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This is Business Live from BBC News with Alice Baxter and Rachel Horne.

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Greece gets more bailout money to stop it defaulting

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Live from London, that's our top story on Friday the 16th of June.

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There's still no clear agreement on debt relief for now.

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So is the Greek government right to call it light

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at the end of the tunnel? Also in the programme...

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After the biggest recall in the history of the car industry,

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could faulty airbag maker Takata be about to file for bankruptcy?

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We will keep across all market movements for you.

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European shares open on a positive note

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And we'll be getting the inside track on a tumultuous

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week for the UK's Brexit negotiations and look

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at where the new government goes from here with our Business Editor,

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Simon Jack. We usually ask you a twitter

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question, but today the founder of Amazon has one for you -

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what should he do with all his money?

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Jeff Bezos has posted a request for ideas from the public

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for philanthropy inspiration - what advice would you give?

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Good to have you with us on Business Live.

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We start in Greece, which has edged back from the brink of financial

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Late on Thursday - after months of wrangling -

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European finance ministers, together with the International

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Monetary Fund, finally agreed to give Athens its latest slice

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And there's a hint it could get some relief from its crippling

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Greece will finally get this - 8.5 billion euros -

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part of an 86 billion euro bailout plan agreed in 2015.

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It will come just in time, as Greece faces 7.3 billion

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euros of debt repayments, due next month, which it wouldn't

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Its total debt now stands at more than 337 billion euros.

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To put that in perspective, have a look at this.

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The red is Greece's debt level over the past decade.

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The grey is the size of the economy, everything the country produces.

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The debt is currently some 180% of GDP one of the highest

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levels in the world, and a number Athens

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That's why Greece has been insisting on debt relief, which may

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IMF boss Christine Lagarde says a write-off is the only way Greece

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will ever get back on its feet, and has been refusing to get

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German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble has been amongst those

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insisting the debt must eventually be repaid in full.

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The chairman of the Eurozone finance ministers' group is optimistic

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there could soon be an end in sight.

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Overall I think this is a major step forward,

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I commend the euro group institutions, the Greek authorities

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and foremost of course the Greek people for their intense

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We are now going into the last year of the financial support

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programme of Greece, we will prepare an exit strategy

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going forward to enable Greece to stand on his own feet again over

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Thanos Vamvakidis of Bank of America Merrill Lynch warns

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that the details of the deal are still vague.

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I think the agreement is a compromise, which is the best that

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we could have hoped for given all the constraints. But it is not the

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final solution. There is a broad understanding that debt relief could

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be required, but it is another kick of the can down the road. So you do

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not think we will see agreement for a haircut, for a chunk of debt to be

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written off? You think it is more extending the payments? This is

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exactly what they are discussing, depending on the physical

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performance and economic growth. They have to agreed to maturity

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extension to allow Greece to eventually repay this debt. We are

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talking about maturity extension for between Zoo Road to 15 years, this

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is the discussion. -- zero to 15 years. A lot of it depends on your

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long-term growth assumption, this will affect the numbers. What will

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be the assumption on the interest rate you will be paying on these

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loans also. This is what they are discussing, not a haircut. It still

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has to be approved by a number of European Parliaments? I don't expect

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any problems. They require the participation of the IMF. Some good

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news from the deal is that the IMF will participate with a so-called

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stand-by arrangement, which does not include any money before a final

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deal on the debt. Do you feel there has been softening of the stance

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towards Greece because of Brexit? Seeing the UK leaving has perhaps

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made your finance ministers think that we do not want another country

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to leave? Not really. I think, rightly so, they have kept these

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issues separate. If anything, I think the creditors were tough on

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Greece, who were to approve measures for the next five years and Quy on

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fiscal targets for the next few decades without actually getting a

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final answer on debt relief. This is completely separate. That was a

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representative from the bank of American Merrill Lynch.

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Let's take a look at some of the other stories making the news.

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Tesco, which is one of the world's biggest supermarket companies,

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appears to be cementing its recovery here in its home market

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of the UK after sales growth beat expectations.

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In the three months to the end of May -

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The firm will face shareholders later today,

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who are expected to query a pay deal awarded to the firm's

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The Chinese bike-sharing start up Mobike says it has raised

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$600 million to help fund its overseas expansion.

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Since its launch last year, the firm has rolled out

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its brightly coloured bikes in China and Singapore.

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It hopes to be in 200 cities by the end of the year.

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US authorities are moving to seize a Picasso painting,

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an apartment in Manhattan, and rights to a film as part

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The US alleges high-level Malaysian officials stole more

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than $4.5 billion from the country's economic development fund.

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The Japanese company behind the biggest recall in the history

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of the car industry appears to be on the verge of bankruptcy.

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About 100 million Takata airbags have been recalled

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Most major car-makers have used them at some point.

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Ruppert, tell us what is the latest? We have heard that shares have been

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suspended on the stock markets, could it be the end for the company?

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It certainly looks like the end for the company in its present form. It

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has been reported from several different sources that Takata will

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file for protective bankruptcy both here in Japan and in the United

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States sometime next week. That would pave the way for it to be

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taken over by an American company, Key Safety Systems,, the preferred

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bidder for Takata. This is the end of a very long-running saga dating

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back to 2008 when these records began because of faulty inflator is

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inside Takata made airbags. The recall has grown and grown and grown

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and, with it, potential liabilities for Takata have ballooned to an

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extraordinary extent, 100 million records, perhaps 8 billion US

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dollars worth of products that they will have to May, essentially, for

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free, which is driving the company into bankruptcy.

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Let's stay in the region where Asian stocks were mixed,

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with shares in Japan advancing, the Nikkei rose to a

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We also saw the yen remain near a two-week low

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against the dollar after the Bank of Japan left monetary policy

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unchanged as expected even as the Federal Reserve

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And that more hawkish tone meant we saw treasuries fall and gold

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So overall a steady performance in Asia on Friday -

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stocks seemingly taking the resumption of the US tech rout

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overnight in their stride Meanwhile here in Europe shares open

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on a positive note following Thursday's losses.

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The FTSE 100 in London is currently up to 0.36%.

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And Michelle Fleury has the details about what's ahead

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President Trump is expected to announce a shift in US policy

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towards Cuba, possibly as soon as this Friday. Watch out for curves on

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American companies doing business with the Cuban military -- watch out

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for curbs. And also tighter rules on travel to the island. It will be

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interesting to see how US businesses react. Since Obama loosened the

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embargo on Cuba, several US airlines have daily flights there. Will this

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dampened demand? The CEO of the Marriot hotel group has said it

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would be exceedingly disappointing to see progress made in the last two

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years between the US and Cuba halted and reversed. Meanwhile US

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agricultural businesses may be disappointed as they had hoped to

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export more American agricultural and food products to the country. On

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the economic front, watch out for the latest survey on consumer

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sentiment from the University of Michigan and housing starts from the

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month of May. Joining us is Jane Foley, senior

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currency strategist at Rabobank. Thank you for coming in. We will

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start with interest rates, lots of big decisions this week. Let's look

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at the UK. It has held them, but three members of the eight voted to

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increase? They did. That is interesting given the economic data

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we have had recently? It was a surprise for the market. Looking at

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what the market is implying, yesterday the market had suggested

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that the Bank of England would not hike interest rates to perhaps 2019.

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So to suddenly have three committee members voting for an interest rate

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hike took the market by surprise. My view, and I am an effect strategist,

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is that this might be about the pound. Looking at what the Bank of

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England has said for a few months, the inflation that has been coming

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through in the UK economy, which is very high, 2.9% each year, has been

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because of the weakness of sterling, which fell quite dramatically on the

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back of the referendum result last June. And because sterling has been

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weak, prices of goods such as food and energy, almost anything to

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nominated in another currency, has been going up and driving our

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inflation. The bank shot across the bows, which should mean that if the

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market is beginning to think the bank could hike interest rates,

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there might be less selling pressure.

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Given those inflationary pressures you describe, if you look into your

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crystal ball, what do you see happening with regards to rates? One

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of the most hawkish members of these eight people that decide whether or

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not the bank will raise rates, Kristin Forbes, is due to leave

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soon, she has been pushing bits for a while? She is due to leave at the

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end of the month and there will be two seats left on the committee. We

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don't know who will take them and whether they will be biased towards

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making change, or increasing rates. Why the market thinks the banks will

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not hike interest rates for a few years is because of the type of

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inflation we have seen. As I have described, it is not the sort of

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inflation that is because we are all rich and demanding more, that is the

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sort of inflation we would like. Unfortunately wage inflation is very

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low, wages are rising a lot less than inflation, meaning we are

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poorer. We have seen very poor results in retail sales, meaning

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economic growth will be great as a consequence. Inflation we have seen

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is acting in the same way as a tack site. If you saw an interest rate

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hike it would make is even pleura. ... Acting in the same way as a tax

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hike. We do not think they will hike but they want to stabilise the plan.

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In the US, interest rates increased as expected but it still surprise

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the markets? Yes, the US central bank has adjusted for a while they

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would hike interest rates in June, and they did, but similar to the UK,

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wage inflation is relatively low. Again, meaning that demand type of

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inflation is not necessarily there, it is very moderate. What the market

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thought the Federal Reserve would do is hike interest rates because they

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said they would but then maybe signal they would do less further

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out, but they did not, they set out from the same area as before and

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said we will hike interest rates again, probably at the end of this

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year and maybe three times next year. The market was surprised by

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that. Jane, you will take us through

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papers in a little while. Thank you, Jane.

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We'll get the Inside Track on the big business

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stories of the week - inlcuding the UK's Brexit plan -

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You're with Business Live from BBC News.

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In an effort to help businesses grow, HSBC has today launched

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a ?10 billion fund to support small and medium sized businesses

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Joining us from the London Stock Exchange

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is Ian Stuart, Chief Executive of HSBC UK.

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Many thanks for joining us. Tog us through the aim of this? This is the

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fourth fund that we have launched. ?10 million which we hope SMEs will

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take advantage of. It is not just for HSBC customers. It is for all

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small and medium-sized businesses, spread regionally. For every corner

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of the UK there is a fund to access. We genuinely hope it will give

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businesses the oxygen to grow and hopefully do more overseas with

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export as well. This is a good time for businesses to borrow money when

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interest rates are low. But we were just speaking to Jane a moment ago

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about Bank of England committee members possibly trying to move

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towards an interest rate hike at some point in the near future. Might

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that mean less demand for these loans? I just caught the end of that

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interview. What was coming across is, is there a genuine interest for

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interest rate rises now? There will be very little chance of a rate

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increase this year. I think it is still a great time to be borrowing

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money. I think money is as cheap as it ever has been. We help small

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businesses will take advantage of it and keep pushing forward and help

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the UK economy. No doubt SMEs are the backbone of the UK economy. This

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is really important to support them through what is unchartered waters

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over the coming weeks and months. You talk about unchartered waters.

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In this post Brexit environment, do small and medium-sized businesses

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need extra handholding? We are here to help take advantage of the

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opportunities. A lot of customers talking about exporting, who maybe

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have not exported in the past. We understand that taking that first

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step is a big step. Our job is to try to help customers take advantage

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of some of the markets, especially outside the EU, where there are

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genuine opportunities. Many thanks, Iain Stewart.

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You're watching Business Live - our top story...

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Finance ministers from the eurozone and the IMF had a -- have agreed to

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give Greece another multibillion-dollar bailout. There

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was no clear answer about whether Athens will get debt relief.

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A quick look at how markets are faring...

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They have been open for a fair while. In Europe, we can see they

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are closing the week on a positive note after the losses we saw on

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Thursday. The FTSE 100 index in London still up 0.34%. That follows

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the positive trend in Asia overnight.

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And now let's get the inside track on all the big business

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It was the first week of Britian's new government and there have been

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several developments about the impact of the UK's

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And on the other side of the Atlantic the US

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Federal Reserve increased the cost of borrowing.

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Our business editor Simon Jack is here to pick over it all.

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Morning. Let's start with the UK and Brexit. We were expecting to hear

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Philip Hammond speaking last night in the Mansion house but that was

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cancelled because of the dreadful tower fire in London. What were we

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expecting to hear from him? It is a week since the UK election. That

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election was called so that the Prime Minister Theresa May could get

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a mandate, strengthen your position, to deliver the kind of Brexit she

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had promised. We are out of the single market, the Customs Union, no

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deal is better than a bad deal, that is what she said. She fell short of

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a majority and has to go into talks with the DUP, the Northern Irish

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party, to try to get a majority. Are we going to get that kind of

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approach now when the Brexit negotiations start on Monday? In a

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way it was a shame we didn't hear from Philip Hammond. Of course, we

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completely understand why he cancelled it. He is thought to

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favour a softer, if you like, soft and hard, not useful but we

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understand what they mean, he favours a more conciliatory approach

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to Europe, a more collaborative approach, and possibly looking at

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things like reopening questions, is there a way we can stay in the

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Customs Union? That will be interesting because the Northern

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Ireland party, that border would cause a lot of friction going to and

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from macro if you had to open every Vaniteuk customs checks. That would

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be a big problem. We are trying to figure out what kind of approach we

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are going to get from this government. Negotiations start on

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Monday. It is not a brilliant position to start from. We don't

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know what our starting position is and what our objectives are. The

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clock is ticking to that is the thing. You trigger Article 50, then

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call an election which you think you're going to win, and is a bit

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like going to the front door, ring the buzzer and runaway! Brussels are

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waiting for us to come back around the corner. One of the areas of the

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economy there are questions over is euro clearing. What is it and why is

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it so important? This is one of the bits of plumbing of the financial

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system. Buyers and sellers by derivatives. Financial insurance. It

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is a massive business. There is 900 billion euros worth trading day.

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Some people say it supports up to 85,000 jobs directly and indirectly.

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The Europeans, the European Union, have always wanted this huge

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business the nominated in Europe to be done inside Europe. This is too

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big an industry for us. It is too big for us to be conducted outside

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the EU bloc, they said. If they decide the matter trading is

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systemically important, which it is, they either want direct oversight of

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it, have their monitors monitoring it, or they will force it back into

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the European Union. That is what they came to have a look at. None of

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the customers that use this clearing house want this to happen. You get a

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big economy of scale if you have this deep pool of trading. You have

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to put up less margin. A bit in the kitty of something goes wrong. The

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bigger the pool, the less margin as a percentage of the business you do.

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They say it with drive up costs. It is one of the big titans of city

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trading, Sir Michael Spencer, he said it was a political land grab,

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dressed up as concerns about financial stability. Not holding

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back at all. Bear in mind of course that this also happens in New York.

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A lot of people think of the EU and the UK start taking lumps out of

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each other, it would be mutually destructive and many big traders

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will just move to New York. That doesn't sound good. We will

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leave it there. Simon Jack, thank you.

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The Duke of York has told the BBC that UK businesses face several

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years of uncertainty and upheaval due to Brexit.

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But Prince Andrew, a former UK trade on by, said businesses should make

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the most of new international opportunities. The Prince has been

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in Singapore to attend a conference. He was also hosting pitch the

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Palace, a programme he started to support. Entrepreneurs from the UK

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and all around the world. We have been concentrating on 27

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countries. If you take that as an internal market, there is an

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external market that is a lot bigger. And many businesses haven't

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got over that garden fence, to some extent. And in my experience

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recently, businesses that look over the garden fence have gone, the

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grass is not quite as dark and unforgiving as you might expect, and

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actually getting over the fence, there might be some fresh grass out

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there. What other business

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stories has the media been Jane has returned. At the top of the

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programme we usually give out our Twitter question. This time we give

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you Jeff Bezos's Twitter question. 6 billion short of being the world's

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richest man. He has tweeted asking people what he should do in terms of

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philanthropy. What Tweets have we got? We have had

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a a few. Jeff Bezos seven best in independent film-making. The studios

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are churning out cartoons and creativity is indy. Another one

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here, give it to the people of Grenfell Tower and help them rebuild

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their lives. A reference to that tower in west London that burnt

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down. In respect of that last response,

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that rings a tune with what Jeff Bezos himself has said. He is

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looking in the longer term. What he indicated is in respect of

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philanthropy, you would perhaps like to look at the urgency. When Picchu

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-- people really urgently need help. That rings true with the last tweet.

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When there are disasters, people want to respond immediately. That is

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when they will. It is having the organisation and structure in place

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to ensure donations go to the right place and I used best? It is

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interesting. This newspaper article says he is less than 6 billion away

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from being the world's richest man. Just a mere 6 billion! There is a

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lot of pressure within America for a very rich people to setup bodies, to

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read a script -- to redistribute their wealth. Bill Gates, Warren

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Buffet, the top five billionaires, giving away a lot of their money.

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If he is going to give away his money, you don't want him to give it

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to bitcoin, do you?! Bitcoin has had a bad week. The worst week since

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January 20 15. There are a number of factors. I'm sure your viewers are

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aware that this has been a very difficult week for a technological

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stocks. That has probably contributed to some of the pressure

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on here Macron bitcoin as well. Other factors, a bill through

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parliament saying they need more regulation. That could take away

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some of the advantages will stop I'm going to have to pause that and what

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it back in slow motion. Thank you. That is it.

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Have a great weekend.

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