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The European Union will reveal

all in a few hours.

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Live from London,

that's our top story

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on Monday the 29th of January.

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British Prime Minister Theresa May

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is facing battles within her own

party over the terms

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of leaving the European Union.

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Just as Brussels tells the UK what

it expects. We will talk through

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what is at stake.

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Also in the programme...

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How education is changing

to prepare students for jobs

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in Artificial Intelligence,

Augmented Reality and Robotics.

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We take a closer look.

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A brand-new business week is under

way. Most of the markets are headed

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higher. We will tell you all you

need to know.

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The need for weed,

as cannabis is being legalised

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across the United States.

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We meet one company

is helping to turn local pot

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growers into big business.

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But, do you think that

cannabis should be

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treated the same way

as tobacco and alcohol?

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That is what we are asking today.

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Let us know.

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Just use the hashtag BBCBizLive.

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Don't hold back. Tell us what you

think about the legalisation of

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cannabis and its sale en masse in

places like Colorado. It is a hot

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debate.

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Brexit dominates

the headlines again.

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The UK Prime Minister is said to be

fighting battles within her

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Conservative Party over the terms

of leaving the European Union

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and today the EU is expected to sign

off on what it wants for

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the all-important transition phase.

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There are two key dates.

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The 29th March next year

is when the UK government insists

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it's leaving the EU.

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The second is 31st December 2020.

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That's when the EU wants the

so-called transition period to end.

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And Brussels says the UK

will stay in the customs

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union and single market until then,

which means EU rules continue

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to apply even though

the UK will have no say

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in making any changes.

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One big disagreement

is likely to be over

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international trade deals.

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The EU argues that whilst the UK

is still in the single market

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it can't sign its own trade deals

without approval from Brussels.

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But, on Friday, the UK's

Brexit Secretary, David Davis,

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insisted the UK would be free

to sign its own trade deals

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during the transition period.

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Simon Usherwood is deputy director

for UK in a Changing Europe.

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Nice to see you. Welcome. A phrase

we will hear a lot over the next

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bidets is negotiating directives,

isn't it? That will move us on to

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the next step.

What is at stake?

This is the second phase of the

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talks, the Article 50 process of the

UK leaving. We have talked about

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citizens rights and finances and

Northern Ireland. Now we are talking

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about the transition arrangements,

the period until we can get a new

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relationship in place and getting a

feel of what the new relationship

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might be.

There are two dates which

will affect all of this was whether

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it is 2018 or 2020 at which time the

transition phase will have ended.

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There is a big debate about what

happens when.

It is about trade

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deals that need to be signed. And

what rules need to be applied. What

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you are saying is that should look

pretty much like membership except

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that the UK will not have a voice

and a vote in most ago she Asians.

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The consequence of that is everyone

wants to try to keep this nice and

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compact and shorts and we can move

on to the new arrangements.

--

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negotiations. We know it does not

always go to plan and perhaps there

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is not enough time to stop one thing

is about immigration and the

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movement of trade deals. Potentially

people from the European Union could

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still settle in the UK right up till

the end of the transition phase?

If

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the UK is going to be applying the

EU laws and rules, as does as a

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member, that includes free movement.

UK citizens leaving in the EU,

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places like Spain is still have the

same rights and access as they do at

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the moment. That will be a problem

for domestic political audiences

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who, for many of them, they wanted

to leave the EU to limit those kinds

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of things.

So, another two years of

something they wanted to stop. Also

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about trade. The UK is very keen to

start striking new trade deals with

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countries around the world. They

cannot do that potentially until

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2020.

David Davis was talking about

negotiating new deals and signing

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them. As a member, the UK cannot

sign its own trade deals.

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Potentially there might be room for

agreement where the users, you can

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start the ball rolling to reduce the

gap between ending the EU

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relationship and starting the UK

ones with third countries around the

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world.

The UK are negotiating in

Brussels and there is a lot of

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uncertainty in Westminster, not

least with Prime Minister Theresa

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May and her government that

potentially the Cabinet want

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different things.

This is the real

concern on the side of the EU as

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much as anything else. The EU does

have a clear line on what it wants

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to do and how it wants to do it.

With that uncertainty, particularly

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with the election last year, Theresa

May looks insecure in her position.

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If the unrest in the backbenches

continues, we will see more and more

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caution which will make it more

difficult to reach a deal.

One thing

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for us to watch very closely. Nice

to see you and thank you for

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explaining that.

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Let's take a look

at some of the other

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stories making the news.

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President Donald Trump's

national security team

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is looking at options to counter

the threat of China spying on US

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phone calls.

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According to a senior

White House official,

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the proposals include

the Government building

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a super-fast

5G wireless network.

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An investigation has been launched

after a firm allegedly

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sold millions of fake followers

to social media users.

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The company, Devumi,

stands accused of stealing

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the identity of real people,

and using them to

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create fake accounts.

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That's according to

the New York Times.

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The firm has denied the allegations.

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Ford's China chief

Jason Luo has resigned,

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after just five months in the role.

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His resignation was effective

immediately, the company

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said in a statement.

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Luo was responsible for leading

the carmaker's operations in China,

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including its import business.

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The Australian government has set

out plans to become one

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of the world's top ten arms

exporters over the next decade.

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The Defence Industry Minister said

grants to help arms manufacturers

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increase sales could create tens

of thousands of jobs.

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Google has announced

a $100 million investment

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in the ride-hailing company Go-Jek.

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What does it mean?

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Karishma Vaswani is in

Singapore for us.

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We know there is a battle between

the likes of Lift and Gruber. And

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now this company Go-Jek.

I am sure

people in this part of the world are

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familiar with it but audiences in

Europe may not know. Go-Jek the

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company that is very much part of

the big ride hailing competition for

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passengers out on Southeast Asian

streets. It has rivals such as Uber

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in this region, as well as Grab.

Sources at Google said the company

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is pumping some $100 million worth

of investment into Go-Jek was this

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marks Google's first ride hailing

app investment. Other investors are

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companies in China. You are starting

to see this part of the world being

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carved up into various directors

decided who they are going to bet on

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in this competition. You have Uber

and Grab being backed. But Go-Jek is

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the prize in this part of the world,

not just for ride hailing but the

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internet market as well.

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Let's have a look at the financial

markets. In Asia, it was a bit of a

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mixed day. It got fairly mixed as

the day progressed. Some things to

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keep in focus, last week there was a

lot of talk about protectionism and

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also weaker dollar policy. That was

buffeting markets to a degree around

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the world last week. That was all

coming out of Davos, the World

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Economic Forum. People are back

focusing on earnings and economic

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news. Let's have a look at Europe.

You can see London up slightly for

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the back is the story across the

board. Earlier you can see the

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Spanish markets are lower. Many

commodities are doing really well

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for you have a weaker pound sterling

probably because of the conflict

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over Brexit.

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And Samira Hussain has the details

about what's ahead

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on Wall Street Today.

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Fresh consumer spending numbers come

out on Monday for that this is

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important because consumer spending

accounts for two thirds of all US

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economic activity. The commerce

Department is expected to report

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consumer spending will have picked

up by .6% and shipments of capital

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goods orders increased for the tenth

straight month. Also happening,

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negotiations for the sixth and

penultimate round of talks in

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finalising the North American Free

Trade Agreement. Time is running out

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for Canada and Mexico to tackle what

they call unacceptable demands by

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the United States. On Monday we will

hear from the Pentagon's number one

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weapons supplier. It is expected to

report its fourth-quarter results.

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Joining us is Michael Hewson,

chief market analyst at CMC markets.

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Let's stay with the US. That is the

focus for markets this week.

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Certainly what I am paying

particular attention to this week.

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It has been the worst start for the

US dollar since 1987 in terms of

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performance. We have seen six

successive weekly declines since the

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last Fed meeting. I will pay

attention to whether or not the

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Federal reserve upgrades its

economic forecast for the year ahead

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in light of the recent tax cuts that

were implemented by the Obama

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Administration. I think it would be

a big week for the dollar. Will we

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see a rebound after six weeks of

declines?

Just on that point, the

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pound is weaker today. Is that

because the dollar is coming back a

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bit or is it because of concerns

about Theresa May and what is

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happening with regards to Brexit?

I

don't think concerns about Theresa

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May and Brexit at anything new if

you look at what the pound has done

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since August, it is up 7% on a trade

weighted basis. What we have seen

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today is a bit of a dollar rebound

was if you look at the pound against

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the euro, it is pretty much flat on

the day.

What else are you watching

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out for? Any earnings you want to

keep an eye on?

There are

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significant earnings coming out this

week. Particularly the oil

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companies. Will the higher oil price

be reflected in the headline

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numbers? Will the return of the

dividend signify by other rises in

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the share price?

As always, it is

good to talk to you. Talking us

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through what the city is keeping an

eye on. Let's talk about a story

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about that cannabis industry. One

company that is helping marijuana

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owners turn their plants into big

business. You are with Business Live

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from BBC News.

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Is your job is safe from the rise of

robots? People in the Midlands are

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more vulnerable to the rise of

automation. We have been finding out

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more. It is machines like these that

are starting to take the place of

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workers more and more for that this

is a car park distribution centre in

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Chesterfield. The reason they are

improving as a business businesses

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because they are getting more and

more automation. This report

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highlights the fact they think of

this that the jobs in the UK could

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be at risk. More importantly, they

say, the benefits may only be seen

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in the south of England and the

south-east of England, London and

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the South East. The North and the

Midlands, the East Midlands like

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here, could see not so much of the

benefits of that. When you look at

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the potential benefits of automation

and robots quite you can see

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businesses like these can become

more efficient.

There are going to

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be job losses over the next ten, 20

years. There will be innovations

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like robots taking jobs away. People

are concerned about that. The key

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messages our jobs will be lost but

opportunities will be created and we

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need to prepare people for that

opportunity.

A lot of opportunity

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and a lot of things for areas like

Chester built to have to take into

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account. It is not just warehouses,

it is retail assistance and

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insurance brokers as well put up

still be opportunity for growth as

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well.

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There's quite a bit on that subject

on our website so take a look if you

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are interested. Regulators are to

investigate the audit of Carillion,

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carried out by KPMG. They say the

move follows inquiries made since a

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profit warning in July, and you will

know there's a lot of criticism over

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why Carillion was still awarded

contracts even though it had issued

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profit warnings. There's lots of

detail on that story and also more

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on the Business Live page about

companies impacted by the Carillion

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collapse.

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You're watching Business

Live - our top story:

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Another Brexit milestone -

the EU decides on what it wants,

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and what its willing to be flexible

on, in negotiation with the UK.

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That could have an effect on markets

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in Europe too so let's have

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That could have an effect on markets

in Europe too so let's have a look.

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We have seen weakness with the pound

as the uncertainty continues.

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We have seen weakness with the pound

as the uncertainty continues.

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Now we are going to talk about

something that is very controversial

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and most people have strong opinions

about this. We are talking about

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burgeoning of a very lucrative

industry of marijuana.

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But first we are going to talk about

artificial intelligence and

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augmented reality.

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Technology is proving a game changer

for many industries.

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Forget about that, back to

marijuana.

Have you had some?

Yes,

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in the Green room! No, I haven't.

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There has been

a growing awareness that

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schools need to revamp,

to give today's students the digital

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skills they'll need in the future.

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And, there's big money in it too.

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This education dollar has brought

almost a thousand Edtech

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companies here to London.

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Our reporter Katie Silver went

along to take a look.

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Going inside Volcano, a trip to New

York or to space, Virtual reality,

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they tell me, is the future to

education.

You can put the camera in

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and create your own 360 content.

The

company Weblogs has partnered up

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with Google to sell virtual reality

sets to schools. The tech giant has

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made no-frills version of its own.

This is literally a piece of

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cardboard with telescopic lenses and

inside is a smartphone.

The

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cardboard versions cost $15 each but

it's unclear how parents will feel

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about Google being so embedded in

classrooms. Robotics company I spoke

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to also wants to educate tomorrow's

pupils.

They are getting an

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introduction to computer science,

mechanical engineering, electrical

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systems. These are really in demand

careers at the moment.

Companies are

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also using drones to inspire

children to cope. Using software,

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children programme machines and

learn mathematical concepts at the

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same time. It is expected to reach

$150 billion by 2020 and brought

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exhibitors like these from around

the world, hoping to break

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themselves off a bit of that pie.

When you build something that adds

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value instantly and is so simple,

there's many companies working into

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this space but it takes a certain

mix of technologies to understand

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the classroom and teacher. Whoever

gets that right sees the volume

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increasing significantly.

There are

even companies allowing children to

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print greedy pens perfectly tailored

to their grip. -- 3D pens.

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Fascinating, now onto the

controversial debate I tried to

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introduce to you three minutes ago.

Yes, it was worth waiting for. You

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work just teasing.

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In the US,

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cannabis is legal medically in 29

states and recreationally

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in nine others.

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The latest figures

show the market was

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worth $7.1 billion in 2016

and it's growing every year.

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The UN estimates the global industry

is worth $142 billion.

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And transforming the sale

of cannabis from an illegal to legal

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endeavour means creating a lot

of new jobs - some estimate

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over a million - and,

of course, revenue from tax.

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To help navigate

the business world of cannabis,

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is a company called BudTender.

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It's chief executive

Ebony Costain is with us now.

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You help people work out how they

can make jobs, pay their taxes and

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do this properly as a business, how

does it work?

We are an online

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platform working with cannabis

brands to deliver information to

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people responsible for selling the

products, and they are called

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BudTenders. You have to have a

BudTender to facilitate

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transactions. With advertising laws,

with cannabis, very restrictive so

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brands are having a hard time and

how to get there rounded product

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information in front of the

customer.

So this helps them

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navigate the market, what they can

and cannot do. We were surprised how

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many products there are. This isn't

just about the leaf.

No, you have

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edibles, topicals, patches, even

inhalers, so thousands of products

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and they are all different in

different states so being able to

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keep up with that information is a

lot for the BudTenders.

You are in

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Colorado, which is where it has

become legal in the last five years

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and the industry there has boomed,

hasn't it? You moved from Virginia

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to Colorado where you could provide

this business legally. How do you do

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that, because if you are going to

provide information about thousands

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of products which the user needs to

know all the different elements and

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whether it affects them chemically

well or not, whether it will supply

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the medicinal lead or not, how do

you know what's involved in each of

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these products?

We work very closely

with the brands and help deliver

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their product information, their

brand stories so we are not just

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guessing on our own. We are working

hand-in-hand with the brands we work

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with.

And they pay you money, don't

be, so if I'm going on your website

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and I want to find out about the

different brands, how do I know your

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information is impartial and not

skewed by the fact they pay you to

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tell me about their products?

I

understand that but it is a

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marketing platform. How you see

advertisements in commercials and

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magazines, it is up to the consumer

to filter through that.

It is pretty

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rare there is an industry that is

created overnight, and to be at the

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forefront of it from early stages,

are you now looking around the world

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at where else this is applicable?

Where governments are thinking

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should we legalise?

Yes, the great

thing with our platform is it is

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scalable since it is online

technology, we can go to Israel or

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Amsterdam.

So where are you

watching?

Clearly the US, California

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will be a huge market. In a couple

of years they are expected to see $1

0:24:300:24:37

billion with the tax revenue.

But

you have to be right across the

0:24:370:24:41

moor, don't you. In the States where

you are writing I know there's a

0:24:410:24:47

pile of BudTenders being

investigated in Colorado because

0:24:470:24:50

they have been giving customers too

much cannabis and there's strict

0:24:500:24:54

regulations about it.

There are

still a lot of grey areas we are

0:24:540:24:58

trying to figure out in the States

but I think in the next five to ten

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years, this industry is wealth

generating.

Ever need, really good

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to see you. Thank you for explaining

that.

Thank you for having me.

So

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many people have been in touch about

this. We will have to retweet them,

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won't we? Matt says think about tax

revenue. Paul says plusses and

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minuses but why not tax it and

profit from it.

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That's it from

Business Live today.

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Have a good day, goodbye.

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