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This is Business Live from BBC News,

I'm Alice Baxter in London.

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And I'm Sally Bundock in Davos

at the World Economic Forum.

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Today the President takes the

podium. He will be delivering his

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message about America first. But how

will it go down with the 3000

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delegates.

Live from London and Davos that's

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our top story on Friday 26th of

January.

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The US President was wooing bosses

of the world's biggest companies

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over dinner last night

but will his speech be a receipe

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for more investment?

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Also in the programme:

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Both the UK and the US give

us their latest economic

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growth numbers today,

we'll look at what we

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can expect to see.

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Keeping across the latest market

action, in Europe they have opened

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up mixed, over in Asia we saw stocks

extend their winning run on Friday,

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and also it was a similar story on

Wall Street with a record closing

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high. We will get the inside track

on brand Trump. As the White House

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hijacked the media coverage of this

year's World Economic Forum? I will

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talk to the global Chief Executive

of the media and advertising agency

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Dentsu Aegis.

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Hello and welcome to Business Live.

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In just a few hours' time

the World Economic Forum in Davos

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will hear the speech they've been

waiting all week for.

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The US President Donald Trump

is expected to repeat his call

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for an America First approach

to international trade and call

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on businesses to invest

more in his country.

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Many of them will be concerned

about the rise of protectionism.

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But the Trump administration

says they shouldn't be.

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In the words of senior White House

economic advisor Gary Cohn: "America

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first is not America alone".

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And as the world's biggest economy

picked up last year so did

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the rest of the world.

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The International Monetary Fund

thinks global growth

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jumped to 3.7% last year -

and will do even better this year -

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partly because of

President Trump's tax cuts.

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However, last year, as talk

of protectionism grew,

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the world saw a 16% fall in foreign

direct investment, that's

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when companies invest their money

in foreign countries.

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In North America the fall

was even bigger at 33%.

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Despite that - the US

was still the most popular

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country to invest in -

attracting more than $300

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billion from abroad.

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Sally, over to you.

Thank you, Alice. It's been the talk

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of the week, the fact the President

of the United States has come here

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and he has come here with the

biggest delegation of any US

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President prior to this year at the

World Economic Forum. They have all

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come on message. They are all

talking the talk and they are all

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making sure that we in the media are

getting it very loud and very clear.

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Well, my colleague here, Kamal

Ahmed, economics editor, has been

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talking to all sorts of people at

the World Economic Forum, among them

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Larry Fink, Chief Executive of the

investment management firm Black

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Rock, and they did discuss Donald

Trump's presence here. Let's listen

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to what he had to say.

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I think he's been good for the US

economy and therefore it's been good

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for the global economy.

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I may disagree with

many things he has

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said and does but unquestionably

the tax reform is going

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to add, you know, at

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least nine tenths of

GDP to the US economy.

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Some of the deregulation that he has

done has created less

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burden on companies and companies

have been able to do more things.

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Do you worry about some of the more

protectionist noises that are coming

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from the American administration,

including the President?

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Is that a concern when

you have also got here

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the leaders talking

about globalisation and the need for

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multilateralism?

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So, I'm under the belief that

globalisation has been

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good for more human

beings than ever before.

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That does not mean that people have

not been left behind in

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the UK, or left behind in the US.

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For some of them, globalisation

has not been good.

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I think this is why we had Brexit,

I think this is why

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we have had the election

of Donald Trump.

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Donald Trump understood the fears

and needs of people.

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Do you hope for a more

conciliatory tone

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from the President when

he speaks on Friday?

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I'm not anticipating that.

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But hopefully he surprises me.

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I think the President

believes he has

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a mission to make America great

again and I think, you know, if you

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look at all of his behaviours,

he's trying to execute on that.

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Whether I agree or

disagree he is trying to

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execute on that.

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That's Larry Fink, the global Chief

Executive of Black Rock. Kamal is

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here. It's interesting, almost as if

you didn't know how to answer that

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question, he had to think about what

to say.

Interesting talking to

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business leaders here, a lot of

people last year when Chinese

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premier Xi Jinping was here were

very nervous about Donald Trump when

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he had just won. Was he going to

push through tax or regulation? This

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year the feeling is similar to Larry

Fink's tone, the economy has been

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boosted, tax reforms have been

passed, the regulation reforms are

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going through the system and the

whole global economy is starting to

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grow more quickly. So, for someone

like Larry Fink and my colleague

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Simon Jack who interviewed Lord

Black fine, the head of Goldman

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Sachs, they are saying you may not

agree with all of the politics and

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controversy but when it comes to the

brute economics President Trump has

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been pretty good for these people.

Let's bring in one of our other

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colleagues.

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Karishma Vaswani joins

us from Singapore.

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The reason I bring you in is because

I know you're listening to Kamal

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Ahmed and myself and Larry Fink, but

where you are its a totally

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different story, the tariffs on

steel products in Asia coming from

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the White House and the counter

response from South Korea.

Indeed,

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Sally, and all of this has to do

with exactly what you and Kamal

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Ahmed have been talking about, the

comments we expect to hear in this

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speech from Donald Trump in a few

hours' time, everyone in Asia is

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waiting to see whether he makes good

on this America first policy. Wheel

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that is or what appears to be the

first salvo in that policy, the

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tariffs you were talking about

earlier, Beijing and

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South Korea. Many factories in

Malaysia and other parts of Asia

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have also been complaining about

these tariffs because they make

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products that are assembled in China

and sold to the United States so

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with this official line is coming

out of Beijing there is a great deal

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of concern in this part of the world

about what Donald Trump will say and

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we will have to wait and see for

another few hours from now.

Thanks a

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lot, Karishma Vaswani. If I can

bring Kamal Ahmed back in, the

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conversations have been about a

smarter way of doing trade, a

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different way, the old system not

working as well, many in the world

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not feeling the benefit as it were.

All of this global growth, and yet

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Donald Trump talking about America

first, but that being a benefit to

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the world. It's an interesting

conversation going on.

It is

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slightly more nuanced than maybe

this notion that America is

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protectionist. As you said he has a

big entourage, he has Steven

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Mnuchin, the Treasury Secretary and

Wilbur Ross, the commerce secretary,

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and I spoke to them at their press

conference yesterday and they said

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it's not about protectionism or a

trade war, is about rebalancing

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trade. He says that trade has been

too asymmetric the way it has

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worked, so the disadvantage of

America, he is saying I want more of

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a level playing field and that's

what they are fighting for. The

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message today from Donald Trump when

he speaks later at lunchtime will

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be, look, this can help everybody,

let's have fairer trade, not trade

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wars, but some of that will mean

extra trade tariffs and that's where

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the controversy comes.

Kamal Ahmed,

thank you. We are going to let you

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go, he has an extremely busy day

ahead. Back to you, Alice, in the

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studio. Thank you, Sally, and your

guests Kamal Ahmed and Karishma.

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Let's take a look at some of

the other stories making the news.

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Smartphone sales have fallen in

China for the first time ever,

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according to analysts who say 450

million devices were sold last year,

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4% less than in 2016. Oppo and Vivo

were the biggest losers but Huawei

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has the biggest quarter in its home

market.

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The computing giant Intel says it

sales hit grew 9% last year to hit

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a record $62.8 billion

thanks to strong sales

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of chips to data centres.

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It's a key growth area as it moves

away from the declining PC industry.

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The company also benefitted

from President Trump's tax reforms

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but warned that it will be

negatively impacted by the two major

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computer chips flaws that

were recently uncovered

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in many of its products.

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Starbucks shares fell 5% on Thursday

after the coffee chain's first

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quarter earnings missed analysts

expectations - for the fifth

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quarter in a row.

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Starbuck's global same-store sales

rose 2% in the quarter

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against forecasts of 3%.

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On the upside, growth in China

was robust - it rose to 6%.

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Let's look and see what is happening

on the markets. Stocks in Asia

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extended their winning run to an

11th day on Friday, the longest

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winning streak we have seen their

Sims 2015. However, Japan's Nikkei

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bucked the trend to end the session

down 0.2%. -- since 2015.

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World equity markets have

rallied over the past year,

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buoyed by a synchronised uptick

in global economic growth in a boon

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to corporate profits

and stock valuations.

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The Dow and SNP 500 ended

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at their highest closing

levels ever on Thursday,

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although Wall Street

relinquished bigger intraday gains

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after President Trump's

strong dollar comments.

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They also helped the battered US

currency win back some ground.

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The greenback had sunk

to a three-year low on Thursday.

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Here in Europe we've seen

markets open higher.

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Mostly in London and Frankfurt. In

France they were slightly down but

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they have recovered now.

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In London the the pound has also

inched some 0.5% higher at $1.42

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following its ascent to a one

and a half year high

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the previous day.

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One company on Wall Street that will

be in focus today is Boeing because

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the plane maker expects to hear a

final decision from the US on its

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trade with Canadian rival

Bombardier. Samira Hussain has the

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details on this. This jet is the

pride of Bombardier's fleet and the

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source of one of the most bitter

trade disputes between Canada and

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the United States in recent memory.

These workers in Northern Ireland

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could end up paying the price. Big

orders of Bombardier's C series

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planes from American buyers prompted

cries of unfair competition from US

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plane making giant Boeing. Last year

the US commerce Department slapped

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tariffs of almost 300% on any C

series plane coming into the US are

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basically blocking the fleet from

the American market. Bombardier took

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their complaints to the

International Trade Commission,

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which will make its ruling Friday.

It's why both UK Prime Minister

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Theresa May and Canadian Prime

Minister Justin Trudeau have spoken

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personally with US President Donald

Trump about this dispute. And all of

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this comes as both the UK and Canada

have an eye on negotiating good

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trade deals with the United States.

But this dispute about Bombardier

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could be a sign that easy trade

relations with the Trump

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administration is anything but

certain. Samira Hussain, BBC News,

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New York. Joining me in the studio

is Richard Hunter, head of markets

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at Into -- Interactive Investor.

This Bombardier argument has been

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around for awhile, what the it is a

politically charged situation, the

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US and Canada are having trade talks

anyway, so this is kind of a poster

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child for what is going on there.

And at the same time we have just

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seen the recent love in between

Theresa May at Trump in Davos,

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needless to say there is a potential

impact on jobs in Northern Ireland

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in terms of the aircraft building.

So it's a very interesting one and

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it seems the Canadians are saying

because this is US jurisdiction we

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are not expecting to win but we will

find a very shortly.

Interesting. I

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think Sally has a question for us

from Davos.

I have indeed. It's

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looking very cosy in that studio.

Nice to see you, Richard. It's

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chilly at the World Economic Forum

but it's going together reheated

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later, I'm sure, when President

Trump starts to speak. Richard, I

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want to ask about some of the

economic news coming out today, US

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and UK growth figures, the talk all

week is about the fact global growth

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is going gung ho. What began hear

later?

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There to say that in terms of the

US, sweet start at the moment, loose

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monetary policy unquestioned global

growth of which the US is taking

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part, and also, we have that feeding

through, as we have heard, to the

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markets, particularly in the States,

described as the Goldilocks economy,

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not too hot, not too cold, but

little doubt that in challenging

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economic cycles, the US is nearer to

the end, the next year or so is

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going to be interesting. In terms of

the UK, doing OK, doing better than

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some have suggested after the

referendum result. By the same

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token, it is also fair to say that

while we are seeing growth in the

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UK, probably not at the sort of

level we would otherwise have seen

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without the Brexit vote.

The proof

will be in the pudding, we will get

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the fourth quarter estimate in a

little under an hour's time.

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Still to come:

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President stay on the podium, he

delivers his America first message

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and encourages global companies to

invest in the US. We are all waiting

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for it.

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You're with Business

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As your car ever been damaged after

you have hit a pothole on the road,

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it has happened to more and more of

us according to the RAC, they have

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released a report showing a jump in

call-outs due to poor road surfaces.

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Who is responsible for this, whose

responsibility is it to fix

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potholes?

Depends where they really

are, so, if you find them in things

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like motorways or major roads, then

it is the responsibility of people

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like highways England and traffic

Scotland but, if as many of us do

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travel on local roads, where most

journeys begin or end, that is the

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responsibility of local councils and

here is where the big problem lies,

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because although that makes up 98%

of the road network, about one 50th

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of the total money spent on road

repairs is actually on those roads.

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Local councils have a big job on

their hands. They feel in 2 million

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potholes a year, but they say that

cost them 4.4 billion last year but

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they say that they would need about

three times that amount in order to

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just clear the current backlog they

have, let alone be able to spot

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problems as they appear in the

future.

Interesting, you have been

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out and about in Essex, they are

trialling a pothole stop the scheme,

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what can you tell is about that?

I

have been hanging out with Eddie the

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bin man in Essex, as he did his

rounds, this may seem crazy but it

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is the new front line on the war on

potholes, in Essex, in Thurrock,

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they have cameras on top of the bin

lorries, they take in every metre or

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so of the road and are therefore

able to send data back to engineers

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to have a look at and see where

potholes are developing, where there

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are already problems. This is

happening not just in Thurrock but

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also in York, on buses, and

Wiltshire, they have a electric bike

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's. They are hoping to cover a large

part of the road network, and be

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able to see whether or not this is

possible. Quite a lot going on. The

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study is funded by the DST, a quick

look now to see what is on

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the BBC website, on the BBC live

page, a lot on Davos, extended

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versions of all the interviews we

have been conducting with business

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leaders, and also this, Lloyd's wish

list.

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Much more on the BBC website.

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Top story today: much anticipation

here and in some quarters

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trepidation, US president takes the

stage at the World Economic Forum in

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Davos, to deliver his America first

message. We are all waiting for

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that. As are the markets.

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Pound, Stirling, holding strong at

$1 42.

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Let's discuss the day ahead in a bit

more detail. One thing that has

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happened for sure, the US president

and his team have dominated the

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airwaves in terms of the

conversations taking place in the

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media about this year's World

Economic Forum. Just to talk through

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the management of the message as it

were, I'm joined by Jerry Bullman,

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global Chief Executive of the

advertising and media group, Dentsu

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Aegis. Good to have you here. What

is your take on Brand Trump and its

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dominance this week? -- Jerry

Buhlmann.

Like any brand, what it

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needs to do using gate with its

audience, he has created an

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environment where for the whole

week, everyone has been talking

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about him coming, and on Friday he

has given himself the last word,

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that shows the way he thinks about

things. There is some nuance to

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brand from as well, clearly, we know

the America first edition in. --

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brand Trump. He is now preaching

engagement on a global stage.

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America first, but engaging with the

world, that is a nuance on

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developing what is brand is and

giving his brand some primacy in the

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context of Davos.

Is this a good

thing or a bad thing for the World

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Economic Forum, many are saying,

actually, this is all about

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everybody being here and being given

a chance, including the Americans.

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Five out of the top seven leaders of

the world have been here this week,

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that is a level of political

engagement we have not seen in Davos

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for many years, British Prime

Minister Theresa May was here, we

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saw a manual mock rock and Modi, a

great deal of engagement between

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politicians and academics. It is a

good sign.

Another big discussion

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has been all about the big tech

names, Sheryl Sandberg is here,

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chief operating officer of bass book

and Chief Executive of Microsoft,

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and a lot of discussion about the

impact these companies are having on

0:22:010:22:05

all of us. -- chief operating

officer of Facebook. Also concerns

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about being too monopolistic, George

saw Ross thought about that at his

0:22:110:22:15

dinner, give us your take. Being in

media and advertising, are they in a

0:22:150:22:20

dangerous place. -- George Soros.

The Digital economy is by far the

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biggest opportunity over the next

five to ten years, the broad scope

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of things, a lot of these businesses

have a massive amount of utility

0:22:270:22:32

among consumers, we see the growth

of e-commerce, the growth of

0:22:320:22:36

smartphones, people accessing

better, all of these businesses

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contribute significantly to that. We

want a Brand safe environment for

0:22:400:22:46

advertisers, which means we need one

for consumers and people, and

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government is recognising there is

issues in that regard. We have to

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ensure that we can capture the

opportunities of the digital

0:23:010:23:05

economy, in the broad scope,

businesses will be here, some will

0:23:050:23:08

be gone over the next five, ten, 20

years, we will still have a much

0:23:080:23:12

more stable economy.

Google and

Facebook, between them, they

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dominate the advertising space in

terms of where people are putting

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their ads, do you see that getting

more or less in the near term?

I

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think there is a lot of other

players, Amazon are growing rapidly,

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and competing, but Alibaba Group, in

China, and we have seen this between

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Google and 10c. There is more

engagement, you will see more

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competition.

Thank you very much for

joining us. Interesting discussions

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going on, back to you. -- Tencent.

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All this week we have been asking

about the issue of sexual harassment

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and unfair pay and how do you stamp

it out?

0:24:060:24:19

No more secrets, get it out on the

table, let's come clean on the

0:24:220:24:26

issues, move on, let's be inclusive

for the future.

The most important

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thing companies need to do is create

a pure merit based environment so

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that the women get confidence that

they will not be discriminated

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against just on the basis of gender.

In China, most of us do not know

0:24:370:24:43

what sexual harassment is, I think

it is the company 's obligation to

0:24:430:24:47

educate their employees, sexual

harassment is wrong.

It is critical

0:24:470:24:51

to transform anger into action. And

action has to start at the top.

Some

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people have been badly intended but

the real problem is people have

0:25:000:25:02

missed things, and we have two miss

less and be better observers of

0:25:020:25:06

these things and spied these

inequalities and discriminatory

0:25:060:25:10

practices.

Companies need to

remember that women tend to be more

0:25:100:25:15

modest, so they need to be lifted

up, to grow in the rights of

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companies.

It is very important

companies create a culture where

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women feel welcome, safe and

empowered.

Give her the chance to

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study anything she wants.

Business

needs to recognise it is a real

0:25:310:25:34

issue, talk about it and do

something about it.

0:25:340:25:39

Breadth of views there are, what is

Friday got in store for Davos?

Of

0:25:390:25:43

course, the big event, we have

talked about it, all about President

0:25:430:25:49

Trump, but plenty of other events

going on. The American delegation

0:25:490:25:53

has been talking to the press yet

again, and they are talking about

0:25:530:25:57

keeping up to agreements and

enforcing international trade

0:25:570:26:00

standards, talking trade already.

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