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This is Business Live from BBC

News with David Eades

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and Susannah Streeter.

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Passengers are up but profits

are down, as Easyjet

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gives its latest numbers

for the last year.

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Live from London, that's our

top story on Tuesday

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the 21st of November.

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The low-cost carrier blamed

a weaker pound for a 17%

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fall in pre-tax profits,

just as the company

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is saying bon voyage

to Chief Executive Carolyn McCall,

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who leaves in December.

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Also in the programme,

the US government has filed

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a lawsuit to try to stop

the multi-billion dollar takeover

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by the American telecoms giant

AT&T of the media group,

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Time Warner.

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A quick look at the markets and the

message coming out of Europe to

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start with, it is down, bucking the

trend we've seen across Asia and the

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US.

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Educating the masses: we'll be

speaking to the founder

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of a tutoring company that's helped

20,000 students in just four years.

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In the US, a turkey will be

pardoned by the President

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ahead of Thanksgiving.

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Today, we want to know

about your holiday traditions.

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Is it trees and lights?

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Eggnog?

Carols?

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Is it too early?

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Let us know.

Just use the hashtag BBCBizLive.

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Hello and welcome to Business Live.

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Easyjet has blamed a weaker

pound for a 17% fall

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in annual pre-tax profits.

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The budget carrier's profits

for the year ending in September

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came in at $540 million.

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However, it was not all gloomy news,

with passenger numbers rising

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by 9.7% to 80 million.

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In recent times, the company has

been looking to expand,

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having put in offers to buy parts

of the now defunct AirBerlin

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and Alitalia airlines.

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It's been aided by the collapse

of rival Monarch earlier

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in the year, especially

on some key routes.

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And of course, its main rival

Ryanair is dealing with the fallout

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of a disastrous scheduling

malfunction that led

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to the cancellation of around 20,000

flights and shaved millions

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from its bottom line.

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This will be the last time

Chief Executive Carolyn McCall

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reports earnings for the airline.

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She finishes the job on December 1st

before taking up a new role as CEO

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of ITV television here in London.

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She told the BBC about

her decision to leave.

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I think we have turned the company

into a really great airline.

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So, I leave with sadness,

but I also think there is always

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a time to leave and I would rather

be leaving when things are starting

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to look very positive

and that's why I'm leaving.

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I think seven-and-a-half years

is about the right time.

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Victoria Moores is European

Editor and Bureau Chief

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at Air Transport World.

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Good morning. We heard from Carolyn

McCall, there, a good time to leave,

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revenues up by 8%, even though

profits are not doing so well.

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That's a real indication of the

where think -- way things are and

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the air transport market at the

moment, passenger numbers up 9.7%,

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revenues up by 8.1% but at the same

time, profits are down which

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reflects the fact the passengers are

paying less for their seats. Less

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than they have before.

It is more

about that than the currency

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fluctuations or drop?

It's a mix of

everything that is going on in the

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market. We have a fiercely

competitive market. Obviously,

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things like currency fluctuations,

Brexit and the uncertainty around

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that does not help but the main

thing is, European aviation, we have

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got a lot of airlines and a lot of

competition.

But is it clear skies

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for easyJet now? It has come out

with a good set of numbers, Ryanair

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is struggling with scheduling, we

have had the collapse of Moloch. Do

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you think the future looks good for

Ryanair?

I don't think that any

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airline ever celebrate another

airline's misfortune. But yes,

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certainly if there are fewer players

in the market, fewer people fighting

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for the passengers, it makes things

a bit easier if you have got

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airlines that are really struggling

and desperately trying to get hold

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of passengers exiting the market. We

have seen more of that busier than

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we have in a long time, it has been

predicted for a long while that we

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need consolidation and it's finally

happened this year.

But it feels

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like a confident airline, Carolyn

McCall is obviously going to talk it

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up as she goes but they are out on

the ground, looking to acquire,

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looking to build for the future.

Absolutely. Willie Walsh was

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speaking recently and he said the

traditional airlines were a bit

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arrogant about the idea of low-cost

carriers when they first came on the

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scene. Low-cost carriers have proven

they are to here stay, that the

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business model works and under

Carolyn McCall's leadership, easyJet

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has branched out to really attack

the primary hubs, to get business

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passengers. EasyJet is a very

innovative airline as well, you see

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them doing a lot of trials with

technology like using drones for

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aircraft inspections, doing a lot of

automation together with Gatwick

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Airport. They are really trying to

push the curve as opposed to

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following it.

But possible turbulent

times ahead with the loss of the

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open skies agreement with Brexit. Do

you think easyJet can weather that

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storm?

They have already got some

contingencies in place. Airlines

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have to be majority-owned within the

continent they operate or the market

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they operate and they have set up a

new airline in Austria called

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easyJet Europe to maintain the

rights to be able to fly the kind of

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routes passengers are used to flying

with easyJet. They are putting

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contingencies in place but there is

no doubt that doing that costs money

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and ultimately when passengers are

not prepared to pay very much for

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their tickets, it puts further

pressure on profits.

Thank you for

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joining us.

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We're going to bring

you a big story from the US.

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The Department of Justice will sue

to block a proposed $85 billion

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takeover of Time Warner by AT&T.

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Regulatory concerns around the deal

have ramped up in recent months

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and now the US Justice Department

is saying it violates rules

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governing fair competition.

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Samira Hussain reports

from New York.

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This is a deal that has always made

sense for the two companies.

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AT&T is one of America's leading

mobile telecom operators.

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So owning Time Warner's news

and entertainment properties

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would really give it a big

competitive advantage and based

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on precedent like Comcast's

take-over of NBC which went

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through in 2010, this AT&T merger

looked like it would be

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accepted by regulators,

but as soon as it was announced

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in 2016, then-presidential candidate

Donald Trump made it clear

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that he did not like it.

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Mr Trump has also been very clear

about his deep dislike for the news

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coverage of CNN, which is

owned by Time Warner.

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Now responding to the news that

Mr Trump's Justice Department

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is going to try to block the deal,

AT&T's boss didn't hold back

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from the politics of the situation.

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The bottom line is that we cannot

and we will not be party to any

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agreement that would even give

the perception of compromising

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the first amendment

protections of the press.

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So any agreement that results in us

forfeiting control of CNN

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whether directly or indirectly

is a non-starter.

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The Department of Justice

denies any suggestion

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that the deal is being blocked

because of the president's animosity

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towards CNN and says that the AT&T

and Time Warner would simply have

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too much media power.

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The companies are clearly determined

to challenge that view.

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Let's take a look at some of

the other stories making the news.

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The last big procedural hurdle

to the completion of Keystone XL

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pipeline was cleared on Monday,

when five members of the Nebraska

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Public Service Commission voted

to approve an amended route

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through the state.

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But opponents have promised to tie

the project up in court

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for years and TransCanada

is still studying its

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commercial viability.

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Colorado regulators have

fined Uber $8.9 million,

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saying the ride-hailing app allowed

57 people to work as drivers

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without a valid license or had

committed other offences that

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would have disqualified them.

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Uber said it recently discovered

an error in its background check

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process and is working to correct

the issue.

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The Turkish lira has fallen

to a new record low,

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after the country's central bank cut

borrowing limits for Turkish banks.

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The move was made to reduce

liquidity of the currency,

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which has led to high inflation over

the past 12 months.

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-- which is one of the world's worst

performers over the past year.

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Tencent, China's biggest social

network and gaming firm,

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has become China's first

$500 billion technology giant It now

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has sights on securing

success in the rest of the world.

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Leisha Santorelli is in Singapore.

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Do you think it has got its sights

set on becoming the next Facebook?

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It is actually bigger than Facebook

by market capitalisation now and

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this is really exciting news because

it is the first Asian company to

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join that exclusive $500 billion

club. Its only other members being

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Apple, Alphabet, Microsoft, Amazon

and Facebook. Many viewers are

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probably unfamiliar with Tencent

because the bulk of its success

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comes from within China. As you

mentioned, it is China's biggest

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social network and online gaming

company but the crown jewel is its

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messaging service, WeChat which is

WhatsApp but on steroids, both have

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about 1 million users but an WeChat,

you can pay bills, order food and

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hail a taxi so whether always can

duplicate its success is where

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remains to be seen but its recent

investment in snatch at might be key

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to that. -- in Snapchat.

Let's have

a look at the markets, easyJet 9.7

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up -- Oenone Wood is set up on the

passenger numbers. Let's see if we

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can get the markets. Count to three

committee we go, they are there now.

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This reflects how Europe has started

this morning, not very encouraging

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when you think of the Asian markets,

the Hang Seng on a 10-year high in

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Hong Kong again and also the Dow

Jones last night was going along

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pretty nicely. But Europe, a rather

disappointing start.

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May be that reflect the increased

political risk.

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Michael Hewson is chief market

analyst as CMC Markets.

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Good morning. What do you think? The

collapse of German government

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coalition talks has raised the

spectre again that we thought had

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been put to bed with the election of

Emmanuel Macron.

Yeah, and I think

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fractious European politics is

nothing new but now it appears to

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have spread to Germany and we saw

the Dax rebounding yesterday after

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ending last week lower, there was a

perception Germany would get past

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this but the fact Angela Merkel

feels it necessary to call an

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election throws a host of new

uncertainties out there and the

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likelihood is this political

gridlock is likely to move into next

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year. Part of the rebound of the Dax

yesterday was mastered by the fact

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that VW announced a significant

infrastructure boost to German

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factories which is why it rebounded

but I think political uncertainty is

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going to make it very difficult, not

only for Germany to return to a

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stable political climate but it is

also going to complicate the Brexit

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talks as well.

You talk about VW.

What exactly... They said they would

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invest in electric cars in

particular, quite a significant sum.

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It's a five-year plan and they will

be investing about 30- 40 billion

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euros between now and 2022 with 14

billion euros in German factories

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alone so it will have a significant

impact, not only in German factories

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but also the supply chain. That is

why you saw the Dax rebounding as

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strongly as it did yesterday, VW

shares closed up 4%, as did

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Portia's. -- Porsche was Mac.

Had

that not been announced yesterday,

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it makes you wonder how much further

we might have seen the falls.

I

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think that is why you are seeing a

tale of this morning. If there had

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been a substantial bounce to the

lower euro, we would have seen the

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Dax build on those gains but I think

it is going to be difficult for it

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to significantly move higher, given

it is fairly close to all-time highs

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anyway.

Michael, for now, thank you.

We will talk through the papers with

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you later.

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Still to come.

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The price of top tutoring: we'll

meet the 22-year-old founder

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of a company specialising

in education that's

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now worth millions.

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You're with Business

Live from BBC News.

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Kingfisher, Europe's largest home

improvement retailer,

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has reported a fall in sales.

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The company, which runs B&Q

and Screwfix in Britain,

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says weak sales in

France are to blame.

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Theo Leggett joins us live

from the Business Newsroom.

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The company announced a huge

restructuring plan a while back. Any

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sign it is reaping rewards.

At the

moment it is causing more problems

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than reaping rewards. This is the

early stages of a five-year plan an

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part of what it set out to do was to

rationalise the way Kingfisher

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bought products for its different

chains so B and screw fixed in the

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UK, Castorama an Brico Depot in

France and so on. At one point, very

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few of the products were sold across

different stores which was seen as

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being wasteful, they had nine

different purchasing teams, there

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was too much duplication so now they

are trying to get rid of that but

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the consequence has been that the

chain has been trying to sell off a

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lot of old product and has been

having a bit of trouble finding

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enough of the new product lines.

There's been a bit of what they call

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business disruption as a result. But

they say they are confident that in

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the years to come, this major

structural change will read big

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rewards.

France still clearly a

disappointing performance.

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Absolutely and we don't entirely

know why that is. About half of

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Kingfisher's business is done with

France through Castorama an Brico

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Depot and both of them have seen

like-for-like sales fall. Across the

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James Connor it is down by about 4%.

In the UK, it is more of a mixed

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picture, Brico Depot down about 2.5%

but Brico Depot, this monitor

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growing rapidly, saw its sales rise

10% so it is the shining light,

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doing well indeed so a mix picture

across the different businesses of

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what is quite a large retail group.

Thank you for joining us.

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There is some breaking news about

how the drugs firm Concordia

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overcharged the NHS by millions. The

Canadian drugs firm overcharged the

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NHS for an essential tried royed

drug. This is from the Competition

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and Markets Authority which

investigated how much the company

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was charging for those certain

tablets. Much more on the BBC live

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page.

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You're watching Business Live.

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Our top story - in the last set

of results with Carolyn McCall

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as chief executive, EasyJet has

reported record passenger

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numbers but a 17% fall

in annual pre-tax profits.

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Now making money from education.

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It's a fast-growing sector -

particularly in emerging economies.

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Last year, the global

education industry was worth

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$3.3 trillion with India,

China and the Middle East

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all strong growth areas.

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One company which has been able

to take advantage of the growing

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sector is the New Zealand-based firm

Crimson Education.

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Set up just four years ago

by a 18-year-old student, it's now

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worth more than $140 million and has

a network of more than 2,000

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tutors and mentors.

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Jamie Beaton, Founder and

CEO of Crimson Education.

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Now 22 I understand. Jamie, how have

you managed to set this up alongside

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your own education. You have set-up

this company now worth millions of

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dollars. How did you do that?

It has

been an incredible journey. I guess

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it came out of my personal

experience, growing up in New

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Zealand there weren't many students

heading overseas. My own experience

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navigating going to Harvard. From

there it lass been a brilliant team

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and amazing support. Frankly the

biggest thing has been the success

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of our students. How well we do for

our students drives the growth and

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it has been the incredible results.

You applied for and were accepted at

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25 universities?

Yes.

So, I presume

from that one thing you learnt apart

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from the fact that you can get in

wherever you like, there are

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different approaches for everywhere

you want to go which is the basis of

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what you are delivering?

Definitely.

I guess students are faced with a

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really challenging and complicated

decision today when they are

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navigating through university

choices. Every university degree is

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distinct and everyone has big

implications on your future. We

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really help our students navigating

what is the best programme for them

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anywhere in the world. Many students

are looking at US options and

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Singapore and domestic options here

in the UK.

I suppose, as well,

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different schools offer varying

degrees of help for their students

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depending on whether they are

private schools, state schools and

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what they can offer?

High schools do

a fantastic job of working for their

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students. The key thing is for the

career councillor, there is so much

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complexity. It is hard for any one

person to have all that content in

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mind. So our students work with the

teams and mentors, based around the

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world helping navigate the difficult

choices.

Some are under graduates. I

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can see the attraction for a bit of

extra cash, but others, they have

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gone through the process. They are

in jobs as well. They are still

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willing to be mentors?

Yes, so our

network is incredibly diverse. We

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have got over 2,000, that includes

season educated experts. One of our

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team, Kevin Simm got students into

Oxbridge and bridge and many have

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won gold medals. So there is a huge

diversity in the age and background

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of the mentors. The key thing is the

high calibre.

How does the mentoring

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take place? Is it via Skype, or face

time or do the mentors meet the

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students in person?

It is a blended

mix. We think that's the most

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effective combination. We have built

an online classroom experience for

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our students that let's them road

map their future and plan the

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different years of university. They

can work with their mentors online

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and share resources, but we have in

person delivery in London for our

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students.

This is not something you

pick up when you start revising and

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say help me get through this. This

is a long-term strategic view for

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youngsters to take, maybe a couple

of years even?

Absolutely.

And

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that's going to cost?

Yes. I guess

the key thing is many of our

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students are signing up when they

are 13, 14, 15 with the view that

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they are going to spend multiple

years in high school. The key thing

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for us is to unpick their interests.

This is another example how you just

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have to be wealthy to access the

best education. Surely, it's not

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really fair for those people who

can't afford your fees?

I disagree

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with that. One thing we are focussed

on at Crimson is access. So any

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student can apply and get funding

for our programmes and we are

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committed to making sure whatever

students have the potential to go

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overseas do that and we have do that

through our platform Crimson hub. We

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are really trying to improve the

base and level of access for anyone

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in any country going through the

journey.

Give us an idea of what it

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would cost? I need two years of help

to get through and to get to my

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dream university. What's that going

to set me back?

£3,000 to £10,000

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for an annual programme. It is

personalised so some students come

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to us, they have one mentor that

helps them with a specific

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application and in other cases it is

a four year intensive programme.

It

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is a good little earner for the

mentors who are at university I

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suppose who don't have to work in a

bar, they can work on Skype. I'm

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glad you have come along after my

boys left university. That's another

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bank of dad it sounds like to me.

It

is important you are investing in

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education and all that money on your

degree on the best programme. Many

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of our students get financial aid.

In many cases our fees are paid for

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by the scholarships.

Thank you very

much.

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Michael is back to

look at the papers.

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We will talk about the Brexit talks

and this headline in the papers

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today that apparently there is going

to be an up in the offer for the

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divorce bill?

Yes, interesting.

Interesting dynamic that because I

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think with the Budget tomorrow, I

think it's increasingly obvious that

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the Chancellor is very

cash-strapped. So I think where to

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the Budget it will be difficult for

him to do anything. Given the fact

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that there is talk that the offer is

going to be upped. Contingent on

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parallel trade talks by another 20

billion euros.

20 billion euros.

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That's a good question, it might be

sterling.

I think that's in the

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negotiation! Nothing is agreed until

everything is greed. I think this

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will be a tough sell for some in the

Conservative Party. When you've got

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widespread austerity that we're

going to stump up 40 billion euros.

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We don't know what the end result is

going to be.

Boris Johnson has gone

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from go whistle to something for

something. So there is shifting

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there.

There is shifting, but you've

got to look at it from the EU's

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side. Michel Barnier yesterday

suggested that ultimately they may

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not get what they want with respect

to parallel trade talks in the Irish

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border issue is resolved to their

satisfaction.

We have headlines

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saying no matter what divorce bill

is agreed and where the trade talks

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start, banks in particular,

financial services firms will start

0:24:450:24:49

moving staff abroad because it's too

late?

Well, from what Michel Barnier

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said, UK banks are going to lose

their passporting rights. So it's

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good planning to have some

contingency in place within the EU

0:24:570:25:03

for any business that you need to do

within the EU. So, given the

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shambolic nature of this

government's Brexit negotiations and

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the lack of any real opposition to

them...

I really want to bring in

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this last story about the turkeys

waiting for a pardon in the United

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States. They are waiting in a hotel

room. Look at this! There they are.

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They have had a luxury wait for the

turkeys in Washington.

I hope

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President Trump is not expecting a

thank you from them otherwise he

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will spend the next 14 hours

shouting at them.

Ray Grant saying

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he is not going to be eating turkey.

He will be watching football with

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his family and friends.

Sounds like

a plan.

Thank you very much.

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Those turkeys have come from

Minnesota this year, but which one

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will get the pardon. Only one is

going back to Minnesota. We will see

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what happens. That's it from

Business Live today. Thank you for

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being with us.

Thank you, goodbye.

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