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This is Business Live from BBC News with Ben Thompson and Sally Bundock.

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Voting is under way in South Korea - but will new leadership make

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Kante break the cosy relationship between big business and government?

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Live from London, that's our top story on Tuesday 9th May.

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South Korea's massive conglomerates dominate the country's economy,

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but the election frontrunners say that more needs to be done to tackle

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Who will win and what can they achieve?

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Also in the programme, there's a new kid on the block

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in the world of online payments - can the Chinese giant

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Alipay give Paypal a run for its money in the US?

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We will take you three winners and losers in Europe, on the they are

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all up. Also in the programme,

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we'll get the inside track on a smartwatch that allows parents

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to keep tabs on their children. But is wearable tech really

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the solution to parenting problems - Welcome to the programme. Please get

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in touch with your views on that story about parenting, wearable

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technology, or anything else we are covering.

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South Korea is just a few hours away from finding out

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The election comes after the former President Park Geun-Hye was removed

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from office as part of an ongoing investigation into corruption.

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The country's economy bounced back strongly

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following the 2008 financial crisis, but in recent years,

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quarterly growth has struggled to break above 1%.

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What are the presidential hopefuls offering to try to change the

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fortunes of South Korea? The current frontrunner Moon Jae-In

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has vowed to boost government spending and create

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over 800,000 new jobs His main rival - Ahn Cheol-Soo -

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feels the government should be more cautious with its spending plans,

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but both candidates are united over Big business is still reeling from a

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money for influence scandal that has seen several top executives grilled

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by politicians. This includes the bosses of massive

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corporations such as Samsung, In the past, large conglomerates

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were credited with South Korea's rise to economic prominence,

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but now many experts are questioning whether the country has

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become too over-reliant To give you a sense of scale -

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the biggest company in South Korea is Samsung,

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the group spans every aspect of life and its business

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accounts for roughly 20% of Currently the 10 biggest companies

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in South Korea account for nearly a quarter of the country's total

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corporate tax revenue. With me is Agathe L'Homme,

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Asia analyst at the Sally getting into some of the

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details there about how the chaebol works, the influence they have over

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the South Korean economy. How dominant are they, how much pressure

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can they exert on politics and economics? They are very dominant

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and can exercise a lot of pressure. I think that is what we have seen

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with Park Geun-Hye, the former President, that was impeached. The

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Vice President of Samsung is in jail on bribery charges, which he denies.

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They have a very cosy relationship. The candidates running in the

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election right now have been campaigning on that topic very

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intensely. We do expect changes in that regard. How likely is it they

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can break up that cosy relationship? We posed the question at the start

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of the programme, the links are so intertwined with many parts of

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society and the economy. Is it realistic to expect there will be

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cut overnight? They will not be cut overnight, I don't think that is

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desirable. But there should be some reining in happening. The leading

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candidate, Moon Jae-In, has been campaigning on that topic. There are

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already bills in the pipeline. Should he be elected, that is

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forecast, he will have momentum to pass them through the National

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Assembly. It is probably easy as outsiders to criticise the system.

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We should also remember that system is what has but South Korea on the

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map will stop economically, some of the most well-known names in the

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world have come from South Korea, Samsung or the other is that Sally

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Ryan through. It is a double-edged sword, it works, but we have seen

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the downside? Yes. Domestically, what is problematic is that they

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have such a strong hold on the economy that there is no trickling

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down any more. A lot of SMEs are suffering, suppliers of the big

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chaebol, they don't really see growth happening. A word on North

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Korea, we can't talk about the south without concern for the North, what

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effect could not have? We see Moon Jae-In wanting to re-engage with the

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North. We think they could rekindle the Sunshine Policy, and to the

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regime. That is one we will all watch closely. Really nice to see

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you. Let's take a look at some of

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the other stories making the news. Toshiba has told its memory chip

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partner Western Digital not to interfere with the sale

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of its chip unit. Western Digital claims

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that the Japanese firm has breached a contract between the two

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by transferring rights it doesn t Toshiba says it will use

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all available remedies if Western Digital continues

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to pursue the complaint A woman who alleges she was sexually

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harassed at Fox News has asked UK media regulators to block 21st

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Century Fox's planned Ofcom is examining the bid

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for the UK broadcaster, Dr Wendy Walsh's legal team says

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the deal would allow Fox to bring a "culture of sexual and racial

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harassment" to the UK. The company says it has addressed

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the allegations and made The International Monetary Fund has

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raised its growth forecast for the Asia Pacific region to 5.5

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percent from its previous But the IMF also warned

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that the near-term outlook for the region is "clouded

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with significant uncertainty". In a report, the fund said

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medium-term growth faced difficulties from a slowdown

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in productivity growth in both Alipay, China's biggest

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online payments platform, is stepping up its global expansion

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with a major foray into North America -

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the home of PayPal and ApplePay. Leisha Chi is across

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the story from our Asia Tell us what Ali pay has in mind?

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PayPal is the 800 pound gorilla in the room when it comes to mobile

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payments. But this new deal for Alipay puts it in the same league as

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ApplePay. Basically, users will now be allowed to use the app to shop at

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4 million merchants in the US. That is quite significant. The Chinese

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billionaire that owns Alipay has billionaire that owns Alipay has

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declared his intention is to expand his business empire globally. He is

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looking at the US, the world's biggest consumer market. In China,

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Alipay already dominates the mobile payment landscape, together with

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rival they account for most of the market. If the foray into the US is

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successful, they can expand into other countries where they don't

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have a presence. It's a smart move, we are seeing increasing numbers of

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Chinese travelling each year and they will be able to use Alipay to

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book cabs, hotels and so forth. book cabs, hotels and so forth.

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Interesting, we will keep an eye on that.

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Lets see how markets fared. Japan down by 0.25%. A mixed picture in

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Asia. Most markets down slightly because the previous day was such a

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strong start to the week. Over 2% gain on Monday. A bit of a sell-off.

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Sony is one of the big winners. Let's look at how Europe is faring.

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Markets across the board or edging slightly higher. Oil prices are flat

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after yesterday's jump off the back of rumours... Well, not rumours,

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statements from Opec about plans to keep production cuts in place for

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longer, to try to keep the price of oil higher. Now what is ahead on

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Wall Street. Two media companies will be

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reporting earnings on Tuesday, The recent film Beauty

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and the Beast will help lift But the other part of the company,

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ESPN, it has been losing The company will have to pacify

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investors with a plan to strengthen ESPN, whilst also finding a capable

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replacement to chief executive Bob Iger, who will be

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stepping down in 2019. The decline in newspaper advertising

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will certainly heard News Corp's earnings,

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they own newspapers like the Wall Street Journal,

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the Dow Jones newswires As part of its digital push,

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the company has been cutting jobs, Joining us is Jeremy Cook,

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Chief Economist, World First. Staying with the American team, the

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issue that was being raised there, a lot of corporate news? But also we

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heard from the Fed? Yes, trying to re-energise the communication coming

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out of there. It has gone quiet in the last couple of weeks. Almost a

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100% probability they will raise rates in June. It is a case of

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whether they will come out and say, yes, we are going to do something in

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June. Much like we heard from the IMF in Asia, there is still

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uncertainty and clouds around this, they are not going to 2% any time

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soon. They should call them the Fed Talk, you know, like the TED talk?

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With Sony, quite interesting, following the fact that Emmanuel

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Macron did get the election in France, it has gone quite quiet? It

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has, we were expecting a bit of a bump and we got the tiniest bump,

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and then everybody said, well, now the focus turns to the legislative

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elections and whether he can get a mandate within Parliament to be able

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to get up there and do what he was elected to do. The main conversation

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I heard on Sunday night was, yes, France, but what about Italy?

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Everybody is talking about the possible Italian election. Sony is

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interesting, that has been around for years and years. Every time you

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see Sony, it is new profit warnings. But they are starting to come back,

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we are getting upgrades by Goldman Sachs. The oil price is going to be

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capped, largely due to the fact that Opec are going to keep the cats

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going into the market, the price remains pretty stable. An

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interesting place to leave it, you're going to talk about how

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petrol stations work out how much to charge? Robots are controlling as!

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We know that already. Is wearable tech really the solution

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to parenting problems - Should kids be left to be kids? We

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will find out later. on a smartwatch that allows parents

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to keep tabs on their children. You're with Business

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Live from BBC News. Theresa May has promised to end

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the injustice of rising energy costs by including a cap

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in the Conservative general The Prime Minister says the energy

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market "is not working", with vulnerable people worst hit

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by rip-off bills. Industry groups have

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criticised the plan, first announced last month,

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saying it could lead Labour, which offered its own bill

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cap ahead of the 2015 election, accused the Tories

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of desperate stuff. Chris Mason is at

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Westminster for us. We are getting some details ahead of

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the manifesto launch about what they might want to talk about today,

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energy? It is. Energy is the big focus today. The Conservatives,

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quite striking, trying to put themselves on the side of consumers

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rather than the big energy providers. The other thing that is

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striking is that it has a ring of familiarity about it. Why? Well,

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here is the Labour manifesto from two years ago. Labour will freeze

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energy bills until 2017, ensuring they can fall but not rise, and will

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give the regulator the power to cut bills this winter. The Conservatives

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seem to have done a bit of a cut and paste job. The idea was popular when

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it Ed Miliband floated it, Conservatives decided to take it on

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board two years on. They say it is different and more subtle, it is

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less crude. But the similarities are pretty striking. The question is,

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will it be a vote winner and is it a promise they can keep? They will

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hope it is, that is the short answer to the first question. In terms of

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whether it is something they can keep in terms of a promise, this is

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where it gets a bit complicated. It would involve the regulator, of

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common. There will have to be a consultation. -- of common. If there

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are variations in the wholesale price, bills could still rise and

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fall. The extent to which consumers will notice instantly, we will have

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to wait and see. When we get news about the

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manifesto, we'll fill you in. If you want more details on the energy

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story, you'll find it on the BBC Business Live page.

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It has details from Labour, of course, as you heard from Chris

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Mason who already proposed it in a previous election campaign.

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This is Business Live. Today we're focussed on South Korea. In a few

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hours we will find out who the next Prime Minister will be. We have been

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looking at what influence business has on politics in the country.

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Let's look at markets quickly to bring you up-to-date. In Europe,

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they were up by a quarter of a percent when we last looked. We'll

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bring you the numbers later. The numbers are on the screen.

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That's what Europe is doing. So details there. As you can see,

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another rise in the CAC and the DAX. Imagine losing your

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child at a theme park - something most people

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would rather forget. But witnessing another parent's

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panic resulted in our next guest giving up her career in investment

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banking to become Last year, Colleen Wong launched

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a smartphone watch, the Gator, it allows parents to keep track

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of their kids, without having But Colleen says being a start-up

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boss is not glamorous. As well as running a company,

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she is a busy mum To keep costs down she employs two

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flexible staff who look after IT and social media marketing,

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and three advisors who are friends So far, the business has received no

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outside investment yet, but Colleen With me is Colleen Wong,

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developer of the Gator watch and founder of child tracker firm,

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TechSixtyFour. Explain how the Gator watch works.

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So it has a button here that can call mum or dad or up to ten other

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members of the family and it is a tracker as well. Parents can

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download the Gator app and track where their child is and uses GPS

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when the child is outdoors and wi-fi when it is indoors. It is something

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kids would probably want to wear. We touched on there why you saw the

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need for it. Talk us through the moment when you realised this could

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be a great product? I was with my two kids at a farm park and I

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witnessed a mum running around looking for her five or six-year-old

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son... It wasn't me, was it? That mum could have been looking for my

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child and it does cause a moment where your heart stops for a few

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minutes. In terms of how this works, you put the sim in yourself. So, if

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we were to purchase this watch, we have to come to you to get the sim

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and to get it up and running and it links up to any mobile network

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wherever you happen to be, Vodafone, O 2 or EE or anything? No. I've done

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it this way. As a parent, we don't have that much time. I wanted to

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make it, easy solution for parents when they buy the watch, they sign

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up for the service plan online and it connects within 24 hours. I guess

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it varies where you are in the world. We posed this question at the

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start of the programme, could kids not be kids? Part of the fun of

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doing a kid you had independence just as you were starting to grow

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up, as long as you didn't go too far and your parents would know you come

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back at the end of the day, does that ruin that element? I think

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times have changed and parents are more worried when their kids are out

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and about on their own. So, when they want to give there. When they

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think about giving their child a snOn, that increases other worries,

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access to the internet, too much gaming, too much screen time. So

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what's the happy medium? I think my solution offers that. You can stay

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connected, but you don't have to have them using a smartphone and

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getting access to too much information. The difficulty I have

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to say, my children haven't got smart devices, but my son who is

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nine, who I might get one of those for because he is all over the shop

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and wild and I'd love to know where he is half the time. He would like

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an Apple watch and he would want to swipe around and play games and do

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all this stuff and that doesn't provide that. I would have a job

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convincing him to wear that, I think? No, I agree. And that's the

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thing, it's trying to keep that on a child. What I'm trying to do is work

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with various partners to make it more exciting for children. So when

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I do my crowdfunding and when I raise funds licensing would be

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something I would be looking at. So I imagine this watch with the strap,

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with Star Wars on it. Something to keep the child interested as well.

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A word about your background. Investment banking to creating

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watches for kids. Join the dots for us. OK, so I used to work in foreign

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exchange sales. I left the business to have children. And then yeah,

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that was it. That light bulb moment came when I took my kids to the

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farm. Have you ever looked back? No, I love what I'm doing. You look

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after the children and try and run this company at the same time? I

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have an amazing childminder, but yes, it is a juggle every day and I

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don't have much sleep. But, it's amazing and exciting and I love

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every single minute of it. You're wide awake on this show. Thank you

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for coming in. Interesting. Thank you.

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Here is a reminder of how to get in touch.

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We want to hear from you too. Get involved on the BBC Business Live

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Today, your comments on the smart watch for tracking kids. A viewer

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says, "Honestly, it sounds like a breaking of trustment don't spy on

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your kids when they say they can go somewhere without you." I love

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Annie, "Just give your kid the watch, it can set an alarm for

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bedtime so you don't need a baby-sitter." ." Tea being dinner,

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not a cup of tea for the childminder. If it is the north of

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England, it is tea. Tea is what? Tea is your evening meal. It's not

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something in here? No, that's a brew! OK. Just to be clear. It is a

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builder's. What's tea for you? It's a hot

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refreshing drink! Let's talk Wall Street Journal. Why are the gas

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prices changing and it is to do with computers? It is. It is to do with

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software that petrol stations and these big oil companies are using to

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make sure that they are constantly matching the demand this they are

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seeing on the fore courts with higher prices. And only cutting

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them, it seems, when demand is very, very low. Now, you normally see that

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with this higher level of competition, classical economics,

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would say that the prices will therefore have to fall, but

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actually, in the Netherlands, it's where most of this seems to have

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been trialled just outside of Rotterdam, we're seeing prices rise

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and people are paying eight cents more per gallon. Some allegations of

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collusion. They look at what everyone else is doing, they're

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charging higher and I'll put mine up? There is probably evidence of

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collusion in similar industries which are low margin, very, very

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high volume, but also, you know, things like groceries and food. The

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algorism story is something we talk about a lot in markets and

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algorisms, Emmanuel Macron win by French stocks, we are starting to

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see that in real life. So your job will be redundant soon? Yes, I'll go

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and sort out a smart watch company. The Independent has got a story that

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our economics editor has written about as well. This chap here,

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Matthew Taylor who is leading a review. This is to do with the rise

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of the gig economy and Uber and we are less fulfilled? Yes, whether you

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come home and that's your day done or whether you are having to do more

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and more hours to bring the cash in to pay the bills. Most of the

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western economies are still seeing that, unemployment is at 30 year

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lows, nearly 40 year lows here in the UK, but the level of pay that

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people are getting and obviously the level of GDP that you would assume

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with everyone in work for nine hours a day for example isn't actually

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coming through and whether we are starting to see these zer hour

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contracts, you look at places like JD Sports and whether we need to see

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a more political change for that moving forward. Jeremy, thank you

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very much. That's all from us today. Same time same place tomorrow. Yes,

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I will have my statistic ready. Good. I'll look out for it. See you

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soon.

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