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This is Business Live from BBC News,

I'm Ben Thompson in London,

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and I'm Sally Bundock in Davos

at the World Economic Forum.

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Optimism about the global economy

is at its highest level in years

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according to the world's

top business leaders.

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Live from Davos and London,

that's our top story

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on Tuesday 23rd January.

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Despite that pick-up in the global

economy the US approves

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controversial tariffs on Chinese

solar panels and South

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Korean washing machines.

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We'll get the latest

live from Shanghai.

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Also today: UK regulators

block Fox's bid to buy

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satellite broadcaster Sky -

it throws the $16bn deal into doubt.

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And markets power to new highs

after the US government deadlock

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is resolved for now.

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We'll assess what happens next.

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And with India's Prime Minister

Narendra Modi the keynote speaker

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here at Davos today, we get the

inside track from atop Indian boss

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who leads an IT services company to

find out what he is hoping for. As

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usual, we want you to be a part of

the conversation. As global leaders

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in politics and business gather here

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Hello and welcome to Business Live.

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The prospects for the global economy

are at their brightest for nearly a

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decade. That is the view of business

leaders and the International

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monetary fund. They have both

launched their latest forecasts at

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the World Economic Forum getting

underway in Davos. It is the

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get-together of the top business

leaders and politicians in the

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world. What are the latest figures

say? The IMF has raised its growth

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predictions for the year to come and

next year. They have raised them to

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3.9%. It says that reflects growing

momentum, and President Trump's

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recent tax cuts have given the

economy a boost. IMF says that

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optimism is being felt around the

world, 120 countries, representing

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75% of the world economy, are

expected to see stronger growth in

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2017. Business leaders have noticed

that 57% of the world's top bosses

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think that growth will improve in

the next year, according to a

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survey. That has been reflected on

stock markets oblate around the

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world, setting new record highs

since last year's Davos gathering.

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Let's had there now. Sally is

braving the cold. Normally when

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we're talking about Davos, it is

about how we repair the world

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economy, but this time, the message

is very much, it is on the men.

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Absolutely. That's definitely the

message we've had so far here. You

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talked about what the IMF had to say

about the outlook for 2018, on top

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of that, you have mentioned the

survey from PWC about business

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leaders being the most optimistic

they have been for years. Here, they

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are well aware of the challenges we

are facing. In fact, the theme is

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all about how to create an

environment where we are sharing in

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terms of trade, expertise, in our

fractured world. When they talk

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about the fractures in the world at

the moment, there are lots of

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issues, of course, but the main one

is the thinking about the US and the

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actions of President Donald Trump.

Today, we have already seen some

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action in terms of protectionism,

you could call it - fresh tariffs

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slapped on steel products coming out

of Asia, and pretty substantial

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tariffs, too. Let's get more detail

on that from Robin Brant in

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Shanghai. Interesting, Donald Trump

will be heading to Davos in just a

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few days, and here, the talk is all

about global trade, and yet,

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barriers are going up.

Yes, they

are, and President Trump is living

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up to his campaign promises. For the

next four years, we have tariffs on

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solar panel goods going from China

into the US, with a 30% tariff.

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Washing machines coming out of South

Korea, $1 billion a year in trade,

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will face tariffs of up to 50% going

into the US. This looks like, and it

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is, the beginning of a trade war

between the United States and its

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long-term ally, South Korea, and its

rival, as you might describe it,

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China. The Chinese Government won't

be surprised. A campaign promise,

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but in reaction, it has expressed

its strong dissatisfaction at Donald

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Trump, saying it believes the US is

now a threat to the international

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trading system. Will it hit the

Chinese solar panel industry? Well,

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it is their biggest in the world,

but there is a glut in supply and it

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is likely that the slight will be

picked up by manufacturers outside

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of China, perhaps in places like

Malaysia. It is no doubt it will

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have an effect on Chinese

manufacturers. One slight irony,

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this time last year, China's leader

was in Davos is trying to be the

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champion of global trade. That is

something some people think he

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achieved. Some people think Donald

Trump is helping him to achieve it.

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OK, Robin. Thank you very much

indeed. Add very interesting story

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developing on that front today. More

analysis on that. Kamal is with us

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in Davos. Robin just making the

point that last year, the big

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keynote speaker was President Xi Jin

Ping. This year, we are talking

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about Donald Trump, and the two of

them are in a spat about steel.

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These increased tariffs set up the

arrival of President Trump on

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Friday. As you say, what a contrast

with this time last year, Xi Jin

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Ping talking about globalisation. He

is the first president to visit the

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economic forum since 2000 and Bill

Clinton. Will he be telling the

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world comedy with America's wait

while we will go it alone? From what

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we have seen today, it looks like he

will be heavy on protectionism and

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the America- first time. A pretty

aggressive message for the

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delegates.

It is interesting,

because among the speakers today, we

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have the prime minister of Canada,

Justin Trudeau, and we are hearing

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about steel tariffs being slapped on

Asian economies today, but the North

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American Free Trade Agreement is a

big issue, and we know that

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President Trump is talking about

renegotiating that completely. It is

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all about these trade agreements

around the world that are being

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renegotiated or completely changed.

You're right. I think from Prime

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Minister Trudeau line from the

renderer Modi -- Narendra Modi, you

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will get a different message from Xi

Jin Ping last year, which was that

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globalisation was the way to lift

people out of poverty and create

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global growth. President Trump is

going on a different line. He says

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that being aggressive on

protectionism means that he can

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protect American jobs. And so far,

the jobs market in America has been

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very strong. The upgrade of US

growth has been strong, though not

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the strongest in the world. So there

is this division in approach, and I

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think that sets up the big tension,

the big debate, at the World

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Economic Forum, which we will see

played out over the next few days.

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Kamal, thank you very much indeed.

That is it from us just for the time

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being. I will rejoin you in a few

minutes.

Thank you very much, Sally.

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We will be back with you in a moment

or two.

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Let's take a look at some of

the other stories making the news.

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Low cost airline easyJet

says revenues are up

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14% to £1.1 billion -

that's just over $1.5bn -

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for the last three

months of last year.

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Its cost per seat -

a key measure of performance -

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had fallen by 1.6% thanks to lower

fuel costs and cutting other costs.

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Passenger numbers were

also up at 1.4 million.

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The boss said that was

because they were offering "better

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quality options" to their customers.

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The world's second largest retailer,

Carrefour, plans to cut 2,400 jobs

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and expand its e-commerce business.

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The company will invest $3.4 billion

in its online platform amid fierce

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competition with Amazon.

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Carrefour has also announced that it

will partner with the Chinese

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internet giant Tencent.

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Bacardi will buy tequila maker

Patron in a deal worth around

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$5 billion as it looks to expand

in the US and cash in the growing

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taste for the Mexican spirit.

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Sales of tequila have been

climbing in recent years,

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while other alcohols like vodka

and brandy have

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fallen in popularity.

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The deal will make Barcardi

the second largest spirit company

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in the United States.

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The UK's Competition regulator has

ruled that Fox's proposed

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takeover of Sky is not

in the public interest.

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It says the deal would give

the Murdoch family too much control

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over news providers in the UK.

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Andrew Walker is following

the story for us.

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Andrew, we were waiting for this

ruling, won't we? It is an

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interesting one, and they say it is

not in the public interest?

The

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Competition and Markets Authority

looked at this proposed takeover.

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One basis was broadcasting

standards, and it was happy with the

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implication standards. But on the

question of media plurality, it was

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not. It takes the view that the

Murdoch family would have access to

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about 30% of the UK audience, and it

regarded that as excessive. It

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proposes a number of possible

remedies, not coming down in favour

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of any particular option at this

stage. One is to prohibit the deal.

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Another is to look at the idea of

spinning off Sky News, and a third

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one is what it calls a behavioural

remedy, which would be some sort of

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system for ring fencing Sky News

from the rest of the Murdoch

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business.

Andrew, thanks very much.

I know you will stay across that

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story for us. In the early minutes

of trade, Sky shares are unmoved by

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that.

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Tokyo's Nikkei index closes

at a 26-year-high in Tokyo,

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after Wall Street powered to another

set of records following a deal

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to end the US government shutdown.

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Investors confident the deal

will keep the government

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funded in the short term,

and it's unlikely to have a lasting

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impact on the US economy.

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That is the current state of play in

Europe. We have had an update one

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networks overnight, saying that

subscriber numbers are up even

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though it has raised its prices.

If

you have heard of The Crown And

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Stranger Things, They Are Part Of

The Reason Why Networks Profits Are

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Soaring. The Streaming Service Has

Been Investing More Money In

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Original Programming, Meaning It Is

Short On Cash.

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In The Last Three Months, Networks

Added More International Subscribers

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than it expected, more than 6

million. It added more than 8

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million subscribers globally.

Networks is now worth about $100

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billion and has more subscribers

than other streaming services like

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Amazon, which means is only a media

company with deep pockets could

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really compete with networks.

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Never a truer word spoken - deep

pockets to take on networks.

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Joining us is Trevor Greetham,

head of multi-asset

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at Royal London Asset Management.

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Things are on the up. Yesterday,

markets didn't move a huge amount.

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They thought, we have seen a US

shutdown before, we're not too

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bothered, but they like it now that

it is over.

The American stock

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market is up 25% year on year now.

Is it just moved over the 25% mark.

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The markets like the strong global

growth we have been hearing about

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from Kamal and the IMF, so we have a

strong global picture, but at the

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moment, inflation is low. The

question for 2018 is whether

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inflation will spoil the party.

Let's bring in Sally from Davos.

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Hello to both of you in your cosy,

one studio! I wanted to but in,

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Trevor, at this point. Nice to see

you. I wanted to ask you about that

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issue and what Kamal was saying, but

also, it was surprising how

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optimistic business leaders are, the

1300 that PwC spoke to all over the

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world. They spoke to those business

leaders before the US tax reforms

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were cleared and agreed upon, and

yet, they are talking about hiring

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and investing. The majority of them

are extremely optimistic. Your take

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on that?

It's not that surprising,

because you have very low interest

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rates, and you have this big tax cut

in terms of the headline corporation

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tax rate, the biggest in American

history. At the moment, it looks

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like this expansion can continue. It

is an eight and a half year

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expansion, making it the longest in

history, and if inflation doesn't

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pick up this year in a big way,

interest rates will stay low and it

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will carry on. It could even

challenge the 1990s, which was a

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10-year expansion. The question is

whether tax cuts create inflation,

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and whether the slowdown in China,

which is not getting much coverage,

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pulse commodity prices down again

and gives us a breather for another

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year or two.

It will be one to

watch, how long that sugar Rush can

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continue. Trevor, thanks very much

for now. Sally, you've got a guest

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there in Davos.

I do. Indeed I will

be talking to the Chief Executive of

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a company. We have got the Prime

Minister of India as the keynote

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speaker here today. It is the first

time an Indian Prime Minister has

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been here for a few years. We want

to know what are the top bosses in

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India looking for from those in

charge of India? See you soon.

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You're with Business Live from the

BBC.

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UK bookmakers are bracing

themselves for a hit later

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when the Government concludes

a review into tackling

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problem gambling.

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Shares in bookmakers William Hill

and Ladbrokes Coral slumped

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yesterday on reports

that the maximum bet on some

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gambling machines could be cut

from £100 to just £2.

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Richard Hunter is head of markets

at Interactive Investor.

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Richard, talk us through this. The

Government says we need to clamp

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down on problem gambling. This is

the way they think they can do it by

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reducing the amount people can

spend.

It is around fixed odds

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betting terminals which are in place

in shops around the country. At the

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moment the maximum stake is £100.

There has been a government

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consultation is it will be curcts

but it could be anywhere between £2

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and £50 which is an extremely large

spread. There was a report in a

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newspaper at the weekend suggesting

that actually it was the £2 end of

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the spectrum that we should be

expecting and so the share prices of

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the likes of Ladbrokes and Coral and

William Hill took a beating. The

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estimation is should this go

through, ie the £2 level it could

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take around 25% of both of their

revenues.

It is an emotive issue

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this, isn't it? Clearly the betting

firms are ones that really cash in

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on people that maybe shouldn't be

spend that money, can't afford to

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spend that money and that's where

they make their profits?

Yes, that's

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right. There has been similar moves

in Australia which is of interest to

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William Hill for example where the

ability to lend on credit so that

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you could gamble is now a loophole

they are trying to shut. Obviously

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from the bookmakers point of view in

the UK, what they are arguing is

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that should the £2 levy be

introduced directly that will affect

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a great number of betting shops

around the UK, they will need to

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close which obviously will result in

the loss of a number of jobs and a

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lesser tax take for the Treasury.

Richard, thank you for explaining

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that. It is one we will watch

closely and shares actually in the

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two biggest in the UK actually

opening up marginally at the moment.

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I want to show you news on the

Business Live page. There is further

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deals about the Sky deal. It raises

questions too for the proposed deal

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with Disney. The full details are

there on the website.

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You're watching Business Live.

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I'm Sally Bundock.

I'm Ben Thompson

in London.

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Our top story: The United States has

approved controversial tariffs

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on Chinese solar panel

and South Korean washing machines.

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Both countries have

criticised the tariffs.

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Sally talking about the growth

forecast for the world economy being

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upgraded off the back of the tax cut

in the United States. A quick flash

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at how the markets in Europe are

faring in early trade. The boost on

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Wall Street after the deadlock in

the United States was broken with a

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last minute deal yesterday. We see

markets following the lead of Wall

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Street and indeed, Asia, opening up

pretty sharply.

Now, let's take a

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look at today's events in Davos. The

keynote speaker today, in a few

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hours, is the Prime Minister of

India. How critical is it to Indian

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businesses that he is present here

at Davos? Well, I'm joined by it the

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Chief Executive of an IT services

company in India. Welcome to

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Business Live. So, how important do

you think it is that the Indian

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Prime Minister does come to Davos,

the first time for many, many years

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that an Indian Prime Minister has

been here.

I think Prime Minister

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Modi represents the new set of

ambition for India, aspirations of

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India and he is now the leader of

almost 300 CEOs and politicians and

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NGOs and different parts of the

Indian society, 300 plus people who

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are here in Davos today. Who better

than Prime Minister Modi.

Now, he

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has been very sort of proactive

since he has come into power as

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Prime Minister in terms of talk

talking about trade with many global

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leaders, notably the likes of

Theresa May and others. Clearly,

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he's keen to do global trade deals.

To what extent do you feel his

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presence here this year is

overshadowed by that of US President

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Donald Trump who is coming in a few

days' time and of course, Trump

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today announcing new tariffs?

You

know, the reality is that I think

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the two book ends of Davos, the

beginning has been done by Prime

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Minister Modi and the closing would

be done by President Trump. We

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couldn't have had a better Davos, so

the delegates, I can only say,

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getting President Trump here,

talking about his own tax reforms,

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his own policies and the road ahead

and particularly as we know he's

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going to do a lot of investment in

infrastructure, he is coming in

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towards the end and Prime Minister

Modi...

You are a global company. I

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mean you work over the world, in

Sweden, in Switzerland, the United

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States, Italy and Israel to name a

few. How concerned are you about the

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actions of the United States in

terms of putting up tariffs. Today

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we are hearing about tariffs on

Asian steel products, but are you

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worried that this could sort of set

a wave of protectionism across the

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globe?

That global trade has always

had some entry barriers. I mean WTO

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has succeeded, but not fully

succeeded. That we have always seen

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is anti-dumpling duties in the

previous regimes also. That current

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President Trump wants to use his

muscle to negotiate better

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agreements in global trade. They are

being upfront and they are more

0:22:460:22:49

vocal about it. I am concerned, but

I would not say that it is not in

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the best interest of the US to allow

Indian visa holders.

And what are

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you hoping to gain from being here

yourself? What does this event mean

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for you and your company?

Many

things. Number one is being able to

0:23:090:23:13

interact and you know, make sure

that the vision is alined with the

0:23:130:23:23

other powerful, if not, all, but at

least 100 odd CEOs that I will

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interact with.

All right. So there

is a lot you want to achieve and we

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must let you get on with that, but

thank you for taking the time to

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talk to us on Business Live. The CEO

of a IT company.

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Trevor Greetham from

Royal London Asset Management

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is joining us again to discuss.

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This is a backlash against social

networks?

The big tech companies,

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they are used to being the

disruptors of the status quo, they

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have become so big now that they

have become the status quo and they

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are having to spend money on

removing offensive content and there

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are a lot of things that are

challenging them, but they are

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growing rapidly.

I suppose the

backlash is on so many sides. It is

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about what we use the social

networks for and whether people are

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using them for the wrong reasons,

spreading extremist content, but

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things like tax and that's where it

really hits them?

It does. The fact

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that most of the big entrepreneurs

of big tech say things like, "I

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don't let my children use Facebook."

." They are going through an

0:24:370:24:42

interesting phrase of development,

but there is more to come from them.

0:24:420:24:46

A quick look at this We Work. It has

become Central London's biggest

0:24:460:24:55

occupier.

This is people just

wanting to hire a desk and these

0:24:550:25:01

companies like We Work are buying up

office buildings and renting out

0:25:010:25:08

desks. You can't tell how much spare

capacity there is in the office

0:25:080:25:12

market in London because these guys

buy it up and maybe their buildings

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are half empty, we don't know.

Trevor, Todd for explaining that. It

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is one we'll keep a close eye on.

Sally, we have been asking what

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people like to see changed in Davos.

Bob says climate change and I bet

0:25:270:25:31

you feel that in the cold there.

Another viewer says inequality. What

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are people talking about there?

Inequality is a big issue on the

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agenda particularly when it comes to

women empowerment and getting more

0:25:400:25:46

people in the workforce, but you

will hear from me in the hours ahead

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so I will talk some more about that

later.

Stay warm. Nice to see you.

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See you back here very soon. From

all of us on the team, thank you for

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watching. Have a great day. Bye-bye.

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