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This is Business Live from BBC News with Alice Baxter and Ben Bland.

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that's the message from the EU and Japan as they close

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Live from London, that's our top story on Thursday 6th July.

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The deal's on - Japan and the EU will today sign a free trade deal

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Could this be the beginning of a new economic power couple?

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Also in the programme, slicing off a thinner profit -

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the owner of Pizza Hut, KFC, and Taco Bell in China

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posts lacklustre results in the first quarter.

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And we have the latest from the markets and European

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have opened steady after a fairly downbeat session in Asia.

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And we'll be getting the inside track on Alipay,

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the Chinese digital payment giant owned by ecommerce giant Alibaba.

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And as Jay-Z's digital-only album goes platinum in under

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a week we want to know, what was the last physical

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In a few hours' time, the EU and Japan will sign off on a major

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trade deal in Brussels - covering everything

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It comes despite doubts around the world about free trade deals

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and the rise of trade protectionism in the US under the

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Japan and the EU account for about a third of global GDP -

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Both sides believe their trade relationship has room

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EU officials say the deal will boost the EU economy by 0.8% and Japan's

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Among the big winners, the car industry.

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The EU will scrap a 10% duty on Japanese car imports,

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while Japan will remove barriers to entry for European automakers.

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The deal's also very symbolic, partly because of Brexit -

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European leaders want to reinforce the value of the EU

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Meanwhile, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe of Japan has been looking for a big

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win on the global stage after President Trump

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effectively torpedoed the Trans Pacific Partnership

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Marina Petroleka is head of industry research at BMI Research,

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So we were hearing some of the numbers involved. Given that the

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trade between the EU and Japan already accounts for so much, the

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question is, why have they not done a free-trade deal like this before?

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All these free trade deals are very comprehensive. They have had 18

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rounds of negotiations just to get to the point of today worry have

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high-level political endorsement of the deal. So they do take a long

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time. We have just talked about or toes and agriculture, but there is a

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plethora of smaller issues and industries, data protection,

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everything, the entire spectrum that has to be negotiated. It has taken

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years to get here. Your take on it is one of the big winners will be

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the pharmaceutical industry? In our view, a lot of the coverage of this

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has focused on agriculture and autos because they were the two bargaining

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chips. But if you look at the numbers, the European pharma

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industry will be a major winner because it will open to them the

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Japanese pharmaceutical markets, where you have a major population

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with a high income. European pharmaceutical markets love that

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sort of profile for their big blockbuster drugs. So we anticipate

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there will be a big increase of the European pharmaceutical industry in

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Japan as a result. Is this a deal that benefits both sides equally?

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Presumably yes. After 18 rounds of talks, you would think you have a

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balanced mix. For the EU, the big win is pharma. In our opinion, it

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will also be the agriculture sector. It is pretty much one-way trade of

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EU exports to Japan. On the Japanese side, it is the car-makers that will

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benefit by losing the 10% import tariff, as well as nontariff

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barriers for auto parts and other parts of the supply chain. Thank

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you. Let's take a look at some of

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the other stories making the news... British Airways cabin crew

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are to stage a further two weeks of strikes,

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in a long running dispute standing staff, will walk out for 14

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days on 19th July in a strike The strike will begin

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three days after the end Rapper Jay-Z's digital-only

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album 4:44 has gone platinum within five days -

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despite limits on who The music was only available

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on Tidal, the star's own streaming service,

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and to customers of US The Recording Industry Association

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of America platinum certification, which requires more than 1 million

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sales, is rare for Last year, KFC and Pizza Hut's US

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owners Yum Brands spun off the Chinese business

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into a separate company. In the last few hours,

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it's reported results Have the Chinese developed

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a taste for pizza? No, the world's second-largest

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economy prefers what Colonel Sanders has to offer over pizza. Yum Brands

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had boosted sales which was driven up by 4% of the KFC chain. But Pizza

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Hut sales were flat. Yum Brands has been looking to pump up sales in

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China because of the market, which has started to slow since 2012. It

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was hit by safety scares, changing consumer tastes and a wider economic

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slowdown. The food franchise had hoped to heat up sales by

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simplifying Pizza Hut's menu and making a push on mobile payment and

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delivery. It seems that it recently bought a controlling stake in the

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local food delivery service. The disappointing pizza numbers pushed

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Yum's than a stock price is lower but so far this year, Yum's China

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shares are up nearly 54%. Most Asian stock markets fell on Thursday after

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minutes from the Federal Reserve's class meeting showed a lack of

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consensus on the future pace of US interest rate increases. Oil prices

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also inched higher following a steep decline yesterday. Tokyo stocks are

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also falling, with banks leading the decline following the release of

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those fed minutes. Also a stronger yen. Trading in Asia generally has

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been buffeted this week by tensions on the Korean peninsula.

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Markets elsewhere are waiting for the release of some US Jobs

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for June, which due on Friday - in the hope that will provide some

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So here in Europe, markets have opened steady.

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And Michelle Fleury has the details about what's ahead

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Trade figures are released this Thursday.

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The latest numbers from the Commerce Department are likely

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to show that America's trade deficit shrank slightly, to 46.2 billion

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The billionaire investor picked by Donald Trump to run

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the Commerce Department is, shall we say, obsessed

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In the past, he's urged manufacturers, including

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Japanese car-maker Toyota, to build more plants in the US

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as part of efforts to reduce the US trade deficit

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Toyota's new headquarters in Plano, Texas opened

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The Japanese car-maker is also to invest $10 billion over

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It's worth noting that's the same as the last five years.

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And ahead of Friday's monthly jobs report,

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data on private sector employment will be released.

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Joining us is James Quinn, Group business editor

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So, interesting moves on Tesla shares? Tesla shares have fallen 15%

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since late June, when they hit those heights. Lots of commentary around

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the market values of the brands Tesla was working with before. Volvo

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are going all electric from 2019. As opposed to an internal engine. What

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does this mean for the future of electric cars per se? It was just

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the domain of Hazlitt for so long, and now there is lots of

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competition. That's right, Elon Musk was a soothsayer in that respect,

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investing a lot of money into the business. Tesla only delivered

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76,000 cars last year. Volvo delivered over half a million cars.

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So clearly, the big boys are getting involved in this and that takes the

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sheen off Tesla's approach somewhat. Goldman are downgrading their price

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on Tesla yesterday. That is meaningless given that Tesla's share

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price last night was still $327. Looking at market around the world,

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investors seem to be waiting for this data from the US on jobs which

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are due out on Friday. But also those mixed messages from the Fed

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about the pace of future rate rises and when they draw down the balance

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sheet of the debts they hold? That's right, questions over tapering and

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whether policy should get looser and interest rates will go up further

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later in the year. Christine Lagarde, the boss of the

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International Monetary Fund, one of the big financial organisations

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around the world, warned yesterday ahead of the G20, which starts

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today, that the Brits but we have seen will not continue to boost US

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job figures, which were strong in the start of this year. Will they

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continue, given that President Trump has something to crow about when all

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else has been going badly? The US Labour market is still growing

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strongly. Some would say that was faxed to President Obama and nothing

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to do with President Trump's rain so far. Some might say! We will take

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you through the papers later. We'll be getting the inside

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track on the Chinese You're with Business

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Live from BBC News. A lot of businesses are worried

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about where the entrepreneurs Ben Thompson is with a group

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of young people who might be able Welcome to the South Bank. We are

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here in central London. 20,000 students have taken part in the

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Young enterprise scheme, whittled down to just 14 finalists. I am with

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some of them this morning. Dean, you have been through the whole process.

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What is it you do? Our product is a simple but effective device. It

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transforms any shoe into a slip on. How did you come up with this idea?

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Our schoolteacher's son got trapped on an escalator. And what have you

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learned from this? Running your own business is harder than it might

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look. Definitely. My biggest lesson is the importance of customers.

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Treat them with respect. If you do, they will return it to you. Good

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luck. I know you have a presentation later. Then the winner will be

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announced tonight. Ben, you are veteran of this process. You know

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when own firm. What is the difference between the theory and

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the reality of doing it here and in the real world? You can easily sit

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around thinking you will sell millions of these, but the

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practicality is knowing the things you have to do day in, day out. You

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can look at the textbook, but it is about actually doing it. This adds

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the experience of doing it. You will be the master of ceremonies later.

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What are you looking for? We are looking for the spark. These guys

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are very early days. They have started to make a profit. We are

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looking for the companies that want to have an edge over people and look

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at the longer term. It has struck me how many businesses involved

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technology. It is really changing how businesses operate. Technology

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is now a massive thing. Everybody here grew up with it. So now people

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are trying to utilise it in their business. There are challenges with

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security and data, but it is also exciting because the opportunities

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are endless. Best of luck. So as you can see, I have been joined by some

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of the finalists. A busy day ahead for them. It is only fair that I let

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them have the last say. Good luck, guys. See you soon. Bye-bye.

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You are watching business life. The European Union and Japan are gearing

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up to announce a landmark free trade deal. The two regions have indicated

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a commitment to open trade, in contrast to a protectionist measure

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taken by President Trump. Let's bring you a quick recap on how the

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markets are doing. In Europe, following a downbeat session over in

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Asia, the European markets are also down. In London, it is flat.

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And now let's get the inside track on online payments.

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Alipay is the world's biggest third party on line

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It was originally part of the Alibaba stable,

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and allows third party payments for millions of Chinese consumers.

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It's the most popular payment app in China -

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and its trying to push out into the rest of the world

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Joining us now is Rita Liu, Europe Middle East and Africa

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Many thanks for joining us in the studio. Good morning. I was just

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going to ask you about the genesis of Alipay. It is somewhat

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controversial, it was spun off from Alibaba in 2014. At the time, there

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was a big uproar from Yahoo, a major shareholder in Alibaba? Yes, that is

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what happened. It was driven by the regulation requirement in China,

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third-party payment providers. Just looking at where your focus is now,

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we are talking about the expansion to new markets. You are still only

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targeting Chinese consumers who are travelling abroad. Why not target

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consumers from wherever they come from? Actually, I get that question

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every day. At the moment, in this region of Europe, we are focusing on

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the cross-border opportunities. You know, bringing 450 million users

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from China to spend in Europe and help them have the same experience

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they have in China when they are travelling in Europe. But we are

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trying to expand our user base from China to the rest of the world. Now,

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the focus is now more on Asia. As you know, we made several

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investments into several countries in Asia last year. That is part of

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our effort to expand our user base by empowering our partners in those

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markets without technology and know-how, building in China and

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hopefully growing another Alipay in that market. Given the expansion

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hopes and ambitions you have, I'm interested to know what you make of

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Donald Trump's approach, the more protectionist approach and some of

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the Commons that he has made, particularly about China? Actually,

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you know, the meeting with him several months ago, Alibaba

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promising 1 million job opportunities in the US. We were

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just in Detroit last week, promoting our services to the SMEs in the US,

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helping them to engage better with rising costs in China. I think that

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is our answer to that. We definitely try to... We definitely hope that

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the cross-border trade in China and the US will prosper. You know, in

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years to come? Do you feel that you need to explain your strategy to the

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US consumer in any way? Well, it's always complicated to explain

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Alipay. We do so many things in China. Again, our vision is to drive

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financial inclusion by technology. The first stuff we are taking in

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Europe is to service and merchants here. It is the best way to educate

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the market for Alipay is really about. It is not just a payment

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option, it is a login platform for the merchants. It takes time to

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educate the market, but we are making efforts. One thing that

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people who are watching, not just Alipay, but the parent company, they

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will be wanting to know why the delay over the listing? It has been

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talked about, much hyped, but it now seems to be pushed back to... We

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don't know when? It was meant to be the biggest of 2017, wasn't it?

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Well, I wish I knew more details. It is not our priority now. It is to

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solve customer issues and expand to more markets. It is not our

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priority. We are making lots of progress in various markets around

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the world and that is our priority. It is not to do with needing

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regulatory approval or approval from Beijing to take the next step? Not

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that I know of. We will continue to watch with interest. It has been

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much talked about and much hyped. I am sure we will be covering this

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again in future. Thank you for coming in.

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In a moment we'll take a look through the Business Pages but first

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Business Live, on TV and online, whenever you need to know. Let's

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look at some of the stories the papers have been looking at. We are

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going to start with the China morning Post. They say that Richard

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Branson's feeling is that he might cut his investment the UK if Brexit

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goes ahead, which we assume it will, because he thinks the country is

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harming itself and it doesn't make sense for him to put money into it?

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That is what he said on a flight from Hong Kong to Melbourne, Virgin

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Australia launching flights today. He was an ardent Remainer, you might

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say that he would say that. What is interesting in the language he uses

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is that in the last couple of days, business people have returned to

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this debate ahead of the meeting tomorrow, where the Chancellor,

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Philip Hammond, and other ministers will meet business leaders en masse

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for the first time since last year's Brexit rope. There seems to be a

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softening on the Government's stands, a willingness to discuss.

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The question over whether or not he will cut investment seemed wide of

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the mark. But these comments, from somebody that is a British

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businessman, will attract a lot of criticism from some quarters. I'm

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thinking the readers of your paper? That's right, the suggestion he will

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cut services out of Heathrow, Virgin Atlantic, they have been increasing

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services recently and launched flights to Seattle from Manchester,

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to Chicago and other places. Clearly, the owner of Virgin Trains,

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lots of investment in health care, I think it is talk for a foreign

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audience. He made the comment on a flight from Hong Kong to Melbourne,

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maybe he would not make those two others. Maybe he would.

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Let's move to the next story. I want to ask you a couple of questions

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that we posed to viewers this morning in light of the

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record-setting sales set by Jay-Z for the release of his latest album.

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We asked, what was the last physical record that they bought? I had a

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number of responses, Felicity said Purple Rain from Prints. Carolyn

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says Strips by Christina Aguilera. A reissue of Abbey Road. Another says

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They Might Be Giants. Mark says it must be 20 years since I bought an

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LP. Calling it an LP as well? Oh, dear. What was the last one you

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bought? In terms of an actual record, I think there was only ever

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one, when I was very young, Billy Jones's Uptown Girl. Then straight

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onto tapes and then CD's. I can't even think. I'm too embarrassed to

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admit! I would lose credibility. We have all moved on, as has

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technology. That brings me nicely into the next story from the

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Financial Times. Talking about drones. Zeroing in on increasing

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numbers of commercial opportunities. Is there anywhere now that they are

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not going? Everybody is trying to test the abilities of drones to see

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how they can be used in business, commerce, to reduce the cost of

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sales. Amazon is a great example of a company testing ground delivery.

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In Cambridge, they have a license to see whether they could deliver

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parcels. It wouldn't work in built up an urban areas, but in suburban

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areas coming to back gardens, that could be one possibility. I think

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the possibilities are endless. The practicalities are somewhat

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different. Its safety, isn't it? These are fairly heavy things,

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flying above peoples heads. There was a risk involved. That's right,

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go pro launched a probe with a camera attached and it was falling

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off, so they had to recall them. That is not something any company

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wants to be involved in. Safety issues and also the impact with

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aviation. You don't want to be a drone operator that crushes your

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drone into a helicopter or plane. We are at risk of droning on. Not you!

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That all we got time for. We will see you tomorrow. Thanks for

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watching.

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