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This is Business Live from BBC News with Ben Thompson and Sally Bundock.

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The world's oldest bank needs to find over $5 billion

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to avoid the prospect of a government bailout.

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Live from London, that's our top story on Wednesday, 21st December.

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A bailout of Monte Pasci would see investors facing compulsory losses.

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It presents a tough choice for the new Italian Prime Minister.

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Also in the programme, a new twist in Malaysia's 1MDB scandal.

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We will have the latest from Singapore.

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And as economies grow, so too does demand for office space.

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We'll meet the man behind the firm that matches

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firms with work spaces - being dubbed Airbnb for offices.

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So we are asking where would you like to work

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A coffee shop or somewhere more scenic?

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Sally, where could be more exotic than here in the Business Live

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studio? The clock is ticking

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for the troubled lender Banco Monte The Italian bank is seeking over

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$5 billion in new investment Today is the final deadline

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for investors to buy new shares. The new Italian Prime Minister has

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sought Parliamentary approval for an emergency bailout package

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worth $20 billion if that investment money doesn't materialise

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from the private sector. That would be contentious

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because investors who already lent the bank money will be penalised

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under EU laws that came into force Poor quality loans are one

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of the biggest issues facing In total, the country's

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lenders are sitting on $370 That's about 40% of

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all the non-performing With me is Nicola Marinelli

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from the London Business School. He was a former trader for Italy's

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third largest lender, Is that right? That's right. Zbluf

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the inside track on this one. Today is very critical as Ben outlined. It

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is the chance for retail investors to get on board. Tomorrow, we are

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talking about institutional investors and hedge funds. Do you

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think they will come up with the funds they need?

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It doesn't look like it. Apparently the latest reports are that the bank

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is not actually getting the amount they are hoping for. They were

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hoping for 1.5 billion euros. But it looks like probably there won't be

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more than 800 million. If they don't get the 1.5 billion euro today from

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retail investors, does that give the wrong signal for tomorrow? Well, it

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certainly does especially because there are no anchor investors

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apparently for the new shares. There were some names floating around like

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the Qatari investment funds and probably some other hedge funds, but

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the latest news is that none of them is actually available. So probably

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everyone is basically thinking that there will be a state intervention.

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Now, talk us through how that will work. On the one hand it will break

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some EU laws and of course, it will be politically very difficult as

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well. So just talk us through that process. It is a difficult situation

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for the Government, but the banking recovery and directive that EU level

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allows for some other choices. For example, recapitalisation of the

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bank that is pre-emptive based on the fact that the bank, Monte dei

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Paschi, failed some stress tests. So this could be done with a mix of

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private money and public money. Bailing in, not all the creditors

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basically. So also the depositors above 100,000 euros threshold, but

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only the most junior creditors and the equity holders and so on. That's

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something that is more palatable for the Government. Just briefly, you've

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worked for this bank. Where has it gone wrong? Well, there have been

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several things going wrong. For example, initially the acquisition

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of a bank. It was part of ABM Am roe. It was done at the wrong price

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and there were scandals with trading, but they were not really

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big in terms of size. What is really bad now is that they have a huge

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amount of non performing loans because they have a big portfolio of

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loans in Italy and the Italian economy hasn't grown very much and

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after the crisis a lot of SMEs have been struggling and the portfolio,

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the one they want to sell now is around 30 billion euros and that

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really is a big... So a bit of a mountain to climb? Exactly. Thank

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you for your time and when we get news out of Italy today as to how

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that sale goes, we'll fill you in. US President Barack Obama has

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permanently banned new oil and gas drilling in US Atlantic and Arctic

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waters in one of his last major environmental protection actions

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before leaving office next month. Mr Obama invoked a provision

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of a 1953 law which will be difficult for president-elect

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Donald Trump to reverse. Volkswagen has struck a deal

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with the US authorities over some 80,000 VW,

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Audi and Porsche cars The agreement is another step

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towards allowing the German car-maker to put the emissions

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cheating scandal behind it. In June, VW agreed to a $15 billion

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settlement for another 475,000 The new agreement will cost

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Volkswagen an estimated $1 billion. A strike by airport baggage handlers

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and check-in staff in the UK planned for Friday and Christmas Eve has

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been called off. More than 1,500 members of the Unite

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union employed by Swissport had been due to walk out for 48 hours

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in a row over pay and conditions. There's been another

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twist in Malaysia's 1MDB Nice to see you. What's happening

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now? Well, Sally, as you mentioned 1MDB is Malaysia's state development

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fund which was set-up by the Prime Minister to supposedly help the

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country's development. But as we have been reporting, it has been

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investigated in a dozen countries including in the United States where

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it has been allegedly linked to a Hollywood movie, the Wolf of Wall

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Street. The authorities found several banks may have broken the

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law while doing business with 1MDB including Swiss bank, BSY which has

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already been kicked out of the country and former private investor

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banker for BSI who has been facing trial and he has been found guilty

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of tampering with key witnesses. So basically he was facing money

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laundering allegations and he has been found guilty that he urged his

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witnesses to destroy evidence, and he faces his sentence is tomorrow,

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but he also faces a separate trial in which he faces charges of money

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laundering which, of course, is a lot more serious next year.

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Thank you very much. I know you will stay across that story for us there

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in our Asia business hub. Back with them as soon as there is any

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developments there. This is what markets are looking

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like across Asia. It is brighter for the Japanese economy.

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The government upgraded its monthly economic assessment,

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a day after the Bank of Japan raised its view of the world's

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number three economy for the first time in over a year.

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In the US, the Dow within touching distance of the 20,000 level

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and Germany's DAX posted its highest levels this year.

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Now yesterday's move in the FTSE 100 to its highest levels

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since mid-October were primarily driven by a weak pound,

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a rebound in oil prices and a decent rally in the banking sector.

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We'll talk more on that in a moment, but first, Samira has the details

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about what's ahead on Wall Street Today.

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As we move closer to the holiday break, things are beginning

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But there are still a few bits happening that we need to note,

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including Micron Technology reporting earnings.

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Now investors are expecting the chip maker to report revenue growth

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for the first time in more than a year.

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The recent improvement in pricing for chips and flash memory chips

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is really expected to continue for the first half of 2017.

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Also reporting earnings Wednesday, consulting and outsourcing

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Now strong demand for its cloud services is expected to boost

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They have been investing heavily in digital services

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to gain market share, as it faces stiff competition

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from rivals like IBM, Infosys and Tata Consultancy

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Joining us is Simon Derrick, Chief Markets Strategist,

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Nice to see you, Simon. How are you? I'm very well. Full of the festive

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spirit? I'm always full of the festive spirit. What about the

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markets? I think they are full of the festive spirit given the that

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fact that we are approaching 20,000 on the Dow. 12 months ago, the

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Federal Reserve had hiked rates. Oil prices, everything going on. We have

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just had the Federal Reserve hike rates again and nobody cares! All we

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are talking about is politics and what Donald Trump is going to do. A

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huge shift this year in what the market focus is on and probably a

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good thing as well. We have stopped focussing purely on interest rates,

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politics and the spending partners of governments have become a big

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story, we are having to re-think everything about the way we look at

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markets. The joy, you know, investors are not looking really at

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interest rates and policy anymore, they are all looking at Trump, it

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makes a change that we don't have to look at them for a while either.

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That's been the story of the year, when rates would go up, if, when and

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by how much? That moved and it is about spending. He shifted the focus

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with regard to interest rates from what the Central Bank is going to

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do, but what is happening about the borrowing costs for governments? It

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will make for an interesting 2017 because first of all we have seen to

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what Mr Trump is going to do. I think that's going to be fascinating

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and I'm interested, given the fact that he's so keen to revitalise US

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industry, what he is going to do about a strong dollar, that could be

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a drag on some of the exporters. I think China, currency policy next

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year will be a big story and European politics. Oh, of course.

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That's the political risk of 2017, isn't it? That's where the shift

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will be for us next year. OK, Simon, you're not off the hook. You have

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got to come back in five minutes and share more of your thoughts and

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views on things. Yes, including sherry!

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Why demand for office space could give us a better

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We meet the firm that matches empty offices

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You're with Business Live from BBC News.

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People who buy drones could have to register it and take a test

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to prove they can fly it safely under new rules proposed

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Do you think you'd pass the test? Probably not!

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There were 59 near misses involving drones and airliners

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have been reported in the UK over the past 12 months.

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Our technology correspondent Rory Cellan-Jones has this report.

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Earlier this month, Amazon made its first delivery by drone.

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Just one potential use of an exciting new technology.

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But after a number of reports from pilots of near-misses

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with drones, there is mounting concern about safety.

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If people don't use drones responsibly and follow the rules

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and regulations that are in place, obviously, that is a safety issue,

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first of all, but could also affect the long-term future

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There are already plenty of regulations.

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For example, I cannot fly here because we are too close

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While professional users of drones have to register

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with the Civil Aviation Authority, anyone else can just buy

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The Government is consulting on regulations which would mean

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new drones would have to be registered, users would have to pass

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a theory test like that for drivers, and there would be tougher penalties

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Peter, an experienced drone owner, believes it is already too complex.

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If you put in too complicated rules, you will scare people off and deny

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the future industry this pool of talent that we need.

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There will be thousands of new drone owners this Christmas.

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Whenever new rules come in, they are being told they will be

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Can you fly a drone? Have you tried? No. Actually, I'd love, to try. My

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hand, eye co-ordination, it is forward, back, up, down. I have been

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in public parks where there has been one circling above us and it worried

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me to bits and there is some child miles away manning this thing and

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I'm thinking, "Don't get it get stuck on my head."

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A warning about borrowing for spending during Christmas, it is a

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worry, Citizen's Advice have a report out today.

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The clock is ticking for Italian lender Monte dei Paschi.

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The world's oldest bank needs to find over $5 billion

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in new investment, otherwise it faces the prospect of

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This could prove a contentious move by the new Italian Prime Minister,

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as EU laws would force investors to take compulsory losses.

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A lot at stake today. We will keep you up-to-date.

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How can you measure the health of an economy?

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Well, there are the official stats, of course, but they tell

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So it's said that looking at demand for office space can give

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When economies are growing, more people are in work,

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and that means demand for office space grows, and so does the rent.

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Commercial property space is worth a whopping 11

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The tech industry is one reason behind the growing

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demand for office space, accounting for 20%

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of all office leasing in the first half of the year.

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But in the UK, the number of people working from non-conventional office

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spaces has risen to its highest level since records began.

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Tech start-up Ofixu aims to take advantage of this.

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It is an online marketplace allowing hosts to list all types

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of workspaces for any type of work for as long as they need.

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And the founder and chief executive of Ofixu Dan Hinden

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Did I say it right? It is Ofixu. We have been struggling with Monte dei

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Paschi this morning! You love saying that!

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It rolls off the tongue! This is the latest in several tech

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start-ups that you have been involved in. You were involved with

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another company. We are doing really well, aren't we! That rivalled a B

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sometime ago. This latest offering is like that for office space, is

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that one way of describing it? Yes, I went to work for that company, a

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rival in Europe, and my learnings were that it is easy, and it should

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be, to attain and maintain listings or property hosts onto a platform

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where they can start earning income on otherwise under utilised space.

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Why would you not be able to do that? It brings you up to date with

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Ofixu today. We have looked at these start-ups, we call them disrupters,

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they are changing the way it has always been done. Office space is

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one of those but is ripe for change, because why take on a big overhead

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with a fixed contract for five or ten years when you don't know if you

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will need it, you might need more or less? There is a computer-based $16

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billion valuation, the co-working market is booming, but there is

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still a lot of underutilised space, 4.2 billion's 4.2 million visitors

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is that employed just the owner, so there is an document for freelance

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or contractor types, who would prefer not to work in a coffee shop,

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because it is not as conducive as a nearby spare desk. We engage with

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all of those types of spaces in all environments globally. How do you

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manage the bits that you don't know about, when you I tried to rent a

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bit of space for a period of time, what the neighbours like, how noisy

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it is next door? How slow the Wi-Fi is, how difficult various other

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matters are? Does that make sense? Of course. There is a plethora of

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listings on our platform, 85 cities, with different hosts. There are

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regulations for each office space, regulations for each office space,

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you may not be able to run -- bring your pet in, you may not be able to

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rent for under a month, but the host. You let that on their rules or

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regulations of. The host says what they want, but you get those who

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review it afterwards? Absolutely, the ratings and reviews side will

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drive the decision on the consumer side. Those who have rented space

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will rate and review those listings. I can see why this is great news for

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businesses. As far as landlords are concerned, I imagine they are less

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happy, because it brings the rent down, and they are only paid for

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when it is occupied? It comes up a lot. The landlord might say, we will

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sublease our space, if we do it to a company and they have seven desks

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but only three are being used, what good is that to me? Are you not

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paying a fixed overhead? You are, but if the landlord is flexible

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enough with the leasing contract, there is no reason why he can't go

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in with the tenant and say, we are happy for you to co-worker with

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another company, and we can split the income. There are plenty of land

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laws that are winning to do that. But there are so many areas we can

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push you with this. Dan, from Monte dei Paschi. -- from Ofixu.

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In a moment, we'll take a look through the business pages,

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but first here's a quick reminder of how to get in touch with us.

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keep you up-to-date with the insight and analysis from our team of

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editors around the world. We want to hear from you. Get in touch on the

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BBC web page. We are on Twitter and Facebook. On TV and online, whenever

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you need to know. What other business

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stories has the media been Simon Derrick, chief markets

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strategist, Bank of New York Mellon, What is your office like? What would

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you like to see? A coffee machine in my office, those espressos when I

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need them. That is not happening any time soon! Dougal would like his bed

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in his office. I could have done without! Scott says, somewhere that

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is calm and inspirational, where you can see the sea. That is quite

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specific! We would like a window. It would be

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nice to have a real window. Let's look at this story, in the daily

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Mirror. This is one of our tabloid newspapers. ?1 per second, the

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numbers behind Carlos Tevez' proposed wages in China. That is

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quite phenomenal. It is. The statistics, he will earn more per

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week than Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi combined, or the same

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amount. They worked out that he could buy a brand-new Porsche 911

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everyday. I work in the City of London, even I think that this

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remarkable. Even you! Do they get this money back?

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Presumably they must they? In terms of sponsorship, sailor shirts, that

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kind of stuff, TV rights? Clearly, you have to sit there and think

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about how this works through. Until I read the story, I had not even

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heard of this team, so I am not sure how the sponsorship and everything

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else works. Football in Asia, Premier League football, is huge.

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The sponsorship for the British clubs, the support, absolutely

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amazing. ?1 a second, it is not bad going! I and whizzing through this

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and I am coming up with all thought. Let's look at Apple in the Indian

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press. Looking for manufacturing in India.

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Their slice of the smartphone pie. In many developed economies we talk

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about the two horse race between Apple and some song, you look at

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this graphic and you realise how many makers there are, and why Apple

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is such a small player in India. It makes the point that we tend to

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think of the high-end mobile phones, you are going to talk about far more

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user-friendly phones if you are going out to India, for example,

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when you are talking about that networks that cannot support a lot

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of the functions. They are talking about India overtaking the US in

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being the second largest market in the world for smartphones, so it

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makes sense for Apple, if it has stalling sales, to start trying to

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get into India. The save Santa's Sherry campaign has been launched by

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the Wine and spirit trade association, sales of sherry has

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more than halved in the last decade. I am glad we have got onto the

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serious issue! This has been the big story, and my specialist area. It is

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a key question. We leave whiskey. There are those revisionists that

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want to go down this route, but sherry is the traditional drink,

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along with a mince pie and a coward or the reindeer. Every year, and

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every year he drinks it. Amazing. The carrot goes as well.

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