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Across the region, other families are still awaiting news | :00:12. | :00:13. | |
Among them, 15-year-old Olivia Campbell from Ramsbottom. | :00:14. | :00:23. | |
Alison Howe and Lisa Lees, two mums from Royton who'd gone | :00:24. | :00:26. | |
to pick up their children from the arena. | :00:27. | :00:28. | |
And 29-year-old Martin Hett from Stockport. | :00:29. | :00:30. | |
His family's been unable to contact him since the concert. | :00:31. | :00:32. | |
Anyone worried a relative could have been caught up in the attack should | :00:33. | :00:35. | |
call Greater Manchester Police on 0800 096 0095. | :00:36. | :01:37. | |
The full horror of the atrocity became apparent around | :01:38. | :01:39. | |
Thousands of Ariana Granda fans pouring out of the Arena. | :01:40. | :01:42. | |
Jubilation from the concert turned to devastation at the doorway. | :01:43. | :01:45. | |
It was a scene of panic and confusion, death and horror | :01:46. | :01:47. | |
One of the first reporters there was Clare Fallon - | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
17,000 people inside the arena, from the details we have been given, it | :01:52. | :01:56. | |
seems like this was an attack that was designed to cause maximum | :01:57. | :01:58. | |
devastation, designed to kill as many people as possible and I say | :01:59. | :02:01. | |
that because of the timing. This man didn't make it into the arena | :02:02. | :02:06. | |
itself, he was in the lobby, he waited for the concert to come to an | :02:07. | :02:09. | |
end, for people to begin pouring out to go home. Of course, some of those | :02:10. | :02:15. | |
people did not make it home because of the attack. | :02:16. | :02:19. | |
Oh, my God. What's going on? | :02:20. | :02:45. | |
The sound of fear filled the arena as people ran. | :02:46. | :02:47. | |
And the enormity of what had happened soon became clear. | :02:48. | :02:51. | |
Did you get a sense of what it was, it was an explosion? | :02:52. | :02:55. | |
Yes, definitely an explosion, because there's nuts | :02:56. | :03:02. | |
Yeah, there are nuts and bolts everywhere. | :03:03. | :03:06. | |
So you think this was some kind of deliberate... | :03:07. | :03:08. | |
Yes, of course it was. Not accidental. | :03:09. | :03:10. | |
As we were coming out the door, we just heard | :03:11. | :03:13. | |
And then, what, you ran? We just ran, yeah. | :03:14. | :03:16. | |
With so many people hurt - some of them catastrophically - | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
inside the arena and Victoria station, | :03:21. | :03:22. | |
Having seen things no adult - let alone child - should ever see, | :03:23. | :03:27. | |
Amelia told me she's one of the lucky ones. | :03:28. | :03:29. | |
Suddenly, like, something really hot just flew over us | :03:30. | :03:31. | |
and my mum and my sister and we all, like, | :03:32. | :03:37. | |
22 people were killed near the entrance. Nearly 60 were injured. | :03:38. | :04:12. | |
Suddenly, a massive/. Small. I had to live my wife down on the floor. | :04:13. | :04:20. | |
She has had a bruise under her chin. And she has probably broken her | :04:21. | :04:28. | |
femur in her left leg. Something really hot just flew over others and | :04:29. | :04:32. | |
landed behind me and my mum and my sister and then we all dropped to | :04:33. | :04:37. | |
the floor but then my mum told me that they were behind us so then we | :04:38. | :04:41. | |
ran out but then I realised they weren't so I ran back in and shouted | :04:42. | :04:45. | |
on my mum but I could not hear anything because my year was blocked | :04:46. | :04:49. | |
and it was just really scary. All I could hear was screaming, people | :04:50. | :04:52. | |
crying. Everyone was just running everywhere. Completely random. | :04:53. | :04:59. | |
Before the night was over, the police knew they were dealing with | :05:00. | :05:04. | |
an attack by a suicide bomber with a home-made explosive device, packed | :05:05. | :05:07. | |
with metal fragments. It was a deliberate attack on children and | :05:08. | :05:12. | |
young people. Time when parents were waiting to pick up their sons and | :05:13. | :05:18. | |
daughters. During the night, specialist teams were brought in. | :05:19. | :05:25. | |
400 police officers were deployed along with forensic teams. Early on, | :05:26. | :05:29. | |
police appeared to know the identity of the bomber. Then, within the last | :05:30. | :05:35. | |
hour, an update. I can confirm that the man suspected of carrying out | :05:36. | :05:42. | |
last night's atrocity is 22-year-olds Salman Abede. However, | :05:43. | :05:46. | |
he has not yet been formally named by the coroner and therefore I would | :05:47. | :05:49. | |
not wish to comment further about him at this stage. And on the | :05:50. | :05:55. | |
streets, survivors, reliving a concert that ended in fear and | :05:56. | :05:58. | |
murder. This is Helen and Isabella. We hit the corridors when we saw | :05:59. | :06:04. | |
masses of people running in absolute terror and panic to get out of the | :06:05. | :06:12. | |
place. Young teenage children, 14, 15. There were mothers with | :06:13. | :06:16. | |
children, carrying them on their shoulder. There were people with | :06:17. | :06:24. | |
wheelchairs, panicking to get out. Laura and Isabella's concert ended a | :06:25. | :06:31. | |
case -- a chaotic search for the exits. We do is run. I do not know | :06:32. | :06:34. | |
where we came out of, but we just ran. Parents had to get home so they | :06:35. | :06:44. | |
were very scared obviously because they were on their own. Manchester | :06:45. | :06:51. | |
has been a city on edge today, shaken by alerts and rumours and a | :06:52. | :06:59. | |
shopping centre evacuated. It is now beyond doubt that the people of | :07:00. | :07:02. | |
Manchester and this country have followed victim to a callous | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
terrorist attack. An attack that targeted some of the youngest people | :07:08. | :07:10. | |
in our society with cold calculation. This was among the | :07:11. | :07:17. | |
worst terrorist incidents we have ever experienced in the United | :07:18. | :07:22. | |
Kingdom. During the day, police raided a number of houses. A | :07:23. | :07:26. | |
22-year-old man was arrested in connection with yesterday's bomb | :07:27. | :07:31. | |
attack. And attack had long been feared. Preventing a determined | :07:32. | :07:37. | |
suicide bomber is incredibly difficult. The priority for the | :07:38. | :07:39. | |
police will be to discover everything they can about this man, | :07:40. | :07:43. | |
whether he is part of a wider network and whether there is a risk | :07:44. | :07:44. | |
of further attacks. Off the back of it... Yes, well, of | :07:45. | :07:56. | |
course, the police investigation has been going on throughout the day to | :07:57. | :07:59. | |
try and establish exactly what happened. We now know the name of | :08:00. | :08:12. | |
the bomber, This eight child one -- was among those killed. It was an | :08:13. | :08:19. | |
attack directed at innocence. Well, we saw the very worst of humanity | :08:20. | :08:23. | |
here last night, but we are seeing the best of humanity in Manchester | :08:24. | :08:27. | |
since the attack. It is not just the way people responded that the | :08:28. | :08:30. | |
response has been extraordinary, it is people offering to give people a | :08:31. | :08:33. | |
little more a room or some hotel space or even a mobile phone to call | :08:34. | :08:37. | |
parents because there were so many children last night you were | :08:38. | :08:39. | |
separated from their parents in the panic, but it was also the | :08:40. | :08:43. | |
professionalism and the speed with which the emergency services | :08:44. | :08:46. | |
responded, because they were up those steps last night within | :08:47. | :08:50. | |
minutes. And it was perfectly possible to imagine that there would | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
be a second attack. Most people were fleeing the Syria to get away from a | :08:55. | :08:58. | |
secondary device. The emergency services were running into it and | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
into what they did not know. So their bravery really has been | :09:03. | :09:05. | |
commended today and I have just come from Albert Square were there was a | :09:06. | :09:08. | |
vigil this evening and a loud round of applause was for the men and | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
women who tended to the injured inside the Fourier. And I think the | :09:13. | :09:17. | |
other thing to say is the police and the way they have responded. Of | :09:18. | :09:21. | |
course, there is a very active forensic investigation underway. | :09:22. | :09:28. | |
Here at the arena. But also into the background of this Salman Abede, a | :09:29. | :09:33. | |
young man who may have connections to Libya. They are obviously looking | :09:34. | :09:37. | |
into his background because although it may well have been a crude | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
home-made device, there was an element of sophistication, certainly | :09:42. | :09:44. | |
in the planning and perhaps in the construction of the bomb, so what | :09:45. | :09:47. | |
they want to know is whether he was acting alone, whether you're blurred | :09:48. | :09:50. | |
those skills to make the bomb, or was he, and this is the worst-case | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
scenario, what he supplied that one ad is there a bomb maker that is | :09:56. | :10:00. | |
still at large that the police need to find. Clearly, this is going to | :10:01. | :10:02. | |
be a long investigation and for every parents of daughters who are | :10:03. | :10:07. | |
about that age and you love Ariana Grande, we know how many children | :10:08. | :10:12. | |
and parents have been affected by this, including the singer herself, | :10:13. | :10:16. | |
22-year-old Ariana Grande says that she was broken by the attack. The | :10:17. | :10:20. | |
rest of her European shows have now been suspended. 60 ambulances went | :10:21. | :10:24. | |
to Manchester Arena after the attack and those wooded are being treated | :10:25. | :10:27. | |
at eight hospitals around the city. We are now starting to get a picture | :10:28. | :10:31. | |
of the people who are caught up in it. Our special correspondence has | :10:32. | :10:33. | |
this report on the victims of terror. | :10:34. | :10:57. | |
This teenager idolise Ariana Grande. This was when she met her in 2015. | :10:58. | :11:02. | |
This afternoon, a college in Leyland said our thoughts and prayers go out | :11:03. | :11:05. | |
to all of Georgina's family friends and all of those affected by this | :11:06. | :11:10. | |
loss. And the latest of the 22 who died to be named, John Atkinson from | :11:11. | :11:15. | |
Bury. Friends said the 28-year-old was an amazing young man. In | :11:16. | :11:24. | |
Manchester, they are also remembering the injured. 59 people | :11:25. | :11:28. | |
were taken to hospital. It is not 12 of the casualties are children under | :11:29. | :11:33. | |
16. Clearly, there are a number of individuals who have very serious | :11:34. | :11:37. | |
injuries and requiring intensive care. And people are going to be in | :11:38. | :11:45. | |
hospital a long time. Some families are still waiting to hear from loved | :11:46. | :11:49. | |
ones. People like Louis Rutherford and William Currie from South | :11:50. | :11:53. | |
Shields and Laurie McIntire and Aileen McLeod from the Isle of Barra | :11:54. | :11:57. | |
and Courtney Boyle and Philip Tron from Gateshead. Behind every face, a | :11:58. | :12:03. | |
desperate search. We haven't seen this girl. I Anders Aslund if you | :12:04. | :12:08. | |
have seen this jungle. Have you seen this girl? She was at the concert | :12:09. | :12:12. | |
last night. This is the uncle of 15-year-old Olivia Campbell. Her | :12:13. | :12:15. | |
family asked us to show her picture and publicise the search, from | :12:16. | :12:21. | |
hotels to hospitals. We have been as close as we can to the arena to | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
check the back streets and we have been to this hospital, a couple | :12:27. | :12:29. | |
more. We have friends and family going to other hospitals. We have | :12:30. | :12:33. | |
friends in Blackburn who work there and they are looking at their | :12:34. | :12:36. | |
hospital. We are just coming to an end. All we need to do is get in | :12:37. | :12:40. | |
contact with anyone who sees or knows where she is. All we need is a | :12:41. | :12:44. | |
phone call and we can go and get her. And waiting at home, cousins, | :12:45. | :12:50. | |
grandparents, and a mother who wanted to record this message to | :12:51. | :12:53. | |
help find her daughter. I am worried sick. If anybody has seen her, | :12:54. | :13:00. | |
please contact the police, contact somebody, let us know that you have | :13:01. | :13:03. | |
seen her. Does let the police know, please. In just seconds, so much | :13:04. | :13:09. | |
changed. Young lives so cruelly taken. | :13:10. | :13:20. | |
Plenty of reaction here in Manchester today. Let's meet | :13:21. | :13:26. | |
introduce you to the CEO of human appeal, which is a Manchester -based | :13:27. | :13:30. | |
charity. You do a lot of work in Syria and Afghanistan as well. Tell | :13:31. | :13:35. | |
me a little bit about what you've heard from the police today about | :13:36. | :13:41. | |
this 22-year-old monk -- young man, some collections -- connections to | :13:42. | :13:48. | |
Libya. Should we be surprised that someone who has done something like | :13:49. | :13:50. | |
this would come from a country that is so unethical? I think we are very | :13:51. | :13:58. | |
surprised as well. -- that is still stable. The stability has produced a | :13:59. | :14:11. | |
lot of problems. Bearing in mind that immigration and those who have | :14:12. | :14:15. | |
migrated, millions of people came to Europe because of the instability | :14:16. | :14:18. | |
there in serious this means have a lot of responsibility, the | :14:19. | :14:22. | |
international community, to try our best to solve the problems there. | :14:23. | :14:26. | |
Does an incident like this make it much more difficult to integrate | :14:27. | :14:29. | |
people like that you are coming from these countries into British | :14:30. | :14:33. | |
society? Do you worry about the divisions that that might cause? I | :14:34. | :14:37. | |
am not that worried because, for example, or charity. We do our best | :14:38. | :14:43. | |
to bring young people and we have 2000 volunteers around the country. | :14:44. | :14:48. | |
We try to challenge -- channel their energy to do things to maybe raise | :14:49. | :14:53. | |
funds to do other activities to help those who are abroad. So we need to | :14:54. | :15:00. | |
find a way. So this means there is a collective responsibility in the | :15:01. | :15:03. | |
community and we need to work together to channel the energy of | :15:04. | :15:06. | |
these young people and reach them as well because we need to do a lot of | :15:07. | :15:09. | |
projects to reach young people, especially in editors bandaged -- in | :15:10. | :15:16. | |
disadvantaged areas and unstable countries. There will be a lot of | :15:17. | :15:22. | |
people who will say I am putting a liberal spin on it and saying we had | :15:23. | :15:25. | |
to do more in the community to help people who have recently arrived and | :15:26. | :15:30. | |
these are the sort of people that should no good from evil and some | :15:31. | :15:34. | |
times we are accused of being too liberal, but when you look be read | :15:35. | :15:38. | |
back to September the 11th, we have tried invasions, we have dropped | :15:39. | :15:43. | |
bombs and we have tried all sorts of counterterrorist measures that the | :15:44. | :15:46. | |
incidents are starting to escalate, so there is clearly a problem within | :15:47. | :15:51. | |
our societies in Europe were people of the kind you have just described | :15:52. | :15:54. | |
are being lost and they are dropping through the gaps. Yes. I think we | :15:55. | :16:05. | |
have a responsibility. We need to do a lot of work with the young people | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
who come here. We need to find a way to integrate them with the community | :16:10. | :16:15. | |
and find a way to tell -- to channel their energy. At the same time, we | :16:16. | :16:19. | |
cannot avoid speaking about the big picture were the international | :16:20. | :16:21. | |
community has a big responsibility to solve the problems there as well. | :16:22. | :16:24. | |
That is something because I do a lot of work in Syria, I have seen the | :16:25. | :16:30. | |
reality in my eyes. I just came two weeks ago from the border between | :16:31. | :16:34. | |
Turkey and Syria, Lebanon and Syria, so I grow frequently and ITV reality | :16:35. | :16:43. | |
there are so we have a big responsibility -- our Government has | :16:44. | :16:46. | |
a big responsibility to stop what is happening there because as I said | :16:47. | :16:48. | |
earlier, those who came to Europe because there was a problem there, | :16:49. | :16:54. | |
we need to support for example Lebanon, Turkey and Jordan, who host | :16:55. | :16:59. | |
now 4 million refugees sought we have a responsibility. And when they | :17:00. | :17:03. | |
arrive here, that is double. Extra responsibility. And we are more than | :17:04. | :17:08. | |
happy in the Western community to work with the local authorities like | :17:09. | :17:12. | |
we do here in Manchester and with local Government as well to help | :17:13. | :17:15. | |
integrate those who come to Europe from the unstable countries. OK. | :17:16. | :17:19. | |
Thank you very much for being with us. We can speak now to security | :17:20. | :17:33. | |
expert birdie-mac, who advises the Government on public protection. If | :17:34. | :17:36. | |
you were in Manchester today and advising the authorities in | :17:37. | :17:38. | |
Manchester, what would you be asking them to look at? Well, I think | :17:39. | :17:46. | |
everyone is going to enter some days of grieving, along with all of these | :17:47. | :17:52. | |
victims and the first consideration from the point of view of the public | :17:53. | :17:56. | |
is really going to be that 20,000 people in five minutes have had in | :17:57. | :18:01. | |
your death experience and traumatic separation from children, so this is | :18:02. | :18:06. | |
a massive effort for the community to sort out and for the schools to | :18:07. | :18:13. | |
help. In terms of the terrorism, the whole of Britain actually has a | :18:14. | :18:17. | |
lesson from this and that is that we are entering potentially a very new | :18:18. | :18:22. | |
phase of much more military style attacks and these may threaten ours | :18:23. | :18:26. | |
because they may be more effective with these mass casualties and also | :18:27. | :18:30. | |
aiming at hard targets like the police, as we have seen in a recent | :18:31. | :18:36. | |
attack. So it means the authorities and the public are going to have to | :18:37. | :18:39. | |
work more closely. The other thing that we learned from the very sad | :18:40. | :18:46. | |
situation at Manchester is that the terrorists are finding art | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
facilities inside are so well protected that the focus of their | :18:52. | :18:54. | |
targeting is outside the facility on the periphery. Airports around the | :18:55. | :19:00. | |
world have experienced this. We have seen people walk into arrivals to do | :19:01. | :19:03. | |
the attacks because getting in another way is to well protected. So | :19:04. | :19:11. | |
does that mean, from your firm's experience, that what security | :19:12. | :19:15. | |
officials now have to be looking at is the external of buildings like | :19:16. | :19:19. | |
this and what can they really realistically do about that, short | :19:20. | :19:22. | |
of making an entire city on lockdown? Well, this country already | :19:23. | :19:29. | |
has defence in depth and it is disguised in many ways in the street | :19:30. | :19:32. | |
furniture and the way barriers are up to stop ramming vehicles and | :19:33. | :19:39. | |
vehicle bombs getting too close to buildings. They worked usually on | :19:40. | :19:42. | |
that and in the Olympics they did you'd work with local communities | :19:43. | :19:47. | |
and businesses and there is a very tight in intelligence of people | :19:48. | :19:51. | |
talking to the police, but the design, particularly in the | :19:52. | :19:53. | |
facilities that I have been looking at, particularly in this leisure | :19:54. | :19:58. | |
area, our concern has very much been the front facade of the entry areas | :19:59. | :20:02. | |
as the weak spots because this seems to get uncontrolled and often | :20:03. | :20:08. | |
facilities are old and they don't always have explosion protection | :20:09. | :20:14. | |
glass and very tight fitting that won't become extra fragmentation if | :20:15. | :20:18. | |
you have this type of attack, so the engineers will look at this very | :20:19. | :20:23. | |
carefully. OK. Fascinating. Thank you very much for joining us. Well, | :20:24. | :20:27. | |
this type of attack is something that security forces in western | :20:28. | :20:31. | |
countries are always on alert for, but with soft targets like answered | :20:32. | :20:34. | |
Samaritans and sporting venues, as you heard, more can be done to | :20:35. | :20:39. | |
protect the public? Today, while he was in Israel, President Trump had | :20:40. | :20:42. | |
this to say about the assault. I will call them from now on losers | :20:43. | :20:50. | |
because that is what they are. They are losers. Well, joining me now is | :20:51. | :20:55. | |
Stephen Hadley, he served as national security adviser to | :20:56. | :21:01. | |
President Bush. Is it possible as President Trump has suggested for as | :21:02. | :21:06. | |
ever to eradicate the threat that comes from Islamic State? It is | :21:07. | :21:12. | |
going to take a long time. It is going to require a strategy on a | :21:13. | :21:18. | |
variety of levels, sustained over a long period of time. We are going | :21:19. | :21:24. | |
after Isis now. We are stripping them of their territory, of their | :21:25. | :21:27. | |
so-called caliphate. That is the right thing to do because it gives | :21:28. | :21:31. | |
them a place to train and it was a source of inspiration and | :21:32. | :21:33. | |
recruitment, but if we succeed, they will then go back down to being kind | :21:34. | :21:38. | |
of a terrorist organisation like Al-Qaeda and we will have two deal | :21:39. | :21:43. | |
with that, trying to get intelligence to disrupt attacks and | :21:44. | :21:46. | |
trying too hard on things here at home. We will all have do pay | :21:47. | :21:51. | |
special attention now to those major gatherings, sporting events, | :21:52. | :21:55. | |
concerts and be like to upgrade the security associated with both events | :21:56. | :21:58. | |
because that is a vulnerability that the terrorists are beginning to | :21:59. | :22:02. | |
exploit. We are going to be in this for the long haul and what President | :22:03. | :22:05. | |
Trump is trying to do is rally the world of Islam to join others in | :22:06. | :22:11. | |
that effort and really put down the line that these folks are working | :22:12. | :22:18. | |
off an extremist ideology that is a perversion of religion and is really | :22:19. | :22:24. | |
the enemy of all religion. Since September the 11th, intelligence | :22:25. | :22:26. | |
sharing has improved here in the United States and with Western | :22:27. | :22:30. | |
allies as well and with European countries, but it becomes | :22:31. | :22:32. | |
increasingly difficult when you can have an individual and we do not | :22:33. | :22:37. | |
know whether this was one person or a network but when you have an | :22:38. | :22:40. | |
individual who can strap on a bomb and cause this much damage trying to | :22:41. | :22:45. | |
trace that individual and stop them. Is it possible for us to keep track | :22:46. | :22:48. | |
of every single person who is a threat? Well, one of the things we | :22:49. | :22:54. | |
have to do is work in our local communities to identify people who | :22:55. | :22:58. | |
are at risk and tried to get them connected with their family, get | :22:59. | :23:01. | |
them to help and support so they don't move in the direction. But | :23:02. | :23:08. | |
sometimes people are on watch lists and the security services quite | :23:09. | :23:11. | |
understandably do not have the resources to keep everybody on a | :23:12. | :23:15. | |
list of the time. That is why it needs to be a community effort to | :23:16. | :23:18. | |
take some responsibility and to try to get young people in particular | :23:19. | :23:23. | |
heading down the right path and there are some programmes were this | :23:24. | :23:26. | |
is being attempted in countries around the world. We have to do | :23:27. | :23:30. | |
more. They are trying it in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. But it is going | :23:31. | :23:35. | |
to be a community wide effort and it is going to take all of us and there | :23:36. | :23:39. | |
will be times when terrorists are going to get through. Were you | :23:40. | :23:44. | |
involved in the investigation into the attack in Manchester, what would | :23:45. | :23:53. | |
you be looking for today? Well, the question and the people who have | :23:54. | :23:55. | |
been on your show have said very clearly, is this someone by | :23:56. | :24:00. | |
themselves doing this or are they part of a network, and if they are | :24:01. | :24:04. | |
part of a network then we have to find out where the financing came | :24:05. | :24:08. | |
from, where the materials and training came from. And there are a | :24:09. | :24:12. | |
lot of principles that are available to do that. So the first question is | :24:13. | :24:17. | |
is this person acting alone, are they part of a network and then we | :24:18. | :24:20. | |
have to run down the network and also make sure that this is not the | :24:21. | :24:24. | |
first of a wave because that is always the thing you worry about | :24:25. | :24:27. | |
when you have an attack is the second or third. Which is why you | :24:28. | :24:32. | |
need to be so vigorous in your investigation, get to the bottom of | :24:33. | :24:36. | |
it and make sure there isn't another attack planned and ready to go. OK. | :24:37. | :24:40. | |
Stephen Hadley. Thank you for joining me on the programme. One | :24:41. | :24:45. | |
issue that people here are talking about in the counterterrorism world | :24:46. | :24:49. | |
that has changed since the days that Stephen Hadley was national security | :24:50. | :24:53. | |
adviser is of course cyber and encryption and these individuals are | :24:54. | :24:58. | |
often using encrypted communications and flying blind in a way for the | :24:59. | :25:01. | |
national security services to try to keep track of them because they | :25:02. | :25:10. | |
can't be traced so easily. Yes, that is how they are communicating. We | :25:11. | :25:14. | |
were talking about people coming in from unstable regions of people | :25:15. | :25:19. | |
listening to that might say the sky was British foreign, lived here in | :25:20. | :25:22. | |
Manchester and grew up in Manchester and he did but we do not know what | :25:23. | :25:25. | |
other connections he has had, whether he has been to Libya or is | :25:26. | :25:30. | |
in connection or is just inspired by so-called Islamic state. We do not | :25:31. | :25:36. | |
know. The difference between what happened at Westminster Bridge eight | :25:37. | :25:38. | |
a few weeks ago and what has happened here is that the bomb might | :25:39. | :25:42. | |
not be particularly sophisticated but there has to be a certain amount | :25:43. | :25:46. | |
of planning that goes into it. In previous plots that have been | :25:47. | :25:51. | |
foiled, usually they make contact with somebody, perhaps a bomb maker | :25:52. | :25:53. | |
or somebody who cancellers materials. That gives them away and | :25:54. | :25:57. | |
sometimes they do not make the bomb properly, but the point is this man | :25:58. | :26:00. | |
has managed to blot out what he was going to do and has carried out | :26:01. | :26:03. | |
successfully and that will be a worry to the police. You are | :26:04. | :26:12. | |
watching 100 Days+ from BBC | :26:13. | :26:13. |