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Nearly half a million people have passed their vote. If he is | :00:35. | :00:42. | |
re-elected as Labour leader in about 45 minutes, Jeremy Corbyn has told | :00:43. | :00:46. | |
me he will reach out to his opponents, MPs, to everyone. He | :00:47. | :00:51. | |
said, I am very generous. Yet his challenger Owen Smith has already | :00:52. | :00:55. | |
refused to serve in a Corbyn Shadow Cabinet if he loses. Can the party | :00:56. | :01:04. | |
bring itself back together? We'll bring you the result | :01:05. | :01:05. | |
and all the reaction from the party's MPs, | :01:06. | :01:07. | |
members and the country. Our assistant political editor | :01:08. | :01:09. | |
Norman Smith is here. The confidence and Jeremy Corbyn's | :01:10. | :01:16. | |
camp is high, they think he could do even better than last year? It is | :01:17. | :01:21. | |
sky-high, to be honest. I came upon the train last night with Jeremy | :01:22. | :01:27. | |
Corbyn, this is one man who looked very relaxed, very self-confident, | :01:28. | :01:30. | |
you talk to people in his team and they think they are on course to | :01:31. | :01:36. | |
win, and big-time. Last time he got 59%, I think they think they can | :01:37. | :01:42. | |
push that up to 65%, which would be a resounding victory. And it would | :01:43. | :01:48. | |
be a shattering blow to his critics and would probably make him | :01:49. | :01:51. | |
bombproof for the rest of this Parliament. So all of those MPs who | :01:52. | :01:55. | |
think he is the problem, they will have another go at him, they had to | :01:56. | :01:59. | |
get rid of him, I think that it's game over for them. There is no way | :02:00. | :02:03. | |
they can move against him again after that size of victory. They | :02:04. | :02:08. | |
have put up candidates against him, try to change the laws, try to | :02:09. | :02:13. | |
stampede him into standing down when they all resigned from his front | :02:14. | :02:18. | |
bench, they tried to keep him off the ballot paper. They have done | :02:19. | :02:24. | |
everything to be to this man, and if he comes back with an even bigger | :02:25. | :02:28. | |
majority, he is there at least until the general election. -- they had | :02:29. | :02:32. | |
done everything to try to beat this man. So the critical question, how | :02:33. | :02:37. | |
does he bring this party together? That is the acid test in our faces. | :02:38. | :02:43. | |
He can mobilise and galvanise people, but can he bring this party | :02:44. | :02:48. | |
together? The jury is out and it is a much, much harder task. I spoke to | :02:49. | :02:54. | |
MP Heidi Alexander, who used to be Jeremy Corbyn's health spokesperson. | :02:55. | :03:04. | |
I said to her, what did he have to do to bring you back on board? She | :03:05. | :03:06. | |
said, really emphatically, to Arthur Shadow Cabinet elections, ie give us | :03:07. | :03:11. | |
the chance to vote for people to be in the Shadow Cabinet. That is his | :03:12. | :03:16. | |
only chance. It is the litmus test for many of the mainstream Labour | :03:17. | :03:21. | |
MPs. He does that, then they are in a very difficult position. If Jeremy | :03:22. | :03:27. | |
Corbyn said, OK, I know you are unhappy, I take your concerns on | :03:28. | :03:32. | |
board, I will let you choose my Shadow Cabinet. At what pressure it | :03:33. | :03:38. | |
puts on Labour MPs. How do they turn away and away and sulk and say, we | :03:39. | :03:43. | |
are still not happy? It cranks up the pressure for them to come | :03:44. | :03:52. | |
on-board. We have heard voices like Andy Burnham saying, come on, if | :03:53. | :03:54. | |
Jeremy Corbyn gives you that you have to get on board and be | :03:55. | :03:57. | |
constructed. The problem is, I don't think he will do that. It is a | :03:58. | :04:04. | |
distraction, it has come out of the blue at the last minute, it is a big | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
rule change. In other words, don't lose your breath. I think where the | :04:09. | :04:13. | |
NEC meets this evening, they will say to him, will you allow Labour | :04:14. | :04:17. | |
MPs to elect the Shadow Cabinet, he will fit into the middle distance, | :04:18. | :04:23. | |
to never never land. Then the unity begins to fray already. | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
Talking to the Shadow Chancellor McDonnell as he was finishing | :04:28. | :04:31. | |
breakfast this morning, lots of MPs who have been critical, come and | :04:32. | :04:35. | |
have a cup of tea with me, we can work this out, he said. There is no | :04:36. | :04:41. | |
rush, by the sounds of things, we will have a consultation on | :04:42. | :04:45. | |
democratic reform, in answer to the question about whether they will | :04:46. | :04:49. | |
bring back Shadow Cabinet elections. It would be lovely if Labour plus | :04:50. | :04:53. | |
back problems were so simple that a cup of tea could solve it. They are | :04:54. | :04:58. | |
so entrenched in so deep, it is a massive task. But if Jeremy Corbyn | :04:59. | :05:03. | |
increases his mandate, those MPs should get in line, plenty of | :05:04. | :05:09. | |
members will say. Some Labour MPs think the problem, bluntly, is Mr | :05:10. | :05:13. | |
Corbyn. But there is no resurrection for the Labour Party with him | :05:14. | :05:17. | |
remaining leader. They take the view that nothing fundamentally has | :05:18. | :05:24. | |
changed for this election. His approach will not change, he will | :05:25. | :05:27. | |
still be the same Jeremy. He said that the other day, he was asked, | :05:28. | :05:30. | |
what will you do differently? You said, I am the same Jeremy. They say | :05:31. | :05:35. | |
that he is not up to being a leader, he is not organised but, worst of | :05:36. | :05:39. | |
all, he is leading the party in the wrong direction. He is leading it | :05:40. | :05:47. | |
away from emphasis on being a credible parliamentary opposition | :05:48. | :05:51. | |
into becoming a different beast, a social movement. It is an entirely | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
different concept. They think that is catastrophe. They think Mr Corbyn | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
can galvanise a significant number of people, and he has. That is not | :06:01. | :06:04. | |
the same as reaching out to the millions of people who do not give a | :06:05. | :06:08. | |
toss about politics, they do not think about it until election time, | :06:09. | :06:13. | |
it is irrelevant. Their fear is that he does not speak to those who elect | :06:14. | :06:25. | |
governments. There is a clash, Mr Corbyn is at the centre of it and | :06:26. | :06:28. | |
many Labour MPs think he has to go for Labour to recover. Those Labour | :06:29. | :06:31. | |
MPs say that they have to win over Conservative and you get voters to | :06:32. | :06:33. | |
win an election, and they do not think that Mr Corbyn is the man to | :06:34. | :06:38. | |
do that because his policies are too far left? He is genuinely | :06:39. | :06:42. | |
revolutionary with a small are, he is trying to change British | :06:43. | :06:46. | |
politics. He does not have to speak to people like me all you, the | :06:47. | :06:51. | |
mainstream media. He can go directly to people through social media, his | :06:52. | :06:55. | |
army of party activists. He believes that through them engaging | :06:56. | :07:02. | |
campaigns, opposing the closure of libraries and that local grassroots | :07:03. | :07:06. | |
stuff you can influence people and change opinion. It is a totally | :07:07. | :07:11. | |
different way of doing politics. If he is right, who knows what could | :07:12. | :07:17. | |
happen? If he is wrong, as his MPs think, their fear is that the party | :07:18. | :07:23. | |
is heading to utter annihilation, potentially terminal annihilation, | :07:24. | :07:29. | |
at the next election. We expect the results at around 1145. We will | :07:30. | :07:33. | |
bring about to you live. Now it is time to look at our Labour got to | :07:34. | :07:38. | |
this point, the second leadership contest within 12 months. | :07:39. | :07:41. | |
And here it is, ten o'clock, and we are saying | :07:42. | :07:43. | |
the Conservatives are the | :07:44. | :07:44. | |
Britain needs a Labour Party that can rebuild after | :07:45. | :07:50. | |
this defeat, and now it's time for someone | :07:51. | :07:52. | |
else to take forward the | :07:53. | :07:53. | |
It doesn't have to be unfair, poverty isn't inevitable. | :07:54. | :08:06. | |
REPORTER: Have you changed your position on air | :08:07. | :08:14. | |
Mr Corbyn, will you allow your MPs a free vote? | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
You're actually very rude, the way you | :08:19. | :08:19. | |
Why is Adolf Hitler a vote winner, sir? | :08:20. | :08:31. | |
The British people have spoken, and the answer is, we're | :08:32. | :08:36. | |
Remain or Leave, many people felt that politics wasn't working for | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
He was very half-hearted in the leadership he gave to Labour | :08:41. | :08:45. | |
He's a good and decent man, but he is not a | :08:46. | :08:54. | |
It might be in my party's interests for him to sit there, it's | :08:55. | :08:58. | |
not in the national interests and I would say, | :08:59. | :09:00. | |
Don't let those people who wish us ill divide us. | :09:01. | :09:07. | |
Stay together, strong and united, for the kind of world we want to | :09:08. | :09:10. | |
Great to be anti-austerity, great to have | :09:11. | :09:21. | |
What is it we're going to do to try to change things in | :09:22. | :09:26. | |
All solutions to these sorts of international crises do come | :09:27. | :09:52. | |
Alan Smith has just arrived at the conference hall in Liverpool in the | :09:53. | :10:31. | |
last few minutes. -- Owen Smith has just arrived. Let me see if I can | :10:32. | :10:36. | |
see the expression on his face? I can't, I can tell you if he is... | :10:37. | :10:42. | |
Who knows if he is feeling confident or not. You saw Heidi Alexander just | :10:43. | :10:48. | |
behind him, who was supporting him. I had a chat with her a little | :10:49. | :10:52. | |
earlier, she was very clear that Jeremy Corbyn had to Arthur Shadow | :10:53. | :10:55. | |
Cabinet elections, that would be the only way, she said, he could bring | :10:56. | :11:00. | |
critical MPs back on board. We would you to talk to an Alan Smith | :11:01. | :11:05. | |
supporting MP, that she is stuck in a queue at the moment. So if she | :11:06. | :11:09. | |
arrives, we will bring her into conversation with Clive Lewis, an | :11:10. | :11:14. | |
MP, a supporter of Jeremy Corbyn, very close to him. He is also Shadow | :11:15. | :11:19. | |
Defence Secretary. John Ashworth, MP for Leicester South joins us, you | :11:20. | :11:22. | |
have driven up from Leicester this morning and you have a place in | :11:23. | :11:26. | |
Jeremy Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet, but you have not backed by the Cabinet | :11:27. | :11:31. | |
because of your place on Labour's ruling body, effectively, you did | :11:32. | :11:37. | |
not think it would be appropriate? Likely was, what do you expect in | :11:38. | :11:41. | |
about half an hour? Listening to the media and the commentary, if that is | :11:42. | :11:48. | |
to go by Jeremy Corbyn will win. I don't what the margin will be by. I | :11:49. | :11:54. | |
think we are all hoping that from there, I think the message Andy | :11:55. | :11:57. | |
Burnham put out in the media this morning, that the party really has | :11:58. | :12:01. | |
to get together. It can't go through another year like your video just | :12:02. | :12:07. | |
showed. You don't want this to be an annual contest? How will that help | :12:08. | :12:11. | |
is gained, for want of a better word, momentum as we begin to move | :12:12. | :12:18. | |
forward -- how will that help us gain? We can't tolerate that. To be | :12:19. | :12:24. | |
quite frank, speaking to most members, most colleagues I come | :12:25. | :12:27. | |
across, they are tired, they are worn out, they want to move forward | :12:28. | :12:31. | |
and find things that we do agree on. One of the key differences between | :12:32. | :12:35. | |
now and the 1980s, which so many people compare this to, ideological, | :12:36. | :12:41. | |
I think most of the party, when it comes to education, the NHS, public | :12:42. | :12:47. | |
ownership of rail, investing in the economy, there is a consensus across | :12:48. | :12:51. | |
the party, so let's try to focus on that and move forward. When we come | :12:52. | :12:55. | |
together, we are a lot stronger and we can begin to take on what I think | :12:56. | :13:00. | |
is a very fractious Conservative Party who have brought us to the | :13:01. | :13:05. | |
cusp of a constitutional and economic disaster, potentially, with | :13:06. | :13:08. | |
Brexit. We should be holding them to account and looking like a credible | :13:09. | :13:12. | |
Government, I think we can do that if we come together. | :13:13. | :13:18. | |
John Ashworth, are you one out? I have just got here! I think party | :13:19. | :13:23. | |
members want is to start focusing on the Tories. The Tories are in a mess | :13:24. | :13:32. | |
with their fiscal rules. A year ago they said they had a long-term | :13:33. | :13:35. | |
economic plan... Are your fellow colleagues ready to unite behind Mr | :13:36. | :13:38. | |
Corbyn should he be announced the winner? Are they ready to unite | :13:39. | :13:43. | |
behind Mr Corbyn, should he win? I think they will recognise he has | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
won, I anticipate he will win by quite a handsome margin. There has | :13:49. | :13:54. | |
been speculation of 65 or 70%. I hope they do unite. Equally, I want | :13:55. | :14:01. | |
Jeremy... I have to be honest, you don't sound confident. Let me | :14:02. | :14:06. | |
finish. Jeremy should also engage in these discussions offered about | :14:07. | :14:10. | |
having some elected form of Shadow Cabinet, not the whole Shadow | :14:11. | :14:21. | |
Cabinet, that would be silly. We have an NEC meeting this week, we | :14:22. | :14:24. | |
said we would like to try to have some discussions, ideally, to get to | :14:25. | :14:26. | |
a position by the NEC meeting tonight. I have been discussing | :14:27. | :14:29. | |
behind the scene and urging Jeremy and his team to engage positively, I | :14:30. | :14:32. | |
hope we can get somewhere. But not by 6pm tonight, presumably, or is | :14:33. | :14:37. | |
that possible? I think the deputy leader Tom Watson said he did not | :14:38. | :14:43. | |
think it was possible by 6pm? I hope so, by the National executive | :14:44. | :14:48. | |
meeting -- on the national executive meeting on Tuesday we said, let's | :14:49. | :14:52. | |
try to get somewhere by Tuesday. John McDonnell said we would open | :14:53. | :14:56. | |
consultation, we will not rush it because we don't want to into this. | :14:57. | :15:01. | |
John will understand this, when we go back to Parliament in a couple of | :15:02. | :15:07. | |
weeks, we had to fill the 60 vacant places on the front bench. We have | :15:08. | :15:11. | |
great ministers, people who have been rapidly promoted are doing a | :15:12. | :15:15. | |
great job, but we need other colleagues in there. If this is a | :15:16. | :15:19. | |
way of getting them back, we need to positively engage. Wattel Mr Corbyn | :15:20. | :15:20. | |
do? The PLP is not homogenous, and we | :15:21. | :15:30. | |
understand that if Jeremy Corbyn wins again for a second time, having | :15:31. | :15:35. | |
what we had is not acceptable. There are more people now who are going to | :15:36. | :15:39. | |
say, OK, we understand that perhaps many of us did not quite give you | :15:40. | :15:43. | |
the chance that you deserved - we are going to give you that now, but | :15:44. | :15:48. | |
that requires some trust, and I think in conflict resolution, both | :15:49. | :15:52. | |
sides have to say, you did not play fair last time, there were things we | :15:53. | :15:56. | |
did not do right, let's put that to the side and come together. That | :15:57. | :16:00. | |
does take a bit of trust, because what Jeremy Corbyn is going to have | :16:01. | :16:04. | |
to do, he may well win handsomely, but he will have to, effectively, if | :16:05. | :16:09. | |
he allows elected a Shadow Cabinet members onto his Shadow Cabinet, he | :16:10. | :16:15. | |
will be saying, I am going to trust you, you are not going to spend time | :16:16. | :16:20. | |
boxing me in, undermining me, going through the process that we did in | :16:21. | :16:24. | |
the first Shadow Cabinet. I think that is a leap of faith that he will | :16:25. | :16:29. | |
have to take, potentially. I do not know his mind, but there will have | :16:30. | :16:32. | |
to be a meeting in the middle. You know what the mood music is, is he | :16:33. | :16:38. | |
heading towards that? I do not think anyone in the leader's office wants | :16:39. | :16:43. | |
to see things carry on as they are, that is a powerful incentive. So | :16:44. | :16:46. | |
Jeremy Corbyn must compromise, and there is an onus on the critical | :16:47. | :16:58. | |
backbench MPs. If it goes ahead, if something like that is sorted out, | :16:59. | :17:01. | |
it cannot be a platform to basically spend another year undermining the | :17:02. | :17:03. | |
leader. So the deal would be, you can vote for who you want in the top | :17:04. | :17:07. | |
team, as long as you do not criticise the leader. You are | :17:08. | :17:10. | |
suggesting that as a possibility. I think that is fair and a spot-on, | :17:11. | :17:14. | |
and that is the approach I have been taking when I have been talking to | :17:15. | :17:18. | |
people behind the scenes this week. Ultimately, we have to remember that | :17:19. | :17:22. | |
it is all very interesting what we think, it is what the public think, | :17:23. | :17:26. | |
and we might have a general election next year, I don't know, but we have | :17:27. | :17:32. | |
got important county council elections, mayoral collections, | :17:33. | :17:35. | |
Scottish elections, and the party will focus on them, and we have to | :17:36. | :17:38. | |
speak to people in the country and get them to vote Labour next year. | :17:39. | :17:43. | |
That is the big message from conference. How do you explain | :17:44. | :17:49. | |
Jeremy Corbyn being so attractive to certain people, which swelled Labour | :17:50. | :17:52. | |
membership, no problem recruiting members, but when it comes to the | :17:53. | :17:58. | |
wider electorate, he is not popular? In the taxi on the way here, my taxi | :17:59. | :18:03. | |
driver, working-class, Liverpudlian, said, who are you supporting? I know | :18:04. | :18:07. | |
it is anecdotal, but we all tell anecdotal stories, and I thought, | :18:08. | :18:11. | |
there we go, I support Jeremy Corbyn. He said, good, I am a | :18:12. | :18:16. | |
working class person, and I am so pleased, I hope you keep Jeremy | :18:17. | :18:19. | |
Corbyn, because he is talking in a way that we have not heard | :18:20. | :18:22. | |
politician speak, we are sick and tired of the same old rubbish. He's | :18:23. | :18:29. | |
the only Leader of the Opposition, excluding Michael Foot, since the | :18:30. | :18:33. | |
1970s, who has had negative ratings from the start of his ten-year and | :18:34. | :18:40. | |
has carried on that way. At the start of his tenure, he was not far | :18:41. | :18:46. | |
off the incumbent, he was likely be low. He was a new person, many did | :18:47. | :18:50. | |
not know him, and he had a negative media profile on his way up. What | :18:51. | :18:55. | |
you cannot take out of that equation, though, is the fact that | :18:56. | :18:59. | |
the public do not like, as Jonathan was saying, divided parties. That is | :19:00. | :19:02. | |
going to have an impact. Jeremy Corbyn is the face of the Labour | :19:03. | :19:08. | |
Party, he dominates the media headlines. So if the party unites, | :19:09. | :19:13. | |
those negative ratings will turn to positive? If the party unite and we | :19:14. | :19:16. | |
are moving in the right direction, of course it is incumbent upon | :19:17. | :19:20. | |
Jeremy Corbyn to play his part in moving those ratings in the right | :19:21. | :19:24. | |
direction. Final thought, how will you measure success if he wins? We | :19:25. | :19:29. | |
have to start making good progress in next's election, not set some | :19:30. | :19:35. | |
ridiculous targets and say, oh, he has missed it, but progress in the | :19:36. | :19:38. | |
constituencies that the side general elections. All the energy we have | :19:39. | :19:42. | |
seen in the campaign, 40,000 people working on Jeremy Corbyn's campaign, | :19:43. | :19:47. | |
some great stuff online - let's take that and targeted at the people that | :19:48. | :19:52. | |
we need to win in the country. If we can do that, we will have a positive | :19:53. | :19:56. | |
outcome. Thank you both very much. Let's cross to Vicki Young, who is | :19:57. | :20:07. | |
at a rally up the road, morning! Hi there, this is a festival going | :20:08. | :20:11. | |
on here, four days of looking at politics, looking at culture, and it | :20:12. | :20:16. | |
really is a carnival atmosphere, lots of people crowding into a very | :20:17. | :20:21. | |
hot room to see the result. They all expect and hope Jeremy Corbyn to be | :20:22. | :20:25. | |
re-elected as Labour leader. Let's speak to one of the organisers, | :20:26. | :20:30. | |
Hattie Craig, white are you doing this? This is to bring together the | :20:31. | :20:34. | |
much wider social movement which exists in Britain, all the people | :20:35. | :20:40. | |
involved in the campaigns, to reconnect with the Labour Party. We | :20:41. | :20:43. | |
are bringing in ordinary people who might not have been engaged with | :20:44. | :20:47. | |
politics at Westminster, but who would be interested in hearing talks | :20:48. | :20:50. | |
and discussions on issues relevant to their lives, seeing political | :20:51. | :20:55. | |
screenings, and it is to bring together as many different voices as | :20:56. | :20:59. | |
possible. There has been some controversy around Momentum, people | :21:00. | :21:05. | |
saying this is rivalling the Labour Party conference, you are trying to | :21:06. | :21:09. | |
undermine it, what do you say to that? Absolutely not, there is a | :21:10. | :21:13. | |
fringe for the conference every year, it is part of a long-standing | :21:14. | :21:17. | |
tradition, so we are taking part of the fringe event. This is not a | :21:18. | :21:21. | |
conference, it is not decision-making, it is a place for | :21:22. | :21:26. | |
discussion, art and culture, and it is to complement the conference, not | :21:27. | :21:30. | |
as a rival. How would you describe Jeremy Corbyn's appeal? Since he | :21:31. | :21:34. | |
became leader, we have seen thousands of people joining the | :21:35. | :21:37. | |
Labour Party, what do you think it is down to? He offers a different | :21:38. | :21:41. | |
vision for society, a sense of hope and reconnection to ordinary people. | :21:42. | :21:48. | |
He comes across as being different from politicians, he is an ordinary | :21:49. | :21:52. | |
man, he does not claim maximum expenses, he has not been a banker | :21:53. | :21:57. | |
or had a high-flying previous job in the financial sector. I think he | :21:58. | :22:00. | |
speaks to people, and the policies that he is putting forward on the | :22:01. | :22:04. | |
table are just so very different from what we have seen from Labour | :22:05. | :22:08. | |
for so many years, and they are really inspiring people. What have | :22:09. | :22:11. | |
you felt about what has been going on in the Labour Party? Most of his | :22:12. | :22:18. | |
MPs walked out on him, how can they come back together? I found it very | :22:19. | :22:22. | |
disappointing, the way that the PLP has behaved. It is very important | :22:23. | :22:25. | |
that our elected representatives respect the mandate that the | :22:26. | :22:28. | |
leadership is given by the members, so I would like to see, in this | :22:29. | :22:35. | |
period, hopefully reconciliation processes where MPs respect the | :22:36. | :22:38. | |
democratic mandates that Jeremy Corbyn has been given, and he brings | :22:39. | :22:43. | |
them back in as well. Thank you very much indeed. Everyone getting pretty | :22:44. | :22:48. | |
excited now before that result, 750 people here, we are being told. | :22:49. | :22:55. | |
Cheers, Vicki, thank you for the moment. Back in the conference | :22:56. | :23:01. | |
centre, Norman, who are you with? I am with Matt Wrack of the Fire | :23:02. | :23:05. | |
Brigades Union and David Anderson, a member of the Shadow Cabinet, two | :23:06. | :23:10. | |
jobs at the moment. Let's talk about Shadow Cabinet, how critical is it | :23:11. | :23:18. | |
that members of the Labour PLP, Labour MPs, can elect the Shadow | :23:19. | :23:22. | |
Cabinet, or is it all irrelevant? It is very relevant, it is how we go | :23:23. | :23:27. | |
about it. The NEC agreed to have a proper look last week, they put out | :23:28. | :23:31. | |
a number of options, to work through to a situation where we can come | :23:32. | :23:34. | |
together and have a Shadow Cabinet that reflects all parts of the | :23:35. | :23:38. | |
party, which is what we really need. The idea of just having Labour MPs | :23:39. | :23:43. | |
elected the Shadow Cabinet, is it acceptable? As I said before, we are | :23:44. | :23:47. | |
in the middle of a review, and I think it will say, is there a | :23:48. | :23:51. | |
mechanism by which members can take part? Is there a role for them to | :23:52. | :23:55. | |
appoint some people, and can me and my colleagues also say who we want | :23:56. | :24:00. | |
to elect? But you will know there are some Labour MPs who say, unless | :24:01. | :24:04. | |
they can elect to go to the Shadow Cabinet, they are not joining the | :24:05. | :24:08. | |
front bench. That is their choice, but we are a member based party, | :24:09. | :24:12. | |
those people should have some say in what we do and how we work, and how | :24:13. | :24:17. | |
best we pulled together. That is what this week is about, how best to | :24:18. | :24:23. | |
serve the country. Matt Wrack, you are a Corbyn supporter, what do you | :24:24. | :24:27. | |
say to the Labour MPs who, despite the expected win for Mr Corbyn say, | :24:28. | :24:33. | |
no, we will not get back on board? Let's see what happens today, | :24:34. | :24:36. | |
obviously I hope Jeremy is re-elected, and I hope, if that is | :24:37. | :24:40. | |
the outcome, people will unite around it. We won an election just a | :24:41. | :24:45. | |
year ago, unfortunately some people did not accept that outcome. In the | :24:46. | :24:51. | |
trade union movement and among Labour Party members, there will be | :24:52. | :24:54. | |
very much a mood to get around those ideas and policies that people have | :24:55. | :24:58. | |
voted for. If Mr Corbyn wins, does it make him politically bombproof in | :24:59. | :25:03. | |
terms of future possible challengers before the next election? I am not | :25:04. | :25:06. | |
accountable for what other people do, I was surprised that this | :25:07. | :25:11. | |
election happened. I think it was unnecessary, in such a short space | :25:12. | :25:14. | |
of time after the last leadership election. But that was what | :25:15. | :25:19. | |
happened, and if people want to do that again, that is a matter for | :25:20. | :25:23. | |
them. I would hope not. The job that working people want to see who's | :25:24. | :25:26. | |
taking on the Tories, what devastating public services, | :25:27. | :25:29. | |
attacking our rights, and we want to see the Labour Party in Parliament | :25:30. | :25:34. | |
leading on that. And this leadership election, how damaging has it been | :25:35. | :25:38. | |
for the party? I think it has been somewhat damaging, I think the | :25:39. | :25:43. | |
discord in the Parliamentary Labour Party has been the primary source of | :25:44. | :25:48. | |
that. And I think that a lot of MPs have gone back to their | :25:49. | :25:50. | |
constituencies and felt very clearly the views of Labour Party members, | :25:51. | :25:56. | |
many of them, and trade unionists, did not think this was necessary and | :25:57. | :25:59. | |
should have been avoided. What you think of the impact of this contest | :26:00. | :26:04. | |
on the party? We have at three months of internal navel-gazing when | :26:05. | :26:06. | |
we should have been attacking the Tory government. The Prime Minister | :26:07. | :26:12. | |
gave this country the biggest headache it has ever had, and he | :26:13. | :26:16. | |
walked away, and what are we doing? Arguing with each other. We need to | :26:17. | :26:21. | |
do what we are paid to do, get into parliament, work together, oppose | :26:22. | :26:24. | |
this government, but forward a platform so that the people of this | :26:25. | :26:29. | |
country have an alternative. David Anderson, Matt Wrack, thanks very | :26:30. | :26:32. | |
much for your time, I will let you get into the conference hall. You | :26:33. | :26:36. | |
can just see people beginning to trickle into the conference hall, | :26:37. | :26:39. | |
they had better get a shift on, and I think Tom Watson, Vic, has also | :26:40. | :26:46. | |
just arrived, if I am not mistaken. Yes, we saw the pictures of him | :26:47. | :26:50. | |
walking in, thank you very much, Norman. We have five Labour members | :26:51. | :26:55. | |
here, Alice is a councillor and Labour member. James, what have you | :26:56. | :27:02. | |
made of the contest? It has got in the way of activities, we have had | :27:03. | :27:06. | |
to suspend meetings because of intimidation, and I think, you know, | :27:07. | :27:10. | |
it has stalled the party for quite some time. I am not happy with | :27:11. | :27:14. | |
Jeremy Corbyn's leadership, and I think it was essential to encourage | :27:15. | :27:19. | |
debate about where the party is heading. Have you been intimidated | :27:20. | :27:24. | |
by someone? I have received threats and intimidation. Verbally, online? | :27:25. | :27:30. | |
Mostly on social media. You think that is because you are an Owen | :27:31. | :27:35. | |
Smith supporter? I do not define myself as an Owen Smith supporter, I | :27:36. | :27:40. | |
have voted for him, but I think that is because I am not part of the | :27:41. | :27:45. | |
exclusive Momentum group, that is why I am a victim of abuse. Andy, | :27:46. | :27:50. | |
what have you made of this contest? I think the contest was needed | :27:51. | :27:53. | |
because the PLP did not have confidence in Jeremy Corbyn, and | :27:54. | :27:58. | |
what we see is a party divided between the Members of Parliament | :27:59. | :28:01. | |
and the members of the party, and we did need this to clarify that, and | :28:02. | :28:06. | |
this has clarified that, and that was the tendency to stand behind the | :28:07. | :28:11. | |
leader. Are you expecting it to be Jeremy Corbyn? I am expecting it to | :28:12. | :28:14. | |
be Owen Smith, I am still optimistic, I think he can win. | :28:15. | :28:19. | |
Alice, you supported Jeremy Corbyn last time, you have supported him | :28:20. | :28:23. | |
this time. I will support him again if I have to! You don't want this to | :28:24. | :28:29. | |
become an annual thing do you? It is less than annual, it is a waste of | :28:30. | :28:33. | |
time and resources, the Labour Party is better than this, and I am so | :28:34. | :28:37. | |
glad Jeremy stuck with it, because I will stick with him. What as the | :28:38. | :28:45. | |
contest achieved? Nothing, it has damaged Labour's chance is a letter | :28:46. | :28:49. | |
read. We were and neck before the coup, and now we are 12 points | :28:50. | :28:54. | |
behind. This did not have to happen, the Tories were in disarray after | :28:55. | :28:58. | |
the Brexit vote, and we could have got behind our leader and supported | :28:59. | :29:03. | |
him and had one over on the Tories, uniting as a real opposition to the | :29:04. | :29:06. | |
Tories. Instead, MPs decided to take the opportunity to elect a new | :29:07. | :29:12. | |
leader, but the party overwhelmingly supports Jeremy Corbyn. Showed his | :29:13. | :29:16. | |
name be announced as the winner, how will you feel? I will be made up, | :29:17. | :29:21. | |
because I support Jeremy Corbyn! What about yourself? I honestly | :29:22. | :29:27. | |
didn't see the point of this leadership election, because I | :29:28. | :29:31. | |
thought that it would only lead to the people who support Corbyn to be | :29:32. | :29:35. | |
galvanised, and he would increase his majority, and therefore the PLP | :29:36. | :29:41. | |
would be more fractured. But seeing the testimonies of different MPs, | :29:42. | :29:45. | |
saying how they cannot communicate with Jeremy Corbyn, I was compelled | :29:46. | :29:49. | |
to vote for Owen Smith, even though I know he is not going to win. | :29:50. | :29:55. | |
Thank you all very much. Not long to go now. We expect the outcome in | :29:56. | :30:04. | |
around 15 minutes, but these things are often, inevitably, a little | :30:05. | :30:09. | |
later than scheduled. Let's take a closer look at the two men who want | :30:10. | :30:14. | |
the job of leading Labour, starting with Mr Corbyn. | :30:15. | :30:16. | |
# I ride my bicycle in the rain and I feel like Jeremy Corbyn...# | :30:17. | :30:23. | |
He's been a fixture of British politics for 40 years, | :30:24. | :30:26. | |
a regular at marches, a champion of causes. | :30:27. | :30:29. | |
There are social solutions to the problems, | :30:30. | :30:31. | |
and the solution is socialism at the end of the day! | :30:32. | :30:36. | |
Jeremy Corbyn's political life started in the 1970s, | :30:37. | :30:38. | |
a trade union organiser and Labour councillor in London. | :30:39. | :30:46. | |
In 1983, just as Margaret Thatcher was winning a huge majority, | :30:47. | :30:52. | |
winning last time with a 21,000 majority. | :30:53. | :31:00. | |
But he was always a critic of New Labour, | :31:01. | :31:02. | |
voting against the party line more than 500 times. | :31:03. | :31:06. | |
More recently, he chaired the Stop The War Coalition, | :31:07. | :31:10. | |
became a leading figure in the anti-austerity movement. | :31:11. | :31:16. | |
Still, no-one gave him a chance when he entered the contest | :31:17. | :31:18. | |
to succeed Ed Miliband as Labour leader. | :31:19. | :31:21. | |
His campaign started attracting large crowds - | :31:22. | :31:26. | |
The new leader promised a new type of politics. | :31:27. | :31:43. | |
I sent out an e-mail to thousands of people and asked them | :31:44. | :31:46. | |
what questions they would like to put to the Prime Minister. | :31:47. | :31:52. | |
But while he had the support of Labour members, | :31:53. | :31:54. | |
Jeremy Corbyn has never had the full backing of his own MPs. | :31:55. | :31:59. | |
There were clashes over his policies on Syria | :32:00. | :32:02. | |
and the new generation of nuclear weapons. | :32:03. | :32:07. | |
The row came to a head after the EU referendum. | :32:08. | :32:11. | |
One after another, his top team walked out. | :32:12. | :32:13. | |
There was a vote of no-confidence | :32:14. | :32:15. | |
I've served...in the best way I can, and today I had to go. | :32:16. | :32:22. | |
But he refused to quit and stood again for re-election. | :32:23. | :32:25. | |
The Labour Party saw a big increase in its membership, | :32:26. | :32:28. | |
but the contest was at times bad tempered. | :32:29. | :32:31. | |
There were allegations of abuse on both sides. | :32:32. | :32:37. | |
There was a row over space on a train network - | :32:38. | :32:39. | |
a game of Pokemon and a poor grasp of TV trivia. | :32:40. | :32:48. | |
Do you know who these two men are? No, I don't. | :32:49. | :32:52. | |
I cannot name them, I'm really sorry. | :32:53. | :32:57. | |
Now opinion polls suggest an easy victory for Jeremy Corbyn. | :32:58. | :32:59. | |
No longer the outsider - this time he's the firm favourite. | :33:00. | :33:02. | |
We will have a look at Owen Smith in just a moment. | :33:03. | :33:20. | |
Anuksha Asthana is political editor of the Guardian. | :33:21. | :33:22. | |
Jim Waterson is Buzzfeed's political editor. | :33:23. | :33:26. | |
If Jeremy Corbyn wins bigger than a year ago, then what? Them the role | :33:27. | :33:33. | |
for him is to try to unite the party and see whether or not he can | :33:34. | :33:37. | |
actually get more MPs behind him. There will be this crunch meeting of | :33:38. | :33:42. | |
the party's national executive tonight, and I don't think Jeremy | :33:43. | :33:45. | |
Corbyn is ready to sign in to any deal about how he puts together his | :33:46. | :33:49. | |
Shadow Cabinet particularly if, as you say, as is well expected, he did | :33:50. | :33:55. | |
even better than last year. But he still has to operating Westminster, | :33:56. | :34:03. | |
his people know that. What is the issue for you, Jim, should Jeremy | :34:04. | :34:06. | |
Corbyn be confirmed as leader again in a few minutes? The main issue for | :34:07. | :34:09. | |
the auntie Corbyn members and activists is whether they bother to | :34:10. | :34:14. | |
remain within the Labour Party. If they get completely trounced, what | :34:15. | :34:18. | |
we will see is an effort to try to people -- try to keep people within | :34:19. | :34:21. | |
the party. If you support Owen Smith, they will try to reach out to | :34:22. | :34:25. | |
you to keep paying your membership sub in case of another election. But | :34:26. | :34:29. | |
they have a long way back. There is a lot of ideas, a lot of structure. | :34:30. | :34:36. | |
Corbyn's site has ideas, Momentum, everything. | :34:37. | :34:44. | |
Owen Smith was virtually unknown outside Westminster until recent | :34:45. | :34:46. | |
weeks. One party activist told me they had been an activist for years | :34:47. | :34:51. | |
and had never heard of him until this contest, the Conti Breed MP | :34:52. | :34:52. | |
Owen Smith. -- the Pontypridd MP. Hi, I'm Owen Smith and I'm | :34:53. | :34:58. | |
standing to be the leader Even his biggest supporters | :34:59. | :35:00. | |
would concede that. Owen Smith used to work | :35:01. | :35:05. | |
at the BBC, then as an adviser I'm going to be wandering | :35:06. | :35:07. | |
about and telling people... In 2006, he stood for election | :35:08. | :35:13. | |
for the first time, losing Politics is about the people, | :35:14. | :35:18. | |
but I think it's also about power. By then, he was working | :35:19. | :35:26. | |
for the American drugs company Pfizer in its Government | :35:27. | :35:29. | |
relations team. Four years later he stood | :35:30. | :35:32. | |
for Parliament again, He was promoted quickly, first | :35:33. | :35:33. | |
as Labour's Shadow Welsh Minister, and then a key role in charge | :35:34. | :35:43. | |
of the party's policies He was never an outspoken | :35:44. | :35:46. | |
critic of Jeremy Corbyn, but after the EU vote he was one | :35:47. | :35:57. | |
of the 52 MPs who walked out I cannot see how he can | :35:58. | :36:00. | |
continue, and we desperately It was one of his colleagues, | :36:01. | :36:06. | |
Angela Eagle, who made the first move, challenging | :36:07. | :36:11. | |
for the leadership. Soon, though, it was clear | :36:12. | :36:14. | |
Owen Smith had more support. Angela Eagle, gay with no children, | :36:15. | :36:18. | |
stepped aside, but only after Smith had stressed his | :36:19. | :36:20. | |
normal family background. I was in no way implying that | :36:21. | :36:25. | |
anybody who's got a different sexuality or a different lifestyle | :36:26. | :36:28. | |
to me is anything other He launched his campaign | :36:29. | :36:30. | |
with a raft of policies... Ending university tuition fees, | :36:31. | :36:46. | |
building more council houses, a second EU referendum. That's what we | :36:47. | :36:47. | |
need. But his rallies were more low-key | :36:48. | :36:50. | |
at a time when Corbyn and his team were packing out town halls | :36:51. | :36:53. | |
with their supporters. He was forced to defend his past | :36:54. | :36:55. | |
and his background working And that was the answer | :36:56. | :36:58. | |
we were after. There were a series of debates - | :36:59. | :37:05. | |
in Newcastle, Glasgow, He was criticised for suggesting | :37:06. | :37:09. | |
we should negotiate All solutions to these sorts | :37:10. | :37:13. | |
of international crises do come And he warned of splits | :37:14. | :37:18. | |
in the Labour Party The Labour Party is | :37:19. | :37:25. | |
standing on the edge The people in the undecided section | :37:26. | :37:28. | |
have moved and swelled the ranks It's grassroots Labour supporters | :37:29. | :37:40. | |
who will decide this election, and they may prove far more | :37:41. | :37:43. | |
difficult to win over. Still with us, the joint political | :37:44. | :37:58. | |
editor of the Guardian and political editor of BuzzFeed News. | :37:59. | :38:03. | |
Owen Smith surgery in the contest that if Jeremy Corbyn wins, the | :38:04. | :38:08. | |
Labour Party will spread. Is that likely? -- Owen Smith said during | :38:09. | :38:13. | |
the contest. I don't think so, most people do not think a split would be | :38:14. | :38:18. | |
successful. Whether they like it or not, Labour is a very big brand in | :38:19. | :38:24. | |
this country, and they would not have that. So some people in the | :38:25. | :38:31. | |
party would stay and fight for the backbenchers if he loses, as | :38:32. | :38:36. | |
expected. Somebody sent me an Owen Smith emoji yesterday, black glasses | :38:37. | :38:40. | |
and a yellow face. He will take that away. If Jeremy Corbyn wins, and | :38:41. | :38:45. | |
critical Labour MPs cannot get behind him, is there hope of getting | :38:46. | :38:52. | |
rid of him, an early general election? I can't imagine. The only | :38:53. | :38:56. | |
way you will get rid of Jeremy Corbyn now, as I see it, is if he | :38:57. | :39:01. | |
quits or there is mass disillusionment among the Labour | :39:02. | :39:05. | |
members. I have written a fantastic piece for BuzzFeed today, it looks | :39:06. | :39:09. | |
at how there is not the support infrastructure around Owen Smith, | :39:10. | :39:13. | |
there is not the moderate centrist Labour organisation. Jeremy Corbyn | :39:14. | :39:16. | |
might struggle in a general election, but in terms of winning an | :39:17. | :39:21. | |
internal Labour election he is a cut above. The old campaign teams who | :39:22. | :39:25. | |
have won elections internally for Tony Blair, Gordon Brown etc, their | :39:26. | :39:29. | |
skills do not work in the same way any more and they need to go away, | :39:30. | :39:36. | |
think about running a campaign and think about and using the Labour | :39:37. | :39:38. | |
voters. Theresa May promised there would not be an early general | :39:39. | :39:44. | |
election, why are you rating your eyebrows, Anuksha? A lot in the | :39:45. | :39:47. | |
Labour Party think she would go for an early general election, perhaps | :39:48. | :39:51. | |
if she thinks it would get rid of Jeremy Corbyn and he is a weak | :39:52. | :39:54. | |
leader than that would be an argument for her to wait longer. It | :39:55. | :39:58. | |
is interesting what Jim is saying, they had a huge number of members, | :39:59. | :40:03. | |
the Labour Party. Can they mobilise that in a way to help them? Lots of | :40:04. | :40:08. | |
it is starry eyed about Jeremy Corbyn, people talk about the cult | :40:09. | :40:14. | |
of Corgan. Just outside here I had a bloke tell me that he loved Jeremy | :40:15. | :40:18. | |
Corbyn, partly because of his initials, JC, the man was a | :40:19. | :40:22. | |
Christian. That was a bit weird. But can they do something with what they | :40:23. | :40:27. | |
have built in the party? Sources at the Guardian saying Jeremy Corbyn | :40:28. | :40:31. | |
has won. I am not quite sure the margin. I think you could have | :40:32. | :40:38. | |
pointed to this at various points over the last few weeks. They have | :40:39. | :40:44. | |
obviously spoken to somebody. Let's speak to Norman Smith in the | :40:45. | :40:47. | |
conference hall. What are you hearing? | :40:48. | :40:52. | |
I think that is a fairly safe bet that Jeremy Corbyn has won, I am not | :40:53. | :40:56. | |
sure it is breaking news, I think everybody expects that. The question | :40:57. | :41:01. | |
is whether he increases his mandate from the 59% he got last year, loose | :41:02. | :41:06. | |
chatter around whether he can push it to 65%. I am joined by Louise | :41:07. | :41:11. | |
Ellman, Liverpool MP, chair of the transport select committee. If Mr | :41:12. | :41:15. | |
Corbyn wins, doesn't it open up not just a rift between him and Labour | :41:16. | :41:23. | |
MPs but also an emerging rift between the parliamentary party and | :41:24. | :41:25. | |
ordinary party members, who appear to back Mr Corbyn? If Jeremy wins, | :41:26. | :41:31. | |
as expected, I think that is a great challenge for Jeremy. He has to | :41:32. | :41:35. | |
understand that while it is great to have adoration from your own | :41:36. | :41:38. | |
supporters within the party, and that is terrific and infuses you, it | :41:39. | :41:43. | |
is nowhere near enough. He has to get the support of the electorate, | :41:44. | :41:48. | |
the people who vote in the general election, that is very different. | :41:49. | :41:53. | |
Some people say he has become intoxicated by the selfie culture, | :41:54. | :41:56. | |
the fan club and personality culture. He is enjoying going from | :41:57. | :42:03. | |
meeting to meeting of people already committed to him, cheering him. It | :42:04. | :42:07. | |
is wonderful being surrounded by your fans. But he is the Leader of | :42:08. | :42:11. | |
the Opposition, who want to be the party of Government, and the people | :42:12. | :42:15. | |
who can make that happen are not just those who already agree with | :42:16. | :42:19. | |
him, it is the general public. Add to now, they are not impressed and | :42:20. | :42:24. | |
things have to change. Key to the pleas of unity seems to be the issue | :42:25. | :42:28. | |
of the elections to the Shadow Cabinet, allowing Labour MPs to | :42:29. | :42:32. | |
choose who serves. If Mr Corbyn does not bite on that, is there any | :42:33. | :42:37. | |
prospect of unity with the PLP? I think the key thing is for Jeremy | :42:38. | :42:43. | |
Corbyn, if re-elected leader, to reach out to the electorate and have | :42:44. | :42:46. | |
a Shadow Cabinet that he is -- that is looking outwards, not inwards. | :42:47. | :42:51. | |
Developing policies, arguing effectively, challenging the | :42:52. | :42:54. | |
Government in Parliament but reaching outward to the community, | :42:55. | :42:58. | |
not just the membership. How he does that is a separate issue, but that | :42:59. | :43:03. | |
is the task and the challenge. Talking to one of his key allies | :43:04. | :43:08. | |
this morning, he said that elections to the Shadow Cabinet are a | :43:09. | :43:11. | |
distraction, it has come out of the blue, it is a major rule change, ie | :43:12. | :43:17. | |
it is not happening. If it does not, would you advise Labour MPs to stay | :43:18. | :43:22. | |
on the backbenchers or get involved? Individuals will have to make their | :43:23. | :43:26. | |
own decisions. I would say we need to work together and the unified, | :43:27. | :43:30. | |
but that is about working with the membership, yes, but above all with | :43:31. | :43:34. | |
the general public, to win a general election and put right some of the | :43:35. | :43:42. | |
dreadful wrong is being carried out, day by day. It is no good being | :43:43. | :43:45. | |
surrounded by people who already agree with you. | :43:46. | :43:47. | |
Andy Burnham want this morning that if the party did not unite, it could | :43:48. | :43:54. | |
face terminal decline? The warning is very timely, we had | :43:55. | :43:58. | |
to unite on the basis of reaching out to the electorate and the | :43:59. | :44:02. | |
general population to argue the Labour case for our credibility to | :44:03. | :44:06. | |
be the next Government, that is what the Parliamentary Labour Party is | :44:07. | :44:10. | |
all about, Labour is a Parliamentary party. You risk missing the big | :44:11. | :44:15. | |
announcements, so I will let you go. Here is the ticket you need to get | :44:16. | :44:20. | |
in. We are getting pretty close to blast off for that announcement as | :44:21. | :44:32. | |
to who has won, which will be put up on a big screen and will show as how | :44:33. | :44:35. | |
each of the different sections have voted, how much support Mr Corbyn | :44:36. | :44:37. | |
got from party members, registered supporters and the affiliated | :44:38. | :44:39. | |
supporters in the trade unions, so we will see what support the | :44:40. | :44:43. | |
candidates have in each area. Guardian reporter Heather Stewart on | :44:44. | :44:48. | |
Twitter says, I am hearing Jeremy Corbyn has won with 62% of the vote, | :44:49. | :44:54. | |
up on last year. He got just under 60% last year. That is what the | :44:55. | :44:58. | |
Guardian has said in the last few minutes. | :44:59. | :45:02. | |
If that is right, Team Corbyn will present but as further consolidation | :45:03. | :45:12. | |
of their mandate. It has not gone up to 65%, as there were some | :45:13. | :45:14. | |
suggestions, but he has boosted his mandate in the party. More than | :45:15. | :45:19. | |
that, he has built up the party, 551,000 members, around half a | :45:20. | :45:23. | |
million people, took part in this contest. He has brought 41,000 | :45:24. | :45:28. | |
volunteers on board. For somebody in post for a year, who has taken all | :45:29. | :45:33. | |
the hits and attacks he has had, the divisions, to still be building | :45:34. | :45:37. | |
support, his team will present but as a big win and a further | :45:38. | :45:41. | |
consolidation up his mandate. I think it raises a serious question | :45:42. | :45:46. | |
for his critics of what they do now, and whether they can credibly keep | :45:47. | :45:51. | |
digging away, trying to undermine him. You know, they have tried to | :45:52. | :45:56. | |
take him on in a leadership contest and lost, not only have they lost | :45:57. | :46:00. | |
but it appears to be a big-time loss. This contest has achieved | :46:01. | :46:04. | |
exactly what they did not want, far from being weakened, which was the | :46:05. | :46:09. | |
hope, that is mandate would go down, it appears his mandate has been | :46:10. | :46:13. | |
strengthened. Now I would reckon Mr Corbyn is almost bombproof now, | :46:14. | :46:17. | |
until the next election. I cannot see who on earth would challenge | :46:18. | :46:22. | |
him. Angela Eagle originally triggered this contest and then | :46:23. | :46:26. | |
pulled out, Owen Smith went for it, saying I am the better candidate, I | :46:27. | :46:30. | |
can build more people behind me. Does not really seem to happen. So | :46:31. | :46:34. | |
you had to ask who is this mysterious challenger who can | :46:35. | :46:40. | |
credibly take on Jeremy Corbyn. You are scratching your head, thinking, | :46:41. | :46:44. | |
I don't see this person. Translated into English it means they're | :46:45. | :46:48. | |
probably will not be under the leadership contest. Added to which, | :46:49. | :46:53. | |
Mr Corbyn has built this huge support with Momentum. They have got | :46:54. | :46:57. | |
their conference within a conference going on at the same time. He has | :46:58. | :47:01. | |
built outside Parliament this massive body of support which no | :47:02. | :47:06. | |
other Labour leader had done. The striking thing, it is personal | :47:07. | :47:09. | |
support. They are not just signing up to the Labour Party and Labour | :47:10. | :47:14. | |
Party values, they are signed up to Jeremy Corbyn. Without being trite, | :47:15. | :47:19. | |
they are his fan club, it is almost a personality cult around Jeremy | :47:20. | :47:22. | |
Corbyn, because he is a different political leader. He does not do | :47:23. | :47:35. | |
things the same way as everyone else, does not play by the normal | :47:36. | :47:37. | |
rules. People like that because they think it is not business as usual, | :47:38. | :47:40. | |
he is an alternative leader with a different vision. The difficulty is | :47:41. | :47:43. | |
that many MPs simply do not believe it will translate into electoral | :47:44. | :47:45. | |
victory. For all the selfies, adulation and the big rallies, it | :47:46. | :47:47. | |
simply won't translate into votes at the ballot box, that is what they | :47:48. | :47:48. | |
believe matters. I think things are beginning to warm | :47:49. | :47:57. | |
up in the hall. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | :47:58. | :48:19. | |
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the chair of the National Executive | :48:20. | :48:36. | |
Committee, Paddy Lillis. APPLAUSE | :48:37. | :48:45. | |
Thank you, conference. I will now be announcing the votes cast for each | :48:46. | :48:52. | |
candidate. We will also show the number of votes cast by each | :48:53. | :48:58. | |
candidate of elector. Full details of the results will be available on | :48:59. | :49:04. | |
the Labour Party website following this event. The result of the | :49:05. | :49:07. | |
election for the leader of the Labour Party is as follows. The | :49:08. | :49:14. | |
number of eligible voters is 654,006. | :49:15. | :49:16. | |
APPLAUSE The number of eligible voters | :49:17. | :49:31. | |
casting a vote in this contest is 506,000 438. -- 506,438. The number | :49:32. | :49:45. | |
of spoiled votes was 432. The votes cast for each candidate are as | :49:46. | :49:57. | |
follows. Jeremy Corbyn, 313,000... APPLAUSE | :49:58. | :50:07. | |
Owen Smith, 193,000 229. -- 193,229. Conference, this | :50:08. | :50:23. | |
represents the percentage of votes cast as follows. Jeremy Corbyn, | :50:24. | :50:28. | |
61.8%. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | :50:29. | :50:40. | |
Owen Smith, 38.2%. APPLAUSE | :50:41. | :50:49. | |
Conference, on these screens is also shown the breakdown of votes cast | :50:50. | :50:53. | |
for each candidate by members, affiliate supporters and registered | :50:54. | :50:59. | |
supporters. I am delighted to declare Jeremy | :51:00. | :51:02. | |
Corbyn elected as leader of the Labour Party. Please, Jeremy. | :51:03. | :51:05. | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE VICTORIA: DELIGHTED JEREMY CORBYN, | :51:06. | :51:26. | |
HAVING INCREASED HIS MANDATE AND LAST YEAR, handing over, Paddy | :51:27. | :51:32. | |
Lillis, we are expecting Mr Corbyn to say a few words. | :51:33. | :51:35. | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Paddy, thank you very much for the | :51:36. | :51:54. | |
announcement you have just made, thank you all for being here today. | :51:55. | :51:59. | |
I want to thank the more than 300,000 supporters who have given me | :52:00. | :52:05. | |
their support and trust in this Labour leadership election. I am | :52:06. | :52:08. | |
honoured to have won the votes of the majority of members, affiliated | :52:09. | :52:11. | |
supporters, and registered supporters. They have given me the | :52:12. | :52:17. | |
second mandate in a year to lead our party. | :52:18. | :52:18. | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE I want to thank all the volunteers | :52:19. | :52:32. | |
in our amazing campaign, the tens of thousands who held all over the | :52:33. | :52:37. | |
country in my campaign. I also want to thank all those volunteers that | :52:38. | :52:41. | |
worked so hard and helped in Owen Smith's campaign as well. | :52:42. | :52:43. | |
APPLAUSE Volunteers, and the work they have | :52:44. | :52:54. | |
put in, the very lifeblood of democracy, and we have both had | :52:55. | :52:58. | |
amazing sets of volunteers, so I say thank you to all of them for all | :52:59. | :53:04. | |
they did over the summer. And... I want to say thank you to Owen Smith | :53:05. | :53:09. | |
as well. Owen, we have added interesting some of debate all over | :53:10. | :53:13. | |
the country, thank you very much for all of that, for the good | :53:14. | :53:15. | |
discussions and good-humoured debate we have had, which no doubt we will | :53:16. | :53:20. | |
continue, because we are part of the same Labour family, and that is how | :53:21. | :53:28. | |
it is always going to be. That is how it is always going to be. Thank | :53:29. | :53:32. | |
you. And it has been an amazing summer, we have had good weather, of | :53:33. | :53:36. | |
course, and we have had events and rallies, hosting is debates all over | :53:37. | :53:41. | |
the place, but it has been about our Labour family facing the future of | :53:42. | :53:44. | |
how we do things together in the future. I will do everything I can | :53:45. | :53:52. | |
to repay the trust and the support, to bring our party together, to make | :53:53. | :53:58. | |
it an engine of progress for our country, and the people that depend | :53:59. | :54:03. | |
on the Labour Party to protect their interests and wind power to deliver | :54:04. | :54:08. | |
real change in this country. -- win power. | :54:09. | :54:14. | |
Elections are passionate and often partisan affairs, things are | :54:15. | :54:20. | |
sometimes said in the heat of debate, on all sides, which we | :54:21. | :54:24. | |
sometimes later come to regret. But always remember, in our party, we | :54:25. | :54:28. | |
have much more in common than that which divides us. As far as I am | :54:29. | :54:34. | |
concerned... As far as I am concerned, let's wipe that slate | :54:35. | :54:37. | |
clean from today and get on with the work we've got to do as a party | :54:38. | :54:38. | |
together! We are proud, as a party, that we | :54:39. | :54:56. | |
are not afraid to discuss openly, to debate, and to disagree. That is | :54:57. | :55:01. | |
essential for a party that wants to change people's lives for the | :55:02. | :55:05. | |
better, that isn't prepared to accept things as they are. It's also | :55:06. | :55:13. | |
an essential part of what has trawled over half of million people | :55:14. | :55:19. | |
into membership of what is now the largest political party anywhere in | :55:20. | :55:30. | |
Western Europe. We have almost tripled our membership since last | :55:31. | :55:34. | |
spring. Those new members are part of a nationwide movement who can now | :55:35. | :55:39. | |
take our message into every community in the country, to win | :55:40. | :55:43. | |
support for the election of a Labour government. Our party has a duty of | :55:44. | :55:48. | |
care to our members. That means intervening to stop personal abuse, | :55:49. | :55:54. | |
and also abiding by the principles of natural justice in the way that | :55:55. | :56:00. | |
we handle it. Politics is demeaned and corroded by intimidation and | :56:01. | :56:04. | |
abuse, it is not my way, and it is not the Labour away and never will | :56:05. | :56:06. | |
be. APPLAUSE | :56:07. | :56:16. | |
Now, friends, is the time for all of us to focus every ounce of our | :56:17. | :56:23. | |
energy on exposing and defeating the Tories, and the damage they are | :56:24. | :56:28. | |
doing to our country. Theresa May's government isn't a new government, | :56:29. | :56:30. | |
it is David Cameron's government with a new hard right edge | :56:31. | :56:36. | |
repackaged with progressive slogans. But threatening... But threatening | :56:37. | :56:42. | |
to take the country backwards, and dithering as we face the historic | :56:43. | :56:47. | |
challenges of Brexit, so if you believe that education is better | :56:48. | :56:53. | |
than segregation, that we need an NHS that isn't threatened with | :56:54. | :56:58. | |
breakdown and loaded with debt, that older people deserve dignity and the | :56:59. | :57:03. | |
care they need in their own home, that we have a duty as a country to | :57:04. | :57:08. | |
refugees and promote peace rather than conflict, if, like me, you | :57:09. | :57:15. | |
believe it is a scandal that here in Britain, the sixth largest economy | :57:16. | :57:19. | |
in the world, four million children are in poverty, 6 million workers | :57:20. | :57:25. | |
are paid less than the living wage, and if like me you believe we can do | :57:26. | :57:30. | |
things far better, then help us build support for a genuine | :57:31. | :57:34. | |
alternative that will invest in our future, a more prosperous future in | :57:35. | :57:39. | |
which the wealth we all create is shared more equally. | :57:40. | :57:43. | |
APPLAUSE Together, arguing for the real | :57:44. | :57:58. | |
change this country needs, I have no doubt that this party can win the | :57:59. | :58:02. | |
next election, whenever the Prime Minister decides to call it, and | :58:03. | :58:06. | |
form the next government. To do that, we need to work together. This | :58:07. | :58:11. | |
time next week, we are all going to hit the streets, united as a party. | :58:12. | :58:16. | |
I am calling on Labour Party members all over the country to join us in a | :58:17. | :58:22. | |
national campaign for inclusive education for all next Saturday. | :58:23. | :58:25. | |
APPLAUSE The Tories' plans for grabs cool | :58:26. | :58:39. | |
segregation of our children exposed their divisive and damaging agenda | :58:40. | :58:47. | |
for our country. -- grammar school segregation. My responsibility to | :58:48. | :58:51. | |
this party is to unite, in conference at this week in the | :58:52. | :58:55. | |
wonderful city of Liverpool, in Parliament, and in every community | :58:56. | :58:58. | |
around the country. But it is also the responsibility of the whole | :58:59. | :59:02. | |
party, member is Parliament, councillors, party members, and our | :59:03. | :59:05. | |
wonderful supporters across the country, to work together and | :59:06. | :59:08. | |
respect the democratic choice that has been made. -- Members of | :59:09. | :59:10. | |
Parliament. Labour is a party brimming full of | :59:11. | :59:25. | |
ideas, of talent, of creativity, and so is this country. Unleashing that | :59:26. | :59:31. | |
potential is the job of all of us. Let us work together for real change | :59:32. | :59:37. | |
in Britain. Thank you very much! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | :59:38. | :59:50. | |
STUDIO: Jeremy Corbyn applauding those who applaud him. Dave Margaret | :59:51. | :00:01. | |
Beckett. Thumbs up to the crowd. He is getting a standing ovation. | :00:02. | :00:05. | |
Jeremy Corbyn re-elected as Labour leader. The second time he has won | :00:06. | :00:10. | |
this contest it just over 12 months, this time he increased his mandate, | :00:11. | :00:17. | |
receiving 61.8% of the vote, last year he received just under 60% of | :00:18. | :00:22. | |
the vote. We talked about the Labour family, he made a real point of | :00:23. | :00:26. | |
saying that he and his challenger, Owen Smith, were members of the | :00:27. | :00:35. | |
Labour family. He said Labour was an engine of progress and that they | :00:36. | :00:38. | |
will win power to deliver real change in this country. He made a | :00:39. | :00:42. | |
point that he said that during contests, heated things are said | :00:43. | :00:47. | |
both sides that we might regret, but we have much more in common than | :00:48. | :00:51. | |
that divides us. Norman, where you and who are you with? | :00:52. | :00:55. | |
I'm just outside the conference hall where people are streaming out. | :00:56. | :00:58. | |
Let's see if I can get an immediate reaction. What do you think about Mr | :00:59. | :01:04. | |
Corbyn's victory, are you pleased? Very silent. What you make of Mr | :01:05. | :01:10. | |
Corbyn's victory? Very disappointed. What do you make of it? My name is | :01:11. | :01:17. | |
Louise Haigh on, the MP3 Sheffield Heeley. I was backing Owen, | :01:18. | :01:23. | |
disappointed that he did not win, but congratulations to Jeremy. But | :01:24. | :01:27. | |
from the polling it reveals that the movement is still divided, Jeremy | :01:28. | :01:31. | |
failed to win over the long standard members, Owen failed to win over the | :01:32. | :01:38. | |
newer members. Mr Corbyn did best with the so-called registered | :01:39. | :01:41. | |
supporters. There has been huge controversy over these people who | :01:42. | :01:47. | |
have paid ?25. How much did this influence the vote, people being | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
energised, paying the ?25 signing up? He had an overwhelming majority, | :01:52. | :01:58. | |
just as he did last year. I did not support registered supporters when | :01:59. | :02:01. | |
Ed Miliband brought them in, I don't support them now and I don't think | :02:02. | :02:04. | |
that they should have a role, but he also had a majority among newer | :02:05. | :02:09. | |
members, so I don't think we can demean his victory. Again and again | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
he said in his victory speech that we all have a responsibility to | :02:15. | :02:17. | |
unite. The question is whether people like you in the PLP will | :02:18. | :02:21. | |
unite behind him and willingly and constructively serve? I remain on | :02:22. | :02:27. | |
the front bench, I am still a Shadow Minister and will be if he wants me | :02:28. | :02:31. | |
to stay there. I said before I would get back to whether what elected. | :02:32. | :02:36. | |
Jeremy is right, we all have a responsibility to unite the party. | :02:37. | :02:40. | |
We need to see action from him, I want to see him back and elected | :02:41. | :02:47. | |
Shadow Cabinet. We have to stop any talk about revenge all | :02:48. | :02:49. | |
vindictiveness against those who did not support him this time, actions | :02:50. | :02:54. | |
will speak louder than words, we have heard a lot of that over the | :02:55. | :02:58. | |
summer. The time for talking is over, we need to see confidence from | :02:59. | :03:06. | |
both sides. Back to you, Victoria. I will speak to the stress MP Chuka | :03:07. | :03:13. | |
Umunna, who left Jeremy Corbyn's team and supported the no-confidence | :03:14. | :03:18. | |
motion -- the stratum MP. How do you react? It was decisive, the | :03:19. | :03:25. | |
leadership has been settled, we had to move forward. I absolutely agree | :03:26. | :03:30. | |
with Jeremy Corbyn that we need to look outward, facing forward to the | :03:31. | :03:34. | |
public, with a view of winning a general election. And we have to | :03:35. | :03:39. | |
unified. Unity will not come about through demand, through threat, | :03:40. | :03:44. | |
through the online thuggery that we have seen, which is why I am pleased | :03:45. | :03:48. | |
to hear his comments about an end an online abuse that we have seen. In | :03:49. | :03:56. | |
the end, unity comes about through talking, understanding, dialogue, | :03:57. | :04:00. | |
solidarity. When you hear this talk of deselection of Labour MPs, good, | :04:01. | :04:06. | |
hard-working, popular Labour MPs, that is completely | :04:07. | :04:08. | |
counter-productive. Jeremy has been clear that he does not need to | :04:09. | :04:13. | |
change rules about the way Parliamentary candidates are | :04:14. | :04:15. | |
selected, he should be clear that that is the end of the matter and | :04:16. | :04:20. | |
the only talk about the selection should be of Conservative MPs at the | :04:21. | :04:26. | |
next general election. The immediate task we have in uniting the party is | :04:27. | :04:29. | |
to reconcile the mandates that has been repeated today similar to the | :04:30. | :04:34. | |
last one that Jeremy got from the membership, reconciling that with a | :04:35. | :04:37. | |
mandate that Labour MPs elected under a different leader have from | :04:38. | :04:43. | |
9.3 million Labour voters. The reintroduction of Shadow Cabinet | :04:44. | :04:46. | |
elections, as Louise Haigh and just said, would certainly be a vehicle | :04:47. | :04:50. | |
through which that could be achieved. Jeremy himself opposed the | :04:51. | :04:54. | |
abolition of Shadow Cabinet elections in the first instance | :04:55. | :04:58. | |
under Ed Miliband. I think it would be good to bring that back. Beyond | :04:59. | :05:04. | |
that, we have to now really deal with some of our weaknesses, some of | :05:05. | :05:09. | |
the issues on which we know we are struggling to get the trust of the | :05:10. | :05:14. | |
people, in particular immigration. I was flabbergasted that, frankly, | :05:15. | :05:18. | |
immigration was not more of the debate in the leadership contest | :05:19. | :05:22. | |
given that about a third of Labour voters took a different view to our | :05:23. | :05:26. | |
official position on staying in the EU, principally on immigration. We | :05:27. | :05:30. | |
have to find a resolution consistent with our values, that resonate with | :05:31. | :05:36. | |
lots of our people. We know from John Curtice, who came closest to | :05:37. | :05:39. | |
predicting the general election result last year, that our economic | :05:40. | :05:44. | |
competence was one of those issues. Those are the two big issues with a | :05:45. | :05:48. | |
general election in mind. The most immediate task, of course, is making | :05:49. | :05:53. | |
sure that we secure the most progressive Brexit deal possible. | :05:54. | :05:57. | |
That is a really massive task for every Labour MP, on the front bench | :05:58. | :06:01. | |
or the backbench. You didn't have confidence in your | :06:02. | :06:05. | |
leader earlier this year, do you have confidence in him now? | :06:06. | :06:09. | |
I think we all have to come together. You have around 40% of the | :06:10. | :06:17. | |
electorate in this contest you have also said they have had concerns | :06:18. | :06:21. | |
about the leadership. But we have had the result now, this has drawn a | :06:22. | :06:27. | |
line, if you like, and we have to or wit. Different people say, I am a | :06:28. | :06:33. | |
Momentum supporter, I am a Labour person and I want the Labour Party, | :06:34. | :06:37. | |
whoever the leader is, to do well. Of course you do, but how... Getting | :06:38. | :06:43. | |
into Government is how you make your value is real. But how would you say | :06:44. | :06:47. | |
with a straight face to the wider electorate, bowled for this man, he | :06:48. | :06:51. | |
will be your next Prime Minister and will be good at it? We have elected | :06:52. | :06:57. | |
leader. He is our candidate to be Prime Minister. That is what we have | :06:58. | :07:02. | |
said through this result. You can't complain about the rules after they | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
have been run and you get a result. We have resulted had to move | :07:08. | :07:11. | |
forward. If we continue having this debate every week, how will we move | :07:12. | :07:16. | |
forward? I want to see our values implemented in office, I want to see | :07:17. | :07:21. | |
us in Government. This is the test. The challenge to the leadership. We | :07:22. | :07:26. | |
had to get Labour into Government. It is nonsense to suggest that | :07:27. | :07:29. | |
somehow we were doing well in the polls before the Brexit vote and the | :07:30. | :07:33. | |
vote of no-confidence, there have been over 80 different polls the | :07:34. | :07:38. | |
change in leadership last year and we have been trailing in every | :07:39. | :07:41. | |
single one, in almost every single one. We may well be the biggest | :07:42. | :07:45. | |
party in Europe right now, numerically, in terms of supporters | :07:46. | :07:49. | |
and members, but we are trailing in the polls and have been for a long | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
time. We need to turn that around to get into Government, sort out the | :07:54. | :07:57. | |
NHS, have the education campaign implemented that Jeremy talked | :07:58. | :08:01. | |
about. We can't do any of these things unless we get into | :08:02. | :08:06. | |
Government. Final thoughts, an appeal from you to call off the dogs | :08:07. | :08:10. | |
when it comes to threatening deselection of Modra 's MPs, a call | :08:11. | :08:15. | |
for Shadow Cabinet elections. You would serve in Jeremy Corbyn's top | :08:16. | :08:20. | |
team? -- it deselection of moderate MPs. I left by mutual decision, | :08:21. | :08:26. | |
Jeremy did not want me to stand in the Shadow Cabinet. I am standing to | :08:27. | :08:30. | |
be chair of the Holah let -- Home Affairs Select Committee, which I am | :08:31. | :08:33. | |
a member of. If people want to go back to serve, that is a good thing | :08:34. | :08:37. | |
and I will support them. That being on the front bench is not the only | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
way of serving. Look at Margaret Hodge on the Public Accounts | :08:42. | :08:45. | |
Committee, holding to account those multinational companies and their | :08:46. | :08:53. | |
failure to pay tax, and the work done by Tom Watson, which I think | :08:54. | :08:56. | |
was a boost to his deputy leadership campaign, in calling for more | :08:57. | :08:58. | |
regulation of newspapers and the way they operate. He did that on a | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
select committee. You can advance Labour in parliament in different | :09:03. | :09:07. | |
ways. All the pieces of the jigsaw, the Shadow Cabinet, select | :09:08. | :09:11. | |
committees, backbench MPs, running campaigns, they are vital to | :09:12. | :09:16. | |
strengthening our cause to support social justice. Thank you, Chuka | :09:17. | :09:25. | |
Umunna, the Labour MP for Streatham. It sounds like he would rather chair | :09:26. | :09:28. | |
the Home Affairs Select Committee than return to the top team of | :09:29. | :09:33. | |
Jeremy Corbyn. Delegates, Members End Labour supporters are streaming | :09:34. | :09:36. | |
out behind me. Some looking absolutely delighted, some less so. | :09:37. | :09:46. | |
We will talk to some in a moment, but let's speak to Vicki Young at | :09:47. | :09:51. | |
the grassroots Festival/ meeting of Momentum, the organisation -- | :09:52. | :09:56. | |
organisation set up to support Jeremy Corbyn. There is a carnival | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
atmosphere, at delight comic huge cheers from the people here. This is | :10:02. | :10:07. | |
a four-day event which they runs alongside the Labour Party | :10:08. | :10:11. | |
conference. -- which they say runs alongside. Many expected the result | :10:12. | :10:16. | |
and felt the contest was a waste of time and resources. What they wanted | :10:17. | :10:20. | |
the party to come together and support and back Jeremy Corbyn. Many | :10:21. | :10:25. | |
feel he was not given a fair hearing or a real chance when he was elected | :10:26. | :10:29. | |
for the first time. Let's speak to some people here, what is your | :10:30. | :10:34. | |
reaction? Thrilled that Jeremy has won and beyond excited to go back to | :10:35. | :10:48. | |
my community, I'm from Leeds, and to start for real social change with | :10:49. | :10:51. | |
the Labour Party members. What is your message to MPs? We have more in | :10:52. | :10:54. | |
common than that divides us. Jeremy is a strong leader who can win in | :10:55. | :10:57. | |
2020 and MP should get behind him and the membership. This Momentum | :10:58. | :11:03. | |
grouping, what is the excitement been for the grassroots? It has been | :11:04. | :11:07. | |
amazing with Momentum to get involved with people from all walks | :11:08. | :11:13. | |
of life in leaps. Old people, young people, people new to politics, | :11:14. | :11:17. | |
people who have been in politics for decades. Nudges the same old people, | :11:18. | :11:22. | |
the same old catchphrases, new, exciting ideas. -- not just the same | :11:23. | :11:28. | |
old people. What is Jeremy Corbyn's appeal? A group he talks the sort of | :11:29. | :11:30. | |
politics I have always felt in my life, but it has never | :11:31. | :11:47. | |
been in the media and somebody is at last saying what I felt for a long | :11:48. | :11:49. | |
time around wall, refugees, education and health. I think it is | :11:50. | :11:52. | |
fantastic to have this opportunity to change things. We can get elected | :11:53. | :11:55. | |
if we get the membership United. I think it is exciting. That is the | :11:56. | :11:58. | |
big if, it is whether the party can come together and be on the same | :11:59. | :12:02. | |
side. Do you think that is possible after the year we have had? I think | :12:03. | :12:08. | |
with over 500,000 members, anything is possible, and they think the MPs | :12:09. | :12:11. | |
need to listen to the membership and take note and fight against the | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
Tories instead of within the party, I am sure they can do that. What do | :12:16. | :12:21. | |
you say to those who say that Corbyn's appeal does not go | :12:22. | :12:35. | |
beyond thousand grassroots members, if you're going to win a general | :12:36. | :12:39. | |
election you have to vote to people who would have voted Tory in the | :12:40. | :12:42. | |
past. People I speak to at work are aware that something is changing. We | :12:43. | :12:44. | |
don't want people in suits telling us lies, making decisions that will | :12:45. | :12:47. | |
benefit them and their peers, the millionaires. I think the people in | :12:48. | :12:49. | |
the Cabinet are all millionaires. We want people making decisions to | :12:50. | :12:53. | |
understand what it is like to be an ordinary person. I think Jeremy | :12:54. | :12:56. | |
Corbyn can do that in a way that no other politician has for a long | :12:57. | :13:00. | |
time. I think he will and does connect with an awful lot of | :13:01. | :13:04. | |
ordinary people, who aren't politically engaged. He is talking | :13:05. | :13:10. | |
sense. That is what we are hearing, anyway. What is your reaction to the | :13:11. | :13:16. | |
real action? Obviously very pleased that Jeremy has won again with an | :13:17. | :13:21. | |
even bigger mandate than last year. The only way is forward. What is | :13:22. | :13:27. | |
your message to Labour MPs who, let's face it, have not backed him | :13:28. | :13:30. | |
up and do not think he leads the party in the right direction? The | :13:31. | :13:36. | |
membership has spoken, it is time to get behind, Unite, make Labour a | :13:37. | :13:40. | |
winning force in politics again. Your reaction? I am delighted. I | :13:41. | :13:48. | |
could not be more delighted. I am very pleased that Jeremy has been | :13:49. | :13:54. | |
re-elected. I think that he is a return to proper Labour Party values | :13:55. | :13:58. | |
and principles. We were talking on the train on the way over from | :13:59. | :14:02. | |
Bradford about what Labour Party values are, one of them is decency, | :14:03. | :14:06. | |
I don't think you could find a more decent person anywhere. He will be a | :14:07. | :14:10. | |
brilliant leader. The Parliamentary Labour Party must get behind him | :14:11. | :14:15. | |
now. Thank you. The message, loud and clear, from the people here, MPs | :14:16. | :14:20. | |
need to get behind Jeremy Corbyn, they feel it is the divisions in the | :14:21. | :14:24. | |
Labour Party that have been the problem. They don't think the | :14:25. | :14:27. | |
problem is Jeremy Corbyn, the message is to MPs who need to get | :14:28. | :14:32. | |
behind him and campaign. Thank you very much, let's try to | :14:33. | :14:42. | |
grab some of the delegates just leaving the conference hall. Hello, | :14:43. | :14:45. | |
what did you think when you heard Corbyn had been re-elected? | :14:46. | :14:47. | |
Extremely pleased, and I hope that with the second mandate as a party | :14:48. | :14:51. | |
we will unite behind Jeremy as our leader and become the official | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
opposition, doing what we expect the opposition to do, hold the | :14:56. | :15:00. | |
Government to account and prepare ourselves for the forthcoming | :15:01. | :15:03. | |
general election, hopefully forming a Labour Government. What do you say | :15:04. | :15:09. | |
to those MPs who have been critical of Corbyn, openly and when it comes | :15:10. | :15:10. | |
to briefing members of the media? Listen to the members, they have | :15:11. | :15:21. | |
voted Jeremy again with a resounding majority, please listen to your | :15:22. | :15:24. | |
members and support Jeremy, we need to unite as a party if we are going | :15:25. | :15:29. | |
to be effective. Thank you very much, we will talk to more as they | :15:30. | :15:34. | |
exit the conference hall. We are going to talk now to a woman who | :15:35. | :15:37. | |
resigned from Jeremy Corbyn's top team back in the summer, Seema | :15:38. | :15:43. | |
Malhotra was shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury, hello to you. What | :15:44. | :15:47. | |
do think of the result? Well, it is a time for us to come together, not | :15:48. | :15:52. | |
an unexpected result, and it has been a bruising summer for all | :15:53. | :15:57. | |
sides, as we had the conversation, a top conversation, about what it will | :15:58. | :16:01. | |
take for us to win in the Labour Party. Now people will say we want | :16:02. | :16:05. | |
time to be able to come together, I think it is absolutely vital that, | :16:06. | :16:11. | |
whichever way people campaigned all voted, we stay in the Labour Party, | :16:12. | :16:14. | |
and that we focus on what we need to do to provide the opposition to | :16:15. | :16:18. | |
Theresa May and focus on how we win the next election. I think at this | :16:19. | :16:22. | |
time we can save up with some money challenges coming upstream, whether | :16:23. | :16:28. | |
welfare and benefit cuts, the challengers after Brexit, that we | :16:29. | :16:32. | |
say we have got the answers more in the Labour Party, we have to be | :16:33. | :16:35. | |
voicing those is a strong opposition. What adjective would you | :16:36. | :16:39. | |
use to describe how you felt when you heard Jeremy Corbyn's name read | :16:40. | :16:46. | |
out? I think it was, you know, probably expected. Your emotion was, | :16:47. | :16:51. | |
that was expected? We have got to come together, my emotion was, there | :16:52. | :16:55. | |
are so much division in the country, there has been a divisive and | :16:56. | :16:59. | |
bruising period in the Labour Party, it has been unpleasant for | :17:00. | :17:02. | |
everybody, and I think people are now saying, when I talk to members | :17:03. | :17:06. | |
and constituents, that we won't Labour to be fighting as a strong | :17:07. | :17:10. | |
opposition. That does mean we have to find a way of addressing the | :17:11. | :17:13. | |
issue that caused this to happen in the first place, and I think there | :17:14. | :17:18. | |
has to be something on both sides, it is an important stage we are at, | :17:19. | :17:23. | |
and we have to see the partnership. Be people like you who resigned from | :17:24. | :17:33. | |
the top team, is there an irony that this has made Mr Corbyn stronger? We | :17:34. | :17:38. | |
do want to see the Labour Party go forward together, I think whichever | :17:39. | :17:41. | |
side you are on, I have talked to members on both sides who say that | :17:42. | :17:46. | |
there were different reasons why they chose either Jeremy or Eoin in | :17:47. | :17:51. | |
this election, but we are united in wanting to fight for the Labour | :17:52. | :17:54. | |
Party to be in power, I think that is where we are, and I believe where | :17:55. | :17:58. | |
we have to play a part is, whichever way we can play that part, to be | :17:59. | :18:02. | |
focused on making sure the Labour Party is in the strongest position, | :18:03. | :18:06. | |
addressing the issues it needs to to make sure that it can be in the | :18:07. | :18:09. | |
stronger position to win government again. Would you go back to the top | :18:10. | :18:14. | |
team? I am prepared to have an open conversation about what role I play, | :18:15. | :18:19. | |
front bench or backbench. I am not being presumptive about whether it | :18:20. | :18:23. | |
is going back or not, I do not think you can go back, but you do go | :18:24. | :18:27. | |
forward... John McDonnell has invited people like yourself or a | :18:28. | :18:34. | |
cup of tea and a chat, will you be taking him up on that? That is jewel | :18:35. | :18:37. | |
crossed the Labour Party, and between the different sites, we want | :18:38. | :18:40. | |
to come together, it is about partnership, addressing the issues, | :18:41. | :18:43. | |
making sure we stay in the Labour Party and stay together. Norman is | :18:44. | :18:48. | |
outside the conference all here in Liverpool. | :18:49. | :18:53. | |
Hey, Vic, I have got one man who should be happy, James Schneider, | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
the national organiser of Momentum, key supporters of Jeremy Corbyn, a | :18:58. | :19:01. | |
big win, yes, but not as big as some thought. No, fantastic, larger | :19:02. | :19:07. | |
mandate than last year and that is after people were excluded from | :19:08. | :19:11. | |
voting, the new members who signed up after January. There is no way | :19:12. | :19:14. | |
you can spin it other than a fantastic result, the margins in all | :19:15. | :19:17. | |
three categories, we are really pleased. Doesn't it raise new | :19:18. | :19:23. | |
controversy over the registered supporters, people who paid to vote | :19:24. | :19:26. | |
in the contest? That is where he has done best by quite a long way. | :19:27. | :19:33. | |
YouGov 58% of the vote in full party members, 60% in affiliate so bold as | :19:34. | :19:37. | |
to trade unions, 69% in the registered supporters. 50,000 of | :19:38. | :19:42. | |
those registered supporters were full party members who were denied a | :19:43. | :19:49. | |
vote. The idea that he has only won because of Johnny come lately is | :19:50. | :19:52. | |
completely untrue. We are listening to a Momentum rally at the moment, | :19:53. | :19:59. | |
the appeals for unity and again and again, that has to be more than | :20:00. | :20:02. | |
words, so what does Mr Corbyn have to do to get his MPs on board? He | :20:03. | :20:08. | |
has got to do what he is doing, bring the party together, but it | :20:09. | :20:14. | |
goes both ways. What we need, I think, is MPs to recognise that the | :20:15. | :20:18. | |
direction that the members want to take the party, and actually come | :20:19. | :20:21. | |
across this summer and the leadership debate, there has been a | :20:22. | :20:24. | |
whole load of agreement on big areas of policy where we can go, and it is | :20:25. | :20:29. | |
a big base to unite around. What you say to the Labour MPs who are scared | :20:30. | :20:34. | |
witless by Momentum, who see it as a front for getting rid of mainstream | :20:35. | :20:41. | |
centrist Labour talk to us, that is not the case, we are not campaigning | :20:42. | :20:47. | |
for deselection. We are campaigning to make the party more inclusive, we | :20:48. | :20:53. | |
are part of the Labour movement, we want to help Labour win elections. | :20:54. | :20:57. | |
If you have heard rumours about horrible things we do, they are not | :20:58. | :21:02. | |
the case, come and talk to us. An invitation to the Labour MPs who | :21:03. | :21:06. | |
have any doubts, pick up the phone, give him a call, see if your fears | :21:07. | :21:12. | |
are allayed. Back to you, Vic. Let's talk to various members who | :21:13. | :21:16. | |
have just come out of the conference hall, Michelle, you voted for Mr | :21:17. | :21:20. | |
Corbyn, what are you thinking right now? I am delighted, I think the | :21:21. | :21:25. | |
right person won, it is a great result today, and I think it is a | :21:26. | :21:28. | |
great chance for the party to unite and move forward. James Aspinall, | :21:29. | :21:33. | |
you were supporting a Owen Smith, how you feeling right now? I am just | :21:34. | :21:39. | |
pleased that this nightmare is over, as Michelle has said, this is the | :21:40. | :21:44. | |
opportunity now for us to move forward and unite. There are things | :21:45. | :21:48. | |
bigger than this, whether Jeremy Corbyn or Owen Smith, and we have to | :21:49. | :21:55. | |
unite now together to face the electorate and take on the Tories, | :21:56. | :22:01. | |
that is our prime function in life. We spoke earlier, you were a little | :22:02. | :22:05. | |
emotional, you said, when you are knocking on the doors, people were | :22:06. | :22:08. | |
saying, I cannot vote for you with Jeremy Corbyn as leader. It is true, | :22:09. | :22:13. | |
people do say that, and there are people who say they will vote for | :22:14. | :22:17. | |
him, but that is democracy, that is the way the British people are. We | :22:18. | :22:23. | |
have to respect that and come up with a set of policies that appeals | :22:24. | :22:28. | |
to everybody, not just certain sections. Joseph, hello, you dressed | :22:29. | :22:32. | |
up for the occasion, looking magnificent, if you don't mind me | :22:33. | :22:36. | |
saying so! What do you think of the result? God just fantastic, I am | :22:37. | :22:41. | |
very, very pleased, the most important thing is we have to come | :22:42. | :22:45. | |
together and put a big fights towards the Tories, that is the most | :22:46. | :22:50. | |
important thing. We have been fighting, but without unity there | :22:51. | :22:54. | |
will be no success, so I will appeal to the PLP members to back Corbyn, | :22:55. | :23:01. | |
come back and work together so that we can win the 2020 election. Mick, | :23:02. | :23:08. | |
what would you say, as a member, to Labour MPs who have been critical of | :23:09. | :23:13. | |
Mr Corbyn the past few months? We have four years before we have to | :23:14. | :23:17. | |
face an election. I cannot hear you, speak up. We have got four more | :23:18. | :23:22. | |
years before we have to face an election, and we can do a lot more. | :23:23. | :23:26. | |
Basically, people haven't seen anything yet. Full OK. Over this | :23:27. | :23:34. | |
last year, Corbyn has managed to induce many people, including me, | :23:35. | :23:39. | |
and I think that is going to take this right through to the next | :23:40. | :23:46. | |
election. What is it about team -- Mr Corbyn that appeals to you, Mick? | :23:47. | :23:53. | |
Sincerity, no spin, he is not media savvy, which is a bit of a problem | :23:54. | :23:56. | |
considering where we are at the moment, but he means what he says, | :23:57. | :24:00. | |
he hasn't changed is the use for the last 30 years, which is a good | :24:01. | :24:07. | |
thing. -- he hasn't changed his views. Most of the recent policies | :24:08. | :24:10. | |
that the new contender was pushing forward at the same as he has | :24:11. | :24:15. | |
himself. You wanted Owen Smith to win, what do you say now? We have | :24:16. | :24:20. | |
got to be hopeful. It is right to say that Owen Smith believes in a | :24:21. | :24:24. | |
lot of things that Jeremy believes in, but the reason a lot of people | :24:25. | :24:27. | |
opposed is because of the strategy, the weight we put forward what we | :24:28. | :24:36. | |
believed in, so I think we can be hopeful this that maybe we will look | :24:37. | :24:45. | |
being more confident, cooperating more, building up, uniting a bit | :24:46. | :24:50. | |
more, to be a bit more of an effective opposition. Do you think | :24:51. | :24:55. | |
that is realistic, Michelle, all the people within the PLP, 172 MPs who | :24:56. | :25:00. | |
voted in that no confidence motion against their leader? All that | :25:01. | :25:07. | |
anxiety about Mr Corbyn's competence, as they put it, will it | :25:08. | :25:11. | |
suddenly disappear because he has been re-elected? I think there needs | :25:12. | :25:16. | |
to be a lot of conversations had, as Jeremy just said, he is prepared to | :25:17. | :25:20. | |
wipe the slate clean. There has been a lot of bad things said which | :25:21. | :25:23. | |
shouldn't have been said. I think, if we are going to be Cardinal in | :25:24. | :25:27. | |
the next election, that we need to all come together, and there needs | :25:28. | :25:31. | |
to be some serious conversations had about how people can work together, | :25:32. | :25:34. | |
and that is what is the most important thing. Let's hear a little | :25:35. | :25:39. | |
bit more about what Jeremy Corbyn said in his acceptance speech, his | :25:40. | :25:43. | |
thank you speech, if you like, after he was re-elected. | :25:44. | :25:50. | |
My responsibility to this party is to unite, in | :25:51. | :25:52. | |
conference at this week in the wonderful | :25:53. | :25:53. | |
city of Liverpool, in Parliament, | :25:54. | :25:55. | |
and in every community around the country. | :25:56. | :25:56. | |
But it is also the responsibility of the whole party, | :25:57. | :26:02. | |
Members of Parliament, councillors, party members, | :26:03. | :26:05. | |
and our wonderful supporters across the country, | :26:06. | :26:07. | |
to work together and respect the democratic choice | :26:08. | :26:09. | |
Labour is a party brimming full of ideas, | :26:10. | :26:19. | |
of talent, of creativity, and so is this country. | :26:20. | :26:24. | |
Unleashing that potential is the job of all of us. | :26:25. | :26:27. | |
Let us work together for real change in Britain. | :26:28. | :26:31. | |
OK, back to Norman, who is with Jeremy Corbyn. By Mike Pence by | :26:32. | :26:55. | |
much, Vic, a few stragglers coming out, Diane Abbott, your take on the | :26:56. | :27:00. | |
result? It is a very good result, given that in many ways this was a | :27:01. | :27:05. | |
nasty and bitter campaign, and last summer they threw everything except | :27:06. | :27:09. | |
the kitchen sink at Jeremy, and he still increased his share of the | :27:10. | :27:17. | |
vote. Widely used say that? Because the allegations, including | :27:18. | :27:20. | |
anti-Semitism, very hurtful, we didn't get that last time. It was a | :27:21. | :27:24. | |
hard campaign, but in the end I think the membership came out for | :27:25. | :27:28. | |
Jeremy, because they realised he hadn't been given a chance and | :27:29. | :27:33. | |
treated fairly. What do you say to those MPs who still refuse to get on | :27:34. | :27:38. | |
board, refused to join in the front bench? First of all, they have to | :27:39. | :27:43. | |
listen to their members. Many of Jeremy's most vociferous critics | :27:44. | :27:47. | |
actually have the party to nominate a Jeremy, they have to listen to | :27:48. | :27:51. | |
their members. They have to listen to Labour supporters. They wanted | :27:52. | :27:57. | |
the party to unite and take the fight to the Tories. And if they | :27:58. | :28:02. | |
don't, they should face the selection? Nobody is talking about | :28:03. | :28:13. | |
the deselection, we are not going to hold what was said in a campaign | :28:14. | :28:17. | |
against anybody, we want the party to unite. Why shouldn't local | :28:18. | :28:26. | |
parties deselect Labour MPs who have been criticising a leader who has | :28:27. | :28:29. | |
been overwhelmingly elected? Why shouldn't they get rid of those MPs? | :28:30. | :28:34. | |
Clearly, because of the boundary changes, there will have to be some | :28:35. | :28:40. | |
selections, but we don't want a purge, we don't want deselection, we | :28:41. | :28:46. | |
want to come together, that is what the party once. What evidence is | :28:47. | :28:51. | |
there that Mr Corbyn, beyond the rhetoric, is willing to put in place | :28:52. | :28:55. | |
concrete measures to reassure those Labour MPs who are doubtful about | :28:56. | :28:59. | |
him? What will he do beyond the talk? Look at what he has done, when | :29:00. | :29:03. | |
he first put the Shadow Cabinet together, he had people who were | :29:04. | :29:09. | |
Blairites and also from the left. He is willing to call on all the | :29:10. | :29:12. | |
talents, and that is what is going to do this time. Diane Abbott, thank | :29:13. | :29:19. | |
you for your time. Vic, back to you. Thank you very much, Norman, with us | :29:20. | :29:25. | |
is Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell, right-hand man to Jeremy Corbyn, | :29:26. | :29:27. | |
congratulations to you and your team. Wipe the slate clean, does | :29:28. | :29:33. | |
that mean calling off the dogs when it comes to those threats of | :29:34. | :29:37. | |
deselecting MPs who may have criticised Mr Corbyn in recent | :29:38. | :29:41. | |
months? We have never called on the dogs, we have never done that - we | :29:42. | :29:46. | |
have made it clear repeatedly that we are not in favour of mandatory | :29:47. | :29:50. | |
deselection, first of all. The boundary commission changes are | :29:51. | :29:53. | |
coming up, we will fight them in Parliament and in the courts, | :29:54. | :29:57. | |
because they are so grotesquely unfair. If they do go through, the | :29:58. | :30:02. | |
rules that have always applied on the boundary commission changes will | :30:03. | :30:06. | |
apply then, which is, if there is a sitting MP, they will have a right | :30:07. | :30:10. | |
to the seat, basically. We are trying to reassure people all the | :30:11. | :30:14. | |
time that all we want is unity and stability. Labour MPs who have been | :30:15. | :30:19. | |
critical have nothing to worry about? Not at all, we have said its | :30:20. | :30:23. | |
time and again, and I will repeat it now. The most important thing now is | :30:24. | :30:28. | |
not the issue of deselection, it is about what role people want to play, | :30:29. | :30:33. | |
front bench, backbench, if they do not feel they want to take a forward | :30:34. | :30:38. | |
role, maybe they can on the backbench, like Yvette Cooper on | :30:39. | :30:41. | |
refugees, brilliant, Caroline Flint and tax evasion. So there is a way | :30:42. | :30:46. | |
in which we can accommodate everyone. | :30:47. | :30:51. | |
Shadow Cabinet elections, yes? There will be a wider discussion. The key | :30:52. | :30:58. | |
thing around issues of democratic change in the party, we had to make | :30:59. | :31:02. | |
sure we do it by consensus, and if we had to take time to do it, let's | :31:03. | :31:08. | |
do it properly. Western with changes in the Constitution of the Labour | :31:09. | :31:12. | |
Party, there was a full constitution toe consultation. I think people | :31:13. | :31:17. | |
want it and quickly rather than delaying it. Mr Corbyn could have | :31:18. | :31:21. | |
bothered that in his acceptance speech. He did not want any | :31:22. | :31:25. | |
accusations that he is bouncing anyone into any decisions at the | :31:26. | :31:29. | |
moment. If he offered that, some people might oppose that and think | :31:30. | :31:32. | |
their views are not being listened to all pre-empted. Does he see the | :31:33. | :31:39. | |
idea of Shadow Cabinet elections, whether across-the-board or a third | :31:40. | :31:46. | |
are elected by backbench MPs, as a way of gripping his wings, or not? I | :31:47. | :31:52. | |
don't think so. I think the issue is what is the most appropriate way of | :31:53. | :31:57. | |
getting the right representation, is that by appointment, or by-election? | :31:58. | :32:02. | |
What sort of mandate should there be? That is at every level of the | :32:03. | :32:07. | |
party, in terms of Shadow Cabinet and the NEC. Now you have had the | :32:08. | :32:12. | |
second conference within just over 12 months, are you pleased, because | :32:13. | :32:20. | |
it has strengthened Mr Corbyn's power. I did not wanted, I thought | :32:21. | :32:23. | |
was a distraction. But now you know the mandate is bigger than a year | :32:24. | :32:27. | |
ago... But it destructed us for about three months when we should be | :32:28. | :32:32. | |
in the face of the Tories as an opposition -- but it distracted us. | :32:33. | :32:37. | |
Jeremy has an increased mandate. I think the appeal for unity will | :32:38. | :32:41. | |
work. Some of the issues which came out of the debate on policy, really | :32:42. | :32:48. | |
no difference. The most common expression used by Owen was, I agree | :32:49. | :32:53. | |
with Jeremy, which is good. Let's learn from criticism. We say to | :32:54. | :33:00. | |
people, come and talk to us. Has any Labour MP said, I want to chat with | :33:01. | :33:06. | |
you? Yes. Who? I don't want to put people on the spot and they don't | :33:07. | :33:12. | |
want any division. We have to come together. Clearly, you are saying | :33:13. | :33:17. | |
MPs are coming to you privately and saying, we want to come back into | :33:18. | :33:24. | |
the fold? A number of people have said -- I want to do my best, here | :33:25. | :33:29. | |
is the policy I'm interested in, can I perform the role. Somebody like | :33:30. | :33:35. | |
Hilary Benn would be welcomed back? Yes, he is incredibly talented, we | :33:36. | :33:40. | |
have worked together for a number of years, he was a local councillor | :33:41. | :33:43. | |
just outside my constituency for many years. We have always got | :33:44. | :33:48. | |
along. Ed Miliband on Twitter, congratulations to Jeremy on his | :33:49. | :33:53. | |
victory, commiserations to Owen. Now is the time for the party to unite | :33:54. | :34:01. | |
and focus on the country. Stephen Kinnock, congratulations to Jeremy | :34:02. | :34:04. | |
Corbyn, time to unite the party and set out a vision and a gender to | :34:05. | :34:13. | |
unite the country. How can you attract Conservative and Ukip photos | :34:14. | :34:24. | |
to win an election? Jeremy said the first campaign next Saturday, which | :34:25. | :34:28. | |
they will be leafleting on the streets about, will be on the issues | :34:29. | :34:32. | |
of education segregation, that is what grammar schools. That is | :34:33. | :34:38. | |
uniting the party. If you look at housing, the one thing facing people | :34:39. | :34:42. | |
right the way across the country is being able to afford a roof over | :34:43. | :34:45. | |
their heads, having their children able to have access to the housing | :34:46. | :34:49. | |
market. All of those issues that came up in the leadership campaign | :34:50. | :34:54. | |
are election winners for us. If we unite, because people will not vote | :34:55. | :35:00. | |
for a divided party, it is a truism, if we get out there with the | :35:01. | :35:04. | |
selection vehicle we have ever had, the largest political party in | :35:05. | :35:15. | |
Europe, we will have members on virtually every street corner to act | :35:16. | :35:18. | |
as ambassadors for us and argue our case, I think there is a chance to | :35:19. | :35:21. | |
win it whenever it comes. Do you expect it earlier than 2020? I have | :35:22. | :35:24. | |
never trusted Tories anyway, but I don't trust this even more. I think | :35:25. | :35:29. | |
she will go early, if she stays in power over the next 18 months, two | :35:30. | :35:34. | |
years, the Tories will rip themselves apart on Brexit yet | :35:35. | :35:39. | |
again. What do you say to the Labour voters in heartlands, the north-east | :35:40. | :35:43. | |
of England in particular, who voted to leave the European Union? They | :35:44. | :35:48. | |
are really anxious about freedom of movement of people. You will address | :35:49. | :35:55. | |
it, in what way? It is part of the debate that we will have. The Brexit | :35:56. | :35:58. | |
vote has taken place, we have to respect that. We had to respect the | :35:59. | :36:02. | |
result of the referendum. We will look at creating a new Europe, | :36:03. | :36:07. | |
working with our European partners. They want an end to freedom of | :36:08. | :36:12. | |
movement. Let's see what the problems were, was that people | :36:13. | :36:18. | |
coming here undercutting wages, the pressure on public services? We want | :36:19. | :36:22. | |
the benefits of the old EU and to tackle some of the perceived this | :36:23. | :36:28. | |
benefits, I think we can do that. Thank you for your time, Shadow | :36:29. | :36:31. | |
Chancellor John McDonnell. The message to everybody we have spoken | :36:32. | :36:35. | |
to is that the Labour Party must unite. I think we will talk to | :36:36. | :36:43. | |
Norman now? Sorry, I beg your pardon, we will speak to Patrick | :36:44. | :36:47. | |
McLoughin, the Conservative Party Chairman. Thank you for your | :36:48. | :36:52. | |
patience, how do you react to the re-election of Jeremy Corbyn? What | :36:53. | :36:55. | |
will hang around the Labour Party as long as Jeremy Corbyn is leader is | :36:56. | :37:01. | |
that 172 of his members of Parliament don't think he is | :37:02. | :37:06. | |
competent enough to run his party. Let alone run the government. That | :37:07. | :37:11. | |
is our message, my message. The Labour Party is split, the Labour | :37:12. | :37:17. | |
Party itself says Jeremy Corbyn is not fit to lead it. Also, all the | :37:18. | :37:23. | |
former leaders of the Labour Party had said that Jeremy Corbyn is not | :37:24. | :37:27. | |
the right person to lead the party and cannot be a good Prime Minister | :37:28. | :37:34. | |
of this country. Not all of his policies are unpalatable to the | :37:35. | :37:38. | |
wider electorate. A majority support taking railways back into public | :37:39. | :37:45. | |
ownership, for example. We will have those debates over the coming months | :37:46. | :37:49. | |
and years. The simple fact about the railways is we have more people | :37:50. | :37:54. | |
using the railways now than ever, that is because of the competition | :37:55. | :37:58. | |
brought about by franchising the railway system. That may be true, | :37:59. | :38:04. | |
but the majority no support nationalisation. Mr Corbyn is | :38:05. | :38:09. | |
championing bat. It is not just about the railways, we will take | :38:10. | :38:13. | |
Jeremy Corbyn on. The point he is making, if he manages to former | :38:14. | :38:17. | |
Shadow Cabinet. In the last leadership election he said the last | :38:18. | :38:21. | |
Labour Government did not spend enough. He says he wants to stop | :38:22. | :38:27. | |
freedoms we have given to schools. We will be making those points and | :38:28. | :38:30. | |
getting on with governing the country. | :38:31. | :38:35. | |
You will have heard Mr Corbyn in his speech earlier say that he is | :38:36. | :38:40. | |
launching a campaign next week about education segregation, against your | :38:41. | :38:45. | |
policy, Theresa May's policy, of reintroducing selection for some | :38:46. | :38:50. | |
grammar schools. In our schools who have a diverse system of schools, | :38:51. | :38:56. | |
academies concentrating on sport, once concentrating on music. I think | :38:57. | :39:01. | |
it is right that we have them but concentrate on academic ability, | :39:02. | :39:05. | |
too. I welcome having up to date. When the Labour Party was in | :39:06. | :39:09. | |
Government for 30 years they allowed grammar schools to continue in | :39:10. | :39:13. | |
certain parts of the country. We saw expansions of grammar schools given | :39:14. | :39:18. | |
the go-ahead by the government. I want to see more people getting the | :39:19. | :39:25. | |
opportunity of a diverse education system so they get what best suits | :39:26. | :39:29. | |
that child. That is the most important thing when discussing the | :39:30. | :39:33. | |
education system, what is best for the pupils, what is best so they can | :39:34. | :39:39. | |
compete in a very competitive world and the environment. When will you | :39:40. | :39:45. | |
have a Brexit plan? The Prime Minister and his senior colleagues | :39:46. | :39:49. | |
are working on the Brexit plan. We will have more to say in due course. | :39:50. | :39:54. | |
When will you have it? In due course... This year, next year? The | :39:55. | :40:00. | |
Prime Minister has said that article 50 will not be triggered before the | :40:01. | :40:04. | |
end of the year, when she has more to say she will let you know. | :40:05. | :40:09. | |
Theresa May has also said she will not call an early general election, | :40:10. | :40:14. | |
will she stick with that? Yes. There are no plans at all for any early | :40:15. | :40:19. | |
general election. We have a fixed term parliament until 2020, when the | :40:20. | :40:26. | |
general election will be. Thank you very much, Patrick | :40:27. | :40:29. | |
McLoughin, chairman of the Conservative Party. Let's talk to | :40:30. | :40:34. | |
two MPs, Kate Green, chair of the Owen Smith campaign, and you still | :40:35. | :40:38. | |
had a smile on your face, and Chris Maddison, who voted for Owen Smith. | :40:39. | :40:44. | |
Hello. Why did you vote for him? I think there was a feeling within the | :40:45. | :40:48. | |
party that Jeremy's abilities had not shone through, they were rather | :40:49. | :40:53. | |
limited, and if we were going to take on the Tories, we wanted to | :40:54. | :40:56. | |
take the fight to a different level. Owen offered that, certainly when we | :40:57. | :41:01. | |
saw his performances within Parliament. What do you think now | :41:02. | :41:06. | |
you have made to Jeremy Corbyn even stronger? May be, that Jeremy has | :41:07. | :41:12. | |
helped himself. It had Theresa May on toast over her plans to bring | :41:13. | :41:18. | |
back grammar schools and secondary moderns, so he is improving his | :41:19. | :41:22. | |
performance. How do you feel about the results? It is a good victory | :41:23. | :41:28. | |
for Jeremy Corbyn, we congratulate him. We are very pleased that almost | :41:29. | :41:33. | |
200,000 people have voted for Owen, that is a big vote, bigger than the | :41:34. | :41:39. | |
three candidates who stood against Jeremy last year put together. We | :41:40. | :41:45. | |
are very anxious that Jeremy should carry forward on the speech that he | :41:46. | :41:49. | |
gave just after the result was announced, to unite the whole of the | :41:50. | :41:54. | |
party and started to take the fight to the Tories, that is what we are | :41:55. | :41:58. | |
prioritising. Do you think the onus is on Labour MPs critical of Mr | :41:59. | :42:03. | |
Corbyn to rally round, all Mr Corbyn to offer olive branches? There is a | :42:04. | :42:14. | |
genuine desire for unity. We have been scoring some really good hits | :42:15. | :42:18. | |
on the Tories, people want to build on McDonnell sites. I will hope that | :42:19. | :42:22. | |
both sides come together and we find a way forward, it is absolutely | :42:23. | :42:26. | |
possible. Will you look me in the eye and tell me that, having been | :42:27. | :42:30. | |
critical of Mr Corbyn and voting for Owen Smith, you know thing, because | :42:31. | :42:34. | |
he has been re-elected a second time, that he can win a general | :42:35. | :42:39. | |
election? I am looking you in the eye, he has improved his | :42:40. | :42:46. | |
performances in the last couple of weeks. He creamed Theresa May in | :42:47. | :42:48. | |
Prime Minister's Questions last week, she had no responses to any of | :42:49. | :42:52. | |
his questions. I think we can come together and fight? I think it is | :42:53. | :42:56. | |
entirely possible we can win the next general election. It is | :42:57. | :42:59. | |
absolutely essential that we'd unite and fight the next general election. | :43:00. | :43:04. | |
My constituents and people across the country need to see a Labour | :43:05. | :43:08. | |
Government. The leadership campaign has been about making sure we are a | :43:09. | :43:13. | |
credible party of opposition and a Government in waiting. With Jeremy | :43:14. | :43:18. | |
re-elected, that needs to be the priority. This you need to change | :43:19. | :43:22. | |
the way he performs, behaves? Include his MPs? In order to win the | :43:23. | :43:32. | |
next election? For parties to win general elections, to win any | :43:33. | :43:36. | |
elections, we had to be united, purposeful and focused. Do you think | :43:37. | :43:43. | |
Jeremy Corbyn is seen as a Prime Minister in waiting by the wider | :43:44. | :43:47. | |
electorate? First and foremost we need a united and effective | :43:48. | :43:51. | |
opposition, that is the first priority, four years out from the | :43:52. | :43:54. | |
general election if Theresa May is to be taken at her word. That builds | :43:55. | :43:59. | |
us back on the road to taking power. It is crucial we are on that road, | :44:00. | :44:03. | |
people need a Labour Government. We will not do that if the RA divided | :44:04. | :44:09. | |
party. It is incumbent on all members and the leader to work | :44:10. | :44:14. | |
together and get the message across. We have a statement from Owen Smith. | :44:15. | :44:19. | |
I would like to read, if I may. I want to congratulate Jeremy Corbyn | :44:20. | :44:23. | |
on his clear win in this leadership contest. There is no doubt that the | :44:24. | :44:26. | |
Labour Party has changed into his leadership. He has mobilised huge | :44:27. | :44:30. | |
numbers of people over last 12 months, many of whom are at | :44:31. | :44:34. | |
Conference in Liverpool, and he deserves the credit for that and by | :44:35. | :44:38. | |
winning so decisively. I am humbled by the more than 193,000 members, | :44:39. | :44:42. | |
supporters and trade union members who have put their faith in | :44:43. | :44:54. | |
me and to say a big thank you to them. It has been a privilege to | :44:55. | :44:59. | |
meet so many of you who have given so much of your lives to Labour, and | :45:00. | :45:02. | |
I promise to continue to work for what we believe in. It has been a | :45:03. | :45:05. | |
great honour for me to stand as leader and I am deeply grateful to | :45:06. | :45:07. | |
my Parliamentary colleagues for nominating me. I entered the race | :45:08. | :45:10. | |
because they did not think Jeremy was providing the leadership we | :45:11. | :45:12. | |
needed and because I think we must renew the party to win back voters' | :45:13. | :45:15. | |
trust and respect. I will respect the results, reflect carefully on it | :45:16. | :45:19. | |
and what role I might play in future to help Labour win again for the | :45:20. | :45:23. | |
British people. He made it clear he would not serve in Jeremy Corbyn's | :45:24. | :45:28. | |
Shadow Cabinet. That is interesting. The statement continues. I have no | :45:29. | :45:33. | |
time for talk of a split in the Labour that. That is also | :45:34. | :45:35. | |
interesting because he predicted that is what would happen. It is | :45:36. | :45:49. | |
Labour or nothing for me. Although today's results shows that our | :45:50. | :45:51. | |
movement remains divided, it now falls primarily to Jeremy Corbyn as | :45:52. | :45:53. | |
Labour leader to heal the divisions and unite the movement. We have to | :45:54. | :45:56. | |
turned down our dire opinion poll ratings and take down this Tory | :45:57. | :45:58. | |
Government. Jeremy has won the contest, he has to in the country | :45:59. | :46:01. | |
and will have my support. What do you make of that, chair of the Owen | :46:02. | :46:03. | |
Smith campaign? The old amateur study Labour Party | :46:04. | :46:13. | |
and leadership is that we have to get into power. -- the ultimate test | :46:14. | :46:19. | |
of. We were not on track to do that before or during this summer, and | :46:20. | :46:23. | |
now we have to concentrate all our resources and effort on making sure | :46:24. | :46:27. | |
we are on a party on track to power, and the leader of our party, Jeremy | :46:28. | :46:31. | |
Corbyn, has to spearhead of that attack. Owen Smith? And all the | :46:32. | :46:37. | |
people who have supported his campaign, and we are very proud of | :46:38. | :46:40. | |
all the people who have supported him, we need to support Jeremy in | :46:41. | :46:44. | |
that endeavour and we will, but there are different ways of serving, | :46:45. | :46:48. | |
and Owen has been saying that he needs some time to reflect what best | :46:49. | :46:52. | |
his contribution can be, but I am very clear, having worked with Owen | :46:53. | :46:57. | |
over the summer, having seen how he has been campaigned, that he has an | :46:58. | :47:01. | |
enormous amount to offer our movement, and he will offer it. | :47:02. | :47:07. | |
Thank you for your time. Let's talk to Andy Gill, in Castleford market | :47:08. | :47:13. | |
in Yorkshire. Hello, Andy. Yes, this is a solid Labour seat, | :47:14. | :47:19. | |
part of Yvette Cooper's seat, of course. I have with me Michael | :47:20. | :47:23. | |
Miller, a politics student, who campaigned for Owen Smith, a member | :47:24. | :47:32. | |
of Leeds Were meant. What is your reaction to the result? It is hugely | :47:33. | :47:36. | |
disappointing but not surprising given recent polls. Look, I | :47:37. | :47:39. | |
campaigned for Owen Smith because I think Jeremy Corbyn is unelectable. | :47:40. | :47:44. | |
But you have to respect he has been given a huge renewed mandate today. | :47:45. | :47:49. | |
We all have to respect that, including the members of the PLP, | :47:50. | :47:53. | |
and that means getting behind the leadership, even if you do not agree | :47:54. | :47:57. | |
with him, saying, we need to come together because the Conservative | :47:58. | :48:01. | |
Party is is a ruling in a really hard right away, and the official | :48:02. | :48:05. | |
opposition is needed more than ever, I think. So you will get behind | :48:06. | :48:10. | |
Jeremy Corbyn, how many Owen Smith supporters, that part of the Labour | :48:11. | :48:14. | |
Party, will do the same? I think the vast majority will, both because the | :48:15. | :48:18. | |
Labour Party has always been a broad church of opinion, and it will | :48:19. | :48:22. | |
remain like that, and there is nowhere to go. People are suggesting | :48:23. | :48:26. | |
a split might happen, but it will not, primarily because of the weak | :48:27. | :48:33. | |
options, only eight Lib Dem MPs, that is not a viable party for | :48:34. | :48:36. | |
Govan. The Labour Party is the only one that can win against the | :48:37. | :48:39. | |
Conservative Party. -- for government. What would you like to | :48:40. | :48:44. | |
see Jeremy Corbyn doing now to make Labour attractive to the wider | :48:45. | :48:49. | |
electorate to my he needs to dismiss ideas that deselection at MPs could | :48:50. | :48:56. | |
happen. This idea that we should do that should be dismissed. At the | :48:57. | :49:00. | |
same time, his media strategy needs to improve, and he needs to start | :49:01. | :49:05. | |
talking to the wider electorate. There is a lot of focus on Momentum | :49:06. | :49:09. | |
members and their ideas, but even though we have a huge electorate, | :49:10. | :49:14. | |
and that is really good, a great big membership, it doesn't translate | :49:15. | :49:20. | |
into election winning results. Richard of Momentum Leeds, do you | :49:21. | :49:23. | |
agree? Does Jeremy Corbyn need to change things to appeal to people? I | :49:24. | :49:28. | |
would not say to appeal to people, the policies we are going forward | :49:29. | :49:31. | |
with will appeal to the people that we need to appeal to. People who | :49:32. | :49:36. | |
stopped voting Labour for whatever reason. We are of the opinion that | :49:37. | :49:40. | |
what we need to do is make sure that their lives improve, and that means | :49:41. | :49:43. | |
policies that help them, going back to what the Labour Party was. But | :49:44. | :49:50. | |
can Corbyn have that wider appeal? I fundamentally believe he can, the | :49:51. | :49:54. | |
fact that he has been elected and increased the party membership to | :49:55. | :49:59. | |
over 500,000 people shows an appeal. We can look at the four past | :50:00. | :50:03. | |
by-elections the Labour Party has won, council elections from a high | :50:04. | :50:09. | |
water mark in May. Four mayoral elections, it is very clear that we | :50:10. | :50:12. | |
can appeal, and I am not so sure that the people who keep arguing | :50:13. | :50:16. | |
that we cannot actually looking at the evidence. Richard, Michael, back | :50:17. | :50:22. | |
to you, Victoria. Thank you, we have got two gentleman | :50:23. | :50:28. | |
here from two different unions, Tim Roach, general secretary of the GMB, | :50:29. | :50:32. | |
they backed Alan Smith, and Mick Whelan of Aslef, they backed Mr | :50:33. | :50:38. | |
Corbyn. Both of you, hello, this reaction from Nigel Farage on | :50:39. | :50:42. | |
Twitter, Jeremy Corbyn's re-election is great news for Ukip. Is it? I | :50:43. | :50:48. | |
think it is great news for working people, a resounding victory, I | :50:49. | :50:50. | |
think he has a mandate for the second time in less than 12 months, | :50:51. | :50:55. | |
he won in every constituency of the Labour Party, that is important. Now | :50:56. | :51:00. | |
it is time for the party to unite behind the democratically elected | :51:01. | :51:02. | |
leader and give working people of this country what they deserve. The | :51:03. | :51:06. | |
reason we have seen the rise of Ukip is because Labour has been | :51:07. | :51:12. | |
infighting and contemplating our own navel. Perhaps Labour has nothing to | :51:13. | :51:17. | |
say about managed migration, which is a worry for some working-class | :51:18. | :51:20. | |
supporters who naturally vote Labour. Clearly, we need to look at | :51:21. | :51:26. | |
the free movement of Labour, but from an economic point of view, not | :51:27. | :51:31. | |
just social. Yes, it has an impact on workers and jobs, but it is not | :51:32. | :51:35. | |
about Polish people undercutting wage rates it is for some voters. | :51:36. | :51:49. | |
But it isn't. It is! You need to look at the last Labour manifesto, | :51:50. | :51:53. | |
there were things in there about paying the right rate for the job, | :51:54. | :51:57. | |
not bringing people into undercut wages, which has gone a long way | :51:58. | :52:03. | |
to... A manifesto rejected by the wider electorate, I am talking about | :52:04. | :52:06. | |
Jeremy Corbyn having a message that resonates with Labour voters when it | :52:07. | :52:11. | |
comes to immigration. I think he does and he will, it is a work in | :52:12. | :52:17. | |
progress. Without this distraction of the leadership election, we would | :52:18. | :52:20. | |
have had these policies developed. We have a new leader of the Tory | :52:21. | :52:25. | |
party that has not been elected by the electorate, and they are in | :52:26. | :52:29. | |
difficult places over Brexit. The whole political movement, nobody is | :52:30. | :52:33. | |
expecting Brexiter happen, nobody had a fallback position, nobody | :52:34. | :52:36. | |
realised what they were going to have to do. -- nobody expected | :52:37. | :52:43. | |
Brexit to happen. We cannot understate the fact that Theresa May | :52:44. | :52:48. | |
has not been elected by the country, she was elected by less people than | :52:49. | :52:51. | |
will be at Labour Party conference this week. What we have seen with | :52:52. | :52:56. | |
the Conservatives is the Business Secretary having a go at big | :52:57. | :52:59. | |
business, the Health Secretary having a go at doctors, a Foreign | :53:00. | :53:03. | |
Secretary who does not like foreigners - that is the state this | :53:04. | :53:09. | |
country is in under the Tories. We need to unite and Jeremy Corbyn, and | :53:10. | :53:13. | |
we will be holding the Tories to account and showing what work people | :53:14. | :53:16. | |
need. You didn't backed Jeremy Corbyn in this contest, for whatever | :53:17. | :53:21. | |
reasons you didn't, and now you are saying, we are backing him, he's | :53:22. | :53:25. | |
good enough at all. That is not going to win through with some | :53:26. | :53:31. | |
people. The reality is Jeremy's words today resonate. There has been | :53:32. | :53:37. | |
an election, sometimes it got fractures, sometimes people say | :53:38. | :53:40. | |
things they don't mean, but now we come together to do the job of the | :53:41. | :53:44. | |
Labour Party, to provide a government in the future. And in the | :53:45. | :53:47. | |
interim, provide a viable opposition. What you say to the | :53:48. | :53:51. | |
Labour MPs who have opposed their boss over a number of months? | :53:52. | :53:56. | |
Something they may face deselection because of the forthcoming boundary | :53:57. | :53:59. | |
review, an opportunity for Mr Corbyn and his allies to select pro Corbyn | :54:00. | :54:05. | |
Parliamentary candidates, or they may think they will face defeat, so | :54:06. | :54:10. | |
they might as well agitate and organise? We need to change the | :54:11. | :54:14. | |
culture of the debate entirely. This isn't about whether you are for or | :54:15. | :54:18. | |
against Jeremy Corbyn, and I'm talking from the perspective of | :54:19. | :54:22. | |
trade Unions, the PLP and MPs. It is no longer about supporting Jeremy | :54:23. | :54:26. | |
Corbyn or not. It is about whether you want a Labour Party that will | :54:27. | :54:30. | |
hold the Tories to account, a Labour Party that will take us directory, | :54:31. | :54:34. | |
and start working on behalf of working people. Jeremy Corbyn has a | :54:35. | :54:39. | |
mandate to do that, anybody who is dissenting from that is not about | :54:40. | :54:46. | |
Jeremy Corbyn, it is about and the Labour Party. The first thing we | :54:47. | :54:51. | |
should be doing is campaigning and overturning the gerrymandering of | :54:52. | :54:53. | |
the boundary changes. Gerrymandering? It is quite simple, | :54:54. | :54:58. | |
they are based on figures that are out of date, two million people have | :54:59. | :55:02. | |
been taken off the electoral role because of Tory processes, so the | :55:03. | :55:06. | |
figures and the selection process is now incorrect and it needs to be | :55:07. | :55:11. | |
revisited. Where is the gerrymandering? They are going ahead | :55:12. | :55:14. | |
with it knowing that the figures are incorrect, and the whole ethos was | :55:15. | :55:23. | |
cutting the cost of politics, whereas at the same time they are | :55:24. | :55:25. | |
putting more people into the House of Lords, and costs will get | :55:26. | :55:28. | |
greater. Thank you both very much for your time, Tim Roche of the GMB, | :55:29. | :55:34. | |
and Michael Whelan of Aslef. Here is Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London's | :55:35. | :55:39. | |
reaction, congratulations to Jeremy, who has won the support of members | :55:40. | :55:42. | |
and supporters. The important thing is for the party to pull together | :55:43. | :55:46. | |
and focus on winning the next general election. He was an Owen | :55:47. | :55:51. | |
Smith supporter. Norman, that is the message from absolutely everybody, | :55:52. | :55:57. | |
the Labour Party has to unite. No surprise, after a leadership | :55:58. | :56:01. | |
contest, of course people will say unity, unity, unity, you wouldn't | :56:02. | :56:04. | |
say anything else. Your wife asks, is this dress nice, of course you | :56:05. | :56:09. | |
say yes, you have to! This is a party that, this result shows, is | :56:10. | :56:14. | |
deeply divided over the issue of Mr Corbyn. Yes, he attracts a lot of | :56:15. | :56:18. | |
buzz of support, but a lot of people are deeply uncomfortable his | :56:19. | :56:24. | |
leadership. The one thing we can get from today is that Jeremy Corbyn is | :56:25. | :56:27. | |
politically bombproof until the next election. The idea of further | :56:28. | :56:31. | |
leadership challenges is for the birds, there is no way his critics | :56:32. | :56:35. | |
can credibly mount a challenge against him, who will be their | :56:36. | :56:39. | |
candidate? Been beaten twice, Mr Corbyn has increased the size of the | :56:40. | :56:44. | |
party, brought in 40,000 new members, they tried to stop him | :56:45. | :56:47. | |
getting on the ballot paper and failed, and in fact he has increased | :56:48. | :56:51. | |
his majority. The one fact we get from today is Jeremy Corbyn will | :56:52. | :56:55. | |
lead the Labour Party into the next general election, for better or | :56:56. | :56:59. | |
worse. OK, thank you very much, thank you, Norman Smith. As you may | :57:00. | :57:03. | |
have gathered, Jeremy Corbyn is still leader of the Labour Party, | :57:04. | :57:06. | |
with a bigger mandate than a year ago. In a moment, the news is coming | :57:07. | :57:12. | |
up on BBC One. We will leave you with a look back at events this | :57:13. | :57:17. | |
morning here at the Labour conference in Liverpool. Have a good | :57:18. | :57:23. | |
afternoon. Please welcome the 2060 leadership candidates, Jeremy Corbyn | :57:24. | :57:27. | |
and Owen Smith. The votes cast for each candidate are as follows. | :57:28. | :57:36. | |
Jeremy Corbyn, 313,000... CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | :57:37. | :57:50. | |
Owen Smith, 190 3000. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | :57:51. | :57:57. | |
Conference, I am delighted to declare Jeremy Corbyn is elected as | :57:58. | :58:01. | |
leader of the Labour Party... CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | :58:02. | :58:16. | |
I want to thank the more than 300,000 supporters who have given me | :58:17. | :58:24. | |
their support and trust in this Labour leadership election. I am | :58:25. | :58:28. | |
honoured to have won the votes of the majority of members, affiliated | :58:29. | :58:33. | |
supporters, and registered supporters. They have given me the | :58:34. | :58:37. | |
second mandate any year to lead our party. -- in a year. | :58:38. | :58:46. | |
# And put your hands where I can see them | :58:47. | :58:51. | |
# More, more, more, more, more, more... # | :58:52. | :58:59. | |
'The greatest players on Earth compete | :59:00. | :59:01. |