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This is Business Live from BBC News with Sally Bundock and Ben Thompson.

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Has the Santa rally skidded to a halt?

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The Dow Jones is in touching distance of the historic 20,000

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mark, but can it hit the top spot before Christmas?

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Live from London, that's our top story on Thursday 23rd December.

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US markets have closed at record highs 17 times since Donald Trump

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We'll ask an expert if the run is set to continue.

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And a view on the latest Trump appointments, as ever controversial.

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The Chinese e-commerce giant has been placed on the US list

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We'll cross live to Asia for the latest.

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Here, the markets lower slightly, we talk you through the winners and the

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And we'll be getting festive with Fortnums.

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The boss of iconic food drink retailer Fortnum and Mason will be

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here to give us the Inside Track on the busiest time of the year.

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And new research says using Facebook and Twitter at Christmas will make

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So we want to know - are you taking a break from social

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Don't panic, it is December 20 seconds today, I said 23rd and I got

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worried because I have got so much to do!

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We start on Wall Street, where it seems this chap has

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made an appearance - because the Grinch has,

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temporarily at least, stolen Christmas.

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They have been calling it a Santa Rally -

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and after a week of record closes, investors were expecting

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to celebrate the Dow Jones Industrial Average hitting 20,000

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points for the first time on Wednesday.

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Instead they got this - the Dow closed down 32

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It got within 15 points of 20,000 before falling back.

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Market watchers say investors have been cashing in their profits

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after what has been the biggest post-election rally

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Since Donald Trump was elected, the Dow has climbed 9% -

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putting gains for this year at almost 15%.

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The US Dollar has also been soaring against major currencies,

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Against the Pound in particular, it's up over 16% this year

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And the price of oil has rebounded massively - gains for Brent Crude

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Some experts are warning though that the US stock market

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in particular is getting ahead of itself.

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Tom Stevenson is the Investment Director at Fidelity International.

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Sally touching on the idea that the market is getting ahead of itself.

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It is very close to that 20,000, especially look King at the doubt,

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is that the danger there is this euphoria and New Year is the harsh

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reality when we find out what President Donald Trump will deliver?

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That is a danger and I suspect it will not happen in the New Year but

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at some point next year, there might be a bit of a wobble. The market has

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borrowed a lot from next year, we have had a very strong rally. And

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the rally is right up with the biggest post-election rallies of the

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last century and some of those did not end well, one of the biggest was

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1920s before the crash. 2004 was big and it led up to the financial

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crisis. Yes, there is a lot of optimism and anticipation about the

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growth which Trump is expected to deliver next year. Is there a sense

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that because for once we can look at something other than monetary

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policy, it is no longer about interest rates and inflation, that

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seems to have stabilised? The economy in America is looking OK and

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people think they can talk about something else and not keep their

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eyes just on the Fed. There is an element on that. Since the financial

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crisis over the last seven years, it has been a poor market, the Dow has

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tripled in that seven year period. And it has been a really grudging

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move. Investors looking forward to next year, spending, tax cuts,

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deregulation and they are very excited about it. They are looking

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at top Trumps. Some of President-elect Donald Trump's

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appointments and the latest is Peter Navarro, an economist, in markets

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adviser who has written a book about China, talking about... You can see

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him here, the bad influence China has had on the US economy and so on.

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He will head up a newly created body on trade will stop what is your take

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on these appointments, like Rex Tillotson, Secretary of State. It is

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a mixed bag! Donald Trump made some pretty bullish promises during the

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campaign and everybody said, let's see what happens when he gets into

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power, will he follow through with that or will he become more

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presidential and predictable? If you look at the Cabinet appointments so

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far, they are pretty punchy appointments. Peter Navarro is a

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good example, very outspoken and China. He has talked about getting

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closer to Taiwan, very per property of the China. We will see how that

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turns out. What does that mean for trade? Thinking about the New Year

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with the Trump presidency and also Brexit. That is the flip side of

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Donald Trump, we have optimism about growth but what he has said about

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global trade could be potentially quite negative. We just saw a

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graphic showing market performance over the year, put it in

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international context, not the best performing, the Dow? No, it is very

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strong but the emerging markets are very good.

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Argentina and Brazil right up there. Wonderful, nice to see you, thank

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you. He will be back later, he has more to do including looking at some

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of the other business stories in the press today.

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The Italian Parliament has approved a government plan

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for a possible E20bn bailout of the country's banks.

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The Italian Treasury will probably have to rescue Italy's

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third largest lender, Monte dei Paschi, by

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The rescue fund will be used to prop up other banks as well.

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Ride-sharing firm Uber has suspended tests of its self-driving cars

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in San Francisco after regulators revoked the registration

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Passengers had recently been given the option of a booking

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But authorities had threatened legal action if Uber did not obtain

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Billionaire investor Carl Icahn will serve as a special adviser

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to President-elect Donald Trump - focusing on regulatory reform.

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Mr Icahn has criticised what he called "excessive

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He is a major shareholder in companies including insurer AIG

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Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba is back on America's blacklist over

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The list is a rollcall of so-called "notorious markets".

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to Alibaba's attempts to expand out of China.

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Being on this blacklist is not great for a firm that wants to portray

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itself as an international player to take some the likes of eBay and

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Amazon. Not at all. And the company was only taken off the list four

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years ago but the US authorities have said that the company and its

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online platform is used to sell high-level goods. Alibaba has

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rejected these allegations, saying it polices the marketplace a lot

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better than in the past. And it also suggested today's political climate

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in America might have something to do with the fact it is back on the

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blacklist. They are talking about President-elect Donald Trump

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repeatedly accused China of stealing intellectual property during the

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election. And just appointing an outspoken China critic as the head

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of the new trade body. But Donald Trump has not taken office so I am

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sure the US authorities would disagree with Alibaba's speculation

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that has anything to do with the fact it is back on the blacklist.

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Thank you very much, from Singapore. Plenty more to come.

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The boss of iconic food drink retailer Fortnum and Mason will be

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here to give us the Inside Track on the busiest time of the year.

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You're with Business Live from BBC News.

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The Government is to reinvest more than ?440 million to improve

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high-speed broadband coverage across the UK.

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It is expected the funds, which have been recouped

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from the superfast broadband programme, could bring better

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connectivity to an extra 600,000 rural homes.

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Theo Leggett is in our Business Newsroom.

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This is not new money, this is from a fund already, but long overdue for

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people struggling with slow service in rural areas. Absolutely. The

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Government's target is by the end of next year, 95% of the country should

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have so-called superfast broadband. What does that mean? A broadband

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speed of 24 megabits per second. Enough for several people in the

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House to stream video at the same time. 95% sounds good and the

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Government is on track, BT is on track to deliver that. But that last

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5% is people in remote areas, rural areas, hardest to connect. This is

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extra money to help that process. Where is it from? 150 million from

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cost savings and the rest from BT which is subsidised to set up the

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infrastructure for this. If enough people sign up to superfast

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broadband, it has to give some of that back. That is why it 290

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million is coming from it. We have to be careful about this because

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what the Government is doing is superfast broadband to the Cabinet,

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which means fibre-optic cables laid the cabinets and villages and people

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get connected by copper wires to their homes. But the further you are

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away from this Cabinet, the slow at your broadband speed gets, like

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putting the brakes on. From opponents, the argument is more

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needs to be done to improve the service from the cabinets to the

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home and deliver fibre-optic broadband to the home and until that

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is done, we will still be stuck in the slow lane. 440 million is

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welcome money and it does represent progress, at least, that is what

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people are saying. Thank you very much. Maybe we are in

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the slow lane but pushing up a gear. You would hope so, especially for

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people in rural areas, it is a real problem for business and consumers.

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More detail on that on the website, the top story this morning.

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Broadband boost for MOTs parts of the UK. -- remote parts.

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We are looking at the rally on financial markets in the US,

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hovering near 20,000. Some investors are pointing

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to the influence of The billionaire businessman has

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picked several high-profile figures Yes, most recently, he's

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appointed Peter Navarro - an outspoken critic of China -

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as the head of a new White A quick look at how

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markets are faring. They are in Europe and they are all

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slightly down, if not flat, following a similar close the night

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before. So a lot of people bringing down and some traders might not even

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be at work today. But Tom is at work!

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I am at work today. We will look at some of the newspaper stories. This

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caught my eye, Saudi Arabia against the shift from oil to solar power. I

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found the second line interesting, it brings more fossil fuels than any

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other country to generate power, so there is a feeling Saudi Arabia

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produces this oil and sells at overseas but that is not the case.

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Yes, Saudi Arabia uses 900,000 barrels a day to generate

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electricity, costing the equivalent of $16 billion. Which it is not

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gaining in exports to other countries. Saudi Arabia is going

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through a big transition to get itself weaned off a dependence on

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oil revenues, to diversify its economy. And so one thing it is

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talking about is shifting from oil to solar energy. It needs that $16

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billion which is essential to balance its budget.

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It is introducing a lot of new changes and today is budget day in

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Saudi Arabia and they are expected to announce new taxes for expats.

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The price of electricity and water, a lot of things expected to go up, a

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big shift in the near future. This is behind this decision to lead

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Opec into a production cut. It needs higher revenues. Let's talk about

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Facebook, Twitter. In fact, Facebook lurking makes people miserable.

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Looking at wonderful pictures of family and friends having a great

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Christmas and you are sitting looking at it and it makes you

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miserable? Social interaction via social media is fine, you are

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connecting with people. But if you are sitting there looking at how

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wonderful other people's lives are, then it will be miserable. We ask

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people to get in touch with us. All I am going to do is upload. Danny

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says quitting Facebook is one of the best decisions I have ever made.

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Baby, who are you? We like your name. Christmas Eve and Christmas

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Day gaining ?15 from tasty goodies and lots of booze.

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Steve says, it I would rather give up social media for 2017. It is a

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necessary evil in many jobs these days? Absolutely, in our world, it

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is a fantastic source of information. But you can find

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yourself spending a lot of time staring at the screen. You have

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teenage children, do you have a family rule? My children are a bit

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beyond rules on social media. They are a bit older than that and they

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do what they like. They do spend a lot of time on social media. I have

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not been out for a meal with my daughter for a very long time when

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she has not taken a picture of it. I am with briny, it is time to put the

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tech down and go out and have a nice walk around the Yorkshire

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countryside. Friend of mine has complete ban on

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social media on Sundays. Lots of people take a week out, take a week

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out and switch everything. That is a good resolution, sugary sign up to

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that now. This is our pledge in 2017. Nice to see you. Merry

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Christmas. Have a good one, we will see you in the New Year.

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Now, no festive gifts for a Brazilian firm that's facing

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Ode-brecht - which is the largest engineering firm in Latin America,

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and its affiliate Braskem - appeared at a court

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These are their lawyers arriving - before agreeing to pay more

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than $3 billion to settle charges under the US

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They have admitted paying out hundreds of millions of dollars

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to Brazilian state oil firm Petrobras and others to secure

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From New York, here's Samira Hussain.

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In a New York court on Wednesday Odebrecht agreed to pay

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at least $2.6 billion to US, Swiss and Brazilian authorities

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making this the largest foreign bribery case in history.

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But this is a Brazilian company, so why is this case happening

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It's because the company was found guilty of violating the US foreign

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The American laws are so vast and wide sweeping, that as soon

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as a company has any dealings that tie it to the US, they are

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And the troubles for some Brazilian firms may not end here.

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The sources I have here in Brazil who were directly involved

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in the negotiations for this leniency for this plea

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deal that we saw play out today, they have told me that literally up

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to 100 new investigations could come from this still.

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The reason for that is because Odebrecht agreed

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to pay this enormous fine, this historic fine.

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The flip side is, 77 of their executives have turned

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state witness and they are now giving testimony to Brazilian

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prosecutors about anyone's guess, about what other crimes

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It is expected up to 200 Brazilian politicians could be

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Earlier this year, the Odebrecht chief executive was jailed in Brazil

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for paying bribes to executives at Brazil's state run oil firm

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Petrobras, which has been under investigation for corruption

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and bribery that has entangled Brazil's political officials.

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Just to say, we shocked you at the beginning saying it was the 23rd of

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December, it is not, it is the 22nd. If you are like me, there is so much

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to do before the 25th. Have you done your Christmas shopping?

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It has not all arrived. I am waiting for things.

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Turkey? Two things for two children. Bit of a problem. I will not mention

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the company names. And now - have you done

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your Christmas shopping? This week is the busiest time

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of year for many businesses, especially supermarkets

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and grocery stores. With record amounts

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expected to be spent over the next 48 hours -

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what's life really Well, one man who knows that all too

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well is the Chief Executive of high-end retailer Fortnum

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and Mason, Ewan Venters. Fortnum Mason is one

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of the world's most famous It is most known for its food

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hampers, which can cost The first hamper was sold in 1730,

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and it still enjoys impressive popularity today, with the company

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saying sales for this In the course of the past financial

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year, Fortnum's has served more than 2 million customers and has

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delivered its products to 128 Let's talk to the man in charge. He

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has brought in the classic hamper, I understand. Classic Christmas

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hamper. Various things on the table here as well, which are extremely

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tempting. 20% so far this year, where is it coming from which a big

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boost in sales, is it because the pound has fallen in value? Over the

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last few months we have seen a positive impact with international

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visitors. Fundamentally, just because the fall of the pan, people

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don't buy more smoked salmon, more hampers? It makes it cheaper? It

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does, but it is the strength of the domestic consumer. We have seen

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fantastic group of people living in London and around the United Kingdom

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from our web business. That is a shift you have introduced since she

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became the boss at Fortnum Mason, you have been with them for four

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years? Yes, 60% of our business was international. We set out on a

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journey to make that shift. 60% of our business is now led by people

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with a UK address. We have become more relevant to more people across

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the UK. Why did you engineer that shift? When I think about Fortnum

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Mason and I think about these gorgeous products, I do think it is

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the tourism issue, tourist attraction? We have been in business

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for over 300 years and we have always been relevant to the smart

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people of the United Kingdom. It was easy to re-engage and become more

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relevant. International visitors, they want to know where the people

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of Britain shop, where the smart people of Britain shop, where the

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Royals shop and whether great quality ingredients can be found. It

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was an obvious strategy to deploy and it is working. It is not only

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about where they shop, and also where this stuff comes from. You

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make a big thing of sourcing the stuff from the UK. All made

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particularly in the North of England? 70% of the stuff is bought

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from British suppliers. Christmas puddings are made by two sisters in

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Lancashire who have been making thousands of Christmas puddings for

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the last 20 years. Shortbread comes from Leith in Edinburgh, chocolate

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from Brighton, that he is blended in Newcastle. Every part of the United

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Kingdom can benefit from the sales that go to the Fortnum Mason

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brand. Of your products, what percentage are made in the UK, what

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percentage from overseas? 70% is made here in the United Kingdom. It

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is all the small producers. Sieve ingredients that go into every

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single product that is produced in different parts of the British

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Isles. The aspects that are not made in the UK, so for example, the tea

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or other elements made in other countries, how across Ayew of the

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supply chain? I remember one of our journalists did a piece about tea

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picking in India and said some of this tea is sold in Fortnum Mason,

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Harrods and various other big stores around the world. How can you be so

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diligent about that because it is so important to your brand? It is

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hugely important, we have a strong team of buyers and technologists who

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travel the world, meet with our producers and suppliers. They

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understand all of the upstream products. It is expensive, but an

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essential part of us doing business because people expect very high

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standards, exacting high standards from our brand. Speaking of people

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who expect high standards, at the Royal warrant. How important is

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that? Potential queens to be, royal family from around the world are

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regular shoppers? They are and we are proud of that association. We

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have had a Royal warrant since the beginning, I think it is 165 years.

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How important is it to be to sell off the back of that? We were issued

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the warrant is because the Royals considers to be so good at what we

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do. We are honoured to have the warrant of Her Majesty The Queen and

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the Prince of Wales. It does make a difference. People look at the Royal

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warrant as a standard-bearer of great quality, authenticity and

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trust. It is true of domestic customers, but certainly of

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customers around the world. You did have European queens? The Duchess of

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Cornwall is a great shopper of ours and on a more recent visit I was

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taking her around the store and we bumped into three European queens

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and a queen to be. It was a good moment. Goodness me. Thank you for

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coming in. Happy Christmas. Tomorrow is the Christmas live Christmas

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special. So June into that.

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