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This is Business Live from BBC News with Ben Thompson and Sally Bundock.

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Prosecutors in South Korea demand a twelve-year prison sentence

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That is our top story, live from London.

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Before his arrest, Jay Y Lee was gearing up to take over Samsung.

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He's now accused of bribing the country's former

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President and could face more than a decade in jail.

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Also in the programme, turning off the taps with 50

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dollar oil the new normal, are we in line for another

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Opec meets today. Asian markets are rising strongly off the back of that

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in good jobs News from the US. This is what Europe is doing in the first

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half hour of trading. We speak to the head of one

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of the world's oldest private exploration firms about keeping

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the lights on around the globe. And as New York based

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company WeWork annoucne a $500m expansion in Asia -

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let us know what do you love They very warm welcome. A lot to get

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through, including things you like or maybe do not like about the state

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of your office with the news that WeWork is expanding.

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Prosecutors in South Korea are demanding a twelve-year prison

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sentence for the heir to the Samsung business empire.

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Samsung covers all sorts of businesses, a conglomerate made up

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of different entities and is caught in the midst of a huge corruption

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allegation. the prosecution said

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he was the ultimate The corruption scandal brought down

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the country's former President. All sorts of details have emerged as

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part of the trial. Sarah Toms is in Singapore

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with the latest. Good to see you. The prosecutors

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deliberated most of today and came up with this 12 year prison

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sentence. Tell us more. South Korean

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prosecutors have been wrapping up closing arguments in a lengthy

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trial. This is in the trial of Samsun Electronics and prosecutors

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seek a 12 year jail term for the acting head, Jay Y Lee. He and other

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Samsung officials have been charged with offering more than $38 million

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to the President and her friend in exchange for support of a merger

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between two Samsung subsidiaries. The president was removed from

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office this year and is herself on trial. Mr Jay Y Lee denied bribery

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and embezzlement charges. The court ruling is not expected until late

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August. Which is when his arrest warrant is finished. The trial,

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above all, has put the issue of family control and big business

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under the spotlight. South Korea's newly elected president promises to

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bring in measures that could weaken their power. That is the big

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question in terms of how this will play out on whether we will see Jay

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Y Lee behind bars or not. Previously in years gone by, those

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running Samsun, they have been charged with various elements and

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were pardoned in the past and that is kind of how it used to roll.

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That is right. It is a surprise it is 12 years. From what I understood,

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they were thinking it would be more like five years, depending on how

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many charges. It just shows that the government means business over this.

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The big companies with so much power. They want to sort of stop

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this from happening, a repeat of this scandal, which basically has

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been on the headlines of every country in the world. Sarah, thank

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you. So much to discuss as far as that story is concerned. South

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Korea's society, and the relationship with government.

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Another story we are watching. Oil prices continuing to fall and Opec

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is meeting. For most of us a lower oil

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price is a good thing. But for the countries that sell oil

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lower prices is a real headache. What can Opec do, the 14 leading

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producers? They have been trying to push up prices.

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Today and tomorrow they're meeting in Abu Dhabi.

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Amrita Sen is chief oil analyst at the independent research

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We have talked about this a lot, can they raise prices, Opec, and they

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hope to? I think the meeting is more about compliance, which has been

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slipping and some of the usual offenders, Iraq... When you talk

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about compliance is whether countries are meeting the production

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levels. Everybody talks about Iraq not complying and wanting to raise

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production, some of the offenders on the list are like UAE, they have

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always been good about meeting targets. I think that is why Opec

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wants to say, let's come back together and see what we can do. If

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you do not comply, what are the consequences? That is the problem,

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there is not something that will say you will be kicked out of Opec,

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these are the costs, which is why Opec is tricky. If you can't, I

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always have an incentive to not do as much is required because I hope

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prices will go up because of the result of your clock. The price of

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oil is not going up. I got back from Houston last week and shale is

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definitely growing will grow strongly but I do not think shale is

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growing as much as more people feared. One of the things that came

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out was the gas to oil ratio is rising a lot. For every well you

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complete you are getting more gas now than oil. Some of that fear will

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probably subside. Right now, demand is phenomenal at these prices and

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one of the things you are seeing is it is a tighter market and the

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curves are flattening. It didn't is falling at a rate of 1 million

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barrels per day so it is happening. -- inventory is. That is why they

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cannot catch up. And the disparity between the watch country needs what

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prices to do with budget, where they will balance the budget. The list is

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long and in Venezuela, they need $120. Saudi Arabia probably find

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that 60s and 70s. We probably should not have double standards because in

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the west we do not balance our budget, so why should they have to

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balance the budget? What is important they are running through

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the foreign currency reserves which they need to replenish. They are

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packed to the dollar and need revenues. They will be fine, some of

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the GCC countries, not Venezuela and Iraq. Thanks for your perspective.

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Don't hold your breath for any big announcements from Opec but if there

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are, we will let you know. We have the debate on prices but

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they wanted as high as possible, so it makes them the most money.

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Keep it simple with Ben Thompson! Let's take a look at some of

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the other stories making the news: One of the world's largest providers

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of shared working space, WeWork, says it will invest $500m to expand

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in Southeast Asia and South Korea. The New York based firm is one

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of a growing number that provide flexible working spaces and offices

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used by freelancers, That is the Twitter question, get in

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touch about your work environment. Staff at Google have been caught up

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in a row about the company's gender It started when a male software

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engineer wrote that the firm needs to "stop assuming that

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gender gaps imply sexism". Many of his colleagues have been

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critical of the statement Google's head of diversity said

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diversity and inclusion are very South Korea says North Korea has

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rejected an offer to talk - to calm tensions over

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its nuclear programme. This weekend, the UN

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Security Council passed a resolution banning North Korean exports

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and limiting investments Within the last hour,

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North Korea has criticised the blockade and vowed to take

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what it calls "righteous action". Shares in Asia were higher

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at the start of the week - after those strong jobs numbers

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in the US. That's provided some relief

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for investors over the outlook Well, the dollar jumped to a one

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year high against the yen, that, In Europe it's a quiet day

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for corporate earnings and economic data -

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with holidays across the continent. If you're not on holiday we'll talk

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more about all you need to know - in a moment, but first

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Samira Hussain has the details Earnings continue this week

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with media companies like Time, That's the parent company

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to the social media app, Snapchat Now since the company went public

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in March of this year, its share price has hit some

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all time lows. Investors are worried

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about the company's ability to continue to grow its user base

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and still make money. But first, on Monday,

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the world's biggest hotel chain, It seems more travel

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is happening in the US, its biggest market,

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and that will help lift the Marriott, like its hotel industry

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peers, is really benefiting from an improved business sentiment

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following Donald Trump's election Joining us is Jessica

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Ground from Schroders. Give us your take on this week, a

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funny time of year and yet there seems to be quite a bit going on

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with markets bubbling up. Valuations are high. The data is showing a

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sustained although not dramatic global economic recovery. Volatility

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is low. We know when we look at past summers when everything like this

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looks fantastic, things can come to disrupt. People are feeling more

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relaxed. It does not mean you cannot have strange events. What could

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disrupt? Geopolitical is probably the one most likely. We have been

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talking about tensions with North Korea. The Middle East. Opec and all

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prices will be another area to watch. Both Brexit and the Trump.

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People have learned to live with uncertainty on that. We are at the

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point where markets are pumped up, will they stay there until people

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come back in September? What we have heard is a narrow leadership of the

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market with tech companies on stretched valuations. Other parts of

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the market look less stretch. The thing that has happened this summer

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is it feels like rate rises are kicked into the long grass, further

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into the future, and that is important because with interest

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rates low, it gives room for equity markets to move up high. I would not

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say everybody will come back in September and panic, but I think

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companies with high valuations will have to justify them with great.

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Lovely to see you. Still lots more to come.

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We take a look at the cost of delivery around the world,

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starting in Turkey which has the highest rate of

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You're with Business Live from BBC News.

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Britons could obtain more control over what happens to personal

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information under new government proposals later today.

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People will be able to ask for personal data, or information

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posted when they were children, to be deleted.

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Theo Leggett is in our Business newsroom.

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This is fascinating, the idea that adults could complain about what was

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posted when they were children. It shows the internet age coming of

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age. Because the data protection rules have not kept up with

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development of technology. This bill is based on the EU's data protection

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regulations that comes into force next year and coming into force

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quickly and the UK bill will make sure the same rules stay in place

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after we leave the EU probably in 2019. The point is, the data

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protection regulations at the moment were designed in the days before a

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company could gain information on who you are, where you live, what

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shopping you like, what places you visit, because you carry a mobile

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phone and they can store information and use it for marketing purposes.

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These proposals are designed to give people a certain amount of control

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back, such as people who posted things as children will be able to

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ask for that to be deleted and will have to give explicit consent to

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giving away information. At the moment it is often a tick box at the

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foot of a website or pages of terms and conditions and people do not

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really know what they are signing up to and the idea with this is people

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will have to give clear consent to data being used and people

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collecting it will have to say why they are collecting it. Our company

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is prepared? Some of them are, business groups say companies are

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starting to get used to the idea but many are not used to it and since

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the first stage, the EU regulation comes into force next year, they

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will have to hurry up. Because this regulation gives the Information

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Commissioner's office figure teeth, and they will be able to fine up to

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?20 million or 4% of a company's turnover, which ever is the greatest

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and at the moment the biggest fine is ?500,000. It is a big change and

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penalties are harsh. A story about pre-payment energy

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price cap will be tightened according to Ofgem. All the details

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are on the Business Live page. Our top story: Posecutors

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in South Korea are demanding a 12 year prison

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sentence for the heir to the Samsung business empire,

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Lee Jae-yong. This case has been rumbling for a

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long time, but 12 years is what the prosecution are calling for.

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A quick look at how markets are faring.

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In Europe we have been going for 15 minutes. Higher. Perhaps markets

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taking a breather following a couple of weeks of so much news in terms of

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earnings news from companies all over the world. So, a chance to just

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take stock now. The markets are having their summer

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holidays, I think, not us, we're still here.

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Its highs and its lows, but what about gas?

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Well, one of the world's oldest private gas and oil exploration

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firms in the Middle East is Crescent Petroleum.

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It was set-up in 1971 in the United Arab Emirates.

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While its first wells were for oil, it was an early adopter of natural

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gas, signing its first gas supply contract in 1985.

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Its total output now exceeds 125,000 barrels of oil equivalent per day

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and it's looking to expand into both North Africa and Iraq.

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Its gas deliveries help to provide electricity

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for four million people in northern Iraq.

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Majid Jafar is the Chief Executive of Crescent Petroleum,

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Welcome to Business Live. Nice to see you. Now, you've met before,

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haven't you? I have, when I was based out in Dubai with our other

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programme Middle East Business Report. We talked at the time about

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this push elsewhere because everyone imagines the Gulf as the place of

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oil and gas, but it is not only about exploring and extract, but it

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is making it useful. Expansion into North Africa and parts of Iraq and

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Iraq is the one that's got the oil and gas itself, but the difficulty

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and clearly after the war is getting it out of the ground. It is

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investment in infrastructure. How do you play a part in that? So as

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companies from the region, we take a different look at the risks. We take

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a long-term view and we try and different ate ourselves on

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understanding what the real local market needs are and trying to

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address them rather than focussing on export and by being nimble and

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partnering well with companies from the outside and delivering on

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projects cost effectively and time, which is key, and our region as a

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whole has half the world's oil and gas, but less than a third of the

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world's oil production and less than a sixth of the world's gas

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production so we're punching way below our weight. You talk about the

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region. It was described to me once that UAE is a real safe street in a

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really dodgy neighbourhood. When you talk about that long-term view of

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investment, how do you do it in a region that is notoriously

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unpredictable? Our problems aren't below the ground. We have the lowest

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cost of production above the ground. You mentioned budget issues, but we

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have got in some countries wars, instability, payment issues or

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respect for contract, fiscal terms and then overall policy. There are

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many countries in the region where there is a national oil company with

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a monopoly and little room for the private sector, but that's starting

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to change now. Something else as well that you really want to see

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change is social and economic development within the Arab world as

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it were and you're doing a lot of work with young people in particular

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and the issue of youth unemployment which is the highest in the region,

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isn't it, worldwide? Our biggest natural res source is our young

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population, not the oil and gas. Oil and gas employs less and less

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because it is becoming more and more hi-tech. We need to create 100

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million jobs over the next two decades across the Middle East and

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North Africa. We have 30% as an average youth unemployment and we

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need more private sector investment and education and skills that match

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the needs of the private sector because the governments can't keep

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employing the young people anymore. Female empowerment, you have got two

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daughters aged one and three and that's something you want to see a

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shift in? It is critical as a moral and social issue if we have got the

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lowest female in Parliament. That leads to higher birth rates which

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means we can't catch up with the employment issue. You have just sort

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of intertwined nearly everything we've talked about in our programme

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today. Thank you for coming in. We'd love to talk to you for longer, but

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we haven't got the time in this programme. So many issues.

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This week we're looking at the Business of Birth

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Around the globe, caesarean section rates have increased dramatically,

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even as a large amount of them are not medically required.

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Whilst the average rate is 28% amongst OECD countries,

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in Turkey more than half of babies are born by C-section.

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At this hospital, eight babies are born today.

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C-sections are rather popular in Turkey.

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Over 50% of babies are born not by natural birth,

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That rate is the highest amongst OECD countries.

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But why do so many expecting mothers go through these operations?

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The increase in C-sections are due to the rise in first births among

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older women and multiple births resulting from the IVF treatment,

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treatment, but all of these Caesareans medically justified?

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Five years ago, Turkey adopted a law making it the first country

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to punish elective Caesarean sections, but it has one

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of the highest rates of C-section among developed economies.

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Doctors say the reason for that are many,

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We don't earn more than when we do C-section as a cln i, as a doctor.

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The hospitals, yes, maybe, of course. But they don't push the

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doctors. Most Turkish women these days hope

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to give birth naturally, but of course, things don't always go

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according to plan. We will have more reports from

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around the world in our business of birth series. Dominic O'Connell

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joined us. Good morning by the way. There will be all sorts of articles

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marking the tenth anniversary of the credit crisis. Ten years? Ten

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yearsment people put it down to the failure of two hedge funds that were

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run by a French bank, but you could really actually put it down to any

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number of dates in 2007 and in January and February, HSBC warned

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about lending in the US from its Household Division and then in June,

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a bank closed two hedge funds. That could be another anniversary date

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the all the articles say, there were loads of warning signs, we knew it

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was comingment nobody did. Very few people, lots of people thought there

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were problems with individual institutions and individual funds,

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but not many people, some people did, but not many people said the

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system is on the vrge of collapse. So ten years on and we've had

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results from Lloyds and from RBS and others from Barclays and HSBC, it is

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so interesting when you see they are still paying the price? Particularly

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in the case of RBS and Lloyds, still paying for payment prosteks and

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Libor. RBS have got a giant fine to come from the US authorities in its

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role in packaging up the loans for the US housing scandal. Ten years

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on, the reckoning is still to come. How important to you is your work

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environment? Very important actually. The reason I get up every

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morning! But we're talking about a service offered to office workers.

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Is it a new version of Regis? It is very trendy. It is very of the

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moment. All right. Let's talk about what you think about this. Conrad,

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"I love the modern glass offices like mine are so light." I can't say

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we have the same experience. Another viewer says, "I hate people eating

:25:50.:25:55.

their smelly lunch at their desk. It's disgusting." Have a really

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good. See you soon. Bye-bye. Hi there. Good morning. Fur' looking

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for some hot summery weather, then unfortunately this forecast isn't

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going to give that to you because it will stay unsettled. There will be

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further

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