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This is Business Live from BBC News.

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I'm Ben Bland in London.

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And I'm Sally Bundock in Davos,

at the World Economic Forum.

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Could Europe be set

for a big pay rise?

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Germany's biggest union demands

an inflation-busting deal

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for millions of workers.

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Live from London and Davos,

that's our top story

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on Wednesday 24th January.

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The industrial workers union

normally sets the tone

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for pay across Germany -

but will they end up

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helping the Eurozone wind

down its stimulus programme?

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Also in the programme...

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Full steam ahead for

the Pacific's free trade deal.

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Australia welcomes the new deal

that's been reached a year

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after the United States withdrew.

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Of climate change. I will be talking

to the boss of the world's biggest

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wind energy producer, who is here in

Davos. And we want you to be a part

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of the conversation.

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As quitting smartphones is described

as the new "quitting smoking"

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in the FT, we're asking,

are you addicted to your device?

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And if you quit your smartphone,

what would you miss most?

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Let us know - just

use the #BBCBizLive.

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That's an easy question, I would

miss your tweets the most!

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Hello and welcome to Business Live.

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As Europe's biggest economy Germany

often sets the tone for what's

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happening across the rest

of the continent.

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And a big pay increase could be

on the cards if Germany's biggest

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trade union, IG Metall, gets its way

in the latest round of talks

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with the industrial manufacturers

that are the bedrock of the economy.

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IG Metall represents

about 2.3 million workers and wants

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an above inflation 6% pay rise.

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The other key demand

is the flexibility of switching

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to a 28-hour working week.

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The union is threatening

more strikes.

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But one of the big concerns

for companies is that unemployment

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is at a record low 3.6%,

so they're worried there won't be

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enough staff to fulfil all orders

if those workers have the option

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of less hours.

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Unemployment has also been falling

across the rest of the Eurozone

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as the global economy continues

to pick up, so workers

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are in a strong position

to demand higher wages.

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If they get them, it

could prove helpful for meeting

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the European Central Bank's target

inflation rate of just below 2%.

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They've been struggling

to do that, but moving

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forward, it will help them

unwind their stimulus programme.

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With me is Karl Brenke,

an economist at the German Institute

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for Economic Research -

he joins us from Berlin.

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So, if these demands are met, what

do you think the impact would be on

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the German economy and the wider

European economy?

Last year the

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great unions, we have had wage

increase of about 2%. And the

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inflation rate in Germany is nearly

2%. And therefore we have no

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increase in real

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2%. And therefore we have no

increase in real wages. On the other

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hand the companies had a good

business last year and therefore I

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think higher wages are necessary,

and in my opinion, the increase must

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be 4% or more. And I think it is

important that we have a push for

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the business cycle inside Germany,

for the domestic demand here.

And

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how damaging do you think these

strikes would be?

Yes, strikes in

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Germany! I think most of our leaders

of the great unions know strikes

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only from history! I don't think we

will have strikes a! So, what do you

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think as the rest of Europe watches

this round going on between unions

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and the manufacturers, as I have

mentioned, which form the bedrock of

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the German economy - do you think

there will be any discomfort

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elsewhere at how this is unfolding

or not? Of course. We have a good

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employment situation, and therefore,

the trade unions are in a strong

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position. And I think it would be

good also for the other countries of

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the Eurozone if we will have higher

wages in the manufacturing, because

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in the last year's, from Germany, in

the last year's there was a pressure

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from Germany to other countries

because of too slow wage increase.

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So, you think that if they get their

wages increases in Germany, we could

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see wage increases across the rest

of the continent?

I don't

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understand?

So, if they get these

wage rises in Germany, do you think

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that would be reflected by wage

rises elsewhere in Europe?

No. I

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think we have a special situation in

Germany. We have nearly full

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employment, and if I compare the

situation with the South, I think

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there are others which will have not

such an increase in other countries,

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like Greece or Spain. I think in

Germany, a stronger wage increase is

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necessary, but not in the south of

Europe.

Karl Brenke from the German

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Institute for Economic Research,

thank you very much indeed. If you

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wanted a theme for the day at Davos,

as opposed today would be Europe

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day. Angela Merkel and other

European leaders will be there,

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Sally?

Yes, there's more heads of

state this year than there have been

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for many years. We have got a

helicopter just above us and I think

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that is delivering a guest, a

delegate who is arriving! US

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president Donald Trump will be

arriving by helicopter tomorrow

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morning. So, it is all going on

here. It is interesting to hear your

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guest Karl Brenke, I wonder if

Angela Merkel was listening to him

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as well as a man of course BBC World

News is broadcasting here in Davos,

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and she is here and she is preparing

to deliver her special address to

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all those who are gathered here for

the World Economic Forum. And I

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would imagine many will be wondering

what she will have to say when she

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has so much going on in Germany,

with the dispute between IG Metall

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and businesses, but also, of course,

trying to form a coalition

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government. So, a very busy day here

in Davos. We have got her and

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Emmanuel Macron speaking later as

well as the Italian Prime Minister.

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Back to you.

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Let's take a look at some of

the other stories making the news.

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US Senators have approved

President Trump's choice

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of Jerome Powell for the next chair

of the US central bank,

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the Federal Reserve.

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The man taking over the world's most

powerful job in economics

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is a Republican who is seen to back

low interest rates.

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The former lawyer is expected

to take over from Janet Powell

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The former lawyer is expected

to take over from Janet Yelen

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at the beginning of next month.

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The boss of Ikea Group has told

the BBC that the company pays

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its fair share of tax worldwide.

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Speaking in Davos,

Jesper Brodin said the Swedish

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furniture giant thinks

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it is "important to contribute

to society in many ways

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and paying tax is one of them".

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EU tax officials opened

an investigation last

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month into Inter Ikea -

a seperate part of Ikea, which

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controls the company's brand rights.

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The entertainment giant Walt Disney

says it is giving 125,000 of its US

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staff a one-time bonus of $1,000.

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It's because of the tax reforms that

President Trump signed into law

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just before Christmas.

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The company also says

it is launching a $50 million

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education fund for staff on hourly

conditions, in order

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to help them earn degrees

and other qualifications.

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Australia's Prime Minister has

become the latest to welcome

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a big new trade deal.

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The Trans-Pacific Partnership covers

11 countries and received a major

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boost at Davos on Tuesday

when Canada confirmed it would join

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the deal, a deal which the US

pulled out of last year.

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Leisha Santorelli is in Singapore.

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Tell us more about what the

Australian Prime Minister had to

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say?

Well, Sally, after US President

Trump pulled America out of the TPP,

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many analysts said it was dead in

the water. But it was clearly just

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on life support because it has been

revived. Australia's Prime Minister

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has hailed the new deal, calling it

a multibillion-dollar windfall for

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his country. Australia along with

Japan was critical to convincing

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Canada and Justin Trudeau to return

to the table after he refused to

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finalise the TPP last year. However,

the critics and the Australian

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opposition leader say that without

the US trade deal has pretty much

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lost its shine and that there is a

lack of specifics, especially

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because the US it counts for 40% of

the global economy, but without it,

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just 13%. Earlier this month it was

reported that the UK was possibly

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looking to join the TPP, so who

knows, after Brexit, could replace

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the US?

Thanks very much to you

both.

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Asian share markets took a time out

on Wednesday as investors were left

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breathless at the breakneck pace

of recent gains, while a fresh burst

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of speculative selling took the US

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dollar to three-year

lows against the euro.

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Japan's Nikkei lost 0.8%,

though that was coming down

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from a 26-year high.

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That reflects the strengthening yen,

which hits Japanese exporters.

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The main stock markets across Europe

were steady at their open -

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none of them moving much

in either direction.

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The pound held above

$1.40 overnight.

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Investors were betting on tighter

monetary policies from central

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banks, bringing them in line with

the Federal reserve. It is a big day

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for corporate earnings here in the

US, among the many companies

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reporting results being General

Electric, which had to lay off

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thousands of people in 2017 and it

also changed its leadership as it

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tried to plug falling profits.

Investors will be keen to find out

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if rumours about the conglomerate

splitting into smaller parts are

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true. Ford Motor Company will also

announced results and its forecast

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for 2018. Many will be waiting to

hear what tax reforms will mean for

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the car-maker. Whirlpool is expected

to report an increase in revenue. It

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stands to benefit greatly from the

latest tariffs imposed on washing

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the genes in the US. There will be

interested to find out just how much

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the company thinks it could gain.

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Joining us is James Hughes,

Chief carket mnalyst at Axi Trader.

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Good to see you. Sup of the dollar

doing really interesting things -

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what is your take on what we're

seeing?

We're seeing some real big

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moves. The overall dollar index,

which isn't paired against other

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currencies, saw its biggest fall for

three years. So that is a big, big

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move. Dollar weakness has been

almost a hallmark of Donald Trump's

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presidency. We all talk about the

upside that we have seen in equity

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markets and the Dow Jones hitting

new landmarks pretty much every day,

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but the US dollar has been

particularly weak. If you couple

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that with the fact that we've had

slightly better stories out of the

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UK over Brexit, that is why you can

see sterling flying above 1.40

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against the dollar. Stories out of

Europe as well, and we have seen the

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bank of Japan, all positive for

their currency as well. Add that

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towards the negativity in the dollar

and it all gets confounded. It

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almost doesn't seem like a

continuation at the moment, it seems

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difficult to find any positivity for

the dollar at the moment, because it

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has been so aggressively lower.

As

you know, Sally is in Davos and I

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think she has got a question for

you?!

I have always got plenty of

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questions for James! What I wanted

to ask you, actually, is to what

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extent you and your colleagues are

watching what is going on here in

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Davos, because here we get a sense

that there's so much being said, so

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many announcements, a lot about

trade, for example, especially with

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Trump arriving tomorrow - are you

guys watching it or is it just

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business as usual this week for you?

We do keep and eye on it. It is an

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incredibly important weak. But I

don't think it necessarily causes

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too much in the way of a big change

to the way we work. It is seen as a

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lot of hot air sometimes over there.

It is a lot of political posturing,

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and the markets don't really care

for anything too political. However,

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when get so many heads of spray

state, Angela Merkel, Emmanuel

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Macron and Donald Trump etc, but is

where we will get much more focus on

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Davos.

Thank you very much, James.

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Still to come: Plenty more here from

the World Economic Forum. I will

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talk to the boss of the world's

biggest wind power energy supplier.

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That's just coming up later here on

business life.

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JD Wetherspoons reports a 6 %

increase in second quarter sales -

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and says the unexpected increase -

may lead to better than expected

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half year results Joining us now

is our business correspondent

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Theo Leggett - tell us more.

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As you say, like-for-like sales were

up 6%, and that is sales which are

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directly comparable with previous

quarters. Overall sales were only up

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4.3%, and that is because whether

spoons closed more pubs than it

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opened, and that took a little gloss

from the figures. Overall, sales

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have been better-than-expected,

meaning the first half results will

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be better-than-expected. That is a

good thing this week because the

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company has also had a bit of

embarrassment. Last night was

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supposed to be steak night and due

to a supplier problem, the stakes

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are to be recall, so customers were

offered things like quinoa and the

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Leumi salad. That has generated

headlines like this. Other than

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that, the company is doing well but

it does not know if it can sustain

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that in the rest of the year.

Have

they said anything about the

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company's performance going forward?

There are factors that may have an

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impact. For example, increases in

the minimum wage and the sugar tax

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may push up costs. The World Cup

happens in the second half of the

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year, which is unpredictable. When

home nations do well, people pour

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into the pubs, one to watch the game

and buy a lot of food and drink and

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someone. If the home teams go out

early, it's not so good. That makes

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things a little unpredictable. One

area that isn't such an issue is

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Brexit. The chief executive of

whether spoons is a renowned

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enthusiasm Brexit and he says that

even if there is no deal with the

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EU, that doesn't mean prices will go

up or anything like that. He's very

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positive about the future.

Thank you

very much. As always, plenty more on

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our website. Just go to BBC .co .uk/

business. On there right now,

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details about calls for road pricing

tailored to drivers based on factors

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like the time of day and congestion.

Read more about that report. You can

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also breed it via the BBC News app.

-- you can also read it on their BBC

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news app.

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You're watching Business Live.

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Our top story:

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Critical talks get under way later

between Germany's biggest trade

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union and employers. The trade union

is demanding a 6% pay rise. Could

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this lead to inflation busting pay

deals across Europe?

Speaking about

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Europe, let's check on the markets.

All of them down to a greater or

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lesser extent. At the bottom of the

screen, currency markets, the pound

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holding above $1 40.

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Climate change is a big topic for

discussion here at the World

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Economic Forum at Davos. Plenty have

been talking about responsibility to

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do more around the world to tackle

the issue. I am joined by a

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representative of the world's

biggest wind energy producer.

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Welcome to the programme. Among

those who have been appealing to

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governments around the world to do

more about the issue of climate

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change is Christine Lagarde, the

managing director of the IMF. Her

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argument is, whilst the sun is

shining, fix the roof. This is the

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area where Governments need to

share. What is your take?

The last

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20 years, we have already invested

more than $100 billion in

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renewables. In Britain we closed all

of our coal powered plants. My

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position is very clear. 195

countries have already signed an

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agreement to do everything necessary

to protect the world and diminish

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climate change emissions. The time

is over and we need to take actions.

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When you say 185 countries, you are

repairing to the Paris climate

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change agreement which the United

States has said this is not happy

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with. It may withdraw or want

changes to it. What impact has that

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had to its relevance?

When you talk

about the United States, you talk

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about the American administration.

It is true that the administration

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has decided to withdraw from the

Paris agreement, but I think that

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there is an alliance of different

cities promoting all the necessary

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for diminishing emissions. The

business in the country will

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continue investing heavily, and I

think many large corporations are

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already signing contracts with us

because they would like to secure

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clean energy for the future.

To what

extent was the announcement of US

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tariffs on steel products coming out

of Asia, what impact does that have

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on the trade of these goods? Where

do you source a lot of your steel

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for the wind turbines that you guys

provide?

Most of them are produced

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in the United States, and we have

using established companies. It is a

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protection for the American solar

panel industry. We have bought some

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from America in the past.

From your

perspective, and you deal with

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governments all over the world, what

is the biggest obstacle to

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significant progress in this area?

Always our investment is long-term.

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We are investing for 40-60 years. We

need stable regulation, predictable

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and maintaining the rules. When

countries change the rules,

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introducing an intervention,

automatically opposes a risk, and

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the flow of investment diminish. We

require predictability and a legal

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framework that will be respected.

Thank you so much for being on the

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programme. Back to you.

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James is back. We will look at our

story in the FT talking about why

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people are quitting these.

Apparently we are so addicted to our

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devices. Can we actually live

without them?

This is the whole

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point. I think it's becoming such a

part of life now that people are

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becoming more addicted to them

rather than just using them on the

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off chance. One of the interesting

things it says here is that it

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compares it to junk food. You know

it's not particularly good for you

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but you do enjoy it when you are

there. You know you shouldn't do it

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all of the time. That is the feeling

we have with smartphones. There is

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so much on a smartphone now that we

have to live with. You have to check

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e-mails for work, there is all sorts

of different things, but of course,

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the argument in the article is that

we don't actually need any of these

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things. We got on pretty well

beforehand and we will get on

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afterwards if we don't have to use

these. It is the classification of

0:24:320:24:37

these companies, very much like the

cigarette companies used to be in

0:24:370:24:40

the 90s, that the tobacco industry.

These companies are being

0:24:400:24:46

categorised as big tech, and

investors are saying, we want you to

0:24:460:24:49

do something about the addictive

nature or how many people are

0:24:490:24:53

becoming addicted to these devices,

to make sure it doesn't have a

0:24:530:24:56

knock-on effect on mental health,

the same way happened with big

0:24:560:25:01

tobacco in the 90s.

James, thank you

very much indeed. Thank you for all

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the messages you have sent. We have

been having a look through those. We

0:25:050:25:10

will go through them a little later.

I want to bring some breaking news,

0:25:100:25:17

and we join Sally in Davos.

Thank

you. We're hearing through Reuters

0:25:170:25:23

news agency that they are quoting

Wilbur Ross, who is here, the US

0:25:230:25:29

commerce secretary, saying, trade

war is a thought every single day.

0:25:290:25:36

That is a quote coming from Reuters.

He is here. The US president arrives

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here tomorrow. That is all from me

for now.

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That's it from Business Live today.

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