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-A spokesperson for the union -said negotiations will continue. | 0:00:00 | 0:00:05 | |
-Six months have passed... | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
-Well, can we believe -what we hear on the news? | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
-Donald Trump complains almost -on a daily basis about fake news. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:16 | |
-You are fake news. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:17 | |
-Others say he was elected -on a wave of fake news. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
-How do you differentiate -between truth and lies... | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
-..when you read your mobile phones -or watch TV? | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
-Do you believe -everything I'm saying? | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
-Is it true? Really? | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
-That's true. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
-No. It's not. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:39 | |
-What's true and what's not? | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
-Some people think I'm having -an affair with Gavin Henson. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
-It's hard to know who to believe. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
-The term fake news -is frequently used in Westminster. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:54 | |
-I've been on a journey -to find the fakers. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
-I've gone as far -as the streets of Macedonia. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
-Do you know people who do fake news? | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
-Yes, yes. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
-If the stories travel far, -they make money from advertising. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
-I meet a Northwalian -who had a million clicks... | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
-..for a story that stopped traffic. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
-I hadn't intended to make it -look real but people thought it was. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
-Over a million people read that. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
-In this programme, -we look at past and present lies... | 0:01:23 | 0:01:28 | |
-..and what awaits us in the future. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
-We'll see how far -a fake news story can spread. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
-As everyone shouts "fake news", -can we trust anything? | 0:01:35 | 0:01:40 | |
-When I stated working -as a journalist in Cardiff... | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
-..fake news was unheard of. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
-The line between truth and lies -appeared clearer then... | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
-..but there's nothing new in trying -to control what appears in the news. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:06 | |
-I remember back in the '90s... | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
-..the only way -I could get information... | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
-..from the war in Yugoslavia... | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
-..was by going precisely where -the Croatian army would take me. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:19 | |
-This is the first time the Croatian -army has allowed journalists... | 0:02:20 | 0:02:25 | |
-..to visit the town -since it was captured. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
-Also in the '90s, in China, a lot -of undercover filming was required. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:33 | |
-Journalists weren't welcome at all. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
-Tonight, most of these people -will go home worse off. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
-They must accept -whatever Beijing has to offer. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
-In the past year, much has changed | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
-You can't ignore the effect -of technology and the Internet... | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
-..on Donald Trump's success. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
-Since being elected, he's used -the term 'fake news' constantly... | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
-..on Twitter, accusing newspapers -and broadcasters of lying. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:06 | |
-Some claim that fake news -helped Trump win the US election. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:12 | |
-Websites from Eastern Europe -produced fake stories... | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
-..that were extensively shared -on Facebook and Twitter. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
-The news is now -under the microscope. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
-You are fake news, fake news. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
-Checking the legitimacy of news -is an important part of journalism. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
-Newspapers and broadcasters -now employ fact checkers... | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
-..to check the facts and information -that come from all directions. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:39 | |
-Last year, there was a change in the -way stories were shared on websites. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:45 | |
-One of the first to notice -was Elena Cresci... | 0:03:45 | 0:03:50 | |
-..an expert on social media -with The Guardian. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
-Elena, you work for The Guardian -as a fact checker. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:59 | |
-What exactly is your role? | 0:04:00 | 0:04:01 | |
-When I began, -an important part of my job... | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
-..was taking stories in -from our readers. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
-We'll ask questions such as... | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
-..have you been affected -by events in the NHS? | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
-A large part of that -was when terror attacks happened. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
-It's important for us to be -accurate in what we report. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
-We can't watch a video of something -claiming to be the Paris attack... | 0:04:25 | 0:04:30 | |
-..without checking it first. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
-When readers offer videos -on different stories... | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
-..what exactly do you do -to check that footage? | 0:04:37 | 0:04:42 | |
-There are a few things you can do. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
-For example, -with the attack in Munich... | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
-..there was a video of the man -shooting outside McDonald's. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:54 | |
-I checked that McDonald's branch. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
-Was it the same McDonald's? -Is there even one there? | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
-Sometimes when something happens... | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
-..people take photos or find videos -from other attacks and use them. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:10 | |
-During the Munich attack, -one reader sent us a video... | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
-..of a staged terror attack -in Manchester... | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
-..and said it was from Germany -which evidently wasn't true. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
-During last year's US Elections... | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
-..did you notice a change in the way -stories were promoted globally? | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
-What I noticed was websites -being established... | 0:05:32 | 0:05:37 | |
-..just to report fake news. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
-These websites were set up -by teenagers in Macedonia. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
-They had one goal. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
-Not to get Trump elected -but to make money. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
-If their stories travelled -long distances... | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
-..and most of the stories were -hyper partisan for Donald Trump... | 0:05:55 | 0:06:00 | |
-..they could make money -from the advertising... | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
-..and this happened regularly. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
-In America, -politicians accused The Guardian... | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
-..and the BBC -of promoting fake news. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
-Has that phenomenon reached Britain -and British politicians? | 0:06:14 | 0:06:19 | |
-I've heard Jeremy Corbyn mention it. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
-It's dangerous when he says -this is fake news. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
-Politicians can't just say that a -story they don't like is fake news. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:32 | |
-If the facts are inaccurate, -say they're inaccurate. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
-When I hear politicians say -a story is fake news... | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
-..I feel it's really scary. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
-For this programme, we've organised -an experiment on fake news... | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
-..to see how fast -something can be spread. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
-Do you have any advice for us? | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
-You'd need someone popular, -someone well-known, a celebrity... | 0:06:55 | 0:07:01 | |
-..someone the tabloids dedicate -a lot of column inches to. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:06 | |
-Someone the public have a lot -of interest in their personal life. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:12 | |
-What's the best way -to start the story? | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
-Ooh, well. Maybe with a tweet. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
-Not from the person, -that's a little suspect. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
-Maybe from someone -with a big account following. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
-Just be a little bit cheeky -about it... | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
-..suggest that something's happened. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
-That might do it. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:39 | |
-To see how quickly -fake news can be spread... | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
-..Sian Lloyd, a well-known face -with a strong Twitter presence... | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
-..has allowed us to share -a fake story about her. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
-Sian is happy to be part -of the experiment... | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
-..since many fake stories about -her love life have been shared. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:03 | |
-In one case, -a theatre trip with colleagues... | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
-..was reported as the start -of a toy boy relationship. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
-The athlete, Welshman James Baker... | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
-..just as I walked down the steps -out of the theatre... | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
-..I just happened to be with James, -laughing and talking. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
-The next day, in the newspapers... | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
-..I'm having an affair -with a young, handsome mystery man. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
-Who is Sian's mystery man? | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
-That's not the only false story -written about Sian. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
-The papers also claim that a close -friend to her is her sugar daddy... | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
-..after they were spotted together. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
-The Sunday papers claimed that David -Goldstone was Sian's sugar daddy. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:51 | |
-"She looked ever so comfortable -sat there in the Bentley." | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
-David loved it -but he's just a dear friend to me. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
-So I've had David, -who's by now 88 years old... | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
-..James Baker, -who was 25 at the time... | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
-..but never anyone in the middle. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
-In a career -that's spanned many decades... | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
-..Sian has seen many changes. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
-Mistakes and lies -are on the increase. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
-At the start of my career... | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
-..it would have been embarrassing -if you were caught lying. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:26 | |
-Back in the day, politicians -didn't want to be caught out. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
-The truth actually meant something. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
-Over the decades -and especially since 2007... | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
-..and the popularity -of the Internet... | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
-..things have spiralled downwards -very quickly. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:45 | |
-Former rugby player Gareth Thomas... | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
-..has agreed to share news about -Sian through his Twitter account. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:54 | |
-She's become engaged -to a sports star half her age. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
-We'll see if anyone takes the bait -later in the programme. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
-Elena will keep an eye -on how the rumour develops. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
-I trained as a journalist in Cardiff -during very different times. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:11 | |
-Cardiff University now has a special -course to help future hacks... | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
-..recognise fake news. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
-The students are in the Assembly -to learn from journalists... | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
-..and PR experts. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:25 | |
-How do they receive their news? | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
-Like many people of my age, -we receive news from the Internet. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:33 | |
-Twitter, Facebook. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:35 | |
-I just read stories -that interest me. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
-There could be a lot out there -I'm unaware of. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
-I won't click on it -unless I want to read it. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
-I am relatively dependant -on what my friends share and read. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:49 | |
-I can tell quite easily -if something is fake news. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
-I remember when Facebook had -problems with their trending page... | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
-..I heard on the news -that someone famous had died. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
-I clicked on the item -and realised... | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
-..that it linked to a website -I didn't recognise. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
-Sometimes they're click-bait. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
-People click on them because -they want the news to be true. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
-Often, it's not the press or the -mainstream media sharing fake news. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:21 | |
-They come from fake websites -created in other countries. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
-It's quite shocking -how much power fake news has. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
-We really don't know -how powerful fake news can be. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
-There's no way to assess it. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
-We know that more fake news -was shared... | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
-..during Trump's campaign -than real news. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
-Future journalists will have -to work harder than ever before. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
-How can they avoid being tricked -into sharing lies? | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
-That's the question I asked Sian -Morgan Lloyd, the course leader. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:57 | |
-Recognising fake news -can be difficult. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
-Even seasoned journalists -and academics... | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
-..find it difficult every time. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
-We do use different methods -when we work with students. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:13 | |
-Google gives you the opportunity -to place a photo in Google images... | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
-..and it tells you -what Google knows about the photo. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
-When it was taken -and where it was taken. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
-During the Scottish Referendum -campaign... | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
-..a lot of photos -were shared online... | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
-..showing riot police in Glasgow. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
-The photos had been taken in London -during the London riots. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:41 | |
-It shows quite clearly that if you -take a photo out of its context... | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
-..you can create fake news. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
-Fake news -is an international business... | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
-..which creates challenges -for journalists. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
-My journey takes me to a city -with a large collection... | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
-..of fake news websites. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
-I'm glad to hear -that my fellow countrymen... | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
-..helped Trump to win the election. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
-We'll also catch up -with Sian Lloyd's private life. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:15 | |
-First, how easy is it -to spot the difference... | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
-..between a genuine news story -and fake news? | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
-Will you fare better than this crew? | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
-Three sets of headlines. -What's true and what's fake? | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
-These have all been on the Internet. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
-Warning: Escaped Cattle Selling -Dairy Products Door To Door. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
-Fake. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:44 | |
-No, no. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:45 | |
-Fake? | 0:13:46 | 0:13:47 | |
-Fake? - -It's not true. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
-It's true. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:50 | |
-It's true. - -It's not! | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
-Witches Plan To Cast Mass Spell -Against Donald Trump. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
-True. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:57 | |
-True, definitely. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
-Fake. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:00 | |
-Fake. - -It's true. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:01 | |
-Really? | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
-Donald Trump Protestor Speaks Out. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
-I Was Paid 3,500 -To Protest Trump's Rally. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
-True. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:11 | |
-True. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:13 | |
-True. - -True. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
-Fake. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:16 | |
-Fake. - -It's fake. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
-All wrong! | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
-Does that bother you? | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
-Does that bother you? - -Definitely. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:24 | |
-You should be wary -of the online stories. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
-Is it true? Is it? | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
-No, it's not! | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
-. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:35 | |
-Threats, belittling and vilification -were often used by spin doctors. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:26 | |
-Once, when Tony Blair -visited Wales... | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
-..I asked a question that wasn't -on his agenda that day. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
-Alastair Campbell was incensed. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
-I was pulled to one side... | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
-..and he warned me never to do -such a thing again. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
-It was an unpleasant experience -at the time... | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
-..but very common -for political correspondents. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
-The process of influencing the press -was well established | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
-When David Cameron -was elected Prime Minister... | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
-..he also appointed -a former journalist. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
-Andy Coulson stepped in... | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
-..despite problems with his former -employer the News of The World. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
-Many journalists have moved -into the world of PR and spin. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:12 | |
-Their job is to control the news -rather than report it. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
-Guto Harri is one -who followed this path. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
-At one time, -he worked alongside me in the BBC. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
-Both presidents -presented themselves... | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
-..as an example of the way -decades of mistrust can be overcome. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
-He's worked as Boris Johnson's -Director of Communications... | 0:16:32 | 0:16:37 | |
-..when he was Mayor of London... | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
-..and also for the News -International group of newspapers. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
-He now works for media group -Liberty Global. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
-Guto, you've been on both sides -of the fence... | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
-..a journalist -and a communications director. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
-How difficult was it -to cross over to the dark side? | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
-It changes your perspective but -you're part of the same process. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:05 | |
-You're further down -or further up the chain. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
-It helped me -that I'd worked as a journalist. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
-What we're trying to do -is sell stories. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
-You have to know what will come out -at the other end of the filter. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:21 | |
-It's been a great help to do that. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
-When you crossed, -did Guto Harri the journalist... | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
-..see things that shocked him -on the other side? | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
-As a journalist, -you know the difference... | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
-..between genuine people -and people who tell you... | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
-..that someone isn't available -when they are. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
-I saw all kinds of nonsense... | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
-..during the days of Tony Blair -as Prime Minister. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
-"War is neither imminent -nor inevitable." | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
-Alun Michael as First Minister - -"Made in Wales". | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
-Everyone knew it was a decision -from No.10. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
-On this side of the fence, I've -tried to avoid doing the things... | 0:17:58 | 0:18:04 | |
-..that I know -will incense journalists. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
-You need their trust - you can -only trick a journalist once. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
-If you do that, -they'll never trust you again. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
-If you lose that trust, you cannot -influence those people again. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:22 | |
-What do you make of the movement -started by President Trump... | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
-..that if he doesn't agree -with something, it's fake news? | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
-The best thing about fake news... | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
-..is that it reminded us all -of what real news looks like. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
-When Trump attacked Vanity Fair... | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
-..100,000 people subscribed -to the magazine. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
-The New York Times is improving. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
-People have realised -that there's a difference... | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
-..between reading the views -of your best friend... | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
-..and reading the views -of someone more informed. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
-If you grab the big brands, -such as New York Times, CNN... | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
-..The Times and the BBC... | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
-..you'll have an antidote -to fake news. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
-Interestingly, the institutions -banned from the White House... | 0:19:11 | 0:19:16 | |
-..were those trusted, -believable news sources. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
-One of the biggest threats -to traditional news brands... | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
-..is social media. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
-It's changed the way -journalists work. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
-Twitter is an important weapon -in the political world. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
-Westminster looks the same -as it did when I worked here... | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
-..but much has changed. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
-Journalists spend -as much time on social media... | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
-..as they do in front of a camera. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
-Elliw Gwawr is BBC Cymru's -Westminster Correspondent. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:54 | |
-Here we are, a normal day -in Westminster, Elliw. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
-What's the first thing you do in -work? Check the social media sites? | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
-Yes, I must be honest. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
-I switch the computer on rather -than reach for the newspapers. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
-I open Twitter to see -what the politicians have said. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:14 | |
-That's something I monitor -all day long. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
-To be honest, that's where people -post news and stories first. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:23 | |
-The Government make announcements -straight on Twitter... | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
-..to target the public directly -with their message... | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
-..before it is digested -by politicians... | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
-..and reported by the BBC -or other journalists. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:41 | |
-How do you check? Do you accept -that this is the truth? | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
-No, never! The complete opposite. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
-I'm cynical of anything -that's posted on Twitter... | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
-..whether it's by journalists -or politicians. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
-If I want to post something, -I have to check the facts myself. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
-It's so easy just to post something -and think about it afterwards. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:07 | |
-As a journalist, I think twice -before posting anything. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:12 | |
-Is fake news discussed -behind the scenes at Westminster? | 0:21:12 | 0:21:19 | |
-Is America influencing Britain? | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
-The term fake news is often used -in Westminster at the moment. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
-We hear from people -like Jeremy Corbyn... | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
-..people within government itself... | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
-..Amber Rudd the Home Secretary -claiming that news... | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
-..from institutions they don't -particularly like is fake news. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:43 | |
-It is used more often to challenge -journalism they don't like. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:49 | |
-It's not necessarily incorrect or -fake but they don't agree with it. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
-The democratising of journalism -is happening. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
-Will we need journalists -in the future? | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
-People want news -they can believe and trust. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:07 | |
-Something that a fake website posts -or something the public posts... | 0:22:07 | 0:22:13 | |
-..has the same value -as one tweet by the BBC. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
-That's the challenge for us. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
-How do we use that? | 0:22:20 | 0:22:21 | |
-How do we report -the stories quickly... | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
-..and also with the accuracy people -expect from us as journalists? | 0:22:25 | 0:22:31 | |
-As we've seen, controlling -and influencing news content... | 0:22:33 | 0:22:38 | |
-..is an integral part -of the political world. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
-These days, -people create their own news. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
-It is claimed -that fake news websites... | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
-..helped Donald Trump -win the US Election. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
-How has this happened? -The answer was a bit of a shock. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:56 | |
-If you, -like millions across the world... | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
-..have read stories on websites -with names such as... | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
-..USA Newsflash, USA Daily Politics, -Donald Trump News... | 0:23:03 | 0:23:08 | |
-..you've been reading words that -were written and published here. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
-Veles is a small city in Macedonia. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
-It has a population of 50,000 - -less than Merthyr Tydfil. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
-Recently, journalists noticed -that over 100 fake news websites... | 0:23:29 | 0:23:34 | |
-..were published from here. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
-They were all targeted -at readers in America. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
-The websites were set up -by the city's youngsters. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
-They cornered the market -of fake news. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
-What was in the articles? | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
-These were some of the headlines. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
-Writing fake news about America -is a profitable business. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:08 | |
-Last year, people shared, -discussed or responded... | 0:24:08 | 0:24:13 | |
-..to fake news -about American politics... | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
-..over 10m times on Facebook. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
-Advertising revenue, not politics, -is the driving force here. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
-Since coming -to international attention... | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
-..the authors -are staying out of the limelight. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
-What do local people know about -the fake news factory in Veles? | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
-I don't think that in general people -are aware of what has been going on. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
-Maybe the younger generation who -spend their time on the Internet. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:45 | |
-I heard -that it was something to do... | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
-..with helping Donald Trump -win the election a few months ago. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
-I didn't get much publicity here -in Macedonia. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
-We were more preoccupied -with other topics... | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
-..with our daily politics. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
-It's good that Veles -has gained publicity... | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
-..and that the media flocked here. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
-That's the positive side. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
-Do you think it's good for Veles, -that international publicity? | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
-As they say, -any type of publicity is good. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
-This might be good -for people to hear. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:27 | |
-I'm glad to hear -that my fellow countrymen... | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
-..helped Trump -to win the election... | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
-..but I don't know -if it's beneficial... | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
-..for the rest of the world. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
-It surprises you -that there are people here... | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
-..making thousands of pounds -with fake news. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
-Well, it does, but we have -one saying in Macedonia. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
-Poor people are like devils, they -can always find a way to make money. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
-Maybe Donald Trump should come here. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
-He should bring a portion -of the United States to Veles. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
-More from the factory of fake news -in Macedonia after the break. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:11 | |
-We also talk to those -who know what's going on here. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
-They create fake news for fun, -and for the money. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
-Back home, what's happened to the -fake news story about Sian Lloyd? | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
-First, what do you make -of these headlines? | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
-Have you heard of fake news? -Do you think you can spot it? | 0:26:33 | 0:26:38 | |
-Uh, maybe. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
-Some headlines. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:41 | |
-Darth Vader hopes force with him -in Ukraine polls. True? | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
-No. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:47 | |
-Yes. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:48 | |
-Yes. - -I read that somewhere. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
-True. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:52 | |
-Buddhist Monk Goes On Tire Slashing -Spree After Killing Insect. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:58 | |
-True. True. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
-Fake. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:02 | |
-You think it's true? | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
-Yes. No. I don't know. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
-It's true. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
-Woman murders roommate for sending -too many Candy Crush requests. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
-That's true. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:16 | |
-True. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:17 | |
-True. - -She went bonkers and killed someone. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
-Fake. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:22 | |
-Spot-on. Three out of three. -Well done. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
-You can spot fake news. -Well done, fantastic. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
-Thank you! | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
-. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:32 | |
-Subtitles | 0:29:12 | 0:29:12 | |
-Subtitles - -Subtitles | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
-This put the country of Macedonia -on the map. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
-That's the good thing about this. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
-It did more -for the country's profile... | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
-..than many other things -over a longer period of time. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
-More importantly, the youngsters -didn't break any Macedonian laws. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:35 | |
-You're confident -that these were individuals... | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
-..and they weren't influenced, -as many suggest... | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
-..by Russia trying to influence -the US Election. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
-I'm 100% sure that Russia had -no influence on events in Veles... | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
-..or Macedonia. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
-Rumours could have spread that one -individual had made money from this. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:03 | |
-That news would have reached -his friends. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
-Have you heard from Mr Trump? | 0:30:10 | 0:30:11 | |
-Have you heard from Mr Trump? - -No, but he might need us... | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
-..for the next election. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
-..for the next election. - -Thank you very much. Thank you. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
-I've spoken to those involved -with fake news in Veles. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:30 | |
-Talk to them about Donald Trump and -they rub their hands and laugh... | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
-..but they won't be interviewed. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
-Hardly anyone -wanted to speak openly. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
-Can you talk to us about Veles? | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
-They know, that despite not -breaking any laws in Macedonia... | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
-..if they operated -in other countries... | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
-..they would attract -legal attention. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
-Some young people were happy -to share their experiences... | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
-..of what's happened here. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
-Do you know people who do fake news? | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
-Do you know people who do fake news? - -Yes, yes. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
-They make a lot of money. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
-Youngsters are well aware -of the situation. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
-They know precisely how it works. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
-What sort of fake stories -do they tell? | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
-Various about politics. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
-About celebrities. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
-They do it out of fun -but mainly for money. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
-According to -the international press... | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
-..male teenagers -create the fake stories. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
-These girls know it's an industry -which offers equal opportunities. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:44 | |
-Girls, boys? | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
-Average people, ordinary people. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
-Girls and boys? | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
-Yes. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
-What are they going to do next? -Trump is old news. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
-With celebrities, singers, actors. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
-I heard yesterday... | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
-..that Miley Cyrus was killed -in her apartment. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
-Like every industry, -the world of fake news must adapt. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
-Donald Trump -and right-wing politics... | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
-..have so far generated -the profits and headlines. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
-Left-wing politics and European -Elections are also getting involved. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:33 | |
-From what I've seen here... | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
-..Veles' fakers are turning their -sight to the world of celebrity. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
-That's where we turn next -with our special experiment... | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
-..to see how far -we can spread fake news. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
-News of Sian Lloyd's love life... | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
-..was published on Gareth Thomas' -Twitter page some time ago. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:59 | |
-There has been a lot of interest. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
-Someone's written, "Gareth, you -tease, spill the beans. Who is it?" | 0:33:02 | 0:33:07 | |
-For some reason... | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
-..lots of people think I'm having -an affair with Gavin Henson. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:15 | |
-This is fantastic. "If it's Alex -Cuthbert, he'll probably drop her." | 0:33:20 | 0:33:25 | |
-As well as the general public... | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
-..journalists have reacted -by contacting Sian's agent. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
-"We've heard a rumour -that Sian Lloyd has got engaged.. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
-"..to a famous Welsh sports star. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
-"Are you able to confirm -whether this is true? | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
-"Do you have further information -you can publicly reveal?" | 0:33:44 | 0:33:49 | |
-We have one of the country's -main newspaper groups on the case. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:56 | |
-The story is gathering momentum. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
-I contacted Elena Cresci -in The Guardian's newsroom. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:05 | |
-I spoke to our fake news expert... | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
-..before things -spiralled out of control. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
-Well, the original tweet -had 70 likes. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:19 | |
-Some newsrooms have contacted -Sian's agent about the story. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:26 | |
-We know of at least one... | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
-..and we know of two newsrooms -that have seen the story. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
-As broadcasters, -we have to be responsible. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
-We can't push it further. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
-If we did, -what would be the next step? | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
-The first problem -is the story's topic. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
-There is a reason that these -fake news sites in Macedonia... | 0:34:46 | 0:34:51 | |
-..chose stories about Donald Trump -and Hillary Clinton. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
-The election in America -was an emotive subject. | 0:34:55 | 0:35:00 | |
-We see the same with stories -that are Islamophobic. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:06 | |
-We've done most of this story -on Twitter. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
-More people are on Facebook... | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
-..but it's difficult -to share something like this... | 0:35:14 | 0:35:19 | |
-..from a small Facebook page... | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
-..and get it shared further. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
-You need a huge Facebook page. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
-How would you get one of -the Facebook pages you mentioned... | 0:35:29 | 0:35:35 | |
-..to generate their interest -in the story? | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
-We've seen popular Facebook pages -being bought... | 0:35:38 | 0:35:44 | |
-..by people who want to do this. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
-They buy all the likes and change -the name of the Facebook page. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:55 | |
-What about the future of fake news? | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
-Where's it all going? | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
-I'm worried that more and more -people won't know what to believe... | 0:36:01 | 0:36:06 | |
-..and they'll believe -what they want to believe. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
-That's officially -the end of the experiment. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
-I can confirm that Sian Lloyd -isn't engaged to a rugby player... | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
-..but the fake news continues. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
-Journalists across the world -are concerned about fake news. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:29 | |
-In Part 3, we'll look -at unique problems for Welsh news. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:35 | |
-We'll meet the man from Buckley -who got a million clicks... | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
-..for a story that stopped traffic. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
-I hadn't intended to make it look -real but people thought it was. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
-Over a million people read it -in 24 hours. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
-First, some more stories -but which one is fake? | 0:36:49 | 0:36:54 | |
-We're discussing fake news. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
-I'll read you a set of headlines. -These appeared on the Internet. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:06 | |
-Hefty fine for ignoring -'Do not knock' sign. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
-Is that true? | 0:37:09 | 0:37:10 | |
-Is that true? - -No. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:11 | |
-Yeah, go on. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:13 | |
-Yeah, go on. - -No. Fake. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
-It's true. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
-Rio to ban cosmetic surgery... -for pets. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
-Fake. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
-Um... fake. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
-Fake. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
-It's true. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
-Isis Leader Calls For American -Muslim Voters To Support Hillary. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
-I don't think so. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:35 | |
-Fake. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:36 | |
-No. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:38 | |
-No. - -Fake. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:39 | |
-Fake. Correct. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
-You spotted one but not the others. -How do you feel? | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
-Disappointed. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
-. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:47 | |
-According to Dylan Iorwerth, -there are obvious dangers. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
-What's become more of a problem -for me... | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
-..is seeing more and more people -willing to peddle lies. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
-There are those who believe -that their job... | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
-..is to defend their interests -whatever the consequences... | 0:40:09 | 0:40:13 | |
-..as long as it exonerates them -at the time. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
-That leads to an increase -in fake news stories. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:22 | |
-They think that it's OK to do it -if people will believe you. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:27 | |
-You can't deny that the desire for -money is at the root of many things. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:32 | |
-You can make money -from publishing fake news. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
-One answer would be -to expand Welsh journalism. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
-Lecturer Ifan Morgan Jones -is raising money... | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
-..to fund an online English-language -news service for Wales. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:49 | |
-The idea is to provide -a not-for-profit news service... | 0:40:50 | 0:40:56 | |
-..which is funded by voluntary -donations, advertisements... | 0:40:57 | 0:41:02 | |
-..and people writing voluntarily -for the website... | 0:41:02 | 0:41:06 | |
-..and contributing what they can. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
-I hope the website can grow into -a worthwhile journalistic resource. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
-If we all rely on Facebook bubbles -for our news... | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
-..where we only see views -that suit us... | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
-..according to Ifan, future debates -will become more divisive. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:25 | |
-The recent fall-out about Ysgol -Llangennech is evidence of that. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:30 | |
-This was Llangennech -back in February. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
-A protest against closing -the school's English stream... | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
-..to turn it into a Welsh-medium -school from September. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
-There was a Facebook page opposing -the changes in Llangennech. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:47 | |
-The members were reiterating each -other's opposition to the changes. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:55 | |
-Previously, this conversation would -have happened on a social level... | 0:41:55 | 0:42:00 | |
-..within the community. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
-People would have heard opposite -views to theirs in the community... | 0:42:02 | 0:42:07 | |
-..and they might not have been -so opposed to the changes. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
-Even discussions about -local politics are changing... | 0:42:11 | 0:42:15 | |
-..because of global influences. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
-Here's one final story, a preview -of what could happen in the future. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:23 | |
-Yes, this really did happen. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
-Even humorous websites -are being dragged into the debate. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
-Lots of people have set up websites -to poke fun... | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
-..but people read them without -realising that it's all a joke. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:40 | |
-Ben is one -who's already taken that step. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
-He set up a humorous website -called Warped Wales. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
-The purpose of it was to make -as many people laugh as possible... | 0:42:48 | 0:42:53 | |
-..to take what's topical in the area -or wider... | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
-..and to mix a bit of humour -into it as well. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
-A bit of irony and sarcasm -and people have really taken to it. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:05 | |
-Some people don't see the joke and -share the articles as news stories. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:12 | |
-My intentions were to make it -openly funny from the outset. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
-I didn't want to deceive anyone -into thinking it was real. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 | |
-I soon realised that it -didn't matter what I write... | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
-..somebody somewhere -will think it's real. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
-It doesn't matter -how absurd it is... | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
-..there is somebody -who will think it's real. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
-There was a story about Donald -Trump setting up a points system... | 0:43:32 | 0:43:37 | |
-..for accepting people -from different countries. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
-I wrote a story -about setting up a system... | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
-..for accepting shoppers -from Wrexham. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
-I wanted to limit -how many people from Wrexham... | 0:43:46 | 0:43:50 | |
-..were coming into the city. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
-Somebody put, "I wanted to go -to B&M in Chester on Saturday. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:56 | |
-"How can -I get around this visa thing?" | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
-What? Are you serious?! | 0:43:59 | 0:44:00 | |
-One story Ben wrote last year -was read over a million times. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:06 | |
-It created a stir. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
-The article claimed that a Pokemon -GO battle had broken out on the M56. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:15 | |
-Because of the way -I'd written the headline... | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
-..I hadn't intended to make it look -real, but people thought it was. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:23 | |
-People were avoiding the M56... | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
-..because they thought -there was a lot of congestion... | 0:44:26 | 0:44:30 | |
-..because of this Pokemon GO battle. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
-People were reporting it -on the radio. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:35 | |
-In hindsight I realised -that it looked real on social media. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:42 | |
-It has also exposed a group -of Internet users... | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
-..in Wales and across the UK... | 0:44:45 | 0:44:48 | |
-..that won't fact check, they won't -look into things properly. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:54 | |
-They will share things -at face value. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
-It's had a positive effect -because people are interested... | 0:44:57 | 0:45:01 | |
-..in reading the content -because they find it funny... | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
-..but it has exposed the way -that people use the Internet. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:09 | |
-For the short time I've been -away from the news desk... | 0:45:11 | 0:45:14 | |
-..I've been surprised by the scale -and complexity of fake news. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:18 | |
-It includes articles written -by youngsters in Macedonia... | 0:45:19 | 0:45:23 | |
-..to try and grab American -interest and advertising clicks... | 0:45:24 | 0:45:28 | |
-..along with jokes from Wales -which confuse one or a million. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:33 | |
-This world is growing -and becoming more complex... | 0:45:33 | 0:45:37 | |
-..as technology becomes simpler -and easier to use. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:41 | |
-If you want to become -a journalist these days... | 0:45:43 | 0:45:46 | |
-..all you need is a mobile phone -and the Internet. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:50 | |
-You can then broadcast to the world. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:52 | |
-Democratising the news is exciting -offering new opportunities in Wales. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:57 | |
-It all goes hand in hand -with an explosion in fake news. | 0:45:57 | 0:46:01 | |
-There's nothing new in trying -to influence news content... | 0:46:01 | 0:46:06 | |
-..and there are financial gains -for writing lies. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
-It's difficult -for large technology companies... | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
-..to stay ahead of the fakers. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
-There are big changes afoot... | 0:46:23 | 0:46:25 | |
-..but the work of collecting -and presenting news continues. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:30 | |
-If you don't know who to trust... | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
-..new faces and brands -might be a welcome change. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
-Next, a look at some of the stories -outside Wales. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:41 | |
-S4C Subtitles by Adnod Cyf. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
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