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Police say he was part of a wider network and four more

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Before Salman Abedi carried out the attack he travelled to Libya -

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Police believe he was not acting alone.

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It's very clear that this is a network that we are investigating,

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as I said it continues at a pace, there's extensive

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Britain's threat level has been raised to critical -

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the highest there is - it means there will be troops

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As the victims are named - each brings a story of tragic loss -

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from young lives cut short to parents who went

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Britain is not happy that intelligence shared with America

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about the attack was leaked to US journalists.

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Officials in the UK say American authorities revealed

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information which could have hindered the investigation.

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Donald Trump goes to the Vatican for what he calls

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These two weren't always so friendly.

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Hi, I'm Christian Fraser in Manchester, Katty

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It is impossible for security services to keep every terrorism

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suspect under surveillance but tonight there are several signs

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that the Manchester bomber was a known cause for concern.

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He travelled to Libya and possibly Syria before the attack.

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Members of his own community tell the BBC they warned authorities

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about him and the French Government says he had proven

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The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, also says the suicide bomber

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was known to the UK intelligence agencies and he probably had

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For the victims and their grieving families, the news is no comfort.

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And this was a horrific violent event, it was more sophisticated

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than some of the events we have seen in the past or in other parts of

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Europe, so people are reasonably wondering whether he did this on his

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own and I am making sure that the police and the intelligence services

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doing that investigation have the support they need to find out who

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might be, have been working with him, because our focus is always

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going to be on making sure we keep people safe. The best way to do that

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is to ensure this operation ends. Here's the Manchester police

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on the investigation. I think it is very clear that this

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is a network we are investigating. It continues as apace. There are in

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destinations going on extensively and taking place across greater

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magister as we speak. Certainly the investigation is moving fast.

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The attacker's father and younger brother were both

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Five more people are being detained in Britain.

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It is now thought Salman Abedi may have been a 'mule' ,

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using a device built by someone else.

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Our special correspondent Ed Thomas has more.

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Suicide bomber Salman Abedi, an extremist who attacked the city of

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his birth. Now investigators surround his home, like everyone

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here, wanting answers. This man knew Abedi. He would watch him come and

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go from Manchester to Libya. Now he can't believe what his neighbour

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did. Unbelievably disgusted, to be honest. For a Muslim, and a Libyan

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as well for. For us, being the law of the country is most important.

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That is what the Prophet teaches us. He was shouting out the Koran in

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Islamic. I don't know the language. The BBC was told a black flag with

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Islamic writing was hung outside his home. Many had no idea what it

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meant. I remember seeing some sort of flag outside. I didn't really

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look at it. Was it English writing? No. A community worker who did not

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want to go on camera told us to separate people who knew Salman

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Abedi at college rang police several years ago. They said he was

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supporting terrorism and had expressed a view that being a

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suicide bomber was OK. Greater magister police will not comment on

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those claims. And what about the Manchester bomber's family? This is

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his brother Hashim now under arrest for is supporting so-called Islamic

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State. This is his father, he's now back home Libya. On his Facebook

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page he praises Al-Qaeda fighters in Syria. Before he left South

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Manchester: we were told he would take part in praise at this mosque.

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He is a guy who announces it. Police now want to know if anyone else what

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Salman Abedi and his father believed. Salman Abedi's father, he

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was in the mosque? Everyone knew him. A good man? He is a good man.

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This man is close to the trustees at Didsbury mosque. Like many he had no

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idea of the family's extremist links will stop we know he is connected to

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extremist fighters in Libya. Groups close to Al-Qaeda. To us it did not

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show. Is that a problem though? That people like yourself, good people,

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don't know who they with? We go back again, the mosque trustees go have

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to do more about that. A lot needs to be done. Tonight, Didsbury mosque

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said Salman Abedi was a coward who has crime had no praise in their

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religion. A man willing to kill and hurt in the city that was once his

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home. No doubt the community has pulled

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together and you can see the number of flowers that have been laid in

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just the last few hours. This is now becoming the focus of the grieving

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here in Manchester. This is the Metropolitan Mayor of Manchester.

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Thank you for being with us. A lot of police activity today. It is very

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noticeable for people in the city. Are you satisfied that they are

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getting to grips with the investigation was to mark yes, I

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have a high degree of confidence in what the police and security

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services have been doing. There has been a huge amount of progress with

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the investigation in the last 24 hours. I am confident that those

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responsible will be hunted down, held to account. I'm also very

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reassured by the police presence that we have in this city right now.

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Really, the response of the public servants of greater Manchester has

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been truly magnificent. It is obviously one of most complex

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investigations Manchester police will perhaps ever undertake. One of

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the things that alarming people is that there was information on Salman

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Abedi that was perhaps missed. A community worker told the BBC today

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that they had alerted the police several years ago to their concerns.

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When the appropriate time cans, people will have to look back at

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what was known in what was not known. I don't think this is

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necessarily the time. But we always have to bear in mind how hard the

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job of security services is. Information is coming in all the

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time. They have foiled many plots in recent times and we have to give

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them our support because they do an incredible job. This individual was

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an extremist, a terrorist, does not represent the Muslim community of

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greater Manchester, and certainly does not represent anybody here in

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greater Manchester. This is the true greater Manchester that we are

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seeing, the spirit that is coming through in these last 48 hours. You

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had a big event here on Friday, -- you've got a big event, can you

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reassure people that you are doing everything you can to protect them?

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Yes, we are working closely with Government the security services.

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The important thing is to get back to normal. That is the easiest

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signal to say we will not be beaten by what is happening. And Manchester

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has always done that, it does not ever back down to anybody and we

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won't be backing down now. We want to bring the city back together. Of

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course people will need to be vigilant but not unduly alarmed.

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There will be a police presence on the street but the best response is

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to come together, be strung together, and said that defiant

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Manchester message out ran the country and the world. That Northern

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spirit is certainly there. The investigation is moving fast.

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The police are saying they arrested a man carrying a suspect package.

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What you know about the latest arrests? We are just hearing of

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another operation going on not far from here which seems to involve

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about 45 police officers and 12 police vans. We are going down there

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to check out what is going on. This afternoon the man arrested in Wigan

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was arrested because he was carrying what seems to be a suspect package.

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We have not heard whether that turned out to be anything or not.

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Then of course there were three men arrested this morning who were

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arrested because they knew the suspect it bomber. That is also out

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of the investigation. Perhaps the most significant is invalid

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development this evening is that the New York Times has published

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photographs of what appears to be the remnants of the bomb from Monday

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night. Some details about that bomb include the suggestion that it seems

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to have been contained in some thin metal container, either in a blue

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backpack or a black vest. And that there was a trigger of some sort in

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the bomber's hands. That is probably the most significant of element as

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we go on air tonight. Intelligence that Americans

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journalists are getting information leaked to them from American

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sources. I am fascinated to know how they got these pictures of the bomb

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that our colleague was just telling us about. The Manchester attack was

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Britain's second terror attack in just two months. And as people

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rallied in London after the Westminster attack, people in

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Manchester are now pulling together. So far we know the names of 13 of

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the 22 people killed. As their names emerged today,

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one thing was inescapable - The carefree tenderness

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of the lives lost. Her family spent yesterday

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frantically searching for her. They learned early today

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that she had died. Her mother, Charlotte,

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posted this message on Facebook. She went to Tarlton Community

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Primary School in Lancashire. This morning, her classmates at

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assembly sang, Don't Stop Believing. Her mother and sister

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are still in hospital. Her warmth and kindness

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will be remembered fondly. Saffie was quiet and unassuming

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with a creative flair. Saffie comes from a close,

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loving family and we can only Marcin and Angelika Klis

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from Poland lived in York. This photograph was taken

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shortly before the attack. They had come to collect

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their daughters from the concert. Their girls lost both

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parents in an instant. I've been a Deirdre

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Barlow super fan. She's always been my

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favourite character. This is Martyn Hett speaking

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to the BBC in 2015. He was 29, gregarious,

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full of enthusiasm. His partner wrote, our wonderful,

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iconic and beautiful Martyn didn't survive -

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he left this world how Kelly Brewster was 32

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and from Sheffield. She died shielding her 11-year-old

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niece from the blast. Her partner wrote, Kelly really

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was the happiest she'd ever been. We had so many things

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planned together. Georgina Callander had

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adored Ariana Grande She was 18 and a second year student

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of health and social care, planning a career committed

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to helping others. John Atkinson, who was 28

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and from Bury, also studied Jane Tweddle-Taylor was a school

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receptionist and a mother of three She was waiting for

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a friend's daughter. She is irreplaceable,

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her colleagues said, bubbly, kind, welcoming,

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funny, generous. Nel Jones was 14 and described

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by her teachers as a bright It feels like the school

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has lost a sister, Her mother and grandmother were

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injured, her grandmother critically. Michelle was married

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with three young children. Her family issued

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a statement saying, family was her life, she has been taken

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from us in the most traumatic way Friends Lisa Lees and Alison Howe

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were waiting for their Both girls survived the blast

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but their mothers died side-by-side. Look into these faces and youth

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and optimism beam back at you. Children, young parents,

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leading normal, blameless lives. after the attack, too many children,

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too many families devastated by the bombing. It is terrible. Not just

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the young victims who we've heard so much about in the last few days, but

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14 of the 22 have now been named, it is a complex thing to name everyone

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who has been killed and that is proceeding. But what we have so far

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our young people who were at the concert but also parents who were

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waiting in the four yay for their children to come out. We all know

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what that is out, those of us who are parents, you go, you get as

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close to the venue as you can hoping you can catch a imp libs of your

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children as they come out, and that is when the bomb went off. Goodness

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knows what must have gone through the minds of the children coming

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out, some of them certainly lost their parents. Some were mothers,

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one case I have read about today was to mothers are standing together who

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were going to pick up their two daughters who went to the concert

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together. It is heartbreaking, but it always is with these attacks.

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There are always stories that touch you. In response to the attack the

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terror threat across Britain has been raised from severe to critical,

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it means is further attack may be imminent and troops have been

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deployed to key locations across the country. Joining me is a senior

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lecturer at the University of Salford, specialising in

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psychotherapy and counselling. We were just talking about some of

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those heart-rending stories. These flowers, and all these people that

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are here tonight, for those who have lost people, does this make a

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difference? I'm sure it must be an incredible comfort to know that

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hundreds of thousands of people are supporting them and entire

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communities are behind them. The thing we know that makes the most

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important difference to people who have experienced trauma is social

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support, which comes from family, friends, colleagues, peers,

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classmates, but also from the wider community. So this must make them

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feel very cared for. How does it change the psychology of the city? I

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am from the north, some of my northern friends said we used to

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think that all terror attacks were focused on London, and they are

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nervous about the tube in London, but now they realise it can happen

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here in the most ordinary place. I am not so sure about this, because

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Manchester was bombed back in 1999. And a lot of people in Manchester

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remember that. What has happened in the last few days has really

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reminded them of that and brought a lot of those memories back. Think a

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lot of people in Manchester had a sense for quite some time that we

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were a potential target, and now this brings it very much alive. I

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think it is possibly going to make it a bit nervous and apprehensive

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for some time to come. Thank you very much. They will be very assured

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a little bit by the police presence in the city, it is very noticeable.

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We haven't seen any soldiers but there are plenty of armed police.

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Well, Christian, here in New York - security is always at the forefront

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Today I spoke with Richard Clarke, who served in multiple

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administrations as a White House counter-terrorism official to get

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Terrorists look at attacks and learn from them. Intelligence services

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also learn from them. When you look at what happened in Manchester, what

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strikes you? It shows us that you can have really good security around

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a venue and in a venue, but there is always that area right in front of

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the venue where people pile up. Whether it is the counters at the

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airport before you go into the security zone, or the area outside

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the concert hall when people are pouring out of the concert Hall. You

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can't secure everything. You can't secure everything, but that is sort

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of the option we are looking at, isn't it? If we want to make people

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save they are will have to have increased security in public venues.

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They will have to have that, but they will also have to get used to

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greater eloquent eczema railings. Here the goal is to catch the

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perpetrators before they put the bomb together. Before they moved to

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the venue. When the bomb is on the way to the venue it is already too

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late. Is Isis hard it to combat them Al-Qaeda was. Archive was

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centralised. Isis shows a way of being decentralised. It is very

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difficult to get these people who are self activated, who turned from

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being just radicalised one minute to being martyrs the next. There are

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reports that this individual travelled, he was of Libyan descent,

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travelled to Libya and perhaps also Syria. Would that raise a red flag

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for you? Certainly the fact that he had gone to Libya and Syria would

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have put him on a watchlist. That list does not mean what people think

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it does. It does not mean there are Scotland Yard guys following him

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around all the time it means he is on an electronic watch list. To

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actually follow someone 24 hours a day takes over 20 people. You can't

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do that when you have ten or 20,000 people on a watch list. So

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realistically, security services in Europe can never track the number of

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people who are potential threats. Security services can never track

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everybody and their watchlist. They can hope that they will find signals

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in electronic media, but they can't possibly know everybody at what they

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are doing. They are just on a watch list, it does not mean they are

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being watched. British officials have made it clear they are not

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happy that some intelligence that was given and shared with American

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counterparts was leaked to US media. How damaging is that kind of

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indiscretion? In this case it was not terribly damaging. American

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officials announced the name of the perpetrator of the Manchester

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bombing before British officials. That is embarrassing, it is a

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slip-up, it should not have happened, but it has no real effect.

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Donald Trump said repeatedly they would drive the terrorist out. Can

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it be done? Driving them out implies using intelligence, military police

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to them. That's fine, but you will do that for ever unless you get to

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the root cause. Which are in some cases socioeconomic, ostracise age

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and, in some cases the ideology and you have to counter that with a buy

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better ideology. That will take years! Yes. We have to live with

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this. After 9/11 President Bush said this will take a generation. And I

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said no, sir, this will take several.

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We will talk more about Manchester and the resignation but let's look

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at the other news today. The Pope wants Donald Trump not

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to pull America out of the Paris As a not perhaps so subtle gift,

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the pontiff gave the President a parting gift of his 2015

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encyclical letter on the We don't know whether Mr Trump

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will be swayed by Francis' argument but he did leave the meeting

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at the Vatican saying Before they went in for their 30

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minute private chat they posed The President at least looks

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very happy to be there. I am joined by a congressman. He

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served as America's ambassador to the Vatican during the Bush

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administration. Do you think there is much the Pope and President Trump

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can agree about? Yes. There is a whole lot they can agree about

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starting with the natural alignment of the United States and the holy

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see as being the two entities in the world that are squarely founded on

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religious freedom and the natural rights of man. We weather people

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that put in place the Government experiment that John Locke wrote

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about. Right, but... You will remember, during the cause of the

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campaign just how much these two disagreed, particularly on the issue

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of the Mexican wall. When it comes to migration, climate change,

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there's not a lot of in common. I think there may be some

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disagreements about climate change but there are disagreements on all

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sides of the issue. Disagreement is actually among scientists as to how

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reliable the models are that were contained in the international

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climate change group 2040 report. The essence of diplomacy is not to

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let your disagreements over come the opportunities to pursue common

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objectives where you are aligned, and we have many of those, the fight

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against Islamic terrorism, the effort to protect Christians in the

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Middle East, to end trafficking of human beings, these are elements

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where there is an enduring partnership and we can work

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together. Would you'll I could President to listen to the Pope and

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keep America in the Paris climate change accord? I would not want to

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give the president advice on what he should do. I think there are so

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many... You are a wise man. There are certainly debates on both sides.

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Thank you for joining me. I'm sorry, we have to leave it there for the

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moment. It was very interesting watching the photographs, they

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looked a little forced I thought going into the meeting. They looked

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much happier coming out. My suspicion is that even the president

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will have gone into the Vatican and been just a little overawed. What do

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you think? I suspect so for stop you know I was a former Rome

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correspondence so I used to report on these meetings are not. There are

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these little codes from the Vatican that tell you where you are in the

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pecking order. I remember in 2007 Tony Blair came to Rome for his last

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visit with the Pope and he was expecting to be given the red carpet

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treatment. If fact he was given short shrift because the Pope, Pope

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Benedict, did not agree with Labour's attitude to game our edge,

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stem cell research, etc. He was rushed round the library and then

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had a very brisk conversation at the end. I experienced some of that

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because I went in to meet the Pope after that and he said,, the BBC!

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And I thought oh no... But actually he listens to the BBC in the Second

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World War so we got on quite well. You are

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