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This is business live from BBC News. BW veers further off course,

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the German car-maker admits another 800,000 Kashi inconsistencies, this

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time relating to carbon dioxide emissions with petrol engines. That

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is our top story on Wednesday the 4th of November. From diesel to

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petrol as the VW scandal spreads, so does the costs. A breach of carbon

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dioxide regulations could hit the car giant to the tune of $2 billion,

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we will have the very latest, also in the programme, another scandal,

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Takata will be paying $17 million over its failure to disclose in

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summation over exploding airbags and hundreds of injuries around the

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world. And in the markets, there is a mixed picture emerging, we will

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discuss the winners and losers. And how do you run a business amid

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riots, protests, economic collapse and volatile politics, we will speak

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to a man, whose job, is to keep businesses on track despite that.

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And as the VW crisis deepens, we want to know would you ever buy a

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false bargain again? Is the brand is damaged beyond repair. Vaults

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a very warm welcome to the programme, another day, another

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twist in the Volkswagen emissions gamble, the German car giant has

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discovered what it calls inconsistencies in 800,000 of its

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cars in Europe which are in breach of carbon dioxide regulations, this

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time it is both diesel and petrol cars that are involved, that the

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company has yet to give a breakdown. VW is saying that it is looking at a

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$2.2 billion bill to fix this problem at BMW, Audi, bolts bargain,

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and others. That is largely because it is more costly than doing a

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software update, which is the case with the so-called emissions

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cheating software. This has to do with the way that the fuel is

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consumed by the car, which means that the cars are not as

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fuel-efficient as they claim to be. Joining us now is our business

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editor, they call them irregularities but it gets worse and

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worse for VW? It does, Sally's point is correct, this is a bad fuel

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efficiency, the claims that the cars make to them and inns of customers

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about what Miles per gallon this car does, it also said last night, that

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this could affect a far wider range of car types. Not just the two litre

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diesel engines but the 1.4 litre engines, diesel and possibly also

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petrol. That opens up a whole new category of engine for VW. They have

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also spoken about the issue of how, petrol, and carbon dioxide emissions

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could affect the way that those cars operate and the fact that it will be

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a lot more costly to fix these cars. ?1.4 billion is set aside for this,

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it is far higher per car to fix this car. I think it does stretch the

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credibility of the notion that this was down to a Hugh Rogue engineers.

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This has moved on from the issue of nitrogen, monoxide, pollution

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levels, into the whole way that carbon dioxide and fuel efficiency

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issues, happened. Then that means that it could be more systemic

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within VW. As you said, VW putting a figure on what they think it will

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cost, we have seen in previous scandals, that cost just grows and

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grows, this is very much an initial estimate? If you remember back to BP

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when the crisis happened, that he initially was put at a few billions

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of dollars, in terms of the cost of that crisis, it ended up being $50

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billion. Nobody knows where this problem will go for VW, but this

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notion that it is starting at $5 billion and will stay at that number

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is difficult to believe, some people have put the estimate as high as $60

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billion. Whether it will be that high, nobody yet knows. 400,000 cars

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it started with in America, it then became the 11 million cars worldwide

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and now a further 800,000 cars, each announcement says that the problem

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is not getting better, it is getting worse. White briefly, the thing that

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we cannot put a value on, is the cost to the damage of the reputation

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of the brand, and to the company, it is difficult to see how they can

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rebuild trust? It is, the new chief executive has said that he wants

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absolute honesty and transparency now, but the more honesty and

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transparency they have, the bigger the damage to their brand. VW so

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far, there does not seem to have been an effect on the sales, it is a

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very strong brand, it is going from a high base but every bit of bad

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news undermines trust. There has also been a broader issue, how many

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other manufacturers have been looking at CO2 emissions issues, and

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trying to make sure that their cars look a lot better in the laboratory

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than on the road. Thank you. Let us look at another car company that is

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in dire straits, it is actually a car parts provider, Japanese

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company, it is displaying $70 million over its failure to talk

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about exploding airbags. It could face another fine of a if more data

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is found, 20 million of the airbags have been recalled since 2008 and

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have been linked with AIDS deaths and hundreds of injuries throughout

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the world. And the electric car maker Tesla, have jumped 75%, after

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reporting better than figures. 11,600 cars in the second quarter as

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it rolled out the model X SUV, the loss was $230 million. The biggest

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loss in ten quarters. And the battle by some San Francisco residents

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fighting the move to reduce the number of days that they can rent

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out their homes using Head B Votes are in, they have defeated the

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controversial bill but it was very close, 55% voted against the rules,

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campaigners expected the figure to be much higher. Let us take you to

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the business live page. The story we have just mentioned, an update on

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that air B victory, proposal to ban the site, being defeated --

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AirB Check out the business live page, you will notice that it is

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dominated by news from Marks Spencer, one of the biggest

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retailers in the UK, expansion around the world, but it is a

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familiar story, sales of food rising slightly blocked clothing sales down

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once again. It is expanding its food offering, but womenswear remains

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particularly one of the biggest issues for the firm. Now onto a big

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success at least a day for the Japanese government because shares

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of Japan Post jumped nearly 26% on the trading debut, after the company

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and the banking insurance unit, raised 1.4 yen trillion in dollars,

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about $12 billion in the world's largest initial public offering this

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year. We have got the details. A success story as Sally was saying?

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Indeed, in fact, shares in the banking unit were hired by as much

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as 40% at one point today, so it has definitely been a very successful

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trading debut, we will monitor if this kind of hype is sustainable but

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not only was it the world's biggest share sale, it was also the biggest

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asset sale by the Japanese government in three decades. It has

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taken more than ten years since the former Prime Minister decided to

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privatise Japan Post. It was a very controversial move, partly because

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it is a very wealthy institution that has been used by a lot of

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politicians as a piggy bank to fund their projects which resulted in

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Japan's huge debt, it is controversial but it is finally

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going ahead. Thank you so much. Let us look at the numbers now, what has

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been going on overnight. Japan up by 1.3%, the big winner is Japan Post.

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Takata shares were hit very hard, also Hong Kong up, 2.5%. And there

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has been a bit of confusion about what the People's Bank of China had

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to say on some of its comedic Asians about future stimulus for the

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Chinese economy, actually it was a very old announcements, but it was

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felt through the market because it was thought to be a new announcement

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but it wasn't. Your tix pectic to trade much higher. As you can see,

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it is quite a mixed day -- Europe expected to trade much higher. VW

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shares will be trading today in a very volatile manner, because of the

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latest about VW. We are now in the US, looking ahead to the day on Wall

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Street. Usually when federal chairman Janet Yellen, speaks,

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people are looking out, but on Wednesday she is likely to grab

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attention for another reason. While testifying at the house financial

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affairs committee, almost sensibly to come up, is that financial

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information was leaked from the Fed ahead sensitive moments. Janet

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Yellen has handed over documents to the panel of lawmakers. And despite

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increased spending on its Mobot haps, and data is expected to show

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that the trade deficit is expected to narrow sharply. That was New

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York. We have now got somebody who is an investment direct at Aberdeen

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asset management. Staying with that American theme, we have got a lot of

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jobs data on Friday, manufacturing and the services update. The Fed did

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say that all of their decisions would be data

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Dependent. We are never short of data in the United States, Janet

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Yellen in her last Conference said that they would watch carefully the

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data coming up in the next few weeks. Thinking about their

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deliberations on the rise in US interest rates, the price of money

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in the world's largest economy is extremely important, when that price

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rises it is also important. Expectations have been for the

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interest rates to increase next year but recent utterances from Janet

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year and his suggests that it might be into December rather than next

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year. Just briefly, European markets, what is on the minds of

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investors? Probably like the US, running through the Q3 results,

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investors are microscopically focused on how companies are doing,

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they are trying to learn on what is going on throughout the world and

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whether companies are making any money on the possible use like the

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difficult market conditions, over the last quarter 's. I know you'll

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be back to talk us through some of the business pages later. Still to

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come, how to manage a business in turbulent times, economic

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stability, feigning economies, wild weather and volatile politics, how

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do firms plan? We will speak to a man who is charged doing just that,

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in a few minutes on business live with BBC News. First let us get some

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more details on Marks Spencer, sales down in the six months to

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September, like-for-like sales fell by 0.4%, general merchandise

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includes coving, they were down 1.2% but food sales rose by 0.2%. The

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underlying profit figure is up by 6%, 280 formerly in pounds. Let us

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now speak to our business unit. Just reading between the lines, how good

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or bad is this? As ever with Marks and Spencer it is something of a

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mixed picture, yes underlying profits are up, profit margins are

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up, but those key women where sales are down. Mark Bolland, the Chief

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Executive, I spoke to him this morning, you said this is good news

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for Marks Spencer. Yes, they might be selling fewer things but every

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item they sold they sell at a greater profit and it must be said

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that investors like what they have seen. You can see from the share

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price, up 19p this morning, that is something like 3.5%. It has been

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going up today after these results, they have had quite a positive share

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price run over the whole year, that is because Marks Spencer have made

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a virtue out of necessity. Whatever they do, they cannot get those women

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where sales up, but what they can do is make sure that the profit margin

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is higher which increases the profit margins for the company and the cash

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flow, and that means that Mark Bolland can say to investors that we

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are doing a very good job in a tough market. Final thought, food sales

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are up in a tough market, investors are saying so far that they like

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what M are saying this morning. Thank you. Staying with that theme,

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just one story to bring to you, Burberry, the fashion retailer is to

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open a further factory in Yorkshire, the factory will be opened near

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Leeds, completed, by 2020. The company already has two factories in

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York, and it employs about 800 staff currently, Burberry is one of the

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big UK success stories around the world. A real turnaround for the

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company of late. Yorkshire, a vote of confidence. For the county. This

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is business live, our top stories, the Volkswagen emission scandal has

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taken another dramatic turn, they have admitted irregularities in a

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number of carbon dioxide used by 800,000 cars in Europe. Yes that was

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found while the previous problems were involved with diesel, the

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problem seemed to get worse. Is the brand VW damaged beyond repair? Lots

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of comments for you? Looking at the news you would be forgiven for

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thinking that the world is a much more date was placed than it was say

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ten years ago. Chances are that you are poultry right, according to the

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World Economic Forum, geopolitical tensions still dominate the risks of

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tensions in 2015. They list the four other most likely global risks as

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extreme weather events, failure of national governance, state

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collapse, and then, unemployment, or underemployment. So what do you do

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if you are a multinational company or a business thinking about

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expanding global footprint? How do you manage those risks? The man who

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can answer that, is the chief executive of the risk advisory

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group, nice to see you. We outline some of the issues that businesses

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face when they look to expand throughout the world, it is a bit

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mind-boggling, you start looking at the global market, where do you even

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start? Clearly opening a factory Yorkshire is very different to

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buying in Kazakhstan, but most business decisions need to be based

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on the most credible evidence that you can take. Depending on the type

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of business, the type of facility, on whether you are an extractive

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industry or a telecoms industry, the amount of resorts, you are going to

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have two transfer it can be very different. You have two match the

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environment against the resource requirement, look at the funding

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around those issues and make some pretty clear determination. We were

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just looking at some of the key elements in terms of risk, when I

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was talking to you earlier, about what is most on the minds of those

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who are running businesses when they are thinking about business, they

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were saying that regulation is one of the big issues, and your

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background as a barrister and then working for various government

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agencies, gives you that insight into how that all operate? Clearly

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there is a tension because all businesses now seeking to look for

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new market opportunities, they have got to go to difficult and dangerous

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environments to Strat all new markets to sell, Indonesia with a

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population of 250 million. You want to be there. But at the same time

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the government has imposed more and more regulations, more policy and

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procedure around bribery and corruption and money-laundering, it

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has transferred the responsibility to corporate is to insure that those

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policy decisions are complied with so there is an internal conflict, so

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that you can drive new business growth, complying with the

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regulatory risks around that. We talk about planning for risk or

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planning strategies for expansion overseas as if it is something that

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we can quantify, I would imagine that there are a lot of events that

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nobody can see. Even things like Ukraine and Russia, nobody

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necessarily saw that coming, how do you prepare? It is difficult because

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the terminology is Black Swan, how do you prepare for it? It could be

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the Russia-the Ukraine situation, how do you actually plan for that?

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If you look at those circumstances, essentially companies get it wrong.

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I would advocate, that Volkswagen have got it wrong by

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going very quickly to the newspapers as saying that it is a small issue.

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There is a lack of thought and planning process as to how you

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respond to that, probably because a lot of CEOs are not interested

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improper is, they are interested in how they grow their business. In MBA

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courses they spend a lot of time about -- they don't spend a lot of

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time about what happens if there is a very bad happened. On other things

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on the mind of global business leaders is Iran opening up to future

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business, it is something that many of your clients are talking to you?

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Iran presents a fascinating opportunity, they have got 140

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billion in cash that will become free, they have got a very educated

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population, they have got a young population that is consumer

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oriented, they have got a very old infrastructure, they have got huge

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natural resources, companies are queueing up literally, there is

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clearly a difference between European businesses and US

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businesses in terms of different sanctions which is creating tension.

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So what are the risks, if I was to try and launch my business in Iran?

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One of the problems in Irani is that it has been essentially a police

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state for a number of years, so the access to information to make

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informed business decisions is just not there. Working through the

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intersection between politics, religion, business environment,

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working through who controls assets, how you manage those transactions,

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against a background of a lack of critical data, is quite a difficult

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question. But it is a market and people will take risk. We will watch

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closely, thank you, really interesting stuff. That was the

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Chief Executive of the risk advisory group. In a moment, we will beat

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taking a look through the business pages but this is a quick reminder

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of how you can stay in touch and keep across business stories. The

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business live pages how you can stay ahead with the breaking business

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news, we will keep you up-to-date with all of the latest business news

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with insight and analysis from the BBC News editor is right around the

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world and we want to hear from you too. Get involved on the BBC

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business live web page. You can find us on Twitter and Facebook. Business

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live, on TV and online whenever you need to know. Richard is back. There

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you are, to talk about some of the stories in the papers but before we

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do that let us mention some of your tweets. So this is James Newman who

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has been in touch" growing up, VW whenever a strong brand for me, this

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reaffirms that, why have VW when you can have a Merc or an Audi?". "Yes I

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would still buy VW, there are various things that can have an

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effect but this is just one problem for a business and they will get

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over it". Another one "clearly they need to dig down and find out who is

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responsible, or can they really just blame rogue engineers? People at the

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company clearly knew what was going on". Would you still buy VW? As the

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Chinese economy slows, consumers pick up some of the slack. Which is

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exactly what the government wants? Yes they have been trying to move to

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a consumer led economy, people have been concerned, it is to growing

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strongly, without a move to a consumer led economy, there are

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still a lot of people happy to spend the money. Particularly the

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youngsters and that will lead to a solid growth figure. Yes, I will try

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and make it bigger, we are talking about the power of the purse

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strings. Clearly, demand for flights is increasing, movies, Samaras. Even

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though the overall economy is falling slightly and it is that

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growth in that middle class which is so important for China. Huge

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burgeoning middle class? If you are focused in the Chinese economy on

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exports and things are properly a bit tough at the moment.

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Particularly if you are young and you have fewer liabilities then you

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have got money in your pocket. Some of these growth figures in cinema

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attendances and flights, would suggest that there is a desire and

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willingness to spend that money. This is one for you, it is about a

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Scottish craft beer company, brew dog, in the Financial Times. He is

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talking about his guide to being a business upstart? From personal

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experience a very good product which is always a good start for any

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company. Inoperative marketing, one of their efforts was to park a tank

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Bank of England. Which other companies would be quite interested

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in doing. They have been quite lucky in the sense that the craft beer has

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been a sweet spot, as the bigger companies have been merging and also

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pretty noted in the way that he is raising money for his company. --

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pretty and that it. His top tips, he said no networking, do not network.

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A lot of more staid companies might applaud that attitude. But

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nevertheless, he is trying, to access capital and money. In order

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to grow what is a very successful business. We did not mention his

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name, James Watt. We are up to date with the business headlines. Have a

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good day, goodbye.

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