US Presidential Debate Highlights BBC News Special

This is BBC News with a full hour of extended highlights

from the first televised debate between the US Presidential

candidates Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.

The White House hopefuls clashed over jobs, tax and race relations

in what could be the most watched debate in TV history,

with just under 100 million viewers.

His cavalier attitude about nuclear weapons is so deeply troubling,

so a man who can be provoked by a tweet should not have his

against my lawyer's wishes when she releases her 33,000 emails

And the attacks turned personal as Donald Trump accused his rival

of not being able to handle the demands of presidency.

You have so many different things you have to be able to do

and I don't belive that Hillary has the stamina.

He tried to to switch from looks to stamina,

but this is a man who has called women pigs, slobs and dogs.

Good morning and welcome to BBC News.

Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump have clashed over jobs, trade,

taxes, race relations and security in their first of three televised

debates of the US presidential campaign.

The showdown, broadcast from New York, lasted 90 minutes

and could be the the most watched debate in TV history,

Each candidate tried hard to discredit the other.

Mr Trump said only he had the right temperament to be president.

Mrs Clinton said her rival was too easily provoked to serve

Over the next hour we'll bring you extended highlights

of the debate, which was hosted by the US TV Network NBC's Lester Holt.

Beginning with you, Secretary Clinton, why are you a better choice

than your opponent to create the kind of jobs that will put more

money into the pockets of American workers? The central question in

this election is really what kind of country we want to be and what kind

of future we will build together. Today is my granddaughter's second

birthday so I think about this a lot. First we have to build an

economy that works for everyone, not just those at the top. That means we

need new good jobs with rising incomes. I want us to invest in you,

I want us to invest in your future. That means jobs in infrastructure,

advanced Manufacturing, innovation and technology, clean renewable

energy and small business because most of the new jobs will come from

small business. We also have to make the economy fairer. That starts with

raising the national minimum wage and also guarantee finally equal pay

for women's work. I also want to see more companies to profit-sharing. If

you help create profits, you should be able to share in them, not just

the executives at the top. I want us to do more to support people who are

struggling to balance family and work. I have heard from so many of

you about the difficult choices you face and the stresses that you under

cover so let's have made family leave, and sick days, affordable

child care and debt free college, by having the wealthy pay their fair

share and close corporate loopholes. Finally, we, tonight, are on the

stage together, Donald Trump and I. Donald, it is good to be with you.

We are going to have a debate where we are talking about the important

issues facing our country. You have to judge us, who can shoulder the

immense awesome responsibility of the presidency. Who can put into

action plans that will make your life better. I hope that I will be

able to earn your vote on November eight. Secretary Clinton, thank you,

Mr Trump, the same question, putting more money into the pockets of

American workers. Our jobs are fleeing the country. They are going

to Mexico, they are going to many other countries. You look at what

China is doing to our country in terms of making our product, they

are devaluing their currency and there's nobody in our government to

fight them. And we have a very good fight and we have a winning fight.

Because they are using our country as a piggy bank to rebuild China and

many other countries are doing the same thing. So we are losing our

good jobs, so many of them. When you look at what is happening in Mexico,

a friend of mine who build plants says they are building some of the

biggest plants anywhere in the world, some of the most

sophisticated, some of the best plants. With the United States, as

he said, not so much. Ford is leaving. You see this, the small car

division, leaving. Thousands of jobs leading Michigan, leaving Ohio. They

are all leaving and we can't allow it to happen any more. As far as

childcare is concerned, and 70 other things, I think Hillary and I agree

on that, we, B disagree a little bit as two numbers and amounts and what

we're going to do but perhaps it will talk about that later. But we

have to do stop our jobs from being stolen from us, we have to stop our

companies from leaving the United States and with it, firing all of

their people. All you have to do is take a look at the air conditioning

company in Indianapolis, they fired 1400 people and they are going to

Mexico. Hundreds of companies are doing this. We cannot let it have.

Under my plan, will be reducing taxes, come on, from 35% to 15% for

companies, but will be a job creator like we haven't seen since Ronald

Reagan. It will be a beta full thing to watch. Companies will build, they

will expand, new companies will start and I look very much forward

to doing it. We have two renegotiate our trade deals and we have to stop

these companies from stealing our companies and our jobs. I think that

trade is an important issue. We are 5% of the world's population, we

have to trade with the other 95%. And we need to have smart, fair

trade deals. We also need to have a tax system that rewards work, and

not just financial transactions. And the kind of plan that Donald has put

forward would be trickle down economics all over again. In fact it

would be the most extreme version, the biggest tax cuts for the top

percent of the people in this country, than we have ever had. I

call it trumped up trickle-down because that is exactly what it will

be. That is not how we grow the economy. We just have a different

view about what is best for growing the economy, how we make investments

that will produce jobs and rising incomes. I think we come at it from

different perspectives. I understand that. Donald was very fortunate in

his life and that's all to his benefit. He started his business

with $40 million borrowed from his father. And he really believes that

the more you help wealthy people, the better off we will be and

everything will work out from there, I don't buy that. I have a different

experience. My father was a small businessman, he worked hard, you

printed fabrics on long tables where he pulled out those fabrics and went

down with a silk screen and dumped the pain in an cook the sponge and

kept going. -- paint in and took the sponge and kept going. The more we

can do for the middle class, the more we can invest in you, your

future, the better we will be and the better we will grow. You have

talked about creating 25 million jobs and you have promised to bring

back millions of jobs from Americans, how are you going to

bring back the industry that have left this country for cheaper labour

overseas? How specifically are you going to tell American manufacturers

that they have to come back? For one thing, before we start on that, my

father gave me a small loan in 1975 and I built it into a company which

is worth many billions of dollars with some of the greatest asset in

the world, I say that only because that is the kind of thinking our

country needs, our country is in deep trouble. We do not know what we

are doing as it comes to devalue, and all of these countries all over

the world, especially China are the best ever at it. What they are doing

to us is a very sad thing. So we have to do that, we have to

renegotiate our trade deals. They are taking our jobs, giving

incentives, doing things that frankly we don't do. Let me give you

the example of Mexico. They have a tax, we have a different system.

When we sell into Mexico, there is a tax, when they sell, automatic, 16%.

When they sell to us, there is no tax. It is a defective agreement. It

has been detected for a long time but the politicians have not done

anything about it. With all fairness the secretary Clinton, yes, if K?

Good. I wanted to be very happy. It is very important to me. In all

fairness to Secretary Clinton, 20 started talking about this, it was

very recently, she has been doing this for 30 years, why hasn't she

made the agreement is better? The agreement is defective because of

the thick -- the tax and other reasons. Let me interrupt you.

Secretary Clinton should have been doing this years, they should have

been doing this the years, not now because we have created a movement.

What has happened to our jobs and our country and our economy

generally is, we don't $20 trillion. -- we owe. Back to the question, how

do you specifically bring back jobs? American manufacturers, how do you

make them bring the jobs back? The first thing you do is do not let the

jobs leave. The companies are leaving. There are thousands of

them, they are leaving in bigger numbers than ever. And what you do

is say, fine, you want to go to Mexico or some other country, good

luck, we wish you luck. But if you think you are going to make your air

conditioners or cars or cookies or whatever you are going to make, and

bring them into our country without a tax, you are wrong. Once you say

you're going to have to tax them coming in, and politicians never do

this, because they have special interests and they want those

companies to leave, because in many cases, they only -- own the company.

So we have to stop them from leaving and that is a big factor. Let's stop

for a second and remember where we were eight years ago.

We had the worst financial crisis, the Great Recession,

That was in large part because of tax policies that slashed

taxes on the wealthy, failed to invest in the middle

class, took their eyes off of Wall Street, and created

In fact, Donald was one of the people who rooted

He said, back in 2006, "Gee, I hope it does collapse,

because then I can go in and buy some and make some money."

Nine million people -- nine million people lost their jobs.

Five million people lost their homes.

And $13 trillion in family wealth was wiped out.

Now, we have come back from that abyss.

So we're now on the precipice of having a potentially

much better economy, but the last thing we need to do

is to go back to the policies that failed us in the first place.

Independent experts have looked at what I've proposed and looked

at what Donald's proposed, and basically they've said this,

that if his tax plan, which would blow up the debt by over

$5 trillion and would in some instances disadvantage middle-class

families compared to the wealthy, were to go into effect,

we would lose 3.5 million jobs and maybe have another recession.

They've looked at my plans and they've said, OK,

if we can do this, and I intend to get it done, we will have

ten million more new jobs, because we will be making

investments where we can grow the economy.

Some country is going to be the clean- energy superpower

Donald thinks that climate change is a hoax

I have tried to be very specific about what we can and should do and

I am determined that we are going to get the economy really moving again.

Building on the progress we have made over the last eight years but

never going back to what got us into trouble in the first place. User

anywhere you want, Secretary Clinton, and you will see

devastation where manufacturing is down 30, 40, 50%. It is the worst

trade deal ever signed anywhere, certainly in this country. Now you

want to improve transpacific partnership will stop you were

totally in favour of it, then you had me say how bad it is, and you

say, I cannot win the debate. You know that if you win it will improve

it, and that will almost be as bad as NAFTA. That is not accurate. I

was against it when it was... You called it the gold standard of trade

deals. He said it was the finest deal you've ever seen. And then you

had what I said about it and all of a sudden you were against it. I know

you live in your own reality, but that is not the facts. I did say I

hoped it would be a good deal, but when it was negotiated... Not. When

it was negotiated I concluded it was. Is the President Obama fault?

Look... Is a President Obama's fault? There are different views

about what is good for our country, our leadership in the world. I think

it is important to look at what we need to do to get the economy again.

That is why I said, new jobs with rising incomes, investments, not in

what -- more tax cuts which would add $5 trillion... But you have no

plan. You have no plan. I do, I have written a book about it, you can

pick it up tomorrow at a book store or at an airport near you. It is

because I see this, we need to have strong growth, said gross, sustained

growth. -- strong growth. You are going to approve one of the biggest

tax raises in history, you're going to drive business ad, radiation

oceans are a disaster and by the way, my tax cut is the biggest since

Ronald Reagan. I am very proud, it will create jobs. But regulations,

you are going to regulate these businesses out of existence. I have

been all over and when I go around, despite the tax cut, the things that

businesses and people like the most is the fact that I am cutting

regulation. You have regulations on top of regulations and new companies

cannot form and old companies are going out of business and you want

to increase regulation and make them even worse. I am going to cut

regulations. I'm going to cut taxes, big league, do a thing to raise

taxes, and a story. We are going to move on. That cannot be left to

stand. I kind of assumed there would be a lot of these charges and

claims. Facts. We have taken the home page of my website and turned

it into a fact checker. So if you want to see in real time what the

facts are, please go and take a look. And take a look at mine also.

We will not add a penny to the debt and your plans would add $5

trillion. Look at your website, no different than this, go to her

website, she tells you how to fight I sit on the website, I do not in

general Douglas MacArthur would like that. -- Isis. At least I have a

plan to fight Isis. You are telling me anything everything you want to

do. We are not. Their wonder you have been fighting Isis your entire

adult life. -- no wonder. Go to the, please, fact checkers, go to work!

We are still on the issue of achieving prosperity. I want to talk

about taxes. The fundamental difference is concerning the

wealthy, Secretary Clinton is calling for attacks increase for the

wealthy, and Mr Trump is calling for tax cuts, defend that. I am really

calling for major jobs because the wealthy will create Canada's jobs.

They will expand the company, they will do a gym in this job on getting

rid of the carried interest provision, if you look, it is a

great thing for the middle-class, it is a great thing for companies to

expand. When these people put billions of dollars in companies,

and bring $2.5 trillion back, I happen to think it is double that,

probably $5 trillion, that week can't bring into our country, with a

little leadership, you will get hit in here very quickly and it could be

put to use on the inner cities are not of the other things and it would

be beautiful. But we have no leadership. And that started

Secretary Clinton. -- starts with. You need to defend tax increases for

the wealthy Americans. I think I will be blamed for everything that

has ever happened by the end of this evening. Why not? Why not, join the

debate by saying more crazy things. There's nothing crave this about not

letting our companies bring our money back this is secretary

Clinton's two minutes. Let's start the clock again. We have looked at

your tax proposals. I do not seek changes in the corporate tax rates

or the kinds of proposals you are referring to that would cause the

bringing back of money stranded overseas. I happen to... Then you

didn't read it. I happen to support that in a way that will work to our

benefit. When I look at what you have proposed, you have got the

Trump loophole which it would so advantage you and the business you

do. You gave it that name? This is secretary Clinton's question. It

would be a tax benefit for your family. ... How much of my family?

It is Trumped up, trickle-down. Trickle-down did not work, it got us

into the mess we were in into thousand and eight. Slashing taxes

on the wealthy has not worked. And a lot of really smart and wealthy

people know that. And they are saying, we need to do more to make

the contributions we should be making to rebuild the middle-class.

I don't think top-down works in America. I think building the

middle-class, investing in the middle class, making college debt

free so more young people can get their education, helping people

refinance their debt from college at a lower rate, those are the kinds of

things that will really boost the economy. Broad-based, inclusive

growth is what we need in America. Not more advantages for people at

the very top. Mr Trump... Typical politician, all talk, no action,

sounds good, doesn't work, never going to happen. Our country is

suffering because people like Secretary Clinton have made such bad

decisions in terms of our jobs and in terms of what's going on. Now

look, we have the worst revival of an economy since the great

depression and believe me, we are in a bubble right now. And the only

thing that looks good if the stock market but if you raise interest

rates even before that, that will come crashing down. We are in a big,

fat, ugly bubble and we better be awfully careful, and we have the Fed

which doing political things, Janet Yellin of the Fed, the Fed is doing

political by keeping interest rates at this level, and believe me, the

day Obama goes off and leaves and goes to the golf course for the rest

of his life, when they raise interest rates, you are going to see

some very bad things happen because the Fed is not doing their job. The

Fed is being more political than Secretary Clinton. Mr Trump, we are

talking about the burdens that American have to pay, you have not

released your tax returns. The reason nominees have released their

return to the decades is that voters know if their potential president

owes money and any potential business complex, don't Americans

have a right to know if there is any conflicts of interest? I am under a

routine audit and it will be released as soon as this are

finished. You will learn more about Donald Trump by going down to the

Federal elections where I filed a 104 page financial statement of

sorts, the form they have, it shows income, in fact, the income, I just

looked today, the income is filed at $694 million for this past year. If

you would have told me I was going to make that 15 or 20 years ago, I

would have been very surprised. But that's the kind of thinking that our

country needs. When we have a country that doing so badly, that is

being ripped off by every single country in the world, it's the kind

of thinking that our country needs because everybody, we have a trade

deficit with all of the countries that we do business with, of almost

$800 billion a year. You know what that is? That means, who is

negotiating the trade deals? We have political hacks negotiating our

trade deal. The Iris says an audit of your taxes, you are perfectly

free to release taxes during an audit, so does the public's write a

note out where your personal... I will release them as soon the audit.

I have been and ordered for 15 years, I know a lot of people who

have not been audited, I get audited every year. In a way I should be

complaining, I do not complain, it is almost a way of life, I am

audited by the IRS. Other people do. Top other people do not. We have a

situation in this country that has to be taken care of. I will release

my tax terms, against my lawyer's wishes, when she releases her 33,000

e-mails that have been deleted. As soon as she releases them, I will

release, I will release my tax returns and that is against my

lawyers, they say, don't do it. I will tell you this, in fact,

watching shows, reading the papers, almost every lawyer says, you do not

release your returns until the audit is complete. I would go against them

if she releases her e-mails. So it is negotiable? Know, why did she

delete... Let me admonition the audience, you were meant to be

silent. I think you have just seen another example of bait and switch.

For 40 years, everyone running for president has released their tax

returns. You can go and see 39 or 40 years with tax returns but everyone

has done it. We note the IRS has made clear there is no probation, on

releasing it, when you're under audit. You have got to ask yourself,

why will he not release his tax returns? And I think there could be

a couple of reasons. First, maybe he is not as rich as he says he is.

Second, maybe he is not as charitable as he claims to be.

Third, we do not know all of his business dealings, but we have been

told through investigative reporting that he owes about $650 million to

Wall Street and foreign banks. Or maybe he doesn't want the American

people, all of you watching tonight, to know that he's paid nothing in

federal taxes, because the only year is that anybody has ever seen were a

couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when

he was trying to get a casino licence and they showed he didn't

pay any federal income tax. That makes me smart. That means 04

troops, 04 veterans, 04 schools or health. -- that means zero, four

troops, of actions, for schools and health. It is but he is not

enthusiastic for the country to see what the real reasons are, it must

be something terrible he is trying to hide. The financial disclosure

statements do not give you the tax rates, all the details that tax

returns to. And it seems to me that this is something that the American

people deserve to see and I have no reason to believe that he is ever

going to release his tax returns. Because there is something he is

hiding. And we will guess, we will keep guessing at what it might be

here is hiding. But I think the question is where he ever to get

near the White House, what would be those conflicts? Who does he owe

money to? Well, he owes you the answers to that and he should

provide them. He also raised the issue of your e-mails, do you want

to respond? I do. I made a mistake using a private e-mail... That is

for sure. And if I had to do it again, I would obviously do it

differently. But I'm not going to make any excuses, it was a mistake

and I take response will achieve that. Mr Trump? That was more than a

mistake. That was done purposely. That was not a mistake. That was

done purposely. When you have your staff taking the fifth Amendment,

taking the fifth, so they are not prosecuted, when you have the man

that set up the illegal server taking the fifth, I think it's

disgraceful. And believe me, this country thinks it's, really thinks

is disgraceful also. As far as my tax returns, you don't learn that

much on taxidermist, that I can tell you. You learn a lot from financial

disclosure. And he should go down and take a look about. The other

thing, I am extremely under leveraged. The report that says

accountant and 50, by -- that said 650, a lot of friends of mine said

they'll did not think that was a lot of money, the building that were

mentioned, it was not even bad story, the buildings were worth 3.5

billion dollars. The 650 was not on that, it is much less than that. I

could give you a list of banks, if that would help you, I would give

you a list of banks, very fine institutions, very fine banks, I can

do that quickly. I have a great company, tremendous income and the

reason I say that is not in a bag of vicious way, it is -- bragging way,

it is about time that this country has somebody running at that has an

idea about money. When we have $20 trillion in debt and our country is

a mess, it is wanting to be in debt and our roads and bridges are good,

and everything are in great shape and our airports, our airport like a

third World country. You land in New York and we do not have the money

because it has been squandered on so many of your ideas. And maybe

because you have not paid any federal income tax for a lot of

years. And the other thing... It would be squandered too, believe me.

If your main claim to be president of the United States is your

business, then I think we should talk about that. Your campaign

manager said that you built a lot of businesses on the backs of little

guys. And indeed, I have met a lot of the people who were stiffed by

you and your businesses, Donald. I have met dishwashers, painters,

architects, alas installer is, marble installers, -- blasts

installers, drapery installers like my dad, who you refuse to pay when

they finished their work. We have an architect that designed one of your

clubhouses at a golf course. It is a beautiful facility, it immediately

was put to use. And you would not pay what the man needed to be paid

what he was charging you... Maybe he didn't do a good job and I was not

satisfied with his work, which our country should do. The thousands of

people that you have stiffed over the course of your business, do they

not deserve some kind of apology? From someone who has taken their

labour, taking the goods they produce, and then refused to pay

them? I can only say that I am certainly relieved that my late

father never did business with you. When we talk about your business,

you have taken business bankruptcy six-pack -- six times.

There are a lot of great businesspeople that have never

You call yourself the King of Debt. You talk about leverage.

You even at one time suggested that you would try to negotiate

Well, sometimes there's not a direct transfer of skills from business

to Government, but sometimes what happened in business would be

And we need to be very clear about that.

Look, it's all words, it's all sound bites.

Some of the greatest assets anywhere in the world, real estate assets

anywhere in the world, beyond the United States,

But on occasion, four times, we used certain laws that are there.

And when Secretary Clinton talks about people that didn't get paid,

first of all, they did get paid a lot, but taken advantage

Now, if you want to change the laws, you've been there a long time,

But I take advantage of the laws of the nation because I'm

Stop-and-frisk was ruled unconstitutional in New York,

because it largely singled out black and Hispanic young men.

It went before a judge, who was a very against-police judge.

And our mayor, our new mayor, refused to go forward with the case.

If you look at it, throughout the country, there are many places

The argument is that it's a form of racial profiling.

No, the argument is that we have to take the guns away from these

people that have them and they are bad people that

These are people that are bad people that shouldn't be...when

you have 3,000 shootings in Chicago from January first,

when you have 4,000 people killed in Chicago by guns,

from the beginning of the presidency of Barack Obama, his hometown,

You need a better community, you know, relation.

You don't have good community relations in Chicago.

It's terrible what's going on in Chicago.

But when you look...and Chicago's not the only...you go to Ferguson,

I agree with Secretary Clinton on this.

You need better relationships between the communities

and the police, because in some cases, it's not good.

But we need...Lester, we need law and order.

And we need law and order in the inner cities,

because the people that are most affected by what's happening

are African-American and Hispanic people.

And it's very unfair to them what our politicians

Well, I've heard...I've heard Donald say this at his rallies,

and it's really unfortunate that he paints such a dire negative

picture of black communities in our country.

You know, the vibrancy of the black church,

the black businesses that employ so many people,

the opportunities that so many families are working

There's a lot that we should be proud of and we should be

But we do always have to make sure we keep people safe.

There are the right ways of doing it, and then there are ways

Stop-and-frisk was found to be unconstitutional and, in part,

And it's just a fact that if you're a young African-American man

and you do the same thing as a young white man,

you are more likely to be arrested, charged,

So we've got to address the systemic racism in our

along with the gun lobby...right now, we've got too many military-

In a lot of places, our police are outgunned.

We need comprehensive background checks, and we need to keep guns out

of the hands of those who will do harm.

And we finally need to pass a prohibition on anyone who's

on the terrorist watch list from being able to buy

If you're too dangerous to fly, you are too dangerous to buy a gun.

But I will tell you, I've been all over.

And I've met some of the greatest people I'll ever meet

And they are very, very upset with what their politicians have

told them and what their politicians have done.

I think...I think...I think Donald just criticized me for preparing

And you know what else I prepared for?

Mr Trump, for five years, you perpetuated a false claim

that the nation's first black president was not

In the last couple of weeks, you acknowledged what most Americans

have accepted for years: The president was born

Can you tell us what took you so long?

I'll tell you very...well, just very simple to say.

Sidney Blumenthal works for the campaign and close...very

And her campaign manager, Patti Doyle, went to...during

the campaign, her campaign against President Obama,

And you can go look it up, and you can check it out.

And if you look at CNN this past week, Patti Solis Doyle

was on Wolf Blitzer saying that this happened.

Blumenthal sent McClatchy, highly respected reporter at McClatchy,

She failed to get the birth certificate.

I got him to give the birth certificate.

And I'll tell you why I'm satisfied with it.

Because I want to get on to defeating Isis,

because I want to get on to creating jobs,

because I want to get on to having a strong border, because I want

to get on to things that are very important to me and that are very

But I just want to get the answer here.

The birth certificate was produced in 2011.

You've continued to tell the story and question the president's

So the question is, what changed your mind?

Well, nobody was pressing it, nobody was caring much about it.

I figured you'd ask the question tonight, of course.

But I was the one that got him to produce the birth certificate.

I mean, you know...now, everybody in mainstream

is going to say, oh, that's not true.

Sidney Blumenthal sent a reporter...you just have

to take a look at CNN, the last week, the interview

But just like she can't bring back jobs, she can't produce.

I'm just going to follow up...and I will let you respond to that,

But we're talking about racial healing in this segment.

What do you say to Americans, people of colour who...

I say nothing, because I was able to get him to produce it.

He should have produced it a long time before.

And clearly, as Donald just admitted, he knew

he was going to stand on this debate stage,

and Lester Holt was going to be asking us questions,

so he tried to put the whole racist birther lie to bed.

But it can't be dismissed that easily.

He has really started his political activity based on this racist lie

that our first black president was not an American citizen.

Well, first I have to say one thing, very important.

Secretary Clinton is talking about taking out Isis.

Well, President Obama and Secretary Clinton created

a vacuum the way they got out of Iraq, because they got

out...what, they shouldn't have been in, but once they got in,

She's been trying to take them out for a long time.

But they wouldn't have even been formed if they left some troops

behind, like 10,000 or maybe something more than that.

Or, as I've been saying for a long time, and I think you'll agree,

because I said it to you once, had we taken the oil...and we should

have taken the oil...ISIS would not have been able to form

either, because the oil was their primary source of income.

And now they have the oil all over the place, including the oil...a lot

of the oil in Libya, which was another one

Well, I hope the fact-checkers are turning up the volume

Donald supported the invasion of Iraq.

That is absolutely proved over and over again.

He actually advocated for the actions we took in Libya

and urged that Gadhafi be taken out, after actually doing some

But the larger point...and he says this constantly...is George W.

Bush made the agreement about when American troops

When Isis formed in this vacuum created by Barack Obama

And believe me, you were the ones that took out the troops.

They sat back probably and said, I can't believe it.

When they formed, when they formed, this is something that never

Now, you're talking about taking out Isis.

But you were there, and you were Secretary of State

A lot of these are judgment questions.

You had supported the war in Iraq before the invasion.

That is a mainstream media nonsense put out by her,

because she...frankly, I think the best person

Why is your...why is your judgment...

When I did an interview with Howard Stern, very lightly,

first time anyone's asked me that, I said, very lightly,

I then did an interview with Neil Cavuto.

We talked about the economy is more important.

I then spoke to Sean Hannity, which everybody refuses

I had numerous conversations with Sean Hannity at Fox.

And Sean Hannity said...and he called me the other day...and

I spoke to him about it...he said you were totally against the war,

Sean Hannity said very strongly to me and other

people...he's willing to say it, but nobody wants to call him.

He said, you used to have fights with me, because Sean was in favor

And I understand that side, also, not very much,

because we should have never been there.

And then they did an article in a major magazine,

But they did an article which had me totally against the war in Iraq.

And one of your compatriots said, you know, whether it was before

or right after, Trump was definitely...because if you read

But if somebody...and I'll ask the press...if somebody

would call up Sean Hannity, this was before the war started.

He and I used to have arguments about the war.

I said, it's a terrible and a stupid thing.

It's going to destabilize the Middle East.

My reference was to what you had said in 2002, and my question was...

Why is your judgment...why is your judgment any different than Mrs.

Well, I have much better judgment than she does.

I also have a much better temperament than she has, you know?

I have a much better...she spent...let me tell you...she spent

hundreds of millions of dollars on an advertising...you know,

they get Madison Avenue into a room, they put names...oh,

temperament, let's go after...I think my strongest asset,

I know how to win. She does not have a...

The AFL-CIO the other day, behind the blue screen,

I don't know who you were talking to, Secretary Clinton,

I said, there's a person with a temperament that's

Let's talk about two important issues that were briefly mentioned

You know, Nato as a military alliance has something called

Article five, and basically it says this: An attack on one

And you know the only time it's ever been invoked?

After 9/11, when the 28 nations of Nato said that they would go

to Afghanistan with us to fight terrorism, something

that they still are doing by our side.

With respect to Iran, when I became Secretary of State,

Iran was weeks away from having enough nuclear material

They had mastered the nuclear fuel cycle under the Bush administration.

They had stocked them with centrifuges that

I voted for every sanction against Iran when I was in

So I spent a year-and-a-half putting together a coalition that included

Russia and China to impose the toughest sanctions on Iran.

And we did drive them to the negotiating table.

And my successor, John Kerry, and President Obama got a deal that

put a lid on Iran's nuclear programme without firing

That's diplomacy. That's coalition-building.

The other day, I saw Donald saying that there were some Iranian sailors

on a ship in the waters off Iran, and they were taunting American

He said, you know, if they taunted our sailors,

I'd blow them out of the water and start another war.

That is not the right temperament to be commander-in-

Of what we heard Donald say has been about nuclear weapons.

He has said repeatedly that he didn't care if other nations

got nuclear weapons, Japan, South Korea, even Saudi Arabia.

It has been the policy of the United States,

Democrats and Republicans, to do everything we could to reduce

the proliferation of nuclear weapons.

He even said, well, you know, if there were nuclear

war in East Asia, well, you know, that's fine...

And, in fact, his cavalier attitude about nuclear weapons

That is the number-one threat we face in the world.

And it becomes particularly threatening if terrorists

ever get their hands on any nuclear material.

Earlier this month, you said she doesn't have,

And I don't believe she does have the stamina.

To be president of this country, you need tremendous stamina.

You have to be able to negotiate our trade deals.

You have to be able to negotiate, that's right, with Japan,

I mean, can you imagine, we're defending Saudi Arabia?

And with all of the money they have, we're defending them,

You have so many different things you have to be able to do,

and I don't believe that Hillary has the stamina.

Well, as soon as he travels to 112 countries and negotiates a peace

deal, a ceasefire, a release of dissidents, an opening

of new opportunities in nations around the world, or even spends 11

hours testifying in front of a congressional committee,

Hillary has experience, but it's bad experience.

We have made so many bad deals during the last...so she's got

Whether it's the Iran deal that you're so in love with,

where we gave them $150 billion back, whether it's the Iran deal,

whether it's anything you can...name...you almost

She's got experience, but it's bad experience.

And this country can't afford to have another four years

We are at...we are at the final question.

You know, he tried to switch from looks to stamina.

But this is a man who has called women pigs, slobs and dogs,

and someone who has said pregnancy is an inconvenience to employers,

Women don't deserve equal pay unless they do as good a job as men.

And one of the worst things he said was about a woman

He loves beauty contests, supporting them and hanging around them.

And he called this woman "Miss Piggy."

Then he called her "Miss Housekeeping,"

And she has become a US citizen, and you can bet...

You know, Hillary is hitting me with tremendous commercials.

Some of it's said...somebody who's been very vicious to me,

Rosie O'Donnell, I said very tough things to her,

and I think everybody would agree that she deserves it and nobody

Extremely rough to Hillary, to her family, and I said

But she spent hundreds of millions of dollars on negative ads

on me, many of which are absolutely untrue.

And I will tell you this, Lester: It's not nice.

But it's certainly not a nice thing that she's done.

And the only gratifying thing is, I saw the polls come in today,

We have to move on to the final question.

$200 million is spent, and I'm either winning or tied,

One of you will not win this election.

So my final question to you tonight, are you willing to accept

the outcome as the will of the voters?

And sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

But I certainly will support the outcome of this election.

And I know Donald's trying very hard to plant doubts about it,

but I hope the people out there understand: This

It's not about us so much as it is about you and your families

and the kind of country and future you want.

So I sure hope you will get out and vote as though your

future depended on it, because I think it does.

Will you accept the outcome as the will of the voters?

We are a nation that is seriously troubled.

We're losing our jobs. People are pouring into our country.

The other day, we were deporting 800 people.

And perhaps they passed the wrong button, they pressed the wrong

button, or perhaps worse than that, it was corruption, but these people

that we were going to deport for good reason ended

And now it turns out it might be 1,800, and they don't even know.

Will you accept the outcome of the election?

The answer is, if she wins, I will absolutely support her.

That concludes our debate for this evening, a spirit one.

We covered a lot of ground, not everything as I

The next presidential debates are scheduled for October ninth

Louis and October 19th at the University of Nevada Las

The vice presidential debate is scheduled for October fourth

at Longwood University in Farmville, Virginia.

My thanks to Hillary Clinton and to Donald Trump

and to Hofstra University for hosting us tonight.

Was the first of three presidential debates. It lasted 90 minutes and

afterwards, supporters on both sides saw it as a victory. Our reporter

has been assessing the mood of both camps. After 90 minutes of trading

blows, it was time to find a more welcoming arena. Her fans will see

this as a victory lap. But to win, involves some spin. Donald Trump

took the unusual step of entering the pressroom himself, as both

candidates declared themselves champion. Donald Trump won Leigh Day

hands down. Clinton proved she could not be president. The political

drama gripped viewers in the United States. They cheered and jeered as

the combat continued but it is unclear what impact it will have.

Overall, disappointed. I did not hear a lot of reasons to vote for

either candidate. I heard a lot of tit-for-tat, a lot of attacks. He

did not come off as stupid or insensitive as you normally would. I

have to give him some respect on that. It was comical. I got what I

expected. Hillary represented totally. She said, check my resume.

Trump, on the other hand, made a lot of... People tuned in in China,

after searching online. TRANSLATION: I personally like Trump's character,

he feels like a fighter. From today's performance, I think Clinton

was more like the mature politician, Trump looked like a misfit. There

was no humbling as some anticipated. But the debate has made history and

not just in viewing figures. Amidst the noise, it has been forgotten

that this is the first time a woman has been on the presidential debate

stage. There is more on the US presidential debate on our website.

For highlights, reaction and analysis, go to our website. Coming

up at midday, a Service of Thanksgiving for broadcasting

legend, Sir Terry Wogan at Westminster Abbey. We will bring you

coverage of that when it begins at midday. Let's catch up with the

weather. Thank you. Lots of cloud around. We're seeing some breaks in

that and some sunshine coming through. Behind this