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This is Business Live from the BBC with Ben Thompson and Sally Bundock.

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Crude politics - will the recovery in oil prices last as key players

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try to persuade Iran to join a production freeze?

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Live from London, that's our top story on Monday, 14th March.

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Russia's energy minister is in Tehran with oil top

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But can he persuade Iran to join a freeze on production -

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just months after sanctions were lifted.

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Also in the programme - China's spending spree continues.

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The famous Waldorf Astoria in New York - you'll recognise it

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here - has new Chinese owners as the Asia economic powerhouse

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This is how Europe looks in the first hour of trade -

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we'll have all you need to know for the day ahead.

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And there are more than 110 million unexploded mines around the world -

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we'll be hearing from company that clears them from conflict areas

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And colouring books for adults are seeing a meteoric

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rise in popularity - with sales hitting 12

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million last year - so are you a fan?

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Is the traditional colouring book the antidote to our

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Let us know - use the hashtag BBC Biz Live.

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We're starting today with oil, as Russia's energy minister begins

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talks in Iran over a potential deal to freeze oil production.

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Last month a group of countries, led by Russia and Saudi Arabia

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agreed to cap their oil output, but only if other producers did

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Ill prices fell after that announce: Take a look how oil has risen It has

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been rising as you can see, climbing now above $40 a barrel. The

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international energy agency says prices have recovered remarkably, in

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the past few week, and that lower production in the US is helping to

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curb the oversupply. But it's unlikely Iran will agree

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to freeze its production Tough sanctions that

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all but crippled Iran's oil exports have only just been lifted and it's

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keen to get production back online. Its OPEC envoy say a cut

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would be illogical - and is reported to have warned

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that the country will increase output until it reaches

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pre-sanctions levels. Miswin Mahesh, an oil analyst

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at Barclays joins us in the studio. So how do you think these talks will

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go today? We think that Iran has been clear to the market. They said

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we want to reach four million barrels a day, before we agree to

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any sort of production freeze, because they know that all the other

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members that are convincing them to join have already been producing at

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high levels. So it is their turn to make hay while the sun shines as it

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were. Yes. They are producing 2.9 million barrels at the moment. How

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long will it take them to get to 4,000? They need expertise, they

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need investment. So they need 30 billion a year, so get the asets

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working again, get that extra million barrel days but they have

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done quite well over the last three done quite well over the last three

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months even without foreign help in boosting production, the leg, the

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final leg will be difficult, just because the way they have shut these

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production fields when the sanctions came through was a lot more

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difficult than if it was a normal shut down process. In the meantime

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Opec and non-OPEC members were going to meet on 20th March. Where are we

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headed given that Russia and said were trying to reach an agreement

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yeemt? That has been the big disappointment, leading up the rally

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has been because of expectation, March 20th we might see not only a

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freeze, possibly a cut is what the market thought, and now we are not

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even having the meeting because these producers can't agree on a

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location, whether it should be in the Middle East or Russia, and our

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view is that we will see the next Opec meeting in June and again see

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more of the same in December, where people can't agree to cut or freeze.

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So what is likely to happen to the price in that case of without we are

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just about $40s a barrel, are we going to stay or go up? We think

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that prices will be volatile, heading into to peck meeting so we

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will see more weakness in the next 30-35 days because refineries have

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shut down for maintenance, it is a low period for demand, but going

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into the driving season, when gas line is in usage, that is when

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demand picks up. We see oil going from 30 to 40, 45 but not above $50

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a barrel. I like that, don't you like that? He has nailed his colours

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to the mast. Thank you for coming in. We will see whether it comes

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We will see whether it comes true, watch this space.

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The International Monetary Fund has suggested it supports the decisions

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of Japan and Europe to introduce negative interest rates

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IMF boss Christine Lagarde says "unconventional monetary policies"

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should continue if they are accompanied by structural reforms

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Japanese banks have been encouraged to lend out the money to businesses

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and household. We have the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England

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meeting later. The US ratings agency Moody's has

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downgraded Hong Kong's outlook to negative following the tightening

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of the territory's political and economic links

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with mainland China. It says political risk has risen

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in Hong Kong over the implementation of the "one country -

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two systems" policy. Plenty of storiesonline. This is an

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interesting one. A development in the UK but I am sure it is the case

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in other country as well. The number of drivers with tellmatics car

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insurance policies has risen by 40%, what is one of those? It is where

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you have a black box fitted to your car that monitors your driving. The

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idea itself brings down your insurance payments because you have

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to stick to the rules of the road and they have a black box to tell

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them, so for families where they have teenage children who just pass

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their test, saying, teenage boy, girl, it brings down the insurance

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policy. What are you suggesting about the driving of teenage boys?

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Nothing, I am saving saying it is out there The use of them, it makes

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it clear there up from 12,000 thousand fitted back seven years

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ago, 500,000 fitted in cars so it makes it cheaper. Quickly, a look at

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Asian markets. They are having a good session. It is following on

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from how we left things off in the US and Europe on Friday, we will

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talk about the European markets in a moment. There you go. Aussie shares

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hitting a two month high today. It shows that China's spending power

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remain despite the slow down in the domestic economy.

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Fill us in. As you mentioned, the Chinese economy is slowing down, but

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it looks like the companies still have a lot of cash to spend. So they

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have been on an acquisition see from and the latest one is a company

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called, an insurer. Most people will never have heard of it but it a big

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company, with lots of divisions is everywhere. It is very politically

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connected to the highest level of Chinese Government. They are

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reportedly paying $6.5 billion for a luxury hotel collection to add to

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their already big holdings, including the Waldorf Astoria, and

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this is the piggest deal for US prime property for them. They have

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also tried to buy other firms as a Portuguese bank. That wasn't able to

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go through because it was considered an important bank and there are

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objections to that. Overall the Chinese firms have done a lot of

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deals this year, it is only March but there has been $84 billion

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spent. Compared to last year there was 108 well of Chinese acquisition,

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by the time we hit the end of 2016 we will see more deals coming

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through. Good stuff. Thank you. More from you later in the week. A quick

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look at the number, you can see that is the state of play in Asia.

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Interesting we we have news from machine orders in Japan. Not hugely

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exciting but it gives an indication of the state of the economy. They

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were up 15%. If we can look at Europe as well. We saw them at the

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start of the programme. This is what Europe is looking like in the first

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hour of trade, in London, Frankfurt and Paris. Markets are back up but

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it will be a week dominated by activity from central bank, we will

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talk about that in a moment. Michelle has a look at what is

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happening on Wall Street today. Americas seen tram bank concludes a

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two day policy meeting this Wednesday, and while no action is

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expected it will still be significant. Investors want to know

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what the fed thinks about the country's employment and inflation

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prospects. As things stand there is a gap between what the fed and the

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markets think will be the projected number of rate hikes this year. This

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Monday's calendar may be light on economic news but the rest of the

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week is busy with retail sales and inflation readings lined up. On

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Tuesday, the US Senate is planning to hold a hearing on driverless car,

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it will feature testimony from Google. General Motor, Lift and

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others. That is Michelle of course.

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Joining us is David Buik from Panmure Gordon.

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Happy new week as it were. Busy week this week, Michelle touching on some

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of the issues we heed to watch in the States. We had a rolest coaster

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reception to Mario Draghi's situation last week where he

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introduced a wider package of assets to be bought. When you think of the

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gyration for both European stocks and the FTSE to lend, to end the

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week below the plimsoll line is unusual. This week we will have more

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stability. Why? When Janet Yelland gets up to speak, I think she will

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tell you absolutely no chance of any interest rate change for March, but

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if anybody thinks that it is off the agenda for June they maybe run, if

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the date is is good, the employment, the number of jobs and the wage

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inflation, she may feel she is justified to do so. Going over to

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Japan, we will just have play it again Sam. The negative interest

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rates and much as I take my halt off to the wonderful lady who sits at

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the IMF who is outstanding, I don't believe that quantitative easing in

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the long-term is good. The European Union was late with it, and if they

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had done it seven years ago maybe. She stresses that it has to come

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with structural reform. That is the drum she keeps on beating when it

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comes to this. You know and I know it won't. The jury is out. She is

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pushing that agenda very hard. I understand that. She is very good

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but the rubble is politically these things never work how you think they

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will. David, quickly, two big D-Days today when it comes, this week we

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should say when it comes to take over and merger, one the Sainsbury's

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home retail group bid and Stock Markets. The London stocksening

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changes with doish. Tomorrow is the trading statements and the figures

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will be less awful than expected. But the real thing is will they have

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paid enough for Argos? 1.3 billion is on the take, we know that Stein

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Hoff of South Africa have upped the ante, I think the CEO of Sainsbury's

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wants this. It is time out on Friday but I think it will be renewed.

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Boish? I think they will win it, but there is no such thing as a joint

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merger. OK, we will see you sown. He is coming back. Conflict clean up.

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We will hear from a firm that helps combat the lethal aftermath of

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conflict in Africa and the Middle East. It is a firm that clears more

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than 45,000 unexploded bombs and mines over the last ten years. You

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are with Business Live from BBC News.

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First this is not the sound of music but listen to this line. How can you

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solve a problem like youth unemployment? The Government says it

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wants to increase the number of on the job training schemes but the

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question is whether they are really effective. Steph sat down with

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Ofsted's Paul Joyce and asked him about their recent review of the

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schemes to mark National Apprenticeship Week.

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We saw some shocking practise during the resee, ranging from some

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apprentices who went aware they were on apprenticeship programmes, we saw

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some that received very little to no training in their job role. Any

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particular sectors then that are worse than others? The best practise

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is where present us thes are in industries that have a long history

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of apprenticeship programmes so areas like construction and

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engineering, but, in other sector, like retail and customer services,

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they were probably the sectors where experiences were less positive.

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Where we have been trying to recruit present tipses in jobs that really

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you, I and many members of the public wouldn't recognise as an

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apprenticeship. While there are job like coffee making and cleaning,

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while very important, you would probably question whether they need

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the knowledge, skills and experience to call that an apprenticeship.

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Have you seen any changes, since this review? Yes, the colleges and

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the private training providers that run apprenticeship programmes are

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starting to make some change, and are taking onboard some of the

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messages in our report, which is pleasing to see. Who is responsible

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for making sure that these apprenticeships are good enough? The

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skills funding agency that fund the colleges and the providers, take

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take some oversight view of provision. It is very important for

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apprentices if they have concerns to raise that with their employers. It

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can be daunting though for young person to complain about their

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employer, they might lose their job? Sure, that is a really good point.

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They should speak and raise concerns with their supervisor, the next

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course of action would be to raise any concerns or issues they have

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with their provider. This is a qarng from the Chief

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Executive of Tesco calling on the Chancellor ahead of the Budget, cut

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business rates or jobs will be lost. Russia's energy minister

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is in Tehran to try to persuade Iran to join a freeze on production just

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months after sanctions were lifted. Long after the guns have fallen

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silent and the tanks have stopped moving, war still leaves

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behind a deadly legacy. In war-torn countries around

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the world, there are more than 110 million

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unexploded landmines. They kill and injure

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thousands each year. And they deter travellers, restrict

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trade and stifle economic growth. The Development initiative was

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set-up in 2005. So far, it's removed and destroyed

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more than 1400 mines It's managing director

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is Hugh Morris who set Hugh Morris joins us

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in the studio now. Hugh nice to see you. Welcome to the

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programme. Some staggering figures when it comes to how much you have

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been able to do to remove these devices. Talk us through how

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difficult it is to do that. You are working in some very difficult

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conditions in very difficult places and it is a very dangerous job? It

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is a drop in the ocean really what we've managed to achieve. There is a

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lifetime's work to be done still. Often the biggest challenge is the

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remoteness of the areas, the difficult poor lines of

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communication. So actually, when you actually get to the minefield, it is

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probably one of the easiest tasks is to get cracking with the job, but it

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is the back-up, getting the teams on the ground, getting the teams

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trained up and into position is the biggest challenge. These countries

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that you operate in, Africa, the Middle East, many of them have been

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ravaged by war for years and years. So their economies are in a real

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state and many watching might think, you know, is it actually the job of

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a private company that makes profits to do something like this? Should it

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not be an organisation that is set-up by maybe non-governmental

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organisation that's not making money in this process, does that make

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sense? It does, indeed. We compete regularly against six or seven other

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commercial organisations, but there are a number of NGO that is we work

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alongside and sometimes compete against. I think there is a place

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for both of us. The commercial aspect is aimed to get the job done

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quickly as economically as possible and hand the land back to the people

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to actually start conducting other business so mine action should

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always be seen as a short-term obstacle to development and the

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commercial aspect of it is equally important, I think, to the sort of

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NGO side of life. How has the environment changed in which you

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operate? A lot of the mines that you're dealing with have been there

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for a very long time. Technology is changing, the way that warfare is

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carried out is changing. Does it mean that you're constantly having

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to change how you operate and the way in which you remove these

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devices? Absolutely. We are always looking for new technologies and new

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techniques to undertake the task quicker and more efficiently.

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Obviously the traditional humanitarian mine action is still

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very prevalent. There is many, many years, a lifetime of work to be done

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out there, but we have had to deal with the threat from IEDs and this

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changes the environment because we are now moving into areas that are

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not necessarily post-conflict. The main battle might be over, but there

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is still groups, factions that are still fighting in the area. So we're

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going into countries now where we have to watch our backs, look at

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security, and this ups the price and the risk. You also were careful to

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call your company the Development Initiative because you want to sort

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of get the message out there that you are for development. You employ

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a lot of local people, don't you, for example in Sudan where you have

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been operating for something like ten years, you have employed people

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in Sudan for that ten year period? Absolutely, yes. The focus is on

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local capacity building. Often we're the first into an area post-conflict

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and nobody has a job after conflict. So sometimes we are the first

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employer. So we look to hire as many locals as possible. Obviously the

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expertise come from internationals. But a lot of our deminers in Sudan

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for example have been with us for eight or nine years. They are highly

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experienced. They would be able to travel elsewhere with us to conduct

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mine action in other countries. We have got to leave it there. Hugh

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Morris, thank you very much for coming in. So many more questions

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we'd like to ask, but time has run out yet again.

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There has been a lot of fuss in the media when one of Google's

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self-driving cars crashed into a bus.

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It highlighted just one of the fears people have

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Our North America Technology reporter - Dave Lee -

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asked the US transport secretary whether he's worried

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It is not a surprise that at some point there would be a crash of any

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technology that is on the road, but I would challenge one to look at the

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number of crashes that occurred on the same day that were the result of

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human behaviour. I think the question isn't comparing the

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automated car against perfection, it is a relative comparison to what we

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have now on the roads which is you and I and our eyeballs and our

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brains. Let's look at the stories making the

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headlines in the media. Starting with this one in the Financial

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Times, Brazilians take to the street in anti-Government protests. The

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corruption scandal really hitting the mark there with people's

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opinion. In Canada, Ontario is piloting a programme that will give

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free money to citizens for well, doing nothing. It is the type of

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social safety net called basic income. It is an idea that is

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generating attraction. Colouring books for adults. A big business

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apparently. 12 million were sold in 2015. I don't mind a bit of doodling

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myself! David Buik from Panmure Gordon

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is joining us again to discuss. Do you like to doodle? I love

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doodling. Em are talking and... Do you like to doodle? Yes. Do you have

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an adult colouring book? No. If anyone is watching and would like to

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send me one, please do. You could get inundated. I will get one as

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well. Up from one million sold in 2014 to 12 million in 2015, and it

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strikes me this is just a huge fightback against our ever connected

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digital electronic lives, it is paper, it is pencil, it is old tech,

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but it is brilliant. I think it is a fabulous innovation, but it will

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last five minutes! It is not an innovation, it is a colouring book

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for adults! Two in their 30s got them for Christmas, day five,

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haven't got to page three yet. There is hi-tech stuff if you look at the

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stuff. That's not hi-tech. The designs are. It is something to do

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with the design. It is colouring pence and a page!

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Let's move on, shall we? When my colouring arrives, I will let you do

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one. Brazilians take to the streets in anti-Government protest... Hang

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on, I have got a lot to say on this, but I have only got 30 seconds. 3.6

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million people were on demonstration against... People. As much as any

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high flying Brazilians can be, against Dilma Rousseff's Government.

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Her coalition partners are unhappy with some skullduggery with a huge

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organisation in Brazil. Their economy is in rags and the point I

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wanted to make Sally and Ben was I think Brazil have got more front

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than Brighton Pier to consider hosting the World Cup two years ago

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and the Olympic Games this year when their country is hanging in rags. I

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think it is a political disgrace and however much high-profile it gives

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them, you hope it stimulates the young people, this costs billions

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and billions of dollars. I have no idea. The bill for both of them is

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$50 billion. Over three million people, all making their stand,

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asking for change. Absolutely. They feel they have had enough. In a

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peaceful manner. When you go on and on. It says something. They are

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saying we feel we have got austerity, but these people are

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trampled on. David you did it! Sorry! Well done. No need to

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apologise. That was Business Live. Thank you for your company today. We

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will see you same time, same place tomorrow. Bye-bye.

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Hello there. The up and coming week is looking quiet thanks to high

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pressure. We saw lots of sunshine

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