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The family of the four children

who died following a house fire

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in Salford this week

say the children were

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the best of friends.

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They were aged between three and 15

and their mother, who survived,

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remains in a coma and knows nothing

of what happened.

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How can I turn around

and say, they've gone?

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I can't even turn round and say

one's gone, all her young ones,

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all her babies, have gone.

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The police say the fire

was a targeted attack,

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three people have been

charged with murder.

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The family say the mother had called

the police before and the night

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of the fire claiming the family

was being harrassed.

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Also tonight -

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EU leaders give the official go

ahead for the Brexit talks

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to proceed to the next stage.

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A student is cleared of rape

after police fail to disclose

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evidence which could have

proved his innocence.

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Battle for the heartland of the ANC

- as South Africa's ruling party

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votes for a new leader

and to regain public trust.

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And can England hang

on in the Ashes?

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They need at least a draw

to avoid a series defeat.

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Coming up in sport on BBC News,

Britain's number two tennis player,

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Aljaz Bedene, switches back

to Slovenia in a bid to play

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at the next Olympics.

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Good evening.

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Relatives of the four children

who died in a housefire in Salford

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have said they don't know how

they will be able to tell

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the children's mother -

who is in a medically induced coma

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and likely to remain that

way for several weeks.

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15-year-old Demi Pearson,

three-year-old Lia,

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Lacie aged seven,

and Brandon who was eight died

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following the fire on Monday,

which police are calling

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a targeted attack.

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The children's grandfather says

the family had been harrassed before

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and the police had been called

on Sunday night but left.

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The house was set alight

a few hours later.

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Three people have been

charged with murder.

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Judith Moritz has been

speaking to the family,

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and is at police headquarters

in Manchester tonight.

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Judith.

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Yes, Fiona, I spent the afternoon

here with the Pearson family, with

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Mike Pearson, whose four

grandchildren have died, and whose

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daughter Michelle is now fighting

for her life in hospital. And with

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Michelle's brother and sister,

Claire and Chris. The family are in

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obvious pain and though it took all

of their strength, they told me that

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they wanted to speak publicly today

to show the world the scale of what

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they have lost.

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Brandon and Lacie was running

up-and-down the street.

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They just, they were so happy

that it was snowing.

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Brother and sister playing

in the snow last week.

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Brandon and Lacie Pearson

were inseparable.

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Lia was the baby of the family.

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Everyone doted on her.

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She melted your heart.

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You couldn't have a serious

face on with that child.

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She brought you so much happiness.

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Their teenage sister Demi

looked out for them all.

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Demi mothered them like they was

her own.

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They wasn't siblings, they were best

friends, the lot of them.

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Four young lives taken.

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Their mother Michelle

is badly burned in a coma.

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She doesn't know that

her children have died.

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How can I turn around

and say, "They've gone?"

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I can't even turn around

and say one's gone.

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All her young ones,

all her babies have gone.

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She's just going to say,

"Why have you brought me back?"

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"Why didn't you just let me go."

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This is the first time

her family has spoken

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of their pain, their loss,

and their memories of

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the night they saw fire

engulfing the house where

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the children and their mother

were asleep.

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There's not words what your eyes can

describe what you see.

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No, you can't describe what you see.

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I remember going down

the street and then just

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being surrounded by police officers.

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And I'm screaming at them,

screaming at them, and I'm calling

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them all sorts of names.

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You just wanted to go

in and help but you couldn't.

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Little Lia's life hung

in the balance for two days.

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Her auntie Claire comforted her

as she slipped away.

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They allowed me to cuddle her

and hold her as she passed.

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Did you speak to her?

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I spoke to her, I sang to her.

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It must have been so difficult.

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It broke me, it did.

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I didn't want to let

that little girl go.

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The police say that

the house was targeted.

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The family say Michelle complained

of being unsafe there.

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She'd said she'd actually been

to the housing that week and

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begged them to move her to a safe

house, or get her out of the area.

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Michelle's been unsafe in that

property for months and months and

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the police was aware of this.

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The council was aware of this.

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And I'm sorry to say this, but...

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People have let her down.

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They've let her down.

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And my sister and her kids

would have had a chance of

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survival if they did

their job properly.

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The family is broken, the pain

is raw and the loss is immeasurable.

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Judith Moritz, BBC News, Manchester.

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Judith Moritz speaking to the

Pearson family.

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EU leaders have agreed to move

Brexit talks on to the next phase,

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which will deal with the future

relationship between Britain

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and the EU once Britain leaves.

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Theresa May has called it

an important step on the road

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to a smooth and orderly Brexit.

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But the President of

the European Council, Donald Tusk,

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has warned it will be dramatically

difficult to reach a final deal

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by March 2019.

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Here's our political

editor Laura Kuenssberg.

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The men with the message.

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Part one is done.

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The European Union is ready to grant

the Prime Minister's

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wish and move on.

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She was a tough, smart,

polite and friendly negotiator.

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And so we were able to conclude that

sufficient progress has been made.

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To get this far on Brexit,

there has been some conflict

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and a lot of compromise.

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What is needed to get

to the end of the next phase,

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and is Theresa May's goal of a full

agreement by March 2019 realistic?

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Still realistic and, of course,

dramatically difficult.

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The real negotiations on the second

phase will start in March next year.

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I cannot say when these

negotiations will be concluded.

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But I don't hope that I will have

to have as early morning meeting

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with the British Prime Minister

than the one I had last week.

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Hopefully, with fewer

last-minute trips to Brussels

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in the middle of the night,

the negotiations step up.

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It has been a slog to get this far,

but their words this morning

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are part of our history now,

the official end of the beginning

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of our departure from

the European Union.

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It's taken time, but at last

the government's negotiating team

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can crack on with initial talks

about how we do business in future,

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and vitally the transition a couple

of years after Brexit itself.

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The UK and the EU have shown

what can be achieved by commitment

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and perseverance on both sides.

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I'm pleased that it's been agreed

we should make rapid progress

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on an implementation period,

which will give certainty

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to businesses and individuals.

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The EU's brokers believe

the Cabinet at home must

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bury their differences,

though, to give a clearer picture

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of how they want the future to look,

before getting a decent hearing.

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The divide within the Conservative

Party is going to make it very

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difficult for us to negotiate a way

through as a country.

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And Theresa May, ultimately,

has to be able to deliver

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for business here.

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Business need that certainty now.

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The 27 we are leaving behind don't

agree with much of what the UK has

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already put on the table,

especially during

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the transition period.

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They want the European Court to be

in charge during that whole time,

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for the UK to accept any changes

without a say, and for

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immigration to stay the same.

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This is a big junction.

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Phase two will be even

tougher, she warned.

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We would like it to look

as much like the current

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relationship as possible,

but that wouldn't necessarily be

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the view of everyone.

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It's a marathon race.

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We have just finished

the first mile.

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Given how far apart the two sides

were, and the distance

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between the different wings

of the Tory party,

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the Prime Minister might feel

entitled tonight to take a pause

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for breath, a moment to savour

having reached this junction.

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But with clashes in the Commons

to come, in the Cabinet,

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and contradictions between

the European Union and the UK,

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still, she has little time or energy

to waste on celebration.

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And to reach this point,

not even halfway, she's already

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had to yield so much.

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Indeed, at times it felt

like the Prime Minister simply

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might not make it even this far.

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It is a very long way still

until the end of this whole journey.

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Laura Kuenssberg,

BBC News, Brussels.

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The two sides now need

to finalise the Brexit

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withdrawal agreement,

and turn it into something

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legally binding.

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But negotiations are also

turning to the future.

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Chris Morris from the BBC's

Reality Check team looks ahead

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to what the next phase

of talks will be about.

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Nearly 18 months after

the referendum the EU and the UK are

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finally going to start

talking about the future.

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Negotiations will focus initially

on a transition period of

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roughly two years after Brexit, with

the aim of getting businesses some

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extra certainty.

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This transition will take

place under existing EU

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rules and regulations where things

mosly stay the same, except the UK

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no longer has a seat

at the decision-making table.

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For example, the EU says

the UK will have to

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follow all EU rules and regulations,

including new ones approved during

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the transition.

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The jurisdiction of the European

Court of Justice will

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still apply in full and free

movement of people will

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continue too.

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The EU says that means the UK

staying in the Single Market and

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Customs union.

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The British Government

doesn't agree and says we

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will leave both of these

on 29th March 2019.

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It could become a dispute

over a form of words but

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politically it's important.

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So, lots to negotiate.

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But time is short.

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If all goes to plan,

more EU guidelines

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will be issued next March,

allowing talks on the future

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relationship to start,

on things like security,

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foreign policy and,

of course, trade.

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The EU says formal trade

negotiations cannot begin legally

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until after the UK has left in 2019.

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The Government wants to be more

ambitious and finish trade talks

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as quickly as possible.

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But realistically, says the EU,

they will continue long after Brexit

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has actually happened.

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Chris Morris, BBC News.

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Our political correspondent

Ben Wright is in Westminster.

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The Brexit talks move onto phase two

- a good day for Theresa May?

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, yes, a big moment for Theresa

May's government, this first

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negotiating hurdle has been cleared

and now talks can move on, so I

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think there is great relief within

No 10. Tonight it seems too that the

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Government has swerved a potential

second defeat in the Commons next

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week when MPs vote on the

Government's plan to chisel into

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British law the precise date we

leave the European Union. March 29,

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2019. Opposition parties and a

number of Tory MPs are really

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worried about this and have said it

was boxing the Government in through

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the Brexit negotiations and didn't

recognise the fact that the deadline

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could be extended if the UK and all

EU countries agreed, so there was a

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rebellion brewing. But today a

number of Tory MPs from across the

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party have put forward a compromise

that keeps the date in law but also

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allows ministers to change it if

they think it needs to be. And

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perhaps for once all Tory MPs across

the board seem happy with the

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compromise. But as Laura said, there

are much bigger, tougher arguments

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to be had now within the government,

around the Cabinet table, about the

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precise sort of economic

relationship Britain wants with the

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European Union after Brexit.

Ben

Wright at Westminster, thank you.

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A judge has called for an inquiry

after a university student

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was cleared of rape because police

failed to disclose evidence which

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could have proven his innocence.

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22-year-old Liam Allan spent two

years on bail, before his trial

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at Croydon Crown Court was halted

when it was revealed his accuser had

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sent him thousands of text messages.

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He's been speaking

exclusively to Clive Coleman.

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The day after the case

against him was dropped,

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Liam Allan is coming to terms

with the end of

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a two-year nightmare.

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I was relieved, not just for myself,

but for everyone that's been with me

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every step of the way.

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And everyone it has impacted.

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It was just a huge, huge relief.

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You sort of get your life back.

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You don't realise that you've

lost parts of your life

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until you actually have

it completely done.

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The trial may be over, but

the strain it caused remains vivid.

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I'll be honest, I did start

to suffer from panic attacks,

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a couple of weeks before court,

which is why I said

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it was probably my worst time.

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Because you just, you have

to have your own reaction,

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panic attacks are an internal

reaction that you

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can't help yourself.

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But it is to be expected,

you can't not go through this

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and not panic and not fear,

and remain strong

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through the whole thing.

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It could bring the strongest person

in the world to their knees.

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Liam went on trial charged with six

rapes and six sexual assaults.

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His lawyers were repeatedly refused

access to his alleged

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victim's phone records.

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They were finally handed over

at the start of the trial.

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40,000 phone messages included

details which clearly

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suggested he was innocent.

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His trial at Croydon Crown Court

collapsed yesterday.

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She said she didn't

like sex with him.

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Text messages to say

she loves sex with him.

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There were rape fantasies,

there was sex in the open air.

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This was a 12-count indictment.

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If the defence hadn't got that,

that man would have been convicted,

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that man would have got 12 years,

that man would have had his life

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trashed, and on a sexual

offences register for ever.

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It's a fundamental principle

of our system that the prosecution

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must hand over any evidence that it

holds that could help

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the person on trial.

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Lawyers tell me that

Liam Allan's experience is far

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from a one-off and that there's

a widespread problem.

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The Metropolitan Police are carrying

out an urgent assessment the case.

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But for Liam, sorry

just won't do it.

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An apology just doesn't

feel like enough.

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The length of time I faced,

the fact that the person remains

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anonymous and I am everywhere

and got dragged through hell

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for the last two years,

apology doesn't even slightly cut

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it at all.

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Liam's case adds to mounting

concerns that the system

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for ensuring that those on trial

receive all of the evidence that

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could help their defence,

is failing far too often.

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Clive Coleman, BBC News.

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Six months ago we brought

you the story of Ian Shaw who has

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learning disabilities,

autism and epilepsy.

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He was diagnosed with testicular

cancer and in January was told

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he had three months to live.

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But after watching our report,

a psychiatrist got in touch,

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suggesting Ian's case should be

looked at again.

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It was, and Ian is now

responding well to treatment.

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Charities say it raises questions

about the care given to some people

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with learning disabilities,

as Alison Holt reports.

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September, and it's an important

moment in the Shaw household.

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34-year-old Ian will soon be

on his way to hospital.

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Going out for a drive,

Ian, in the ambulance?

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Yes, please.

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Yeah, please.

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Ian has learning disabilities,

autism, epilepsy and can't

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speak for himself.

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Morning, everyone.

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Hello.

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He also has testicular cancer.

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He's being taken for his second

round of chemotherapy,

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and that's a major change.

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At the start of the year, his family

was told

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he was terminally ill and had

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three months to live.

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He spent a long time in bed,

especially when I thought

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there was no treatment and no cure,

I just thought...

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Just a waiting game, but now,

it's like there is hope.

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I followed Ian's story

for ten months now because

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his family wanted others

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to understand how people

with learning disabilities

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are too often failed by the system.

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Only recently has it become

clear what that has meant for Ian.

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Turn the clock back to our report,

broadcast in July,

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and Ian was clearly ill.

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Difficult for his parents,

who believed his cancer should have

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been spotted sooner.

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He'd spent nine years

in secure health units

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because of his challenging

behaviour, and they felt

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he'd been overmedicated

and his health neglected.

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I was told there was no treatment.

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Because it'd been there a long time

and they couldn't treat it

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because it would be too much.

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It just wouldn't work,

it's gone too far.

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Watching that report

was Dr Justin Wilson,

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a psychiatrist who had researched

cancer treatments in people

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with learning disabilities.

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Knowing that testicular cancer

is one of the most treatable

0:17:550:17:57

cancers that there is,

I was surprised that a decision had

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been made not to provide treatment.

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I wanted to understand

what that was about.

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We put him in touch with the family.

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He suggested getting a second

opinion, which led to Ian having

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chemo at the Royal Marsden Hospital.

0:18:130:18:16

My concern was that

perhaps judgments are made

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about the quality-of-life

that he has, because of his severe

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learning disabilities

and because of the physical impact

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of how the cancer had spread.

0:18:230:18:27

I'm also clearly aware that

providing cancer treatment

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for somebody with the problems that

Ian has is a real challenge,

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but my view is that those

challenges can be overcome.

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Give me your hands...

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It is now November and

another big day for Ian.

0:18:410:18:44

He's being moved to a wheelchair

because the doctors

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want him up and about.

0:18:460:18:48

The cancer has affected his

spine, so he can't walk,

0:18:480:18:51

but he's doing really well.

0:18:510:18:53

Do you like it, Ian?

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After ten months stuck in a bed,

he's had enough of people talking.

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He's desperate to have

a chair, isn't he?

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Once moving, he doesn't

want to stop.

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The look on his face is fantastic.

0:19:040:19:08

There's still a long way to go

for Ian, but the change

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is staggering since I first met him,

and since his family was told

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there was no hope at the Luton

and Dunstable Hospital in January.

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In a statement the hospital says,

"A number of experts

0:19:210:19:23

were consulted about Ian's case.

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It was agreed that Mr Shaw was too

ill to undergo chemotherapy.

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It concludes his learning

difficulties were not a factor

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in the decision to move

to a palliative care pathway".

0:19:320:19:36

First time in the chair?

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For ages.

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He's over moon.

0:19:380:19:41

Dr Wilson and Bernadette Adams,

the family's advocate, haven't seen

0:19:410:19:43

Ian for a couple of months.

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Hello, how are you?

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I think we need to learn that people

with autism and learning

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disabilities have the same

rights as anyone else,

0:19:530:19:56

and there doesn't need to be

a barrier, we can make

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adjustments so that they get

the right treatment,

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at the right time.

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NHS England says it's working

to reduce the health inequalities

0:20:050:20:07

faced by people with learning

disabilities, but it didn't

0:20:070:20:09

want to comment on Ian's case.

0:20:090:20:12

The latest scan has shown

that his cancer is shrinking.

0:20:120:20:16

Give us a kiss!

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Alison Holt, BBC News.

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South Africa's governing

African National Congress

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is preparing this weekend to pick

a new party leader to replace

0:20:250:20:28

Jacob Zuma, who is also

the country's president.

0:20:280:20:30

The ANC is still the dominant

political force, but has faced

0:20:300:20:33

a loss of public trust.

0:20:330:20:35

President Zuma is facing corruption

allegations, which he denies.

0:20:350:20:39

The BBC's Africa Editor,

Fergal Keane, has travelled

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through the ANC stronghold

of the Eastern Cape.

0:20:410:20:46

Many dreams of freedom were born

here, died here and were reborn.

0:20:480:20:51

From its earliest days, the Eastern

Cape was an ANC stronghold.

0:20:510:20:55

New Brighton was where the party's

military wing was founded,

0:20:550:21:00

and the first South African township

I visited in the years of apartheid.

0:21:000:21:07

When I first came to this township,

more than 30 years ago,

0:21:070:21:10

the ANC were still banned,

Mandela was in jail,

0:21:100:21:12

Jacob Zuma was in exile.

0:21:120:21:15

But to the people who live here now,

that's all ancient history.

0:21:150:21:21

What they care about is

what the ANC hasn't done.

0:21:210:21:26

Anger over the failure to deliver

enough houses and services saw

0:21:260:21:29

people here force the closure

of this museum to the heroes

0:21:290:21:32

of the freedom struggle.

0:21:320:21:35

They've come in from

the rural areas...

0:21:350:21:39

Paul Mbewana is a lifelong

ANC supporter who led

0:21:390:21:42

the community protest.

0:21:420:21:43

He is astonished at the looting

of state resources that has

0:21:430:21:46

burgeoned under Jacob Zuma.

0:21:460:21:49

In fact, I'm disgusted with it,

because it's eating all

0:21:490:21:51

the resources which are meant

for the poor, the

0:21:510:21:56

poorest of the poor.

0:21:560:21:57

So they can't...

0:21:570:21:59

They can't benefit from services

and all those things.

0:21:590:22:06

But go north into still impoverished

rural areas and you are reminded

0:22:060:22:08

of an essential fact.

0:22:080:22:10

The virus of corruption,

moral and financial,

0:22:100:22:12

was present long before Zuma.

0:22:120:22:17

Here, tens of millions

were squandered by the white regime

0:22:170:22:19

to create so-called independent

homelands, where black

0:22:190:22:22

people were to be dumped

far from the cities.

0:22:220:22:26

It's partly that memory

that keeps older voters,

0:22:260:22:28

like this 77-year-old,

loyal to the ANC and Zuma.

0:22:280:22:36

"I like Jacob Zuma because he's part

of the ANC", she told me.

0:22:360:22:41

"He took us to freedom.

0:22:410:22:43

"Even if they remove him,

he took us to freedom".

0:22:430:22:49

But a culture of protest

is thriving in South Africa,

0:22:490:22:51

driven by a free press

and independent judiciary fighting

0:22:510:22:54

to rein in Jacob Zuma.

0:22:540:22:58

I came here to Fort Hare University,

alma mater of Nelson Mandela,

0:22:580:23:02

and four other African presidents,

and found students eager for change.

0:23:020:23:08

My perception of our politicians

is that they are people

0:23:080:23:11

who are self-absorbed,

who do not have the best interests

0:23:110:23:13

of the people of this country,

especially the poor people,

0:23:130:23:16

who fought for them to be in power.

0:23:160:23:20

Do not put the leaders that

are going to continue

0:23:200:23:26

with the culture of robbing poor

South Africans' money.

0:23:260:23:28

Bring leaders that are progressive,

that see vision, that see progress,

0:23:280:23:31

that want to improve the lives

of South Africans.

0:23:310:23:34

That's my stand.

0:23:340:23:38

South Africa's strength has always

been the determination

0:23:380:23:40

of the majority to confront

injustice, whether

0:23:400:23:42

racism or corruption.

0:23:420:23:45

It's that spirit which will demand

accountability from whoever

0:23:450:23:48

ends up leading the ANC.

0:23:480:23:50

Fergal Keane, BBC News

in the Eastern Cape.

0:23:500:23:57

The date has been announced

for Prince Harry and

0:23:570:23:59

Meghan Markle's wedding.

0:23:590:24:00

The service at St George's Chapel,

Windsor Castle, will take place

0:24:000:24:03

on Saturday May 19th.

0:24:030:24:05

That's something of a break

with tradition for the royal family,

0:24:050:24:08

whose weddings usually

take place on a weekday.

0:24:080:24:12

Cricket, and England failed

to capitalise on centuries

0:24:120:24:14

from Jonny Bairstow and Dawid Malan

on the second day of the third

0:24:140:24:17

Ashes Test against Australia.

0:24:170:24:18

They were bowled out for 403.

0:24:180:24:20

Australia, in reply, are 203-3.

0:24:200:24:24

Andy Swiss reports.

0:24:240:24:29

The Waca is traditionally

where Australian heroes are made,

0:24:290:24:32

but would this be another day

for English ones?

0:24:320:24:35

Well, it seemed so at first,

as Dawid Malan and Johnny Bairstow

0:24:350:24:38

picked up their marathon partnership

where they had left off, Bairstow

0:24:380:24:41

completing a superb century.

0:24:410:24:44

After his now infamous incident

in a Perth bar, he celebrated

0:24:440:24:46

by head-butting his helmet.

0:24:460:24:48

England were enjoying themselves.

0:24:480:24:52

But out of nowhere, guess what.

0:24:520:24:56

Malan went to a brilliant catch

by Peter Handscomb for 140.

0:24:560:24:58

And the rest crumbled

in all too familiar fashion,

0:24:580:25:02

losing their last six wickets

in 48 mind-boggling minutes.

0:25:020:25:08

They just made it to the 400

mark, but it should have

0:25:080:25:11

been so much better.

0:25:110:25:13

Well, to be all out by lunchtime

here wasn't exactly

0:25:130:25:15

part of England's plan.

0:25:150:25:17

That was some batting collapse,

even by their standards,

0:25:170:25:19

and Australia are suddenly right

back in this.

0:25:190:25:23

So could England's bowlers

repair the damage?

0:25:230:25:27

Well, they made a decent start,

Craig Overton removing both openers.

0:25:270:25:29

But further chances slipped

through their fingers.

0:25:290:25:31

They were difficult ones,

but they proved damaging.

0:25:310:25:36

Usman Khawaja made a half century

by the time he was eventually

0:25:360:25:39

trapped leg before, and there was no

budging his skipper.

0:25:390:25:43

Steve Smith, still there on 92.

0:25:430:25:45

If only some of England's earlier

batting had shown such stickability.

0:25:450:25:49

A day which belonged to Australia

then, but a Test which England

0:25:490:25:53

can't afford to lose

is still tantalisingly poised.

0:25:530:26:02

Yes, England's bowlers resume here

in a few hours, knowing that they

0:26:050:26:11

need early wickets, especially the

Australian captain, Steve Smith.

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