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This is Business Live from BBC News

with Ben Bland and Sally Bundock.

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The world's biggest economy

looks for a new banker-in-chief.

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President Trump says he'll pick

a new Fed chair this week.

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We'll tell you

who's in with a shout.

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Live from London, that's our

top story on Monday 30th.

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Janet Yellen's four years running

the Federal Reserve are nearly up,

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so will she get another go,

or will financial markets be hanging

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on the every word of someone else?

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Also in the programme,

appreciating Asia.

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Europe's largest bank, HSBC,

sees a huge jump in profits

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after doing far better

in the Far East.

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This is how the markets look across

Europe at the start of the trading

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day, interesting moves following the

record highs from the US on Friday.

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Spinning a profit out of silk.

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We'll speak to the company

creating sythetic spider threads

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to make stronger

and more sustainable fabrics.

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As Nikon announces the closure

of its camera production factory

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in China, we want to know,

do you still use a camera?

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Or is it all about taking snaps with

your smartphone?

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Just use #BBCBizLive.

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Photos and a smartphone? You would

never catch me taking a selfie!

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Hello and welcome to Business Live.

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Janet Yellen is currently

the world's

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most powerful central banker,

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but her days could be numbered.

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That's because US President Donald

Trump says he will tell us this week

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who he wants to be the chair of

the Federal Reserve come February.

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Whoever gets the job

will have a huge influence

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on the world's biggest economy,

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and therefore the rest

of the world too.

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And they will also be vital to Mr

Trump's plans for the US economy.

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Ms Yellen could get another

four year term

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but seems likely to be replaced,

so who are the front runners?

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John Taylor is a Stanford University

economist and always on the list

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of potential Fed chairs

but never gets the job.

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He's a hawk and thinks interest

rates should be much

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higher than they are.

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Next up is Jerome Powell -

he's a Republican,

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a current member of the Fed board,

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and he has experience

in the private sector.

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But he's voted in favour

of post-financial crisis rules

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that President Trump

doesn't approve of.

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And then there's Kevin Warsh.

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He's been on the Fed board for more

than a decade, so he is experienced,

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but he may want to see

too fast a rise in interest rates.

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I'm joined by Simon French,

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chief economist at the

investment bank Panmure Gordon.

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Good morning. So Ben talking through

the various candidates, no sign of

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Janet Yellen among them.

No, the

markets have responded well to the

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four years of Janet Yellen, if you

see the challenge she had on hands,

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the US economy recovering from its

biggest financial crisis in 70

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years, she started the normalisation

of monetary policy, bringing up

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interest rates, and this month is

reducing the balance sheet, the $4

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trillion held by the Federal

Reserve. So that is a skilful

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balancing job, but she does not

appear to be currying favour with

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the president.

So if she is not

nominated again, who do you think is

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the most likely to take the job, the

most powerful central banker in the

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world?

I thought the introduction

was really good, it laid out the

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argument for all the candidates who

remain in the field, Jerome Powell,

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talking about continuity, he has a

similar view on interest rates, a

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similar sort of path as Janet Yellen

has delivered, and so he is the big

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favourite with the market. I think

the thing to balance that against is

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John Taylor, who may have a more

aggressive you on interest rates, or

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at least his rules based approach

has, but he is very popular with

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Congress, and of course in the

background to all of this is tax

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reform. We'll Donald Trump think

there is a trade to be done? He

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provides the candidate Congress

wants, and in return they will be

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more amenable to tax reform going

forward? Advice and that it's

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important for President Trump,

because he wants

to make a change,

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he doesn't want Janet Yellen in the

post again, Barack Obama's choice,

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but he also wants someone in that

position who will be the person to

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help him through with his economic

programme, which is fairly important

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to him.

Yes, and he is on record as

saying he wants persistent 3% - for

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GDP growth, and that means running

the US economy quite hot, and

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normally supported by low interest

rates, and therefore as a candidate,

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Kevin Warsh, John Taylor,

historically they have talked about

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higher interest rates, and that is

not consistent with that thesis.

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Simon, thank you for coming in, as

soon as we get any whiff of who has

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got the nomination, we will let you

know. I might even the slightest

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whiff!

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Let's take a look at some of

the other stories making the news.

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Kobe Steel has announced it won't be

making a profit forecast

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for the rest of year,

because it can't predict

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how its data fabrication scandal

will hit its earnings.

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The steel maker has also

scrapped its half year

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dividend to shareholders.

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Kobe Steel shares were

trading 2% higher

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after the announcement was made.

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EasyJet has confirmed a $46 million

deal with Air Berlin

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to buy part of the insolvent German

airline's operations, in

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a move that will secure 1,000 jobs.

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EasyJet will buy some

of the company's assets

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at Berlin Tegel Airport,

including landing slots,

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as well as leases for up

to 25 A320 aircraft.

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The UK airline said it plans

to take on 1,000 German

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pilots and cabin crew.

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Nintendo has raised its yearly

profit forecast of the huge demand

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for its Switch console. The Japanese

games maker says and recently

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increased production and now expects

to make an annual profit of more

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than $1 billion. It also expects to

sell 14 million Switch consoles this

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year.

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It is a big day for earnings today,

and among the stories is banking

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giant HSBC, Europe's biggest,

reporting a massive jump in profits

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for the three months to the end of

September. Yes, doing much better in

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Asia, Karishma Vaswani is in

Singapore, tell us more about this,

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then.

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Well, HSBC reported a pre-tax profit

of $4.6 billion, up more than 400%,

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but it has to be said that this is

from a pretty low base of $843

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million in the same period last

year, so that spectacular rise needs

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to be put into context. The reason

for coming off that low basis,

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because HSBC lost almost $2 billion

from the sale of its Brazilian unit

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in the third quarter of 2016, and

also because of volatility in

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foreign currency movements. Now, the

group chief executive said that this

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quarter's strong performance was as

a result of the bank's continued

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pivot to Asia. We have known about

this for some time, particularly in

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areas like Hong Kong and parts of

southern area they have become

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really important for the firm's

expansion going forward, and it is

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likely that we are going to continue

to see that in the future, as

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analysts say the bank's continued

bad Nader has been part of its

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strategy to grow the business and

make up for losses elsewhere. --

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continued growth in Asia.

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A big story for the markets

will be interest-rate

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setting decisions this week -

by the Federal Reserve

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in the US on Wednesday,

the Bank of England on Thursday,

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and the Bank of Japan as well.

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Tokyo stocks ran out of steam

to end virtually flat on Monday

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but still at a 21-year high.

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The Nasdaq closed 2.2% higher,

spurred on by impressive results

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from Apple and other tech companies

a quick look at the European market

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at the start of the trading day, the

trading week. I noticed that the

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Ibex in Spain doing better than it

has in recent days, the Catalonia

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crisis rumbles on. We can look at

the day ahead on Wall Street with

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Michelle Fleury.

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Investors with have little time

to catch their breath this week

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between all the economic

and corporate news due out.

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Now, the big events of the monthly

employment report on Friday,

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and the Federal Reserve's

interest-rate setting policy

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meeting taking place

on Tuesday and Wednesday.

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Of course, many Wall Street traders

are engaged in a parlour game,

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trying to guess who will be

the next head of the Fed.

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President Trump says he is close

to deciding who will replace

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Janet Yellen when her term

ends in February.

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Kicking the week off, though,

is personal income data,

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for September, due out on Monday.

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Now, this includes the Fed's

favourite measure of inflation,

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and it's not clear to what extent

numbers, which inched up

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in August,

will be affected by the recent

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hurricaneshere in United States.

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On the corporate side of things,

well, the focus on technology

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continues, with Facebook and Apple

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both turning in profit

figures later this week.

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Mike Bell is global

market strategist

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at JPMorgan Asset Management.

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Good morning, what are you watching?

We have got our eyes on the Bank of

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England, whether they will put

interest rates up, we think they

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probably will, but we have seen some

signs that perhaps a few of the

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members of the MPC are starting to

wonder whether this is a good idea.

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So very focused on whether aren't

they will be concerned that wage

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growth has not picked up another. --

whether aren't they will be

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concerned. In real terms, wages are

still an issue.

The other thing that

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we are watching, the big decision at

the Bank of England, but perhaps not

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so closely watched, the bank of

Japan meeting, I mean, the Nikkei,

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although it has taken a bit of a

pause today, it is still riding this

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global equities wave.

Japanese

equities are doing very well on the

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back of this global growth, exports

recently up 18% year-on-year, and

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that is feeding through into strong

earnings for Japanese companies, and

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the other thing you are seeing, on a

relative basis, they tend to

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outperform when the yen has been

weaker.

What about the situation in

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Spain? We have seen the euro come up

a bit today against the dollar, are

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you watching that closely, or are

you less concerned about that now?

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We are not concerned about it. As we

have seen it play out over the last

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couple of weeks, they are not in a

position to leave, so it seems

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unlikely to us that there is a

majority of people within Catalonia

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who want to leave, and even if they

did, there is no clear mechanism for

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them to do so.

All right, thank you,

Mike will return, we will find out

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how much he uses a camera later.

Keeping it snappy today!

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Still to come, spinning a profit out

of soap, a company looking to

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spiders to make more sustainable

fabrics. Not a Halloween joke, will

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explain all in a few minutes' time!

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You're with Business

Live from BBC News.

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Advance to digital technology could

give UK manufacturers a massive

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boost and create hundreds of

thousands of jobs. That is according

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to an independent review which

highlights the benefits of robotics,

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3D printing and artificial

intelligence.

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Its recommendations should help

inform the Government's industrial

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strategy plans. The review was

chaired by the head of Siemens UK,

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who joins us now, what were the

recommendations you would pick out

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as key takeaway points, then?

Well,

first of all, the overall

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recommendation is that Great Britain

needs to have much stronger ambition

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and leadership in this fourth

digital industrial revolution. We

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really need to drive it hard and

make sure that we have the right

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mechanisms for British manufacturing

companies to be able to adopt these

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technologies enable much simpler and

easier way. And another key

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recommendation is to upskill our

people, we need to hit that head-on,

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we need to give our people the

skills so it becomes something which

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is less of a topic we are scared of

than one we embrace and transition

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to this revolution.

Another topic

that some may be scared of, Brexit,

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you talk about strong leadership in

this area - right now all the

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leadership in this country is trying

to negotiate a trade deal with

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Europe when the UK does exit,

something that manufacturers are,

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for very good reasons, focusing on

at the moment.

Well, indeed, and as

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a manufacturer in the UK, it is

absolutely clear that we are looking

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for a deal which, at the end, has

the least possible friction for us

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being able to trade with the EU. But

I am realistic, and there is going

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to be some increasing friction and

increasing costs towards transacting

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business here post-Brexit. Hopefully

not that much, but it is another

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reason why this review is so

important, because what we need is

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some optimism, and we need some

positive things which will encourage

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companies like ours and many other

companies to invest in the UK,

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despite what will happen on Brexit.

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Hello. You're with Business Live.

Our top story, financial markets

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worldwide are waiting on a decision

by US President Donald Trump, he

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will decide on who he should

nominate to be chair of the Federal

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Reserve. That's the job, some say,

is the world's most important

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Central Banker. Let's look at the

markets. This is the picture across

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the main European indexes. Frankfurt

and Paris outperforming London. The

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Spanish eye becks is up more than 1%

this morning, doing better than it

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has in recent days as the Catalonia

crisis continues.

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I promised we would have a

Spider-Man in the studio!

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You wondered what Ben got up to.

It

was Hallowe'en!

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Now let's get the inside

track on spider silk.

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Yes, it may be five times

stronger than steel,

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but the mass of production of spider

silk will never become a reality.

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And if the thought of all of those

spiders is making your skin crawl,

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the California based start-up,

Bolt Threads, may have the solution.

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The company uses gene splicing

technology to modify yeast and this

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enables the mass-production

of silk protein.

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Bolt believes that this is much more

sustainable than the conventional

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method of producing textiles

which typically uses petroleum

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as the key ingredient.

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Dan Widmaier is co founder

and CEO of Bolt Threads.

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So this is the Spider-Man I have

been talking about! But you're not

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really, are you? Just tell us about

this. This is something that you and

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two others worked on whilst you were

still studying at university for six

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years and then you got more funding

to establish it further. Just tell

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us about the beginning of this

story?

Something we told our friends

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that we didn't want to get real jobs

so we started our own company and

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probably a crazy idea, no idea that

it would go for seven years and work

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as well as as it does today.

And you

are a scientist and you're creating

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this spider technology to create

silk, but it's done in a much more

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sustainable way?

We take the DNA

from an organasm and puts in a

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protein powder and then we spin it

into fibres.

You have done a deal

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with the Stella McCartney fashion

line for some products?

We have as

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well as doing outdoor and we have a

brand in the United States called

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Best Made Company. . Speed is

everything. This is one of the

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things we've learnt coming from

Silicon Valley. Same thing, go

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really fast and learn what it is

good for and bring the product to

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market.

I'm sure president Trump

would be happy to hear you are

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keeping it all in the United States,

you are not making the tie, you have

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got a tie here for example, in

Vietnam or anywhere like this. But

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in terms of the take-up, you have

seen a massive, massive take up, you

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cannot respond to the level of

demand. Just talk us through that

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challenge because that could be very

critical for you?

This is a

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technology where we have designed

down the molecular level what it is

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and had to build the technology to

scale it. We are working on building

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more scale. We commissioned a

factory until California two blocks

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from our office that can make this

fibre. There is 50 million tonnes a

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year.

Pass me the tie a second. I

want to feel it. I spend quite a bit

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on ties. We have to keep the

variety. How much would one of these

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set me back? Sustainable, but is it

going to cost me a lot more?

Cost of

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making materials we are getting

there on the cost of silk.

He has

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got it! He has got it. How much?

So

that one is only a limited run of 50

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units. $314. It's a scientists joke

not about bringing the product to

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market.

Is it affordable? People

hear the big fashion labels and

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think I'm priced out?

We are not too

far off the price what silk worm

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costs. Over time this could be as

cheap as polyester.

Fashion is a

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second dirtiest industry in the

world after oil which I was quite

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astounded to learn today. That was

something I didn't know prior to

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researching your company. How

quickly will this take on? I know

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you're doing it, but the uptake is

not out there to have a real impact

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on the fashion industry, is it, in

terms of making it cleaner?

You're

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talking about 80 billion garments

this year. I think all of our

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closets have too many. It is a

problem of giant scale and we are

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moving as fast as we can. When the

demand is huge the appetite to

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finance great expansion is huge.

All

right, Dan, it has been fascinating

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to hear about your company. Thank

you for coming in.

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Let's gets the latest in our CEO

secrets.

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Cecile Rein of Seraphine,

the UK's first line

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of fashionable maternity wear.

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Coming to London from France,

she started the business

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as a one-woman company.

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She now has sales of $26 million

worldwide and employs 100 people.

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But her biggest problem was finding

the right staff to hire

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as her business grew.

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When recruiting don't

look so much at the CV,

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It's very hard for a new

entrepreneur to take on new people

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and to give them the trust

so that they can start looking

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after parts of your own business.

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Many times I felt I have failed

dismally and I didn't kind of sense

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that person correctly.

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At times I have recruited people

from much bigger brands and I found

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that they were really

difficult to adapt.

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"We can't do this".

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"We can't do that".

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I think when you are an entrepreneur

you have to have a culture

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which is a kind of yes culture.

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I really learnt that don't just look

at the piece of paper

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and the CV and the experience.

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You want to really

look at the person.

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Some people have got less perfect CV

and will be better for your company.

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Look at their true skills rather

than what is written on their CVs.

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Mike is back to look

through the papers.

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Good to see you Mike. The first one

that caught our eye was Nikon to

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close its digital camera plant in

China because we are using our

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smartphones?

The compact cameras are

being shut down, but they will focus

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on digital SLRs. Clearly, people are

using iPhones and other smartphones

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to take their photos in a compact

way, but there is demand for the

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larnler SLR market.

I am that

person. Ti cannot remember the last

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time I picked up a, I call it a

proper camera, I know they are

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proper cameras, compact camera.

I

bought one before going on holiday

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because I wanted good quality

photos, you miss the chance to take

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photos because it takes longer to

get it out of the bag. The phone is

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out, you swipe, you snap. It is

really quick. We are asking you for

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your tweets on this. Do you still

use a traditional camera or do them

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on the smartphone? Quite a differing

opinions. Luke says, "I prefer to

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take photos on my phone because it's

easier. We have Liam saying I use

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both.

A viewer says she was never

good with the camera, but good with

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the mobile phone.

You can focus.

What about you Mike?

I bought a

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digital SLR a year ago.

Have you

used it?

A little bit. I would say

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that I use my iPhone most of the

time for photos of people.

It's

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there all the time.

Easier to use,

but for things if you are trying to

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take a landscape photo of light,

sunsets, it is not as good as if you

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use a digital SLR.

Technology can

make leaps ads bounds and sometimes

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what you gain in terms of compact

and convenience you lose in terms of

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quality.

American Express is

basically changing the bay it does

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things. What's going on?

Well, there

is this competition in the card

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industry at moment, trying to get

the high end consumers, who spend

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lots on credit cards and there is a

battle around rewards going on and I

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should say in full disclosure that

JP Morgan I work for are one of the

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companies involved in that battle

with our credit card products in the

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US and you know, we and various

other large banks are competing with

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American Express to try and take

some of that business of the high

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end spenders.

And that's it.

The

Fings Times calls it a rewards war?

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I suppose people are looking for

benefit. If they are going to get

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rewards on flights or cinema. The

other thing is hard to get tickets

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because it becomes the marginal

benefits that might sway people?

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Analysts do sit down and work out

what the benefits are per card. But

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it is harder to measure things that

are much more tricky to make.

Mike,

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thank you.

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