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Nearly half a million people have passed their vote. If he is

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re-elected as Labour leader in about 45 minutes, Jeremy Corbyn has told

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me he will reach out to his opponents, MPs, to everyone. He

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said, I am very generous. Yet his challenger Owen Smith has already

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refused to serve in a Corbyn Shadow Cabinet if he loses. Can the party

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bring itself back together? We'll bring you the result

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and all the reaction from the party's MPs,

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members and the country. Our assistant political editor

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Norman Smith is here. The confidence and Jeremy Corbyn's

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camp is high, they think he could do even better than last year? It is

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sky-high, to be honest. I came upon the train last night with Jeremy

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Corbyn, this is one man who looked very relaxed, very self-confident,

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you talk to people in his team and they think they are on course to

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win, and big-time. Last time he got 59%, I think they think they can

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push that up to 65%, which would be a resounding victory. And it would

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be a shattering blow to his critics and would probably make him

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bombproof for the rest of this Parliament. So all of those MPs who

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think he is the problem, they will have another go at him, they had to

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get rid of him, I think that it's game over for them. There is no way

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they can move against him again after that size of victory. They

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have put up candidates against him, try to change the laws, try to

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stampede him into standing down when they all resigned from his front

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bench, they tried to keep him off the ballot paper. They have done

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everything to be to this man, and if he comes back with an even bigger

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majority, he is there at least until the general election. -- they had

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done everything to try to beat this man. So the critical question, how

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does he bring this party together? That is the acid test in our faces.

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He can mobilise and galvanise people, but can he bring this party

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together? The jury is out and it is a much, much harder task. I spoke to

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MP Heidi Alexander, who used to be Jeremy Corbyn's health spokesperson.

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I said to her, what did he have to do to bring you back on board? She

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said, really emphatically, to Arthur Shadow Cabinet elections, ie give us

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the chance to vote for people to be in the Shadow Cabinet. That is his

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only chance. It is the litmus test for many of the mainstream Labour

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MPs. He does that, then they are in a very difficult position. If Jeremy

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Corbyn said, OK, I know you are unhappy, I take your concerns on

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board, I will let you choose my Shadow Cabinet. At what pressure it

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puts on Labour MPs. How do they turn away and away and sulk and say, we

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are still not happy? It cranks up the pressure for them to come

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on-board. We have heard voices like Andy Burnham saying, come on, if

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Jeremy Corbyn gives you that you have to get on board and be

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constructed. The problem is, I don't think he will do that. It is a

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distraction, it has come out of the blue at the last minute, it is a big

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rule change. In other words, don't lose your breath. I think where the

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NEC meets this evening, they will say to him, will you allow Labour

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MPs to elect the Shadow Cabinet, he will fit into the middle distance,

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to never never land. Then the unity begins to fray already.

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Talking to the Shadow Chancellor McDonnell as he was finishing

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breakfast this morning, lots of MPs who have been critical, come and

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have a cup of tea with me, we can work this out, he said. There is no

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rush, by the sounds of things, we will have a consultation on

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democratic reform, in answer to the question about whether they will

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bring back Shadow Cabinet elections. It would be lovely if Labour plus

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back problems were so simple that a cup of tea could solve it. They are

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so entrenched in so deep, it is a massive task. But if Jeremy Corbyn

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increases his mandate, those MPs should get in line, plenty of

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members will say. Some Labour MPs think the problem, bluntly, is Mr

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Corbyn. But there is no resurrection for the Labour Party with him

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remaining leader. They take the view that nothing fundamentally has

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changed for this election. His approach will not change, he will

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still be the same Jeremy. He said that the other day, he was asked,

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what will you do differently? You said, I am the same Jeremy. They say

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that he is not up to being a leader, he is not organised but, worst of

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all, he is leading the party in the wrong direction. He is leading it

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away from emphasis on being a credible parliamentary opposition

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into becoming a different beast, a social movement. It is an entirely

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different concept. They think that is catastrophe. They think Mr Corbyn

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can galvanise a significant number of people, and he has. That is not

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the same as reaching out to the millions of people who do not give a

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toss about politics, they do not think about it until election time,

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it is irrelevant. Their fear is that he does not speak to those who elect

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governments. There is a clash, Mr Corbyn is at the centre of it and

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many Labour MPs think he has to go for Labour to recover. Those Labour

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MPs say that they have to win over Conservative and you get voters to

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win an election, and they do not think that Mr Corbyn is the man to

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do that because his policies are too far left? He is genuinely

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revolutionary with a small are, he is trying to change British

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politics. He does not have to speak to people like me all you, the

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mainstream media. He can go directly to people through social media, his

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army of party activists. He believes that through them engaging

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campaigns, opposing the closure of libraries and that local grassroots

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stuff you can influence people and change opinion. It is a totally

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different way of doing politics. If he is right, who knows what could

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happen? If he is wrong, as his MPs think, their fear is that the party

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is heading to utter annihilation, potentially terminal annihilation,

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at the next election. We expect the results at around 1145. We will

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bring about to you live. Now it is time to look at our Labour got to

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this point, the second leadership contest within 12 months.

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And here it is, ten o'clock, and we are saying

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the Conservatives are the

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Britain needs a Labour Party that can rebuild after

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this defeat, and now it's time for someone

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else to take forward the

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It doesn't have to be unfair, poverty isn't inevitable.

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REPORTER: Have you changed your position on air

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Mr Corbyn, will you allow your MPs a free vote?

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You're actually very rude, the way you

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Why is Adolf Hitler a vote winner, sir?

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The British people have spoken, and the answer is, we're

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Remain or Leave, many people felt that politics wasn't working for

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He was very half-hearted in the leadership he gave to Labour

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He's a good and decent man, but he is not a

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It might be in my party's interests for him to sit there, it's

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not in the national interests and I would say,

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Don't let those people who wish us ill divide us.

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Stay together, strong and united, for the kind of world we want to

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Great to be anti-austerity, great to have

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What is it we're going to do to try to change things in

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All solutions to these sorts of international crises do come

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Alan Smith has just arrived at the conference hall in Liverpool in the

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last few minutes. -- Owen Smith has just arrived. Let me see if I can

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see the expression on his face? I can't, I can tell you if he is...

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Who knows if he is feeling confident or not. You saw Heidi Alexander just

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behind him, who was supporting him. I had a chat with her a little

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earlier, she was very clear that Jeremy Corbyn had to Arthur Shadow

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Cabinet elections, that would be the only way, she said, he could bring

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critical MPs back on board. We would you to talk to an Alan Smith

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supporting MP, that she is stuck in a queue at the moment. So if she

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arrives, we will bring her into conversation with Clive Lewis, an

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MP, a supporter of Jeremy Corbyn, very close to him. He is also Shadow

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Defence Secretary. John Ashworth, MP for Leicester South joins us, you

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have driven up from Leicester this morning and you have a place in

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Jeremy Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet, but you have not backed by the Cabinet

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because of your place on Labour's ruling body, effectively, you did

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not think it would be appropriate? Likely was, what do you expect in

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about half an hour? Listening to the media and the commentary, if that is

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to go by Jeremy Corbyn will win. I don't what the margin will be by. I

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think we are all hoping that from there, I think the message Andy

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Burnham put out in the media this morning, that the party really has

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to get together. It can't go through another year like your video just

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showed. You don't want this to be an annual contest? How will that help

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is gained, for want of a better word, momentum as we begin to move

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forward -- how will that help us gain? We can't tolerate that. To be

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quite frank, speaking to most members, most colleagues I come

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across, they are tired, they are worn out, they want to move forward

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and find things that we do agree on. One of the key differences between

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now and the 1980s, which so many people compare this to, ideological,

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I think most of the party, when it comes to education, the NHS, public

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ownership of rail, investing in the economy, there is a consensus across

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the party, so let's try to focus on that and move forward. When we come

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together, we are a lot stronger and we can begin to take on what I think

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is a very fractious Conservative Party who have brought us to the

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cusp of a constitutional and economic disaster, potentially, with

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Brexit. We should be holding them to account and looking like a credible

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Government, I think we can do that if we come together.

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John Ashworth, are you one out? I have just got here! I think party

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members want is to start focusing on the Tories. The Tories are in a mess

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with their fiscal rules. A year ago they said they had a long-term

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economic plan... Are your fellow colleagues ready to unite behind Mr

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Corbyn should he be announced the winner? Are they ready to unite

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behind Mr Corbyn, should he win? I think they will recognise he has

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won, I anticipate he will win by quite a handsome margin. There has

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been speculation of 65 or 70%. I hope they do unite. Equally, I want

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Jeremy... I have to be honest, you don't sound confident. Let me

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finish. Jeremy should also engage in these discussions offered about

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having some elected form of Shadow Cabinet, not the whole Shadow

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Cabinet, that would be silly. We have an NEC meeting this week, we

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said we would like to try to have some discussions, ideally, to get to

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a position by the NEC meeting tonight. I have been discussing

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behind the scene and urging Jeremy and his team to engage positively, I

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hope we can get somewhere. But not by 6pm tonight, presumably, or is

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that possible? I think the deputy leader Tom Watson said he did not

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think it was possible by 6pm? I hope so, by the National executive

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meeting -- on the national executive meeting on Tuesday we said, let's

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try to get somewhere by Tuesday. John McDonnell said we would open

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consultation, we will not rush it because we don't want to into this.

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John will understand this, when we go back to Parliament in a couple of

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weeks, we had to fill the 60 vacant places on the front bench. We have

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great ministers, people who have been rapidly promoted are doing a

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great job, but we need other colleagues in there. If this is a

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way of getting them back, we need to positively engage. Wattel Mr Corbyn

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do? The PLP is not homogenous, and we

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understand that if Jeremy Corbyn wins again for a second time, having

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what we had is not acceptable. There are more people now who are going to

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say, OK, we understand that perhaps many of us did not quite give you

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the chance that you deserved - we are going to give you that now, but

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that requires some trust, and I think in conflict resolution, both

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sides have to say, you did not play fair last time, there were things we

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did not do right, let's put that to the side and come together. That

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does take a bit of trust, because what Jeremy Corbyn is going to have

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to do, he may well win handsomely, but he will have to, effectively, if

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he allows elected a Shadow Cabinet members onto his Shadow Cabinet, he

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will be saying, I am going to trust you, you are not going to spend time

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boxing me in, undermining me, going through the process that we did in

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the first Shadow Cabinet. I think that is a leap of faith that he will

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have to take, potentially. I do not know his mind, but there will have

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to be a meeting in the middle. You know what the mood music is, is he

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heading towards that? I do not think anyone in the leader's office wants

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to see things carry on as they are, that is a powerful incentive. So

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Jeremy Corbyn must compromise, and there is an onus on the critical

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backbench MPs. If it goes ahead, if something like that is sorted out,

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it cannot be a platform to basically spend another year undermining the

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leader. So the deal would be, you can vote for who you want in the top

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team, as long as you do not criticise the leader. You are

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suggesting that as a possibility. I think that is fair and a spot-on,

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and that is the approach I have been taking when I have been talking to

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people behind the scenes this week. Ultimately, we have to remember that

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it is all very interesting what we think, it is what the public think,

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and we might have a general election next year, I don't know, but we have

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got important county council elections, mayoral collections,

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Scottish elections, and the party will focus on them, and we have to

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speak to people in the country and get them to vote Labour next year.

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That is the big message from conference. How do you explain

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Jeremy Corbyn being so attractive to certain people, which swelled Labour

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membership, no problem recruiting members, but when it comes to the

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wider electorate, he is not popular? In the taxi on the way here, my taxi

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driver, working-class, Liverpudlian, said, who are you supporting? I know

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it is anecdotal, but we all tell anecdotal stories, and I thought,

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there we go, I support Jeremy Corbyn. He said, good, I am a

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working class person, and I am so pleased, I hope you keep Jeremy

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Corbyn, because he is talking in a way that we have not heard

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politician speak, we are sick and tired of the same old rubbish. He's

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the only Leader of the Opposition, excluding Michael Foot, since the

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1970s, who has had negative ratings from the start of his ten-year and

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has carried on that way. At the start of his tenure, he was not far

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off the incumbent, he was likely be low. He was a new person, many did

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not know him, and he had a negative media profile on his way up. What

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you cannot take out of that equation, though, is the fact that

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the public do not like, as Jonathan was saying, divided parties. That is

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going to have an impact. Jeremy Corbyn is the face of the Labour

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Party, he dominates the media headlines. So if the party unites,

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those negative ratings will turn to positive? If the party unite and we

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are moving in the right direction, of course it is incumbent upon

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Jeremy Corbyn to play his part in moving those ratings in the right

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direction. Final thought, how will you measure success if he wins? We

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have to start making good progress in next's election, not set some

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ridiculous targets and say, oh, he has missed it, but progress in the

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constituencies that the side general elections. All the energy we have

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seen in the campaign, 40,000 people working on Jeremy Corbyn's campaign,

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some great stuff online - let's take that and targeted at the people that

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we need to win in the country. If we can do that, we will have a positive

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outcome. Thank you both very much. Let's cross to Vicki Young, who is

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at a rally up the road, morning! Hi there, this is a festival going

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on here, four days of looking at politics, looking at culture, and it

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really is a carnival atmosphere, lots of people crowding into a very

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hot room to see the result. They all expect and hope Jeremy Corbyn to be

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re-elected as Labour leader. Let's speak to one of the organisers,

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Hattie Craig, white are you doing this? This is to bring together the

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much wider social movement which exists in Britain, all the people

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involved in the campaigns, to reconnect with the Labour Party. We

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are bringing in ordinary people who might not have been engaged with

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politics at Westminster, but who would be interested in hearing talks

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and discussions on issues relevant to their lives, seeing political

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screenings, and it is to bring together as many different voices as

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possible. There has been some controversy around Momentum, people

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saying this is rivalling the Labour Party conference, you are trying to

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undermine it, what do you say to that? Absolutely not, there is a

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fringe for the conference every year, it is part of a long-standing

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tradition, so we are taking part of the fringe event. This is not a

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conference, it is not decision-making, it is a place for

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discussion, art and culture, and it is to complement the conference, not

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as a rival. How would you describe Jeremy Corbyn's appeal? Since he

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became leader, we have seen thousands of people joining the

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Labour Party, what do you think it is down to? He offers a different

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vision for society, a sense of hope and reconnection to ordinary people.

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He comes across as being different from politicians, he is an ordinary

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man, he does not claim maximum expenses, he has not been a banker

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or had a high-flying previous job in the financial sector. I think he

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speaks to people, and the policies that he is putting forward on the

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table are just so very different from what we have seen from Labour

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for so many years, and they are really inspiring people. What have

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you felt about what has been going on in the Labour Party? Most of his

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MPs walked out on him, how can they come back together? I found it very

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disappointing, the way that the PLP has behaved. It is very important

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that our elected representatives respect the mandate that the

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leadership is given by the members, so I would like to see, in this

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period, hopefully reconciliation processes where MPs respect the

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democratic mandates that Jeremy Corbyn has been given, and he brings

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them back in as well. Thank you very much indeed. Everyone getting pretty

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excited now before that result, 750 people here, we are being told.

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Cheers, Vicki, thank you for the moment. Back in the conference

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centre, Norman, who are you with? I am with Matt Wrack of the Fire

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Brigades Union and David Anderson, a member of the Shadow Cabinet, two

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jobs at the moment. Let's talk about Shadow Cabinet, how critical is it

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that members of the Labour PLP, Labour MPs, can elect the Shadow

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Cabinet, or is it all irrelevant? It is very relevant, it is how we go

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about it. The NEC agreed to have a proper look last week, they put out

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a number of options, to work through to a situation where we can come

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together and have a Shadow Cabinet that reflects all parts of the

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party, which is what we really need. The idea of just having Labour MPs

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elected the Shadow Cabinet, is it acceptable? As I said before, we are

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in the middle of a review, and I think it will say, is there a

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mechanism by which members can take part? Is there a role for them to

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appoint some people, and can me and my colleagues also say who we want

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to elect? But you will know there are some Labour MPs who say, unless

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they can elect to go to the Shadow Cabinet, they are not joining the

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front bench. That is their choice, but we are a member based party,

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those people should have some say in what we do and how we work, and how

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best we pulled together. That is what this week is about, how best to

:24:18.:24:23.

serve the country. Matt Wrack, you are a Corbyn supporter, what do you

:24:24.:24:27.

say to the Labour MPs who, despite the expected win for Mr Corbyn say,

:24:28.:24:33.

no, we will not get back on board? Let's see what happens today,

:24:34.:24:36.

obviously I hope Jeremy is re-elected, and I hope, if that is

:24:37.:24:40.

the outcome, people will unite around it. We won an election just a

:24:41.:24:45.

year ago, unfortunately some people did not accept that outcome. In the

:24:46.:24:51.

trade union movement and among Labour Party members, there will be

:24:52.:24:54.

very much a mood to get around those ideas and policies that people have

:24:55.:24:58.

voted for. If Mr Corbyn wins, does it make him politically bombproof in

:24:59.:25:03.

terms of future possible challengers before the next election? I am not

:25:04.:25:06.

accountable for what other people do, I was surprised that this

:25:07.:25:11.

election happened. I think it was unnecessary, in such a short space

:25:12.:25:14.

of time after the last leadership election. But that was what

:25:15.:25:19.

happened, and if people want to do that again, that is a matter for

:25:20.:25:23.

them. I would hope not. The job that working people want to see who's

:25:24.:25:26.

taking on the Tories, what devastating public services,

:25:27.:25:29.

attacking our rights, and we want to see the Labour Party in Parliament

:25:30.:25:34.

leading on that. And this leadership election, how damaging has it been

:25:35.:25:38.

for the party? I think it has been somewhat damaging, I think the

:25:39.:25:43.

discord in the Parliamentary Labour Party has been the primary source of

:25:44.:25:48.

that. And I think that a lot of MPs have gone back to their

:25:49.:25:50.

constituencies and felt very clearly the views of Labour Party members,

:25:51.:25:56.

many of them, and trade unionists, did not think this was necessary and

:25:57.:25:59.

should have been avoided. What you think of the impact of this contest

:26:00.:26:04.

on the party? We have at three months of internal navel-gazing when

:26:05.:26:06.

we should have been attacking the Tory government. The Prime Minister

:26:07.:26:12.

gave this country the biggest headache it has ever had, and he

:26:13.:26:16.

walked away, and what are we doing? Arguing with each other. We need to

:26:17.:26:21.

do what we are paid to do, get into parliament, work together, oppose

:26:22.:26:24.

this government, but forward a platform so that the people of this

:26:25.:26:29.

country have an alternative. David Anderson, Matt Wrack, thanks very

:26:30.:26:32.

much for your time, I will let you get into the conference hall. You

:26:33.:26:36.

can just see people beginning to trickle into the conference hall,

:26:37.:26:39.

they had better get a shift on, and I think Tom Watson, Vic, has also

:26:40.:26:46.

just arrived, if I am not mistaken. Yes, we saw the pictures of him

:26:47.:26:50.

walking in, thank you very much, Norman. We have five Labour members

:26:51.:26:55.

here, Alice is a councillor and Labour member. James, what have you

:26:56.:27:02.

made of the contest? It has got in the way of activities, we have had

:27:03.:27:06.

to suspend meetings because of intimidation, and I think, you know,

:27:07.:27:10.

it has stalled the party for quite some time. I am not happy with

:27:11.:27:14.

Jeremy Corbyn's leadership, and I think it was essential to encourage

:27:15.:27:19.

debate about where the party is heading. Have you been intimidated

:27:20.:27:24.

by someone? I have received threats and intimidation. Verbally, online?

:27:25.:27:30.

Mostly on social media. You think that is because you are an Owen

:27:31.:27:35.

Smith supporter? I do not define myself as an Owen Smith supporter, I

:27:36.:27:40.

have voted for him, but I think that is because I am not part of the

:27:41.:27:45.

exclusive Momentum group, that is why I am a victim of abuse. Andy,

:27:46.:27:50.

what have you made of this contest? I think the contest was needed

:27:51.:27:53.

because the PLP did not have confidence in Jeremy Corbyn, and

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what we see is a party divided between the Members of Parliament

:27:59.:28:01.

and the members of the party, and we did need this to clarify that, and

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this has clarified that, and that was the tendency to stand behind the

:28:07.:28:11.

leader. Are you expecting it to be Jeremy Corbyn? I am expecting it to

:28:12.:28:14.

be Owen Smith, I am still optimistic, I think he can win.

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Alice, you supported Jeremy Corbyn last time, you have supported him

:28:20.:28:23.

this time. I will support him again if I have to! You don't want this to

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become an annual thing do you? It is less than annual, it is a waste of

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time and resources, the Labour Party is better than this, and I am so

:28:34.:28:37.

glad Jeremy stuck with it, because I will stick with him. What as the

:28:38.:28:45.

contest achieved? Nothing, it has damaged Labour's chance is a letter

:28:46.:28:49.

read. We were and neck before the coup, and now we are 12 points

:28:50.:28:54.

behind. This did not have to happen, the Tories were in disarray after

:28:55.:28:58.

the Brexit vote, and we could have got behind our leader and supported

:28:59.:29:03.

him and had one over on the Tories, uniting as a real opposition to the

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Tories. Instead, MPs decided to take the opportunity to elect a new

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leader, but the party overwhelmingly supports Jeremy Corbyn. Showed his

:29:13.:29:16.

name be announced as the winner, how will you feel? I will be made up,

:29:17.:29:21.

because I support Jeremy Corbyn! What about yourself? I honestly

:29:22.:29:27.

didn't see the point of this leadership election, because I

:29:28.:29:31.

thought that it would only lead to the people who support Corbyn to be

:29:32.:29:35.

galvanised, and he would increase his majority, and therefore the PLP

:29:36.:29:41.

would be more fractured. But seeing the testimonies of different MPs,

:29:42.:29:45.

saying how they cannot communicate with Jeremy Corbyn, I was compelled

:29:46.:29:49.

to vote for Owen Smith, even though I know he is not going to win.

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Thank you all very much. Not long to go now. We expect the outcome in

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around 15 minutes, but these things are often, inevitably, a little

:30:05.:30:09.

later than scheduled. Let's take a closer look at the two men who want

:30:10.:30:14.

the job of leading Labour, starting with Mr Corbyn.

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# I ride my bicycle in the rain and I feel like Jeremy Corbyn...#

:30:17.:30:23.

He's been a fixture of British politics for 40 years,

:30:24.:30:26.

a regular at marches, a champion of causes.

:30:27.:30:29.

There are social solutions to the problems,

:30:30.:30:31.

and the solution is socialism at the end of the day!

:30:32.:30:36.

Jeremy Corbyn's political life started in the 1970s,

:30:37.:30:38.

a trade union organiser and Labour councillor in London.

:30:39.:30:46.

In 1983, just as Margaret Thatcher was winning a huge majority,

:30:47.:30:52.

winning last time with a 21,000 majority.

:30:53.:31:00.

But he was always a critic of New Labour,

:31:01.:31:02.

voting against the party line more than 500 times.

:31:03.:31:06.

More recently, he chaired the Stop The War Coalition,

:31:07.:31:10.

became a leading figure in the anti-austerity movement.

:31:11.:31:16.

Still, no-one gave him a chance when he entered the contest

:31:17.:31:18.

to succeed Ed Miliband as Labour leader.

:31:19.:31:21.

His campaign started attracting large crowds -

:31:22.:31:26.

The new leader promised a new type of politics.

:31:27.:31:43.

I sent out an e-mail to thousands of people and asked them

:31:44.:31:46.

what questions they would like to put to the Prime Minister.

:31:47.:31:52.

But while he had the support of Labour members,

:31:53.:31:54.

Jeremy Corbyn has never had the full backing of his own MPs.

:31:55.:31:59.

There were clashes over his policies on Syria

:32:00.:32:02.

and the new generation of nuclear weapons.

:32:03.:32:07.

The row came to a head after the EU referendum.

:32:08.:32:11.

One after another, his top team walked out.

:32:12.:32:13.

There was a vote of no-confidence

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I've served...in the best way I can, and today I had to go.

:32:16.:32:22.

But he refused to quit and stood again for re-election.

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The Labour Party saw a big increase in its membership,

:32:26.:32:28.

but the contest was at times bad tempered.

:32:29.:32:31.

There were allegations of abuse on both sides.

:32:32.:32:37.

There was a row over space on a train network -

:32:38.:32:39.

a game of Pokemon and a poor grasp of TV trivia.

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Do you know who these two men are? No, I don't.

:32:49.:32:52.

I cannot name them, I'm really sorry.

:32:53.:32:57.

Now opinion polls suggest an easy victory for Jeremy Corbyn.

:32:58.:32:59.

No longer the outsider - this time he's the firm favourite.

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We will have a look at Owen Smith in just a moment.

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Anuksha Asthana is political editor of the Guardian.

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Jim Waterson is Buzzfeed's political editor.

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If Jeremy Corbyn wins bigger than a year ago, then what? Them the role

:33:27.:33:33.

for him is to try to unite the party and see whether or not he can

:33:34.:33:37.

actually get more MPs behind him. There will be this crunch meeting of

:33:38.:33:42.

the party's national executive tonight, and I don't think Jeremy

:33:43.:33:45.

Corbyn is ready to sign in to any deal about how he puts together his

:33:46.:33:49.

Shadow Cabinet particularly if, as you say, as is well expected, he did

:33:50.:33:55.

even better than last year. But he still has to operating Westminster,

:33:56.:34:03.

his people know that. What is the issue for you, Jim, should Jeremy

:34:04.:34:06.

Corbyn be confirmed as leader again in a few minutes? The main issue for

:34:07.:34:09.

the auntie Corbyn members and activists is whether they bother to

:34:10.:34:14.

remain within the Labour Party. If they get completely trounced, what

:34:15.:34:18.

we will see is an effort to try to people -- try to keep people within

:34:19.:34:21.

the party. If you support Owen Smith, they will try to reach out to

:34:22.:34:25.

you to keep paying your membership sub in case of another election. But

:34:26.:34:29.

they have a long way back. There is a lot of ideas, a lot of structure.

:34:30.:34:36.

Corbyn's site has ideas, Momentum, everything.

:34:37.:34:44.

Owen Smith was virtually unknown outside Westminster until recent

:34:45.:34:46.

weeks. One party activist told me they had been an activist for years

:34:47.:34:51.

and had never heard of him until this contest, the Conti Breed MP

:34:52.:34:52.

Owen Smith. -- the Pontypridd MP. Hi, I'm Owen Smith and I'm

:34:53.:34:58.

standing to be the leader Even his biggest supporters

:34:59.:35:00.

would concede that. Owen Smith used to work

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at the BBC, then as an adviser I'm going to be wandering

:35:06.:35:07.

about and telling people... In 2006, he stood for election

:35:08.:35:13.

for the first time, losing Politics is about the people,

:35:14.:35:18.

but I think it's also about power. By then, he was working

:35:19.:35:26.

for the American drugs company Pfizer in its Government

:35:27.:35:29.

relations team. Four years later he stood

:35:30.:35:32.

for Parliament again, He was promoted quickly, first

:35:33.:35:33.

as Labour's Shadow Welsh Minister, and then a key role in charge

:35:34.:35:43.

of the party's policies He was never an outspoken

:35:44.:35:46.

critic of Jeremy Corbyn, but after the EU vote he was one

:35:47.:35:57.

of the 52 MPs who walked out I cannot see how he can

:35:58.:36:00.

continue, and we desperately It was one of his colleagues,

:36:01.:36:06.

Angela Eagle, who made the first move, challenging

:36:07.:36:11.

for the leadership. Soon, though, it was clear

:36:12.:36:14.

Owen Smith had more support. Angela Eagle, gay with no children,

:36:15.:36:18.

stepped aside, but only after Smith had stressed his

:36:19.:36:20.

normal family background. I was in no way implying that

:36:21.:36:25.

anybody who's got a different sexuality or a different lifestyle

:36:26.:36:28.

to me is anything other He launched his campaign

:36:29.:36:30.

with a raft of policies... Ending university tuition fees,

:36:31.:36:46.

building more council houses, a second EU referendum. That's what we

:36:47.:36:47.

need. But his rallies were more low-key

:36:48.:36:50.

at a time when Corbyn and his team were packing out town halls

:36:51.:36:53.

with their supporters. He was forced to defend his past

:36:54.:36:55.

and his background working And that was the answer

:36:56.:36:58.

we were after. There were a series of debates -

:36:59.:37:05.

in Newcastle, Glasgow, He was criticised for suggesting

:37:06.:37:09.

we should negotiate All solutions to these sorts

:37:10.:37:13.

of international crises do come And he warned of splits

:37:14.:37:18.

in the Labour Party The Labour Party is

:37:19.:37:25.

standing on the edge The people in the undecided section

:37:26.:37:28.

have moved and swelled the ranks It's grassroots Labour supporters

:37:29.:37:40.

who will decide this election, and they may prove far more

:37:41.:37:43.

difficult to win over. Still with us, the joint political

:37:44.:37:58.

editor of the Guardian and political editor of BuzzFeed News.

:37:59.:38:03.

Owen Smith surgery in the contest that if Jeremy Corbyn wins, the

:38:04.:38:08.

Labour Party will spread. Is that likely? -- Owen Smith said during

:38:09.:38:13.

the contest. I don't think so, most people do not think a split would be

:38:14.:38:18.

successful. Whether they like it or not, Labour is a very big brand in

:38:19.:38:24.

this country, and they would not have that. So some people in the

:38:25.:38:31.

party would stay and fight for the backbenchers if he loses, as

:38:32.:38:36.

expected. Somebody sent me an Owen Smith emoji yesterday, black glasses

:38:37.:38:40.

and a yellow face. He will take that away. If Jeremy Corbyn wins, and

:38:41.:38:45.

critical Labour MPs cannot get behind him, is there hope of getting

:38:46.:38:52.

rid of him, an early general election? I can't imagine. The only

:38:53.:38:56.

way you will get rid of Jeremy Corbyn now, as I see it, is if he

:38:57.:39:01.

quits or there is mass disillusionment among the Labour

:39:02.:39:05.

members. I have written a fantastic piece for BuzzFeed today, it looks

:39:06.:39:09.

at how there is not the support infrastructure around Owen Smith,

:39:10.:39:13.

there is not the moderate centrist Labour organisation. Jeremy Corbyn

:39:14.:39:16.

might struggle in a general election, but in terms of winning an

:39:17.:39:21.

internal Labour election he is a cut above. The old campaign teams who

:39:22.:39:25.

have won elections internally for Tony Blair, Gordon Brown etc, their

:39:26.:39:29.

skills do not work in the same way any more and they need to go away,

:39:30.:39:36.

think about running a campaign and think about and using the Labour

:39:37.:39:38.

voters. Theresa May promised there would not be an early general

:39:39.:39:44.

election, why are you rating your eyebrows, Anuksha? A lot in the

:39:45.:39:47.

Labour Party think she would go for an early general election, perhaps

:39:48.:39:51.

if she thinks it would get rid of Jeremy Corbyn and he is a weak

:39:52.:39:54.

leader than that would be an argument for her to wait longer. It

:39:55.:39:58.

is interesting what Jim is saying, they had a huge number of members,

:39:59.:40:03.

the Labour Party. Can they mobilise that in a way to help them? Lots of

:40:04.:40:08.

it is starry eyed about Jeremy Corbyn, people talk about the cult

:40:09.:40:14.

of Corgan. Just outside here I had a bloke tell me that he loved Jeremy

:40:15.:40:18.

Corbyn, partly because of his initials, JC, the man was a

:40:19.:40:22.

Christian. That was a bit weird. But can they do something with what they

:40:23.:40:27.

have built in the party? Sources at the Guardian saying Jeremy Corbyn

:40:28.:40:31.

has won. I am not quite sure the margin. I think you could have

:40:32.:40:38.

pointed to this at various points over the last few weeks. They have

:40:39.:40:44.

obviously spoken to somebody. Let's speak to Norman Smith in the

:40:45.:40:47.

conference hall. What are you hearing?

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I think that is a fairly safe bet that Jeremy Corbyn has won, I am not

:40:53.:40:56.

sure it is breaking news, I think everybody expects that. The question

:40:57.:41:01.

is whether he increases his mandate from the 59% he got last year, loose

:41:02.:41:06.

chatter around whether he can push it to 65%. I am joined by Louise

:41:07.:41:11.

Ellman, Liverpool MP, chair of the transport select committee. If Mr

:41:12.:41:15.

Corbyn wins, doesn't it open up not just a rift between him and Labour

:41:16.:41:23.

MPs but also an emerging rift between the parliamentary party and

:41:24.:41:25.

ordinary party members, who appear to back Mr Corbyn? If Jeremy wins,

:41:26.:41:31.

as expected, I think that is a great challenge for Jeremy. He has to

:41:32.:41:35.

understand that while it is great to have adoration from your own

:41:36.:41:38.

supporters within the party, and that is terrific and infuses you, it

:41:39.:41:43.

is nowhere near enough. He has to get the support of the electorate,

:41:44.:41:48.

the people who vote in the general election, that is very different.

:41:49.:41:53.

Some people say he has become intoxicated by the selfie culture,

:41:54.:41:56.

the fan club and personality culture. He is enjoying going from

:41:57.:42:03.

meeting to meeting of people already committed to him, cheering him. It

:42:04.:42:07.

is wonderful being surrounded by your fans. But he is the Leader of

:42:08.:42:11.

the Opposition, who want to be the party of Government, and the people

:42:12.:42:15.

who can make that happen are not just those who already agree with

:42:16.:42:19.

him, it is the general public. Add to now, they are not impressed and

:42:20.:42:24.

things have to change. Key to the pleas of unity seems to be the issue

:42:25.:42:28.

of the elections to the Shadow Cabinet, allowing Labour MPs to

:42:29.:42:32.

choose who serves. If Mr Corbyn does not bite on that, is there any

:42:33.:42:37.

prospect of unity with the PLP? I think the key thing is for Jeremy

:42:38.:42:43.

Corbyn, if re-elected leader, to reach out to the electorate and have

:42:44.:42:46.

a Shadow Cabinet that he is -- that is looking outwards, not inwards.

:42:47.:42:51.

Developing policies, arguing effectively, challenging the

:42:52.:42:54.

Government in Parliament but reaching outward to the community,

:42:55.:42:58.

not just the membership. How he does that is a separate issue, but that

:42:59.:43:03.

is the task and the challenge. Talking to one of his key allies

:43:04.:43:08.

this morning, he said that elections to the Shadow Cabinet are a

:43:09.:43:11.

distraction, it has come out of the blue, it is a major rule change, ie

:43:12.:43:17.

it is not happening. If it does not, would you advise Labour MPs to stay

:43:18.:43:22.

on the backbenchers or get involved? Individuals will have to make their

:43:23.:43:26.

own decisions. I would say we need to work together and the unified,

:43:27.:43:30.

but that is about working with the membership, yes, but above all with

:43:31.:43:34.

the general public, to win a general election and put right some of the

:43:35.:43:42.

dreadful wrong is being carried out, day by day. It is no good being

:43:43.:43:45.

surrounded by people who already agree with you.

:43:46.:43:47.

Andy Burnham want this morning that if the party did not unite, it could

:43:48.:43:54.

face terminal decline? The warning is very timely, we had

:43:55.:43:58.

to unite on the basis of reaching out to the electorate and the

:43:59.:44:02.

general population to argue the Labour case for our credibility to

:44:03.:44:06.

be the next Government, that is what the Parliamentary Labour Party is

:44:07.:44:10.

all about, Labour is a Parliamentary party. You risk missing the big

:44:11.:44:15.

announcements, so I will let you go. Here is the ticket you need to get

:44:16.:44:20.

in. We are getting pretty close to blast off for that announcement as

:44:21.:44:32.

to who has won, which will be put up on a big screen and will show as how

:44:33.:44:35.

each of the different sections have voted, how much support Mr Corbyn

:44:36.:44:37.

got from party members, registered supporters and the affiliated

:44:38.:44:39.

supporters in the trade unions, so we will see what support the

:44:40.:44:43.

candidates have in each area. Guardian reporter Heather Stewart on

:44:44.:44:48.

Twitter says, I am hearing Jeremy Corbyn has won with 62% of the vote,

:44:49.:44:54.

up on last year. He got just under 60% last year. That is what the

:44:55.:44:58.

Guardian has said in the last few minutes.

:44:59.:45:02.

If that is right, Team Corbyn will present but as further consolidation

:45:03.:45:12.

of their mandate. It has not gone up to 65%, as there were some

:45:13.:45:14.

suggestions, but he has boosted his mandate in the party. More than

:45:15.:45:19.

that, he has built up the party, 551,000 members, around half a

:45:20.:45:23.

million people, took part in this contest. He has brought 41,000

:45:24.:45:28.

volunteers on board. For somebody in post for a year, who has taken all

:45:29.:45:33.

the hits and attacks he has had, the divisions, to still be building

:45:34.:45:37.

support, his team will present but as a big win and a further

:45:38.:45:41.

consolidation up his mandate. I think it raises a serious question

:45:42.:45:46.

for his critics of what they do now, and whether they can credibly keep

:45:47.:45:51.

digging away, trying to undermine him. You know, they have tried to

:45:52.:45:56.

take him on in a leadership contest and lost, not only have they lost

:45:57.:46:00.

but it appears to be a big-time loss. This contest has achieved

:46:01.:46:04.

exactly what they did not want, far from being weakened, which was the

:46:05.:46:09.

hope, that is mandate would go down, it appears his mandate has been

:46:10.:46:13.

strengthened. Now I would reckon Mr Corbyn is almost bombproof now,

:46:14.:46:17.

until the next election. I cannot see who on earth would challenge

:46:18.:46:22.

him. Angela Eagle originally triggered this contest and then

:46:23.:46:26.

pulled out, Owen Smith went for it, saying I am the better candidate, I

:46:27.:46:30.

can build more people behind me. Does not really seem to happen. So

:46:31.:46:34.

you had to ask who is this mysterious challenger who can

:46:35.:46:40.

credibly take on Jeremy Corbyn. You are scratching your head, thinking,

:46:41.:46:44.

I don't see this person. Translated into English it means they're

:46:45.:46:48.

probably will not be under the leadership contest. Added to which,

:46:49.:46:53.

Mr Corbyn has built this huge support with Momentum. They have got

:46:54.:46:57.

their conference within a conference going on at the same time. He has

:46:58.:47:01.

built outside Parliament this massive body of support which no

:47:02.:47:06.

other Labour leader had done. The striking thing, it is personal

:47:07.:47:09.

support. They are not just signing up to the Labour Party and Labour

:47:10.:47:14.

Party values, they are signed up to Jeremy Corbyn. Without being trite,

:47:15.:47:19.

they are his fan club, it is almost a personality cult around Jeremy

:47:20.:47:22.

Corbyn, because he is a different political leader. He does not do

:47:23.:47:35.

things the same way as everyone else, does not play by the normal

:47:36.:47:37.

rules. People like that because they think it is not business as usual,

:47:38.:47:40.

he is an alternative leader with a different vision. The difficulty is

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that many MPs simply do not believe it will translate into electoral

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victory. For all the selfies, adulation and the big rallies, it

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simply won't translate into votes at the ballot box, that is what they

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believe matters. I think things are beginning to warm

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up in the hall. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the chair of the National Executive

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Committee, Paddy Lillis. APPLAUSE

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Thank you, conference. I will now be announcing the votes cast for each

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candidate. We will also show the number of votes cast by each

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candidate of elector. Full details of the results will be available on

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the Labour Party website following this event. The result of the

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election for the leader of the Labour Party is as follows. The

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number of eligible voters is 654,006.

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APPLAUSE The number of eligible voters

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casting a vote in this contest is 506,000 438. -- 506,438. The number

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of spoiled votes was 432. The votes cast for each candidate are as

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follows. Jeremy Corbyn, 313,000... APPLAUSE

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Owen Smith, 193,000 229. -- 193,229. Conference, this

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represents the percentage of votes cast as follows. Jeremy Corbyn,

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61.8%. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Owen Smith, 38.2%. APPLAUSE

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Conference, on these screens is also shown the breakdown of votes cast

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for each candidate by members, affiliate supporters and registered

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supporters. I am delighted to declare Jeremy

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Corbyn elected as leader of the Labour Party. Please, Jeremy.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE VICTORIA: DELIGHTED JEREMY CORBYN,

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HAVING INCREASED HIS MANDATE AND LAST YEAR, handing over, Paddy

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Lillis, we are expecting Mr Corbyn to say a few words.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Paddy, thank you very much for the

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announcement you have just made, thank you all for being here today.

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I want to thank the more than 300,000 supporters who have given me

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their support and trust in this Labour leadership election. I am

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honoured to have won the votes of the majority of members, affiliated

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supporters, and registered supporters. They have given me the

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second mandate in a year to lead our party.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE I want to thank all the volunteers

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in our amazing campaign, the tens of thousands who held all over the

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country in my campaign. I also want to thank all those volunteers that

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worked so hard and helped in Owen Smith's campaign as well.

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APPLAUSE Volunteers, and the work they have

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put in, the very lifeblood of democracy, and we have both had

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amazing sets of volunteers, so I say thank you to all of them for all

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they did over the summer. And... I want to say thank you to Owen Smith

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as well. Owen, we have added interesting some of debate all over

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the country, thank you very much for all of that, for the good

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discussions and good-humoured debate we have had, which no doubt we will

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continue, because we are part of the same Labour family, and that is how

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it is always going to be. That is how it is always going to be. Thank

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you. And it has been an amazing summer, we have had good weather, of

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course, and we have had events and rallies, hosting is debates all over

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the place, but it has been about our Labour family facing the future of

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how we do things together in the future. I will do everything I can

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to repay the trust and the support, to bring our party together, to make

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it an engine of progress for our country, and the people that depend

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on the Labour Party to protect their interests and wind power to deliver

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real change in this country. -- win power.

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Elections are passionate and often partisan affairs, things are

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sometimes said in the heat of debate, on all sides, which we

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sometimes later come to regret. But always remember, in our party, we

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have much more in common than that which divides us. As far as I am

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concerned... As far as I am concerned, let's wipe that slate

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clean from today and get on with the work we've got to do as a party

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together! We are proud, as a party, that we

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are not afraid to discuss openly, to debate, and to disagree. That is

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essential for a party that wants to change people's lives for the

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better, that isn't prepared to accept things as they are. It's also

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an essential part of what has trawled over half of million people

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into membership of what is now the largest political party anywhere in

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Western Europe. We have almost tripled our membership since last

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spring. Those new members are part of a nationwide movement who can now

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take our message into every community in the country, to win

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support for the election of a Labour government. Our party has a duty of

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care to our members. That means intervening to stop personal abuse,

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and also abiding by the principles of natural justice in the way that

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we handle it. Politics is demeaned and corroded by intimidation and

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abuse, it is not my way, and it is not the Labour away and never will

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be. APPLAUSE

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Now, friends, is the time for all of us to focus every ounce of our

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energy on exposing and defeating the Tories, and the damage they are

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doing to our country. Theresa May's government isn't a new government,

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it is David Cameron's government with a new hard right edge

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repackaged with progressive slogans. But threatening... But threatening

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to take the country backwards, and dithering as we face the historic

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challenges of Brexit, so if you believe that education is better

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than segregation, that we need an NHS that isn't threatened with

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breakdown and loaded with debt, that older people deserve dignity and the

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care they need in their own home, that we have a duty as a country to

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refugees and promote peace rather than conflict, if, like me, you

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believe it is a scandal that here in Britain, the sixth largest economy

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in the world, four million children are in poverty, 6 million workers

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are paid less than the living wage, and if like me you believe we can do

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things far better, then help us build support for a genuine

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alternative that will invest in our future, a more prosperous future in

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which the wealth we all create is shared more equally.

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APPLAUSE Together, arguing for the real

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change this country needs, I have no doubt that this party can win the

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next election, whenever the Prime Minister decides to call it, and

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form the next government. To do that, we need to work together. This

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time next week, we are all going to hit the streets, united as a party.

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I am calling on Labour Party members all over the country to join us in a

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national campaign for inclusive education for all next Saturday.

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APPLAUSE The Tories' plans for grabs cool

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segregation of our children exposed their divisive and damaging agenda

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for our country. -- grammar school segregation. My responsibility to

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this party is to unite, in conference at this week in the

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wonderful city of Liverpool, in Parliament, and in every community

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around the country. But it is also the responsibility of the whole

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party, member is Parliament, councillors, party members, and our

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wonderful supporters across the country, to work together and

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respect the democratic choice that has been made. -- Members of

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Parliament. Labour is a party brimming full of

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ideas, of talent, of creativity, and so is this country. Unleashing that

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potential is the job of all of us. Let us work together for real change

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in Britain. Thank you very much! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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STUDIO: Jeremy Corbyn applauding those who applaud him. Dave Margaret

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Beckett. Thumbs up to the crowd. He is getting a standing ovation.

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Jeremy Corbyn re-elected as Labour leader. The second time he has won

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this contest it just over 12 months, this time he increased his mandate,

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receiving 61.8% of the vote, last year he received just under 60% of

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the vote. We talked about the Labour family, he made a real point of

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saying that he and his challenger, Owen Smith, were members of the

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Labour family. He said Labour was an engine of progress and that they

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will win power to deliver real change in this country. He made a

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point that he said that during contests, heated things are said

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both sides that we might regret, but we have much more in common than

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that divides us. Norman, where you and who are you with?

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I'm just outside the conference hall where people are streaming out.

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Let's see if I can get an immediate reaction. What do you think about Mr

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Corbyn's victory, are you pleased? Very silent. What you make of Mr

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Corbyn's victory? Very disappointed. What do you make of it? My name is

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Louise Haigh on, the MP3 Sheffield Heeley. I was backing Owen,

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disappointed that he did not win, but congratulations to Jeremy. But

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from the polling it reveals that the movement is still divided, Jeremy

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failed to win over the long standard members, Owen failed to win over the

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newer members. Mr Corbyn did best with the so-called registered

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supporters. There has been huge controversy over these people who

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have paid ?25. How much did this influence the vote, people being

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energised, paying the ?25 signing up? He had an overwhelming majority,

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just as he did last year. I did not support registered supporters when

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Ed Miliband brought them in, I don't support them now and I don't think

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that they should have a role, but he also had a majority among newer

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members, so I don't think we can demean his victory. Again and again

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he said in his victory speech that we all have a responsibility to

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unite. The question is whether people like you in the PLP will

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unite behind him and willingly and constructively serve? I remain on

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the front bench, I am still a Shadow Minister and will be if he wants me

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to stay there. I said before I would get back to whether what elected.

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Jeremy is right, we all have a responsibility to unite the party.

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We need to see action from him, I want to see him back and elected

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Shadow Cabinet. We have to stop any talk about revenge all

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vindictiveness against those who did not support him this time, actions

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will speak louder than words, we have heard a lot of that over the

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summer. The time for talking is over, we need to see confidence from

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both sides. Back to you, Victoria. I will speak to the stress MP Chuka

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Umunna, who left Jeremy Corbyn's team and supported the no-confidence

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motion -- the stratum MP. How do you react? It was decisive, the

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leadership has been settled, we had to move forward. I absolutely agree

:03:26.:03:30.

with Jeremy Corbyn that we need to look outward, facing forward to the

:03:31.:03:34.

public, with a view of winning a general election. And we have to

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unified. Unity will not come about through demand, through threat,

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through the online thuggery that we have seen, which is why I am pleased

:03:45.:03:48.

to hear his comments about an end an online abuse that we have seen. In

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the end, unity comes about through talking, understanding, dialogue,

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solidarity. When you hear this talk of deselection of Labour MPs, good,

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hard-working, popular Labour MPs, that is completely

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counter-productive. Jeremy has been clear that he does not need to

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change rules about the way Parliamentary candidates are

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selected, he should be clear that that is the end of the matter and

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the only talk about the selection should be of Conservative MPs at the

:04:21.:04:26.

next general election. The immediate task we have in uniting the party is

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to reconcile the mandates that has been repeated today similar to the

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last one that Jeremy got from the membership, reconciling that with a

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mandate that Labour MPs elected under a different leader have from

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9.3 million Labour voters. The reintroduction of Shadow Cabinet

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elections, as Louise Haigh and just said, would certainly be a vehicle

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through which that could be achieved. Jeremy himself opposed the

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abolition of Shadow Cabinet elections in the first instance

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under Ed Miliband. I think it would be good to bring that back. Beyond

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that, we have to now really deal with some of our weaknesses, some of

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the issues on which we know we are struggling to get the trust of the

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people, in particular immigration. I was flabbergasted that, frankly,

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immigration was not more of the debate in the leadership contest

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given that about a third of Labour voters took a different view to our

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official position on staying in the EU, principally on immigration. We

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have to find a resolution consistent with our values, that resonate with

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lots of our people. We know from John Curtice, who came closest to

:05:37.:05:39.

predicting the general election result last year, that our economic

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competence was one of those issues. Those are the two big issues with a

:05:45.:05:48.

general election in mind. The most immediate task, of course, is making

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sure that we secure the most progressive Brexit deal possible.

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That is a really massive task for every Labour MP, on the front bench

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or the backbench. You didn't have confidence in your

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leader earlier this year, do you have confidence in him now?

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I think we all have to come together. You have around 40% of the

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electorate in this contest you have also said they have had concerns

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about the leadership. But we have had the result now, this has drawn a

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line, if you like, and we have to or wit. Different people say, I am a

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Momentum supporter, I am a Labour person and I want the Labour Party,

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whoever the leader is, to do well. Of course you do, but how... Getting

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into Government is how you make your value is real. But how would you say

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with a straight face to the wider electorate, bowled for this man, he

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will be your next Prime Minister and will be good at it? We have elected

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leader. He is our candidate to be Prime Minister. That is what we have

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said through this result. You can't complain about the rules after they

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have been run and you get a result. We have resulted had to move

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forward. If we continue having this debate every week, how will we move

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forward? I want to see our values implemented in office, I want to see

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us in Government. This is the test. The challenge to the leadership. We

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had to get Labour into Government. It is nonsense to suggest that

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somehow we were doing well in the polls before the Brexit vote and the

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vote of no-confidence, there have been over 80 different polls the

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change in leadership last year and we have been trailing in every

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single one, in almost every single one. We may well be the biggest

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party in Europe right now, numerically, in terms of supporters

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and members, but we are trailing in the polls and have been for a long

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time. We need to turn that around to get into Government, sort out the

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NHS, have the education campaign implemented that Jeremy talked

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about. We can't do any of these things unless we get into

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Government. Final thoughts, an appeal from you to call off the dogs

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when it comes to threatening deselection of Modra 's MPs, a call

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for Shadow Cabinet elections. You would serve in Jeremy Corbyn's top

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team? -- it deselection of moderate MPs. I left by mutual decision,

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Jeremy did not want me to stand in the Shadow Cabinet. I am standing to

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be chair of the Holah let -- Home Affairs Select Committee, which I am

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a member of. If people want to go back to serve, that is a good thing

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and I will support them. That being on the front bench is not the only

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way of serving. Look at Margaret Hodge on the Public Accounts

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Committee, holding to account those multinational companies and their

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failure to pay tax, and the work done by Tom Watson, which I think

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was a boost to his deputy leadership campaign, in calling for more

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regulation of newspapers and the way they operate. He did that on a

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select committee. You can advance Labour in parliament in different

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ways. All the pieces of the jigsaw, the Shadow Cabinet, select

:09:08.:09:11.

committees, backbench MPs, running campaigns, they are vital to

:09:12.:09:16.

strengthening our cause to support social justice. Thank you, Chuka

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Umunna, the Labour MP for Streatham. It sounds like he would rather chair

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the Home Affairs Select Committee than return to the top team of

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Jeremy Corbyn. Delegates, Members End Labour supporters are streaming

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out behind me. Some looking absolutely delighted, some less so.

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We will talk to some in a moment, but let's speak to Vicki Young at

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the grassroots Festival/ meeting of Momentum, the organisation --

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organisation set up to support Jeremy Corbyn. There is a carnival

:09:57.:10:01.

atmosphere, at delight comic huge cheers from the people here. This is

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a four-day event which they runs alongside the Labour Party

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conference. -- which they say runs alongside. Many expected the result

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and felt the contest was a waste of time and resources. What they wanted

:10:17.:10:20.

the party to come together and support and back Jeremy Corbyn. Many

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feel he was not given a fair hearing or a real chance when he was elected

:10:26.:10:29.

for the first time. Let's speak to some people here, what is your

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reaction? Thrilled that Jeremy has won and beyond excited to go back to

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my community, I'm from Leeds, and to start for real social change with

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the Labour Party members. What is your message to MPs? We have more in

:10:52.:10:54.

common than that divides us. Jeremy is a strong leader who can win in

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2020 and MP should get behind him and the membership. This Momentum

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grouping, what is the excitement been for the grassroots? It has been

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amazing with Momentum to get involved with people from all walks

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of life in leaps. Old people, young people, people new to politics,

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people who have been in politics for decades. Nudges the same old people,

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the same old catchphrases, new, exciting ideas. -- not just the same

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old people. What is Jeremy Corbyn's appeal? A group he talks the sort of

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politics I have always felt in my life, but it has never

:11:31.:11:47.

been in the media and somebody is at last saying what I felt for a long

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time around wall, refugees, education and health. I think it is

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fantastic to have this opportunity to change things. We can get elected

:11:53.:11:55.

if we get the membership United. I think it is exciting. That is the

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big if, it is whether the party can come together and be on the same

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side. Do you think that is possible after the year we have had? I think

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with over 500,000 members, anything is possible, and they think the MPs

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need to listen to the membership and take note and fight against the

:12:12.:12:15.

Tories instead of within the party, I am sure they can do that. What do

:12:16.:12:21.

you say to those who say that Corbyn's appeal does not go

:12:22.:12:35.

beyond thousand grassroots members, if you're going to win a general

:12:36.:12:39.

election you have to vote to people who would have voted Tory in the

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past. People I speak to at work are aware that something is changing. We

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don't want people in suits telling us lies, making decisions that will

:12:45.:12:47.

benefit them and their peers, the millionaires. I think the people in

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the Cabinet are all millionaires. We want people making decisions to

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understand what it is like to be an ordinary person. I think Jeremy

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Corbyn can do that in a way that no other politician has for a long

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time. I think he will and does connect with an awful lot of

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ordinary people, who aren't politically engaged. He is talking

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sense. That is what we are hearing, anyway. What is your reaction to the

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real action? Obviously very pleased that Jeremy has won again with an

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even bigger mandate than last year. The only way is forward. What is

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your message to Labour MPs who, let's face it, have not backed him

:13:28.:13:30.

up and do not think he leads the party in the right direction? The

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membership has spoken, it is time to get behind, Unite, make Labour a

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winning force in politics again. Your reaction? I am delighted. I

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could not be more delighted. I am very pleased that Jeremy has been

:13:49.:13:54.

re-elected. I think that he is a return to proper Labour Party values

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and principles. We were talking on the train on the way over from

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Bradford about what Labour Party values are, one of them is decency,

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I don't think you could find a more decent person anywhere. He will be a

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brilliant leader. The Parliamentary Labour Party must get behind him

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now. Thank you. The message, loud and clear, from the people here, MPs

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need to get behind Jeremy Corbyn, they feel it is the divisions in the

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Labour Party that have been the problem. They don't think the

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problem is Jeremy Corbyn, the message is to MPs who need to get

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behind him and campaign. Thank you very much, let's try to

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grab some of the delegates just leaving the conference hall. Hello,

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what did you think when you heard Corbyn had been re-elected?

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Extremely pleased, and I hope that with the second mandate as a party

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we will unite behind Jeremy as our leader and become the official

:14:52.:14:55.

opposition, doing what we expect the opposition to do, hold the

:14:56.:15:00.

Government to account and prepare ourselves for the forthcoming

:15:01.:15:03.

general election, hopefully forming a Labour Government. What do you say

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to those MPs who have been critical of Corbyn, openly and when it comes

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to briefing members of the media? Listen to the members, they have

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voted Jeremy again with a resounding majority, please listen to your

:15:22.:15:24.

members and support Jeremy, we need to unite as a party if we are going

:15:25.:15:29.

to be effective. Thank you very much, we will talk to more as they

:15:30.:15:34.

exit the conference hall. We are going to talk now to a woman who

:15:35.:15:37.

resigned from Jeremy Corbyn's top team back in the summer, Seema

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Malhotra was shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury, hello to you. What

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do think of the result? Well, it is a time for us to come together, not

:15:48.:15:52.

an unexpected result, and it has been a bruising summer for all

:15:53.:15:57.

sides, as we had the conversation, a top conversation, about what it will

:15:58.:16:01.

take for us to win in the Labour Party. Now people will say we want

:16:02.:16:05.

time to be able to come together, I think it is absolutely vital that,

:16:06.:16:11.

whichever way people campaigned all voted, we stay in the Labour Party,

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and that we focus on what we need to do to provide the opposition to

:16:15.:16:18.

Theresa May and focus on how we win the next election. I think at this

:16:19.:16:22.

time we can save up with some money challenges coming upstream, whether

:16:23.:16:28.

welfare and benefit cuts, the challengers after Brexit, that we

:16:29.:16:32.

say we have got the answers more in the Labour Party, we have to be

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voicing those is a strong opposition. What adjective would you

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use to describe how you felt when you heard Jeremy Corbyn's name read

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out? I think it was, you know, probably expected. Your emotion was,

:16:47.:16:51.

that was expected? We have got to come together, my emotion was, there

:16:52.:16:55.

are so much division in the country, there has been a divisive and

:16:56.:16:59.

bruising period in the Labour Party, it has been unpleasant for

:17:00.:17:02.

everybody, and I think people are now saying, when I talk to members

:17:03.:17:06.

and constituents, that we won't Labour to be fighting as a strong

:17:07.:17:10.

opposition. That does mean we have to find a way of addressing the

:17:11.:17:13.

issue that caused this to happen in the first place, and I think there

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has to be something on both sides, it is an important stage we are at,

:17:19.:17:23.

and we have to see the partnership. Be people like you who resigned from

:17:24.:17:33.

the top team, is there an irony that this has made Mr Corbyn stronger? We

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do want to see the Labour Party go forward together, I think whichever

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side you are on, I have talked to members on both sides who say that

:17:42.:17:46.

there were different reasons why they chose either Jeremy or Eoin in

:17:47.:17:51.

this election, but we are united in wanting to fight for the Labour

:17:52.:17:54.

Party to be in power, I think that is where we are, and I believe where

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we have to play a part is, whichever way we can play that part, to be

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focused on making sure the Labour Party is in the strongest position,

:18:03.:18:06.

addressing the issues it needs to to make sure that it can be in the

:18:07.:18:09.

stronger position to win government again. Would you go back to the top

:18:10.:18:14.

team? I am prepared to have an open conversation about what role I play,

:18:15.:18:19.

front bench or backbench. I am not being presumptive about whether it

:18:20.:18:23.

is going back or not, I do not think you can go back, but you do go

:18:24.:18:27.

forward... John McDonnell has invited people like yourself or a

:18:28.:18:34.

cup of tea and a chat, will you be taking him up on that? That is jewel

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crossed the Labour Party, and between the different sites, we want

:18:38.:18:40.

to come together, it is about partnership, addressing the issues,

:18:41.:18:43.

making sure we stay in the Labour Party and stay together. Norman is

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outside the conference all here in Liverpool.

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Hey, Vic, I have got one man who should be happy, James Schneider,

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the national organiser of Momentum, key supporters of Jeremy Corbyn, a

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big win, yes, but not as big as some thought. No, fantastic, larger

:19:02.:19:07.

mandate than last year and that is after people were excluded from

:19:08.:19:11.

voting, the new members who signed up after January. There is no way

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you can spin it other than a fantastic result, the margins in all

:19:15.:19:17.

three categories, we are really pleased. Doesn't it raise new

:19:18.:19:23.

controversy over the registered supporters, people who paid to vote

:19:24.:19:26.

in the contest? That is where he has done best by quite a long way.

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YouGov 58% of the vote in full party members, 60% in affiliate so bold as

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to trade unions, 69% in the registered supporters. 50,000 of

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those registered supporters were full party members who were denied a

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vote. The idea that he has only won because of Johnny come lately is

:19:50.:19:52.

completely untrue. We are listening to a Momentum rally at the moment,

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the appeals for unity and again and again, that has to be more than

:20:00.:20:02.

words, so what does Mr Corbyn have to do to get his MPs on board? He

:20:03.:20:08.

has got to do what he is doing, bring the party together, but it

:20:09.:20:14.

goes both ways. What we need, I think, is MPs to recognise that the

:20:15.:20:18.

direction that the members want to take the party, and actually come

:20:19.:20:21.

across this summer and the leadership debate, there has been a

:20:22.:20:24.

whole load of agreement on big areas of policy where we can go, and it is

:20:25.:20:29.

a big base to unite around. What you say to the Labour MPs who are scared

:20:30.:20:34.

witless by Momentum, who see it as a front for getting rid of mainstream

:20:35.:20:41.

centrist Labour talk to us, that is not the case, we are not campaigning

:20:42.:20:47.

for deselection. We are campaigning to make the party more inclusive, we

:20:48.:20:53.

are part of the Labour movement, we want to help Labour win elections.

:20:54.:20:57.

If you have heard rumours about horrible things we do, they are not

:20:58.:21:02.

the case, come and talk to us. An invitation to the Labour MPs who

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have any doubts, pick up the phone, give him a call, see if your fears

:21:07.:21:12.

are allayed. Back to you, Vic. Let's talk to various members who

:21:13.:21:16.

have just come out of the conference hall, Michelle, you voted for Mr

:21:17.:21:20.

Corbyn, what are you thinking right now? I am delighted, I think the

:21:21.:21:25.

right person won, it is a great result today, and I think it is a

:21:26.:21:28.

great chance for the party to unite and move forward. James Aspinall,

:21:29.:21:33.

you were supporting a Owen Smith, how you feeling right now? I am just

:21:34.:21:39.

pleased that this nightmare is over, as Michelle has said, this is the

:21:40.:21:44.

opportunity now for us to move forward and unite. There are things

:21:45.:21:48.

bigger than this, whether Jeremy Corbyn or Owen Smith, and we have to

:21:49.:21:55.

unite now together to face the electorate and take on the Tories,

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that is our prime function in life. We spoke earlier, you were a little

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emotional, you said, when you are knocking on the doors, people were

:22:06.:22:08.

saying, I cannot vote for you with Jeremy Corbyn as leader. It is true,

:22:09.:22:13.

people do say that, and there are people who say they will vote for

:22:14.:22:17.

him, but that is democracy, that is the way the British people are. We

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have to respect that and come up with a set of policies that appeals

:22:24.:22:28.

to everybody, not just certain sections. Joseph, hello, you dressed

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up for the occasion, looking magnificent, if you don't mind me

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saying so! What do you think of the result? God just fantastic, I am

:22:37.:22:41.

very, very pleased, the most important thing is we have to come

:22:42.:22:45.

together and put a big fights towards the Tories, that is the most

:22:46.:22:50.

important thing. We have been fighting, but without unity there

:22:51.:22:54.

will be no success, so I will appeal to the PLP members to back Corbyn,

:22:55.:23:01.

come back and work together so that we can win the 2020 election. Mick,

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what would you say, as a member, to Labour MPs who have been critical of

:23:09.:23:13.

Mr Corbyn the past few months? We have four years before we have to

:23:14.:23:17.

face an election. I cannot hear you, speak up. We have got four more

:23:18.:23:22.

years before we have to face an election, and we can do a lot more.

:23:23.:23:26.

Basically, people haven't seen anything yet. Full OK. Over this

:23:27.:23:34.

last year, Corbyn has managed to induce many people, including me,

:23:35.:23:39.

and I think that is going to take this right through to the next

:23:40.:23:46.

election. What is it about team -- Mr Corbyn that appeals to you, Mick?

:23:47.:23:53.

Sincerity, no spin, he is not media savvy, which is a bit of a problem

:23:54.:23:56.

considering where we are at the moment, but he means what he says,

:23:57.:24:00.

he hasn't changed is the use for the last 30 years, which is a good

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thing. -- he hasn't changed his views. Most of the recent policies

:24:08.:24:10.

that the new contender was pushing forward at the same as he has

:24:11.:24:15.

himself. You wanted Owen Smith to win, what do you say now? We have

:24:16.:24:20.

got to be hopeful. It is right to say that Owen Smith believes in a

:24:21.:24:24.

lot of things that Jeremy believes in, but the reason a lot of people

:24:25.:24:27.

opposed is because of the strategy, the weight we put forward what we

:24:28.:24:36.

believed in, so I think we can be hopeful this that maybe we will look

:24:37.:24:45.

being more confident, cooperating more, building up, uniting a bit

:24:46.:24:50.

more, to be a bit more of an effective opposition. Do you think

:24:51.:24:55.

that is realistic, Michelle, all the people within the PLP, 172 MPs who

:24:56.:25:00.

voted in that no confidence motion against their leader? All that

:25:01.:25:07.

anxiety about Mr Corbyn's competence, as they put it, will it

:25:08.:25:11.

suddenly disappear because he has been re-elected? I think there needs

:25:12.:25:16.

to be a lot of conversations had, as Jeremy just said, he is prepared to

:25:17.:25:20.

wipe the slate clean. There has been a lot of bad things said which

:25:21.:25:23.

shouldn't have been said. I think, if we are going to be Cardinal in

:25:24.:25:27.

the next election, that we need to all come together, and there needs

:25:28.:25:31.

to be some serious conversations had about how people can work together,

:25:32.:25:34.

and that is what is the most important thing. Let's hear a little

:25:35.:25:39.

bit more about what Jeremy Corbyn said in his acceptance speech, his

:25:40.:25:43.

thank you speech, if you like, after he was re-elected.

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My responsibility to this party is to unite, in

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conference at this week in the wonderful

:25:53.:25:53.

city of Liverpool, in Parliament,

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and in every community around the country.

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But it is also the responsibility of the whole party,

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Members of Parliament, councillors, party members,

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and our wonderful supporters across the country,

:26:06.:26:07.

to work together and respect the democratic choice

:26:08.:26:09.

Labour is a party brimming full of ideas,

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of talent, of creativity, and so is this country.

:26:20.:26:24.

Unleashing that potential is the job of all of us.

:26:25.:26:27.

Let us work together for real change in Britain.

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OK, back to Norman, who is with Jeremy Corbyn. By Mike Pence by

:26:32.:26:55.

much, Vic, a few stragglers coming out, Diane Abbott, your take on the

:26:56.:27:00.

result? It is a very good result, given that in many ways this was a

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nasty and bitter campaign, and last summer they threw everything except

:27:06.:27:09.

the kitchen sink at Jeremy, and he still increased his share of the

:27:10.:27:17.

vote. Widely used say that? Because the allegations, including

:27:18.:27:20.

anti-Semitism, very hurtful, we didn't get that last time. It was a

:27:21.:27:24.

hard campaign, but in the end I think the membership came out for

:27:25.:27:28.

Jeremy, because they realised he hadn't been given a chance and

:27:29.:27:33.

treated fairly. What do you say to those MPs who still refuse to get on

:27:34.:27:38.

board, refused to join in the front bench? First of all, they have to

:27:39.:27:43.

listen to their members. Many of Jeremy's most vociferous critics

:27:44.:27:47.

actually have the party to nominate a Jeremy, they have to listen to

:27:48.:27:51.

their members. They have to listen to Labour supporters. They wanted

:27:52.:27:57.

the party to unite and take the fight to the Tories. And if they

:27:58.:28:02.

don't, they should face the selection? Nobody is talking about

:28:03.:28:13.

the deselection, we are not going to hold what was said in a campaign

:28:14.:28:17.

against anybody, we want the party to unite. Why shouldn't local

:28:18.:28:26.

parties deselect Labour MPs who have been criticising a leader who has

:28:27.:28:29.

been overwhelmingly elected? Why shouldn't they get rid of those MPs?

:28:30.:28:34.

Clearly, because of the boundary changes, there will have to be some

:28:35.:28:40.

selections, but we don't want a purge, we don't want deselection, we

:28:41.:28:46.

want to come together, that is what the party once. What evidence is

:28:47.:28:51.

there that Mr Corbyn, beyond the rhetoric, is willing to put in place

:28:52.:28:55.

concrete measures to reassure those Labour MPs who are doubtful about

:28:56.:28:59.

him? What will he do beyond the talk? Look at what he has done, when

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he first put the Shadow Cabinet together, he had people who were

:29:04.:29:09.

Blairites and also from the left. He is willing to call on all the

:29:10.:29:12.

talents, and that is what is going to do this time. Diane Abbott, thank

:29:13.:29:19.

you for your time. Vic, back to you. Thank you very much, Norman, with us

:29:20.:29:25.

is Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell, right-hand man to Jeremy Corbyn,

:29:26.:29:27.

congratulations to you and your team. Wipe the slate clean, does

:29:28.:29:33.

that mean calling off the dogs when it comes to those threats of

:29:34.:29:37.

deselecting MPs who may have criticised Mr Corbyn in recent

:29:38.:29:41.

months? We have never called on the dogs, we have never done that - we

:29:42.:29:46.

have made it clear repeatedly that we are not in favour of mandatory

:29:47.:29:50.

deselection, first of all. The boundary commission changes are

:29:51.:29:53.

coming up, we will fight them in Parliament and in the courts,

:29:54.:29:57.

because they are so grotesquely unfair. If they do go through, the

:29:58.:30:02.

rules that have always applied on the boundary commission changes will

:30:03.:30:06.

apply then, which is, if there is a sitting MP, they will have a right

:30:07.:30:10.

to the seat, basically. We are trying to reassure people all the

:30:11.:30:14.

time that all we want is unity and stability. Labour MPs who have been

:30:15.:30:19.

critical have nothing to worry about? Not at all, we have said its

:30:20.:30:23.

time and again, and I will repeat it now. The most important thing now is

:30:24.:30:28.

not the issue of deselection, it is about what role people want to play,

:30:29.:30:33.

front bench, backbench, if they do not feel they want to take a forward

:30:34.:30:38.

role, maybe they can on the backbench, like Yvette Cooper on

:30:39.:30:41.

refugees, brilliant, Caroline Flint and tax evasion. So there is a way

:30:42.:30:46.

in which we can accommodate everyone.

:30:47.:30:51.

Shadow Cabinet elections, yes? There will be a wider discussion. The key

:30:52.:30:58.

thing around issues of democratic change in the party, we had to make

:30:59.:31:02.

sure we do it by consensus, and if we had to take time to do it, let's

:31:03.:31:08.

do it properly. Western with changes in the Constitution of the Labour

:31:09.:31:12.

Party, there was a full constitution toe consultation. I think people

:31:13.:31:17.

want it and quickly rather than delaying it. Mr Corbyn could have

:31:18.:31:21.

bothered that in his acceptance speech. He did not want any

:31:22.:31:25.

accusations that he is bouncing anyone into any decisions at the

:31:26.:31:29.

moment. If he offered that, some people might oppose that and think

:31:30.:31:32.

their views are not being listened to all pre-empted. Does he see the

:31:33.:31:39.

idea of Shadow Cabinet elections, whether across-the-board or a third

:31:40.:31:46.

are elected by backbench MPs, as a way of gripping his wings, or not? I

:31:47.:31:52.

don't think so. I think the issue is what is the most appropriate way of

:31:53.:31:57.

getting the right representation, is that by appointment, or by-election?

:31:58.:32:02.

What sort of mandate should there be? That is at every level of the

:32:03.:32:07.

party, in terms of Shadow Cabinet and the NEC. Now you have had the

:32:08.:32:12.

second conference within just over 12 months, are you pleased, because

:32:13.:32:20.

it has strengthened Mr Corbyn's power. I did not wanted, I thought

:32:21.:32:23.

was a distraction. But now you know the mandate is bigger than a year

:32:24.:32:27.

ago... But it destructed us for about three months when we should be

:32:28.:32:32.

in the face of the Tories as an opposition -- but it distracted us.

:32:33.:32:37.

Jeremy has an increased mandate. I think the appeal for unity will

:32:38.:32:41.

work. Some of the issues which came out of the debate on policy, really

:32:42.:32:48.

no difference. The most common expression used by Owen was, I agree

:32:49.:32:53.

with Jeremy, which is good. Let's learn from criticism. We say to

:32:54.:33:00.

people, come and talk to us. Has any Labour MP said, I want to chat with

:33:01.:33:06.

you? Yes. Who? I don't want to put people on the spot and they don't

:33:07.:33:12.

want any division. We have to come together. Clearly, you are saying

:33:13.:33:17.

MPs are coming to you privately and saying, we want to come back into

:33:18.:33:24.

the fold? A number of people have said -- I want to do my best, here

:33:25.:33:29.

is the policy I'm interested in, can I perform the role. Somebody like

:33:30.:33:35.

Hilary Benn would be welcomed back? Yes, he is incredibly talented, we

:33:36.:33:40.

have worked together for a number of years, he was a local councillor

:33:41.:33:43.

just outside my constituency for many years. We have always got

:33:44.:33:48.

along. Ed Miliband on Twitter, congratulations to Jeremy on his

:33:49.:33:53.

victory, commiserations to Owen. Now is the time for the party to unite

:33:54.:34:01.

and focus on the country. Stephen Kinnock, congratulations to Jeremy

:34:02.:34:04.

Corbyn, time to unite the party and set out a vision and a gender to

:34:05.:34:13.

unite the country. How can you attract Conservative and Ukip photos

:34:14.:34:24.

to win an election? Jeremy said the first campaign next Saturday, which

:34:25.:34:28.

they will be leafleting on the streets about, will be on the issues

:34:29.:34:32.

of education segregation, that is what grammar schools. That is

:34:33.:34:38.

uniting the party. If you look at housing, the one thing facing people

:34:39.:34:42.

right the way across the country is being able to afford a roof over

:34:43.:34:45.

their heads, having their children able to have access to the housing

:34:46.:34:49.

market. All of those issues that came up in the leadership campaign

:34:50.:34:54.

are election winners for us. If we unite, because people will not vote

:34:55.:35:00.

for a divided party, it is a truism, if we get out there with the

:35:01.:35:04.

selection vehicle we have ever had, the largest political party in

:35:05.:35:15.

Europe, we will have members on virtually every street corner to act

:35:16.:35:18.

as ambassadors for us and argue our case, I think there is a chance to

:35:19.:35:21.

win it whenever it comes. Do you expect it earlier than 2020? I have

:35:22.:35:24.

never trusted Tories anyway, but I don't trust this even more. I think

:35:25.:35:29.

she will go early, if she stays in power over the next 18 months, two

:35:30.:35:34.

years, the Tories will rip themselves apart on Brexit yet

:35:35.:35:39.

again. What do you say to the Labour voters in heartlands, the north-east

:35:40.:35:43.

of England in particular, who voted to leave the European Union? They

:35:44.:35:48.

are really anxious about freedom of movement of people. You will address

:35:49.:35:55.

it, in what way? It is part of the debate that we will have. The Brexit

:35:56.:35:58.

vote has taken place, we have to respect that. We had to respect the

:35:59.:36:02.

result of the referendum. We will look at creating a new Europe,

:36:03.:36:07.

working with our European partners. They want an end to freedom of

:36:08.:36:12.

movement. Let's see what the problems were, was that people

:36:13.:36:18.

coming here undercutting wages, the pressure on public services? We want

:36:19.:36:22.

the benefits of the old EU and to tackle some of the perceived this

:36:23.:36:28.

benefits, I think we can do that. Thank you for your time, Shadow

:36:29.:36:31.

Chancellor John McDonnell. The message to everybody we have spoken

:36:32.:36:35.

to is that the Labour Party must unite. I think we will talk to

:36:36.:36:43.

Norman now? Sorry, I beg your pardon, we will speak to Patrick

:36:44.:36:47.

McLoughin, the Conservative Party Chairman. Thank you for your

:36:48.:36:52.

patience, how do you react to the re-election of Jeremy Corbyn? What

:36:53.:36:55.

will hang around the Labour Party as long as Jeremy Corbyn is leader is

:36:56.:37:01.

that 172 of his members of Parliament don't think he is

:37:02.:37:06.

competent enough to run his party. Let alone run the government. That

:37:07.:37:11.

is our message, my message. The Labour Party is split, the Labour

:37:12.:37:17.

Party itself says Jeremy Corbyn is not fit to lead it. Also, all the

:37:18.:37:23.

former leaders of the Labour Party had said that Jeremy Corbyn is not

:37:24.:37:27.

the right person to lead the party and cannot be a good Prime Minister

:37:28.:37:34.

of this country. Not all of his policies are unpalatable to the

:37:35.:37:38.

wider electorate. A majority support taking railways back into public

:37:39.:37:45.

ownership, for example. We will have those debates over the coming months

:37:46.:37:49.

and years. The simple fact about the railways is we have more people

:37:50.:37:54.

using the railways now than ever, that is because of the competition

:37:55.:37:58.

brought about by franchising the railway system. That may be true,

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but the majority no support nationalisation. Mr Corbyn is

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championing bat. It is not just about the railways, we will take

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Jeremy Corbyn on. The point he is making, if he manages to former

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Shadow Cabinet. In the last leadership election he said the last

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Labour Government did not spend enough. He says he wants to stop

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freedoms we have given to schools. We will be making those points and

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getting on with governing the country.

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You will have heard Mr Corbyn in his speech earlier say that he is

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launching a campaign next week about education segregation, against your

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policy, Theresa May's policy, of reintroducing selection for some

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grammar schools. In our schools who have a diverse system of schools,

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academies concentrating on sport, once concentrating on music. I think

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it is right that we have them but concentrate on academic ability,

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too. I welcome having up to date. When the Labour Party was in

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Government for 30 years they allowed grammar schools to continue in

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certain parts of the country. We saw expansions of grammar schools given

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the go-ahead by the government. I want to see more people getting the

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opportunity of a diverse education system so they get what best suits

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that child. That is the most important thing when discussing the

:39:30.:39:33.

education system, what is best for the pupils, what is best so they can

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compete in a very competitive world and the environment. When will you

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have a Brexit plan? The Prime Minister and his senior colleagues

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are working on the Brexit plan. We will have more to say in due course.

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When will you have it? In due course... This year, next year? The

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Prime Minister has said that article 50 will not be triggered before the

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end of the year, when she has more to say she will let you know.

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Theresa May has also said she will not call an early general election,

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will she stick with that? Yes. There are no plans at all for any early

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general election. We have a fixed term parliament until 2020, when the

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general election will be. Thank you very much, Patrick

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McLoughin, chairman of the Conservative Party. Let's talk to

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two MPs, Kate Green, chair of the Owen Smith campaign, and you still

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had a smile on your face, and Chris Maddison, who voted for Owen Smith.

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Hello. Why did you vote for him? I think there was a feeling within the

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party that Jeremy's abilities had not shone through, they were rather

:40:49.:40:53.

limited, and if we were going to take on the Tories, we wanted to

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take the fight to a different level. Owen offered that, certainly when we

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saw his performances within Parliament. What do you think now

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you have made to Jeremy Corbyn even stronger? May be, that Jeremy has

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helped himself. It had Theresa May on toast over her plans to bring

:41:13.:41:18.

back grammar schools and secondary moderns, so he is improving his

:41:19.:41:22.

performance. How do you feel about the results? It is a good victory

:41:23.:41:28.

for Jeremy Corbyn, we congratulate him. We are very pleased that almost

:41:29.:41:33.

200,000 people have voted for Owen, that is a big vote, bigger than the

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three candidates who stood against Jeremy last year put together. We

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are very anxious that Jeremy should carry forward on the speech that he

:41:46.:41:49.

gave just after the result was announced, to unite the whole of the

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party and started to take the fight to the Tories, that is what we are

:41:55.:41:58.

prioritising. Do you think the onus is on Labour MPs critical of Mr

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Corbyn to rally round, all Mr Corbyn to offer olive branches? There is a

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genuine desire for unity. We have been scoring some really good hits

:42:15.:42:18.

on the Tories, people want to build on McDonnell sites. I will hope that

:42:19.:42:22.

both sides come together and we find a way forward, it is absolutely

:42:23.:42:26.

possible. Will you look me in the eye and tell me that, having been

:42:27.:42:30.

critical of Mr Corbyn and voting for Owen Smith, you know thing, because

:42:31.:42:34.

he has been re-elected a second time, that he can win a general

:42:35.:42:39.

election? I am looking you in the eye, he has improved his

:42:40.:42:46.

performances in the last couple of weeks. He creamed Theresa May in

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Prime Minister's Questions last week, she had no responses to any of

:42:49.:42:52.

his questions. I think we can come together and fight? I think it is

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entirely possible we can win the next general election. It is

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absolutely essential that we'd unite and fight the next general election.

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My constituents and people across the country need to see a Labour

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Government. The leadership campaign has been about making sure we are a

:43:09.:43:13.

credible party of opposition and a Government in waiting. With Jeremy

:43:14.:43:18.

re-elected, that needs to be the priority. This you need to change

:43:19.:43:22.

the way he performs, behaves? Include his MPs? In order to win the

:43:23.:43:32.

next election? For parties to win general elections, to win any

:43:33.:43:36.

elections, we had to be united, purposeful and focused. Do you think

:43:37.:43:43.

Jeremy Corbyn is seen as a Prime Minister in waiting by the wider

:43:44.:43:47.

electorate? First and foremost we need a united and effective

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opposition, that is the first priority, four years out from the

:43:52.:43:54.

general election if Theresa May is to be taken at her word. That builds

:43:55.:43:59.

us back on the road to taking power. It is crucial we are on that road,

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people need a Labour Government. We will not do that if the RA divided

:44:04.:44:09.

party. It is incumbent on all members and the leader to work

:44:10.:44:14.

together and get the message across. We have a statement from Owen Smith.

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I would like to read, if I may. I want to congratulate Jeremy Corbyn

:44:20.:44:23.

on his clear win in this leadership contest. There is no doubt that the

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Labour Party has changed into his leadership. He has mobilised huge

:44:27.:44:30.

numbers of people over last 12 months, many of whom are at

:44:31.:44:34.

Conference in Liverpool, and he deserves the credit for that and by

:44:35.:44:38.

winning so decisively. I am humbled by the more than 193,000 members,

:44:39.:44:42.

supporters and trade union members who have put their faith in

:44:43.:44:54.

me and to say a big thank you to them. It has been a privilege to

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meet so many of you who have given so much of your lives to Labour, and

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I promise to continue to work for what we believe in. It has been a

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great honour for me to stand as leader and I am deeply grateful to

:45:06.:45:07.

my Parliamentary colleagues for nominating me. I entered the race

:45:08.:45:10.

because they did not think Jeremy was providing the leadership we

:45:11.:45:12.

needed and because I think we must renew the party to win back voters'

:45:13.:45:15.

trust and respect. I will respect the results, reflect carefully on it

:45:16.:45:19.

and what role I might play in future to help Labour win again for the

:45:20.:45:23.

British people. He made it clear he would not serve in Jeremy Corbyn's

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Shadow Cabinet. That is interesting. The statement continues. I have no

:45:29.:45:33.

time for talk of a split in the Labour that. That is also

:45:34.:45:35.

interesting because he predicted that is what would happen. It is

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Labour or nothing for me. Although today's results shows that our

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movement remains divided, it now falls primarily to Jeremy Corbyn as

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Labour leader to heal the divisions and unite the movement. We have to

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turned down our dire opinion poll ratings and take down this Tory

:45:57.:45:58.

Government. Jeremy has won the contest, he has to in the country

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and will have my support. What do you make of that, chair of the Owen

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Smith campaign? The old amateur study Labour Party

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and leadership is that we have to get into power. -- the ultimate test

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of. We were not on track to do that before or during this summer, and

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now we have to concentrate all our resources and effort on making sure

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we are on a party on track to power, and the leader of our party, Jeremy

:46:28.:46:31.

Corbyn, has to spearhead of that attack. Owen Smith? And all the

:46:32.:46:37.

people who have supported his campaign, and we are very proud of

:46:38.:46:40.

all the people who have supported him, we need to support Jeremy in

:46:41.:46:44.

that endeavour and we will, but there are different ways of serving,

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and Owen has been saying that he needs some time to reflect what best

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his contribution can be, but I am very clear, having worked with Owen

:46:53.:46:57.

over the summer, having seen how he has been campaigned, that he has an

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enormous amount to offer our movement, and he will offer it.

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Thank you for your time. Let's talk to Andy Gill, in Castleford market

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in Yorkshire. Hello, Andy. Yes, this is a solid Labour seat,

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part of Yvette Cooper's seat, of course. I have with me Michael

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Miller, a politics student, who campaigned for Owen Smith, a member

:47:24.:47:32.

of Leeds Were meant. What is your reaction to the result? It is hugely

:47:33.:47:36.

disappointing but not surprising given recent polls. Look, I

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campaigned for Owen Smith because I think Jeremy Corbyn is unelectable.

:47:40.:47:44.

But you have to respect he has been given a huge renewed mandate today.

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We all have to respect that, including the members of the PLP,

:47:50.:47:53.

and that means getting behind the leadership, even if you do not agree

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with him, saying, we need to come together because the Conservative

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Party is is a ruling in a really hard right away, and the official

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opposition is needed more than ever, I think. So you will get behind

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Jeremy Corbyn, how many Owen Smith supporters, that part of the Labour

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Party, will do the same? I think the vast majority will, both because the

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Labour Party has always been a broad church of opinion, and it will

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remain like that, and there is nowhere to go. People are suggesting

:48:23.:48:26.

a split might happen, but it will not, primarily because of the weak

:48:27.:48:33.

options, only eight Lib Dem MPs, that is not a viable party for

:48:34.:48:36.

Govan. The Labour Party is the only one that can win against the

:48:37.:48:39.

Conservative Party. -- for government. What would you like to

:48:40.:48:44.

see Jeremy Corbyn doing now to make Labour attractive to the wider

:48:45.:48:49.

electorate to my he needs to dismiss ideas that deselection at MPs could

:48:50.:48:56.

happen. This idea that we should do that should be dismissed. At the

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same time, his media strategy needs to improve, and he needs to start

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talking to the wider electorate. There is a lot of focus on Momentum

:49:06.:49:09.

members and their ideas, but even though we have a huge electorate,

:49:10.:49:14.

and that is really good, a great big membership, it doesn't translate

:49:15.:49:20.

into election winning results. Richard of Momentum Leeds, do you

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agree? Does Jeremy Corbyn need to change things to appeal to people? I

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would not say to appeal to people, the policies we are going forward

:49:29.:49:31.

with will appeal to the people that we need to appeal to. People who

:49:32.:49:36.

stopped voting Labour for whatever reason. We are of the opinion that

:49:37.:49:40.

what we need to do is make sure that their lives improve, and that means

:49:41.:49:43.

policies that help them, going back to what the Labour Party was. But

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can Corbyn have that wider appeal? I fundamentally believe he can, the

:49:51.:49:54.

fact that he has been elected and increased the party membership to

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over 500,000 people shows an appeal. We can look at the four past

:50:00.:50:03.

by-elections the Labour Party has won, council elections from a high

:50:04.:50:09.

water mark in May. Four mayoral elections, it is very clear that we

:50:10.:50:12.

can appeal, and I am not so sure that the people who keep arguing

:50:13.:50:16.

that we cannot actually looking at the evidence. Richard, Michael, back

:50:17.:50:22.

to you, Victoria. Thank you, we have got two gentleman

:50:23.:50:28.

here from two different unions, Tim Roach, general secretary of the GMB,

:50:29.:50:32.

they backed Alan Smith, and Mick Whelan of Aslef, they backed Mr

:50:33.:50:38.

Corbyn. Both of you, hello, this reaction from Nigel Farage on

:50:39.:50:42.

Twitter, Jeremy Corbyn's re-election is great news for Ukip. Is it? I

:50:43.:50:48.

think it is great news for working people, a resounding victory, I

:50:49.:50:50.

think he has a mandate for the second time in less than 12 months,

:50:51.:50:55.

he won in every constituency of the Labour Party, that is important. Now

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it is time for the party to unite behind the democratically elected

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leader and give working people of this country what they deserve. The

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reason we have seen the rise of Ukip is because Labour has been

:51:07.:51:12.

infighting and contemplating our own navel. Perhaps Labour has nothing to

:51:13.:51:17.

say about managed migration, which is a worry for some working-class

:51:18.:51:20.

supporters who naturally vote Labour. Clearly, we need to look at

:51:21.:51:26.

the free movement of Labour, but from an economic point of view, not

:51:27.:51:31.

just social. Yes, it has an impact on workers and jobs, but it is not

:51:32.:51:35.

about Polish people undercutting wage rates it is for some voters.

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But it isn't. It is! You need to look at the last Labour manifesto,

:51:50.:51:53.

there were things in there about paying the right rate for the job,

:51:54.:51:57.

not bringing people into undercut wages, which has gone a long way

:51:58.:52:03.

to... A manifesto rejected by the wider electorate, I am talking about

:52:04.:52:06.

Jeremy Corbyn having a message that resonates with Labour voters when it

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comes to immigration. I think he does and he will, it is a work in

:52:12.:52:17.

progress. Without this distraction of the leadership election, we would

:52:18.:52:20.

have had these policies developed. We have a new leader of the Tory

:52:21.:52:25.

party that has not been elected by the electorate, and they are in

:52:26.:52:29.

difficult places over Brexit. The whole political movement, nobody is

:52:30.:52:33.

expecting Brexiter happen, nobody had a fallback position, nobody

:52:34.:52:36.

realised what they were going to have to do. -- nobody expected

:52:37.:52:43.

Brexit to happen. We cannot understate the fact that Theresa May

:52:44.:52:48.

has not been elected by the country, she was elected by less people than

:52:49.:52:51.

will be at Labour Party conference this week. What we have seen with

:52:52.:52:56.

the Conservatives is the Business Secretary having a go at big

:52:57.:52:59.

business, the Health Secretary having a go at doctors, a Foreign

:53:00.:53:03.

Secretary who does not like foreigners - that is the state this

:53:04.:53:09.

country is in under the Tories. We need to unite and Jeremy Corbyn, and

:53:10.:53:13.

we will be holding the Tories to account and showing what work people

:53:14.:53:16.

need. You didn't backed Jeremy Corbyn in this contest, for whatever

:53:17.:53:21.

reasons you didn't, and now you are saying, we are backing him, he's

:53:22.:53:25.

good enough at all. That is not going to win through with some

:53:26.:53:31.

people. The reality is Jeremy's words today resonate. There has been

:53:32.:53:37.

an election, sometimes it got fractures, sometimes people say

:53:38.:53:40.

things they don't mean, but now we come together to do the job of the

:53:41.:53:44.

Labour Party, to provide a government in the future. And in the

:53:45.:53:47.

interim, provide a viable opposition. What you say to the

:53:48.:53:51.

Labour MPs who have opposed their boss over a number of months?

:53:52.:53:56.

Something they may face deselection because of the forthcoming boundary

:53:57.:53:59.

review, an opportunity for Mr Corbyn and his allies to select pro Corbyn

:54:00.:54:05.

Parliamentary candidates, or they may think they will face defeat, so

:54:06.:54:10.

they might as well agitate and organise? We need to change the

:54:11.:54:14.

culture of the debate entirely. This isn't about whether you are for or

:54:15.:54:18.

against Jeremy Corbyn, and I'm talking from the perspective of

:54:19.:54:22.

trade Unions, the PLP and MPs. It is no longer about supporting Jeremy

:54:23.:54:26.

Corbyn or not. It is about whether you want a Labour Party that will

:54:27.:54:30.

hold the Tories to account, a Labour Party that will take us directory,

:54:31.:54:34.

and start working on behalf of working people. Jeremy Corbyn has a

:54:35.:54:39.

mandate to do that, anybody who is dissenting from that is not about

:54:40.:54:46.

Jeremy Corbyn, it is about and the Labour Party. The first thing we

:54:47.:54:51.

should be doing is campaigning and overturning the gerrymandering of

:54:52.:54:53.

the boundary changes. Gerrymandering? It is quite simple,

:54:54.:54:58.

they are based on figures that are out of date, two million people have

:54:59.:55:02.

been taken off the electoral role because of Tory processes, so the

:55:03.:55:06.

figures and the selection process is now incorrect and it needs to be

:55:07.:55:11.

revisited. Where is the gerrymandering? They are going ahead

:55:12.:55:14.

with it knowing that the figures are incorrect, and the whole ethos was

:55:15.:55:23.

cutting the cost of politics, whereas at the same time they are

:55:24.:55:25.

putting more people into the House of Lords, and costs will get

:55:26.:55:28.

greater. Thank you both very much for your time, Tim Roche of the GMB,

:55:29.:55:34.

and Michael Whelan of Aslef. Here is Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London's

:55:35.:55:39.

reaction, congratulations to Jeremy, who has won the support of members

:55:40.:55:42.

and supporters. The important thing is for the party to pull together

:55:43.:55:46.

and focus on winning the next general election. He was an Owen

:55:47.:55:51.

Smith supporter. Norman, that is the message from absolutely everybody,

:55:52.:55:57.

the Labour Party has to unite. No surprise, after a leadership

:55:58.:56:01.

contest, of course people will say unity, unity, unity, you wouldn't

:56:02.:56:04.

say anything else. Your wife asks, is this dress nice, of course you

:56:05.:56:09.

say yes, you have to! This is a party that, this result shows, is

:56:10.:56:14.

deeply divided over the issue of Mr Corbyn. Yes, he attracts a lot of

:56:15.:56:18.

buzz of support, but a lot of people are deeply uncomfortable his

:56:19.:56:24.

leadership. The one thing we can get from today is that Jeremy Corbyn is

:56:25.:56:27.

politically bombproof until the next election. The idea of further

:56:28.:56:31.

leadership challenges is for the birds, there is no way his critics

:56:32.:56:35.

can credibly mount a challenge against him, who will be their

:56:36.:56:39.

candidate? Been beaten twice, Mr Corbyn has increased the size of the

:56:40.:56:44.

party, brought in 40,000 new members, they tried to stop him

:56:45.:56:47.

getting on the ballot paper and failed, and in fact he has increased

:56:48.:56:51.

his majority. The one fact we get from today is Jeremy Corbyn will

:56:52.:56:55.

lead the Labour Party into the next general election, for better or

:56:56.:56:59.

worse. OK, thank you very much, thank you, Norman Smith. As you may

:57:00.:57:03.

have gathered, Jeremy Corbyn is still leader of the Labour Party,

:57:04.:57:06.

with a bigger mandate than a year ago. In a moment, the news is coming

:57:07.:57:12.

up on BBC One. We will leave you with a look back at events this

:57:13.:57:17.

morning here at the Labour conference in Liverpool. Have a good

:57:18.:57:23.

afternoon. Please welcome the 2060 leadership candidates, Jeremy Corbyn

:57:24.:57:27.

and Owen Smith. The votes cast for each candidate are as follows.

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Jeremy Corbyn, 313,000... CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Owen Smith, 190 3000. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Conference, I am delighted to declare Jeremy Corbyn is elected as

:57:58.:58:01.

leader of the Labour Party... CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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I want to thank the more than 300,000 supporters who have given me

:58:17.:58:24.

their support and trust in this Labour leadership election. I am

:58:25.:58:28.

honoured to have won the votes of the majority of members, affiliated

:58:29.:58:33.

supporters, and registered supporters. They have given me the

:58:34.:58:37.

second mandate any year to lead our party. -- in a year.

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