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Members of Donald Trump's campaign team are accused of frequent

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President Trump calls the claims conspiracy theories and nonsense.

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He attacks the intelligence agencies for leaking information,

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Michael Flynn, General Flynn, is a wonderful man.

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I think he's been treated very, very unfairly by the media.

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As I call it, the fake media, in many cases.

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After the chaotic downfall of the National Security Adviser,

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critics in Congress want to know who is in charge at the White House.

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Also tonight: A new administration, a new relationship and yet another

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attempt to find peace between the Israeli's

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encourage a peace and really a great peace deal, we will be working on it

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very, very diligently. Nationalist,

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anti-immigrant, in power. Why Poland's controversial

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government provokes protest I'm Katty Kay in Washington,

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Christian Fraser's in London. Nonsense is how President Trump

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describes news reports that his campaign team

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were in regular contact with Russian officials

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during the election campaign. He followed up with this tweet:

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"Information is being illegally given to the failing @nytimes

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and @washingtonpost by the intelligence

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community - NSA and FBI? He was on a bit of a twitter

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storm this morning - At a press conference

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in the past couple of hours, Michael Flynn, General Flynn

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is a wonderful man. I think he's been treated very,

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very unfairly by the media. As I call it, the fake

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media, in many cases. I think it's really a sad thing

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that he was treated so badly. I think, in addition

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to that, from intelligence, papers are being leaked,

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things are being leaked. It's criminal action,

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criminal act, and it's been going on for a long

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time, before me. People are trying to cover

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up for a terrible loss that the Democrats had under Hillary

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Clinton. I think it's very, very unfair

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what happened to General Flynn, the way he was treated

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and the documents and papers that were illegally,

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I stress that, illegally leaked. He only took two marker questions in

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that press conference, not from the mainstream media. We will get into

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that in a second. The reports that Mr Trump's campaign

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staff had repeated contact with Russian intelligence officials

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came from the New York Times. Matt Apuzzo is one of

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the journalists working the story. I am not sure if he is there at the

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moment? No, he is not. We will come back to him. He will tell us all

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about the investigation they have been holding. Before we do that, I

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want to talk to you about what he said. The interesting thing about

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what he had to say about Mike Flynn is that it completely differs to

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what we heard yesterday from Sean Spicer, who said he had lost the

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trust of the Vice President and had to go. Today, the President comes

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out and says he is a wonderful guy. Staggering, isn't it? We have Donald

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Trump rewriting the story on Mike Flynn. This administration is

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turning all of us into armchair psychologists. You wonder if Donald

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Trump has the gene that allows them to back down, or if he has been on

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offence always in his business life. The idea of saying my administration

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made a mistake in hiring somebody that lost our trust, that is just

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too difficult for him. As you said, yesterday Sean Spicer said he had

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lost trust and had to go. There is the President saying he is a great

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guy. Which is it? Is he a great guy? In which case, why did he have to

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go? Or is this the President out of step with his spokesperson? Then he

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blamed the fake media, the New York Times included in that. Let's speak

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to Matt, one of the journalists working the story. Thanks for being

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with us this morning. Let's talk about the contacts. The

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one thing you would have to say, the people on the campaign team, if your

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story is right, that were talking to the Russians, the one thing the

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Russians and the campaign team had in common is that they want to

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Donald Trump to win. What were they talking about through those months

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of the campaign? Well, that is exactly right. The very nature of

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the question tells you why American intelligence was so worked up about

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this in the last several months of the campaign. We don't know, as I

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sit here right now, I don't know what they were talking about. There

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is no evidence of collusion right now between the tramp campaign and

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the Russian intelligence agencies. -- Trump campaign. What there is is

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a great deal of concern in the United States that you had a

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candidate for President that was making very favourable comments to

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Russia, people in his inner circle making extensive contacts to senior

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Russian intelligence officials and the hack, all happening at the same

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time. It's not proof of anything, but it explains why the US

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intelligence agencies were so spun up. Context is important. That

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context is important. Eight months ago, the details of this hack were

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coming to light. While the hacking is going on and they were

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investigating at, the campaign team were talking to the Russians? That

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is exactly right. This is all happening... None of these things

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are happening in a vacuum, they are all happening at the same time. You

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can see, timing wise, we are just journalists, we are not intelligence

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agencies. We are setting here and saying, boy, that is awfully

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interesting. If you are the CIA, the NSA, the FBI, you see the attacks

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happening at the same time you are seeing this outreach and contact

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that high levels in Russian intelligence, of course that is

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going to get you concern. That's a big part of why we have been

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interested in this. Just to be clear, do we know who it was in

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tramp's circle that was speaking to Russian intelligence officials? --

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Trump's circle. We have identified the campaign chairman at one point.

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He had done some work with pro-Russian government in the

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Ukraine, as one of the people talking to the intelligence agents.

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He told is definitely there was no intentional contact. He correctly

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said that it is not like these guys are wearing badges that say Russian

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intelligence. They don't have hi, my name is Sergei and I am from the

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FSB. You could see how somebody who was doing business in the Ukraine,

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eastern Russia, might inadvertently make contact with Russian

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intelligence agents. You can see how Russian intelligence agencies might

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see people like that as a valuable target for intelligence gathering on

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a clandestinely at all. They might not even know. But it was the volume

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of the contacts that really gave the federal government here pause. OK, I

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have to say, both the New York Times and Washington Post have done really

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good reporting on all of this. It raises further questions, which is

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why people are talking about more investigations. There are at least

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four different US investigations into Russia's actions going on,

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involving the FBI and various intelligence committees. Yesterday

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we heard from a Republican that things it is a mistake to launch

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another big investigation. I've been speaking to a Democrat who thinks

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the opposite. Congressman Castro, you sit

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on the house intelligence committee. I imagine you're a bit

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busy at the moment? We are, in fact, very busy

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with everything that's going on. There are several investigations

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underway between the House, the Senate and the FBI,

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into the Trump team's various Does America really need

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another one, do you think? Well, you're right, there's

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investigations going on in both chambers to try to get to the bottom

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of what happened in the 2016 More information continues to come

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out, at least in media reports. We've not been briefed as part

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of the intelligence committee on all of this information,

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so I can't necessarily confirm it. But what has come out has

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been very disturbing, particularly the allegations

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about Trump advisers actively talking to Russian intelligence

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agents during the campaign. Most of all, because I have said

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this, we need the answer to one question, whether any Americans

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conspired with the Russians, I said that if, in fact,

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Americans did cooperate, they must be prosecuted to the full

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extent of the law, no matter how OK, so the chairman

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of the intelligence committee you sit on said he is not

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going to investigate Michael Flynn and his phone calls

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to the Russian ambassador. But he is going to investigate

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the leaks from the FBI to journalists that led

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to the breaking of this story. I think the biggest question

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that we have to answer is whether anybody over there,

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whether it was General Flynn or anybody else,

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was working with the Russians. I understand that the FBI

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and the intelligence agencies want to make sure that people aren't

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leaking classified information. But the nation, most of all,

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is concerned with any kind of nefarious relationship

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between the Russians You worked closely with

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the intelligence services. The President, just

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in the press conference with Prime Minister Netanyahu,

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said earlier that these It is fairly unprecedented

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for an administration to have this Why do you think that

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the intelligence services are leaking so much news

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about what's happening I can't say definitively

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who is doing the leaking. But I will say that we've never seen

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a President who has had a rockier, more hostile relationship

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with the intelligence services of the United States

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than we see in Donald Trump. Congressman, who do you think

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is in charge of national security Well, you know, of course they have

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a National Security Adviser who is now the acting

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National Security Adviser. Well, Donald Trump, I think

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the President is always the commander-in-chief

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and ultimately in charge of decisions that are made

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with respect to national security. But there does seem to be

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rather a lot of confusion I think, quite frankly,

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he has appointed people who, unfortunately, based

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on their background and their lack of expertise,

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are in over their heads. The other problem they have is that,

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aside from the Cabinet appointments, of course some of them

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are in the Senate still, aside from that, the ones that don't

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have to go through any kind of confirmation process,

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they've not hired up the staff that they need to fully staff even

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the NSC and the intelligence part I don't know why they are

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dragging their feet on that. Whenever you talk about national

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security, making decisions on tough issues, the President has a final

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say, but it really is a team effort and you need a full

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team out on the field. OK, Congressman Joaquin Castro,

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thank you for joining That need for a team is exactly what

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we were talking about yesterday. The phrase in over their heads, I am

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hearing it a lot in Washington. In the last hour the President has

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held a news conference Fair to say Benjamin Netenyahu never

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really got on with President Obama. In fact you may call recall that

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under President Obama's instructions the United States abstained

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recently, on a UN resolution demanding an end to the building

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of Israeli settlements. The resolution was passed,

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the Israelis were furious. So where does Donald Trump stand

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on the peace process? As far as settlements,

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I'd like to see you hold back We'll work something out,

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I'd like to see a deal being made. Two state, one state,

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and I like the one that I'm very happy with the one

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that both parties like, And I believe that the great

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opportunity for peace comes from a regional approach,

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from involving our new-found Arab And we have been discussing

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that and it is something that is very different,

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hasn't been discussed before, And it's actually a much bigger

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deal, much more important It would take in many,

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many different countries and would cover a very

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large territory, so... I didn't know that you were

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going to mention that, but now that you did,

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I think that it's a terrific thing. Let's talk to Dennis Ross,

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a former US-Middle East Envoy - I was wondering if you could clarify

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something for me, it seems as though the President was rather casually

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checking out decades of American policy on the two-state solution,

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one state, two states, I don't really mind? Yes, it sounds like

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that. I wonder whether it is really a function of not really having

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formed a policy yet. In effect, he said the two-state outcome would be

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easier, but it is really up to the parties. It made a different way of

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saying what is to be the American position, basically, we can accept

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whatever the parties can accept. It is hard to imagine an outcome were

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the Palestinians would accept something less than a state. It's

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hard to imagine an outcome, if you are also talking about bringing in

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the Arab states to play a role, perhaps to provide a cover for the

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Palestinians because, given Palestinian weakness and division,

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their capacity to negotiate right now is pretty difficult, to say the

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least. Maybe they need an Arab cover. It is hard to believe that

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Arab states will provide a cover and say, yes, we can accept an outcome

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where there is no Palestinian state. I think it is the fact that there

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was a kind of posture of saying, whatever the two sides can agree to

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is fine with me, that might be less chucking away the position of the

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United States, which has been a position, actually, since George

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Dubya Bush. It was the notion of a Palestinian state. -- George W Bush.

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As one of the authors of the Clinton Parameters, we were offering up not

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as American policy but as a bridging proposal to overcome differences

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between two sides. It was clear that Benjamin Netanyahu

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feels he has a new-found friend in President Trump. He also praised his

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son-in-law. On the critical issue of Iran, do you think the Israelis

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might be disappointed? The Trump administration has made clear since

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the election that they are not going to rip up the nuclear deal with

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Iran? I don't believe that there will be disappointment on that.

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Prime Minister Netanyahu has never liked the agreement, the

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comprehensive plan of action. He also realises it bides time. What he

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is concerned about is, at the end of 15 years, under the terms of the

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JCPOA, Iran is allowed a large nuclear infrastructure with no

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limitations on size or quality. He worries that is another way of

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legitimising what will be Iran having a nuclear weapon down the

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road. I think what he is probably saying to the President in private

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is, find a way to extend the timeline. I'm not concerned about

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the deal, I'm more concerned about them becoming a nuclear state later

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on. Find a date with that, and we will be imperfect sink. I wonder if

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there is a backdrop for peace? We still have continuing rocket fire

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into Israel, settlement building going on. Then you look at the

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politics of it in Israel, and whether Mr Netanyahu really have the

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power to force through the peace process. His coalition partners are

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Zionist and well to the right, they don't like the idea of a two-state

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solution at all? I think one of the reasons that the Prime Minister was

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reluctant, as he put it, to use the label. He said he didn't want to use

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the label. He described the conditions he laid out in his speech

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in 2009, the spring of 2009, where he accepted a Palestinian state,

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that he had a series of conditions related to it which he thought made

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it possible for Israel to live with it. He repeated those conditions

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without using the label. Why did he not use the label? Because the head

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of the Jewish Home Party in the coalition is dead set against a

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two-state outcome. He was putting enormous pressure on the Prime

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Minister to come out and drop the commitment to a two-state outcome.

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There is no doubt there is pressure from within the Israeli government

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not to accept the two state outcome. Think through what you heard from

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President Trump. He made it clear he wants to pursue a deal, he made it

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clear he wants to pursue peace. He made it clear that is important to

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him. It doesn't matter what the label is, the end of the day. I

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don't see any Palestinian ever accepting anything less than a

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state, and I don't see the Arab states, even if you get that

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approach, accepting an outcome that does not produce a Palestinian

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state. Regardless of the terminology right now, if you are going to be

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serious about pursuing peace, you are going to come back to the

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outcome that yields what would be two states for two peoples. We might

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not be able to produce that any time soon, particularly given the

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weakness on the Palestinian side and the fact that Hamas controls Gaza,

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given what is going on in Israel, it is all daunting. The real challenge

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if you are engaged in peacemaking is not just bringing Arab states into

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the process, the real challenge is how do you believe to restore a

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sense of possibility when there is disbelief more than possibility?

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Fascinating. Thank you very much for being with us. He is a transactional

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President, we wonder whether his patience will last on the peace

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process. Others have tried and failed.

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Well as the Israeli Prime Minister and the US President met today

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it was overshadowed by the turmoil which is rattling the White

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Yes, events in recent days have really put them

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on the defensive and this story continues to unfold.

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Good morning, America. White housing crisis. Aids to President Trump

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repeated contact with Russian intelligence... America woke up to

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speculation that the White House is already in turmoil. A day after the

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National Security Adviser was forced to resign because he discussed US

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sanctions with Russia before Mr Trump took office, and then lied

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about it, top Republicans have joined calls for a wide

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investigation into Michael Flynn's links with Moscow. It is all causing

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confusion and chaos in the administration. Obviously, there is

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an administration that is in significant disarray as far as

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national security is concerned. As is so often the case, it is now a

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question of who knew what and when. On December 29, 2016, President

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Obama announces sanctions, expelling 35 Russian diplomats over Moscow's

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interference in the US presidential election. On the same day, Michael

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Flynn holds a series of phone calls with the Russian ambassador. On the

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13th of January, Mr Trump's spokesman, Sean Spicer, said

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sanctions were never discussed on the calls. Two days later, Vice

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President-Elect Mike Pence goes on national television and confirms

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that account. What I can confirm, having spoken to him, is that those

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conversations that happened to occur around the time that the United

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States took action to expel diplomats had nothing whatsoever to

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do with those sanctions. On the 26th of January, the acting Attorney

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General Sally Yates warns the White House it might have been misled by

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General Flynn's account of the calls and the National Security Adviser is

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now open to blackmail by Russia. It is a full two weeks later, on the

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9th of February, that the Vice President is made aware of those

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warnings. On the same day that the Washington Post reports that Mike

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Flynn had discussed sanctions with the Russian ambassador. Today's news

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reports of more extensive communications between members of

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Trump's senior team and Russia have clearly angered the President. If it

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turns out any deals were made, this would be not only unprecedented, it

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would be shocking and would be something that you would have to

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take active steps to ensure never happens again. It would leave a

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permanent stain on this administration. There are two big

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stories here, Russia and the West Wing dysfunction. It's simply not

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clear who is running national security right now. General Flynn is

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out. Senior policy adviser Kellyanne Conway is losing respect among the

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press. That leaves Stephen Bannon, senior policy adviser Stephen Mellor

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and son-in-law Jarod Krishna as the people closest to the President. The

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people shaping this presidency. I am fascinated by the split you are

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outlining. You have the three people there, Steve Baron, Steve Miller,

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then from the other side you have the Vice President, Mike Pence.

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There is a question of how the Vice President comes out of this.

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According to the adies for the President, they talk every day, and

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yet for two weeks they don't bring up the issue of Mike Flynn? We are a

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month into the administration, we have had a major breach between the

:24:43.:24:46.

President and his Vice President. I'm not saying this relationship is

:24:47.:24:53.

irreparable, but we need a marriage guidance counsellor fast. There

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cannot be a perception that you have the President and his advisers, and

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the Vice President left in the dark, particularly because conservatives

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in this country like Mike Pence. That is important to the President

:25:08.:25:11.

as well. He is a real conservative, they can trust him on economic and

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social issues where they might feel that Donald Trump is wobbly, they

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know Mike Pence is the real deal and they don't want and squeezed out of

:25:20.:25:31.

a perception he has clout. I just want to share this quote from Tony

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Thomas. He is not the kind of guy that would

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come out with a quote like that for effect. He is a four star general.

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What did we hear from the congressmen earlier? Effectively,

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this is not a competent administration and that is a concern

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for national security. You're watching 100

:25:58.:25:59.

Days from BBC News. Temperatures continued the upward

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creep and felt pleasant if you had some sunshine. This was Cornwall,

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but they were not so lucky in Staffordshire. The weather system

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brought wet weather into the Midlands. It is stretching all the

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way to western parts of Scotland as well. Some heavy bursts, clearing

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from eastern parts of England. Showers in western parts of England

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and Wales. Midnight, a lot of dry weather to come, although there will

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be rain feeding into Scotland. In Argyll, strong and gale force wind

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with that. Lighter wind across southern parts, so there could be

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some fog patches, slow to clear on Thursday morning. Low pressure is

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close to Scotland on Thursday. It will be a windy start to the day.

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Continue across northern and western parts, we will see outbreaks of

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rain. That will ease along with the wind. You have some shelter in

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western Scotland. A lot of dry weather in Northern Ireland to begin

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with, and across the bulk of England and Wales, the odd shower dotted

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around. Lighter wind across southern parts, feeling cold, especially in

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the countryside. Some fog patches around as well. Where you are

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starting the day that way, with mist and fog, it could be slow to clear.

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Once it is gone, variable cloud and sunny spells. England and Wales

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mainly dry, bar the odd shower. Turning weather later in the day in

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Northern Ireland and the rain and wind easing in Scotland. As for the

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temperatures, many places getting into double figures, get a bit of

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afternoon sunshine and it will feel pleasant. Light wind for some of us

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on Thursday night coming to Friday morning. Further fog patches

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forming. Not widespread, but could slow you down before they clear. It

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tends to brighten up on Friday before another weather system comes

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into western parts, bringing outbreaks of rain. It is mild. The

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average temperature is about eight or 9 degrees. Look at that, easily

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beating that over the next few days, and at the end of the weekend, into

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the start of next week, it could be very mild in a few spots. Staying

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mild this weekend. A bit of sunshine? If you are lucky. The risk

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of catching some rain. More especially across northern parts of

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the UK. Goodbye. Members of Donald Trump's campaign

:28:25.:30:05.

team are accused of frequent President Trump calls

:30:06.:30:10.

the claims "conspiracy But Democrat Congressman

:30:11.:30:16.

Joaquin Castro told us he wants We need the answer to one question -

:30:17.:30:24.

whether any Americans conspired with the Russians who hacked

:30:25.:30:28.

into our 2016 elections. And I've said that if,

:30:29.:30:33.

in fact, Americans did cooperate, that they must be

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prosecuted to the full extent of the law, no matter how high

:30:37.:30:39.

up the trail it goes. And nationalist,

:30:40.:30:43.

anti-immigrant, in power - why Poland's controversial

:30:44.:30:48.

government provokes protest It's election year in Europe,

:30:49.:30:50.

and right wing, populist parties are challenging the political

:30:51.:31:04.

establishment in Germany, They hope to emulate the success

:31:05.:31:07.

of Poland's anti-immigrant nationalist Law and Justice Party,

:31:08.:31:12.

which swept to victory in 2015. Their first year in power has been

:31:13.:31:15.

marred by controversy. But, as Jenny Hill reports,

:31:16.:31:19.

the party still enjoys Familiar routines, but Magdalena's

:31:20.:31:35.

country is changing. She is a journalist. She says it is getting

:31:36.:31:39.

harder to tell the truth about the Polish government. I remember the

:31:40.:31:49.

communism. And I always wish that it never come back. Every step which is

:31:50.:32:01.

made to destroy our law, to destroy our constitutional courts, to

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destroy free media, I can't accepted. Turbulent times for

:32:09.:32:12.

Poland. The right-wing law and Justice party, or Peace, has ruled

:32:13.:32:18.

for more than a year. It initially limited media access to Parliament.

:32:19.:32:21.

It has increased its power over public broadcasters and appointed

:32:22.:32:27.

its own judges to the Constitutional Court, defying EU condemnation. But

:32:28.:32:33.

after thousands of Polish women took to the streets, it backed down over

:32:34.:32:43.

plans to all but outlaw abortion. TRANSLATION: What is happening now

:32:44.:32:46.

is no different to what was happening five, ten, 20 years ago.

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It is not worse than other parties in the past. Nothing has changed.

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The only difference is that now, only now when Peace came to power,

:32:56.:32:58.

international media started to pay attention to what is happening in

:32:59.:33:03.

Poland. This is Catholic country. The Peace party is close to the

:33:04.:33:08.

church, champions traditional family values, speaks a nationalist

:33:09.:33:16.

language. And away from the capital city, they like what they hear. For

:33:17.:33:24.

me, the value of family and religion is important. I think new

:33:25.:33:34.

governments support young people. The situation with immigrants, I

:33:35.:33:38.

think this is a really big problem, not only for Poland but for Germany

:33:39.:33:46.

and France. Division, populism, nationalism. For Poland, for its

:33:47.:33:52.

neighbours, the political landscape is shifting. The law and Justice

:33:53.:33:56.

party spoke to voters who felt left behind by the liberal political

:33:57.:34:02.

mainstream. And that's why Europe's established political parties are

:34:03.:34:05.

watching closely and with a degree of alarm. Because law and justice is

:34:06.:34:10.

well over a year into its government. And despite the

:34:11.:34:15.

protests, despite the condemnation of its methods, it retains

:34:16.:34:18.

widespread popular support. Jenny Hill reporting.

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I just want to get some news coming in from the Senate. We talked about

:34:26.:34:29.

chaos in the administration. It looks like another setback for

:34:30.:34:35.

Donald Trump. It looks like his Labour Secretary Paik is in trouble.

:34:36.:34:40.

Republicans have sent a letter to the White House saying they do not

:34:41.:34:46.

have the votes to get him confirmed. He has too many problems with

:34:47.:34:50.

Republicans, it seems, in the committee. This could be another

:34:51.:34:55.

problem for him. He is a fast food millionaire who is opposed to the

:34:56.:34:58.

minimum wage. He has raised questions about overtime payments.

:34:59.:35:04.

Not popular with Labour organisations. It looks like he may

:35:05.:35:08.

actually be out before he is in. And all that on the back of the

:35:09.:35:15.

Betsy DeVos saiga, where the vice president had to pass her

:35:16.:35:20.

appointment with the casting vote. Is the Russian connection nonsense,

:35:21.:35:21.

a fake news media conspiracy theory, as the President calls it -

:35:22.:35:25.

or is there something more to it? Last night, White House

:35:26.:35:29.

communications director Sean Spicer was telling us they had been pretty

:35:30.:35:31.

tough on Russia. Well, not during the campaign -

:35:32.:35:33.

here's a flavour. Wouldn't it be nice if we actually

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did get along with Russia? Wouldn't it be nice? Rusher, if

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you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are

:35:46.:35:48.

missing. I'm going to take a look at is, but

:35:49.:35:53.

the people of Crimea, from what I hear, would rather be with Russia. I

:35:54.:35:59.

don't know Putin. He said nice things about me. If we got along

:36:00.:36:04.

well, that would be good. That is because he would rather have a

:36:05.:36:09.

puppet as president. You at the puppet. I do respect Putin. I

:36:10.:36:13.

respect a lot of people. That doesn't mean I will get along with

:36:14.:36:20.

them. Putin is a killer? You think our country is so innocent?

:36:21.:36:23.

We're joined from Moscow by Sergei Markov, a political

:36:24.:36:25.

analyst and former member of the Russian parliament.

:36:26.:36:30.

I think what a lot of people find difficult to understand in the

:36:31.:36:36.

United States is that Donald Trump is so tough on his own intelligence

:36:37.:36:40.

agencies, he calls them Nazis, and yet he put such a premium on his

:36:41.:36:49.

loyalty to President Putin? I think loyalty about President

:36:50.:36:54.

Putin, it's natural for me, for example, as part of his team, and

:36:55.:36:59.

for the Russian intelligence service. But not for Donald Trump.

:37:00.:37:13.

We believe that a new administration will start a war against Russia,

:37:14.:37:18.

which -- will stop a war against Russia started by the Obama

:37:19.:37:21.

Administration. We hope that Washington will start to fight

:37:22.:37:26.

against al-Nusra and stop terrorists. And we're hoping that

:37:27.:37:36.

Donald Trump will stop the supporting of neo-Nazis in Kiev,

:37:37.:37:42.

where a terrorist junta created Civil War. We are not sure if this

:37:43.:37:51.

will happen or not. You want to build this new relationship with the

:37:52.:37:55.

White House. Yet in the last few days we get lots of news of Russian

:37:56.:38:01.

jets flying over American warships in the Black Sea. We get reports

:38:02.:38:05.

that Russia is moving cruise missiles in Russia. And we get a

:38:06.:38:09.

report there is a spy ship off the coast of Delaware. That doesn't

:38:10.:38:13.

sound like you are trying to build bridges with Washington? We still

:38:14.:38:21.

hope that we will be more able to build bridges and good relationships

:38:22.:38:24.

with the new administration. We think Mike Flynn is a victim. We

:38:25.:38:56.

very much are afraid that the CIA, military intelligence, have some

:38:57.:38:59.

cooperation with terrorists in Syria and in the Ukraine. But

:39:00.:39:06.

nevertheless, Donald Trump's that Macdonald Trump -- for Donald Trump,

:39:07.:39:18.

the priority would be domestic politics, but not foreign policy. We

:39:19.:39:26.

still didn't see the foreign policy of Donald Trump at all. We see only

:39:27.:39:35.

domestic politics. Anti-immigration, some project to build a wall with

:39:36.:39:41.

Mexico. It is mostly domestic politics. We know that Donald Trump

:39:42.:39:51.

will follow its promises to the people of America, to pay tribute to

:39:52.:39:57.

the domestic policy but not the foreign policy. Forgive me for

:39:58.:40:03.

jumping in. I want to ask you about the mood in the Kremlin today. Do

:40:04.:40:07.

you think there is some concern among Russian officials that you

:40:08.:40:12.

speak to, close to President Putin, that the White House may have to

:40:13.:40:17.

change course on Russia? That they may actually be losing some of their

:40:18.:40:20.

close relationship with Donald Trump because of what is happening here in

:40:21.:40:28.

Washington? I think in Moscow people still look with small positive hopes

:40:29.:40:42.

of the new administration. In the Kremlin there are good specialists

:40:43.:40:46.

on the United States. The specialists are predicting that

:40:47.:40:57.

Donald Trump will not -- will improve the relationship with Russia

:40:58.:41:00.

and change something in domestic politics. We didn't have the

:41:01.:41:04.

solution because we have no illusion. But still have some

:41:05.:41:10.

positive feelings about Donald Trump. We look very positively on

:41:11.:41:18.

you, Donald Trump. We will pass that message the White House if we have a

:41:19.:41:26.

chance! Thank you. This whole relationship is so interesting. We

:41:27.:41:30.

have had all along questions about why Donald Trump is so reluctant,

:41:31.:41:37.

given all the opportunities, to criticise Vladimir Putin. He has

:41:38.:41:39.

never done so. Now these questions about contact. The Russians and the

:41:40.:41:46.

Trump campaign, all they had in common during the campaign, was a

:41:47.:41:51.

desire to get Donald Trump elected. And I have just given Sergey Bubka

:41:52.:41:56.

instances where President would be talking about Russian activity and

:41:57.:41:58.

we have had nothing from the White House. If there are questions, we

:41:59.:42:05.

have just seen a press conference in the last hour where he only took two

:42:06.:42:11.

questions. One was from a Christian broadcast network and the other was

:42:12.:42:16.

from a newspaper called Townhall. Not one of the mainstream media

:42:17.:42:21.

outlets. Is he ducking the issue? Yes, I think he is. There have been

:42:22.:42:26.

three press conferences in a row in which the president has only called

:42:27.:42:32.

on Conservative news outlets. Previous press conferences with

:42:33.:42:37.

heads of state, the president would call on the newswires, independent,

:42:38.:42:41.

nonpolitical news organisations like Reuters and associated press, and

:42:42.:42:44.

they would be the ones who got the question. This is a definite

:42:45.:42:48.

departure. It means the American public is not getting the answers to

:42:49.:42:50.

the kind of tough questions that they would like to ask. That is it.

:42:51.:42:55.

Thank you for joining Christian and I. We will see you back you're

:42:56.:42:57.

tomorrow.

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