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Police say he was part of a wider network and four more | :00:16. | :00:21. | |
Before Salman Abedi carried out the attack he travelled to Libya - | :00:22. | :00:32. | |
Police believe he was not acting alone. | :00:33. | :00:34. | |
It's very clear that this is a network that we are investigating, | :00:35. | :00:40. | |
as I said it continues at a pace, there's extensive | :00:41. | :00:42. | |
Britain's threat level has been raised to critical - | :00:43. | :00:46. | |
the highest there is - it means there will be troops | :00:47. | :00:48. | |
As the victims are named - each brings a story of tragic loss - | :00:49. | :00:53. | |
from young lives cut short to parents who went | :00:54. | :00:55. | |
Britain is not happy that intelligence shared with America | :00:56. | :01:03. | |
about the attack was leaked to US journalists. | :01:04. | :01:06. | |
Officials in the UK say American authorities revealed | :01:07. | :01:08. | |
information which could have hindered the investigation. | :01:09. | :01:12. | |
Donald Trump goes to the Vatican for what he calls | :01:13. | :01:16. | |
These two weren't always so friendly. | :01:17. | :01:30. | |
Hi, I'm Christian Fraser in Manchester, Katty | :01:31. | :01:36. | |
It is impossible for security services to keep every terrorism | :01:37. | :01:41. | |
suspect under surveillance but tonight there are several signs | :01:42. | :01:45. | |
that the Manchester bomber was a known cause for concern. | :01:46. | :01:48. | |
He travelled to Libya and possibly Syria before the attack. | :01:49. | :01:51. | |
Members of his own community tell the BBC they warned authorities | :01:52. | :01:54. | |
about him and the French Government says he had proven | :01:55. | :01:56. | |
The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, also says the suicide bomber | :01:57. | :02:06. | |
was known to the UK intelligence agencies and he probably had | :02:07. | :02:08. | |
For the victims and their grieving families, the news is no comfort. | :02:09. | :02:19. | |
And this was a horrific violent event, it was more sophisticated | :02:20. | :02:26. | |
than some of the events we have seen in the past or in other parts of | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
Europe, so people are reasonably wondering whether he did this on his | :02:31. | :02:35. | |
own and I am making sure that the police and the intelligence services | :02:36. | :02:37. | |
doing that investigation have the support they need to find out who | :02:38. | :02:43. | |
might be, have been working with him, because our focus is always | :02:44. | :02:49. | |
going to be on making sure we keep people safe. The best way to do that | :02:50. | :02:51. | |
is to ensure this operation ends. Here's the Manchester police | :02:52. | :02:53. | |
on the investigation. I think it is very clear that this | :02:54. | :03:04. | |
is a network we are investigating. It continues as apace. There are in | :03:05. | :03:10. | |
destinations going on extensively and taking place across greater | :03:11. | :03:17. | |
magister as we speak. Certainly the investigation is moving fast. | :03:18. | :03:18. | |
The attacker's father and younger brother were both | :03:19. | :03:20. | |
Five more people are being detained in Britain. | :03:21. | :03:24. | |
It is now thought Salman Abedi may have been a 'mule' , | :03:25. | :03:27. | |
using a device built by someone else. | :03:28. | :03:28. | |
Our special correspondent Ed Thomas has more. | :03:29. | :03:36. | |
Suicide bomber Salman Abedi, an extremist who attacked the city of | :03:37. | :03:43. | |
his birth. Now investigators surround his home, like everyone | :03:44. | :03:49. | |
here, wanting answers. This man knew Abedi. He would watch him come and | :03:50. | :03:54. | |
go from Manchester to Libya. Now he can't believe what his neighbour | :03:55. | :04:01. | |
did. Unbelievably disgusted, to be honest. For a Muslim, and a Libyan | :04:02. | :04:15. | |
as well for. For us, being the law of the country is most important. | :04:16. | :04:23. | |
That is what the Prophet teaches us. He was shouting out the Koran in | :04:24. | :04:28. | |
Islamic. I don't know the language. The BBC was told a black flag with | :04:29. | :04:31. | |
Islamic writing was hung outside his home. Many had no idea what it | :04:32. | :04:35. | |
meant. I remember seeing some sort of flag outside. I didn't really | :04:36. | :04:41. | |
look at it. Was it English writing? No. A community worker who did not | :04:42. | :04:46. | |
want to go on camera told us to separate people who knew Salman | :04:47. | :04:50. | |
Abedi at college rang police several years ago. They said he was | :04:51. | :04:54. | |
supporting terrorism and had expressed a view that being a | :04:55. | :04:57. | |
suicide bomber was OK. Greater magister police will not comment on | :04:58. | :05:03. | |
those claims. And what about the Manchester bomber's family? This is | :05:04. | :05:09. | |
his brother Hashim now under arrest for is supporting so-called Islamic | :05:10. | :05:17. | |
State. This is his father, he's now back home Libya. On his Facebook | :05:18. | :05:24. | |
page he praises Al-Qaeda fighters in Syria. Before he left South | :05:25. | :05:27. | |
Manchester: we were told he would take part in praise at this mosque. | :05:28. | :05:36. | |
He is a guy who announces it. Police now want to know if anyone else what | :05:37. | :05:40. | |
Salman Abedi and his father believed. Salman Abedi's father, he | :05:41. | :05:49. | |
was in the mosque? Everyone knew him. A good man? He is a good man. | :05:50. | :05:56. | |
This man is close to the trustees at Didsbury mosque. Like many he had no | :05:57. | :05:59. | |
idea of the family's extremist links will stop we know he is connected to | :06:00. | :06:04. | |
extremist fighters in Libya. Groups close to Al-Qaeda. To us it did not | :06:05. | :06:17. | |
show. Is that a problem though? That people like yourself, good people, | :06:18. | :06:25. | |
don't know who they with? We go back again, the mosque trustees go have | :06:26. | :06:32. | |
to do more about that. A lot needs to be done. Tonight, Didsbury mosque | :06:33. | :06:37. | |
said Salman Abedi was a coward who has crime had no praise in their | :06:38. | :06:41. | |
religion. A man willing to kill and hurt in the city that was once his | :06:42. | :06:43. | |
home. No doubt the community has pulled | :06:44. | :06:53. | |
together and you can see the number of flowers that have been laid in | :06:54. | :06:57. | |
just the last few hours. This is now becoming the focus of the grieving | :06:58. | :07:03. | |
here in Manchester. This is the Metropolitan Mayor of Manchester. | :07:04. | :07:06. | |
Thank you for being with us. A lot of police activity today. It is very | :07:07. | :07:10. | |
noticeable for people in the city. Are you satisfied that they are | :07:11. | :07:12. | |
getting to grips with the investigation was to mark yes, I | :07:13. | :07:17. | |
have a high degree of confidence in what the police and security | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
services have been doing. There has been a huge amount of progress with | :07:22. | :07:24. | |
the investigation in the last 24 hours. I am confident that those | :07:25. | :07:28. | |
responsible will be hunted down, held to account. I'm also very | :07:29. | :07:31. | |
reassured by the police presence that we have in this city right now. | :07:32. | :07:37. | |
Really, the response of the public servants of greater Manchester has | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
been truly magnificent. It is obviously one of most complex | :07:42. | :07:44. | |
investigations Manchester police will perhaps ever undertake. One of | :07:45. | :07:49. | |
the things that alarming people is that there was information on Salman | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
Abedi that was perhaps missed. A community worker told the BBC today | :07:54. | :07:58. | |
that they had alerted the police several years ago to their concerns. | :07:59. | :08:03. | |
When the appropriate time cans, people will have to look back at | :08:04. | :08:06. | |
what was known in what was not known. I don't think this is | :08:07. | :08:09. | |
necessarily the time. But we always have to bear in mind how hard the | :08:10. | :08:13. | |
job of security services is. Information is coming in all the | :08:14. | :08:18. | |
time. They have foiled many plots in recent times and we have to give | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
them our support because they do an incredible job. This individual was | :08:23. | :08:28. | |
an extremist, a terrorist, does not represent the Muslim community of | :08:29. | :08:32. | |
greater Manchester, and certainly does not represent anybody here in | :08:33. | :08:37. | |
greater Manchester. This is the true greater Manchester that we are | :08:38. | :08:39. | |
seeing, the spirit that is coming through in these last 48 hours. You | :08:40. | :08:47. | |
had a big event here on Friday, -- you've got a big event, can you | :08:48. | :08:52. | |
reassure people that you are doing everything you can to protect them? | :08:53. | :08:56. | |
Yes, we are working closely with Government the security services. | :08:57. | :09:00. | |
The important thing is to get back to normal. That is the easiest | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
signal to say we will not be beaten by what is happening. And Manchester | :09:06. | :09:09. | |
has always done that, it does not ever back down to anybody and we | :09:10. | :09:13. | |
won't be backing down now. We want to bring the city back together. Of | :09:14. | :09:18. | |
course people will need to be vigilant but not unduly alarmed. | :09:19. | :09:19. | |
There will be a police presence on the street but the best response is | :09:20. | :09:23. | |
to come together, be strung together, and said that defiant | :09:24. | :09:27. | |
Manchester message out ran the country and the world. That Northern | :09:28. | :09:29. | |
spirit is certainly there. The investigation is moving fast. | :09:30. | :09:53. | |
The police are saying they arrested a man carrying a suspect package. | :09:54. | :09:56. | |
What you know about the latest arrests? We are just hearing of | :09:57. | :10:02. | |
another operation going on not far from here which seems to involve | :10:03. | :10:06. | |
about 45 police officers and 12 police vans. We are going down there | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
to check out what is going on. This afternoon the man arrested in Wigan | :10:11. | :10:15. | |
was arrested because he was carrying what seems to be a suspect package. | :10:16. | :10:18. | |
We have not heard whether that turned out to be anything or not. | :10:19. | :10:23. | |
Then of course there were three men arrested this morning who were | :10:24. | :10:27. | |
arrested because they knew the suspect it bomber. That is also out | :10:28. | :10:33. | |
of the investigation. Perhaps the most significant is invalid | :10:34. | :10:38. | |
development this evening is that the New York Times has published | :10:39. | :10:40. | |
photographs of what appears to be the remnants of the bomb from Monday | :10:41. | :10:46. | |
night. Some details about that bomb include the suggestion that it seems | :10:47. | :10:50. | |
to have been contained in some thin metal container, either in a blue | :10:51. | :10:56. | |
backpack or a black vest. And that there was a trigger of some sort in | :10:57. | :11:01. | |
the bomber's hands. That is probably the most significant of element as | :11:02. | :11:02. | |
we go on air tonight. Intelligence that Americans | :11:03. | :11:21. | |
journalists are getting information leaked to them from American | :11:22. | :11:24. | |
sources. I am fascinated to know how they got these pictures of the bomb | :11:25. | :11:29. | |
that our colleague was just telling us about. The Manchester attack was | :11:30. | :11:34. | |
Britain's second terror attack in just two months. And as people | :11:35. | :11:40. | |
rallied in London after the Westminster attack, people in | :11:41. | :11:43. | |
Manchester are now pulling together. So far we know the names of 13 of | :11:44. | :11:46. | |
the 22 people killed. As their names emerged today, | :11:47. | :11:57. | |
one thing was inescapable - The carefree tenderness | :11:58. | :11:59. | |
of the lives lost. Her family spent yesterday | :12:00. | :12:11. | |
frantically searching for her. They learned early today | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
that she had died. Her mother, Charlotte, | :12:16. | :12:18. | |
posted this message on Facebook. She went to Tarlton Community | :12:19. | :12:33. | |
Primary School in Lancashire. This morning, her classmates at | :12:34. | :12:36. | |
assembly sang, Don't Stop Believing. Her mother and sister | :12:37. | :12:40. | |
are still in hospital. Her warmth and kindness | :12:41. | :12:42. | |
will be remembered fondly. Saffie was quiet and unassuming | :12:43. | :12:49. | |
with a creative flair. Saffie comes from a close, | :12:50. | :12:54. | |
loving family and we can only Marcin and Angelika Klis | :12:55. | :12:57. | |
from Poland lived in York. This photograph was taken | :12:58. | :13:04. | |
shortly before the attack. They had come to collect | :13:05. | :13:07. | |
their daughters from the concert. Their girls lost both | :13:08. | :13:11. | |
parents in an instant. I've been a Deirdre | :13:12. | :13:15. | |
Barlow super fan. She's always been my | :13:16. | :13:17. | |
favourite character. This is Martyn Hett speaking | :13:18. | :13:19. | |
to the BBC in 2015. He was 29, gregarious, | :13:20. | :13:22. | |
full of enthusiasm. His partner wrote, our wonderful, | :13:23. | :13:27. | |
iconic and beautiful Martyn didn't survive - | :13:28. | :13:35. | |
he left this world how Kelly Brewster was 32 | :13:36. | :13:38. | |
and from Sheffield. She died shielding her 11-year-old | :13:39. | :13:40. | |
niece from the blast. Her partner wrote, Kelly really | :13:41. | :13:45. | |
was the happiest she'd ever been. We had so many things | :13:46. | :13:47. | |
planned together. Georgina Callander had | :13:48. | :13:52. | |
adored Ariana Grande She was 18 and a second year student | :13:53. | :13:54. | |
of health and social care, planning a career committed | :13:55. | :14:08. | |
to helping others. John Atkinson, who was 28 | :14:09. | :14:10. | |
and from Bury, also studied Jane Tweddle-Taylor was a school | :14:11. | :14:12. | |
receptionist and a mother of three She was waiting for | :14:13. | :14:19. | |
a friend's daughter. She is irreplaceable, | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
her colleagues said, bubbly, kind, welcoming, | :14:24. | :14:25. | |
funny, generous. Nel Jones was 14 and described | :14:26. | :14:29. | |
by her teachers as a bright It feels like the school | :14:30. | :14:32. | |
has lost a sister, Her mother and grandmother were | :14:33. | :14:38. | |
injured, her grandmother critically. Michelle was married | :14:39. | :14:48. | |
with three young children. Her family issued | :14:49. | :14:56. | |
a statement saying, family was her life, she has been taken | :14:57. | :14:57. | |
from us in the most traumatic way Friends Lisa Lees and Alison Howe | :14:58. | :15:01. | |
were waiting for their Both girls survived the blast | :15:02. | :15:05. | |
but their mothers died side-by-side. Look into these faces and youth | :15:06. | :15:14. | |
and optimism beam back at you. Children, young parents, | :15:15. | :15:19. | |
leading normal, blameless lives. after the attack, too many children, | :15:20. | :15:41. | |
too many families devastated by the bombing. It is terrible. Not just | :15:42. | :15:47. | |
the young victims who we've heard so much about in the last few days, but | :15:48. | :15:53. | |
14 of the 22 have now been named, it is a complex thing to name everyone | :15:54. | :15:57. | |
who has been killed and that is proceeding. But what we have so far | :15:58. | :16:01. | |
our young people who were at the concert but also parents who were | :16:02. | :16:04. | |
waiting in the four yay for their children to come out. We all know | :16:05. | :16:09. | |
what that is out, those of us who are parents, you go, you get as | :16:10. | :16:12. | |
close to the venue as you can hoping you can catch a imp libs of your | :16:13. | :16:16. | |
children as they come out, and that is when the bomb went off. Goodness | :16:17. | :16:19. | |
knows what must have gone through the minds of the children coming | :16:20. | :16:23. | |
out, some of them certainly lost their parents. Some were mothers, | :16:24. | :16:28. | |
one case I have read about today was to mothers are standing together who | :16:29. | :16:31. | |
were going to pick up their two daughters who went to the concert | :16:32. | :16:35. | |
together. It is heartbreaking, but it always is with these attacks. | :16:36. | :16:39. | |
There are always stories that touch you. In response to the attack the | :16:40. | :16:43. | |
terror threat across Britain has been raised from severe to critical, | :16:44. | :16:46. | |
it means is further attack may be imminent and troops have been | :16:47. | :16:49. | |
deployed to key locations across the country. Joining me is a senior | :16:50. | :16:56. | |
lecturer at the University of Salford, specialising in | :16:57. | :16:59. | |
psychotherapy and counselling. We were just talking about some of | :17:00. | :17:05. | |
those heart-rending stories. These flowers, and all these people that | :17:06. | :17:08. | |
are here tonight, for those who have lost people, does this make a | :17:09. | :17:13. | |
difference? I'm sure it must be an incredible comfort to know that | :17:14. | :17:16. | |
hundreds of thousands of people are supporting them and entire | :17:17. | :17:20. | |
communities are behind them. The thing we know that makes the most | :17:21. | :17:24. | |
important difference to people who have experienced trauma is social | :17:25. | :17:29. | |
support, which comes from family, friends, colleagues, peers, | :17:30. | :17:32. | |
classmates, but also from the wider community. So this must make them | :17:33. | :17:36. | |
feel very cared for. How does it change the psychology of the city? I | :17:37. | :17:40. | |
am from the north, some of my northern friends said we used to | :17:41. | :17:44. | |
think that all terror attacks were focused on London, and they are | :17:45. | :17:47. | |
nervous about the tube in London, but now they realise it can happen | :17:48. | :17:51. | |
here in the most ordinary place. I am not so sure about this, because | :17:52. | :17:58. | |
Manchester was bombed back in 1999. And a lot of people in Manchester | :17:59. | :18:02. | |
remember that. What has happened in the last few days has really | :18:03. | :18:05. | |
reminded them of that and brought a lot of those memories back. Think a | :18:06. | :18:08. | |
lot of people in Manchester had a sense for quite some time that we | :18:09. | :18:12. | |
were a potential target, and now this brings it very much alive. I | :18:13. | :18:18. | |
think it is possibly going to make it a bit nervous and apprehensive | :18:19. | :18:21. | |
for some time to come. Thank you very much. They will be very assured | :18:22. | :18:26. | |
a little bit by the police presence in the city, it is very noticeable. | :18:27. | :18:30. | |
We haven't seen any soldiers but there are plenty of armed police. | :18:31. | :18:32. | |
Well, Christian, here in New York - security is always at the forefront | :18:33. | :18:35. | |
Today I spoke with Richard Clarke, who served in multiple | :18:36. | :18:38. | |
administrations as a White House counter-terrorism official to get | :18:39. | :18:40. | |
Terrorists look at attacks and learn from them. Intelligence services | :18:41. | :18:52. | |
also learn from them. When you look at what happened in Manchester, what | :18:53. | :18:58. | |
strikes you? It shows us that you can have really good security around | :18:59. | :19:03. | |
a venue and in a venue, but there is always that area right in front of | :19:04. | :19:08. | |
the venue where people pile up. Whether it is the counters at the | :19:09. | :19:12. | |
airport before you go into the security zone, or the area outside | :19:13. | :19:16. | |
the concert hall when people are pouring out of the concert Hall. You | :19:17. | :19:22. | |
can't secure everything. You can't secure everything, but that is sort | :19:23. | :19:26. | |
of the option we are looking at, isn't it? If we want to make people | :19:27. | :19:30. | |
save they are will have to have increased security in public venues. | :19:31. | :19:35. | |
They will have to have that, but they will also have to get used to | :19:36. | :19:40. | |
greater eloquent eczema railings. Here the goal is to catch the | :19:41. | :19:44. | |
perpetrators before they put the bomb together. Before they moved to | :19:45. | :19:48. | |
the venue. When the bomb is on the way to the venue it is already too | :19:49. | :19:53. | |
late. Is Isis hard it to combat them Al-Qaeda was. Archive was | :19:54. | :19:59. | |
centralised. Isis shows a way of being decentralised. It is very | :20:00. | :20:02. | |
difficult to get these people who are self activated, who turned from | :20:03. | :20:06. | |
being just radicalised one minute to being martyrs the next. There are | :20:07. | :20:13. | |
reports that this individual travelled, he was of Libyan descent, | :20:14. | :20:17. | |
travelled to Libya and perhaps also Syria. Would that raise a red flag | :20:18. | :20:21. | |
for you? Certainly the fact that he had gone to Libya and Syria would | :20:22. | :20:25. | |
have put him on a watchlist. That list does not mean what people think | :20:26. | :20:29. | |
it does. It does not mean there are Scotland Yard guys following him | :20:30. | :20:32. | |
around all the time it means he is on an electronic watch list. To | :20:33. | :20:39. | |
actually follow someone 24 hours a day takes over 20 people. You can't | :20:40. | :20:44. | |
do that when you have ten or 20,000 people on a watch list. So | :20:45. | :20:49. | |
realistically, security services in Europe can never track the number of | :20:50. | :20:53. | |
people who are potential threats. Security services can never track | :20:54. | :20:57. | |
everybody and their watchlist. They can hope that they will find signals | :20:58. | :21:02. | |
in electronic media, but they can't possibly know everybody at what they | :21:03. | :21:07. | |
are doing. They are just on a watch list, it does not mean they are | :21:08. | :21:10. | |
being watched. British officials have made it clear they are not | :21:11. | :21:13. | |
happy that some intelligence that was given and shared with American | :21:14. | :21:17. | |
counterparts was leaked to US media. How damaging is that kind of | :21:18. | :21:24. | |
indiscretion? In this case it was not terribly damaging. American | :21:25. | :21:27. | |
officials announced the name of the perpetrator of the Manchester | :21:28. | :21:31. | |
bombing before British officials. That is embarrassing, it is a | :21:32. | :21:34. | |
slip-up, it should not have happened, but it has no real effect. | :21:35. | :21:39. | |
Donald Trump said repeatedly they would drive the terrorist out. Can | :21:40. | :21:46. | |
it be done? Driving them out implies using intelligence, military police | :21:47. | :21:50. | |
to them. That's fine, but you will do that for ever unless you get to | :21:51. | :21:56. | |
the root cause. Which are in some cases socioeconomic, ostracise age | :21:57. | :22:01. | |
and, in some cases the ideology and you have to counter that with a buy | :22:02. | :22:05. | |
better ideology. That will take years! Yes. We have to live with | :22:06. | :22:13. | |
this. After 9/11 President Bush said this will take a generation. And I | :22:14. | :22:16. | |
said no, sir, this will take several. | :22:17. | :22:20. | |
We will talk more about Manchester and the resignation but let's look | :22:21. | :22:24. | |
at the other news today. The Pope wants Donald Trump not | :22:25. | :22:25. | |
to pull America out of the Paris As a not perhaps so subtle gift, | :22:26. | :22:28. | |
the pontiff gave the President a parting gift of his 2015 | :22:29. | :22:32. | |
encyclical letter on the We don't know whether Mr Trump | :22:33. | :22:34. | |
will be swayed by Francis' argument but he did leave the meeting | :22:35. | :22:41. | |
at the Vatican saying Before they went in for their 30 | :22:42. | :22:44. | |
minute private chat they posed The President at least looks | :22:45. | :22:49. | |
very happy to be there. I am joined by a congressman. He | :22:50. | :23:04. | |
served as America's ambassador to the Vatican during the Bush | :23:05. | :23:07. | |
administration. Do you think there is much the Pope and President Trump | :23:08. | :23:11. | |
can agree about? Yes. There is a whole lot they can agree about | :23:12. | :23:16. | |
starting with the natural alignment of the United States and the holy | :23:17. | :23:20. | |
see as being the two entities in the world that are squarely founded on | :23:21. | :23:24. | |
religious freedom and the natural rights of man. We weather people | :23:25. | :23:28. | |
that put in place the Government experiment that John Locke wrote | :23:29. | :23:36. | |
about. Right, but... You will remember, during the cause of the | :23:37. | :23:39. | |
campaign just how much these two disagreed, particularly on the issue | :23:40. | :23:45. | |
of the Mexican wall. When it comes to migration, climate change, | :23:46. | :23:48. | |
there's not a lot of in common. I think there may be some | :23:49. | :23:51. | |
disagreements about climate change but there are disagreements on all | :23:52. | :23:56. | |
sides of the issue. Disagreement is actually among scientists as to how | :23:57. | :24:00. | |
reliable the models are that were contained in the international | :24:01. | :24:06. | |
climate change group 2040 report. The essence of diplomacy is not to | :24:07. | :24:09. | |
let your disagreements over come the opportunities to pursue common | :24:10. | :24:13. | |
objectives where you are aligned, and we have many of those, the fight | :24:14. | :24:17. | |
against Islamic terrorism, the effort to protect Christians in the | :24:18. | :24:21. | |
Middle East, to end trafficking of human beings, these are elements | :24:22. | :24:27. | |
where there is an enduring partnership and we can work | :24:28. | :24:29. | |
together. Would you'll I could President to listen to the Pope and | :24:30. | :24:32. | |
keep America in the Paris climate change accord? I would not want to | :24:33. | :24:38. | |
give the president advice on what he should do. I think there are so | :24:39. | :24:48. | |
many... You are a wise man. There are certainly debates on both sides. | :24:49. | :24:52. | |
Thank you for joining me. I'm sorry, we have to leave it there for the | :24:53. | :24:56. | |
moment. It was very interesting watching the photographs, they | :24:57. | :24:58. | |
looked a little forced I thought going into the meeting. They looked | :24:59. | :25:02. | |
much happier coming out. My suspicion is that even the president | :25:03. | :25:06. | |
will have gone into the Vatican and been just a little overawed. What do | :25:07. | :25:13. | |
you think? I suspect so for stop you know I was a former Rome | :25:14. | :25:17. | |
correspondence so I used to report on these meetings are not. There are | :25:18. | :25:21. | |
these little codes from the Vatican that tell you where you are in the | :25:22. | :25:26. | |
pecking order. I remember in 2007 Tony Blair came to Rome for his last | :25:27. | :25:29. | |
visit with the Pope and he was expecting to be given the red carpet | :25:30. | :25:33. | |
treatment. If fact he was given short shrift because the Pope, Pope | :25:34. | :25:38. | |
Benedict, did not agree with Labour's attitude to game our edge, | :25:39. | :25:42. | |
stem cell research, etc. He was rushed round the library and then | :25:43. | :25:48. | |
had a very brisk conversation at the end. I experienced some of that | :25:49. | :25:51. | |
because I went in to meet the Pope after that and he said,, the BBC! | :25:52. | :25:59. | |
And I thought oh no... But actually he listens to the BBC in the Second | :26:00. | :26:04. | |
World War so we got on quite well. You are | :26:05. | :26:08. |