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Manchester police say they have made significant arrests

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It comes as a minute's silence is held across the UK

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There have been more raids as police hunt the network that

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The arrests that we have made are significant and initial searches

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of premises have revealed items that we believe are very important

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Leaks of the investigation to US media are causing a serious row

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Manchester police are no longer sharing information with America.

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As the last of the victims are identified, the Queen visits

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Manchester's Children's Hospital to meet some of the injured.

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The attack in Manchester preoccupies world leaders

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President Trump stands with his Nato colleagues in calling for a unified

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But then takes them to task over defence spending.

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The Republican candidate is charged with assaulting a reporter just

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Hello, I am Christian Fraser, in London.

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We're learning a bit more about Salman Abedi's movements

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Last week we know he travelled through Dusseldorf Airport,

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he was in transit, but where was he coming from and who

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Authorities are trying to answer those questions.

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There is a lot of sensitive material that still needs

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The Chief Constable of Greater Manchester Police,

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Ian Hopkins, said that leaks in the United States

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have caused distress to the families of the victims.

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But he also said progress is being made in the investigation.

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The arrests have taken place in Manchester,

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Wigan and Nuneaton, and we are now carrying

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out associated searches in relation to those arrests

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These have been an intense three days for the officers and staff

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of Greater Manchester Police along with the national counter-terrorist

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policing network and UK intelligence services.

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I want to reassure people that the arrests we have made

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are significant and initial searches of premises have revealed items

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that we believe are very important to the investigation.

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Joining us from Manchester is Catriona Renton, outside

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Significant developments today. A number of bomb scares around the

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city? The first hours got off to a slow start. Significant progress in

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the last 24-hours. The Chief Constable, Ian Hopkins, spoke to

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reporters earlier today. He was able to say that eight people, eight men,

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are in custody. They were arrested in Manchester, Wigan and Nuneaton in

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the north of England. These, he said, were significant arrests. A

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woman was arrested, but released without charge. Ongoing at the

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moment searches ever associated properties. He said initial searches

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of premises had revealed items they believe to be important to the

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investigation. Now, as we speak, three properties, where three of

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those men were arrested, are currently being searched. We

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understand that the bomb disposal squad are at a property in

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Manchester helping the police there. In Wigan, a street has been

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evacuated. That was another location where somebody was arrested. We also

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understand that that another property in Manchester is currently

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being searched. A very fast moving investigation with new leads and

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links coming in all the time. The police have said to expect these

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searches to take several days. They've asked the public to bear

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with them on this because these searches are very important. What

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are they looking for? They are looking for components that would

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have been used to make a bomb or chemicals, elements that would help

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them discover what else is out there. That is the idea that is

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coming forward this evening. While there is an enormous sense of

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progress, there is also a much larger sense of doubt around the

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bigger picture. What else is out there? That is what police are

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trying to find out now. Who created the bomb that Salman Abedi carried

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and who else is out there may have components? Are there other bombs

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there. They need to find that. There is no sign at the moment that the

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threat level will be lowered any time soon. A long way to go with

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this investigation. Thank you very much for joining us.

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It seems to be clear they are anxious to find the rest of this

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network. I man, from previous experiences, I'm thinking of Paris,

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which you covered, the Bataclan attacks. They don't know whether

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another attack is imminent. There is a race against time for

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investigators now? You are always on the clock if you don't know fully

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what you are dealing with. You are right, it does have echoes of what

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happened after the back clan because, remember, there was a

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suicide vest dumped in a bin in northern Paris which told them there

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was a suicide bomber who hadn't gone through with it. There was a support

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network for him as well. It was a tip off from the family member who

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was the recruiter for that cell that led them to that flat. When they

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went in there, you will remember they almost blew up the apartment

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getting at him, they killed him inside the apart. There was a blot

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plot to hit the business district in Paris which they disrupted. They

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were lucky. They went through that sea of information. It was that tip

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off that helped. They will hope for something similar in that Manchester

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investigation. The British authorities will be speaking to

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French authorities to learn what happened after that attack, too.

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Undoubtedly to both the French and German authorities, I would think.

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Britain held a minute's silence today to remember

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All 22 people who died have now been identified.

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The Queen visited some of them today.

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So you'd come specially for the concert, had you?

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She sounds very good, very good singer.

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That is 14-year-old Evie Mills, who travelled to the Arian Grande

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concert, a birthday present she had been looking forward to.

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Police investigating the attack say they have stopped sharing

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information with American officials after intelligence was

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The Prime Minister, Theresa May, has raised the issue

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with President Trump at the Nato meeting in Brussels.

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Mr Trump said that the leaks were "deeply troubling" adding...

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"I am asking the department of Justice and other relevant

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agencies to launch a complete review of this matter.

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There is no relationship we cherish more than the Special Relationship

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between the United States and the United Kingdom."

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We have a Special Relationship with the USA.

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It is our deepest defence and security partnership that we have.

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Of course that partnership is built on trust and part of that trust

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is knowing that intelligence can be shared confidently, and I will be

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making clear to President Trump today that intelligence

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that is shared between law enforcement agencies

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Joining us to discuss this issue is Pete Hoekstra,

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a Trump campaign advisor and former Chairman of the House

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How unusual is this kind of a rift between British and American

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Intelligence Services, Congressman? I think it's kind of unusual. The

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United States, the Brits, the Australians, New Zealanders,

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Canadians we have a relationship that means these are our closest

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allies. Our closest partners in sharing information. Basically,

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there's almost total transparency between all of our intelligence

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agencies to work together and co-ordinate their activities.

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American officials like to refer to the British relationship as the

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special relationship. The Brits do it all the time too and sometimes it

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goes through wobbles. It's a relationship that American officials

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prize. How embarrassing is this to the United States at the moment that

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these leaks are happening in this particular incident, where so much

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pain has been caused in Manchester? I think it's very embarrassing. It's

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a place that the United States of America doesn't want to be. It's a

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very, very special relationship. More importantly, at thes's an

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essential relationship if we're going to be successful in, you

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know,ifyinging radical Islam or other threats that we will face in

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the future, we need this kind of co-operation. As you said earlier in

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your news report, you know, we need to be co-ordinating with the French,

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we need to be co-ordinating with the Germans and we need to figure out

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where this terrorist was, whether it was Libya, on the continent, to put

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the pieces together to find what may be a network cell. It's absolutely

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essential that we co-ordinate and work together if we're going to be

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safe. Congressman. I'ming back to the Snowdon leak and they were

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trying to investigate where it came from, there were 800,000 people who

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had access to that information. So when Donald Trump says, "we'll

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investigate and prosecute if we can", it's not going to be so

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straight-forward, is it? I'm sure that the Brits have found that other

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people who work in the intelligence area, we found it here in the United

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States, it's very difficult to identify where the leaks are coming

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from and what the actual motivation may be for any of these leaks. That

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doesn't mean that we shouldn't try. In this case, there's a limited

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number of people who may have had information to the data that the

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Brits believe is very, very sensitive. We've had some other

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leaks here recently again, a small universe of people. I think, if you

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put a concerted effort, if you demonstrate that there is a

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concerted effort that when there is a leak we will do everything we can

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to find you and to hold you accountable to the law, that's what

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I would expect our intelligence and Department of Justice to do. I think

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that's what our partners would expect that we would do, to at least

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demonstrate an effort to stop this. Briefly, you served on the Trump

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campaign, do you think the President bears any responsibility for this in

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this context. He has said some things about the US Intelligence

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Services which have clearly not endeared them to those officials and

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agents. Is that part of the break down in trust that we're seeing in

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the Intelligence Services? That may lead to a break down between the

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President and the intelligence community, but, you know, these

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types of leaks break down the effectiveness of the intelligence

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community and they break down the relationship the trust that we have

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between the United States and the Brits. There is absolutely no excuse

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for anybody in the intelligence community to be leaking this

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information to do damage to the President because they may damage

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the President but they are damning the national security of the United

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States and our allies. There is absolutely no excuse for this type

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of behaviour. Thank you very much for your thoughts. Donald Trump and

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Theresa May talking today of the special relationship. Is this a

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really big problem for them? Look, I think everybody on both sides of the

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Atlantic. I have spoken to Senators here and British officials in the

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last 24-hours recognise this relationship is very important be,

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but they will will get over this. I have never in my time in the United

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States, over the last 20 years, I can't remember an occasion with

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where a British service like the Manchester Police who said, we are

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not serving intelligence with America any more. That's serious.

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It's embarrassing to US owe fishals and US Intelligence Services. They

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will get over it. It doesn't sit well with with the American

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intelligence to like to pride themselves of having a good

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relationship with the United Kingdom. Leaking of information is

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turning into a trend in the United States.

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A transcript has appeared of a telephone call

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between Donald Trump and the Philippine President,

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Rodrigo Duterte ,which took place in late April.

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The transcript revealed that Mr Trump disclosed that the US

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military had moved two nuclear submarines near to North Korea -

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something Pentagon officials have said should not have been discussed.

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But the transcript was clearly confidential -

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attached to it was a cover sheet saying just that.

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It came this leak, not from the United States this time, from the

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Philippines. The question will be - why was Mr Trump giving this

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information? Should not have been discussed. Submarine, the very point

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of it. Nuclear submarine. Even worse. OK.

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Donald Trump was keen to use the Nato meeting to raise

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the issue of defence funding among member countries.

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But in the light of the Manchester attack, much of the discussion has

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Nato has agreed to take a bigger role in the fight

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Here was President Trump speaking out on Monday's attack.

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It was a barbaric and vicious attack upon our civilisation.

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All people who cherish life must unite in finding,

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exposing and removing these killers and extremists.

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Joining us now from Washington is Former US Ambassador

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Nato members and the President seem to agree. How much can Nato be doing

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in the fight against Islamic terrorism and terrorism in general?

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There is a couple of ways to look at it what was agreed and decided

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today. Nato an organisation will be part of the coalition. That means

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that certain Nato assets such as surveillance aircraft, air to ground

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surveillance, communications, command-and-control, they could be

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made available to the coalition. It also provides a bit of additional

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cover for individual allies to contribute. What more Nato could do

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is to look at sharing intelligence internally, creating a fusion cell

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and looking more at terrorist activities inside Nato areas itself.

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That is something Nato has not yet done, but could do more of. That is

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an area in which the leaders seem to agree, of course, an area which

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there is some disagreement over is Donald Trump's relationship with

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Nato more broadly. I understand there is some disquiet at the

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Brussels meeting that the President didn't come out and offer more

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fulsome support of Nato. He didn't come out and say it was be o sow

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Lee. He didn't support the alliance. Would it have been helpful if he did

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so. People are watching the words too carefully. Since he became

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President a change in the language and a change in the policies from

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what had been discussed during the campaign. We had Vice-President

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Pence at the Munich security conference and meetings with Rex

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Tillerson, the Secretary General calling Trump a few times and

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visiting him at the White House. You had strong support for Nato. A push

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on Nato defence spending. Wouldn't it have been use to have have heard

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that directly from the President? Well, I'm not sure that they didn't

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hear that directly. I think people are parting words too much. What I

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think the President is trying to do though is to keep the focus on

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European contributions and commit am to Nato. The US is under a

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microscope here in the words he uses. We are actually doing the most

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of the Nato efforts and the European allies are not. He is trying to keep

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the focus on them. It's no secret that Nato leaders have been nervous

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about Mr Trump's presidency. When he talks about spending he doesn't pull

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his punches. But take a look at the reaction

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of some of the European leaders If all Nato members had spent

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just 2% of their GDP on defence last year,

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we would have had another $119 billion for our collective

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defence and for the financing They don't like be lectured. That is

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clear from that body language I would say they feel sheepish. They

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have all agreed to these multiple times. They know they are not doing

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it yet. There we are. I think you are right. Good to talk to you.

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Thank you very much for coming on the programme.

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That is Dusko Markovic, the Prime Minister of Montenegro,

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Mr Trump doesn't like being upstaged - and especially not by the newest

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Perhaps he should be in the front row. I'm glad you weren't studying

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your body language during the First Lady and the President during this

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trip. This goes down well with Nato members they want somebody like the

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American President to come in and, I've heard it, saying you have to up

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your defence spending. I think this doesn't go down quite so badly as we

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might think. We now know who died

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in the Manchester attack. There are 10 teenagers

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and children among those who were killed, the youngest

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was just eight-years-old. The memorials are continuing to grow

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and also emerging are some of the heart-rending stories

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of the causalities. They were loved and they are

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mourned. Taken by the bomb, their names keep coming. Elidih MacLeod.

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She was full of nine. 19-year-old courty Boyle described as an amazing

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rock. She went to the concert with her step dad, Philip Tron. He too

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lost his life. Two people gone from one family. Wendy from Leeds. A mum

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and school helper. Said to have touched the lives of so many. In her

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home city today friends and neighbours observed the minute's

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silence, joined by Wendy's relatives. Devastated. She knew a

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lot of people shechl had a lot of friends, family. I think, even

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people who just knew of her, it's just such a tragedy. It's just

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awful. Also named today, Chloe Rutherford and Liam Curry,

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girlfriend and boyfriend, known to be inseparate. They died together.

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Elaine, a police officer who loved music and was on a night out

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off-duty. Flowers have been laid for Elaine who started out as a

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Volunteer Special Constable and rose up to work for the Organised Crime

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Unit. She spent 20 years working for Cheshire Police.

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Her colleagues and friends came in to work to learn that they'd lost

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one of their own. Cheshire's Chief Constable opened a book of

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condolence for the officer. Elaine, from all I've heard, all the best

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traditions about the police service. Somebody who cared about community

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and cared about victims. She left a lasting impression on those who met

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her, both professionally and in victims of crime she helped. The

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families of those killed can hardly take it all in. Charlotte Campbell

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shared her grief at a vigil to mark the loss of her teenage daughter,

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Olivia. This is such a hard time for us. I had to come. I didn't know

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what to do. I don't know where to be. I don't know what to do. I just

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knew, something told me I had to come here. The injured, so many

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injured, have so much to come to terms with, too. 15-year-old Laura

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Anderson has had surgery to remove shrapnel from her leg and shoulder.

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My ears went muffled. Everyone was rushing around me. I was screaming.

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I felt pain in my legs then, I think. 22 killed, more than 100

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injured. We know their names and their Harrowing stories, but we will

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never understand their terrible, unfathomable loss. Judith Moritz,

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BBC News. Manchester still coming to terms with the most terrible

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terrorist attack it had to face. A thoughtful report has come out in

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the last couple of days in the States about how the press should

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cover this kind of attack. It makes the point that actually replaying

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endlessly the loops of the attacks itself is in some ways doing exactly

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what these attackers want us to do. Glorifying their actions in a

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horribly, perverted way. What this report suggests is that one of the

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most useful things we can do is talk about the victims and who they were

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as people and the lives they led and their families. It suggests we

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should talk about the way that communities come together after

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attacks like this. And the acts of kindness that we see and the acts of

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heroism that sometimes follow these when people are acting in desperate

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circumstances. You have come from Manchester. It sounds trite to say

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that cities pull together and we see the best of humanity. The stories

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out of Manchester, I'm sure you heard them, acts of heroism and a

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city pulling together? So many acts of heroism. The eternal dilemma for

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the media how much you focus on the bombing. People want to know and

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understand why someone would do that. Inevitably, because of that,

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you focus on Salman Abedi and where he has come from and who he is with.

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Really, it should be, it must be the victims that are forefront in our

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minds. That square St Ann's Square where I was standing last night.

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Look at that. The flowers now, that has grown that sea of flowers since

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last night. People have come and sung songs there and held hands

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there. They have been lost with their thoughts. It really shows how

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the community has come together. We spoke to someone last night on the

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programme who said, "it does help the families when communities come

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together like that. ." The Great City Games start tomorrow. Help each

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other. They will be around the corner. The greatest athletes in the

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