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The mystery surrounding the disappearance of an EgyptAir

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plane over the Mediterranean has deepened, after Greek authorities

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dismiss reports of finding debris from the jet.

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G7 finance chiefs gather in Japan - but do they really have

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And we'll keep you up to date with all the market buzz -

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European shares have opened strongly, following modest rises

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in Asia overnight and pretty weak trading on Wall Street.

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And we'll be looking back at the week on tech

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with correspondent Rory Cellan Jones - including some of the latest

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developments announced by Google this week.

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As G7 finance leaders meeting in Japan prepare for a karaoke

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night this Saturday - what songs should they be singing?

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Let's begin with the crash of EgyptAir flight MS804.

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The search for the missing plane is continuing into its second day -

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with Greek, Egyptian, French and UK military units taking

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part in the operation near Greece's Karpathos island.

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The plane was en route from Paris to Cairo with 66 passengers and crew

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Greece said radar showed the Airbus A320 had made two sharp

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turns and dropped more than 25,000ft, or 7,620m, before

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Egypt says the plane was more likely to have been brought

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down by a terrorist act than a technical fault.

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Whatever the cause of the disaster - and whether or not it

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was terrorism-related - it could not come at a worse time

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for Egypt's tourism industry and its wider economy.

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Let's have a look at the numbers involved.

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Millions of Egyptians rely on tourism to make a living,

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and it's a vital source of foreign earnings for the country.

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Since the downing of the Russian Metrojet flight

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in Sinai last October, tourist arrivals to Egypt

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As a result, the Economist Intelligence Unit estimates

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that the country's tourism revenue has nearly halved.

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The wider industry has also suffered as a result

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Since the end of October, shares of travel companies have

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Helen Marano is the Director of Government Industry Affairs

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at the World Travel Tourism Council.

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Good to have you with us, thank you for coming in. Let's begin with the

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Egypt, and even before yesterday's tragedy, the tourism industry in

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Egypt has been hammered. We had a senior board member who said that

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the terrorism, each of's tourism Federation Council, they said that

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tourism in the country has not dropped, tourism in the country has

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collapsed, it is devastating for the economy? -- Egypt's. It is a heavily

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dependent industry for the con me, but before we say anything I would

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like to express our heartfelt sympathy to the families -- economy.

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There's no question that when we go through this everyone begins to

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focus on, my gosh, what will happen for the country now? But for the

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families, we know how tragic is. As far as the reception that Egypt has

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had, it has been dealt another blow, the tourism minister was intent on

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planning a very robust rebirth for the country, and being able to

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demonstrate alternative areas is Egypt to go to as well, to feed out

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into the rural area, but I think, without question, they have a huge

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challenge now. I am wondering, these kinds of drops that we have seen,

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like in 2010, the peak, the government was making about $12.5

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billion from revenue for Egypt, last it was $7 billion, a big drop. Sharm

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El-Sheikh was supposed to use European carriers they were supposed

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to return in a week or two. That is. Egypt cannot sustain this continued

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tourism battering, surely? No, and they recognise it now, on top of it,

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this is devastating to what they have tried to do. One of the issues

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is overall, I noticed in your commentary that the global industry

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is still strong. When this happens in a concentrated area, people will

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still take a moment to consider where they are choosing to go, and

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may take alternative destinations. This is what Egypt faces, without

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question. But we must remember that we are on 10% of the global economy,

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and one in 11 jobs overall, with Egypt being a huge part of that. On

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the security of travellers and planes, in Egypt, the environment

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that they currently have, with budget airlines, short-haul flights,

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the turnaround for planes is increasingly short, is there enough

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time to do sufficient checks? It depends on the airport 's

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consideration, and airlines understanding. First and foremost,

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in their minds and practice and procedures is security. Even in

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Paris, they've done a review of all of the personnel after the last

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event, and they've been doing as much information sharing, that is

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key, the Corporation for information sharing and ahead of any of these

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incidents, to identify potential is. Airport security is the ultimate end

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point for them to be sure that they are strong. We will be vigilant

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indeed. We appreciate your time. Thank you.

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Good to talk to you. Let's bring you other business news.

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German drug and chemical giant Bayer has confirmed it's launched

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a takeover bid for Monsanto, the world's biggest seed company -

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that could be worth around $47 billion.

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The offer comes amid a wave of consolidation in the industry.

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However, a tie-up could raise competition concerns

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because of the sheer size of the combined company

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and the control they would have over the seeds and sprays business.

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The seeds and sprays business, did you ever think that you would say

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that?! US car-hailing giant Uber has

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entered the race to develop driverless car technology-

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the company says it's testing a vehicle on the

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streets of Pittsburgh. According to a statement from Uber -

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it's fitted a Ford Fusion with radar, laser scanners

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and cameras. Lookout for one of those! If you see

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it coming... I'm just saying, it's early days, you might want to get

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off the street, I'm not sure! Let's talk about finance chiefs.

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You love this story! Finance chiefs from the G7 group of

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nations are meeting in Japan today. Top of the agenda is likely

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to be how they revitalise You are more concerned with the

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outfits! I've been slapped on the wrist

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because I've said all morning, look at them in the pink kimonos, but

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they are not called that, I don't know what are called! That's right,

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as you were saying, that they can question is spending versus

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austerity, that is bound to keep finance ministers busy over the next

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couple of days, they are expected to boost global growth, as the slowdown

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in China's growth, the worst is yet to come. Not everyone agrees with

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the best way of keeping global recession in Bay and -- at bay, the

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yen will be up for discussion after a rally hit the country's exporters,

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and worsened a slowdown at home. There is terrorist financing and tax

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havens on the agenda, as are the Panama Papers. A debt relief deal

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for Greece, and Britain's referendum on its future in the EU. Whether

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they are wearing pink, owners or not, they will definitely be singing

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the blues! Thank you. At the start of the show, we thought we would ask

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you what you thought they would be singing, let us know!

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Well let's stay in the region and have a look at the market numbers.

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And for the most part Asian shares edged up on Friday

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but still on track for a weekly loss, while the dollar is poised

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Federal Reserve could raise rates as early as next month -

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the dollar strengthening against the yen as a result.

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Wall Street fell on Thursday with both the Dow Jones and the S

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500 touching roughly two-month lows before paring losses.

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Meanwhile here in Europe, shares have opened higher

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on the last trading day of the week, tracking those slight gains in Asia.

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And Michelle Fleury has the details about what's ahead

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US stock markets ended lower on Thursday, as Wall Street adjusted to

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the idea the Federal reserve is seriously thinking about raising

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interest rates at its next meeting in June. Policymakers only have to

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see signs that the economy is continuing to strengthen, and one

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indication will come this Friday. The existing home sales report

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measures the number of previously owned single family homes, sold in

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the last month. Economists are predicting a rise in April, a strong

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signal of consumer spending and confidence in the economy. And, in

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another sign of how far the gap has fallen out of fashion, clothing

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retailers said late on Thursday that it plans to shut all of its old Navy

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brand stores in Japan, as well as some banana Republic shops outside

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of the US. The company, which reported a lower profit, is

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struggling with a prolonged sales slump.

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Thank you. We asked what songs the financial leaders should be singing

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in Japan, Lee from Oxford says that dire Straits "Money for nothing".

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Another says... "Moly, Moni, Moni...!" What do you think? --

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moany moany moany. What is Goldman Sachs doing? They

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come out and say, don't buy equities all stocks? The chief strategists

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has basically said to avoid stocks. After a tumultuous summer, we have

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heard from the survey of fund managers, they manage over ?500

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trillion of our money, they put a lot more of our money into cash,

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that old, overused stock market adult about selling and going away,

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that may be relevant. Yesterday, we saw a big sell-off and this morning

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we saw a big bounce in London. It seems that there is this old problem

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on the horizon again. All of these big cheeses are being bearish on

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equities but where does it leave people? Who have savings in the

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stock market? They recommended to people that they put money in

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corporate bonds. You have to look somewhere for yield, you are not

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getting much in the bank at the moment. You are getting nothing. The

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US Federal reserve, what day is today? Friday, was it Wednesday or

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Tuesday? Wednesday. I am wondering, is the American central Bank people,

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the boss... Janet? Are they looking somewhere different to ask which

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call of the experts I spoke to said that they expected that raised in

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June, they have said no it will be September, now it is June? We got

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the minutes on Wednesday night, before that there was a 4% chance of

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a rate rise, in June, now the market say it is a 34% chance, the minutes

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were basically saying that it may be in June. They are looking at the US

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economy, which despite problems in the world, there are still signs of

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growth, the problem for the Central bank is that they want to get in

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before we see inflation. Richard, you will come back and take

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us through markets later. Thank you.

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Still to come...we look back on the week in tech

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with our correspondent Rory Cellan-Jones.

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There's virtual reality from Google and Apple wooing China and India.

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You're with Business Live from BBC News.

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Eurostar has reported a fall of 3% in passenger numbers for the first 3

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The business had hoped 2016 would be a better year for business -

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after attacks in Paris and disruption in Calais.

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Chief executive Nicolas Petrovic joins us in our

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Let's speak to the big boss himself! Good to see you. For your main

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destinations, let's be frank, it's not been a great start of the year,

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has it? No, it has been tough, we saw a sharp drop in passenger

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numbers, but it is OK now, it's difficult with the North American

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and Asian markets, the terrorists do not come to Europe as much as they

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used to, it is a tough start to the year. -- the tourists.

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How much of an impact does the upcoming referendum in the UK have

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on your business? We can see that the business market is, I would say,

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prudent. There's a lot of uncertainty and a lot of companies

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are waiting to see what will happen. We are waiting for the outcomes, so

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that we can all move on, uncertainties are never before

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corporate is. Deutscher ban. I know you always say

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-- Mike smile when I say that. It is just around the corner. Competition

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means lower prices. Will you be lowering -- Mike lowering your

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affairs? We have just lowered our pricing. It is a very competitive

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market. We want to drive more passengers on our trains. We welcome

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the competition. There is no problem. The markets will keep

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growing. There will be space for everybody. We appreciate your time.

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Good luck with everything. The CEO of Eurostar. Packaging rules hurting

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tobacco profits in the UK potentially because they are going

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to change. Plain packaging. We'll have to see what the impact on

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the industry. Our top story: a massive search

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is continuing for a second day for an EgyptAir plane that

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disappeared over the Mediterranean. And now let's get the inside track

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on the big tech stories of the week, including some major announcements

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from Google, Apple wooing China and India, and Microsft

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dropping the Nokia brand, with our tech correspondent,

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Rory Cellan-Jones. Google, a virtual assistant thing?

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Every year, Google as a big event. This year they had 7000 people in an

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arena outside their headquarters. A lot of it was about taking all that

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technology they have got. They have got an amazing amount of artificial

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intelligence. They do not make great products out of it. They make all of

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their money from advertising. They say they are going to do more. They

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are going to have a virtual assistant, which will be used in a

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new messaging app. The world needs a messaging app! More interestingly,

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they are going to produce a product called Google home, a little speaker

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you can chat to, ask its tough and it will tell you stuff. Can you get

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this picture looking down? Is very like the Amazon Echo. Amazon have

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stolen a march. You can talk to it, ask its tough, it is very clever and

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it will answer you back. It is about conversation with machines. Nobody

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has done really well yet. Google is in a good position because it has

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some of the cleverest artificial intelligence and machine owning

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experts on its staff. Aren't they behind the curve compared to some of

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their competitors? People also saying they are behind the curve on

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virtual reality. That does not necessarily matter if you hit it at

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the right moment. Apple has been repeatedly behind the curve getting

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into mobile phones, bringing out the iPad ten years after Microsoft. It

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is doing it at the right time. Can I talk about Microsoft? The Nokia

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deal, two years ago, the most extraordinary deal. Microsoft buys

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the Nokia mobile phone business. The outgoing chief executive said it

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would be a transformative deal for Microsoft. A year later they wrote

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the entire value of the deal off. Now they have sold the rest of the

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business. The cheaper phones still quite popular in the developing

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world. They are basically wiping Nokia from their story. Meanwhile,

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the original Nokia in Finland is licensing its brand to accompany

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staff by former Nokia people and getting back into phones. The Nokia

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phone could come back? It could indeed. Business School students

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will be studying this for years. You are dead right. Let's go back to

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Apple. Apple has been wooing China and India. A few weeks ago, worrying

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results from Apple after years of extraordinary success. It is now

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focusing on where its growth will come from. China and India very

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important. Tim Cook has been on a tour through China and India talking

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to companies, talking about setting up initiatives. In China he bought a

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stake in the rival to Hooper. -- Uber. In India the iPhone is too

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expensive. They have to find some other way of tapping into that huge

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and growing market. Eight visits so far to China and only one to India.

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Always a pleasure, mate. Have a great weekend.

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A new building complex in north London is offering a different kind

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of accommodation aimed at millennials, mixing small private

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The Collective has 550 small bedrooms and communal

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areas that include a spa, restaurant, games room,

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library and roof-top with plastic igloos -

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with most bills included in the rental price.

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Is this co-living a good deal, or just another way to exploit young

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Dougal Shaw went along for a tour of the building.

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For me the personal space is small but it is really well designed. It

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is a place where I can sleep and have some private time when I want

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to. The communal areas and spaces more than make up for the small

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rooms. Richard is back. We are going

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through the papers. Start with the Guardian. This is looking at the

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EgyptAir Astori. Looking at the wider European travel of our --

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operators being impacted by Egypt, Turkey and Tunisia. The flip side,

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Spain had a record year, apparently? Thomas Cook had a trading statement

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yesterday. They are massively exposed to Turkey, Egypt and

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Tunisia. We have seen a huge rise in people going to the Balearic

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Islands. Unfortunately for Thomas Cook, they cannot sell enough

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holidays to compensate for the loss of holidays in Turkey, where they

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had a big business, and Egypt. Their bookings were around 5% down on

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where they were. The share prices of all the major carriers are

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down. Earlier, you asked Nicholas Petkovic whether all of this might

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mean that people turn increasingly to rail travel and alternative means

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of getting around? Yes, staying at home. People feel safe in the US.

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Another story in the business pages of the daily Telegraph. Booze and

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fags really expensive in? Londoners in the top five. This is a survey by

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Deutsche bank. Showing how expensive places are. It is difficult when you

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have got currencies, to work it out. The annual scene index. How much it

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will cost you do have five beers and Juno -- two packs of cigarettes. ?42

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in the UK. In London, $135 for dates. I have no idea that is true.

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Richard's wife is watching! I know she is watching! If you want a cheap

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date out, you need to go to India by the Philippines.

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Can we quickly get these tweets in? Fabry 's says, try, try, try. John

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Richards says turning Japanese by the vapours. The other one is, I

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like to move it, move it. Dire Straits's Telegraph Road,

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because it lasts for 40 minutes and they kick it down the road.

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Hello there. Good morning. Into -- it is a bright

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