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Good morning. The nation will shortly pause to observe a minutes'

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silence in memory of those who died when fire broke out five days ago at

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Grenfell Tower in Kensington in North London. The Metropolitan

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Police say they believe 79 people lost their lives in the fire, the

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worst in our recent history. Police say conditions inside the building

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were indescribable and the challenge facing them, as they searched the

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tower to recover those people still inside and return them to their

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loved ones, could take weeks to complete. The nationwide silence is

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being held across all Government buildings and around the UK people

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are gathering to show their respect to those who died and all those

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affected by the fire. The nation then observing a minutes

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silence for those who lost their lives and all those affected by the

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fire in Grenfell Tower in West London. Police now say 79 people are

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believed to have died. There'll be further coverage from Grenfell Tower

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on BBC One and the BBC News Channel and we'll bring you any updates from

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the police and emergency services as soon as we have them.

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The Prime Minister is chairing a meeting of the Grenfell recovery

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tower Task Force. We'll bring you updates throughout the morning.

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Another community in shock this morning. One man dead and ten people

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injured after a van was driven into worshippers outside a mosque in

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Finsbury park. A man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted

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murder. Theresa May's held a meeting of the cobra emergency committee in

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response to that attack, now described as a terrorist attack. We

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can go live to the scene now and join my colleague, Ben Brown who is

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there. This is BBC News, I'm Ben Brown live

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in Finsbury park where police are investigating the third terror

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attack in London in three months. Once again, a vehicle was used to

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target people as a van was driven at speed into a crowd of Muslim

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worshippers close to a mosque. One person has died, ten have been

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injured. By standers pin down the terror

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suspect beforehanding him over to the police. When he was running, he

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said he was going to kill more people because he was going like

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this with his hand. I asked him, why do you do that, you know, why?

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Innocent people. He goes, I want to kill Muslims.

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A 48-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder.

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Good morning to you from Finsbury Park in North London where one man

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has died and ten people have been injured. Two of them seriously after

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a man drove a van into worshippers at a mosque near here where we are.

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The van hit people after mounting a pavement. Just after Midnight at the

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Muslim welfare house mosque close to the Finsbury Park mosque. A

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48-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder.

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Scotland Yard and the Home Secretary Amber Rudd both saying that it's

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being treated as a terrorist incident, Counter-Terrorism officers

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are here at the scene investigating right now. The Mayor of London,

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Sadiq Khan, said the attack is "an assault on all of our shared values

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of tolerance, freedom and respect. " We are going to hear from some

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eyewitnesses who spoke to my colleague Joanna Gosling earlier.

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We were here last night, came out for prayers, there was loads of

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Muslims on the street. The van ploughed into them and then the

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drive was eventually dragged out of the car on to the floor, people were

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hitting him and punching with him because they were angry with his

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actions. The Imam came out and said, do not hit him, pin him down and

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call the police, which is the right thing to do. He's given us good

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words of advice but still as Muslims today, we are victimised and store

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owe typed and ladies and gentemened as terrorists when we are not.

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Muslims don't feel safe walking the streets of Britain. Were you in the

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group of people around the man when he was taken out of the van? Yes.

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What was that like? Was he trying to stay in the van? It was a struggle

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to get him out. Eventually he was pinned to the floor and people were

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beating him up because they were angry residents about his actions.

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Once he was pinned down, the police came but the response time was

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actually too long. I spoke to the police on the other side of the

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police and asked why it took so long when the London Bridge incident it

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was four minutes' response time, Lee Rigby response time 6 minutes, it

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took far longer today and the Metropolitan Police have to answer

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that, why it took so long. I have video footage of a Somalian woman on

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the floor covered in blood. The ambulance took 40 minutes to come. I

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asked the policeman and he said, I can't disclose any information. I

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spoke to another officer and he said to me, it was because it was

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reported as a collision, a driver's crashed, therefore it wasn't a

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priority. When did people think that it was something other than an

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accidental collision? Everyone was confused thinking maybe the driver

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slipped up, crashed, using his phone or something. When we saw the

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violence, he was building up speed towards us to plough into us, it was

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a reaction of what happened to London Bridge. It was a premeditated

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attack. He specifically picked Finsbury Park, predominantly a

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Muslim area, highly populated, he knew exactly what time prayers were

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finishing and he came out and specifically run the Muslims over.

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It's not fair on Muslims, we are already victimised as it is, we

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don't feel safe, who is going to want to go the mosque now looking

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behind our backs just to practise our religion. We are living in fear

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and we shouldn't have to live like this.

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We have heard from the Commissioner of The Metropolitan Police, Cressida

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Dick saying London is a city of many faiths and nationalities, an attack

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on one community is an attack on us all. She said terrorists would not

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succeed in their attempts to divide us and to make us live in fear. That

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was from the Commissioner of The Metropolitan Police, Cressida Dick,

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also from the deputy assistant commissioner Neil Basu saying there

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would be extra police patrols in all communities in London, particularly

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though those marking Ramadan. Let's get this report on the latest from

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Richard Galpin. Hit by a van which ploughed into the

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crowd, leaving many casualties. He basically drove on the pavement,

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coming straight towards all the Muslims and he, as he was coming to

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them, he hit all of them. I was coming from the shops and I saw a

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large crowd of people on the palement. I learnt after, a van that

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was standing out by the traffic lights, was the van that mowed the

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people down. The crowd managed to catch the van driver, pinning him

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down before he could escape. These pictures appear to show the

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suspect being detained by the police. This is being treated as a

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terrorist attack and the Counter Terrorism Commander is

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investigating. This was an attack on London and all Londoners and we

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should all stand together against extremists whatever their cause. In

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the aftermath of the attack, some started praying on the streets. This

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is the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. Amongst the community here, there

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have been some accusations that the authorities were slow to call this a

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terrorist attack. But this is being denied by the

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Government. It was treated immediately as a

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suspected terrorist attack. We must allow the police to deal with the

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facts and they will make sure that they madeth make those facts

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available as soon as they can. Our priority must be to support the

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people who've been the victims of this and to make sure the

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investigation is done with all due speed and professionalism.

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This morning, the area remains sealed off, as the police

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investigation continues. Already, there are plans to increase security

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around mosques. Each borough commander across London, there are

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32 boroughs we are talking about, we'll make sure there are additional

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uniformed officers around mosques. Some of that is from people being

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brought back off leave to make sure we are keeping everyone safe.

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Towards the end of the month of Ramadan, it's the highest part of

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the month with more and more worshippers going to mosque,

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particularly in the evenings. We don't want to make anybody think

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they can't go about their life through feeling vulnerable or

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scared. Muslim leaders say there have been many incidents of

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Islamophobia, following the attacks in Manchester and London, by

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Islamist extremists. What's happened in Finsbury park now is by far the

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worst. Richard Galpin, BBC News. Counterterrorist officers are here.

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Let's talk to the former head of the national Counter-Terrorism Serious

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Fraud Office who joins me at the scene. What will Counter-Terrorism

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officers be doing now? It's similar to other attacks, similar to other

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attacks, therefore they need to get as much evidence as they can about

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what's happened at the scene, witnesses and things like that, but

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also the forensics that go along with that. The most important thing

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again is, just because this person was in the van on his own, it

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doesn't mean he's acted alone. It's important they track down anyone

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linked to him in any way. Luckily they've arrested him, they've got

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him in custody, so that should be easy to find out. Also of course his

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motives because that's very important from the terrorist

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perspective. So trying to find out if it's a wider conspiracy, not just

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him acting alone? Yes, and to all intents and purposes, at the moment,

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it looks like it's him acting alone, but we don't know, there may be

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other people involved in and and how did he come to do this. There is a

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big difference between a lone actor and a person who is part of a wider

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network and it's important for the police to identify that, tie that

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down and get won the job of taking the man to court. We have seen a

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vehicle, it seems, attacking pedestrians. It appears to be the

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new method, if you like, of terrorist attacks? Of course, it's

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very simple and it's an easy thing to copy cat. Men and you could do

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out in a car and decide to do that if we were inclined. Very difficult

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for the police to do anything about unless they have prior intelligence

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about that and we have a lot of people out there that might be so

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inclined. Unfortunately, it's an easy thing to do and it's something

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we might have to deal with in the future. How stretched do you think

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Scotland Yard would be? Right now they have had so much to deal with

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in the last few months, the Westminster attack, the London

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Bridge attack, the Grenfell Tower as well. Police have been put on the

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Grenfell Tower issue so I don't know how the Government can go ahead with

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the further cuts coming up for the police perhaps this year, really the

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Government needs to tell the police here and now that those cuts cannot

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go ahead, in fact they need more money to keep us safe, because the

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police, as we stand, are so stretched. Part of the reason

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perhaps that the response was a bit lax here overnight was because these

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officers have been working so hard all this last few weeks. Scotland

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Yard saying they were on the scene pretty quickly within ten minutes

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certainly of the first call. Chris Phillips, thank you very much

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indeed, former head of the Counter-Terrorism office. Norman

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Smith has the latest from Downing Street. Norman.

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Thank you very much. That cobra meeting bringing together all the

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emergency services, Intelligence Services, local authority, all the

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key players. I think that has now actually finished because we saw the

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Home Secretary Amber Rudd leaving a short time ago. They'll have been

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trying to work out - if you look behind me actually, they are

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bringing out a lectern, that will be for the Prime Minister to make a

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statement I would think in the next sort of 15 minutes or so. An

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important statement from the Prime Minister and how she calibrates this

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because she's faced a lot of criticism in the wake of the

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Grenfell Tower disaster, so she'll want to catch the rights mood and

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strike the right note. Obviously a very different response to the

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aftermath of the London Bridge attack when you will remember the

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Prime Minister gave that speech about enough is enough and she's set

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out a series of measures to confront Islamist extremism. Now of course

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she's having to address terrorism directed, it seems, at the Muslim

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community. Then she was talking about a series of policy

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initiatives, for example, beefing up TPims, the security orders placed on

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terror suspects. She talked about trying to make it easier to deport

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people even suggesting maybe opting out of elements of the Human Rights

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Act to make it easier to pursue such policies. Today a different sort of

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statement, the Prime Minister will want to stress terrorism is

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terrorism from wherever it comes, but also a moment when I expect she

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will want to offer some words of reassurance because this is the

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fourth terrorist incident we have had in the last three months, the

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third in London. So just to try and reassure people that they can still

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go about their daily lives. The other area which of course is going

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to be a focus of a lot of attention will be resources, are there

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sufficient police resources to deal with this threat we now seem to

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face? The Home Secretary saying earlier that she did not believe

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resources were an issue and the emergency services were satisfied

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with what they have got. We know in the wake of the London Bridge attack

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there was a degree of criticism of the fact that 20,000 police officers

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have been cut over the period of the last five or six years, although the

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Home Secretary is believed now the home, emergency services have

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sufficient resources but she said that would be kept under review.

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Norman, we have had this succession of terrible events, London,

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Westminster Bridge, London Bridge, the Grenfell Tower disaster, and now

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this, that would be enough to test the mettle of any Prime Minister and

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any government. Sure, these are extraordinarily

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difficult, turbulence and daunting times and unsettling times. That's

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why I say it is so imperative the Prime Minister manages to strike the

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right tone, that as Prime Minister she manages to give voice, perhaps,

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yes, to the sense of horror and grievance, but also just to reassure

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people that our way of life can continue, people can go about their

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daily business, the police are putting an additional resources,

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just to strike the right national mood. Interesting too I thought that

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Sajid Javid, the Communities Secretary has been down to Finsbury

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Park. He said it was his first instinct is to go down there. We

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don't know whether Theresa May will go there but Sajid Javid has been

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there. Also interesting trying to reassure people there about the

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police response about which there has been criticism on the ground

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describing it as thorough and professional. He said the police had

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been on the site within a couple of minutes, which would be a very swift

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response indeed, but clearly he feels the police did manage to

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respond very, very swiftly to the first reports of the attack in

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Finsbury Park. We should get more details about the Government's

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overall response shortly from the Prime Minister.

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OK, Norman, thank you. Norman Smith, Assistant political editor. Some

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police officers in the vicinity responded almost immediately and

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others within about ten minutes of the first emergency cool, at

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12:21am. The community secretary Sajid Javid has been here and Jeremy

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Corbyn was here overnight for a considerable amount of time saying

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he was shocked by this horrific and cruel attack and is expected to come

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a bit later on to attend prayers at the Finsbury Park Mosque just down

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the road from here. Let's talk to somebody who witnessed the aftermath

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of what happened here. Joining me now is the BBC

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reporter Abdirahim Saeed. He works for the BBC World Service.

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Tell us what you saw and heard. I arrived just what looks like after

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the incident has happened. I was driving from central London into

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North London to my home address and by pure coincidence I saw a huge

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amount of police cars and ambulances trying to get through, and just like

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others I made my way, opened the way for them and we came through and I

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passed the incident, or the location of what happened on my left hand

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side and immediately looked to my left and realised something was not

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right. There were just too many people shouting, disorganised, and I

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immediately chose to park my car at the next left and came back perhaps

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30 steps, walked back, and I saw one of the most horrific scenes. I saw a

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couple of bodies motionless, not moving. Two men, their clothes were

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bloodied. I spoke to people and I said, what did you see? More than

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one person confirmed. One person said I saw everything from a to Z.

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He said, do you see that white van behind us? There was a white van

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just across the bodies and I was told eventually there were eight

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bodies minimum on the ground and one person told me, can you see that

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Van? That van took an immediate swerve left and mowed into a group

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of people. This was a side road, dead-end, there is a local cafe. I

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asked more than once, I was told that the Islamic community normally

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congregates there. To give you context, there are a couple of

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mosques around here, the nearest one is 30 seconds away. Remember that

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this is the last few days of Ramadan, a lot of people would have

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been leaving that mask, performing their last prayers in the evening

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very late in the day and probably they have either finished, or they

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were taking a break at the cafe, so there were lots of people milling

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around that area and it was very busy.

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So the people you saw lying on the floor, what we know was ten people

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were injured and two seriously, say the police command one man who died.

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He was already being treated, we are told, perhaps for a heart condition,

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that's when the van struck the people they're treating that man.

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The actual suspected attack happened not in front of the two mosques,

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although the two mosques are very nearby, a few seconds walk, they

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happened a few seconds walk from the side road at the cafe. What more

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than one person told me is there was an old gentleman, lots of people

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described him as an Asian man, he wasn't feeling well and he collapsed

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at the side road. A lot of people who were just leaving the mosque and

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other people, Muslims and non-Muslims, tried to help him so

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lots of people were gathered around him. And I have been told, just as

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that happened that van just drove through. You've been here for quite

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a few hours. What do you sense is the mood of the community? How much

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anger is there? I didn't leave immediately, I stayed there for an

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hour, until the police got there, but when I arrived there was no

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police cordoned, people were dealing with the immediate aftermath and I

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had access to the scene. Fortunately there were people already performing

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CPR, and also by that time a few of the ambulance crews had also

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arrived. I spoke to people, I spoke to many people. Some saw exacting

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what happened and some were quite worried. Lot people were quite

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shocked initially, has this really happened here? A lot of people just

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had their mouths covered, gasping, can't believe what just happened,

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and later on people started opening up. Given the circumstances, the

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number of people that were on the ground, given the fact a lot of

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people said I did not see it myself but came soon after, a lot of people

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said the man was apprehended. We have confirmation on the police but

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his identity has not been confirmed. A lot of people said he was a white

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man. Given that, given what he uttered, I did not see that and I

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did not hear him but he uttered anti-Muslim, antique Islamic, --

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anti-Islamic, Islamophobic slogans. Things moved from shock into

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condemnation. This should not be happening. A lot of people said they

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are looking for swift and fast condemnation from politicians. They

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should not be waiting. Very good to talk to you, thank you for being

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with us, Abdirahim Saeed, who saw the aftermath of what happened,

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works for the BBC World Service. We spoke to Abdul-Rahman earlier, who

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said the man from the van, the driver, said kill all Muslims and

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this eyewitness was one of several people who hit him and pinned him to

:25:36.:25:41.

the ground and a local imam came and told them just keep hold of the man

:25:42.:25:49.

until the police arrived. The imams appealed for calm. That's the latest

:25:50.:25:53.

from here at the scene. We know that after this attack which is being

:25:54.:25:57.

treated as a suspected terror attack by counterterror officers who are

:25:58.:26:02.

here on the scene, one man has died, ten are injured, two seriously. We

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expect a statement from the Prime Minister at about 11:30am. This is

:26:06.:26:11.

the scene in Downing Street. We will bring that to you live as soon as

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the Prime Minister appears from No 10 with the statement on this latest

:26:20.:26:21.

terror attack to strike the United Kingdom, the fourth in four months.

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That's it from Finsbury Park, back to Rebecca in the studio.

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Thank you, Ben. More on the Grenfell Tower fire now. Police say 79 people

:26:31.:26:36.

are either dead or missing and presumed dead. Home affairs

:26:37.:26:38.

correspondent Dominic De McDonagh Cassie Arnie is at new Scotland

:26:39.:26:41.

Yard. We have heard from the Metropolitan Police within the last

:26:42.:26:46.

hour. It has been a very grim update.

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It has indeed, it's been really quite grim, Commander Stuart Cundy

:26:51.:26:58.

in charge of this incredibly large operation, 250 investigators now

:26:59.:27:03.

working on this operation to try and recover the remains of those killed

:27:04.:27:07.

in this fire. And also secure the scene and understand what has

:27:08.:27:13.

happened. A little while ago Commander Stuart Cundy came out to

:27:14.:27:16.

give us an update on those figures. Let's hear what he said. Over the

:27:17.:27:20.

last 48 hours are investigators have been working tirelessly and working

:27:21.:27:25.

with families to establish just how many we believe are missing from

:27:26.:27:36.

Grenfell Tower. And as of this morning, I'm afraid to say there are

:27:37.:27:41.

now 79 people who we believe are either dead or missing, and I have

:27:42.:27:53.

sadly to presume are dead. Of that 79 we have formally identified five

:27:54.:27:58.

people. We are supporting the families and loved ones of each of

:27:59.:28:07.

those 79. With the agreement of the families and the coroner, once we

:28:08.:28:11.

have confirmed identities of those who have died we will be releasing

:28:12.:28:20.

their names. Now, sadly, for many families they have lost more than

:28:21.:28:25.

one family member and my heart truly goes out to them.

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Commander Stuart Cundy there. You got a sense of the emotion in his

:28:33.:28:35.

own voice. He went into Grenfell Tower on Saturday morning with his

:28:36.:28:40.

team and he told us that he simply couldn't find the words to describe

:28:41.:28:44.

the devastation he saw in there, the absolutely appalling scene from flat

:28:45.:28:49.

to flat, from floor to floor as he went through the building from top

:28:50.:28:52.

to bottom to get a sense of how awful this fire had been. I will

:28:53.:28:55.

give you a sense of how difficult it is now going to be for the police to

:28:56.:28:59.

move forward in terms of identifying all of the 79, and potentially other

:29:00.:29:04.

victims as well, if these figures change. The police have already

:29:05.:29:09.

worked out that there may have to go abroad, they may have to try and

:29:10.:29:13.

retrieve dental records from overseas, quite simply because so

:29:14.:29:17.

many people who lived in Grenfell began their lives in another part of

:29:18.:29:21.

the world. That in itself will delay the investigation and enormous

:29:22.:29:24.

amount as well. The criminal investigation, this site is also

:29:25.:29:28.

very important, the police say they are looking at potentially all types

:29:29.:29:32.

of criminal offences and they are breaking the investigation down into

:29:33.:29:35.

three parts. They are going to be looking at how the building was

:29:36.:29:38.

managed and maintained down the years, its fire safety record and

:29:39.:29:42.

the procedure is there to manage if I should an emergency happen and

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finally the reconstruction and refurbishment of Grenfell Tower

:29:49.:29:51.

which has been at centre of a great deal of speculation over the last

:29:52.:29:54.

few days. Commander Stuart Cundy said it would be a far-reaching

:29:55.:29:57.

investigation but he would not put a figure on how long it will take. In

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terms of the recovery of the victims that take many weeks. Thanks,

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Dominic, Dominic Casciani, home affairs correspondent.

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Footage has emerged of firefighters on their way to the blaze last

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Wednesday morning and some viewers may find this distressing.

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Jesus, Christ, mate. If that has got a lot of people in it... EXPLETIVE

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Jesus Christ. My God! There's kids in there!

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Its towering Inferno, isn't it? How is that possible? It has jumped up

:30:49.:30:59.

all the way along the flats, look. How the EXPLETIVE is that possible?

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How has that happened? Footage of firefighters on their way to the

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blaze at Grenfell Tower last Wednesday morning. More now on the

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attack at Finsbury Park Mosque and let's returned to my colleague Ben

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Brown who is there. Thank you. We are expecting a

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statement in Downing Street in the next few minutes from the Prime

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Minister on this latest terror attack to hit the United Kingdom and

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to hit London as well. We'll bring that to you as soon as she appears

:31:29.:31:33.

out of Number Ten. But first of all, let's talk to Professor Andrew Silk

:31:34.:31:37.

here at the scene, director of terrorism studies at the University

:31:38.:31:41.

of East London. So, Andrew, we've got another attack, again using a

:31:42.:31:45.

vehicle, one person dead, ten injured. What are your thoughts

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about this attack? Well, it's the latest in a series of lethal

:31:51.:31:54.

incidents in the UK and I think one of the lessons that comes from it is

:31:55.:31:58.

just how easy it is to carry out fatal attacks. You don't need to

:31:59.:32:03.

acquire weapons, you don't need to make them, you just need a vehicle

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to go out and kill people. One of the concerns, of course, is the

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motivation this time seems to be more right-wing reactionary and that

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kind of feeds into the whole, if you want, extremists and means we are

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more likely to see more attacks than less and it ramps up the

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temperature. There is a fear that there is an element of copy cat in

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this isn't there, once you see a vehicle being used, you copy it?

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Yes, absolutely. In the UK it's not easy to get hold of firearms and

:32:36.:32:39.

weapons, that's something a lot of terrorist groups have struggled

:32:40.:32:42.

with. What we see now is, the solution is, use a vehicle, knives,

:32:43.:32:46.

something that you can acquire cheaply and quickly without

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attracting suspicion and then you can go out and carry out an attack.

:32:49.:32:55.

This isn't an Islamist motivated assault, this is coming from a

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completely different direction, but it's using the merits that have been

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used in other types of attacks and that's a real worry. The police

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investigating here will want to know whether this man was acting alone or

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was acting with others or with the help of others? Absolutely. It will

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be the same cape of questions like we were looking at with Manchester

:33:17.:33:20.

and Westminster, is this an isolated individual or someone with

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connection to a network. If it's right-wing extremism, there are more

:33:25.:33:27.

isolated individuals coming from that direction and don't have the

:33:28.:33:31.

same profile that we see with the Islamist attackers, so we'd expect

:33:32.:33:35.

some differences but it's still politically motivated violence, it's

:33:36.:33:38.

still going to be terrorism if that's what the agenda was by the

:33:39.:33:42.

perpetrator. The UK had gone for a number of years without any major

:33:43.:33:46.

attacks since 7/7 and we've had what, four in three or four months?

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Yes, this is a particularly bad period, arguely the worst since 2005

:33:54.:33:56.

when there were a lot of plots coming. There are big question marks

:33:57.:34:03.

over why is it so bad now, why is it happening one reason you could look

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at is Islamic state. Then there is the counterreaction from the far

:34:09.:34:13.

right which is either stirred up or feeding into it. The result is, as

:34:14.:34:19.

the violence gets worse, the likelihood of more attacks

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increases. It puts the Security Services under a lot of pressure.

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The Prime Minister's talked a lot about the dangers of hate online and

:34:27.:34:30.

trying to crack down on that. What is your view of that and what the

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authorities can do? The role of online in terms of driving

:34:36.:34:39.

radicalisation and extremism, it plays a role and is there in the

:34:40.:34:43.

background. In most cases we find there are real world issues

:34:44.:34:46.

happening, so it's friends, family, personal experiences and it's not

:34:47.:34:52.

just happening in somebody's bedroom while they're surfing the net.

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That's part of the problem but it's not, I would argue, the biggest

:34:56.:35:01.

part. Very good to talk to you, thank you very much. Cobra has been

:35:02.:35:07.

meeting. That is the Government's emergency committee which has been

:35:08.:35:11.

meeting or seems to be meeting pretty regularly sadly these days

:35:12.:35:14.

and we are going to hear very soon we think from the Prime Minister in

:35:15.:35:18.

Downing Street. Let's go to our assistant Political Editor, Norman

:35:19.:35:24.

Smith again. They've become almost routine, these cobra meetings? I'm

:35:25.:35:28.

afraid they have in recent weeks and months, Ben. They follow a familiar

:35:29.:35:32.

format of trying to pull together all the information that we know

:35:33.:35:36.

about these attacks and then two, I suppose, main elements, one is

:35:37.:35:39.

reassurance and the other is security. Obviously given this is

:35:40.:35:45.

the third terror attack in London in as many months, there will be a need

:35:46.:35:49.

to offer a sense of confidence that people can go about their daily

:35:50.:35:55.

lives, that business and work and everything continues as normal. At

:35:56.:36:00.

the same time, there has to be an awareness that additional security

:36:01.:36:05.

will be put in the right place. We heard from Sajid Javid saying

:36:06.:36:11.

there'll be a more visible profile jute side mosques. Amber Rudd

:36:12.:36:17.

flagging up too that there is money available to places of worship to

:36:18.:36:22.

apply for grants to improve the security around those premises. That

:36:23.:36:27.

is going to be continued. For those mosques and churches which feel for

:36:28.:36:31.

one reason or another that they are at risk. A lot of focus too I

:36:32.:36:35.

imagine will be on resources because, in the wake of the London

:36:36.:36:39.

Bridge attack, there was a lot of concern about whether cuts to police

:36:40.:36:43.

numbers had impacted on the ability of the police, forgot just to patrol

:36:44.:36:48.

the streets but to gather intelligence about potential

:36:49.:36:54.

threats. Then when we hear from the Prime Minister, interesting in a

:36:55.:36:57.

number of ways, one obviously is a lot of pressure on the Prime

:36:58.:37:00.

Minister to get the tone right, to strike the right note given that a

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good deal of the criticism she's faced in the wake of the Grenfell

:37:05.:37:09.

Tower, so there'll be an imperative on striking the right note to be

:37:10.:37:13.

suitably empathetic. Interesting too because the last time the Prime

:37:14.:37:17.

Minister spoke here in the wake of a terror attack, in the wake of London

:37:18.:37:22.

bridge, she set out a series of steps directed at Islamist extreme

:37:23.:37:25.

it. . She talked about trying to reduce the number of safe spaces for

:37:26.:37:31.

intolerance and extremism to breed and she talked about, in the public

:37:32.:37:36.

sector in particular, citing examples in schools and Local

:37:37.:37:39.

Government where she felt there would been far too much tolerance of

:37:40.:37:43.

extremism for too long. Today of course we have a different sort of

:37:44.:37:49.

terrorist attack, directed specifically at Muslims. Mrs May no

:37:50.:37:55.

doubt will want to we flect that and I imagine she will want to stress

:37:56.:37:59.

her belief that terrorism is terrorism wherever it comes from and

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whichever community it is directed against. Interesting too, Ben, to

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see whether the Prime Minister chooses to go down to Finsbury Park

:38:08.:38:16.

now we don't know. She didn't meet some of the relatives and survivors

:38:17.:38:22.

of the Grenfell Tower fire. We know Sajid Javid has been down to

:38:23.:38:32.

Finsbury Park, he said it was his first instinct to go down there.

:38:33.:38:36.

We'll see whether Mrs May goes down there. I would imagine that is

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something that is being thought through inside Number Ten.

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All right, Norman, back with you as soon as the Prime Minister emerges,

:38:49.:38:51.

of course, in treat. Let's in the meantime talk here at the scene in

:38:52.:38:55.

Finsbury Park where we know after this attack one person is dead, ten

:38:56.:38:59.

injured, two of them seriously, after the van was driven into a

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crowd of people close to a couple of mosques here. Let's talk to a member

:39:05.:39:13.

of an independent think-tank addressing issues of

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counterextremism. What are your thoughts after this terrible attack?

:39:17.:39:22.

I think the adjectives have run out, to be honest - tragic, sad, all of

:39:23.:39:29.

those. Thinking that we are still reeling from Grenfell, thinking of

:39:30.:39:33.

victims over there still waiting for answers and now everyone's turned

:39:34.:39:36.

away because of this tragedy in North London. It's a wake-up call. I

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think what today has proven is what we have been saying for years, that

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is that extremism has no colour, faith, creed. The victims aren't

:39:47.:39:52.

discriminated according to their faith, race and ethnicity and today

:39:53.:39:56.

is proof of that. Hopefully that will ring bells with the

:39:57.:40:00.

authorities, whether they be Government or the Counter-Terrorism

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strategists, whether they be the police force and the Security

:40:03.:40:07.

Forces. But it's about time that we realised once again all colours of

:40:08.:40:10.

the community come together today. That is how we can effectively fight

:40:11.:40:15.

this scourge on our society, with everyone coming totality. Once

:40:16.:40:18.

again, it's taken a tragedy such as this to bring people together, but

:40:19.:40:23.

it's a must that we bottle this and use this somehow. Is it your view

:40:24.:40:27.

that there's been rising Islamophobia in the United Kingdom

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in recent weeks and months? It's not me that is saying it, it's every

:40:31.:40:35.

single strand of study and research that's been carried out over the

:40:36.:40:38.

past ten years, that year on year there is a steep rise in

:40:39.:40:44.

Islamophobic tendencies and basically Islamophobia is racism of

:40:45.:40:49.

sorts. We manage to deal with the scourge of racism, or we thought we

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did, but this has taken on a different guise and claimed a

:40:54.:40:56.

different victim. The fight must be the same and again, the fight must

:40:57.:41:01.

be with a united front. Unfortunately for years now, where I

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feel we have gone wrong, is that we have seen the Muslim community -

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fine they are not all terrorists but there is sort of a dwell mark

:41:11.:41:15.

hanging or looming over them - that's problematic, you can't fight

:41:16.:41:21.

this fight against the fight and scourge against terrorism and

:41:22.:41:27.

extremism with a divided front. I'm hoping today is a wake-up call.

:41:28.:41:31.

Police say they'll mount extra patrols in London, particularly

:41:32.:41:34.

around the Muslim communities observing Ramadan and so on. Is that

:41:35.:41:38.

right and necessary in your view? I think it is necessary and it saddens

:41:39.:41:42.

me to say it's necessary. I would rather that we have a situation

:41:43.:41:45.

whereby communities police themselves and look after each

:41:46.:41:47.

other. I think that we have that. But in light of the recent attacks

:41:48.:41:54.

in London, as well as all the rest of the country, they've had it tough

:41:55.:41:58.

in the past few weeks, it seems like it's inevitable. Once again I think

:41:59.:42:05.

that is merely a patch, not a real treatment of the problem. The real

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treatment of the problem is to change our vision and outlook of the

:42:11.:42:12.

whole problem and how we deal with it. Very good to talk to you, thank

:42:13.:42:18.

you for your time, Anas. We are going to talk on the same

:42:19.:42:22.

theme really to Brendan Cox now, who is in our Westminster studio,

:42:23.:42:27.

husband of the late Jo Cox, the murdered MP killed a year ago.

:42:28.:42:33.

Brendan Cox, since Jo's death, so much horror and tragedy and just

:42:34.:42:37.

this here in Finsbury Park where we are now, just the latest instalment?

:42:38.:42:41.

Yes. And I think what we are seeing in all of these cases is that there

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is a handful of extremists from all different communities using all

:42:48.:42:51.

different idealogies and backgrounds to drive a hatred of the other. Our

:42:52.:42:56.

communities need to get much better at pushing that out. The hey

:42:57.:43:01.

tremendous that perve seen in the last day, the hatred that drove the

:43:02.:43:06.

attacks in Manchester and Birmingham, essentially they are the

:43:07.:43:09.

same hatred, these are people that hate the other, that don't believe

:43:10.:43:13.

that people of different backgrounds, faith and races should

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mix and what we need to show is that in fact we can, we do and, you know,

:43:18.:43:20.

over the weekend we saw tens of millions of people get together with

:43:21.:43:23.

their neighbours to celebrate the things that we have in common. We as

:43:24.:43:27.

a country I think need to get much better at noing that and showing

:43:28.:43:30.

frankly how much we do have in common.

:43:31.:43:38.

How do we do that? You are terrific in talking about this and you preach

:43:39.:43:41.

that message, but what else would you like society in general to do to

:43:42.:43:46.

promote those values? So I think it happens all the time, there are

:43:47.:43:49.

groups across the country who work on this day in day out. My son goes

:43:50.:43:54.

to the local Beaver group and, you know, there are people of all

:43:55.:43:56.

different back grounds there. I think one of the problems that we

:43:57.:44:00.

have at the moment is that the communities that bind us together,

:44:01.:44:03.

the institutions that used to bind us together, whether they're

:44:04.:44:07.

churches, pubs or working men's clubs or whatever, those are weaker

:44:08.:44:10.

than they have ever been, they don't do the job of bringing communities

:44:11.:44:15.

together in a way they once did. We have to rebuild that infrastructure

:44:16.:44:18.

that brings communities together so that events like we had over the

:44:19.:44:22.

weekend where people really did come together with their neighbours

:44:23.:44:25.

become the norm, not the exceptional. -- exception. Our kids

:44:26.:44:33.

are less likely to play out on the streets, that is an age we live in.

:44:34.:44:36.

We all worry about that but we have to do something about it. It's

:44:37.:44:40.

partly about the institutions but partly about us taking small, basic

:44:41.:44:46.

steps to knock on the door of a new neighbour when they move into the

:44:47.:44:49.

street to welcome them. Those things make a huge difference to the

:44:50.:44:52.

tightness of the communities we live in. When you live in tight, close

:44:53.:44:56.

communities, it's very hard for extremism to prosper.

:44:57.:45:04.

How worried are you that with all the recent attacks, so horrific

:45:05.:45:07.

that, we are becoming a less United kingdom, if you like, a more divided

:45:08.:45:13.

United Kingdom. My last guess was talking about relentless rises of

:45:14.:45:19.

Islamophobia? I think we are becoming an increasingly united

:45:20.:45:23.

country. I think if you look across social attitudes, we are

:45:24.:45:27.

increasingly tolerant to difference, whether that is difference on the

:45:28.:45:30.

basis of sexuality, race or religion, our country's becoming

:45:31.:45:34.

more tolerance. But what is happening, you are having a reaction

:45:35.:45:38.

against that at the extremes and I think what's happened in the last

:45:39.:45:43.

period is that those extremists, a tiny minority of our country, but

:45:44.:45:48.

they've been emboldened. The narrative that comes out of Trump

:45:49.:45:52.

and Le Pen that legitimizes that hatred means people are not growing

:45:53.:45:56.

in terms of the size of the population, but they are becoming

:45:57.:46:00.

more active and feeling that their narrative is more legitimate and

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they're feeling more confident to act on the narrative. I think this

:46:04.:46:07.

is the last gasp of the extremists, but it's not going to be something

:46:08.:46:13.

that disappears in the next few weeks or months. It's something we

:46:14.:46:17.

are going to have to endure but also to take on. Often in response to

:46:18.:46:22.

events like the attacks in Manchester or Birmingham, we ask,

:46:23.:46:27.

where did this ideaology and hey tremendous come from. In -- hatred

:46:28.:46:31.

come from. In response to ourselves as well, we need to ask ourselves

:46:32.:46:36.

the same questions. Of course, the natural human

:46:37.:46:40.

response after any attack is anger. You must have felt anger after Jo's

:46:41.:46:46.

death - how do you say to society, we need to channel that anger or,

:46:47.:46:56.

you know, somehow calm that anger? As you say, it is illegitimate human

:46:57.:47:00.

response to be angry in response to these horrific attacks. To be hugely

:47:01.:47:07.

sad about the impact it has on the family of the people affected, that

:47:08.:47:10.

is always my first thought, especially having been through what

:47:11.:47:13.

I have been through. We should not tell people not to be angry.

:47:14.:47:16.

Sometimes there is a narrative out there about respond to this with

:47:17.:47:20.

peace and love and I don't think that's true at all. I think we

:47:21.:47:27.

should be angry, the question is how we use that anger and I think we use

:47:28.:47:35.

it into microwaves. One is to make sure the security response is strong

:47:36.:47:37.

and powerful and police have resources, powers and information

:47:38.:47:39.

they need to crack down on extremists no matter where they come

:47:40.:47:48.

from. Secondly, we must use the anchor to challenge ourselves to do

:47:49.:48:21.

more to drive out the hatred. Anger is a powerful emotion, which just

:48:22.:48:23.

about how we channel it and I think there are very few of us in our

:48:24.:48:25.

lives who will come across a would-be terrorist, whether that's

:48:26.:48:27.

the type of person that might have committed last night's crime or the

:48:28.:48:28.

type of person that committed the crimes in Birmingham, Manchester or

:48:29.:48:35.

Westminster but lots of us will come across hatred and it is the hatred

:48:36.:48:41.

that breeds violence. Whether that's homophobia, Islamophobia, racism,

:48:42.:48:42.

anti-Semitism, all of us in every community can do more in our

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day-to-day conversations to drive it out. Thank you, Brendan Cox. I must

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interrupt you because the Prime Minister is speaking. This morning,

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our country work to the news of another terrorist attack on the

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streets of our capital city. The second this month, and every bit as

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sickening as those which have come before. It was an attack that once

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again targeted the ordinary and the innocent going about their daily

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lives. This time British Muslims, as they left a mosque, having broken

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their fast and prayed together at this sacred time of year. Today we

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come together as we have done before to condemn this act and state once

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again the hatred and evil of this kind will never succeed. The

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Government's emergency committee Cobra has just met and I can set out

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what we know about what happened and the steps that we are taking to

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respond. Just after 12:20am the Metropolitan Police received reports

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that a van had been driven into a crowd of people on Seven Sisters

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Road in Finsbury Park. Officers were in the immediate vicinity as the

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attack unfolded and responded within one minute. Police declared it a

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terrorist incident within eight minutes. One man was pronounced dead

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at the scene. Eight injured were taken to three separate hospitals

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while two were treated at the scene for more minor injuries. The driver

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of the van, a white man aged 48, was briefly detained by members of the

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public at the scene and then arrested by police. The early

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assessment by police is that the attacker acted alone. Our thoughts

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and prayers this morning are with the family and friends of the man

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who died, and those who were injured. On behalf of the people of

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London and the whole country I want to thank the police and emergency

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services once again for responding as they always do, with great

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professionalism and courage. Extra police resources have already been

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deployed and the police will continue to assess the security

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needs of mosques and provide any additional resources needed,

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especially during this final week before Eid, a particularly important

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time for the whole Muslim community. This was an attack on Muslims near

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their place of worship and like all terrorism in whatever form it shares

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the same fundamental goal. It seeks to drive us apart and break the

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precious bonds of solidarity and citizenship that we share in this

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country. We will not let this happen. When I stood here for the

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first time as Prime Minister last summer I spoke about our precious

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belief in the union, not just the bond between the four nations of the

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United Kingdom, but the bond between all our citizens every one of us,

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whoever we are and whether we are from. At the heart of that bond is a

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belief in the fundamental freedoms and liberties that we all cherish.

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The freedom of speech, the freedom to live how we choose, and yes, the

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freedom to practice religion in peace. This morning we have seen a

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sickening attempt to destroy those freedoms and to break those bonds of

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citizenship that define our United Kingdom. It is a reminder that

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terrorism, extremism, and hatred take many forms and our

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determination to tackle them must be the same whoever is responsible. As

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I said here two weeks ago there has been far too much tolerance of

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extremism in our country over many years, and that means extremism of

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any kind, including Islamophobia. That is why this government will act

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to stamp out extremist and hateful ideology, both across society and on

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the Internet, so it is denied a safe space to grow. It is why we will be

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reviewing our counterterrorism strategy and ensuring the police and

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security services have the powers they need. It is why we will

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establish a new commission for countering extremism as a statutory

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body to help fight hatred and extremism in the same way as we have

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fought racism, because this extremism is every bit as insidious

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and destructive to our values and our way of life and we will stop at

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nothing to defeat it. Today's attack falls at a difficult time in the

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life of this city following on from the attack on London Bridge two

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weeks ago, and of course the unimaginable tragedy of Grenfell

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Tower last week, on which I will chair another meeting of ministers

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and officials later today. But what we have seen throughout, whether in

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the heroism of the ordinary citizens who fought off the attackers at

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London Bridge, the unbreakable resolve of the residents in

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Kensington, or this morning the spirit of the community that

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apprehended this attacker, is that this is an extraordinary city of

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extraordinary people. It is home to a multitude of communities that

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together make London one of the greatest cities on earth. Diverse,

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welcoming, vibrant, compassionate, confident and determined never to

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give in to hate. These are the values that define this city. These

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are the values that define this country. These are the values that

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this government will uphold. These are the values that will prevail.

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You have been listening to the Prime Minister Theresa May condemning this

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latest terror attack in the capital saying that London is an

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extraordinary city of extraordinary people, and announcing this as an

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attack on the innocent who had been praying together at this sacred time

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of Ramadan, condemning this as an act of hatred and evil and hatred

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and evil of this kind, she said, will never succeed and she praised

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the bravery of those who had stepped into detain the driver of the van

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who had attacked people. She said one man had died, pronounced dead at

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the scene, eight others had been injured and taken to three different

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hospitals and two received minor injuries and were treated at the

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scene. Let's go to our assistant political editor who was listening

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to that. Once again the Prime Minister having to condemn another

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act of terrorism. Interesting that in her very first remarks she

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condemned this as an act of terrorism, a different type of

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terrorism, but terrorism nonetheless the same as we had seen at London

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Bridge, an attempt, she said, to divide communities and break the

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bonds that unite us as a nation. She harked back to her first speech in

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Downing Street when she talked about what unites this country, not just

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the union between the different nations but the union between

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different communities. I thought interesting too the way she went out

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of her way to extol the response of London and the virtues of London and

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the character of London, talking about the difficult times London now

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faced, not just with the recent terror attacks, but obviously

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Grenfell Tower and now this as well. I sensed Mrs May trying to catch the

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mood of the capital city, that sense of defiance and determination of

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community is adamant they will not allow these sort of events to divide

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people. Interesting too, I thought, she talked again about this

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commission to counter extremism which the government see as similar

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to the commission for racial equality in the 70s and 80s, which

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many people believe changed a lot of the arguments and perceptions around

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racism and the clear hope of this commission to counter extremism was

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that that may have the same impact in countering some of the extremist

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views from whichever quarter they come. Mrs May was clear the

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extremism of Islamophobia in her view is as dangerous as those

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perpetuated by Islamist extremists. Mrs May wrapping it all together in

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terms of the terrorist threat we face.

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Norman, for the moment, thank you, Norman Smith, assistant political

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editor. We have also heard from Jeremy Corbyn, the Labour leader,

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who was here for quite a lot of the night, saying he was shocked by this

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horrific and cruel attack. He has met Muslim community leaders and he

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will be back here later to attend prayers at Finsbury Park Mosque.

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Let's listen to what Mr Corbyn said. I know people at the mosque and in

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the community well and I came here last night to talk to the police and

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firefighters and ambulance crew who were here and the response by all

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three emergency services was very timely and very quick. The police

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managed to arrest the suspect who was driving the van and taken away

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from the area. Sadly the gentleman who died's body was on the ground,

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covered respectfully by forensic tense so that examination could take

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place. The community became very angry because in the initial stages

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it was not referred to as a terrorist attack. Do you think this

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terrorist attack is being treated as seriously as others? Well, I'm

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treating it absolutely as serious as any other attack. This was a van

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driven into a crowd of people who were attending a man who was already

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injured. They were coming home from night-time prayers in the mosque,

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it's Ramadan and it's perfectly normal. Eight people have been

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injured, some of them, I understand, extremely seriously. This is terror

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on the streets and it is terror of the people on the streets in the

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community is I'm very proud to represent and that's why I'm here

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today. That was the Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, the constituency MP

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for this area, and he has been here through the night and will be back

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here this afternoon. Let's remind you of the words of the Prime

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Minister in the last few minutes as well on this terror attack. She said

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it was a terror attack, one man died and was pronounced dead at the scene

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and others injured, taken to three different hospitals. Three seriously

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injured and two with minor injuries who were treated at the scene.

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Theresa May said it was an attack on the Muslim community and the

:00:07.:00:09.

innocent who had been praying together at this sacred time of

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Ramadan. She condemned this as an act of hatred and evil, but this

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kind of hatred and evil, she said, will never succeed. She called it a

:00:20.:00:24.

sickening attempt to destroy the freedoms to worship in the United

:00:25.:00:26.

Kingdom and to destroy the bonds that unite us. She praised the

:00:27.:00:33.

bravery of the local people who had pinned down the driver of the van, a

:00:34.:00:36.

48-year-old man has been arrested. She talked about London having

:00:37.:00:41.

suffered a succession of terror attacks force of the Westminster

:00:42.:00:46.

attack. The London Bridge attack. And now this. She said this is an

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extraordinary city of extraordinary people. Those were the words of the

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Prime Minister Theresa May a short time ago in Downing Street. You have

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been watching special coverage from where people always seem to

:01:03.:01:07.

understand what I do - Japan. I go there a lot and it's

:01:08.:01:14.

a constant source of inspiration. It gives me a chance to pull

:01:15.:01:17.

together thoughts about whether historical fiction is

:01:18.:01:21.

legitimate,

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