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This is Business Live from BBC News with Sally Bundock and Ben Thompson.

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Japan's central bank holds fire on further stimulus -

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but what's left to do to boost its slowing economy?

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Live from London, that's our top story on Tuesday 15th March.

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Japan's Central bank holds fire on further stimulus and gives

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a bleaker view of the future - so how will it boost

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Music to Sony's ears; the entertainment giant buys part

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of pop legend Michael Jackson's music empire with lucrative rights

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share markets are under pressure with the price of oil remaining

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below 40 dollars a barrel, we'll talk you through

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And predicting the future, we'll get the inside track from one

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entrepreneur who says she can tell business what the future holds

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by taking the guess work out of forecasting.

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The global cosmetics firm moves its headquarters

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But is it a vote of confidence in the country despite

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Let us know, use the hashtag, BBC Biz Live.

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It's the big week for central banks in our major economies;

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Japan, the US and UK are among the five laying out rates decisions.

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Today, the Bank of Japan held fire on lowering rates

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The BoJ gave a bleaker view of the economy,

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raising questions about how effective its policies are.

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In January Japan made the surprise move of diving into negative

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That was to spur bank lending and consumer spending.

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Other central banks have followed suit.

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Only last week, the European Central Bank cut interest rates

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and unleashed quantitative easing to kick-start

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Joining us is Dr Pippa Malmgren, founder of London-based economic

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Nice to see you. Sally running through the

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details there of the policy action we have seen so far from many of the

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Central Banks but we are getting to the point where they are running out

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of options? That is the point of going into negative interest rates.

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It's a last-ditch effort to compel people to stop saving and to take

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their capital and go put it to work in the economy.

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But why is it not working to the same extent they might have hoped?

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The Bank of Japan held off taking further action, they are keen to let

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the first round of action settle down a little bit, but it's not

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working in quite the way they might have expected? No, in fact we have

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record sales of safes in Japan now because if you put your money in the

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bank you have to pay the bank for holding your cash, that's a negative

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interest rate. That's exactly what they don't want.

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They want people to put their capital into the real economy one

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way or another. The other thing is, you have to understand the purpose

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of negative interest rates is to raise the cost-of-living. It's to

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cause inflation to rise. It should make the price of assets like homes

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or the stock market go up. So another thing is, people start to

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think, well, if that's true, I need to save even more, so it's a

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circular problem. Let's zoom out a little bit. In

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terms of the options that are available to Central Banks, this is

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one of them. We have seen record interest rates and other policy

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action. Are there any moves they still have up their sleeve or, is

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this really the last-ditch attempt to kick start what we have seen,

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sluggish recoveries, in some cases teetering on the edge of recession

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again, and they are really trying to find something else they can

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deploy but they are running out of ways to do that? I'll tell you

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what's left. They could start buying things

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in the open market, they could buy debt, they could buy corporate debt,

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they could put the money into things like infrastructure. But Central

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Banks are very reluctant to become price-makers,

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they prefer to create the conditions. So the question is, if

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the public doesn't take the money and push it into the real economy,

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how will Central Banks make them do it? One of the ways, is, you go to

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electronic cash, you dock somebody's bank deposit, if I put ?100 in the

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bank, that takes ?2 out, that'll make me get my money out of there.

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Many suggest it's storing up problems for labour down the

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line. Lovely to see you A worker sacked by Volkswagen

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in the US has launched legal action He's accusing it of deleting

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documents and obstructing justice in relation to the

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emissions scandal. Daniel Donovan, who worked

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in IT for the company, says he refused to delete the files

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and reported them to a supervisor. He says he was wrongfully

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dismissed in December. The head of Bangladesh's central

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bank has resigned after hackers The money was stolen last

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month from its account at the Federal Reserve

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Bank in New York. Last week bank officials say

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the gang behind the raid used stolen credentials to make

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the transfer requests. Initially some money

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was recovered from Sri Lanka, but more than eighty million dollars

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was laundered through casinos Oil prices have fallen nearly 3%,

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trading under $40 a barrel after Iran put off plans

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to join countries proposing Iran's oil minister says the country

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will only join discussions to cap output after its own production

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reaches a pre-sanctions levels. A lot of data on our website.

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Just to highlight on there, we had news from France, consumer

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prices falling. The live page pointing out, more deflation over in

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France, consumer prices confirmed by falling % year on year. So that

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problem of deflation continues to stalk the eurozone.

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Also, this is the copper company Antofagasta, 83% fall in annual

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profits mainly down to the fall in the price of copper and slowing

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growth in China, becoming a real theme. The other mining companies

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out with news prior to this BH Bilton

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Rio Tinto, also having to take steps. The price of metals going

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down and the slowing economy in China. Full details on the website.

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As Sony snaps up Michael Jackson's interest in a massive music catalog

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Leisha Chi is in Singapore and has more for us.

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I didn't realise Michael Jackson had the rights to so many songs? Neither

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did I, but we have to go all the way back to

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1995 when Michael Jackson partnered with Sony to set up

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the world's biggest music publisher. They split the business and Sony is

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now paying $750 for Jackson's 50% holding, so now they are going to

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own the rites to about three million songs. This includes most of the

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works by The Beatles, as well as sales by Bob Dylan, Lady Gaga, Kanye

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West and Taylor swift. The deal does not include Michael Jackson's master

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recordings or the songs written by him, but essentially this deal shows

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he wasn't just the King of Pop, he made one of the smartest investments

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by investing in the titles and, importantly, the sale is going to

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help reduce his estate's debts and he still has three living children

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and they'll get more financial flexibility from the money that's

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going to come in. It's been seven years since Michael Jackson left us

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but he's still ranked amongst the highest

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earning deceased celebrities. Coke owe had a downbeat day

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yesterday. The -- Tokyo.

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Export goods become more expensive, down in

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Hong Kong adds well, well street the night before. -- as well.

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The European numbers now: Sainsbury's as well, its shares down

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1%. The spark retailer in the UK coming out with disappointed numbers

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as well. Losses across-the-board, oil prices

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and energy stocks lower. A familiar tale. Michelle is here to tell us

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what we should be watching. Wall Street will have plenty of economic

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data to digest as the Federal Reserve begins a two-day meeting on

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interest rate policy. The retail sector generally has been a bright

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spot as the world's largest economy has recovered. American consumers

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have opened their wallets. Spending surged in January. Investors will be

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watching the commerce department's retail sales figures to find out if

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that momentum carried over into February or if it stalled. Valiant

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pharmaceuticals get its chance to respond to its detractors. The

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embattled drug-maker releases its fourth quarter results.

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It's been under scrutiny for accounting

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and business practices. And the US Senate

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is holding a hearing into driverless cars with testimony expected from

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the likes of Google, Lift and others.

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Joining us is Maike Currie, investment director at Fidelity

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Let us turn our aFengs to oil. Japan isn't going to take part in this

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freeze. -- attention to oil. A lot of concern about whether Iran would

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join that group and it's not doing so yet? That is right. The sanctions

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have been going on for so long. The equity markets keep moving in step

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with oil price. That is one to keep an aye on. Markets washing the Fed

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now. We have had the Bank of Japan, the next one to make decisions,

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makes key economy Federal Reserve, again nothing expected this time?

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Central Bank policy never far from the Spotlight. This week we have got

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five Central Banks announcing policy and out of those, the Fed is

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arguably the most important. There is the press conference and it will

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all be carefully dissected. We could see the next move up in the next

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June meeting but nothing at this one.

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A quick word on the budget hear in the UK. We'll get details from the

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Chancellor, the Finance Minister tomorrow. Fuel - details about that

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today, transport spending, all of that being leaked ahead of the

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budget but clearly a big balancing act for the Chancellor to play?

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Yes. The Chancellor is walking a tightrope. Back in the Autumn

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Statement in November, he was very bullish, he said the UK economy was

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looking a lot stronger, there was ?27 billion

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extra in the Kitty, now there's a black hole of ?4 billion because the

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economy's shrank and George Osborne's really made himself a

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hostage to fortune. He needs to pull a show-stopper of a budget and

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wrestle back the Spotlight from his political opponent, Boris Johnson.

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The question is, can he afford it One we'll all be watching very

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closely tomorrow. Thank you. See you later.

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Still to come, predicting the future - we meet the software entrepreneur

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who's taking the guessing out of business forecasting.

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You're with Business Live from BBC News.

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Cross-channel rail operator Eurostar has just announced

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The firm runs services between London, Paris and Brussels.

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But it was badly hit by the terrorist attacks in Paris

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Profit last year fell to ?34 million, that's down

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Nicholas Petrovic is the chief executive of Eurostar,

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and I put it to him that it had been a difficult year.

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An unusual year. Everything went in different directions. There was a

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migrant issue. There was also some good news. The big thing for us, we

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had a new fleet of trains at the end of last year. That is the future of

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Eurostar. So a very, very eventful year actually for us. An eventful

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year and one in which passenger numbers were flat. You are operating

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profits down by ?20 million, so a lot going on. But what are you

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thinking for 2016, how is it going to look because the migration crisis

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is difficult to predict and it's very hard to counter it really,

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there's not much you can do about that? There is been a lot of

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investment. For 2016, I'm quite actually optimistic. I think with

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the new fleet of train and there is an appetite of people to travel and

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I think we are expecting to grow. The summer looks

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good at the moment, bookings are very strong, so we expect, after the

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effect of the Paris attacks, now to grow again and to have a very good

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2016. We saw footage of the fancy trains,

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running between Paris and London currently, but you are going to

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expand that significantly which which would be costly I would

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imagine? We are investing ?1 billion into the float to complete it. This

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year it will be mostly on the Paris route, so most trains will be new.

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We have more space, Wi-Fi on board, plugs, everything. And then we move

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that to the Brussels route and other routes, to the South of France.

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Putting on the brakes - Japan's central bank holds fire

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on rate cuts and stimulus but gives us a bleaker view of this major

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Japan's already in negative interest rate territory -

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so will this mean a fresh dose of stimulus down the line to nurse

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The next company offers something we could all do with -

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it works out exactly where you stand financially,

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I am talking of the start-up CrunchBoards.

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Its software lets companies to work out their financially situation -

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who owes what and whether they're in a position to expand or hire.

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The UK based company is relatively new -

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it launched just two years ago - but now has offices in London,

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CrunchBoards now has over 8,500 customers in over 82 countries.

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It's the brainchild of entrepreneurs Hannah McIntyre and Amy Harris.

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With us now is one of the duo, Hannah McIntyre.

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Hannah, nice to see you. We touched on it briefly, it is trying to get

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businesses more information about themselves. It sounds a bit obvious

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that these are the things that firms should know, how much money they

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have, where rents how they can spend it but, crucially, they don't? Often

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this is the case. CrunchBoards is about driving business growth. Most

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businesses are sat in a meeting with their accountant at the end of the

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year having a history lesson, but what you want to see is where you

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will be in the next three, six, 12 months, five years, then build upon

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your foundations. This started because you and Amy were running a

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company prior to CrunchBoards and you needed this service? Yes, and it

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is pretty extreme to build your own software because you cannot find

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something to the illiterate you need, but we

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did. We had a company looking at incident management accounts for the

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hospitality sector, we realised we needed this. We were spending lots

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of time exporting data, putting it into the dreaded spreadsheets, there

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were lots of inefficiencies and we were always running at a massive

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time like. All the time, you need to have answers today, that is what

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CrunchBoards does. We spent a lot of time talking about uncertainty,

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weather it is the referendum, the oil prices, China. You can see the

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need for some planning, but how do you navigate that? There is knows

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urge think as a certain future. Scenario planning is really key. --

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there is no such thing. There is no fixed feature for any company. You

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need to be able to test different options, that is what the software

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does. It has helped small businesses to explore opportunity. This does

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not altogether remove the accountant, it works alongside that?

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Absolutely. There is an interesting shift in the accounting industry.

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Traditionally it has been compliance based, tax etc has been looked at.

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But is there a shift towards advisory services? Small businesses

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want expertise and knowledge to help them grow. What we do is facilitate

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collaboration between adviser and the client, so that the time spent

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is not this history lesson looking back at last year, it is hopefully

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monthly meetings etc looking towards the future. Many watching this

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looking at you, you and Amy, you are both really good friends and

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starting businesses together. It is amazing, we still are really good

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friends! If you are watching, Amy, it is official. Many might be

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watching you, thinking, well, you are operating in 80 countries, how

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do you make that happen? We do not sleep a lot, I should say that. It

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has been a process. We did not launch with 82 countries and a huge

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amount of learning has happened. We launched in Australia, lots of

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people would say, why have you done that? That it is the emerging market

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for cloud accountancy technology in the world so it was the obvious

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place. And then, this growth has happened and we have not really done

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much marketing either. It has been amazing. There is validation in the

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marketplace. It was not just us that needed that solution, clearly others

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did, too. A quick word on the technology that lets this happen,

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like lots of technology firms that is the software that makes it more

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accessible, and you can do that right here? Absolutely, we are based

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in the clouds we are accessible in any device anywhere in the globe. As

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long as you have an Internet connection, of course! We work

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really, really hard to make sure it is as accessible as possible. And

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secure, presumably? Absolutely, any cloud business has to take that

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incredibly seriously. We're working very hard to make sure that is case.

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Really nice to see you, Hannah, thank you for coming in.

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I am definitely not inputting any of my numbers! I know it is easy but it

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would reveal all sorts of nasty things I do not want to know!

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Innovations in the financial world are swift.

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Take banking apps, which millions of us use.

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In fact, the UK's Royal Bank of Scotland is replacing hundreds

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of staff with so called robo advisers!

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But what are they and can they really do better

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Don't worry, you won't have to see a scary chap like him,

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you won't even have to see a human being.

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In fact, you can get everything you need from a mobile phone app.

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There's a list of questions that help us to understand as much

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as we can the risk attitude and risk profile of our clients.

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One company that recently entered the UK market is the Italian firm

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MoneyFarm, it uses robo advice rather than a human personal

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financial adviser to help its customers make investment

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decisions in a variety of markets taking

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With this technology you can build a different way to explain

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And the robo concept comes from the fact there is no need...

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At least it's not mandatory to have someone interfacing

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with the clients, the computer or the app

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on the mobile phone can help you do so.

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Lets take a quick look at the stories making business

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The Wall Street Journal reports that the cosmetics company Avon

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plans to move its headquarters to Britain and cut 2,500 jobs

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worldwide as part of a turnaround plan.

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That is also elsewhere in the financial press and we will talk

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about it in a moment. The Daily Telegraph warns that

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global recession risk rises to 30% this year, according

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to Morgan Stanley. And in the Gulf News,

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Kuwait looks set to impose a 10% tax They are looking to claw in more

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money with the price of oil going down. Maike from Fidelity

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International is back to talk about the papers. Avon is really

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interesting, any time that we are told that the Brexit debate will

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cause uncertainty and firms to leave the UK, Avon is moving headquarters

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from New York to the UK, it is not worried? Avon has much bigger

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worries than the EU referendum and Brexit. Its direct selling market is

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struggling in an age where everything is set -- technology

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driven and it needs to come are swift e-commerce rivals -- compete

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with. Its commission -based model is struggling. Also the name? The Avon

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lady is calling, even you are familiar with, growing up in South

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Africa, it was a big deal in the UK. It is the issue of rant? It is a

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very good example of how digital disruption can disrupt all business

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models and you really need to keep up with the times. The other thing

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about Avon, they were dead set on keeping the business in the US,

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where the route 's worth. When they have been pressed to expand into

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emerging markets. I think they missed a trick. Turning our

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attention to collate, like many big oil producers it is feeling the

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effects of a falling oil price. -- let's turn our attention to Kuwait.

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It is imposing a 10% tax. The Gulf is known for being tax-free and it

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attracts many people to move there. These oil producing nations need to

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diversify revenue sources. A major change for the Gulf countries. A

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similar story in Saudi Arabia not so long ago, increasing taxes. It is

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very interesting how the price of commodities going on is forcing

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countries to take steps they really do not want to take.

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This is a story in the Telegraph, the global recession risk rises to

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30%, according to Morgan Stanley, not least, for many countries,

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because of falling oil prices. That has been the big worry. We were

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expecting the low oil price to feed through to consumers. We have not

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seen that will stop we expect this year to be different. We seek US and

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EU consumers who use a lot of oil benefiting, I think it will trickle

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through. We have seen a lot of warnings, we should be careful not

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to manufacture a crisis. That is something we will watch very

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closely, we will not manufacture a crisis. Nice to see you, as always,

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Maike

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