when the honeymoon period is over, I think | :07:44. | :07:45. | |
some of those divisions will become a little more clear. Mist Trump | :07:46. | :07:47. | |
intends to govern as he campaigns, in full flight mode. But he has set | :07:48. | :07:51. | |
huge goals for himself and he will need friends and allies to get | :07:52. | :07:52. | |
things done. Let's talk to Jan Brewer Republican | :07:53. | :07:55. | |
Governor of Arizona from 2009 until 2015 and prominent | :07:56. | :07:57. | |
Trump supporter. The Germans and Mexicans have | :07:58. | :08:03. | |
already said that if America is going to withdraw from Trans-Pacific | :08:04. | :08:08. | |
Trade Partnership, they will seek alliances themselves with some of | :08:09. | :08:11. | |
those countries. Is President Trump at risk of alienating just too many | :08:12. | :08:16. | |
allies in his protectionist stance? I don't think so. On the campaign | :08:17. | :08:23. | |
trail, she was clear he thought it was an unfair partnership, dealing | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
with United States and that he was going to resend it. He said he would | :08:29. | :08:32. | |
do it immediately. He didn't like the way it was drawn. It is a huge | :08:33. | :08:40. | |
document. Who knows what is truly in it. Rework a long time on it, but I | :08:41. | :08:46. | |
think we can come back and possibly regroup and continue working, but I | :08:47. | :08:50. | |
think he has promised the people of the United States he will resend it | :08:51. | :08:55. | |
and he has. He did it as promised. That's what the American people | :08:56. | :09:02. | |
wanted. He won overwhelmingly on the electoral real votes in the United | :09:03. | :09:07. | |
States. You know that words have consequences. President Trump's | :09:08. | :09:13. | |
inaugural address and his promise of America first and his refusal in | :09:14. | :09:16. | |
that address to reach out to traditional allies has clearly | :09:17. | :09:22. | |
rankled the Germans. Today, the Mexican president said, we will not | :09:23. | :09:26. | |
submit to United States. The bottom line is, we know that Mexico is our | :09:27. | :09:33. | |
neighbour. I know that Mexico is our neighbour. The coming. We do a lot | :09:34. | :09:40. | |
of commerce back and forth. With regards to the wall and to Nafta, | :09:41. | :09:48. | |
that needed to be renegotiated. We needed to determine things exactly. | :09:49. | :09:55. | |
That all came about in 1990. A lot of things have changed. Donald Trump | :09:56. | :10:00. | |
wants to bring it up to date, make it current, make it work for | :10:01. | :10:04. | |
everybody. I want to ask you about the other executive order Donald | :10:05. | :10:09. | |
Trump signed this morning, banning American federal funds from | :10:10. | :10:12. | |
financing international organisations that support abortion. | :10:13. | :10:20. | |
Are we in for four years of fights over women's reproductive rights | :10:21. | :10:22. | |
issues? Use the protests this weekend. It was a big theme. It was. | :10:23. | :10:33. | |
It was quite stunning to see so many people out there protesting are | :10:34. | :10:35. | |
demonstrating or whatever you want to call it, on the day after the | :10:36. | :10:43. | |
inauguration of the duly elected president. I wish they hadn't done | :10:44. | :10:47. | |
it, but these are conjugated issues and abortion has always been very | :10:48. | :10:54. | |
volatile in the United States because we have, I would say the | :10:55. | :10:57. | |
majority of people, believe they don't support abortion. You know, it | :10:58. | :11:03. | |
will be a conflict and it always has been. We are hopeful we will get it | :11:04. | :11:11. | |
resolved Donald Trump says he would work towards this direction and | :11:12. | :11:18. | |
again delivered on his promise to the people who elected him. Thank | :11:19. | :11:23. | |
you. We will speak to you later on in the programme. I just picked up | :11:24. | :11:30. | |
on one of the first thing she said to you in that interview, about this | :11:31. | :11:35. | |
sense of fairness. She said the trade deals are unfair. That is | :11:36. | :11:39. | |
something that played very highly with supporters during the campaign. | :11:40. | :11:43. | |
I think this is a core belief of President Trump's. The idea that | :11:44. | :11:50. | |
America has been taken for a ride, on trade deals, Nasdaq, China. Also | :11:51. | :11:56. | |
Nato. America's allies traditionally have not paid enough on their | :11:57. | :12:02. | |
defence bills. I think this underlines his worldview. America | :12:03. | :12:04. | |
has done too much since the Second World War to support allies and | :12:05. | :12:10. | |
friends and in return has had a bad deal. He will now change all of | :12:11. | :12:14. | |
that. And yet you look at his approval ratings and the are some of | :12:15. | :12:19. | |
the poorest approval ratings of modern times. He has to get himself | :12:20. | :12:25. | |
on the front foot. Used from the press conference, Sean Spicer was | :12:26. | :12:28. | |
laying out all these big business leaders coming to them. Presumably, | :12:29. | :12:32. | |
behind closed doors, they are really saying this is about job creation. | :12:33. | :12:40. | |
Yes, that speech he gave on Friday was a speech all about jobs. What | :12:41. | :12:43. | |
Governor Brewer did not mention is that trade is not the big issue | :12:44. | :12:47. | |
here. The big issue in American jobs is automation. By some estimates, it | :12:48. | :13:04. | |
is for 21. Computers have lost jobs -- four to one. The Syria crisis | :13:05. | :13:13. | |
will be one of the big foreign policy issues for the administration | :13:14. | :13:18. | |
coming up in these weeks. Right. They will be talking a lot about | :13:19. | :13:22. | |
Syria in the coming weeks. Talks ongoing today in Kazakhstan. | :13:23. | :13:31. | |
The Syria crisis will be one of the big foreign policy issues | :13:32. | :13:33. | |
for the administration these coming weeks. | :13:34. | :13:35. | |
Yes, although normally - when it comes to Syria - | :13:36. | :13:37. | |
the Americans would be equal partners in the discussions. | :13:38. | :13:39. | |
These talks are in the Kazakh capital of Astana, and it's Russia | :13:40. | :13:43. | |
Our Chief International Correspondent Lyse Doucet has been | :13:44. | :13:47. | |
looking at the shifting geopolitics of the Syrian war. | :13:48. | :13:49. | |
This new alliance is reshaping Syria's battlefield. | :13:50. | :13:51. | |
President Erdogan and President Putin still back opposing | :13:52. | :13:53. | |
Last week, they conducted their first joint bombing raid | :13:54. | :13:55. | |
against so-called Islamic State. And last year they work together | :13:56. | :13:57. | |
to end the decisive battle for Aleppo, and then brokered | :13:58. | :14:00. | |
a Syria-wide ceasefire between president Assad's | :14:01. | :14:01. | |
The first game changer, September 2015. | :14:02. | :14:18. | |
Russia entered the war, rescuing the Syrian army | :14:19. | :14:20. | |
from collapse on key front lines, transforming Russia into Syria's | :14:21. | :14:23. | |
most pivotal player in boosting its global stature. | :14:24. | :14:27. | |
Its military assets in Syria now include an expanded naval facility | :14:28. | :14:32. | |
on the Mediterranean, and a new airbase. | :14:33. | :14:36. | |
Last year, Turkey's President Erdogan tilted towards Russia | :14:37. | :14:43. | |
and away from the West, including the US. | :14:44. | :14:47. | |
Blaming it for the July coup and the rise of IS, | :14:48. | :14:55. | |
He still wants President Assad to go, someday, but his main enemy | :14:56. | :14:59. | |
in Syria now is Kurdish fighters, linked to Turkey's PKK, | :15:00. | :15:01. | |
Turkey sent its own forces across the border last year, | :15:02. | :15:07. | |
ostensibly to fight against so-called Islamic State. | :15:08. | :15:13. | |
But mainly to halt the advance of Kurdish fighters carving | :15:14. | :15:18. | |
Russia accepted Turkey's sway along its border, | :15:19. | :15:25. | |
and Turkey pushed rebel groups to pull out of a losing | :15:26. | :15:28. | |
And persuaded some to accept a ceasefire, at least for now. | :15:29. | :15:35. | |
He says his priority is to work with President Putin, | :15:36. | :15:46. | |
to fight IS and other extremists in Syria. | :15:47. | :15:48. | |
It's unclear if he will continue to support rebels | :15:49. | :15:50. | |
There are other players with other agendas. | :15:51. | :15:58. | |
Iran also backs President Assad and is providing an array | :15:59. | :16:01. | |
of militias, including Lebanese Hezbollah fighters. | :16:02. | :16:02. | |
Gulf states arm the opposition, but their real enemy is Iran. | :16:03. | :16:05. | |
Ending this destructive more isn't any easier. | :16:06. | :16:07. | |
And, in the end, it is Syrians who will have the final say. | :16:08. | :16:38. | |
Thank you both for joining us. Let's talk about Syria for a second. The | :16:39. | :16:49. | |
very fact these talks are in a former Soviet republic, rather than | :16:50. | :16:54. | |
Geneva, says a lot about the New World order? It doesn't say that | :16:55. | :17:02. | |
what's new. I'm not sure anything much has changed because of the | :17:03. | :17:07. | |
American election. What it does indicate is how complicated the | :17:08. | :17:13. | |
Syrian situation is going to be for Trump because on the one hand he | :17:14. | :17:17. | |
said he would like to be closer to Russia. In Syria, he faces a | :17:18. | :17:26. | |
coalition of Russia and Iran who are backing a totalitarian dictator. You | :17:27. | :17:31. | |
will have to make some decisions about which side he is on. | :17:32. | :17:43. | |
On the issue of Iran, that will be the sticky subject. President Putin | :17:44. | :17:55. | |
has a close ally in Iran? Yes, and there are close on a number of | :17:56. | :18:03. | |
issues. Trump changes his rhetoric from day to day, so it's hard to | :18:04. | :18:07. | |
know what he actually cares about, but in some parts of the campaign, | :18:08. | :18:13. | |
he indicated he wanted to renegotiate the American nuclear | :18:14. | :18:16. | |
arrangement with Iran, and that would have a knock-on effect on | :18:17. | :18:24. | |
Russia as well. Are a popping the champagne corks in Russia over the | :18:25. | :18:29. | |
inauguration of President Trump? Good evening. The inauguration | :18:30. | :18:34. | |
speech and address of Donald Trump was watched by many Russians, of | :18:35. | :18:40. | |
course. I must say that experts believe that the speech was rather | :18:41. | :18:50. | |
promising. And I would emphasise one thing I find very important. As far | :18:51. | :18:58. | |
as foreign policy was concerned, Donald Trump said that America would | :18:59. | :19:02. | |
seek friendship and goodwill with all countries of the world. And they | :19:03. | :19:07. | |
will do that in understanding that each nation, every nation, has a | :19:08. | :19:13. | |
right to put its national interests first. This, to me who has watched | :19:14. | :19:24. | |
the mainstream of several decades politicised, good state and rogue | :19:25. | :19:28. | |
states, this is promising because it means that Donald Trump at least in | :19:29. | :19:35. | |
his vision, in his thought and his mind, is departing from this very | :19:36. | :19:41. | |
Trotskyite like foundation of the idea of foreign policy which | :19:42. | :19:52. | |
produced the mixture of ideology and Theodore Roosevelt style | :19:53. | :19:56. | |
intervention. That is very promising. And that sticks to | :19:57. | :20:02. | |
chapter one of the United Nations Charter. That is the problem. | :20:03. | :20:06. | |
Treating everybody the same is exactly what is alarming America's | :20:07. | :20:12. | |
allies. The comparison he made between Angela Merkel and Vladimir | :20:13. | :20:15. | |
Putin. I think we need to step back and think about what it was that | :20:16. | :20:20. | |
constituted American power and American influence for so many | :20:21. | :20:26. | |
decades. The answer to that was America's system of alliances. These | :20:27. | :20:30. | |
were alliances not based merely on national interests or on | :20:31. | :20:36. | |
self-interest, but a common sense of security, common and shared values | :20:37. | :20:44. | |
and shared economic interests. This was the way in which America has | :20:45. | :20:47. | |
exercised power up until now. A few minutes ago, previous guests on your | :20:48. | :20:49. | |
programme asked what these alliances brought us, they made America the | :20:50. | :20:56. | |
predominant country and gave them the right to set rules. In many | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
cases, it meant that America and its allies were able to preserve the | :21:02. | :21:06. | |
peace. There has been peace in Europe for many decades. The | :21:07. | :21:12. | |
question now is really a bit different from how you have just | :21:13. | :21:16. | |
characterised it. The question is, if America withdraws and as a | :21:17. | :21:24. | |
Russian colleague has just said, America is not interested in these | :21:25. | :21:28. | |
ideals or democracy, then what happens to it alliances? The | :21:29. | :21:35. | |
question is, will the liberal and economic order be maintained? Will | :21:36. | :21:39. | |
the prosperity that we have known for the last few decades continue? | :21:40. | :21:47. | |
That is now the question. I don't think it's in anyone's interests for | :21:48. | :21:51. | |
international trade to break down or for international institutions to | :21:52. | :21:55. | |
fall apart. I don't think it will be good for anyone. Donald Trump has | :21:56. | :22:01. | |
made the point that warming relations is a good thing. We have | :22:02. | :22:08. | |
had reports today that Russian jets have been flying in tandem with | :22:09. | :22:14. | |
American jets. That has been denied by the American side. I can't think | :22:15. | :22:24. | |
of a time... That is not true. I haven't heard anything like that. | :22:25. | :22:36. | |
Russian jets became an information, but only that. Let's take it in | :22:37. | :22:41. | |
another direction, if that was possible in the fight against | :22:42. | :22:44. | |
so-called Islamic state, that would be a good thing, wouldn't it? I'm | :22:45. | :22:50. | |
sorry, I think you've fallen for a piece of Russian disinformation. | :22:51. | :22:55. | |
It's not true, so why are we talking about it? It has come from the | :22:56. | :23:01. | |
Russian side. Is it a possibility? Is it something the two countries | :23:02. | :23:06. | |
could work together on? Russia is not really fighting Islamic State, | :23:07. | :23:14. | |
it is fighting with Assad against whoever he is fighting. You have to | :23:15. | :23:23. | |
be careful. We are supporting the Syrian Army. It can be qualified as | :23:24. | :23:30. | |
the only serious force that can be put against Isis. That is why we are | :23:31. | :23:41. | |
together. But we would certainly welcome the American I believe it is | :23:42. | :23:47. | |
not quite impossible with Donald Trump's vision because America | :23:48. | :23:58. | |
happens to isolate herself from stereo. To overcome this, you have | :23:59. | :24:04. | |
to participate and then you might influence even Iran. Sorry, but | :24:05. | :24:13. | |
America has been in Syria for many months. We have do bring it to an | :24:14. | :24:19. | |
end there. Thank you both very much. I have just strayed into the world | :24:20. | :24:25. | |
of facts and alternative facts... It does look like that. It is the | :24:26. | :24:32. | |
question of what America's rule is going to be. We have had 70 years | :24:33. | :24:37. | |
since Pearl Harbor of America leading the world. Talking about | :24:38. | :24:43. | |
ideals, talking not necessarily just about America's self-interest. And | :24:44. | :24:48. | |
Donald Trump on Friday ended that system. In that process, there are | :24:49. | :24:53. | |
going to be some winners, perhaps Moscow, and some losers, perhaps | :24:54. | :24:58. | |
Europe. It will be fascinating to watch how this shapes out. | :24:59. | :25:05. | |
Yes, Theresa May will be in Washington. She will have spoken to | :25:06. | :25:09. | |
other European leaders and it will be talking about Nato and European | :25:10. | :25:14. | |
security as well, you would imagine. She has already said she will stand | :25:15. | :25:17. | |
up to Donald Trump when she feels she needs to. | :25:18. | :25:25. | |
There is more on that story on our website and smart-phone app - | :25:26. | :25:28. | |
there's also more from our business team about "Trump-onomics" - | :25:29. | :25:30. | |
and what we know so far about the president's economic plans. | :25:31. | :25:33. | |
You're watching 100 Days from BBC News. | :25:34. | :25:37. | |
Coming up in a few minutes - that wall on the US Mexican border - | :25:38. | :25:40. | |
And a stormy start for press relations between Donald Trump's | :25:41. | :25:45. | |
We'll speak to the Washington Bureau Chief of USA Today. | :25:46. | :26:08. | |
It really has been another day of huge contrast across the UK. Some of | :26:09. | :26:13. | |
us have enjoyed some lovely sunshine. It felt really nice out | :26:14. | :26:22. | |
there. For others, the fog lingered all day. Temperatures barely above | :26:23. | :26:28. | |
freezing. Overnight tonight, fog is the main concern because it is | :26:29. | :26:31. | |
already thickening up in some places. Go online for the latest | :26:32. | :26:41. | |
updates. Some fog over East Anglia and Lincolnshire. Apple tends to | :26:42. | :26:47. | |
clear. Find that, more fog developing. This could be the scene | :26:48. | :26:53. | |
first thing tomorrow morning. Very patchy, this fog. Temperatures below | :26:54. | :26:58. | |
freezing, quite widely. There will be some brighter areas. Over | :26:59. | :27:06. | |
northern England, the fog not so extensive year. Across the border | :27:07. | :27:09. | |
into Scotland and Northern Ireland, a different setup. Milder, breezy | :27:10. | :27:15. | |
and patchy rain. The rain never really amounting to much. It will | :27:16. | :27:23. | |
come and go. The best of the sunshine further south and east. | :27:24. | :27:39. | |
Mildest definitely out West. In the east, despite any sunshine, it will | :27:40. | :27:46. | |
be chilly. It should shift. The breeze begins to pick up. Some for | :27:47. | :27:53. | |
England and Wales. More rain working with intent over the far north-west. | :27:54. | :28:00. | |
Further south and east, despite any brightness, it will be a chilly day. | :28:01. | :28:12. | |
The stronger wind is coming off a still freezing continent. In actual | :28:13. | :28:16. | |
fact, Thursday could be an especially chilly day. Temperatures | :28:17. | :28:25. | |
in some spots will not get much above freezing. A very cold Thursday | :28:26. | :28:27. | |
to come. President Donald Trump has | :28:28. | :30:09. | |
signed an executive order withdrawing the United States | :30:10. | :30:14. | |
from the Trans Pacific After after a row on "alternative | :30:15. | :30:16. | |
facts" and the size of the crowd at the inauguration, | :30:17. | :30:22. | |
we'll speak to a veteran member During the election, | :30:23. | :30:25. | |
Donald Trump said that on his first day as President work would begin | :30:26. | :30:40. | |
"on an impenetrable, physical, So what's going to happen | :30:41. | :30:42. | |
to that bold pledge? In a moment we'll be speaking | :30:43. | :30:50. | |
with a former Arizona Governor and prominent Trump supporter, | :30:51. | :30:52. | |
we'll also hear from a Mexican Senator, but first, | :30:53. | :30:54. | |
a little more detail on the wall Donald Trump's plan to build | :30:55. | :30:57. | |
a wall is a cornerstone During the campaign, | :30:58. | :31:05. | |
he said he wanted it to be "an impenetrable, | :31:06. | :31:08. | |
physical wall" on We need the wall, and | :31:09. | :31:10. | |
the border patrol... He pledged construction | :31:11. | :31:13. | |
would begin on day one. We haven't seen the builders in yet, | :31:14. | :31:22. | |
but some of those close to him say they have an idea of what it | :31:23. | :31:26. | |
will look like. Donald Trump said the wall | :31:27. | :31:28. | |
would be 1,000 miles long, 35 to 40 feet high, and would look | :31:29. | :31:30. | |
as good as a wall is going to look. There's already a barrier, | :31:31. | :31:34. | |
which runs along nearly a third of the border, | :31:35. | :31:42. | |
and that was built after We don't know if President Trump | :31:43. | :31:44. | |
will add to what's already there or knock it down | :31:45. | :31:49. | |
and start again. Donald Trump said the wall | :31:50. | :31:53. | |
would cost around $8 billion. Some engineers believe the price tag | :31:54. | :31:56. | |
would be much higher. And, having promised | :31:57. | :32:00. | |
Mexico would pay for it, Donald Trump recently announced | :32:01. | :32:03. | |
that the US would initially fund it and recoup the costs | :32:04. | :32:05. | |
from Mexico later. Whether its a tax or whether it's | :32:06. | :32:08. | |
a payment, but it will happen. Building a wall was Donald Trump's | :32:09. | :32:15. | |
first campaign promise, and with this pledge, | :32:16. | :32:18. | |
we'll actually be able to see Well within the last hour, | :32:19. | :32:20. | |
Mexico's president said his country is now obliged to take steps | :32:21. | :32:33. | |
to defend its interests, given America's new position | :32:34. | :32:36. | |
on things like the Trans-Pacific Let's talk to Jan Brewer - | :32:37. | :32:38. | |
she was the Governor of Arizona from 2009 until 2015 - | :32:39. | :32:46. | |
and from Mexico City, You have been a supporter of this | :32:47. | :32:58. | |
war but as we have seen in European countries when you build a wall in | :32:59. | :33:02. | |
one place, migrants seem to find a pesky way of coming into another | :33:03. | :33:05. | |
entrance, wouldn't that just happen here? We absolutely need to address | :33:06. | :33:11. | |
the issue of illegal immigration as it is coming into our country and | :33:12. | :33:15. | |
Arizona has been the gateway for all of the illegal immigration for | :33:16. | :33:19. | |
immigrants coming in for work but also for the drug cartels and we are | :33:20. | :33:24. | |
fed up. We had to deal with the president that turned a blind eye to | :33:25. | :33:29. | |
all of that and wouldn't listen and would protect us and we inherited | :33:30. | :33:33. | |
all the drug trafficking, the extortion, the kidnappings, the | :33:34. | :33:40. | |
decimation of our deserts, we gateway so we applaud Donald Trump, | :33:41. | :33:45. | |
President Trumper in his campaign speeches that he said he would | :33:46. | :33:50. | |
secure the border and build the wall. Whether he can build the wall | :33:51. | :33:56. | |
completely, all the way, 1000 miles I don't know but we can secure that | :33:57. | :34:00. | |
border and that is what we need to do. We need the wall and they need | :34:01. | :34:06. | |
to come in legally and we need to to come in legally and we need to | :34:07. | :34:11. | |
know who is leading our country. -- leaving. The other half is that | :34:12. | :34:18. | |
Mexico would pay for the war. The Mexicans have made it clear they | :34:19. | :34:21. | |
have no such intentions and there are moves in the Mexican parliament | :34:22. | :34:26. | |
talking about this and they say they will not pay for the wall so America | :34:27. | :34:29. | |
won't end up paying billions of dollars for this? I still think we | :34:30. | :34:36. | |
have a way to go to determine just exactly how this will | :34:37. | :34:38. | |
how it will be paid for. President how it will be paid for. President | :34:39. | :34:43. | |
Trump said Mexico would pay for it so as we move to this process in the | :34:44. | :34:48. | |
next few days or next few weeks, we may come up with a solution but we | :34:49. | :34:53. | |
certainly aren't going to pay it on our behalf and I'm looking forward | :34:54. | :34:57. | |
to hearing the solution and maybe something can be negotiated between | :34:58. | :34:58. | |
the Mexican government and the the Mexican government and the | :34:59. | :35:02. | |
United States government but we want our border secured. That's it. We | :35:03. | :35:09. | |
are further, we are tired and we're not going to tolerate it. That was | :35:10. | :35:14. | |
one of the biggest reasons why Donald Trump won an election | :35:15. | :35:16. | |
present of the United States. I have present of the United States. I have | :35:17. | :35:19. | |
been on the battlefield from the very beginning. Doing what the | :35:20. | :35:30. | |
federal government was charged to do I had to do that, it didn't do their | :35:31. | :35:34. | |
job, they did not do their job. And it got out of hand. You will know | :35:35. | :35:41. | |
that a significant number of the immigrants in the United States came | :35:42. | :35:46. | |
in with a valid visa through the airport and they simply never left, | :35:47. | :35:51. | |
overstaying their visa. I agree that there is also a multitude of them | :35:52. | :35:57. | |
who have coming across the border and I will agree that they come and | :35:58. | :36:00. | |
they want to come to work some of them, but along with all of the | :36:01. | :36:06. | |
people that are coming in illegally comes the drug cartel and all of the | :36:07. | :36:11. | |
drugs and the extortion and the drop houses and it's costing Arizona a | :36:12. | :36:16. | |
fortune. I have to pay for their education, health care and | :36:17. | :36:22. | |
incarceration. Governor Brewer, one thing we have noticed is that when | :36:23. | :36:23. | |
the Mexican economy is doing well, the Mexican economy is doing well, | :36:24. | :36:28. | |
few people cross the border through Arizona, up until 2014 we saw a | :36:29. | :36:32. | |
decline in the number of Mexicans coming across, when the Mexican | :36:33. | :36:35. | |
economy is doing badly, the number of people trying to get their rises. | :36:36. | :36:41. | |
Isn't there here and knock on potentially of President Trump's | :36:42. | :36:46. | |
policy of closing American factories in Mexico, driving down the Mexican | :36:47. | :36:50. | |
migrants to come across the border migrants to come across the border | :36:51. | :36:54. | |
not discourage them. President Trump has listened to the people of the | :36:55. | :36:58. | |
United States and it is about them. He has been very clear and very | :36:59. | :37:02. | |
strong, it is about the United States of America and we want to | :37:03. | :37:06. | |
work with everybody. It has to be working together with third deals. | :37:07. | :37:11. | |
It has to be handled appropriately. I think that the president believes | :37:12. | :37:16. | |
as well as many other people in the United States that we have been | :37:17. | :37:20. | |
taken advantage of over and over again. And it's destroying our | :37:21. | :37:27. | |
economy. It is absolutely devastated certain areas of our country and we | :37:28. | :37:32. | |
are tired of it. We're not going to tolerate it any more and that is why | :37:33. | :37:37. | |
he won overwhelmingly the electoral votes. People want somebody that | :37:38. | :37:43. | |
will stand up for us for a change. I agree we have to work with our | :37:44. | :37:46. | |
allies, we have to have the commerce and trade going back and forth, but | :37:47. | :37:50. | |
I'm anxiously awaiting just to see exactly what they can come up with. | :37:51. | :38:00. | |
What is the real solution? Thank you so much for joining 100 Days. | :38:01. | :38:04. | |
We are going to finish Christian - with some discussion on the other | :38:05. | :38:07. | |
And that is the barrier between the White House | :38:08. | :38:11. | |
They build up pretty quickly, fair to say the relationship has not | :38:12. | :38:16. | |
gotten off to the best of starts, the row over the weekend has been | :38:17. | :38:19. | |
the relationship goes from here the relationship goes from here | :38:20. | :38:22. | |
because while we have been on air, Sean Spicer of the communications | :38:23. | :38:26. | |
director has answered the question about his integrity and telling the | :38:27. | :38:30. | |
truth, let's have a listen to see if he a more cordial. There are times | :38:31. | :38:35. | |
when we believe something to be true or we get something from an agency | :38:36. | :38:37. | |
or we act in haste because the information available was in | :38:38. | :38:41. | |
complete but our desire to communicate with the American people | :38:42. | :38:44. | |
to make sure you have the complete story at the time so we do it, but | :38:45. | :38:51. | |
again, when you look, we will do our best every time we can. I will come | :38:52. | :38:55. | |
and if we make mistakes I will do and if we make mistakes I will do | :38:56. | :39:00. | |
the best to correct them. As I mentioned the other day, it is a | :39:01. | :39:03. | |
two-way street, there are many mistakes of the media make all the | :39:04. | :39:07. | |
time, they misreport something, they don't report something, they get a | :39:08. | :39:12. | |
factual, that is not to turn around and say you are intentionally lying. | :39:13. | :39:17. | |
I think we'll try to do our best job and do it with a degree of integrity | :39:18. | :39:22. | |
in our respective industries. Shaun Spicer there. Joining us now is | :39:23. | :39:33. | |
Susan Page, a former president of the White House correspondence and | :39:34. | :39:37. | |
is now Paul Simpson chief for USA Today. Put this in some kind of | :39:38. | :39:44. | |
historic perspective for us. You have covered campaigns, have you | :39:45. | :39:46. | |
ever seen anything like this in ever seen anything like this in | :39:47. | :39:49. | |
terms of the relationship with the press? This is my sixth presidents I | :39:50. | :39:53. | |
have seen them come and go and all of them at some point or another | :39:54. | :39:57. | |
have tough relationships with the press. Especially when they get in | :39:58. | :39:59. | |
trouble, you think about the impeachment of President Clinton for | :40:00. | :40:04. | |
instance. Or during the war accusations of the misuse of | :40:05. | :40:08. | |
intelligence information, the bad intelligence that got us into the | :40:09. | :40:11. | |
war in Iraq said there were times when the White House has had bad | :40:12. | :40:14. | |
relations which covers them everyday. What is unusual is that | :40:15. | :40:19. | |
from the start. After a campaign from the start. After a campaign | :40:20. | :40:23. | |
which has been contentious. What is unusual is the way the president has | :40:24. | :40:29. | |
questioned the motives of the press. Basically accusing them of wilfully | :40:30. | :40:32. | |
misrepresenting things, Miss reporting things to make him look | :40:33. | :40:36. | |
bad, that is unusual. What you think the press needs to do now that | :40:37. | :40:41. | |
President Trump is an office about the issue of alternative facts, | :40:42. | :40:47. | |
falsehoods, distortions, lies, whatever you want to name them | :40:48. | :40:51. | |
because it does seem that this is a campaign that has frequently put out | :40:52. | :40:55. | |
information that is provably not true. And what's also is that trust | :40:56. | :41:04. | |
in the mainstream media has declined in this country is faith in other | :41:05. | :41:08. | |
institutions here has declined. We have to get up every day and do the | :41:09. | :41:11. | |
best job we can to be as accurate and factual as possible and one of | :41:12. | :41:14. | |
the main things we do when it comes to holding the government | :41:15. | :41:17. | |
accountable is pointing out when things are factually inaccurate. | :41:18. | :41:20. | |
That is going to be a big part. Isn't there a danger that the press | :41:21. | :41:24. | |
puts itself in a right from the start of being the opposition? Not | :41:25. | :41:30. | |
the opposition and our obligation to correct inaccuracies goes to both | :41:31. | :41:34. | |
sides, it goes to Democrats on the hill and people marching in the | :41:35. | :41:37. | |
women's march on Washington and see people at the inauguration so it is | :41:38. | :41:43. | |
abroad obligation. But it is especially critical I think in | :41:44. | :41:46. | |
covering a president especially a president were all kinds of policies | :41:47. | :41:47. | |
are being set. Thank you. This is going to be an interesting | :41:48. | :41:59. | |
relationship between the press and the White House because there is a | :42:00. | :42:02. | |
risk we get into the position where we spend our whole time talking | :42:03. | :42:08. | |
about things like crowd sizes and the onus will be on the press there | :42:09. | :42:10. | |
to talk about policy as well and what is happening what is not just | :42:11. | :42:15. | |
being said. They'll have to pick their way through the facts and | :42:16. | :42:17. | |
alternative fax. A reminder that you can | :42:18. | :42:18. | |
follow us on social media Join us at the same time tomorrow, | :42:19. | :42:20. | |
when we'll be looking at what the new China America | :42:21. | :42:24. | |
relationship might look like under President Trump. | :42:25. | :42:26. | |
And a busy day tomorrow for the British Prime Minister - | :42:27. | :42:28. | |
the Supreme Court will be handing down its ruling on whether Theresa | :42:29. | :42:31. | |
May needs parliament's assent Just before we go, if you want | :42:32. | :42:33. | |
to join in the discussion tonight, I will be on the BBC's Facebook Live | :42:34. | :42:39. | |
page straight after the programme. | :42:40. | :42:43. |