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This is Business Live from the BBC

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with Ben Thompson and Aaron Heslehurst.

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Lawmakers consider new rules in California that could limit how

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Could it signal the end of $25 billion rental site AirBnB?

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Live from London, that's our top story on 3rd November 2015.

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AirBnB has spent $8 million to try and defeat

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the possible new rules and it's all being closely watched by cities

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They're also considering tightening regulations.

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Also in the programme, Standard Chartered is to cut 15,000

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jobs after reporting heavy third-quarter losses.

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We'll be live in Singapore for the latest.

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And markets are doing this. We will get construction figures for the UK

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a little later. Icelandic airline Wow Air promises

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flights from Europe to the US But how can

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the airline afford it and are We speak to the boss live here

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on the programme. And today, Amazon has announced

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plans to open its first So when did you last buy a book

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and was it online or in a store? The accommodation website AirBnB has

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shaken up the global travel industry - but

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in its home town of San Francisco Residents are due to vote later

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on Tuesday on a proposal to limit short-term rentals on apartments

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and homes to just 75 days per year with the websites themselves

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responsible for removing listings The

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company has spent 8 million dollars The ballot is being closely watched

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by cities like New York and Los Angeles, which are also considering

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tightening regulations. And this is what is making some

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locals in San Francisco angry. Over the past five years, average

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rent has risen by more than 75%,

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with sites like AirBnB being blamed Of course,

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AirBnB isn't the only example of a sharing economy platform

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facing regulatory challenges - don't forget Uber's facing

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regulatory issues in France, Brazil Raoul Lumb, Associate at

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Hill Hofstetter solicitors. I want to start with the chart Ben

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was showing us. Candy company be blamed for pushing rental prices?

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Those on the yes campaign will see that in five years they have gone up

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75%. Their campaign is that the company allows people to take houses

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out of the regular rental market of long-term latent tenants and push

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them into their holiday sector for short-term, quick turnover

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high-priced rentals. They say it pushes up. Airbnb has been around

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for seven years there has been a housing crisis for five years. They

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say that they cannot be doing it because they are pushing up the

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supply, and therefore they are bringing housing prices down.

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I'm just trying to work out, there is a valid point of some will say

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here, because many who rent their home made, or a second home, Philly

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under Airbnb, it is running a business. Typically, you have to pay

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something when you run a business, it is called taxation! That is what

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they have been getting away with? That is what the yes campaign says.

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If you're somebody who rent out your house for more than 75 days a year,

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a homeless, not just a room, they say that this is a business and

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something which should be regulated like a hostel or B and it should

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be taxed and have the same reporting requirements that businesses have.

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'S the issue at the moment is the fact that it is often more lucrative

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for people to rent out their place on a short-term lead, make a lot

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more money for it to visitors, rather than for the domestic

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population. That has got people in San Francisco so angry. They are

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being priced out of the market because all these tourists coming in

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for two weeks and they cannot get anywhere to rent.

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That is one of the things this proposition says. Airbnb of other

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mining communities in the bullets, forcing people who would be on

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long-term lets and turning it into a short-term holiday site. Very

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briefly, you mentioned this in your introduction, Goober is facing

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regulation in many cities around the world, Airbnb as well. Is this a

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classic case of the law, regulation, trying to catch up with technology

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because it is Goodwin Sands bones? Absolutely. This is the law and

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public disgraced catching up with technology and marketing of the

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technology. There has been a share in economy, such as Uber, would you

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mentioned, and regulators in society are keeping. Is the way this company

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does this desirable because it need extra oversight? This is the first

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step on a long journey. Great stuff, we appreciate your time. Thank you

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very much for coming in. US video games producer

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Activision Blizzard will buy the company behind Candy Crush -

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King Digital - for $5.9 billion. Activision which makes Call of Duty

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and Guitar Hero, says the purchase will create one

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of the largest global entertainment It will have over half a billion

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monthly users in 196 countries. Here is a story that keeps on

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giving. Volkswagen has denied claims by US

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regulators that some of its luxury brands were also fitted with devices

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to cheat pollution tests. The Environmental Protection Agency

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said at least 10,000 vehicles with six cylinder,

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three litre engines, such as Tech giant Google has announced

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a date for the launch It's called Project Wing and aims to

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deliver goods to consumers using the Not as far as you would think.

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Others are experimenting. Does it depend on where you live?

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What if you live in an apartment? You have to hang out of the window!

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, thank you! BMW has a surprise profit. We are talking about the

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past three months, it has had a strong field in the European

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market. Offsetting that weakness in demand in China. What was the

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profit? Before tax, this is, 2.2 billion euros. Thank you very much,

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there you go. Revenue, 22.3 billion. Plenty of other stories there,

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including more on Standard Chartered. But that is our next

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story of love. -- story as well. Standard Chartered is to to cut

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15,000 jobs and raise over $5bn See what I did there?

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This is a really big clean-up and I should tell you how the share prices

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responded to that cling to start with, because these are then slung

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around 4% in trade in Hong Kong. It clawed back a bit. We have caused

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just recently in Hong Kong down more than 3% and are continuing to slide

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in London. But this is a clean-up that has been going for quite a

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while. Ever since the new CEO took over in the middle of the year. And

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this capital raising is not unexpected. Many people have been

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seeing it on the card since June. He started the restructure but today's

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members illustrate the scale of the problem. $139 million compared with

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a profit of 1.53 billion just one year earlier. We get this big

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capital raising and a lot more jobs are going to go.

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Good stuff, thank you very much. A quick look at the numbers. A bit

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of a mixed session in Asia, despite cautious optimism. We have seen weak

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Chinese domestic demand over the weekend but we have also had good

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figures from manufacturing in the UK, and the Eurozone yesterday. I

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want to trade the European numbers because markets yesterday ending

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pretty upbeat but in early trade, from the loss of there. Nonetheless

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we will be keeping a clear, -- a close eye on construction figures,

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due in the next hour, giving us an idea on how the market and economy

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is performing stock it makes up just a small part of the economy,

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however. What is happening on Wall Street?

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On Tuesday, we will see how close US auto-maker are to breaking the

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all-time Celtic are set in 2000. Analysts expect Americans love but

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11% more crisis October compared to last year and are on track by 17.4

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million vehicles in 2050. But for some companies it is another story.

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Tesla will release numbers on orders for its model X all electric SUV and

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give an update on the status of its five million dollar battery factory

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in Nevada. Those men and voters at the polls in San Francisco to decide

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whether or not to restrict the number of knife landlords can rent

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their homes to Airbnb and similar services. They have spent $8 million

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campaigning against the measure. We know that one! I am joking. We

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are joined by Jessica. Manufacturing, a big day yesterday

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but stop we will be watching the markets closely. Very closely. All

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that about this year has been emerging markets. Disappointing and

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everybody is turning to the developed markets to spearhead the

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growth. We have been talking to some US companies and the message is a

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bit mixed. There is definitely a benefit from lower oil price but

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actually, consumers are not spending as much as we thought. How much are

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we hanging onto these individual bits of data? We are wondering who

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will fire the starting first raising rates, the UK or US, and every time

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we get figures by construction, manufacturing, we get very excited

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about whether this is the one that means rates go up. How closely

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should we watch them? Rate rises, when they happen, whether first in

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the US or UK, will be a seminal moment. They have been low for so

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long. But I think the thing that we have learned a this recession is

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that it has been what I would call a bath tub. We have been bumping along

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the bottom for a long time. Rate rises have been pushed out try that.

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I am not sure that pattern is necessarily going to change that

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quickly. Jessica, you know how we make you guys work on our programme!

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You'll come back and taken through some of the papers. You will talk to

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you soon. Also coming up: Apostles and Atlantic Elaine will be

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sure to tell of how he intends to crack the market for cheap flights

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between the US and Europe. Many of course have tried and failed. Will

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this one be a success? You're with Business Live from BBC

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news. Was neither is an important battle going on in the cut-throat

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world of children's toys relating to intellectual property rights and the

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outcome will be watched coarsely around

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have you ever heard of Trunkie? It is a cross between a toy and

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luggage. I have seen them throughout

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airports. But the product, designed in the UK, has become a victim of

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its own success, spawning copycat manufacturers with rival designs.

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The company that owns the Trunkie may spend more money fighting

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patents battle than on research and development.

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Astonishing. Today, here before the Court hoping to shut down the

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biggest rivals, PMS of Hong Kong. We have run through...

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You have not left me much to the! If you are a parent of young

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children, as I am, you will be familiar with these products. Both

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Trunkie, on the left, by a Bristol company, and the PMS- made on the

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right-hand side. They are relatively simple. The horns, you can sit on it

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and try it. But PMS is pretty open and honest and say that their design

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was inspired by the Trunkie. They took the matter to the courts in the

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UK, one in the High Court, lost in the Appeal Court and today, they are

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in the Supreme Court in the UK and they will hopefully get a determined

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ruling as to what is permitted. If Trunkie wins the case, it means that

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PMS's case cannot longer be sold and the UK, and possible Europe. We

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stress that it does not mean they cannot sell them elsewhere around

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the world, especially Asia, where they are from. But it is a very

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important case for these designs, because this is not a patents, this

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is a community registered design. And a lot of people who design stuff

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very best a lot of money in this, so need to know that what the designers

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protected all around the world, not the UK. 'S great stuff. We will

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thought to you soon. Shall we pick up this? You are

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domestic by! The honour of Primark has figures

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out today. You're watching Business Live.

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Our top story: Lawmakers consider new rules

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in California that could limit how It's one of a number

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of court cases seeking to crack down on the business which lets

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anyone make money renting out spare Could it signal the end

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of $25 billion website Airbnb? An interesting story. It could have

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implications for websites like YouTuber.

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Now can you really fly to Boston from London for as little as ?99?

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Well, that's the claim of today's big boss Skuli Mogensen.

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He is the owner, Chief Executive and founder

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After a 20 year career as an entrepreneur and investor, he

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Describing itself as "the airline with the biggest smile

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Wow Air launched transatlantic services from Boston and

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Washington DC to European cities all via Reykjavik in early 2015 for

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as little as ?99 that's just over a $150 one way.

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From May next year, it launches four more north American routes.

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Most notably, those ?99 prices are for one-way flights.

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While Iceland is a beautiful country, it's safe to assume most

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travellers will be interested in a return flight and that often

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The cheapest seats are also limited in number.

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The budget airline is not the first to bet

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Others have tried and failed Oasis Hong Kong Airlines, which began

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flights between Hong Kong and London in 2006, ceased trading in 2008,

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the same year that Zoom Airlines of Canada which offered cheap flights

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between London and Canada also stopped operations.

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Well, let's find out because Skuli Mogensen is the big boss of Wow Air

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and joins us. Hi. I'm going to show off a little

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Danish language. I need to start with this. No disrespect, you look

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like a smart man, you have got a great background, you are a money

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man, you have come from an investment background. There is a

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saying in the airline industry, "How do you make $1 million running an

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airline, you start with $1 billion." Why an airline? It is so much fun.

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In reality, the timing is everything. So the low-cost industry

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has been extremely successful domestically in Europe and

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domestically in the US and domestically in Asia. As a result

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the consumer is educated and we like to say we target the smart consumer,

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you go online and you do the comparison shopping and you go on

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Trip Advisor, and then you buy. So the consumers are comfortable doing

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this and the same logic applies when you want to fly long haul, short

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haul, wherever you want to go. Zbleu spoke to you roughly a year ago,

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pretty close to a year ago when you were talking about, well launching

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the flights from Europe to Boston and Washington DC. Right. So you've

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had a year. Bums on seats, how has it been going on board the planes?

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It has been going phonomenally. We are growing aggressively. We are

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more than doubling our capacity for next year. Adding Los Angeles and

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San Francisco, adding three new Airbus A 330s, we are excited. The

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load factor on Boston... What are the load factors? Over 90% since

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launch to date. Speaking of capacity, I did a quick very

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unscientific search looking on various websites about reviews and

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satisfaction. A lot of the criticism is that you only have two planes at

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the moment doing that route. The problem is if you get a fault with

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one, that causes huge delays, you're not able to pull another one into

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service. Houz do you reassure people if they are getting a cheap flight,

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yes they are going to have to put up with certain problems, but if you

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have only got two planes, there will be huge delays if one goes out of

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service? So far we had two planes going to North America. As of next

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spring, we will seven planes going to North America. So already, that

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issue is becoming much, much better and over time that's only going to

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continue to improve. I think the again, it's something that we all

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face coming into London yesterday, or the day before, with the fog, you

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know, we can't deal with the weather.

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Talking of planes, let me ask you this, last week I spoke to the CEO

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of Norwegian Air, a competitor. They do long haul, low-cost, they use the

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787 Dreamliner, very efficient plane, etcetera, it can be used 18

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to 19 hours a day, utilisation rate, they call that, so that's very good.

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You're doing a 330, been around for a long time. Can you make low-cost,

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long haul successful on that aircraft? Absolutely. I think the

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same principle applies. High utilisation and quick turn around

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and high load numbers. You achieve this which interacting with the

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consumer and offering the greatest fares. They are demonstrating and

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proving the model. Low-cost carriers do very well when the oil price is

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low. It means your costs are much lower. What happens when they start

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rising? It suddenly starts eating into your margins and you make less

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per flight? A good low-cost carrier will do better in all times because

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our overall structure is better than the legacy carriers. Good luck. I

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know you're in London for the World Travel Market. Skuli Mogensen, thank

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you. In a moment we'll take

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Jessica is back. Amazon famous for being an line book store. I put the

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question out there, we have got a couple of tweets. Before we get your

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thoughts, Ryan says "Last book online to make sure I got it on

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release date." Another viewer says, "Always buy them in shops. If I

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can't find them there, grudgingly, I result to online bookshops." James

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says he bought a first edition online. Independent shops have

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pretty much died off. All that is related to the buying power of

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Amazon, if they are able to get the scale that they have through the

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website and maybe put the best titles in is that the plan snrchlts

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they will be at the same prices as they have online. It is toe in the

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water really. One bookshop. But it is also interesting about drop that

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e-book sales are peeking and so actually, you know, as your tweeters

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there say that people like the physical experience of going into a

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shop. You know, you will still be able to do the e-books in there, but

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it is a dual track process is perhaps the way forward.

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A lot of people would have blamed Amazon for the closure of bricks and

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more tar bookshops. They have dominated online in terms of book

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sales. Now let's go into bricks and more tar and whoever is left, we'll

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get rid of them. No comment. Let's move on. The story in the Wall

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Street Journal this is to do with Candy Crush. Really interesting.

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This follows on the back of Microsoft buying Minecraft. Big

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companies are preparing to invest in the gaming space and in particular,

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in the gaming space. I think the interesting thing about the price,

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it was below the floatation price of King when it floated. I think again,

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that was last year. So they have struggled since Candy Crush and it

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is interesting they are taking the option to be part of a bigger group.

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Talking about big spending, I want to squeeze this next story in, Saudi

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consumers are spending like the oil crash never happened. They have a

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lot of oil wealth. We are seeing a movement with Saudi sovereign wealth

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funds. They are taking money out to maintain the spending on their

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population? Exactly. We see impressed about the Saudi repaytry

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ating capital back. They are still giving bonuses and a lot out to the

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locals. But again, I think you need to think about the social unrest in

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the backdrop and it will be an important consideration in their

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minds. Is it keeping the local population happy? Within Saudi and

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within the wider region. I think they will be thinking perhaps, you

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know, this is cheap for stability. The question, of course, always is

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how long that can continue with oil prices at a new normal levels and

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whether they can continue? The funds only have so much money in them.

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Jessica, great stuff, we always appreciate your time.

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Thank you for your company today. You're up-to-date with the business

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headlines. We will see you very soon. Bye-bye.

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Hello there. The fog caused a lot of problems yesterday across much of

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the countriment we had sunny hotspots

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