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As Britain prepares to leave the European Union,


the First Minister of Scotland calls for a new referendum


So could Brexit lead to the break-up of the United Kingdom?


Nicola Sturgeon says a second referendum should be held


between autumn 2018 and spring 2019 once the terms of the UK's exit


I believe that it would be wrong for Scotland to be taken down a path


that it has no control over, regardless of the consequences


for our economy, for our society, for our place in the world,


for our very sense of who we are as a country.


But it's up to the British Government and the Parliament


in Westminster to decide if and when that vote takes place.


Instead of playing politics with the future of our country,


the Scottish Government should focus on delivering good government


and public services for the people of Scotland.


Meanwhile, the British Parliament will vote this evening


whether to give the Prime Minister the power to start


Congress's House Intelligence Committee demands from the President


that his phones were wiretapped just before the election.


After Turkey's ministers are blocked from attending


some European rallies, President Erdogan threatens


to take the Netherlands to the European Court and accuses


Blizzards in America's North East forces German Chancellor Merkel


to reschedule her trip to the White House.


I'm Katty Kay in Washington, Christian Fraser is in London.


It is 53 days since Donald Trump took office, it's 233 days


since Britain voted to leave the European Union.


So much has happened since then and yet nothing


at all has happened - at least in terms of the formal


Tonight, the UK Parliament takes its final vote


on the Brexit legislation, which should clear the way


for the Prime Minister to begin the process.


It has just rejected both of the amendments.


And on the eve of that historic vote, word from the First Minister


of Scotland today that she wants another independence referendum.


I can confirm today that, next week, I will seek the authority


of the Scottish Parliament to agree with the UK Government the details


of a section 30 order, the procedure that will enable


the Scottish Parliament to legislate for an independence referendum.


The UK Government was clear, in 2014, that an independence


referendum should, in their words, be made in Scotland


That is a principle that should be respected today.


The detailed arrangements for a referendum,


including its timing, must be for the Scottish


However, in my view, it is important that Scotland


is able to exercise the right to choose our own future


at a time when the options are clearer than they are now,


but before it is too late to decide our own path.


Well, the British Prime Minister has delivered a forthright response,


accusing Nicola Sturgeon of tunnel vision.


As we negotiate to leave the European Union,


I want to negotiate an agreement that is going to work for the whole


of the United Kingdom that includes the Scottish people.


That's why we've been working closely with the devolved


administrations, we've been listening to their proposals


and recognising the many areas of common ground that we have,


such as protecting workers' rights and our security


The tunnel vision that the SNP has shown today is deeply regrettable.


It sets Scotland on a course for more uncertainty and division,


creating huge uncertainty, and this at a time when the evidence


is that the Scottish people, the majority of the Scottish people,


do not want a second independence referendum.


So, instead of playing politics with the future of our country,


the Scottish Government should focus on delivering good government


and public services for the people of Scotland.


Our Scotland editor, Sarah Smith, is in Edinburgh for us now.


The First Minister is a very smart politician. I am sure in private she


has guessed that the Prime Minister will not give an independence


referendum in the midst of these complex Brexit negotiations so if


she has worked that out what is her political calculation here? She is


asking for that referendum to be before the UK leads the EU. She says


there is a window when Scotland should be allowed another vote on


whether or not it should become an independent country. The UK


Government seems unlikely to allow that, they do not want to fight a


referendum campaign at the same time as negotiating Brexit, so they will


try to insist this be held after March 20 19. There is bound to be a


tussle over the next few weeks and months that might suit Nicola


Sturgeon well because a lot of her argument is she has been forced into


the position of holding this referendum because the UK Government


are not listening to Scotland and the wishes and she could use it to


strengthen the argument, if she changes the date. Could she force


Theresa May to delay her timetable in triggering Article 50? There are


reports that that might happen. We were never absolutely sure when


Theresa May was due to trigger Article 50. There was speculation


that might happen tomorrow and that is why Nicola Sturgeon made that


announcement today. Of course, Theresa May now has to die just this


fairly momentous news from Edinburgh which would have taken this by her


surprise. -- has the digest. She will not want to look as though her


timetable has been knocked off course because she says her full


focus is on making Brexit work and she does not want to look like she


has been derailed. Stephen Gethins is the Europe


spokesperson for the If you really want the big UK to get


the best possible Brexit deal, and let us remember that this is your


biggest single market, surely you would hold off until this very


complex negotiation has been completed? The Scottish Government


has already proposed the best deal, to remain part of the European


Union, that is the best deal we have got. But the next best deal would


have been to obtain membership of the single market and that is why


the Scottish Government proposed a compromise before Christmas time to


the UK Government. We said, we will put to one side membership of the


European Union, even though we voted in favour of remaining, and we'd


retain membership of the single market. That is the least worst


option for jobs in the economy. And the least worst option for the UK as


a whole. We try to help out the UK Government compromise but they do


not appear willing to take a compromise. The European Union has


signalled he would have to begin the process as a new accession country,


meaning he would have to come in line with the new economic terms,


meaning a deficit of 3%. At the moment, your deficit is 8-10% and


the economic facts have not changed since 2014 so how will you sell that


to the Scottish public? The UK is heavily in debt and it is due to get


worse, given the disastrous economic decision to take us out of the


European Union. What is more, Scotland as a country has met the


rules for being a member of the European Union, it would be a net


contributor because we are one of the richer members, and is already a


member of the European Union. If you saw the European Parliament's chief


negotiator, there is an openness and willingness for Scotland to continue


its membership of the EU. Just to be absolutely clear, do you have


private assurances from the European Union that they would accept


Scotland as a new country? This is still an internal member state issue


for the United Kingdom but what has been interesting is not so much the


private reassurances but the public reassurances. Jean-Claude Juncker


said Scotland needs to be listened to. We have heard the same words


coming out of Burling, Dublin and elsewhere. That has been a shift


since the last independence referendum. We would have this


referendum in totally different circumstances than the previous one.


It seems like you're just playing with a very weak hand. Since 2014,


when you did not manage to get the referendum you wanted, the price of


oil has collapsed, and the still is not total unanimity amongst EU


members. There are an fact fairly big objections from other members as


having Scotland as an independent country. Most recently, we have had


the Spanish and the People's party in Spain saying you cannot compare


Scotland with Catalonia, of course Scotland is a totally different


case. I am not sure that argument stacks up any more. Also, from an


economic point of view, the most damaging thing that can happen the


Scottish economy is leaving the European Union and the single


market. The Institute of the University of Strathclyde have


estimated this could cost Scotland 80,000 jobs in Scotland alone. This


is a shock to our economy and devastation to jobs and the economy


that we can ill afford. So the First Minister's plea today is to save


jobs and the economy and retain our membership of the European Union and


retain a secure a relationship with the rest of Europe. Did you hear


firm cast-iron guarantees and reassurances the, because I did not?


Know, but they did make the point that they would not just be able to


go into the European Union as an existing member, they would have to


go through the full process, and the economic facts are still as they


were in 2014, particularly regarding the currency and deficit.


Potentially even worse for the price of oil. Let's look at what has


changed and what has not changed. What has changed is the argument


because the SNP have always embraced this idea that Scots will only vote


for independence in Scotland is thriving. They are saying now is


not, can Scotland afford to be independent but can Scotland afford


not to be independent? Mr Gethin is said we need to be in the single


market which is a strange argument when you consider that the UK


market, the biggest market they have this four times the size of the


European market. Would it mean the people in Scotland would vote for


independence? That is not the case either because we know that trump


nationalistic and Sturgeon nationalistic economics are potent.


I dare the other plenty of affluent middle-class people in Scotland who


voted Remain in the EU referendum and are probably thinking, this


time, I will not put the same store in projects via as it did last time.


Which is why these conversations they are having with European


leaders are so critical and why we need to get to the bottom of why


they have been given guarantees. That would presumably influenced the


way Scots might vote. You are right. One thing we learnt in 2016 is


people vote with their hearts as much as their heads. Absolutely, and


timing is crucial here. It is crucial for the Prime Minister


because she said today she does not want to fight on two France. We will


probably not see a referendum until after 2019. She will be hoping the


UK economy is sufficiently strong that it would put people off in


Scotland from going down this route. But the timing is also crucial for


Nicola Sturgeon as well. She wants to take advantage of an economic


downturn in the UK, that is probably her best hope, so the timing for


both leaders critical at this moment. I think what will be so


fascinating, over the next two years, not just the deal that the UK


gets and that Theresa May manages to negotiate with Brussels, but also


the impact that it has on the United Kingdom. What is surprising is the


amount people are watching from the side of the Atlantic. There are a


lot of supporters for Brexit from the trump campaign. But I wonder


whether the White House would think of Scottish independence as a result


of Brexit. Just finished on that point, today, you got the Sinn Fein


party in Northern saying they need a vote a united Ireland, Plaid Cymru


talked about a similar discussion in Wales, and the SNP, the union


certainly looks fairly fragile. We will put that argument to the one of


the cheap Brexit architects later. We have had two votes on the


amendments. There has been little sign of the Conservative rebellion


in all of this. These were the changes at the House of Lords,


wanting to guarantee the rights of EU citizens living in the United


Kingdom, the second one was about securing a final vote, a vote on the


deal that Theresa May gets at the end of the process of negotiation,


but both of those changes have been overturned by the House of Commons.


It will now go back to the upper chamber again, to the House of


Lords, where they will consider it one more time. Indications there art


that Labour opposition peers have not seen any sign that the


government will give way on this. They do not see any point in


pursuing this any further. It seems that this Brexit bill will pass its


final Parliamentary hurdle tonight and that leaves Theresa May very


much able to trigger Article 50 when she chooses to. I am told that it


will not be this week, it will happen towards the end of March.


The House Intelligence Committee has given the Trump administration


until the end of today to provide evidence that phones at Trump Tower


in New York were wiretapped just before the election.


White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer was asked a question


about this at a briefing a short time ago.


Here's a little of what he had to say.


He doesn't really think that President Obama went up


I think there's no question that the Obama administration,


that there were actions about surveillance and other


activities that occurred in the 2016 election.


That is a widely reported activity that occurred back then.


The president used the word "wiretap" the mean broadly


surveillance and other activities during that.


It is interesting how many news outlets reported that this activity


was taking place during the 2016 election cycle, and now


It is many of the same outlets in this room that talked


about the activities that were going on back then.


Well, President Obama's Director of National Intelligence,


James Clapper, says Trump's Twitter claims are entirely baseless.


But that didn't stop Senior White House advisor


Kellyanne Conway suggesting on Sunday that the alleged


surveillance may have gone beyond listening


What I can say is there are many ways to surveil each


There was an article this week that talked about how you can surveil


someone through their phones, through their television sets,


any number of different ways, and microwaves that turn


So we know that that is just a fact of modern life.


Well, Kellyanne was referring there to last week's WikiLeaks


revelations that the CIA has hacking tools for breaking into computers,


cell phones even smart TVs but, this morning, she backtracked.


They weren't making a suggestion about Trump Tower, those


And I answered him about surveillance generally.


But you have no evidence that that kind of surveillance


I have no evidence but that's why there's


Well, there was this reaction from the President Trump, who took


He wrote, "It is amazing how rude much of the media is to my very


Well, to get more on these allegations, we're joined


in the studio by William Cohen, former Defence Secretary and former


He also served on the Intelligence Committee for over a decade.


Is the onus here on the White House to prove that what President trump


accused President Obama of doing, a crime, he has evidence on that? We


are seeing an example of fake news coming directly out of the White


House. Just last week, the president was getting compliments for being


presidential because he wrote a speech. This is not presidential


conduct. The issue a tweet accusing a former president of committing a


felony without any evidence whatsoever. It is not saying,


Congress, please help me find out what is on my own department. All he


has to do is pick up the phone and say, tell me what happened. But the


ship that the Congress to conduct an investigation is sending Congress


down a rabbit hole. I think this is nonsense. So you do not think the


media is wrong to be asking questions about this? Until you have


proof of something as outrageous as this, we will cover something else,


we will not be diverted and covering all of this while other things going


on, people are being arrested and moved out of the United States,


actions are being taken, attorneys are being fired, rights are being


rolled back. We are now trying to find out what he meant, was it


surveillance, wiretapping, your phone? This is nonsense. This is


1984! The media has an obligation to tell the president he has facts and


to bring them forward. Not tomorrow, next week, next month, do it on your


own and do not make comments like this without facts. Essentially what


we are saying is we cannot trust what the president of the United


States is saying that has big implications not only the


relationships internally but externally, his credibility


worldwide? Credibility suffers. Not only does his credibility suffered


but that of the United States. We are seeing the US is portrayed as a


circus in which people are running around with bells and whistles,


trying to find out what the facts are. It is fake news in any event.


Facts really do count. The world is turning faster and faster and is


becoming more dangerous and the last thing we need is to be having fake


news put out. We are being seen as a circus. Thank you for joining us.


It is quite extraordinary the rhetoric and how it has escalated.


In one respect, neither side can back down. In the Netherlands, she


is facing up with the Nationalists and the far right politician in the


Netherlands, then you have got Mr Erdogan in Turkey who needs the


support of the nationalist -based. Definitely. It is a critical time


for both countries. Both will have elections in two days' time and in


Turkey, there is this referendum. And President Erdogan desperately


needs the Nationalists in Turkey because even though he has got the


support of the nationalist party, there is a crack in the base, so not


all of them are supporting him because these amendments will


increase his powers massively. He could not get the full support of


Nationalists in Turkey. It is like his last attempt to approach them


and filled the nationalist values. Reading some of the comments here.


Ankara should re-evaluate part of the deal they signed last year to


restrict the flow of migrants into Europe. This is a stick that they


can beat the Europeans with and they have used it before, and it would be


particularly potent when the French and Germans are going to the polls.


Turkey has been playing this card since last year. The agreement came


into effect last March and since then, the number of migrants who are


trying to cross into Europe or Turkey, the number of them has


declined dramatically, and Turkish citizens have been given these are


free travel promise, but it has not been fulfilled. So Turkey or the


time, after this agreement came into effect, using this card against


Europe, saying, we will open our borders and you will deal with that


problem. Interesting, we will watch that closely. This is exactly what


Bill Cowan was talking about, that there are moments in the world, that


the world is moving fast, where they get the crisis points. How are other


powers going to deal with that deterioration of relations where we


have had a president where people say not ready? I wonder what they


are thinking of what is happening in Turkey and what President Erdogan is


doing in a White House that frankly is not even staffed. That is exactly


edge. Four months ago, the Secretary of State would be wading in and


tried to cool heads and bang heads together. That is not happening.


Europe is very much on its own at the moment. Some of the comments


that are coming from Mr Erdogan really do rankle with particularly


the Dutch, the core of the Dutch Nazis after the history they have,


the occupation, and the number of people that died in the Netherlands,


it is really too much. You have seen some of the reaction we have had


today from the Netherlands. It would be interesting to know, even amongst


Mr Erdogan's supporters, who are thinking you has gone too far this


time. You wonder who will step in before that referendum because he is


now saying he will travel to Europe and get involved himself.


You're watching 100 Days from BBC News.


Still to come for viewers on the BBC News Channel and BBC World News?


We will be live in Westminster where MPs have voted in favour of


legislation, clearing the way for Britain to lead the way for


withdrawing from the European Union. It has been a mild start of the week


and a really pleasant one. The best of the sunshine has been in East


Anglia, south-east England. But also, in Northern Ireland, where the


temperatures reached 16.6 Celsius, the warmest day of the year so far


in Northern Ireland. Some areas of cloud have drifted south-eastwards.


It could well be that cloud has increased overnight. A mild Emerson


control, meaning temperatures will not go down too far. Outbreaks of


rain running in the north-west Scotland, becoming increasingly


lighter and patchy. By the end of the night, look at how this


temperatures stay up. Let's take a look at things at 8am. Mr nil for


ground. Could well be a bit damp and drizzly. Some brighter breaks across


central and eastern parts of England by a similarly misty, murky picture


into the high ground of north-west England. Could well brighten up a


time in Northern Ireland in the morning. Sunny spells in Scotland by


a strong wind across the North and severe gales here. The Northern and


western isles, just sent excess of 70 mph, particularly around some of


the showers. Elsewhere, variable cloud, some bright sunny spells, the


risk of patchy rain coming back from Northern Ireland, anywhere towards


the western hills could be dampened drizzly. In any sunshine, we could


see 18 Celsius. When the sun comes out, it feels very mild once again.


Some of that patchy rain further south as we go through Tuesday


evening and overnight. On Wednesday, an area of cloud. Still some showers


of rain in the northern Scotland, not as windy. The rain front we as


it pushes south on Wednesday but more weather fronts are coming our


way at the end of the week, ganging up on the Atlantic with stronger


winds as well. We will see a transition by the end of this week


lasting into the weekend to cooler weather, windy weather, and for many


of us, wetter weather. Welcome back to 100 days. I'm


Christian Fraser in London. Catty case in Westminster.


MPs at Westminster have overwhelmingly voted to overturn


Prime Minister Theresa May could theoretically start


the formal process of leaving the European Union,


And coming up we will be at the Mexico City that receives more


deportees than any other place on the southern border.


The now to a turbulent day in which is politics, Nicola Sturgeon will


try to hold a second referendum. And there is the policy of Brexit, they


are trying to start the Brexit process, they have rejected two


amendments from the House of Lords, earlier we heard from the Scottish


Nationalists and soda is here from the Brexit side, Dominic Robb was


one of the more vocal guys on the Brexit side. The Prime Minister said


"I will never allow a divisive Nationalists to undermine the union


between the nations of our United Kingdom. " Isn't that what Brexit


has done? I don't think so, we can't stop the SNP because sturgeon


continuing with this pretty obsessive tunnel vision towards


another referendum if that is really what they want but I'm not sure it


is what the Scottish people want. It is to the least to have this pledge


made now before we had even started a letter knowing where we know where


we will end up with the outcome of the Brexit negotiations. I think the


best thing that we can do is going to these negotiations with a very


clear mandate from Parliament, the economy is strong, going and looking


for the best deal we can get for every part and nation of the United


Kingdom. While we are at it, the generosity of spirit for the


European friends and look for the win- win deals. Of course the SNP


would say that people on the Brexit side have tunnel vision, let me ask


you, does the Scottish announcement today weakened the bargaining


position? First of all when the Prime Minister gave her Lancaster


house speech, in the polling that followed, there was huge public


support for the vision of post-Brexit Britain with a


self-governing democracy and strong European trading ally and friend but


also broadening our horizons to be a global leader and it was very


interesting, if you look at some of that evidence, there was clear


support in Scotland for that vision and I think we should get on. We


can't control what the SNP does, with democracy and a devolved


settlement. We are absolutely going to respect it, she is at liberty to


decide, and say what she wants to do. I'm just not sure that is where


the Scottish people are right now, that is for her to argue and she


will want to get easily decisions arguing for the best deal, in every


quarter of the United Kingdom. If we don't get an announcement that the


Prime Minister is triggering Article 50 tomorrow, is it fair to assume


that is a bit of a political victory for Nicola Sturgeon? I think it was


becoming evident from earlier in the day that the precise time, day or


week remains to be seen because what we are ready concerned about, is


less the political priorities and more what is the landscape in the


context of the EU and there is a huge amount going on but the truth


is, what we know today, is that we have got this very strong, clear


mandate from Parliament as well as directly for people through the


referendum. The economy is strong, the post-Brexit vision, but into a


white Paper, has attracted strong and overwhelming public support and


indeed support across the United Kingdom and all nations of the


United Kingdom. We need to crack on and focus on delivering it. And to


go into it with a bit of ambition and self-confidence. We have


debated, the bill on triggering Article 50, for six weeks. One


clause debated for six weeks, we have had these arguments, what the


public overwhelmingly wants is to get onto these negotiations and get


the best deal for everyone, whether they voted to leave or Remainers.


Thank you very much for joining the programme. Since Donald Trump, has


become the president, any illegal alien who is suspected of a crime is


not a priority for deportation. It means more fear of being deported.


The BBC's Juan Paullier reports from Tijuana which receives


more deportees than any other place along the US-Mexican border.


I am an American. MUSIC no other city on the US- Mexico border has a


more intimate relationship. For this hip hop artist who lives in the US


but has family on both sides of the wall, it has to find his music.


Because of my spirits is growing up, and knowing that my family members


in order to be with me, they are going to have to cross a border and


potentially get arrested. I made an effort not to put borders and


restrictions on my music. He has relatives among the estimated 11


million undocumented immigrants in the US. Trump's anti immigrant


rhetoric has left him treading the prospect of his family breaking up.


I had a family member who had to go into a government building and from


the moment that we got the scheduled date, to the actual date, there is a


lot of tension, there is a lot of arguments at home. Because of the


fear. There is a very real fear that anything could happen to our


families at any given moment. If deported, his relative may end up in


Tijuana. The city receives more deportees than any other city. For


those deported it is a painful paradox, they fill their foreigners


in the place they were born in. 530 is the area code. Tag twos tell a


story of a life involved in gangs, and drugs and guns. He spent his


teenage years in jail but was deported to Mexico because he was


born there. He was dropped into a place he barely knew, having to


speak a language that he had already forgotten. I think what I want to


say in image and I have to translate it in my mind to be able to say it,


and somewhat I can't even pronounce in Spanish. Third Israeli the reason


why, call centres have worked out for me. These are call centres and


many of the people working here have been deported from the US. It might


be surprising to people to know that they are talking to tattooed ex-gang


members. Chris is a supervisor and doesn't even think of going back to


his old life, but the new one hasn't been easy. Sometimes people don't


even give you that opportunity, they say he doesn't know any better. Some


all gangster or gangster wannabe, drug addict, deportee. But that is


how they, they looked down on me. If the US president keeps his promises,


the challenges here in Tijuana may not only be a bigger or high


offence. A wall of prejudice is another obstacle that many could


face. Difficult things to discuss on the


border. If I asked you what music,


tech, the Vatican and You might be hard pressed to come


up with a response - the answer though is that they're


all on the agenda at the South-by-Southwest festival


in the Texan capital Austin. And given the nature of


the new presidency here in the US - politics is most definitely under


the spotlight. Our North America reporter


Anthony Zurcher is there. Before we talk to you, I want to


talk about a famous visitor you have had down there, Joe Biden. He's


looking remarkably calm and relaxed but also taking a quick potshot at


President Trump. Just take a listen. It is my hope that this new


administration, once it gets organised and I'm not being


facetious, will be able to focus on and be as committed and enthusiastic


as we were in the goal of curing cancer as we know it. Is that Joe


Biden? Knowing Joe Biden he is being facetious. Is that the mood down


there? Well I think Joe Biden said that he didn't want to get into


politics and keep Robbie shouldn't be criticising the Trump


administration although he did take another swipe at them on climate


change policy. I think what you are seeing time and time again are


people trying to grapple with the changing politics here, in the US.


Last year, Barack Obama came to this conference and talked about how


government could be a force for good. That is a decidedly different


type of line of conversation coming from Washington about how to pare


back and dismantle the administrative state. If you look at


some of the panel discussions, it is about how Democratic mayors can hold


the line against the immigration policy and transgender policy. There


is talk about how the media can deal with fake news and however one can


pull together, and address the changing political environment.


There is definitely a shadow cast on this conference by the new wind is


blowing out of Washington. Are they also talking about some of the


social policies of this government, the travel ban, a lot of people who


travel to the United States and work in the tech industry have taken a


stance against it? Yes they have, I was discussing this very topic, with


a corporate CEO, and he said that the immigration issue was one of the


biggest concerns for them because they rely on the international


talent pool, the people that they can bring in, on the special visas


who have specific expertise and is larger concern was there was a lot


of uncertainty and businesses don't deal with uncertainty very well. In


a very sunny Austin, Texas, we should be there and not here in


Washington, because it is very chilly outside. So chilly in fact


that one house in upstate New York, looks like this. It sits on the


sure, of Lake Ontario, where they are bearing the brunt of the bitter


cold right now. Hall's bricks and windows. All covered in ice. I am


not sure if a front door is left, taken by a local photographer,


saying that many people doubted the authenticity, it is the era of fake


news. It is very cold, we are about to get slammed by a snowstorm. It is


a Joe Biden free zone. You are getting ready, boots and coat at the


ready. My kids of course of thinking, we are finally going to


get a snow day, we have almost had no winter in Washington. Here we are


in March, my son 's birthday and he is thinking he will get the day off


school. I think it is a snow day. You are not allowed to be late, I


need you. She was supposed to be coming to the White House, relations


a bit frosty between President Trump and Angela Merkel, he has called her


immigration policy is catastrophic. Maybe why this is why they


orchestrated this snowstorm. That is all for 100 days today, we will be


back at the same time tomorrow. And you can follow us on social media.


We hope to see you again, save time tomorrow, goodbye.