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This is Business Live from BBC

News with Rachel Horne

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and Ben Bland.

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Online retailer Amazon leads

a barrage of tech earnings.

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Its sales were up 34%

as the retailing giant

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continues its global growth.

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Live from London, that's our top

story on Friday the 27th of October.

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Google's parent company Alphabet

reported a 24% rise in sales.

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We'll find out what's

behind the upward trend.

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And it's bye bye bye

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to floor trading on the Hong

Kong Stock Exchange.

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After more than 30 years,

it's going fully electronic.

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The markets in Europe are open. I

should be able to tell you where

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they are. The ibex is slightly down.

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I'm here, I'm waiting! There you

are.

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It's been a big week

for central banks -

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we'll round up the week's events

with our business editor

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Simon Jack.

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Spending on Halloween is expected

to hit a record $9.1bn

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in the US this year.

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Today we want to know

is it scary how much

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people are spending?

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Just use the hashtag #BBCBizLive.

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Hello and welcome to Business Live.

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Thursday was a huge day

for technology company results.

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Four of the big global tech giants

reported their latest earnings.

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Alphabet - Google's parent company,

Microsoft and Twitter

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all posted their key numbers.

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But let's start with

a look at Amazon.

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The retailer reported revenues

of almost $44 billion

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in the three months

between July and September.

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That's a jump of 34% over

the same period last year.

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But profits were virtually

unchanged since last year.

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That's because this is often

the quarter when Amazon chooses

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to pile a bunch of money

into its own projects -

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like tech gadgets, streaming

video and warehouses.

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The company has operated on this

model for years and it seems

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to have served it well.

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In fact, analysts now estimate that

Amazon will command about 43.5%

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of all commercial online sales this

year - that's nearly half

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of all the stuff sold online.

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Quite a staggering figure.

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James Collier, co-founder

of the data monetisation

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firm Prism, is here.

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Rachel was talking about the

absolute dominance that Amazon has

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online. What is interesting is the

move into bricks and mortar retail

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with the acquisition of Whole foods.

Given they have been doing the

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online thing so well do you think it

was a sensible decision?

Amazon have

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been diverse in other areas, media,

video, bricks and mortar is a

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natural transition as they bring

off-line data into the online world.

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Alphabets are also doing very, very

well, the parent company of Google.

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What are the reasons for that? Where

is the growth coming from?

Lodged

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its coming from an increase in the

volume of clicks. Advertising is

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really the big story for Alphabet,

but they have seen growth in other

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areas, other bets are starting to

come through. Google cloud services

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have seen an increase and it

represents 5% of market share.

Let's

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talk about Microsoft, often seen as

the grandfather of tech, but they

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have reinvented themselves under the

chief Executive and it is all about

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the cloud?

They set themselves a

hard goal of $20 billion from cloud

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services. They achieved that this

quarter and now they have

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transitioned. If you look five years

ago it was 5% of the business, now

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it is 20%. That includes services

from 360, the cat marked office

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suite, all the way through to the

enterprise package.

The other thing

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we keep hearing about is how much

they are interested and investing in

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artificial intelligence and the

internet of things, home connected

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devices.

Right, again, it is all

about information. The internet of

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things is about your fridge being

connected to the internet, it is

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about your car and self driving

things, AI is driving a lot of that

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and it helps businesses make better

decisions. For companies like

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Microsoft and Amazon, where they

have huge infrastructure to support

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AI, it is a massive area of

interest. Self driving cars, moon

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shots, it is a big topic for them.

Going back to Alphabet and Google,

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the increasing clicks is partly what

has given them the increased

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revenue, but what countries are

willing to pay for those clicks has

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declined significantly. What can

they do to combat that?

They are

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doing deals, so there is a plan for

Siri to be the surge of choice. But

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it cost them a huge amount of money.

They have something called TAC,

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traffic acquisition costs, and that

has gone up significantly. The cost

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per click has gone down by 20%. It

is a transition to mobile, so it is

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where they start to compete with

services like Amazon, and how they

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bring in things like Google Home,

which they are investing in

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massively which is going to

transition that back-up.

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Let's take a look at some of

the other stories making the news.

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Royal Bank of Scotland has settled

a US criminal investigation that

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accused its traders of lying

to clients over investments

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between 2008 and 2013.

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The US Department of Justice said

RBS will pay $44 million under

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the non-prosecution agreement.

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RBS said it self-reported the issue

to the US authorities.

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Toymaker Mattel is suspending

its quarterly dividend

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after being hit by the bankruptcy

of its largest retailer Toys R Us.

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Mattel shares fell after the company

announced losses of over

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$600 million in its latest results.

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The California-based company

was also hurt by weak demand

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for products like Barbie,

Hot Wheels and Thomas & Friends.

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Strong pickup truck and SUV

sales in the US boosted

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Ford's bottom line.

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The carmaker saw profits jump 60%

compared to the same period last

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year when it faced a recall.

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However, it still faces

an uphill battle in China,

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where sales have been

have been lower.

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More revelations about

Japanese companies.

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Nissan reportedly carrying out

faulty checks on vehicles sold

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in Japan since 1979.

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And reports Subaru carried out

illegal inspections on its vehicles.

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Leisha Santorelli is in Singapore.

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What more can you tell us about the

latest reports about Subaru?

Well,

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Rachel, shares in Subaru took a

tumble on these reports that an

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certified technicians were allowed

to conduct a vital vehicle

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inspections at one of the factories

north of Tokyo. If confirmed, Subaru

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might have to conduct a major

recall. One report put it at about

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300,000 cars. Subaru is scheduled to

hold a press conference at 8am GMT.

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If the situation sounds familiar, it

is. Subaru is facing the same

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problem that Nissan admitted to.

Bloomberg is reporting that Nissan's

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certification scandal might have

stretched back to 1979, nearly 40

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years. It was actually because of

Nissan's for the inspection process

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that Japan's transport Ministry

ordered all domestic car-makers to

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conduct internal investigations.

That is why we are seeing these

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revelations and reports coming out

about Subaru facing the same

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problem.

OK, thank you for the

update. Let's see how the markets

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have been going on. We have the

Australian all ordinaries up.

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A court has ruled that the Deputy PM

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Barnaby Joyce and four other

politicians were wrongly elected

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because they held dual citizenship.

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Spinnaker that has stripped the

government of the one seat majority.

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In Hong Kong, you can see that

stocks were up overnight, inspired

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by strength and Wall Street. You can

see the Dow Jones up after strong

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earnings figures.

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And what about Europe -

yesterday the European Central Bank

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said they will extend their stimulus

programme although they will

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start the cut the levels of bond

buying from January.

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And we've got the Spanish stock

exchange up - the Ibex -

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because today the Spanish Senate may

approve the take-over of Catalonia's

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institutions and police,

Barcelona could respond

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by declaring independence.

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Let's go to Wall Street.

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On Friday we will see just how

fast the US economy grew

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in the last three months.

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In the previous quarter,

between April and June,

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the US economy grew 3.1%.

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For this quarter, however,

many are expecting to see a bit

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of a slowdown and estimate that

gross domestic product, or GDP,

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will be coming in at about 2.5%.

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Two oil companies will be

reporting earnings on Friday.

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Exxon Mobile, the world's largest

publicly traded oil producer,

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is expected to show a rise

in profit, while cost-cutting

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is likely to help Chevron also

report a jump in profit

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for the quarter.

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Finally, the pharmaceutical giant

Merck will be reporting earnings.

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Investors will be on the lookout

for information on the sales

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of its cancer drug Keytruda.

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Updates on a cyber security attack

that Merck said last quarter

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would likely impact its profits

will also be of interest.

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Joining us is James Bevan,

Chief Investment Officer at CCLA

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Investment Management

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The last time we had growth figures,

pretty robust, 3.1%. What do we

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think this time?

Definitely a slow

number, the Fed's own numbers

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suggest 2.7. There are some people

expecting a higher number on the

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back of hurricane interest, leading

to faster car sales. Better numbers

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coming out of China, international

dimension is as well.

At the top of

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the programme we were talking about

the tech titans.

Fascinating stuff!

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How dependent is Wall Street on the

big tech stocks?

Very dependent.

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They have been the principal driver

of market progress to date. It is

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not surprising because the numbers

are sparkling and people are really

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betting on the long-term future.

There are companies like Twitter who

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are yet to report a profit.

Just

looking at President Trump and his

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plans for tax reforms in the US,

what impact could it have on tech

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companies? In his election campaign

we heard a lot about him saying he

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wanted to reduce tax for the big

tech company is to bring profits

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back to the US. Do you think that

could still happen?

Absolutely.

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There is a bi- location of issues

for Trump on tech companies. He

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would dearly love to see the money

off shored backs The Backed the

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United States, providing the push

for growth. The second issue is at

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what point does he get bored of

these companies really driving the

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shape of the US economy? Think he

has real reservations that Amazon,

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example, in purchasing Wholefoods

was more about getting market share

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than driving profit.

I suppose that

is the other concern, traders and

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investors will lose patience with

the promised tax reforms. They had

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been promised them for a long time.

They cleared a hurdle in the last

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day or so. The hope must be that

there isn't a market correction

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before the tax changes come in?

I

think a correction would be fine. A

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descent into a bear market would be

a different proposition and we are a

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long way from that. We are a long

way from having a US recession. As

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perverse as it might seem, if we got

a rapid growth, followed by a

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clamp-down by the Federal Reserve,

if Professor Taylor were to become

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chairman, the market would be

uncomfortable.

We will delve into

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that with Simon Jeff later in the

programme. Thanks for coming in.

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Lots of speculation over who'll be

the next Fed Chair -

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and we'll get some more

from our business editor Simon Jack

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as he wraps up the week's

biggest economic stories.

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You're with Business

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IAG, the parent company

of British Airways, has

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reported passenger and cargo

revenue growth today.

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Passenger revenue rose by 1.6%

to £5.15 billion between July

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and September while cargo grew

by 7.9% to £213 million.

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Our Economics Correspondent,

Andrew Walker, joins us now

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from our Business Newsroom.

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How have they managed to achieve

these figures?

Well, it is a

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striking performance. In one sense

they managed quite an increase in

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profits for the first nine months of

the year of 11%. That goes up to 1.9

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billion euros, and as you indicated

a significant part of that is down

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to what has been going on on the

revenue side. Passenger numbers were

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up. They took an extra 2.5 million

people in that period, just over 80

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million passengers all told. There

was actually a slight fall in the

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weight of cargo that they took. They

seem to have taken it further and

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they actually increased revenue from

that as well. The company says that

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there were particularly strong

performances on the passenger side

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in East Asia, Latin America,

especially Latin America, and the

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Caribbean, although they say that

the biggest markets, Europe and

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North America, also did well with

British Airways in particular making

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good sales of some of its premium

fares, business class and so fourth.

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What about the cost?

The movements

have been in the right direction

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from the company perspective. Total

costs down by 1.8%. Fuel in

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particular is down by 8.4%. This is

reflecting what is going on in

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markets. There is also hedging

activity going on which does tend to

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dampen the impact that market moves

have on the cost that airlines

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faced. But overall, encouraging

performance and cost side as well.

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You know when you look at hotel

rooms online, you get that message

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saying that six other people are

trying to book a? The authorities

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are looking into that to see if

you're getting the best deal or not.

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They are worried about the clarity

and accuracy of information given to

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consumers. If you think you're not

getting the best deal, you may not

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be, and you can read more on that on

our website.

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You're watching Business Live.

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Our top story: Online

retailer Amazon leads

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a barrage of tech earnings.

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It's sales were up 34%

in July to September,

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while Google's parent company

Alphabet also reported bumper

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sales for the period.

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Now, it's been a big

week for central banks -

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with speculation about who will be

the next head of the Fed.

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While in Europe, the ECB indicated

it'll start slowing down key

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bond-buying stimulus measures

And there's been movement

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on Trump's tax policy.

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Simon Jack is our business

editor and joins us now.

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Thanks for coming in.

Good morning.

Let's start with the new head of the

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Federal Reserve - who do we think it

will be?

Janet Yellen, the

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incumbent, her term expires in

February. She has been comfortable

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with unconventional monetary policy,

quantitative easing. The big task

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for the next person will be

reversing some of that. Donald Trump

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was critical of her in his election

campaign. Having said that, last

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week, he said she was to rhetoric.

He said the stock market was going

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fine and warmed up to her. The two

front runners are John Taylor, an

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academic from Stanford University. A

hawk, meaning he likes to put

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Upminster -- interest rates faster

than other people -- put up interest

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rates. The other candidate has

talked about easing the stress tests

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that have been put on the banks.

That chimes with Donald Trump.

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Whoever gets the job, it will be

interesting because they have two

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reverse the biggest monetary policy

experiment of all time, when the

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Federal Reserve bot $4.5 trillion

worth of assets. -- bought $4.5

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trillion worth of assets.

I lose

track of how long we have been

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talking about the promised tax

reforms. Finally, some progress?

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They seem to be inching towards it,

passing a bill last week which got

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it to the next stage. Everyone

agrees in the US that corporate tax

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is too high, 35% in the US, whereas

it is only 20% in the UK. The big

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debate is about how you pay for it.

A lot of people are saying, we could

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take away some pension relief,

reduce the tax thresholds, so you

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would raise some money from them.

Some people worry that that is a tax

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on the middle classes, not what

Donald Trump promise. The question

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everyone agrees on is that it should

happen, it is how it should be paid

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for. The Ronald Reagan economics

that Donald Trump is talking about,

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the bet is that economy grows

faster, so the tax take goes up,

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even though you reduce the rate.

Talking about the corporate tax

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rate, we were discussing it with

James Bevan in relation to the big

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tech companies who have had results

in the last 24 hours. Do you think

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they would bring their money home if

the rate was reduced?

It is more

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about the money that is already

sloshing over there. Apple has $250

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million sloshing around in various

places. The boss of Apple has said

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he would be happy to bring it back.

There are a lot of people who think

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that companies will buy back their

own shares and reduce the number of

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slices of the pie so that each

shareholder gets a bit richer.

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People say that is not real

investment in the economy. Jamie

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Diamond, the boss of JP Morgan, says

even if they do use it for share

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buy-backs, so what? It's all money

and money coming back to the US. I

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don't think we are there yet, but

that flood of cash coming back to

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the US would have a big effect on

the dollar. It would be an

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interesting thing to witness. You

would probably see the dollar go up,

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reducing inflation in the US, which

might be a problem for the Federal

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Reserve. When it comes to tax

reform, it gets everywhere.

And ECB

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talking about bond buying.

They are

reducing it. Downsizing is the word

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emerging. Every time you take away

stimulus, people get a bit sweaty

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about it, so Mario druggie yesterday

managed to say he was going to

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reduce bond buying the 30 billion a

month until September 20 18th, but

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decided to leave it open ended.

There was no one facing the threat.

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He said it could be done for longer

and that interest rates won't be

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increased until the bond buying is

over. He's taking it down a bit but

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leaving it open ended in order to

withdraw stimulus, some of it,

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without giving people the shakes.

But the euro takes a hit as a

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result?

Yes, because we were gearing

ourselves up for a bit more of a

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tightening, saying this was when it

was going to be over. When you make

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interest rates go up a bit, that

makes deposits in those currencies

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more valuable. They will downsize it

but keep it open ended, and that

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will loosen money policy, which

brings the currency down, so the

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euro took a hit.

Simon Jack, thank

you very much.

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The Hong Kong stock exchange

will close its trading floor,

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after 31 years, on Friday.

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In its heyday, the floor was home to

more than a thousand stockbrokers.

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But the rise of electronic

and Internet trading has changed

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the industry permanently.

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TRANSLATION:

The world is changing.

Financial technology is developing.

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We should get with the Times, even

if we don't want to go.

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TRANSLATION:

I started as a broker

after finishing school. It has been

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over 40 years. There used to be four

exchanges. Then they combined to

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become one exchange in 1986, and we

moved into this hole. We started out

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as a small, regional stock exchange,

but then Hong Kong became an

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international financial centre. I

think stockbrokers working here

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contributed a lot. We have gone

through countless financial crises,

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and we persevered. Stockbrokers made

great contributions. This is

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something we are very proud of.

And

with that, the lights fade on the

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Hong Kong stock exchange floor.

0:23:030:23:09

James is back to look

through the papers.

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Have you been in the Hong Kong stock

exchange itself on the trading

0:23:130:23:19

floor?

Twice. I went in 1994, when

it was the only way you could trade

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shares. There were 1000 people and

it was exciting. A bit like a

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football match - lots of shouting

and lots of red jackets. A poster

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child for the capitalist system. I

went again in 2000, and it was

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nearly empty, such change in such a

short period.

Is it New York and

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Frankfurt left?

If you go to New

York, you will do it as a Taurus

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rather than because of a genuine

interest in trading. It is a

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marketing tool for the stock

exchange rather than a principal

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driver.

Do you think that losing the

trading floor and that atmosphere is

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progress?

It is absolute reality. As

soon as light becomes digital,

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everything will be on the screen.

Did you enjoy the trading floor?

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Sweaty moments?

That was all too

frenetic, lots of shouting. It was a

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bit like going to an auction.

It was

like you transported us there! I

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also want to talk about Halloween.

It is creeping up upon us, and the

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latest figures suggest that the US

will spend $9 billion and more on

0:24:340:24:40

Halloween this year. We have been

asking for your comments on this.

0:24:400:24:44

Does that thought scare you? Luca

Thorne says: It is frightening but

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it shows how popular Halloween is in

America. Kyle says: Dentists must be

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thrilled, all those sweets being

eaten. Are you spending any money on

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Halloween?

Absolutely not.

James?

There are people buying things they

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don't really want with money they

haven't really got, very often to

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impress people they don't really

like. And it's a bad cocktail.

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That's depressing!

What are you

spending on Halloween?

My children

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want to dress up as zombies, which

means getting old clothes and

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covering them in ketchup.

In the

States, 16% of households spend

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money on dressing up their dogs.

That's true, pet Halloween.

The most

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popular ones are hotdogs, for pets.

Hotdogs?

I thought you meant

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dressing up hotdogs.

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