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Latin America's largest economy is being battered on all sides.

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Brazil was once a star of the emerging markets

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but the global slowdown, commodities slump and corruption

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Also in the programme...we're taking a look at the economic plans

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of Democrat Hillary Clinton - this time yesterday it was all

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about Super Tuesday and we picked apart the economics

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of Republican Donald Trump as the race for White House hots up.

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And are we seeing a turning point for financial markets

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Oil is rising - emerging market currencies are strengthening -

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having that conversation in about five minutes.

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Today we'll be getting the inside track on Scott Scott -

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a US law firm - specialising in class actions that has

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We have its managing partner David Scott on the programme.

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All week we've been hearing from businesses giving their view

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on whether Britain should leave the EU.

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Do you think that it's a decision for the individual or is it helpful

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We start in Brazil - as it struggles with the worst

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In a few hours' time official figures are expected to confirm

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the once booming economy shrank last year at the steepest rate in more

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Analysts including the International Monetary Fund think Brazil's economy

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contracted almost 4% last year - the worst performance of any

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1.5 million jobs disappeared last year - the fastest pace of job

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Part of the reason is the slump in commodity prices.

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The slowdown in China means there's far less demand for the minerals

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and other raw materials Brazil produces.

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And as an oil exporter - Brazil's been hit hard

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And back at home - a big corruption scandal

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at state-run oil producer Petrobras has implicated key politicians

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and business leaders - shaking the government

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of President Dilma Rousseff and the confidence of foreign

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Himena Blanco is the Head of Americas analysis at Verisk

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Thank you for joining us. We ran through those numbers, up to 4%

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contraction in the economy, and to almost 11% in

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inflation. This is not just numbers, this is major changes in

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the way that people live and what they can afford to eat, the jobs

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they can do and the access to sanitation, how long they can

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stay in formal education, what is this like on the

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ground for people in Brazil? This is the main risk the legacy of Dilma

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Rousseff's party. success in improving the standards

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of living of millions of Brazilians. We're talking about people losing

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their jobs, struggling to pay rent and for transport while at the same

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time seeing the cost of those services continuing to increase. But

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we are also seeing a much more profound or structural struggle,

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deliver basic facilities, so for example we

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will see a delay in sanitation programmes and connecting households

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to storage systems, and that can have a very important impact on for

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example the health of the population and the spread of

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communicable diseases. Like the Zika virus,

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is a relatively new democracy. It has

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from where it was in the 70s as a military dictatorship. What chance

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is there that we will see any kind of income redistribution? Is there

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any chance Brazil might improve itself at all or is it so tied to

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commodities that think there's a silver lining to

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what we've been talking about especially in terms of the

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corruption scandal and democracy, we are seeing Brazilians much more

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interested in how the state is managing the tax money that

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they are paying. That is why this corruption scandal is so important

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for many Brazilians, many have taken to the streets demanding justice.

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The interesting thing, something that sets Brazil apart from its

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neighbours is that corruption allegations are being investigated,

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the judiciary is independent, we are seeing a moderate improvement in the

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strength of institutions in Brazil through the investigation of this

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case and a case before it. There is a slight silver lining.

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This is not good news for everyday Brazilians going out looking for a

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job now but I think the company is looking to invest in Brazil, and

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that is the answer to the country's problems investment, that will

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return growth in the long term. The companies looking at the country,

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this provides a silver lining because institutions are becoming

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stronger. Very briefly, can Brazil bounce back from this? I think so,

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eventually, we won't see it in 2016, we might see

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very low growth in 2017 but I think that Brazil will remain the largest

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market in the region. It is very difficult for any business

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wanting to operate in Latin America not to have some form of

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presence in Brazil, even if at the moment they may be

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struggling with an increase in social unrest and political risk.

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Thank you so much for joining us. the news about growth, or not, as

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the case it be, we will update you. Let's move on.

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The mining company Samarco has agreed to pay $1.1 billion

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in damages following a major environmental disaster in Brazil.

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In November, two of its dams ruptured - causing the mudslide that

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destroyed the town of Mariana in southern Brazil and killed 19

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A new train station opens later on Thursday -

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on the site of New York's World Trade Center.

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A new train station opens later on Thursday -

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on the site of New York's World Trade Center.

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the cost has spiralled to more than $3.8 billion -

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making it the most expensive railway station in the world.

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Shares in Toshiba have closed 7% higher on reports the firm

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is about to secure substantial new loans for its restructuring efforts.

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The company is in talks with several Japanese lenders over raising funds

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in the wake of a massive accounting scandal.

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Let's take a look at the Live page on the BBC website -

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and one story is dominating this morning - it's the comments

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from the French economy minister - Emmanuel Macron.

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We have them here. He says that France would

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relocate its migrant camp from Calais to Britain and roll out the

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red carpet for bankers fleeing if the UK leads the EU. He's headed to

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a summit with various leaders and economy ministers will be meeting.

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This is one of the key discussions going on in Europe with many

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arguments for and against. We will cover some of them later. We will.

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And the German finance minister will be speaking in London today, no

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doubt giving his views on the EU question as well.

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A day after Moody's cut China's outlook to negative,

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the credit rating agency has now cut the outlook of 38

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Everyone will be looking to the China National People's

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Congress this weekend to see what new stimulus measures

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How worried are people about what is going on with the downgrades

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it is part of an ongoing narrative that we have been hearing from

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analysts in China over the last couple of months.

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As you rightly say, the downgrade from Moody's yesterday on the

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outlook of China took a lot of people by surprise. The fact that it

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has downgraded its outlook on 38 state owned firms, including China's

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largest firm in some of its banks, is going to deal a further blow to

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the country's state owned enterprises sector. The outlook has

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been reduced to negative from stable. This will also put pressure

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on Beijing as it attempts to clean up its sector and reform what are

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known as zombie films, massive companies that are living of debt

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and struggling to stay alive. The problem is that these companies

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employ millions of people, so if they are shut down, where do these

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people go? It is a theme we have heard frequently recently and it

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will be top of the agenda when China's leaders meet at the National

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People's Congress this weekend. Thank you. Certainly a big focus at

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the end of this week. All that news is not enough to tempt investors off

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financial markets today. The yen has been weak in the last

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few days. That has helped. Wall Street ended the day keeping hold of

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the gains they made the day before. Let's look at Europe. Where we are

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down slightly the fact that perhaps the appetite for risk is back. We've

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got the price of oil going up, gold going down, safe havens like the yen

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off the boil. That kind of sentiment seems to be on the market. First,

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news of another story in the US. The man who helped to kick-start

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America's sale revolution died in a car crash on Wednesday one day after

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he was accused of conspiring to rig bids for oil and gas leases. The

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former boss of Chesapeake Energy is credited with helping change the

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energy world, yet controversial business practices helped cost him

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his job. Hewlett-Packard enterprise which is made up of the hardware,

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software and servers side of the business, turns in its first-quarter

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earnings this Thursday. You may remember that last week HP

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Incorporated, the business side of the company, reported decent

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earnings, yet investors were not too happy with the company's outlook.

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And has the largest books dare - book store chain in the US changed?

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It is now selling toys online as it tries to compete with retailers like

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Amazon. Joining us is Richard Dunbar,

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Investment Director We will go through some market

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stories. We have seen the biggest rise in the Asia-Pacific region in

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terms of shares since August. I wonder if this rally is sustainable

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or will it fade? Markets have been spooked in the last couple of months

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about the US and we've seen better numbers from there. They've been

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spooked by China, and things are not getting any worse there, and they've

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been spooked by the oil price and we've seen some stability and that's

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that it is encouraging to see more stability in markets, generally come

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in Asia in particular, taking into consideration some of the currencies

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which have been selling in the last few weeks. Interesting to see the

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oil price rising and also metals like iron ore going up a lot. In

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terms of what moves first, when things improve, like sentiment about

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the global outlook for the global economy etc, what tends to give

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signs first in markets that things are going to improve? Markets are

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doing what they are meant to do, every day into the office I see a

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mining company stating that it is reducing capital expenditure and

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digging fewer holes and we will see less production. Similarly, we are

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seeing better news from the US, which should fill demand for these

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products, better demand or expectations thereof, and less

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supply, so arise in metals prices, the invisible hand of the market is

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doing its job. For once! Richard, thank you very much. We'll have you

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and later to look at the newspapers. Still to come is brash US style law

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coming to British shores? There is a gulf between the British legal

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system and the one in the US. We will be talking to the boss of the

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US law firm about how to take on big business here. You are watching

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Business Live from BBC News. UK car workers at Rolls-Royce have

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been sent an e-mail from German parent company BMW, highlighting

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what it sees as the risks of a vote Meanwhile, Lord Rose,

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the head of the campaign to keep Britain in the European Union,

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suggests that wages of low skilled workers could rise in

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the event of a Brexit. We knew the debate was going to get

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more and more intense. Today is quite a big thing, isn't it?

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That's right and it is achieving some focus. Both sides are looking

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at exactly what the results would be of Britain leaving the EU. The

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difficult part is nobody knows because it would be a question of

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renegotiating Britain's position towards the EU. That is the

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difficulty many companies face. What would that period of uncertainty be,

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and for how long, and what would be the final result, would they gain a

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preferential position, or not? That is the question. BMW has written to

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its workers a Rolls-Royce explaining that it feels Britain would be

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better inside the EU. It makes it plain to its workers that isn't a

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decision to be handed out by the employer. What it is trying to say

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to car companies and workers here is that it wants to stay part of it.

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Many work very closely together. I should say, though, that there are

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200 small companies, and I find this interesting, who are saying they

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would like to leave the EU. These are British companies. Slightly

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counterintuitive. You would imagine small companies would feel

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particularly exposed. But in some cases what they resent is some of

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the regulation they are forced accent as part of the EU. Some of

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them presumably trade outside the EU and they feel they wouldn't have to

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accent that if Britain were not within the trading block. -- forced

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to act set -- accept. We have to wade through all of the

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arguments before the referendum. This is dominoes results. They have

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done really well and they think they have been helped by record cheese

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prices. -- Domino's. INAUDIBLE

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You're watching Business Live - our top story - we're bad news

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-- You're watching Business Live - our top story - we're expecting more

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bad news from Brazil, expected to confirm Latin America's

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largest economy is slipping deeper into recession,

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in 2015 at the steepest rate in more than two decades.

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When we have that news, I'm sure it will be on the website, so check it

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out. Now let's get the Inside Track

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on the battle between When you think of class action

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lawsuits, perhaps the US movie Erin Brockovich comes to mind -

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ordinary citizens taking Or do you see ambulance chasers -

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lawyers making a fast buck specialising in class actions,

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often against big companies. The firm is currently involved

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in anti-cartel litigation in the US against 12 banks, achieving

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$809 million in settlements to date. The firm has just

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opened their London office, in what they've described as "a move

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to prepare for a possible European front in the forex battle

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against the world's largest banks." With me now is the firm's managing

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partner, David Scott. -- welcome to the programme. The

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foreign exchange and the reading investigation going on right around

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the world first. Libel has been tough to prove and it has been very

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difficult litigation all over the world, why do you think Forex means

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you will have a better chance of success? -- Libor has been tough.

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Libor Has been tough. In the other case we allege that in addition to

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fixing the 4pm fix, there was also a conspiracy to manipulate. One would

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have been injured, regardless of what side of the trade you were on.

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That is the difference between the two.

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Just explain to those watching, you are representing who in this, and

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who are you chasing for damages? In the US case we represent everybody

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who has been impacted through the conspiracy fix foreign exchange.

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Because of the mechanism, it means we represent everybody who was

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trading. That, by default, is generally very large investing

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companies. In the European slashed UK market, we are representing large

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multinational pension schemes, large traders, who have been impacted

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again by the alleged conspiracy. -- Europe/Uk market. Do you see a

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difference in the level of litigation? When times are good

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people do not sue each other as much. On some level there is a

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correlation between what happened in 2008 and the drying up of the

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market. What seems to me, at least, on almost a daily occurrence, some

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new governmental investigation into financial institution misconduct.

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You have the foreign exchange scandal, the Libor scandal, the

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sovereign debt scandal... I think what happened was when it dried up

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banks needed a new avenue in which to seek profit. Unfortunately a lot

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of banks appear to have been engaging in conduct which is

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questionable. To be clear, you will be going after the banks themselves,

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the banks will argue it was individuals behaviour that we were

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not aware of, we were not across, they were secretly doing what they

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were doing. -- individuals' behaviour. How will you go about it?

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If you look in the US, I believe four banks pleaded guilty to

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anti-trust violations at the corporate level. The corporation

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themselves has pleaded guilty to the conduct. Moreover I think it was the

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FCA, in their report, they found a systemic failure to have policy and

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procedures in place to prevent this type of conduct. In fact, some of

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the employees were meeting with the compliance officers and general

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counsel to ask if the conduct they were engaging in in chat rooms was

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violating the internal policies within the corporation. To argue it

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was rogue employees, I don't think really has... I don't think it has

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legs to stand on. So interesting. We could keep talking about this, but

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thank you very much, and best of luck with all of your cases. Thank

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you very much. We will keep an eye on this, I'm sure it will be one

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about stories again. If you were watching on Wednesday

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as we analysed the results of Super Tuesday in the US -

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the economics of Republican Donald Well today, we're taking

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a look at the economic plans of Democrat Hilary Clinton

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as the race towards the White House Jeremy Howell explains the thinking

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behind "Clintonomics". Hillary Clinton says ordinary

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American wage earners are disillusioned with the economic

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system. Wage rises are scarce, jobs are insecure. She has a three

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pronged strategy to restore their says in it. The first is a push for

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strong economic growth. -- faith. She wants to improve America's

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infrastructure including airports, roads, and bridges. She wants to

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help more young people go to college by lowering their tuition costs. The

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second problem is fair growth. She wants to increase the minimum wage

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to $15 an hour. And she would impose a fair shares tax on people who earn

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over $5 million a year. The third prong is long-term growth. She would

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use the tax system to punish investors who hold shares only for a

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short while, and reward those who hang onto them the long term. But

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even by her own calculations, her new spending measures would cost $25

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billion a year more than her new taxes would raise.

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Buber has big plans for the world. -- Uber. If the chief executive is

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to leave, which I think you will, they could be losing even more

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money. It talks to the ambition and the scale of the ambition of Uber.

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They are hated by those with whom they compete. Is it sustainable if

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their expansion plans are as big as they say they are, and we don't

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doubt that, and yet the money is going out extremely fast, how will

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it continue? Will it get some people who believe in them? It isn't

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sustainable. Companies have to make profit and generate cash. That will

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have to come. Looking at their accounts, it seems they are able to

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attract significant equity capital investors. And they are able to

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attract very significant debt from the banks. They are able to finance

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it. The scale of ambition is clear when you look at the results. A

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force to be reckoned with. Keep your eyes on Uber. It has been great to

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have you on the programme. And thank you for your company. As ever, there

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is a lot more going on in business which we don't have time to mention

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in the programme. Do have a look at the website.

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There will be more business news throughout the day on the BBC Live

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web page and on World Business Report.

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After another cold start, Thursday will be a half reasonable day for

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most. Fewer showers than yesterday and the winds will be lighter. For

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that we have to thank the fact this area of low pressure which gave us

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