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Sophocles and Socrates - now please be upstanding for the

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The US Secretary of State is in Moscow

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but there's no sign America and Russia are any closer

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After a meeting of foreign ministers in Italy -

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can anything be done to get President Putin to change his mind?

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Rex Tillerson touched down in Moscow with a tough

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message about the future of the Syrian regime.

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It's clear to us that the reign of the Assad family is coming

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to an end but the question of how that ends and the transition itself

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President Putin fired back - saying enemies of the Syrian leader

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are planning future chemical attacks simply to discredit him.

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And the video everyone is talking about -

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a passenger is forcibly removed from a United plane and the company

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A fire destroys a migrant camp in France housing

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The blaze spread to large parts of the camp near the port of Dunkirk -

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Plus - a debate still rages in the US over whether to get your

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child vaccinated: We travel to Vashon Island to see

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if Donald Trump is helping the fuel the trend of worried parents.

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Hello, I'm Katty Kay in Washington, Christian Fraser is in London.

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Rex Tillerson likes to think he has a good relationship

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with Vladimir Putin - the Russian President even gave him

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But there was no warm welcome for the new US Secretary

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He flew in for talks on Syria - and the Russian promptly lambasted

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America for indulging in Iraq style war tactics.

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The US wants Moscow to drop its support

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On Monday in Italy, the British Foreign Secretary

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had told reporters this was a window of opportunity.

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It's time, he said, for Putin to face the truth.

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Germany and Italy are opposed to further sanctions.

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The only agreement said the Secretary of State is that

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It is clear to all of us that the reign of the Assad family is coming

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to an end but the question of how that ends and the transition itself

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could be very important in our view to the jury ability and the

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stability of a unified Syria -- the durability. And the outcome going

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forward. So that is why we are not presupposing how that occurs. But I

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think it is clear that we see no further role for the Assad regime

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longer term, given that they have effectively given up their

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legitimacy with these type of attacks.

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Today President Putin shot back - saying the US strike on Syria

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And then he went on to state - with no evidence -

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that enemies of President Assad are planning further chemical

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weapons attacks in Syria, just to point blame at the regime.

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similar provocations, I can't call them any differently,

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are being prepared in other parts of Syria, too.

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Including the southern suburbs of Damascus where they are preparing

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to release some sort of substance again.

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Well, for reaction from Moscow, we've been speaking to our

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correspondent there, Steve Rosenberg.

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After the stalemate it would seem as if Rex Tillerson is coming to Moscow

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in some sort of holding role. I think so. He still believes that he

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can get a deal with the Russians and he doesn't believe this is an

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impossible mission. He does have formed with the Russians, when he

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was an or an executive, he was quite close to people high up in the

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Russian leadership -- an oil executive of the he was given an

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award in fact by Vladimir Putin, but it would be much harder for Rex

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Tillerson to secure the political privacy is seen, a U-turn by the

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Kremlin on Syria, because if President Assad is Russia's key

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military ally in the Middle East, no doubt about that. And the Russians

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have invested heavily in him, militarily and politically and

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financially, to make sure that Assad stays in power, and in the eyes of

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Moscow President Assad is not only a figure they believe guarantees

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against an is the mist takeover of civic but he is the guarantor of

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Russian interests -- an Islamist takeover. It will take some in very

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special indeed, very special for Rex Tillerson to convince the Russians

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to rethink their support for President Assad and if that actually

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happens then maybe that will only happen if the Russians come to the

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conclusion, if they ever do, that Assad has become a liability, for

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Russia. It seems that President Assad is going to stay, that is what

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the Russians want, but why do Vladimir Putin give this slightly

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bizarre press conference just as Rex Tillerson was arriving, in which he

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spoke about these new attacks and a conspiracy theory that President

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Assad was about to be slander by the opposition? Bizarre things happen

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all the time here, but our press conferences happen all the time in

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Russia, but this is the narrative that the Kremlin and the Russian

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authorities have been putting out -- but bizarre press conferences. They

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believe President Assad was not behind the chemical attack last

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week, they have made that clear in foreign ministry statements and

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Kremlin statements, and the fact that Vladimir Putin was talking

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about further provocations being planned, as he put it, that puts

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extra pressure on Rex Tillerson and it reinforces the Russian line that

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Moscow does not believe that President Assad was behind that

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attack. Steve, thanks for joining us.

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Nick Burns, as Rex Tillerson arrives in Moscow, how much leverage does

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he really have over Russia to try to get them to

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Actually, I think the United States has very little leverage here.

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The Russians of course are the dominant military power

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in Syria, they have air power on the ground, they have a naval

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base, they are aligned to the Syrian government.

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The Iranian Revolutionary Guard and Hezbollah are fighting with them,

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Of course we have been fighting the Islamic State,

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we have been working with Syrian Kurds, but it's

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very much an imbalance of power right now.

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And I just don't think that President Putin is going to be

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pushed off his position, that he's going to be a stalwart

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supporter of President Assad and try to keep that regime alive.

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And in fact their goal is to win the war.

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So I appreciate what Secretary Tillerson is trying to do

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and that is to move the Russians towards negotiations over

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It's an uphill climb given the power disparity between the US and Russia

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Right, but I can imagine the White House responding

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by saying, hold on a second, we just launched 59 missiles,

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we have shown that American military might is back again.

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And doesn't that give us more negotiating power?

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I think it does provide the US with a little credibility.

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I favoured what President Trump did in firing the cruise missiles

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in response to the sarin gas, the chemical weapons attack.

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You never want to normalise the use of chemical weapons, they needed

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But look, what has happened over the last 48, 72 hours,

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is the administration has been all over the map in what they

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Sean Spicer, we will respond to barrel bombs, Nikki Haley,

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Rex Tillerson, we're going to defend against all

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This is not a credible policy and there needs to be some

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discipline both in what they say but also very importantly,

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And I just don't think in the space of a week,

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the administration has been able to formulate and agree

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inside the White House what is it exactly they're seeking here.

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So I think that Secretary Tillerson, who is a very skilled person,

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is at a significant disadvantage going into this discussion in Moscow

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because Putin knows exactly what is trying to do.

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Nick Burns, do you think there is a chance that

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President Trump might look at what happened in Syria last week

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and the American attacks and think to himself,

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I did it in Syria, I can now do it in other countries around the world.

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That he might decide this is the model, for example,

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I had an article in the FT over the weekend, the Financial Times,

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saying essentially this, that this worked as a tactic once.

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But if you try to translate, or take what happened in Syria,

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if you are the Trump administration, and apply it to North Korea,

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North Korea is a far more powerful foe.

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And so I think the Trump administration cannot believe that

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somehow one size fits all and that one policy can be transferred

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In fact probably a much more dangerous problem,

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the problem of North Korea with nuclear weapons.

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OK, Nick Burns, thanks very much for joining us.

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This is what Sean Spicer has had to say. Russia is on an island with it

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comes to its lack of acknowledgement of what happened, and the facts are

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on our side and the actions of Syria are reprehensible and Russia have

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been partial to several international agreements that Syria

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is not holding up to and also Russia needs to hold up to. The president

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has been clear with his stance towards Russia and we are going to

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be very forceful, as will Rex Tillerson during his visit, to make

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sure that we let Russia know that they need to live up to the

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obligations they have made. One of the issues we haven't

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discussed is what would happen If the Russians stepped aside

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and let the war play out. Our Security Correspondent

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Frank Gardner is here. In that scenario the situation would

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be one where you would have Islamic State, Al-Qaeda state and the other

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proxies fighting it out for Damascus. That is the risk. Russia

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has a huge amount of self interest in staying in Syria, used to have

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all sort of client states over the Middle East, Libya, Yemen, Egypt,

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but it has lost bows and now only has Syria, but it would like to stay

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there. -- it has lost those. It looks at what happened in Libya,

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Russia signed up to the UN Security Council resolution that applied a

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no-fly zone to stop AIDS massacre by -- to stop a massacre by Colonel

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Gaddafi. Libya now, is an basic set story question not know, it is a

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complete basket case. -- is it a success story? Assad is a monster

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and he has murdered so many people in that country's dreadful civil

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war, but to Vladimir Putin he symbolises stability. If you have a

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rushed and forced departure of Assad you risk the collapse of the regime

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and the worry is that you have Al-Qaeda and Isil shooting it out on

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the streets of Damascus and that will make the last six years look

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like a picnic. General McMaster gave an interview yesterday in which he

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said the sequencing of this was important and he said the defeat of

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Isis should come first. That reassures you that there won't be a

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vacuum? Yes, the ten General McMaster is a very wise and

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considered officer -- lieu tenant general. He's not afraid of speaking

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truth to power, but the sequencing will be difficult and it won't

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necessarily be at the choosing of Washington. As someone said earlier,

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America isn't pulling the strings, Russia and Iran are pulling the

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strings, and what you don't want is the situation we had in Iraq after

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2003, after years of total -- totalitarian rule, the heart was

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ripped out and the country imploded, and it became a playground for

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terror groups. Syria already has terror groups but it is important

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they don't gain ground. If you dismantle the Assad regime too

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quickly, so the timing and the sequencing of this is incredibly

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important. Not to repeat the mistakes of 2003. Thanks for joining

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us. We are looking at a situation where

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we have the risk of not only Iraq, but Libya, and maybe Egypt, you

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remove one strongman and you leave a country with nobody protecting the

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situation on the ground and a certain amount of chaos, and Islamic

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extremism steps in. We have heard from Sean Spicer this evening and

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Rex Tillerson and Nikki Haley, but we haven't heard from Donald Trump.

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Yes, he hasn't mentioned the word Russia and Moscow ever since those

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attacks or the word Iran, but those will be the big buyers. We will talk

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about Iran later -- the big players. We have a breaking news story from

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Germany. The football club Russia Borussia Dortmund said there has

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been an explosion near their team bus, and one person has been

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injured. We are hearing that the explosion was in front of the team

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bus as it set off to the stadium. We understand the bus was on the way to

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this stadium ahead of their Champions League match against

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Monaco. We will come back to that. There's a

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good chance that game will be suspended.

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Last month the CEO of United Airlines, Oscar Munoz,

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was named by one PR Magazine, as US Communicator of the Year.

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In the past 48 hours he has lost that title,

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with his comments on a passenger's re-accomodation - yes,

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apparently in corporate speak that is a real word.

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I'm sure you've all seen the video, the customer filmed

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being forcibly removed from his seat by air marshals and dragged down

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the aisle of an overbooked plane, bloodied and visibly shaken.

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But for anyone who's flown recently it's worth seeing again.

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In response to that extraordinary episode, the

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CEO Oscar Munoz sent out an email saying -

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that he 'regrets the situation' - adding that the airline had followed

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'established procedures' - and that the passenger

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Well, as you could possibly imagine, the internet's

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gone into meltdown - with one of United's

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rivals immediately taking advantage of the situation:

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Our colleague is on their way back from Denver and they have just said

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this on Twitter. We have not heard from him since! Maybe he has been

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very accommodated. So how does a company get itself out

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of PR disaster like this? With us is public relations

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consultant Jason Mollica. Could United Airlines have handled

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this any worse? From start to finish. A catalogue of how not to do

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it. It will be a case study of how not to handle your public relations

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at a time of crisis or building crisis, and if you look at

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everything from the statement to how it was handled, it makes me cringe a

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little bit, as a PR pro, to hear a CEO put out a statement saying this,

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or at least the airline putting one on his behalf, and there is nothing

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coming about this message, to say we apologise, and we want to make sure

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we keep your business, nothing about that at all -- nothing calming. And

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by the way they should not have beaten up the person in the first

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place. That is even more important. It will probably not stop me flying

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with that airline, but Bishop was collapsed, down 4%. -- but the share

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price collapsed. China are very upset about this as well. It shows

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you just how it could be, an American airline, but it doesn't

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matter because it has a worldwide effect on their business. Big is

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going -- biggest growing participation probably in China.

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Yes. These things linger, it has hashtags and people make jokes about

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this and this will go on for awhile, especially people are making jokes

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and it has gone past the 48-hour mark and there is no stopping it.

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Until they rescue it. If you can't get people to get off the plane,

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surely you wave a cheque book at them, and you offer more money. Why

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did that not happen in the first place? It should have, really. Let's

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be honest, the first thing you want to do is to make sure that people...

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They are your clients, your customers and you don't want to do

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something like this and make it seem like they don't matter. This man was

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dragged off and basically they just needed to put a leash on this person

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and you could consider they were acting like he was an animal and

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that is not what you want to put forward. As a business in general.

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They should have said, and it is his right as a passenger, he bought the

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ticket, he could stay on the plane, the last thing you want is to have

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this video pop up all over the world, showing an agent forcibly

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removing this person from a plane he had a ticket for, is just a bad

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situation round for United Airlines. To be honest, it will take them

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along time to recover from this, I believe. Jason, thanks for joining

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us. United Airlines likes to call itself, fly the friendly skies, that

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is the slogan, but not so friendly today. The stock market has

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accommodated millions of dollars of their capital, down 4% in trading.

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We failed to mention that it was three United Airlines employees who

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they wanted to get on the plane. Put them in a car and sent them away.

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You don't need to drag people off the plane. Maybe they will next

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time. We will see. Let's move on. In Sweden, a failed Uzbek asylum

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seeker accused of last Friday's truck attack in Stockholm has

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appeared in court. A lawyer for Rakhmat Akilov who's

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39, said he'd admitted to carrying out what he called

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a "terrorist crime". Four people were killed

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when a hijacked beer truck ploughed There's been a blast in the mainly

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Kurdish city of Diyarbakir Reports say the explosion

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was in a police compound - bringing down a roof

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and injuring four people. Tensions are high in Turkey,

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in the run-up to Sunday's referendum on the President's

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constitutional role. A huge fire has destroyed

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a camp housing about 1500 The fire took hold after several

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people suffered knife wounds in At least ten people

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were hurt when flames tore through the closely-packed huts

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at the Grande-Synthe camp, Our correspondent,

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Gavin Lee, was there. This is what happened

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to the migrant camp. It was 2am this morning,

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when numerous fires were lit I'm told by some of the migrants,

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before they left, that they watched fighting between Afghan migrants

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and some men from Iraqi Kurdistan. It was over something petty,

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over a football game that turned But there had been big pressures

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here because some of these shacks that are now burnt,

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there had been up to nine people, men, families, inside,

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because of the number of people that have come from Calais camps six

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months ago, which closed. The amount of people

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here just increased There's a kitchen over the other

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side, 500 Afghan men Aid agencies say that this

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was a moment waiting to happen. This is all over this huge camp

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by the main road close to where people were trying to stow

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away with the lorries. I spoke to a few of the migrants

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as they were leaving. This is where you

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were sleeping, here? The police are telling

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you to move away. Well, the police are moving the last

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few migrants away from here. The site is now completely empty,

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I would say about 50% They've been told to go

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to emergency shelters, where I've been told

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there is room for 900. There are 1500 people here and many

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migrants have said they will just They will set up other

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makeshift camps. This comes just before the French

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elections, so this is a big issue and is bound to play in the election

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campaign. Politicians scrambling with how to respond. The main

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candidates have spoken about it and they have said the agreement needs

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to be renegotiated and the border needs to be put back in the UK and

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you can bet with Brexit that will be a big issue on the other side of the

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election. The big issue in Britain and France.

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The North Korea question - and how to handle an increasingly

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belligerent regime - is clearly uppermost

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Because he's keeping the issue very much alive on Twitter.

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This is the latest from this morning.

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We can show our viewers some pictures from today, it's a big week

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in North Korea. Kim Jong-un was sitting in front of the special

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People's assembly. Those figures behind him, his father and

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grandfather. They also cult-like figures in North Korea and they are

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the 680 deputies from the political elite who are each chosen to

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represent their regions, but you get a good feeling of this cult of

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personality in North Korea. And what he says goes. Every time we see

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those pictures from North Korea, so bizarre. Even the clapping,

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perfectly in sync and everyone doing exactly what they are meant to do,

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because a aways the fear if you don't do that -- there is always the

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fear if you don't do that, you could end up with your head on the block.

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Interesting, that message he put out on Twitter, if President Trump is

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thinking that he had the success in Syria with a one off strike and if

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he thinks he can repeat that in North Korea which also has nuclear

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weapons, he should perhaps speak -- perhaps the reconsidering that

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option. You're watching 100

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Days from BBC News. Still to come for viewers

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on the BBC News Channel and BBC World News -

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the debate in the US over whether to get your child

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vaccinated: We travel to Vashon Island to see

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if Donald Trump is helping the fuel And as the clock ticks down

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towards that vital 100 days marker, how will Donald Trump's

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new administration be judged? More clout in the next few days with

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the threat of a view more -- more cloud in the next few days with the

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threat of some more rain. The weather front will bring rain across

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western Scotland, sliding south to Glasgow and Galloway and into parts

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of Northern Ireland, blustery conditions, not much rain to the

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east of Scotland and dry in much of England and Wales. Away from parts

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of Cumbria later on. Temperatures not as low later as they were last

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night, and not as sunny to start the southern half of the UK tomorrow.

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Maybe a few showers in the Ares of silly and also Cornwall, but they

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will be some breaks in the cloud -- the Isles of Scilly. It is a dry

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pitch of much of Wales and England. -- picture for much. Fabrics of rain

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easing off in Northern Ireland and unfreeze and Galloway, outbreaks of

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rain. Mixture of sunshine and blustery showers, and that will

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continue through the day with gusty winds and a brighter day in much of

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Scotland. In the afternoon across much of northern England, a few

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showers, but turning grey through Wales and the Midlands and East

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Anglia, some rain, but mostly dry, especially Southern counties, where

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again 15-16 is possible, but even the cooler air reaches here on

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Thursday and there will be a cold start with a ridge of high pressure.

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Maybe sunshine around and maybe even a touch of frost. Crowding over many

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areas, a few showers possible, but for most it will be predominantly

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dry. -- clouding over. Good Friday, plenty of cloud, with spots of rain,

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not a huge amount of rain, the odd shower, the best of the brightness

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in the southern parts of England and southern Scotland. Dry weather on

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Saturday in parts of Scotland. Sunday, the wettest conditions in

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the north and not too much rain in the South and then Easter Monday has

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a ridge of high pressure starting to build, and that means for Easter

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weekend there will be more rain around compared to recently, but

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still dry and sunny weather to enjoy, as well.

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I'm Katty Kay in Washington - Christian Fraser is in London.

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The US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson flies to Moscow,

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to try to persuade Russia to abandon its support

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And - he's in listening mode today - but how

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is Donald Trump's Presidency shaping up, as he nears that

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We'll take a look at some of the challenges facing a man

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who promised a whole new way of doing business in Washington.

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Iran's Defence Minister warned today that any further US action in Syria

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The comments followed a White House warning that any

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more chemical attacks, or possibly even barrel bomb

:30:53.:30:54.

attacks, by the Syrian regime could prompt another

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Moscow announced today it will hold a meeting with Iran

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and Syria at the end of this week - so as the three countries

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plot their strategy, is the US ready for any consequences

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Joining us now is former US state department official

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Vali Nasr who is now Dean of the Johns Hopkins School

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There has been a lot of focus on Russia since these chemical attacks

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in Syria. But Iran is the country in a way that has the most to lose from

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Donald Trump and American aggression or potential aggression in that

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region. How do you think they will respond. I think Iran and Russia are

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on the same page when it comes to the Donald Trump threat to their

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strategy in Syria. The Russians have a lot to lose, I think both of them

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are trying to create a deterrent against the US so Iran is making a

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military warning that if you do something they may be a retaliatory

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measure, the Russians have access to talking to the Trump administration

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and they will use the diplomatic channels essentially to convey the

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same message. They want to tell the Trump administration the major

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point, do not get in our way, do not get in the war and we will not do

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anything provocative, but do not do anything. And what kind of

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retaliatory measures might Iran have at its disposal? There are a variety

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of means, there are US troops on the ground in Iraq and US installations.

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Also they have rockets in that theatre of war. Also they may hit

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against American allies in the region. We have just been getting

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news from the White House, we had that briefing from Sean Spicer, the

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White House press spokesman, he said that Hitler did not even think to

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using chemical weapons. That's just have a listen. We did not use

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chemical weapons in World War II. Someone as despicable as Hitler did

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not even think to using chemical weapons. So if you are Russia you

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have to ask yourself is this the country you and a regime you want to

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align yourself with. Clinton has just tweeted asking if he may be to

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go to the Holocaust memorial down the road. Something that is often

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overlooked, it is Iran and its proxies that control the situation

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on the ground. We talk about Russia having the leverage over Assad but

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if the situation is going to change in Syria it is going to be on the

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ground and that is the Iranians that control the ground. They do control

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the ground, they're running the ground operation with the support of

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Russian air power. This is a conjoined military intelligence

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operation. And we often do not appreciate how tightly the Iranians

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and Russian alliance is in propping up Assad. So it is a mistake to

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think you could just lean on the Russians to abandon Assad and lean

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on the Iranians to abandon Assad and Russia. You're dealing with Iranians

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Russian conjoined strategy. This is further complicated by the situation

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of course in Iraq where Shia militias are working alongside Iraqi

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government forces helped by US forces in the city of Mosul to try

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to oust Islamic State from there. That is exactly where the Iranian

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leverages, Iranians retaliation would come in Iraq, not necessarily

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in the form of a direct attack but they could make the military

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campaign against Mosul get much more complicated and create a lot more

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headaches for Washington. Thank you very much.

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News coming in from that Borussia Dortmund game. They were playing

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against Monaco, there has been an explosion near a bus and one player

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has been taken to hospital. Police now think the game is postponed. So

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the game will not take place this evening.

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Vaccines save millions of lives around the world every year.

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But there is concern among American doctors that President Trump

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is about to open up a deeply contentious issue.

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He's pledged to commission a new vaccine safety committee

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which will investigate - among other things - the link

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At the moment the US vaccination rates remain high overall,

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but there are an increasing number of families deciding not

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Some of the lowest vaccination rates in the country are on Vashon Island

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The BBC's global health Correspondent Tulip Mazumdar has

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Welcome to Vashon Island, a few miles off the Seattle coast.

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It's a small, affluent community that embraces natural, clean living.

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These children's parents want the absolute best for them.

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Like any medication, vaccines can cause mild and in very

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But the scientific consensus on them is clear - they are safe,

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These mums however are still unconvinced.

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We live in a society that values profit over public health.

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And so we really have to do our own research to find

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There was a huge amount of evidence that it was harmful,

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even if they weren't ways we could scientifically prove it,

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it was just talking from one mother to another.

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Here on Vashon Island like many other parts

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of the United States parents can opt out of vaccinating their children

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But the issue has caused deep divides in this

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Four-year-old twins Lilani and Scarlet are getting right up to

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There has never been any doubt that that is the right thing to do.

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It may be painful but these shots protect against deadly

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diseases including measles, which before vaccines used to kill

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hundreds of children every year in the US.

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Whooping cough is also a major concern.

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If we don't immunise enough of the children in the school,

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then on a fairly regular basis whooping cough epidemics can come

:37:29.:37:32.

through and grow in the school, and the most dangerous part is those

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infections can be taken home and little babies can be infected

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This is the man who wants to chair a vaccine safety committee

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He completely dismisses the scientific consensus on vaccines.

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I don't believe government officials, I don't believe.

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I have to be sceptical and we all ought to be sceptical.

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The President's own scientifically unfounded comments in the past

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The beautiful child went to have the vaccine and came back

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and a week later got a tremendous fever, got very, very

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He appealed to emotion, he appealed to fear.

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We know vaccines don't cause autism and we are frightened

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statements like this could deter families from getting vaccines.

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Back at the clinic, Lilani and Scarlet are getting

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But for their parents the greater good for the health of the island

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Tulip Mazumdar, BBC News, Vashon Island.

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Let's talk about this more. I remember nearly in 2000 when we were

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thinking of having children, having dinner with friends, they were

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talking about this sphere. It does perpetuate and you think this is the

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most precious thing, why would I put my child at risk. It is a very

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emotive decision and during the time you are talking about, early 2000, a

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British doctor had, but this controversial and subsequently

:39:19.:39:20.

discredited study that suggested a link between autism and vaccines

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which has since been totally discredited and he was struck. But

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it put doubt in the minds of many parents and that is something that

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has reverberated all over the world. And what I saw on Vashon Island and

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other areas, parents do not trust the authorities, do not trust the

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doctors, the World Health Organisation, they're all saying

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vaccines are safe but they talk to their friends and gold social media,

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they ask about the stories and come back and hear about them. Well in

:39:52.:40:00.

the case of measles, if no one vaccinate Siew have a real problem.

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And that happened just a few years back in California, Disneyland, one

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and 100 people were infected because someone came from abroad to

:40:09.:40:12.

Disneyland and infected others who were not vaccinated and those people

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went on to infect other people in other states as well. That also did

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not vaccinate. But highlighted for the first time in a long time this

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vaccine sceptic problem. We will have to leave it there, thank you.

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Just extra news on that incident in Germany, police are saying there

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with three explosions involving that Borussia Dortmund team bus as it

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went on its way to the stadium. The player injured was the Spaniard,

:40:44.:40:49.

Marc Bartra. The 26-year-old. Apparently he has been taken to a

:40:50.:40:55.

local hospital. And the quarterfinal of the Champions League, that game

:40:56.:40:57.

has been postponed this evening. We talked a little earlier

:40:58.:40:59.

about crisis management - according to Politico

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there is a certain amount of that going on in the White

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House at the moment. "White House on edge as 100-day

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judgment nears" is their headline. They quote a senior White House

:41:11.:41:18.

staffer - unnamed - who says "One hundred days

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is the marker, and we've got essentially two and a half weeks

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to turn everything around. This is going to be

:41:25.:41:26.

a monumental task." What to think they're going to be

:41:27.:41:38.

talking about? It is interesting, this 100 days thing in modern

:41:39.:41:42.

American politics has become a big deal, this will be the moment where

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we have reviews of how the administration has been doing and

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they will relive generals then being ousted after just three weeks,

:41:53.:41:56.

relive the health care disaster that the president has had and what the

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White House needs to do effectively is to give a counter narrative and

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say actually we had these successes, the Supreme Court justice, the

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deregulation they have done and the executive orders. So you have this

:42:11.:42:17.

kind of back and forth between the press and its tally of how the White

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House is doing and the White House and the message it wants to get out.

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And of course the message this evening is not going to well. Sean

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Spicer picked up on this comments about Hitler and chemical weapons.

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We brought you out earlier and that is going to get a lot of attention

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in the US. The message to American politicians should be just do not

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mention Hitler and the Second World War. I have heard politician after

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politician get into hot water here in America because of some reference

:42:48.:42:50.

to Hitler. It never ends well for them. If you would like to join us

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to get in

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