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We'll bring you the latest as we get it.

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An airport official says the last contact with the plane was 10

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Also on the programme: The chairman of tech giant Fujitsu warns it

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would reconsider its investments in the UK if Britain

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And European markets, in the first hour of trade,

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reaction is to what was in the Federal Reserve minutes released

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last night about the next move on US interest rates.

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We will keep you up-to-date with the latest events on that Egypt's hour

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flight but remember the BBC News website has the latest.

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An EgyptAir plane flying overnight from Paris to Cairo has

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Egypt's civil aviation ministry said the Airbus A320 plane,

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with 56 passengers and ten crew on board,

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appeared to have gone missing over the Eastern Mediterranean,

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about 20 minutes before it was due to land in Cairo.

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EgyptAir made a lot of announcements on its Twitter page which you can

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see behind me here. The authorities have now said

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they believe the plane must have crashed, given that it has

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failed to land at any Also from the Egyptian military

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comes the information that the plane did deliver a distress signal

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a few minutes before However, we are hearing counter

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announcements on whether that signal was actually given or not. Ben has

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more. Lucy Williamson joins us

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from Charles de Gaulle Airport. Lucy, where you are, clearly this

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news sinking in. Bring us up-to-date with what you are hearing there.

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There has been a crisis centre said the airport, there were 15 French

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passengers on board the plane as plane as well as 30 Egyptian 's and

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a number of other nationalities. There is a crisis centre for the

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families here, they are being taken to a hotel near the airport, we

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expect the Prime Minister to arrive here later today. The Foreign

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Ministry has set up a crisis centre and a line for anyone worried about

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family, and President Hollande has been coordinating with the Egyptian

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president to say they will be working together to try to solve the

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mystery of what happened. He is holding a crisis meeting this

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morning with his cabinet again to try to work out what the next steps

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are because there are so many questions at this stage about what

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happened to the flight. As you say, Lucy, a lot of questions

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still to be answered at this very early stage where we don't know a

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lot of information. But, once again, we are talking to you live in Paris

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about these sorts of events, are people trying to draw conclusions at

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this point? I don't think at this point. The

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scraps of information are giving rise to speculation, of course

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people are worried, the mood in Paris is already tense, it does not

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take much to remind people how insecure they felt not so long ago.

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The state of emergency has meant security is incredibly tight across

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France, not least at its main airports, and we don't yet know

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whether this was a technical problem, it's human problem,

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security problem, we don't yet know which of those it was and whether it

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originated in France, whether there was a problem here, but it is

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certainly one of the questions being asked and it is certainly a tense

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and nervous time for France to be asking it.

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I wanted to pick up on the issue of security arrangements, how

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much has changed over the last few months since the terror attacks in

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Paris. You reported extensively on those, what have you seen change

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particularly in places like railway stations and airports?

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I think the security was always pretty tight in France, it is like

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for those of you used to flying out of Heathrow, for example, similar in

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terms of the steps you go through, but certainly since the attacks

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there is a more visible presence on the streets, more visible patrolling

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of areas and parameters perhaps outside the core security checks,

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and that is certainly something we have seen at key sites like train

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stations and airports. Thank you very much indeed.

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We will be back with Lucy if we get more, and of course we will stay

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across this breaking story for you over the course of the programme.

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US interest rates are likely to rise in June

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Minutes of the US Federal Reserve's April meeting show

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that it is looking for signs that the economy, employment

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and inflation are improving before taking action.

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And it remains wary of external factors, including a possible UK

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The bank has kept interest rates between 0.25%

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Thailand has suspended a motorcycle taxi-hailing service run by Uber

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and its regional rival Grab over claims they broke local rules.

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Thai authorities have also arrested 66 drivers working

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They said offenders face fines of up to $110 and potentially

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It is unclear how long the ban is for, but both companies

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said they are working to resolve the issues.

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Tesla Motors says it will sell up to $1.7 billion

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in new shares to cope with demand for its new Model 3 electric car.

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Boss Elon Musk will sell nearly 2.8 million of his own shares,

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Last month, he warned the firm needed to speed up production

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and raise more cash after receiving 373,000 orders for the car.

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We would normally check in on the Business Live page at this point in

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the programme but I want to show you the other life pages on the website

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this morning with latest events from MS804, latest details as they come

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into us at the BBC. You will notice a breakdown of the nationalities of

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those on board, this -- 66 people including ten crew, 30 Egyptian 's,

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15 French citizens, two Iraqis and others from Britain, Canada,

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Belgium, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Algeria, Sudan, Chad and Portugal.

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AP is reporting, I mentioned earlier that there is some conflicting

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information out there about whether a distress signal was raised just

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moments before this plane disappeared, AP is reporting that a

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spokesman for the Egyptian army is saying the army has not received any

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distress call from the missing plane. As I say, Associated Press

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quoting the Egyptian army saying they didn't receive a distress call

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which was reported earlier in the media that they did receive.

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We hesitate to talk about finances when there is so much unknown about

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what has happened to this plane but it is worth mentioning purely

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because we have seen a big fall in stocks for the market, particularly

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travel related, and we saw this after the terrorist event in Paris

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and other incidents of this nature. Of course, many unanswered questions

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but it is important because it has a knock-on effect for the wide

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industry, people put off from travelling as a result, so we will

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keep an eye on that as well but still many unanswered questions

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about the fate of MS804. Let's get more insight into what has

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been happening with regards to this passenger plane which has

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disappeared from radar, as we have been mentioning, with 66 people on

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board. Lucy Williamson talking to us from Charles de Gaulle airport in

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Paris, but now we are joined by Alex Macheras, who is an aviation expert,

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joining us by webcam. You have been talking about the fact that this

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plane, the A320, is one of the safest when it comes to its safety

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record? That is correct, the Airbus A320 is incredibly safe, and as I

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said earlier on BBC breakfast is any viewers have ever flown short-haul

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within Europe they have almost definitely flown on an A320, used by

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the likes of EasyJet, British Airways. One takes off and land

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every 2.5 seconds so it really is the workhorse of the aviation world.

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Equally it is the latest technology software on board, fly by wire,

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incredibly safe, said the aircraft should not be a cause for concern.

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What is interesting there is what AP have released about reports of a

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distress signal. When I first received these reports I said we

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should treat them with caution because in terms of a distress

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signal it has been translated by EgyptAir, what they are translating

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it from we are unsure because if it was a squawk signal, for example, it

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would have come from the aircraft, and it is when an aircraft is in a

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state of emergency and send out 877004 digit squawk, as it is known,

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to air traffic controller to let them know there is an emergency

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situation on-board -- eight 7700 four digit code. As far as we know

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that was not sent, it was cruising one minute and then unable to be

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tracked. As you said, we are still unsure about what has happened and

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whether there is any detail over whether the emergency call was made.

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I want to touch on the point you made about the safety record of the

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pain involved, as huge fleet, it has racked up 150 million flight hours.

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Clearly security and safety on board these airliners has improved, it has

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been massively increased over recent years and frankly gets to the point

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where it is not the safety of the plane that is at stake. If somebody

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wants to do something to that plane, they can? This is the worry. In

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recent times, when we have thought, this looks like a typical crash, it

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has sometimes turned out to be the complete opposite. Looking back at

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the Germanwings incident which ended up being pilot suicide while it was

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en route in Europe. That is not to say this is what has happened here,

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equally people are saying, the fact it disappeared off the radar so

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quickly, it matches every other case in history where it vanishes from

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radar because of an explosion on board. Again, we have to leave it to

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the Egyptian authorities to release further statements when they have

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released the crash site, as they have now confirmed the airline did

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crash, but it is natural to draw conclusions and say, well, it looks

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like it could have been a bomb on board, especially in the region it

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took place, because we know it was just a matter of months ago, the

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Sinai Birmingham where a Russian Airbus was attacked with a bomb on

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board and came down very fast, similar to what could have happened

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with this morning's EgyptAir incident. Very good to talk to you,

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thank you for bringing us up-to-date with the technical information.

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One line from our newsroom saying Egyptian state television now says

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Egyptian air forces have not received any distress signal from

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the plane, going on to add that EgyptAir does not know why it's

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plane has disappeared, so confirmation of some sort from

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Egyptian state TV, Egyptian air forces have not received any

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distress message. Sally. Thank you very much, then. We will

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keep you a cross new development and we are conscious of those waiting to

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hear about the fate of the 66 passengers on board, so we are

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conscious of that. We are looking at the financial

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markets now, looking at how things have gone today and keeping you up

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to date with that news as well. It has been a mixed picture in Asia,

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markets dominated by the Federal reserve minutes released yesterday,

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after the European trading they had finished and before Asia began. The

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Federal Reserve implied it is almost ready to move again as far as the

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cost of borrowing is reserved, it would be an upward move. It is the

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big question for traders internationally, it has affected the

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dollar as well. At the moment, Europe, banking

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shares doing well today, energy stocks and mining stocks among the

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losers, but travel stocks really under pressure today, Thomas Cook

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coming out with earnings that were really quite bad, saying it will

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have a difficult summer, Thomas Cook shares down 15% today.

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Michelle Fleury is our colleague on Wall Street telling us what is

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ahead. Amazon reported its most profitable

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first quarter at the end of April thanks to growth in online sales.

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But what does that mean for the world's largest retailer, Walmart,

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which is investing in growing its presence online? The company

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reported first-quarter profit on Wednesday and many analysts expect

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the retailer to miss quarterly profit estimates. Spare a thought

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but Gap because the retailer which helps define the 90s with its khaki

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trousers appears to have lost its brand identity. Failure to connect

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with millennial has been blamed and sales of its three leading brands

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are exited to be weak when it reports its first-quarter profits.

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Investors will be looking for details of any shop closures. On the

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economic front, new applications for US unemployment benefits fell from a

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14 month high last week suggesting the Labour market remains healthy.

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Joining us is Brenda Kelly, head analyst at retail brokers

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Yesterday was all about what we read into that statement. If the economy

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improves, rates will go up. Same as it ever was. Most markets were not

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expecting a hike in June. A lot of the Fed members were hurried to try

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to change that view in case it caused a shock. We want to see

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employment continue on an even keel and inflation head towards the 2%

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mandate and geopolitical risks is starting to dissipate. The

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probability for an increase in hikes has increased to about 15%, 16%. It

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is still quite low but it was 4% a week ago. The next meeting for the

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Fed is before the Brexit referendum. You would question whether they will

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move with interest rates before having the full picture. I think it

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is just about getting the market ready but we may not be at that

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particular point just yet. Very interesting.

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Still to come: In an exclusive interview, the chairman of Fujitsu

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tells the BBC that if Britain leaves the EU, it WOULD reconsider

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The firm employs more than 14,000 staff in the UK and has invested

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more than ?3 billion over the last decade.

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You're with Business Live from BBC News.

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Royal Mail has reported another fall in profits for last year -

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the recently privatised business saw profits come in at ?237

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Rising revenues in its parcel business was offset

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by a drop in the number of letters being posted.

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The group has also had to contend with tough competition

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So what does the future hold for the now privatised service?

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He is from SLG Economics and used to be

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the Chief Economist of Postcomm the former postal regulator.

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This is a familiar tale. The parcel business does OK but the letters

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business is declining. A bit of a mixed bag full you are seeing the

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international parcels business growing very strongly, about 10%

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growth. In the UK the parcels market is not doing as well as it should

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be. It grew about 1% in revenues. Overall the parcels market is

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growing about 4%. They have lost the key Amazon account. Letters is in

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terminal decline, another 2%, 3% fall. That means they have lost 30%

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in volume over the last few years and that will continue. What is the

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outlook? It will be a real struggle. They need to get hold of that

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efficiency and look at labour costs. Labour costs make up 50% of total

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costs. That is the real issue. They are having a lot of problems with

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negotiations, in terms of the managers union Unite, and the

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workers union, CW. That does not bode well for the future. Thank you

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for that. The implications for the industry are significant. It is

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something we have talked about a lot on Business Live. Royal Mail is

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trying to fight back with the parcel business. All of the online shopping

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that gets delivered is good news for them.

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Let's show you the latest in what is happening with the missing Egypt air

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flight, MS804. They are looking for any debris showing what happened to

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that plane. EgyptAir says it received a distress

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signal although there is doubt about whether that was received. Want to

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bring you this image we have at the BBC. This is the image of the

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missing plane. It is the one that has gone missing. This has just come

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into us that the BBC. Full coverage of this on the website.

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The chairman of Fujitsu has said if Britain leaves the EU it would

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reconsider its investments in the UK. He said that Britain is the

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heart of the European region. Masami Yamamoto told the BBC that

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Britain is at the heart of the "European region"

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and that his company, the largest Japanese employer

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in the UK, wanted it to remain so. In an exclusive interview,

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he spoke to our Economics Editor Kamal Ahmed and began by asking him

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whether Britain leaving the European Union would be a threat

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to Fujitsu's UK investments. Because we believe that UK is the

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centre in the European region. That is why, for the last decade, we have

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made ?3 billion in investment. If there is any change, UK remaining in

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the EU or not, we have to be careful about watching the process and also

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the outcome and then decide if we are going to make any further

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investment or not. As I said, we have been making the most investment

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in the UK within the European region. We believe that UK will

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remain at the centre in the EU. Where we are going to make

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investment to you? We have the data centre and Clark type services. We

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have to see what the issues are and what challenges there are in the

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respective markets and regions and then make the decision about how

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much investment will be made to which area. We would like to see the

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entire EU region market as one single market. The chairman of the

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gypsy. -- Fujitsu. You'd expect there's

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been a robust response "We have seen how Downing Street has

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been cutting cosy deals with big multinational corporations

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to persuade them to back People will ask which lucrative

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Government contract or deal George Osborne has offered

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to Fujitsu to encourage them to support his campaign

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to keep us in the EU. They go on to say: "The EU works

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for big business but it doesn't work for British workers who have to send

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?350 million a week to Brussels. It's safer to take back

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control on 23 June." That debate will run and run until

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the 23rd of June. Now let's return for the latest with

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the missing EgyptAir flight. Just bring us up to date. This story

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changing by the minute. The danger is going with one bit of news that

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comes out and taking that in isolation. We are getting

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Egyptian army has denied it detected Egyptian army has denied it detected

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any distress messages from this EgyptAir flight. That of course

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contradicts with EgyptAir itself. It said it was informed by the military

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that it detected a distress message. We have the Civil aviation ministry

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saying it is too and early to confirm if it did crash. The

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counterterrorism security office said they would be surprised if they

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did not know what was happening already. They say it is an area

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where there is a lot of military action and there is likely to be a

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lot of monitoring going on. Perhaps some of the information is being

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held back. Conflicting information but no hard facts coming from any of

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the officials. All right. For now, we will leave you to get across the

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other information coming into us. Here is a quick reminder about how

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to get in touch with the programme. The web page will keep you up to

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date from the team of editors. We want to hear from you. Get involved

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on the BBC Business Live web page. We are on Twitter and Facebook.

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Business Live on TV and online, whenever you need to know. There you

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have it. To get in touch. We will have a look at some of the business

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pages. This story jumped out at me. You're getting tough on the tech

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firms. This time it is net flicks. They will have two devote 20% of

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their catalogues to European films and TV shows. It is very much

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dominated by US shows at the moment. They will have to invest a lot more

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in order to make this happen and bring it in line with traditional

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broadcasters who invest much more heavily. Netflix is pushing back

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against this. It thinks it is problematic and risks suffocating

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the market for on demand visual services. What I do like about it is

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this new rule could remove the geo- blog in, the tactic where customers

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are treated differently depending on where they are. This is something

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that may be coming into place. Really nice to see you. Thank you

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for talking us through that. Full coverage at the top of the hour on

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the missing Egypt flight, MS804. Full details after the weather. We

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appreciate your company. See you again tomorrow.

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