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This is Business Live from BBC News with Victoria Fritz

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India's finance minister makes some very ambitious promises,

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but will it boost the Indian economy

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that's our top story on Monday 29th February.

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It was a populist budget to boost farmers -

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but what was in there for businesses?

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It's a strategy shift that could boost India's ruling party

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in coming state elections, but will it disappoint investors?

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Also in the programme: Millions of workers in China are set

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to lose their jobs - a high price to pay

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Also we'll bring you all the very latest from the markets,

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Plus, would you put your money in a bank with no branches,

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Well, the latest breed of challenger banks,

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as they're known, promise to disrupt the world

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We ask the boss of one new app bank just how.

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And do tell us what you think about the stories we're covering today.

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To join in the debate, just use the hashtag BBCBizLive.

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India is enjoying its economic status.

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It's overtaking China to become the world's

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This morning, the finance minister, Arun Jaitley,

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It's a populist plan to boost farming aid

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But 2016 is a year of reckoning, let's take a look why.

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Mr Jaitley says his economy would grow by 7.6 percent

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The IMF predicts growth of 7.5% for 2016 to 2017.

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But some economists doubt India will achieve that.

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And to hit growth targets, Mr Jaitley may have

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deficit to 3.5% of GDP in the coming financial year.

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The government has struggled to get reforms on tax,

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labour and land acquisition past the opposition -

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all vital to make India more prosperous.

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more to create jobs for the 1 million young Indians who join

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Victoria was outlining some of the ambitious plans of this current

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government. Tell us more about what was in the budget? The government

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recognises that the rural economy has been under stress for two years

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because there has been less than sufficient rainfall during the

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monsoon season, and that is something they have tried to fix in

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this budget. One of their aims is to double farm incomes by 2020. They

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have also talked about spending more on infrastructure and bailing out

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state-owned banks. I have with me the leader of direct access BMR

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advisers. What did you think of the budget? I think it was a sensible

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budget. The finance minister reassured us on the macroeconomic

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stability for India and made sure we are spending right and earning

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right. But was there enough in that for business? The government

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promised to ease businesses in India. I think he made a good

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commitment. He talked about the bankruptcy code being brought in. He

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talked about the first cuts which are taking place taxes. And

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importantly, he is trying to bury the ghost of Vodafone and other

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indirect transfers that has been troubling India since the

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retrospective tax came in. So he is putting a framework out there to

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have reconciliation and closure to that issue. In India, it is a lot

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about making promises, but are they being delivered? Do you think there

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is enough in that budget to keep the economy growing at more than 7% in

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the next year? If you look at how much he is planning to spend on

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roads, railways and airports, he is also talking about recapitalisation

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of the banks, which is important. I think it is a sensible package,

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which should keep us on a growth trajectory. They have talked a lot

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about spending money on the infrastructure and trying to help

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start-ups by giving them tax incentives. That is a lot of

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spending. Did you hear enough about how they will make money? On the

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making of money, he has shied away from trying to increase tax rates,

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especially indirect tax rates. So there is concern about that. He has

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also made it clear that he has to stick to fiscal deficit targets that

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have been set for him. So he is confident that there will be

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sufficient buoyancy in the economy and sufficient headroom on tax

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collections. And let's not forget, here's hoping that the oil subsidy

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burden continues to work in his favour. That was something they had

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not counted on in the year past and in the year coming ahead, that if

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oil prices remain low, that will be a big boost for India. Thank you for

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now. Yogita will be tweeting and posting throughout the day.

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Finance ministers from the world's leading economies met at the G20

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Few concrete measures emerged from the meeting,

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but policymakers agreed that ultra-low interest rates were not

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enough to bring the global economy out of its slump.

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Industrial production in Japan has risen for the first time in three

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months, according to the latest government data.

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Manufacturing output rose 3.7% in January,

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but the statistics pointed to weakness in the Japanese retail

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We have some news out of Germany. Speaking of retail, these are retail

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sales figures coming out of Germany, helping grow expectations about how

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the economy is going to do. It is Europe's largest economy and we have

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seen exports slow, so there has been concern as to where the driver of

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growth will come from. It is something we are seeing across the

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Eurozone. In Germany, retail sales grew by 0.7% month on month in

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January. We will discuss those issues later.

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China's economy is back in the spotlight.

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It expects to lay off millions of workers in the coal and steel

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sectors to tackle massive industrial oversupply.

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This comes as the G20 finance ministers and central bankers

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promise to do more to revive the global economy -

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Let's start with what is going on with China, and announcements that

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we will see massive job cuts. It is a huge price to pay. It is a huge

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price to pay. The numbers we saw today were the first time we got

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specific numbers from China's government. It is reported that they

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will lay off around 1.8 million workers in the coal and steel

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sectors. There is no time frame for that, but that is as China tries to

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cut back on oversupply in its industrial sectors. You talked about

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the G20. The finance ministers met in Shanghai. They promise to do

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more, when it comes to China, it was not a convincing cell for investors.

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Today, Shanghai dropped nearly 3%. Earlier in the day, it hit a 15

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month low, which is saying something for Shanghai. So while we did not

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expect the G20 to boost markets, there was a distinct lack of any

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detail that might have given some confidence about future growth.

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Chinese bourses made a sour start to the week.

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The lack of any real good news from the G20 meeting means we're

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seeing more volatility, more investors looking to safer

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So the traditional safe havens of gold and the yen are stronger.

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This is how the week is opening up across Europe.

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Let's hear from Michelle Fleury aout what will be making

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It is a busy week ahead, even with fourth-quarter earnings

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The campaigns are moving into high gear as the focus

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of the US presidential election turns to Super Tuesday.

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That is the day in the election cycle when Democrats and Republicans

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hold the most primary votes on one day.

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For economists, some more traditional

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fare in the shape of the latest manufacturing data for February.

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The strong dollar, low commodity prices

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and weak demand continue to weigh on the sector.

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And still hungry for another glimpse of the health of the US economy?

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Well, you won't have to wait too long.

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The other big economic report this week is this

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The numbers are expected to show more hiring gains,

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while the pace of hourly wage growth may slow slightly.

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Joining us is James Hughes, Chief Market Analyst at the trading

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The markets are going down. Your thoughts? We are not seeing anything

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that positive this morning. Again, we are looking at what happened on

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Friday. Although there were positive numbers on Friday, with GDP readings

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that were OK, it is Asia yet again that is dragging us lower. We have

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the same story, China off heavily. And when that happens, we get that

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risk. Do you think there is disappointment that central bankers

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did not come up with some corporate idea to boost the global economy?

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The G20 is usually a very political thing, even when it is finance

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ministers meeting. It all tends to be a lot of hot air. We always build

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ourselves up and say we could see something, and then we are surprised

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when nothing happens. That then drags the markets down a bit.

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Speaking of more concrete things, we have data on the Eurozone coming out

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in an hour. How important will that be as a signal for stimulus measures

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we might see next month's the inflation figure is always key,

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especially for the Eurozone, because we have all these measures being put

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in by Mario Draghi which are not showing any signs of life. We want

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to see growth moving back to positives. What is in place at the

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moment is not working, so it looks like we will have to wait for yet

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another meeting to pile more stimulus into the economy to see if

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it works. James, we will see you later.

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Still to come...Appy banking - managing your money

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We ask the boss of a branchless-bank and ask is the technology trusted

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enough to ditch the good old bank branch?

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You're with Business Live from BBC News.

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Let's look at a story that is ringing alarm bells this morning.

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Almost a million jobs could be lost in Britain's retail sector by 2025.

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Millions of us are buying online and some are steering clear of high

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streets and that will have a major impact on retail jobs,

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according to the British Retail consortium.

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Tell us more about this story? There are a lot of people employed in the

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retail sector in the UK, around 3 million. 70% of all spending in the

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UK economy is on consumption. So shopping and retail really matters.

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The British Retail Consortium, which represents the big supermarkets and

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a lot of the shops we see on the British high street have put out a

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warning that nearly 900,000 jobs could go over the next decade if

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there is some sort of change to the current trend. As you were saying,

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people are shopping online, which means they are not going into town

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to buy their goods. That will affect the high street sales. But add in

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the national living wage, the rebranded minimum wage, introduced

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by Chancellor George Osborne last year. He will raise it to ?7.20 from

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April. By 2020, it will be ?9 per hour. A lot of people that work in

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the retail sector depend on the minimum wage. The PRC, the British

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Retail Consortium, say London is already paying at least that -- the

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PRC. But in more regional parts of the country, it will have a

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devastating impact, especially in Wales and the north of England,

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which depend on the national living wage. They cannot afford possibly to

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pay the ?9 per hour which will be the government minimum by 2020. So

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they say it will have a regional impact unless we look at how we do

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things. But the trend towards online shopping is irreversible. The

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question is, how do guys on the high street manage? Joke, thank you very

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much. This is tied in with that story. It is a Morrisons tie-up with

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Amazon to give it a firmer foothold in the grocery market. We know that

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Amazon has designs on the UK market here. It will of course be a big

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warning to the big online grocers. Amazon really does mean business. It

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will be interesting to see what happens with the share price of the

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supermarkets today. Their food delivery business at the moment is

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called Amazon Pantry. I imagine the tie-up with Morrisons will be a

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different offering. You're watching Business

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Live, our top story - Arun Jaitley, unveiled

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a populist budget to help He promised to spread the benefits

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of growth among India's But will India's wider economy

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and its business community benefit Now let's get the Inside Track

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on the banking sector. After the financial crisis,

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while many of the traditional lenders were busy rebuilding

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their businesses, a new breed of so-called "challenger banks"

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had started to emerge. Several of these newer start-ups

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rely on technology as opposed to traditional "bricks-and-mortar"

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branch networks. Mondo is one such business that aims

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to change the way the public carries Assuming the business is authorized

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and fully operational, it will have no branches,

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Mondo will be an app-based bank But similar to traditional banks,

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it will offer a current account So far the company has raised

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?7 million, that's $8.8 million. Joining me is Tom Blomfield,

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Chief Executive of Mondo. This is really a company in its

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infancy in the sense it is not authorised yet, but you do have bank

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cards. Tell us where you are at? We celebrated our first birthday last

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month. We have built our systems, going through the authorisation

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process, the UK regulators, one thing we wanted to do differently

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was involve our customers in the development of the bank. We have had

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life MasterCard is odd since November, we just had ?1 million

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spent with our cards and today we are announcing a crowdfunding

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campaign to let people invest in the bank. If you have the infrastructure

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in the traditional way, what happens if a customer has problems? They use

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their phone, they lose their cloud? What if they think there is fraud on

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their account? What if they want advice? Modern technology allows you

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to solve these problems seamlessly. If you lose your cloud, you can open

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the alp and top to freeze your cloud. If you find it down the side

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of the sofa, you can unfreeze it. Sometimes if you need to talk to

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someone, there will be a phone line. What if you lose your phone? We

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consider them the remote controls for our lives, but it is a rain

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problem if you lose them and even more so if your financial

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information and biking is done through one device? Worst case, you

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have your phone and called a stolen at once, there are emergency phone

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lines printed on the cloud, on the website. You can fold up and get it

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shut down. The mobile presents an opportunity to take a leap forward

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in terms of security. Every time I go abroad with my bank, by cloud

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gets blocked. My phone is in my pocket so they know I am in New

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York. What are they not more intelligent with that data? Current

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accounts are provided, overdraft facilities, is that it? Yes, that is

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it. We will not offer other products. You could not get a

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mortgage. We think that is for the best. We have these mixed incentives

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as a bike, you try to acquire customers very young and then they

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have the concept of customer ownership, they try to sell your

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product and it is rare that your bank is offering the best product.

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Our bank is more like an app store. You can get the best choice from

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across the market. You are appealing to the savvy customer, someone who

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is very confident about the decisions they make. If you purchase

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through choices at them about mortgage choices, they would be able

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to make that decision without handholding. We are appealing to

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customers who lived through their smartphones. We can present

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information at the relevant time, in the right context, to enable people

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to make their choices. Maybe there are two or three options and this

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might be the best one for you. Lots of the bigger banks are in the

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online space. They are offering this sort of service. What is it you are

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offering that is different? Also, tied in with that, how do you manage

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the data? If you are a big bag, you have the people and the

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infrastructure in place to deal with major breaches of security, you will

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not have that. I think tanks have websites and have apps, but they are

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a way for the banks to deliver a statement in a low-cost way. It is

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the same list of payments delivered on a smartphone. That is it. Really,

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the service they provide has not changed in 30 or 40 years. They see

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the mobile as a lower cost way to deliver your statement. Mobile

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banking is broader than that. People don't care about their bank, they

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care about their money. It is not just your current account, it is

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your discount and loyalty data. It is your entire financial life. In

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terms of security. We have talked about data breaches, but there is

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the issue of your sustainability is the company to get your physician

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you have got to have money on your balance sheet, you need big capital

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base which other banks have. The authorisation process is robust, I

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would say. For a good reason. Taking deposits and landing that money out

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is a great responsibility that we take seriously. In terms of

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security, data security and capital, that is something we have spent time

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with regulators and we will have two raise up to ?20 million to dodge the

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bag. We appreciate you coming in. -- launch later this year.

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Let's look at what is being talked about on their website. We have the

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German retail sales, but there is more about China and its news on the

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1.8 million workers likely to be laid off in the coal and steel

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industry come interesting given we are seeing a similar story in the

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UK. We are seeing a lot of expectation here that the whole

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European industry is going through death throes as a result of what is

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called the dumping of steam, Chinese steel, on the market. It is being

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set on the market at prices lower than it cost to produce. It shows

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that we are having similar problems in China as well. That contraction

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in the global market and the global slowdown is having a rain impact.

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Consumers want and the banking, this is one viewer, it is just a matter

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of time before all banks turn to this trend. Physical banks are

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becoming outdated. In a moment, we will go through the business pages.

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First, here is a reminder of how to stay in touch. The business live

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the BBC, right around the world. We want to hear from you. Get involved

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on our web page. What other business stories has

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the media been taking James Hughes, Chief Market Analyst

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at the trading brokerage GKFX, Shall we start with the Wall street

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journal? Missed the oil storage problems. The US have come up with a

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solution. Empty railcars, sitting on railway tracks which will be filled

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up with Wayne because no one is buying it. That is the issue. We

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have a global glut of oil. Prices are at record lows and are not

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looking to go anywhere else. The issue we have in the US is where

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they are going to put it. The ingenious answer is these rain cars.

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There are worries. There is potential collisions which we do not

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often think about and leaky railcars and things like this. Interestingly,

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there are a lot of people who own railcars who are going to the big

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oil companies and saying, you have a lot of oil and nowhere to put it,

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stick it in my car. If you have a spare place to store oil, get in

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touch. We talked about the G2 at the meeting. Finance ministers and

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central bankers there. Mervyn King, former governor of the Bank of

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England, he is talking about his thoughts, coincidentally he has a

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book out, he says the Eurozone is doomed. Do you agree? I have bashed

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the Eurozone for quite a long time. I do not necessarily agree it is

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doomed, but it does not look rosy. What Mervyn King says is right. He

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says that the only way for a of these countries, like Greece and

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Cyprus, countries who really struggled to get back to solvency

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and growth is to leave the Eurozone and come back to it. He talks about

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a relegation system where you can get relegated from the Eurozone and

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you are financially stable again and then get promoted back into it.

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There are a lot of countries who still want to get into the Eurozone

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and use the single currency. We have been talking about the rebirth of

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the gas guzzler since oil prices started to sink. You go from years

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and years of electric cars to, because when prices are so low, we

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go back to regular cars. Thank you so much.

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