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This is BBC News.

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The headlines:

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A British woman, Rebecca Dykes,

who worked at the UK embassy

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in Beirut has been killed.

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Reports suggest she was strangled.

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The first victim of a car

crash in Birmingham -

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in which six people were killed -

has been named locally

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as Imtiaz Mohammed.

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Ryanair pilots suspend a planned 24

hour strike as the airlines agrees

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to recognise the pilots trade unions

for the first time.

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Athlete Mo Farah wins this year's

Sports Personality of the Year -

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and says he was surprised

at the result.

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The sports awards ceremony also paid

tribute to six-year-old

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football fan Bradley Lowery,

who died from cancer

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earlier this year -

he was given the Helen

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Rollason Award.

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Also in the next hour,

Harry meets Barack.

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In his new role as a journalist,

the Prince interviews

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the former US President

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If you start using long

pauses between answers

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you're probably going

to get the face.

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Let me see the face.

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LAUGHTER.

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The interview was recorded as part

of the Today programme's guest

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editor series to be broadcast

later this year.

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Good evening and

welcome to BBC News.

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A British embassy worker has

been killed in Beirut.

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The body of Rebecca Dykes was found

by the side of a road

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in the city yesterday.

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Our correspondent Jon Donnison has

been following developments.

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Our Middle East correspondent Martin

Patience joins us from Beirut.

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What is the latest you can tell us?

Well, this is

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What is the latest you can tell us?

Well, this is a piece of news that

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has stunned the diplomatic

communities. It is believed that

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Rebecca Dykes was attending a going

away party on Friday night in a

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popular area of the city. After she

left the bar, it is understood she

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was then abducted and her body was

found dumped close to a motorway

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sometime on Saturday. Police sources

we have spoken to say that they

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believe she was strangled. Her

family have been notified of her

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death. As I said before, this has

stunned the British community in

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Beirut.

In governmental terms, has

there been any reaction in Beirut or

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here at home?

There has, there has

been reaction from Rebecca Dykes'

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family. They say they are devastated

by the loss and they are still

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coming to terms with what happened,

trying to understand what happened.

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The Lebanese police are still

investigating. We understand that a

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second autopsy was carried out a

couple of hours ago. In terms of the

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British Embassy, the ambassador on

Twitter said that the embassy,

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everybody in the embassy was deeply

stunned by what happened. He added

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that the British authorities were

working very closely with the

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Lebanese authorities that are

carrying out the police

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investigation.

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Police investigators are trying

to find out what caused a car

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crash in an underpass

in Birmingham this morning.

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Six people were killed and several

others suffered serious injuries.

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Firefighters have

described the scene

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as "challenging" and "horrific".

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Phil Mackie is in Birmingham

and sent this report.

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The immediate aftermath

of the crash.

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Debris strewn across four lanes.

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Medics were desperately

trying to save lives,

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but five people were already dead,

and a sixth was dying.

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The rest of the footage

is too graphic to show.

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In daylight, the scale

of what happened became clearer.

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Three of the people

who died were in this taxi.

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Astonishingly, the man and the woman

in the small car crushed between it

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and the wall walked away

with minor injuries.

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The sound of the crash woke

many of the people who live nearby.

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Got out of bed, looked out

the window and just saw

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loads of people running

towards where the crash was.

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And then the police officers telling

everyone to get back, get back,

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so I guess people were trying

to help people.

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They pulled two people

out of the taxi.

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I didn't realise it was a taxi

until today, but they pulled two

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people out of the taxi,

resuscitating them straightaway

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for about 25 minutes.

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They took one in the ambulance.

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I didn't see them take

the second one away,

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so I don't know if they didn't make

it, but yes it was havoc.

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The crash happened on a section

of the Belgrave Middleway, a busy

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road in the heart of Birmingham.

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The vehicles collided

at an entrance to an underpass

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at the junction of Bristol Road.

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Police say the dual carriageway

will probably stay closed

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for the rest of the day.

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Investigators will be looking

at a number of factors.

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The road was gritted,

but eight hours before the accident.

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At 1am, temperatures

were close to freezing.

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There is no central barrier - did

one of thecars cross carriageways?

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Residents say especially

when it is late at night

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and the road is quiet,

people will come along

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here at excess speeds.

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It will take some time to unpick

the scene and just understand

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exactly what has happened,

and it would be unfair for me

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to speculate at this time.

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What I can say is that we are

looking to all sorts of conditions,

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the road conditions,

we are aware of the road was gritted

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5pm last night but that is just one

factor of many we need to consider.

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40 firefighters helped

free survivors.

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Five ambulance crews and three

paramedics treated the injured

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at what was described

as a complex scene.

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It quickly became apparent

there could not be a lot done

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to save the lives of some

of those patients unfortunately.

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Again, very difficult circumstances,

as you have already alluded to,

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very close to Christmas,

so our thoughts are with

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the families and friends

of those patients involved.

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There were a total of 13 casualties,

including the six who died,

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with six vehicles damaged.

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Police described the

accident as harrowing.

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Investigations into what caused it

are likely to take some time.

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Within the last hour the name

of the first of the six victims

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has been named locally.

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Imtiaz Mohammed was a taxi

driver from the city,

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he had six children.

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He had just call his wife to say he

was on the way home. He was

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described as a hard-working family

man.

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He was carrying two passengers

at the time of the crash,

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both also lost their lives.

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Two police officers have

been seriously injured

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after they were hit by a car

on the North Circular

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Road in London.

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The Met Commissioner, Cressida Dick,

said this evening that such

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incidents give a stark reminder

of the dangers of policing.

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The two officers were returning

to a marked police vehicle,

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parked near Brent Park in Neasden,

when a car collided with them

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early this morning.

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The man and woman are both

constables in their 30s.

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The driver of a white Maserati

was arrested at the scene.

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We will be taking a look at how all

of the big stories are covered in

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different pages.

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In The Papers -

our guests joining me tonight

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are the author and journalist

Yasmin Alibhai-Brown and Ruth Lea,

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economic advisor at

Arbuthnot Banking Group.

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Sir Mo Farah has won this year's BBC

Sports Personality of the Year.

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The motorcyclist Jonathan Rea

was second, and the paralympic

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athlete, Jonnie Peacock, was third.

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It's the first time

Sir Mo has won the award.

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The announcement of his victory

was made in Liverpool's Echo Arena

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but the four-time Olympic champion

was in a studio in north London,

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with his daughter Rhianna

who presented him with his award.

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However, all did not go

entirely according to plan.

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Mo I hope you can hear us. Rhianna

has the trophy to present. Please

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don't tell me he has gone to bed?

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I think that sums up his evening. I

am sure that is Hussein pulling out

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the plug.

The most brilliant

non-interview that ever happened.

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When the line was finally

re-established to Sir Mo,

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this is what he had to say.

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It's pretty amazing. It's hard to

think about, over the years, what

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I've done. To win this, I didn't

honestly come out tonight thinking,

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yeah, maybe top three, see how it

goes, because we've got amazing

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superstars in sports. We've got

Anthony Joshua, Lewis, Johnnie

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Peacock, all of the boys. It's been

amazing. When you look at it,

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comparing yourself with other

athletes, you think I could finish

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in the top three. I didn't imagine I

was ever going to win this. Come so

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close in 2012, and I guess anything

can happen. You just have to dig

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deep and keep working. I just want

to thank everybody who has supported

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me. It has been an incredible

journey and it's very exciting. I'm

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looking forward to the marathon.

It's very exciting. Gary, my coach

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is out there tonight, as you know,

preparing for the London Marathon

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and helping me out. It's tough, it's

not as easy as I thought it was

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going to be, the marathon training.

It's getting there, it's about

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understanding each other and

working. It is hard work. But

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anything can happen. You know,

myself, as an athlete, what I have

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achieved has been incredible over

the years. For all of the youngsters

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out there, the people out there, you

can work hard and you can achieve

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your dreams. Anything is possible in

life. If you believe in it, work at

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it and keep grafting, grafting,

anything is possible. What an

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amazing night. I wish I was there.

Unfortunately, sorry, I can't be

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there, guys. The kids haven't been

well. But it's all exciting for us.

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I just can't believe I won!

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Earlier in the evening

there was an emotional tribute

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to Sunderland fan Bradley Lowery.

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The six-year-old died earlier this

year of neuroblastoma -

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a rare type of cancer.

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He became a well known figure among

the sporting community, becoming

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a close friend of the England

striker Jermain Defoe.

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His parents Gemma and Carl

picked up the posthumous

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Helen Rollason award -

given "for outstanding

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achievement in the face

of adversity" at the ceremony.

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Gemma Lowery spoke to the audience

after she was given the award.

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Wow.

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I'm slightly overwhelmed but I'm

absolutely honoured to receive this

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on behalf of Bradley.

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Bradley was only here

for six short years.

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But the nation took him

into their hearts.

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He raised so much awareness

for childhood cancer,

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it was unbelievable.

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I'm so proud of him.

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To continue that, we've set up

the Bradley Lowery Foundation

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because we want to continue the good

work that he's done.

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Not only are we going to be

supporting people fundraising,

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we're going to be giving grants out.

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We've also got the For

Bradley Campaign going,

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because we want to build an amazing

house for sick children to go

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and be able to enjoy,

have some normality and have

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some special memories.

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All we've got left now

is them special memories.

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But we treasure them every single

day and we want to be able to give

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back to the people of the nation.

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I would just like to finish

by saying thank you so,

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so much for the continued support.

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Everyone's been fantastic.

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We couldn't do it without you.

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Please continue to support.

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Together, we can make a difference.

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APPLAUSE.

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Gemma Lowery, remembering her son,

Bradley. Ryanair pilots have

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suspended a one-day strike planned

for just before Christmas. The

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Impact union, which represents Irish

-based pilots, has agreed to meet a

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line management on Tuesday evening.

117 pilots are involved in the

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dispute, making up the majority of

the firm's captains in Ireland,

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meaning any walk-out would have

severely affected flights. I'm

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joined now by the industrial

relations correspondent for the

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Economist. How significant a

decision is this to suspend the

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strike?

Well, it is very significant

if you are heading home for

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Christmas next year on a Ryanair

flight. A lot of Ryanair customers

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will be very cheered by this news.

However, shareholders are not

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necessarily as pleased. On Friday,

when Ryanair announced that it was

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going to recognise the union, the

airline share price dropped by 5%,

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because there is a fear that it will

cause higher costs for the airlines

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longer term, if it results in higher

paid pilots over time.

Given the

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impact on the company, why have they

decided to recognise the unions?

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Well, essentially, there is a

shortage of pilots in Europe. This

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is because other airlines are

rapidly growing. Earlier this year,

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Ryanair had to announce 20,000

flight cancellations because other

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airlines such as Norwegian and

easyJet were stealing some of the

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pilot by offering them better pay

and conditions. So, whether or not

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Ryanair was going to recognise the

pilots union, it was going to have

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to pay more money to keep a lot of

pilots. It has been spending

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thousands and thousands of euros in

extra bonuses and pay to keep some

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of its pilots. So, whether or not it

recognised the unions, it was going

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to have to pay more for pilots. So,

therefore, I think the market did

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overreact on Friday. So these costs

were going to be born whether or not

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it recognised the pilots unions or

not.

Given the fact that the costs

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will presumably have to be passed

on, as you say, born somewhere, are

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we as customers and consumers going

to have to get used to a slightly

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different idea of the Ryanair

offering?

Well, Ryanair is one of

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Europe, if not Europe's most

profitable airlines. It has Europe's

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lowest unit costs per passenger. So,

I think Ryanair can pay for these

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extra costs out of some of its

profits. Remember, if paying pilots

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a little bit better allows the

airline to grow more, that means it

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can grow revenues more, grow profits

more in longer term. So, it doesn't

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necessarily mean higher fares for

the consumer, particularly in the

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shorter term.

Thanks very much for

your time.

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Let's look at the headlines. A

British woman, Rebecca Dykes, has

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been killed and Beirut, the Foreign

Office says. She worked for the

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Department for International develop

on. The first of six victims in this

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morning's car crash in Birmingham

has been named locally as taxi

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driver Imtiaz Mohammed. Ryanair

pilots have suspended a planned

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24-hour strike as the airline agrees

to recognise the pilots trades

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unions for the first time.

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A big day in the world of sport.

Let's cross to the BBC sports

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centre.

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Good evening.

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Celtic boss Brendan Rodgers said his

players would go down in history

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after their unbeaten run in Scotland

ended. There were thrashed 4-0 at

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Hearts in the premiership. The last

time Celtic lost a league game was

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an incredible 585 days ago.

16-year-old Harry Cochrane gave them

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the lead. David Miller got a couple

of goals as well. It brings to an

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end the longest unbeaten run in

Scottish history.

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They've gone through 69 games.

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For this, in 18 months,

to be the first defeat,

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of course it is a sore one,

especially when you

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are beaten like that.

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But they can hold their heads up.

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They've been absolutely

amazing in that 18 months.

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To set a record, 69 games,

that may never be beaten,

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they can be very proud of that.

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Now we hit the reset button again.

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Manchester United have closed

the gap on top of the table

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Manchester City to 11 points

with a 2-1 win over

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relegation threatened

West Brom at the Hawthorns.

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An unfortunate deflection helped

Jesse Lingard to United's second

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before half-time.

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Romelu Lukaku's header opened

proceedings.

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Gareth Barry scored

West Brom's first goal under

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Alan Pardew but it was just

consolation as they stay 19th.

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You do your best, you try to win

matches, you try to play the best

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possible. You try to do all you can

as a team. You try to give kids a

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big chance to become an important

player at Manchester United. At the

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end of the season, we will see what

happens, not just in the Premier

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League but also in other

competitions.

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Liverpool got back to winning ways,

with a comfortable 4-0 win away

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at Bournemouth in

the Premier League.

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Mohamed Salah, netting his 20th goal

in all competitions this season.

We

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need to be really consistent. We

need to be steady and on track. We

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need to show all the time while we

are together. Today, we are really

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happy, because we have the Christmas

party tonight. It is the first time

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I think that we can celebrate

Christmas.

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England's cricketers are not going

to be celebrating, it seems.

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England's hopes of retaining

the Ashes are fading fast.

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They must bat through tomorrow's

final day if they're to avoid defeat

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in the third test in Perth

and snatch a draw to

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keep the series alive.

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Weather could play its part,

rain stopped play towards the end

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of the fourth day, at the close

England were 132-4.

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Mitchell Marsh didn't add

to his 181 overnight.

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Whilst Aussie Captain Steve

Smith was out for 239.

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Australia declared on 662

for nine - a lead of 259.

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In reply, England lost

Mark Stoneman, Alastair Cook

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and Joe Root cheaply.

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James Vince made a half century

before he was bowled by a terrific

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ball by Mitchell Starc.

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Defeat for England would leave them

3-0 down and handing

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the Ashes back to Australia.

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European Champions Cup holders

Saracens look like they'll now need

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to try to reach the quarter-finals

as one of three best pool runners-up

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after losing 24-21 to group leaders

Clemont Auvergne in France.

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Sarries were keen to avoid

a repeat of the home

0:19:410:19:43

thrashing in the reverse fixture

and helped by Ben Spencer's try,

0:19:430:19:47

they soon built a 13-0 lead.

0:19:470:19:51

But Clermont chipped

away at the advantage

0:19:510:19:54

and although they managed no tries

to Sarries' two, Scott Spedding's

0:19:540:19:57

late penalty earned a 24-21 victory.

0:19:570:19:58

Saracens, did at least pick up

a losing bonus point.

0:19:580:20:03

Wasps have kept their

hopes alive with a 21-3

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victory over La Rochelle.

0:20:050:20:06

Leicester remain bottom

of their pool - they lost

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at home to Munster 25-16.

0:20:080:20:12

Northampton lost their first

match after the dismissal

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of their director of rugby

Jim Mallinder - beaten

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32-15 at Ospreys.

0:20:160:20:20

World number six Justin Rose won

the Indonesian Masters by eight

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shots in Jakarta to seal his third

tournament victory in seven weeks.

0:20:230:20:28

The Englishman posted eight birdies

and an eagle in the first 13

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holes of his final round,

eventually finishing

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on 29 under par.

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That is all of the sport for now.

Back to you.

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The Prime Minister says events over

the last few days have marked a

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watershed in the departure from the

European Union. Theresa May said

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that the Government is proving

doubters wrong after the EU agreed

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to move onto the next phase of

negotiations. Labour say the Brexit

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plans are a mess.

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Earlier I spoke to our political

correspondent, Chris Mason,

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who began by telling me

about a recent interview

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with the EU's chief Brexit

negotiator, Michel Barnier,

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in Prospect magazine.

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Nothing in here that is a million

miles from what we have

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heard from him before.

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And quite striking in its language.

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We've approached Mr Barnier's offers

to make sure there isn't anything

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lost in translation.

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The expectation is that he will have

given this interview in French.

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Just to bring you this

quote from Prospect.

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He says, they, referring to the UK,

have to realise there

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won't be any cherry picking.

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He's talking here about a future

arrangement and future deal.

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We won't mix up the various

scenarios to create a specific one

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and accommodate their wishes,

mixing, for instance, the advantages

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of the Norwegian model -

Norway is not a member of the EU

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but is a member of the single

market and accepts free

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movement of people -

with the simple requirements

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of the Canadian model.

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You'll know that there has

been some discussion.

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David Davis, the Brexit Secretary,

talked about the idea

0:21:530:21:55

of the Canadian model

plus, plus, plus.

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Canada has a free trade arrangement

with the EU in goods,

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but not in services,

but doesn't have to accept

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free movement of people.

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He ends this particular

paragraph saying they -

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again, referring to the UK -

will have to face the consequences

0:22:070:22:10

of their own decision.

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In other words, is effectively

saying, look, things cannot stay

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the same because you,

the UK, have chosen to leave and

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that was your decision, not ours.

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When you talk about the idea

of a bespoke solution,

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that won't necessarily come easy

in terms of what the EU is willing

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to put on the table.

0:22:290:22:30

Theresa May has been writing in two

British papers today.

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What has she had to say?

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What kind of position

is she setting out?

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Yes, two articles, one

in the Sunday Telegraph,

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one in the Sunday Express.

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You often get Prime Ministerial

pieces in the Sunday newspapers.

0:22:410:22:43

It's not often they take to two

different newspapers.

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The message was broadly

the same but the audience,

0:22:460:22:48

I guess, is a bit different.

0:22:480:22:49

What was striking about

the Prime Minister's words

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is how defiant she was.

0:22:510:22:52

Kind of understandably,

up to a point.

0:22:520:22:54

There's been a huge number

of headlines in the last few weeks

0:22:540:22:57

about that aborted attempt to get

a deal in Brussels.

0:22:570:22:59

She went over there,

she had to come back and go over

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a few days later.

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Then the defeat in the Commons last

week, and all of the accompanying

0:23:030:23:06

negative headlines,

from her perspective.

0:23:060:23:08

In reality, she can point to,

and she does in these articles,

0:23:080:23:11

that she has got to where she set

out to buy Christmas.

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The negotiations will move

on to phase two, the future,

0:23:150:23:18

after Christmas, despite the bumps

on the road that we've had over

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the last couple of weeks.

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But what we haven't got yet,

and we might start to get

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this week, is a sense

from the British Government,

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privately at first, then publicly,

about what they actually want.

0:23:270:23:29

What is that end state

that the British Government

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is seeking to have?

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We know the broad parameters,

we know the Government wants

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to leave the single market

and the customs union,

0:23:350:23:38

and those economic relationships

that are bound up with our current

0:23:380:23:40

membership.

0:23:400:23:42

But we don't know any specifics.

0:23:420:23:45

Brussels is clamouring

for those specifics.

0:23:450:23:46

Plenty of people in

the UK are as well.

0:23:460:23:50

The Brexit super cabinet,

if you like, the War Cabinet

0:23:500:23:52

of main cabinet ministers involved

in Brexit, meeting tomorrow

0:23:520:23:55

morning in Downing Street.

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There a full cabinet

meeting on Tuesday.

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That will be the first time

that the full Cabinet meeting have

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had a proper discussion

about that end state.

0:24:060:24:08

That might surprise you.

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There is, arguably, a political

savviness from the Prime Minister

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to have put it off for as long

as she has.

0:24:110:24:14

If you know you're facing

a row about something,

0:24:140:24:16

arguably it's pragmatic to postpone

it for as long as possible,

0:24:160:24:18

and that's what she's done.

0:24:190:24:26

The White House has confirmed that

the CIA helped Russia thwart a bomb

0:24:260:24:31

attack on a cathedral in St

Petersburg.

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This is the moment security forces

raided a flat allegedly used

0:24:370:24:42

as logistical base

to plan the attack.

0:24:420:24:43

Seven people were held,

charged with being members

0:24:430:24:45

of so-called Islamic State.

0:24:450:24:46

The officers also seized explosives,

weapons and propaganda material.

0:24:460:24:52

The Government is considering

extending automatic enrolment

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into a workplace pension,

to 18 year olds, from 2020.

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Currently the starting age is 22,

for anyone earning more

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than £10,000.

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Workers can opt out,

but the change could affect

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around 900,000 people.

0:25:050:25:08

Joe Lynam reports.

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Ollie and Nate are both 21.

0:25:100:25:11

Ollie, on the left, has not yet

started saving for his retirement.

0:25:110:25:16

It has not really

crossed my mind yet.

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I move jobs quite frequently, tend

not to stay in one place too long.

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So pensions have been lower

down the list of things

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I have been conscious of.

0:25:250:25:31

Nate, though, has been

saving for his retirement

0:25:310:25:33

since he was 16.

0:25:330:25:35

I grew up with a family on welfare,

so I was quite aware of the effects

0:25:350:25:40

being reliant on government

money can have.

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And how insecure

it can be sometimes.

0:25:440:25:47

If the Work and Pensions Secretary

David Gauke has his way,

0:25:470:25:50

young people like Ollie and Nate

could soon be automatically enrolled

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for a pension at their employers.

0:25:530:25:55

That, I think, will get more people

into the habit of saving.

0:25:550:25:58

It will mean younger people will be

saving for those extra years,

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so that is significant when it comes

to their retirement.

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At the moment, only those aged over

22 are automatically

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included in a pension scheme

by their employers,

0:26:100:26:13

but the Government wants

that age lowered to 18.

0:26:130:26:17

Soon, 8% of our salaries will be

going into a pension pot,

0:26:170:26:20

something that employers

are worried about.

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I think what the Government needs

to bear in mind however is how much

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of the cost of that is going to be

falling on employers in the future,

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because already the cost

for employers is on course

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to treble by 2019.

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Today's announcement means the cost

for employers will be

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even higher than that.

0:26:390:26:41

To 18, or even 21-year-olds,

retirement must seem

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a very long way off,

especially if they don't earn much,

0:26:440:26:48

but if this plan proceeds,

it could help prevent younger people

0:26:480:26:51

depending on the state

in decades to come.

0:26:510:26:53

Joe Lynam, BBC News.

0:26:530:26:57

Two senior members of South Africa's

governing ANC have been

0:26:570:27:00

chosen as candidates to be

the next party leader.

0:27:000:27:03

The process to find a successor

to President Zuma had

0:27:030:27:07

been delayed because of

divisions among delegates.

0:27:070:27:09

Our correspondent, Milton Nkosi,

in Johannesburg, says it's not

0:27:090:27:11

clear when the new leader

will be announced.

0:27:110:27:16

I was in the plenary, earlier on,

when the nominations were conducted,

0:27:170:27:19

and Deputy President Cyril Ramaphosa

agreed to stand for

0:27:190:27:22

the position of president,

and Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma

0:27:220:27:23

did the same.

0:27:230:27:32

The Electoral Commission

has gone away to start

0:27:320:27:34

printing the ballot papers,

and voting will start pretty soon,

0:27:340:27:40

because the delegates,

I don't know if you can see some

0:27:400:27:43

of them mingling behind me, they

have gone to dinner in the meantime.

0:27:430:27:46

When they go back, then they will

begin the process of voting.

0:27:460:27:51

There are 5000 of them,

plus minus 5000 voting delegates,

0:27:510:27:56

and Cyril Ramaphosa,

as far as we know, is inching away

0:27:560:27:59

with about 500 nominations,

but that is not to say that those

0:27:590:28:02

numbers won't change.

0:28:020:28:12

Prince Harry has taken on a new role

as a journalist and interviewed or

0:28:140:28:18

Obama. It was recorded at the

Invictus Games in September, as part

0:28:180:28:23

of the Today Programme's guest

editor series. He takes over the

0:28:230:28:29

show on the 27th of December and

gave the politicians and interview

0:28:290:28:33

advice ahead of the discussion.

0:28:330:28:35

Do I have to speak faster?

0:28:350:28:36

Because I'm a slow speaker.

0:28:360:28:37

Not at all.

0:28:370:28:38

Should I do a British accent?

0:28:380:28:40

If you start using long

pauses between answers

0:28:400:28:42

you're probably going

to get the face.

0:28:420:28:44

Let me see the face.

0:28:440:28:46

LAUGHTER.

0:28:460:28:49

I don't want to see that face.

0:28:490:28:50

It will be 40 minutes.

0:28:500:28:54

It will be a 20 minutes package

for the BBC for after Christmas,

0:28:540:28:57

and we hope to use the whole thing

as a podcast afterwards.

0:28:570:29:00

Excellent.

0:29:000:29:02

OK.

0:29:020:29:03

I'm ready.

0:29:030:29:04

Do you guys have sound?

0:29:040:29:07

Sounding great.

0:29:070:29:10

You're excited about this,

I'm nervous about this.

0:29:100:29:12

It's fine.

0:29:120:29:14

I'll interview you, if you want.

0:29:140:29:16

Let's keep it this way,

I'd much prefer that!

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