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This is BBC News -

I'm Jane Hill at Westminster

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where the Chancellor has

delivered his Budget,

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with money for housing,

the NHS and Brexit preparations.

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Mr Hammond said he'd

prepared a balanced budget

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which was "full of change,

full of challenges and full

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of new opportunities".

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I report today on an economy that

continues to grow, continues to

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create more jobs than ever before

and continues to confound those who

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seek to talk it down.

They call this a Budget fit for the

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future. The reality is this is a

government no longer fit for office.

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Growth forecasts for the UK

are substantially downgraded

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with output expected to be lower

over the coming years.

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On housing, Stamp Duty

for all first-time buyers in England

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and Wales will be scrapped

immediately for purchases

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up to £300,000.

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Under pressure from Labour

on Universal Credit -

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Mr Hammond delivered a £1.5 billion

package to cut the waiting

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time for payments.

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The NHS in England will receive

an extra £2.8 billion by 2020

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with £350 million provided

immediately to allow trusts

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to plan for the winter.

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The tax on tobacco continues to rise

but there's a freeze on wine,

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cider and spirits and the fuel duty

rise for both petrol

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and diesel is cancelled.

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Good afternoon from Westminster

where the Chancellor,

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Philip Hammond, has delivered

a Budget which he said would make

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the UK "fit for the future"

as an "outward looking,

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free-trading nation" once it

leaves the European Union.

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But he had to announce dramatically

downgraded growth forecasts for next

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five years from a previously

announced 2% this year, to 1.5%.

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He told the Commons that an extra

£3 billion will be set aside

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over the next two years

to prepare for Brexit.

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The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said

the Chancellor's statement

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was a "record of failure

with a forecast of more to come".

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Let's take a look at some of

the main measures in today's Budget.

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On housing, there was good news

for people in England and Wales

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wanting to purchase their first home

with news that Stamp Duty

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for first-time buyer

purchases up to £300,000

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is to be abolished immediately.

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The Chancellor promised at least

£44 billion of capital funding,

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loans and guarantees over five

years, to support house-building.

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He said the government would commit

to a long-term goal to build 300,000

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new homes a year by the mid-2020s.

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The Chancellor bowed to pressure

over Universal Credit with a £1.5

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billion package to cut

the waiting period for payments -

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and make it easier for claimants

to receive an advance.

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£2.8 billion will be

provided in extra funding

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for the NHS in England -

£350 million immediately to address

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pressures this winter.

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Mr Hammond also indicated that extra

money could be available if the cap

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on NHS pay is lifted.

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Looking at the economy

as a whole the Chancellor

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delivered some sobering news.

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Let's look at the detail.

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He said the independent Office

for Budget Responsibility had

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downgraded its forecast for economic

growth this year from 2% to 1.5%.

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He said that annual borrowing

would be £49.9 billion

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in 2017-2018, lower than forecast

in the spring Budget.

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And according to the OBR,

government debt will peak this

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year at 86.5% of GDP -

before falling to 86.4% next year.

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Forecasts suggest that it

will continue to fall

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in subsequent years.

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That's the picture for

the economy as a whole.

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Much more discussion on that

throughout the afternoon

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here at Westminster.

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Let's also take a look now at some

of the measures announced.

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There was good news for motorists

as the Chancellor announced

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that the annual rise in duty

on petrol and diesel

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will be cancelled.

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Not such good news for smokers

as tobacco products will continue

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to rise at inflation plus 2%.

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For drinkers, duty on beer,

wine, spirits and most

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ciders will be frozen.

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But duty on high-strength white

ciders will be increased

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through new legislation.

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And as predicted, railcards offering

discounted train travel

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will be extended to people

up to 30-years-old.

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Our Political Correspondent Leila

Nathoo has this report.

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Are you boxed in, Chancellor?

He has

been under pressure, but the

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Chancellor this morning was putting

on a brave face.

Any tricks in your

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red box?

Preparing to set out the

journey ahead for the Government's

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tax and spending plans, Brexit looms

large. There is not much cash in the

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kitty and there have been demands

from some of his Conservative

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colleagues for a big and bold Budget

to lift the party's post election

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gloom. In the Commons, as the

Chancellor waited to deliver his

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statement, the Prime Minister

insisted her government was putting

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the country first.

I'm optimistic about our future. I'm

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optimistic about the success we can

make of Brexit. I'm optimistic about

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the well paid jobs that will be

created. I'm optimistic about the

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homes we will build. That's

Conservatives, building a Britain

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fit for the future.

I call the Chancellor of the

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Exchequer, Philip Hammond.

Then it was Philip Hammond's turn at

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the dispatch box to set out his

strategy. Insisting the Government

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had been listening.

We understand

the frustration of families where

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real incomes are under pressure. So

at this Budget, we choose a balanced

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approach. Yes, maintaining fiscal

responsibility as we at last see our

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debt peaking. Continuing to invest

in the skills and infrastructure

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that will support the jobs of the

future. Building the homes that will

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make good on our promise to the next

generation. But crucially, also,

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helping families to cope with the

cost of living.

Despite his jovial

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tone, the Chancellor revealed that

the economy was now forecast to grow

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far slower than previously expected,

but there was big talk on housing

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aimed at young people.

With effect

from today, for all first time buyer

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purchases up to £300,000, I am

abolishing stamp duty altogether.

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And to make sure as many as possible

benefit...

To ensure this relief

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helps first-time buyers in very high

price areas like London, it will

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also be available on the first

£300,000 of the purchase price of

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properties up to £500,000.

Philip Hammond announced changes to

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Universal Credit following intense

political pressure, promising

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additional funding to cut waiting

times for the payment and to make it

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quicker to claim an advance. There

will be an extra £2.8 billion for

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the NHS in England and more cash for

schools which boost their numbers of

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maths students plus with plans to be

at the fore front of tech. Labour

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has attacked the Budget calling it a

record of failure with a forecast of

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more to come.

People were looking

for help from this Budget and they

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have been let down. Let down by a

government that like the economy

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they presided over is weak and

unstable and in need of urgent

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change. They call this a Budget fit

for the future. The reality is this

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is a government no longer fit for

office.

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This was a measured Budget. No

fireworks, no slip-ups, the

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Chancellor will hope he has done

enough to convince the country and

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his own colleagues that he is the

right man to remain in charge of the

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economy.

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I'm joined by Paul Johnson, Director

of the Institute for Fiscal Studies.

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Joining me at a blustery

Westminster. We heard that little

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piece of Philip Hammond at the

beginning of the hour saying,

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"Growth continues." But when you

look at what is to come in future

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years, the picture is not so

healthy, Paul?

Well, the forecast is

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for growth which is better than the

reverse, but it's for a lot less

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growth than we were hoping for back

in March. It is dramatic downgrade

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in forecast growth so back in March

the OBR, the official watchdog was

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saying we will get growth back to 2%

a year within two or three years and

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now it is struggling back to 1.5% a

year and that's a big difference and

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one of the reasons why the

Chancellor wasn't able to do much

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because he had no money to play

with.

Yes, if the forecasts are

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accurate then that continues for

several years to come?

Well, it

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looks like it might and the

underlying thing here is the

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productivity problem and if you look

at the figures here, it is something

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we're not going to get a pay rise

for another two years at least

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because productivity is doing badly

and growth is doing badly and

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earnings aren't rising and since

about a year ago, earnings have

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started to fall again, relative to

prices and it doesn't look like

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they're going to pick up again for

another couple of years.

There has

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been a lot of focus on housing. The

issue of intergenerational fairness

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and young people not being able to

get on the housing ladder. Can we

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pick through the announcement for

stamp duty. No stamp duty for

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first-time buyers if they are buying

a property up to £300,000. Very

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interesting though again when you

look at what the longer term impact

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of that measure could be?

In the

long run, if you get rid of all

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stamp duty then the impact is

clearly to increase house prices. It

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would be a good thing to do because

stamp duty gums up the housing

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market. Now, what the Chancellor is

doing is just getting rid of it for

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first-time buyers so that would have

an less effect on house prices and

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it will make first-time buyers in a

better position relative to second

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time and subsequent buyers, but if

you reduce the stamp duty then it

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will have some impact on house

prices, exactly how much when you do

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it for this group is hard to know.

When one extrapolates over the

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longer term, the concern is the

people who benefit are the people

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who are already homeowners, the

person selling their house benefits

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if prices are going up. So in the

long run you are not really helping

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first-time buyers much? In the

immediate future you might be?

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Because this is just for one group

of buyers, exactly what the impact

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on house prices will be, we don't

know, but it will certainly increase

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house prices to some extent and

therefore, benefit those who are

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selling their house. That doesn't

mean it is a bad change because

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stamp duty really does get in the

way of the housing market working,

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but it's not an obvious, it's not

the obvious long-term benefit to

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buyers that it might first at first

sight seem.

And the promise of money

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that we have seen, certain sums for

the NHS, some immediate and some for

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capital expenditure, given the

picture that you are painting and

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all the forecasts that we're looking

at today, there might be people

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watching this this afternoon

thinking, "Where is that money for

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the NHS actually coming from?" Is it

clear?

Two things. The amount of

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spending, the Chancellor was

promising the NHS was not

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particularly big. This will still be

a tough few years for health. But

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secondly, it is clear where it's

coming from. We're going to be

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borrowing more. So whereas just over

a year ago, Chancellor Osborne was

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promising us a surplus by 2019,

we're now going to be borrowing

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about £35 billion in 2019. So a very

big turn around and actually between

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just last March's Budget, a big

increase in borrowing since then.

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So, the Chancellor has just decided

to borrow more than he was going to

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borrow. It is just about within the

rules that he set himself. What he

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hasn't got much wiggle room left.

Fiscal rules, that famous phrase, do

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you think politicians regret having

the rules given that we are where we

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are?

They don't mind breaking them!

We have had a lot of them and most

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of them have been broken. The

Chancellor says he is on course to

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meet the ones that he has got. But

another downgrade in the growth

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forecast. Something goes wrong

around Brexit and we will be

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breaking them pretty quickly. He

also wants to, we have had yet

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another statement about when we are

going to get that famous budget

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balance. That looks tough and

unlikely to me now I have to say.

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OK, always good to hear your

analysis, Paul Johnson from the

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Institute for Fiscal Studies.

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Our Chief Political correspondent

Vicki Young is in the Central Lobby

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of the House of Commons for us.

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Yes, always a day when the House of

Commons is completely packed with

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MPs, listening to what the

Chancellor has to say and then, of

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course, trying to analyse what it

all means. Let's discuss this

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further. I am joined by some

politicians. First of all, the move

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on Universal Credit, something

Labour have been calling for

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presumably, you are pleased with

that?

It is really, really good

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news. I think it is disappointed

that he has taken so long and so

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much energy goat to this point, but

certainly some of the measures that

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are in there, it won't deal with all

the issues, because I think there

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are fundamental problems with the

system that need to be looked at,

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but it will alleviate some of the

worst outcomes of the change over to

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Universal Credit.

For you p what was the most striking

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thing that you heard the Chancellor

say today?

For me this was a Budget

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about the Brexit bite and the

productivity, growth outlooks have

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been downgraded. We are going to be

£45 billion worse off as a nation by

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2021. It is money that should be

going into public services and I was

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so disappointed to not hear that we

weren't going to raise the public

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pay cap. Our teachers are desperate

for a pay rise and our NHS workers

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and I think they will take the

Budget as a slap in the face.

Nicky

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Morgan, how do you think looking at

this, the Government, your party, do

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you think they have given up on

balancing the books?

No, not at all.

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There is an ambition for the middle

part of the next decade, but there

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is a recognition that more money is

needed in the NHS and that actually

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people have made sacrifices over the

last seven years so it is right to

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show flexibility. There is clearly a

need for more investment in housing

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and I think what was good about the

Budget was the fact we didn't hear

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Brexit mentioned all the time. It is

like Groundhog Day in Parliament, so

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hearing about technology and plans

for the future, about challenges to

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how we're going tackle the

productivity puzzle and housing, the

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stamp duty duty change was welcome.

What do you make of the NHS money?

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It is a lot that he has given to the

NHS. He is responding to more calls

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for more money to the winter crisis

and more money for investment in

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infrastructure?

Nicky is right,

Brexit wasn't mentioned a great

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deal, but what was mentioned the

cripingly slow growth in the

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country. The fact that the OBR is

expecting a far less investment from

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business to come in, that people's

real wages are down, that their

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disposable income is down and

personal debt is up. This is not a

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good picture after seven years of a

Conservative Government and it is

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worth remembering that they might be

looking to tackle the debt and the

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deficit over the next ten years, but

they said it would be paid down by

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now and they have failed repeatedly

to do that. When it comes to the

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NHS, the NHS England, Simon Stevens

was looking for £4 billion worth of

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investment to stave off a winter

crisis circumstances but deal with

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the long-term challenges around

staffing making sure we can retain

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and train staff, but they are

spending more on Brexit preparations

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than they are on the NHS which I

just think is a real tragedy and the

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public sector pay cap that the NHS

staff have been crying out for a pay

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rise and it was not announced today

and that's disappointing.

When it

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comes to housing, the holiday on

stamp duty For first-time buyers. Is

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that something the Liberal Democrats

are in favour of?

We have always

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said the answer to this is partly

house building and I was

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disappointed by actually the

ambition of the Government for its

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own house building in particular,

making sure that we have got enough

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affordable and social housing. That

was missing. What I wanted to see

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was borrowing by government at

record low levels right now so that

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the Government themselves build. In

Oxfordshire, they announced £150

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million to help with the

infrastructure. What we have

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estimated is in fact if we are going

to do 100,000 homes, we're going to

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need three times that investment.

It's nowhere near enough and my

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local residents won't be happy with

what they have seen in the Budget.

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Isn't there a problem with the stamp

duty policy because the OBR have

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said all it does is push up house

prices so it is the seller, the

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person who is on the property ladder

who gains by this sth

We will take

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evidence in the Select Committee

from the OBR next week and ask them

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about what exactly what they are

saying in their report, but I think

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the important thing is getting the

housing market moving and it is

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about getting young people on the

housing ladder and the dream of home

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ownership and I think actually it is

an important step to making housing

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more affordable for those who have

got to save for a deposit, about the

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stamp duty on top. Housing is

important for people's stake in

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society, but so is renting. Philip

Hammond said he wanted to look at

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longer tenancies which is important.

Look, we have put more than £10

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billion into the NHS already. Today

wag building on that. More money

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that the NHS asked for, but I have

firm views about Brexit, but at the

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end of the day, if it's going to

happen, we have got to make sure we

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are preparing for it.

In one

sentence, has Philip Hammond done

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enough to save his job?

I don't

think his job should have been under

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threat anyway.

Nicky Morgan, thank

you very much. The headlines will be

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about housing and of course, about

Brexit.

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Thank you very much.

The Chancellor said that getting on

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the housing lad are shouldn't be a

dream for young people, but should

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be a reality. As we been discussing,

stamp duty for all first-time buyers

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is to be abolished for any property

up to £300,000.

By continuing to

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invest in Britain's infrastructure,

skills and R & D, we will ensure the

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recovery in productivity growth

that's the key to delivering our

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vision of a stronger, fairer, more

balanced economy, and the assurance

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to the next generation of their

economic security.

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But however successful we are in

that endeavour, there is one area

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where young people today will

rightly feel concerned about their

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future prospects and that is in the

housing market. House prices are

0:20:220:20:28

increasingly out of reach for many.

It takes too long to save for a

0:20:280:20:31

deposit. And rents absorb too high a

portion of monthly income. So the

0:20:310:20:39

number of 25 to 34-year-olds owning

their own home has dropped from 59%

0:20:390:20:44

to just 38% over the last 13 years.

Put simply, successive governments

0:20:440:20:50

over decades have failed to build

enough homes to deliver the home

0:20:500:20:55

owning dream that this country has

always been proud of, or indeed to

0:20:550:21:00

meet the needs of those who rent. In

Manchester a few weeks ago, the

0:21:000:21:05

Prime Minister made a pledge to

Britain's younger generation that

0:21:050:21:08

she would dedicate her premiership

to fixing this problem and today we

0:21:080:21:14

take the next steps to delivering on

that pledge. By choosing to build.

0:21:140:21:19

We send a message to the next

generation, that getting on the

0:21:190:21:25

housing ladder is not just a dream

of your parents past, but a reality

0:21:250:21:29

for your future.

That was a large

section of the point where Philip

0:21:290:21:33

Hammond was talking about housing.

We will talk more about that in the

0:21:330:21:40

next few minutes because I will be

talking to the Mayor of London. So

0:21:400:21:44

we'll discuss that, but more

broadly, let's talk about what the

0:21:440:21:48

Budget might mean for different age

groups. We thought there was going

0:21:480:21:50

to be a lot in this about

intergenerational inequality. Let's

0:21:500:21:55

find out whether two people working

in those fields feel much has been

0:21:550:21:59

anonced for them this afternoon.

Ann-Marie Lewis joins me.

0:21:590:22:13

We will start with housing in the

sense that we heard a bit of Philip

0:22:130:22:17

Hammond talking about the stamp duty

help at the bottom end. Is it fair

0:22:170:22:21

to say that the sort of young people

you're particularly helping, I mean,

0:22:210:22:25

house buying at all, property buying

is a pipe dream for them?

0:22:250:22:29

Absolutely. And that's one of the

things that we have been really

0:22:290:22:32

concerned about because whilst

that's a great initiative with

0:22:320:22:37

abolishing stamp duty the young

people we work with haven't got the

0:22:370:22:41

deposit to begin that process. Most

are in hostels. Most are homeless.

0:22:410:22:45

So, in actual fact there is a lot of

work that needs to be done before we

0:22:450:22:48

get to that stage and I haven't

heard much about that in today's

0:22:480:22:51

Budget.

You work around issues of

homelessness in particular for

0:22:510:22:54

example. I think there is a

taskforce going to be around that.

0:22:540:22:58

Did you hear anything that

encouraged you in there regard?

I

0:22:580:23:03

mean a taskforce is great, but how

that relates in real terms to our

0:23:030:23:06

young people is really what I'm

waiting to understand. We have had

0:23:060:23:11

lots of task forces and audits

around homelessness, but there is

0:23:110:23:14

hundreds of thousands of young

people sleeping rough on the streets

0:23:140:23:17

every single day.

And what could the

Government have done more

0:23:170:23:22

specifically that might have helped

as far as your charity is concerned?

0:23:220:23:25

Well, I think there has to be wider

support around the funding and the

0:23:250:23:29

resources not only to local

authorities, but to the charity

0:23:290:23:32

sector in general and overall to

youth services. At the moment we

0:23:320:23:36

have experienced over £300 million

of cuts to youth services. That's

0:23:360:23:40

603 youth centres. There is nearly

4,000 youth workers who assist young

0:23:400:23:45

people on the streets, young people

in different settings and they have

0:23:450:23:48

lost their jobs. So, for us, there

has to be a reversal of those cuts

0:23:480:23:52

and there needs to be money put back

into the infrastructure so that we

0:23:520:23:55

can start to rebuild our centres

again and you know, we have got

0:23:550:23:59

100,000 young people that have lost

youth places as a result of the cuts

0:23:590:24:02

and it's set to get worse.

Caroline, I feel as if we heard very

0:24:020:24:10

little this lunch time that related

to people certainly of retirement

0:24:100:24:14

age. What did you take from this?

I

think I'm, maybe I missed it, but I

0:24:140:24:19

didn't hear the words older people.

I didn't hear the words pension, I

0:24:190:24:23

didn't hear the words social care.

That's the thing that worries us the

0:24:230:24:27

most. Last week the Government

announced there would be a Green

0:24:270:24:30

Paper on social care, next summer,

but we were hoping for some

0:24:300:24:36

investment in social care. Knowing

there is a paper in a year's time

0:24:360:24:40

won't help them. We think it is a

missed opportunity and

0:24:400:24:44

short-sighted.

There was some

announcements around social care in

0:24:440:24:49

March. It is your sense why it

wasn't talked about today, the NHS

0:24:490:24:52

was talked about, but not social

care?

The Government is making a

0:24:520:24:57

mistake if it thinks the money it

announced was then. The money

0:24:570:25:01

announced for the NHS wasn't enough

either. A growing older population

0:25:010:25:04

is growing demand on the NHS. It was

good to hear some more money for the

0:25:040:25:08

NHS today, but all the experts said

they needed double the amount that

0:25:080:25:12

the Government is bringing forward.

Do you, from an Age UK prospective

0:25:120:25:20

feel this increased talk about

intergenerational unfairness, is it

0:25:200:25:25

valid? Do you accept that the

Chancellor would say he is trying to

0:25:250:25:29

look at younger people at the

moment, that that is where the

0:25:290:25:33

problem lies. We know plenty of

young people are finding it so

0:25:330:25:37

difficult to get on the housing

ladder. Is that a fairness that, is

0:25:370:25:41

that something he should have done,

do you think?

I think lots of older

0:25:410:25:48

people, if they see there is more

help for younger people, they will

0:25:480:25:51

be pleased that their grandsons and

granddaughters and the people living

0:25:510:25:55

next door will get help. We live in

communities and we want everyone to

0:25:550:25:58

be getting on well. The things that

my friend here was talking about in

0:25:580:26:04

terms of problems with public

services and charities apply just as

0:26:040:26:08

much for young people.

Some of that

is tied around reduced funding to

0:26:080:26:12

local authorities?

Absolutely, yes.

All right. Caroline and Ann-Marie,

0:26:120:26:17

thank you.

Picking up on the key themes that we

0:26:170:26:29

heard from the Chancellor at lunch

time. There has been a lot of focus

0:26:290:26:33

on those announcements around

housing. Already people trying to

0:26:330:26:37

unpick just what that stamp duty

move for first-time buyers might

0:26:370:26:43

really mean. We will talk more about

environmental policies as well

0:26:430:26:48

because the Mayor of London, Sadiq

Khan has joined me. We will start

0:26:480:26:53

with housing because it is so

pertinent to London and the South

0:26:530:26:56

East, isn't it? We know about the

difficulties of young people getting

0:26:560:26:59

on the housing ladder. Do you

welcome no stamp duty for a first

0:26:590:27:03

time buyer, anything up to £300,000

a bigger sum in London?

Well, I

0:27:030:27:10

welcome any help to reduce the cost

of buying a property in London, but

0:27:100:27:14

the idea that this is enough to fix

the housing crisis beggars belief.

0:27:140:27:18

We need to be building far more

homes in London, far more genuinely

0:27:180:27:24

affordable homes and also we now

know from reading the OBR it will

0:27:240:27:29

lead to prices going up, further up

the food chain. What the Government

0:27:290:27:33

should have done today is to give

financial support to councils and

0:27:330:27:39

housing associations to build more

homes in London from now. What they

0:27:390:27:42

should have announced today was

measures, not a review, but measures

0:27:420:27:46

to make sure that we can deal with a

situation where the landowners,

0:27:460:27:52

developers who have permission and

are sitting on that land. We should

0:27:520:27:56

have had measures to help the

Londoners who are aren'ting from

0:27:560:28:00

private landlords and this

demonstrates how out-of-touch the

0:28:000:28:04

Government is with the needs of

Londoners. We needed a step change

0:28:040:28:07

and we got a drop in the ocean.

There is to be a review and that's

0:28:070:28:13

to be led by Oliver Letwin. Philip

Hammond put a number on the amount

0:28:130:28:17

of extra houses he wants to build,

but the ambition is to do so by the

0:28:170:28:22

mid-2020s, so it is a few years

away. What's going on there from

0:28:220:28:26

your prospective? Is it lack of

money? Lack of ambition, what's that

0:28:260:28:31

about? In

20092010, the amount of

money the Government spend on

0:28:310:28:37

affordable homes was double. A

simple thing the Chancellor could

0:28:370:28:40

have done was to go back to

2009/2010 levels. The private sector

0:28:400:28:46

by themselves will never build the

am of homes that we need and so, the

0:28:460:28:51

Chancellor today has confirmed that

at his most ambitious by 2025,

0:28:510:28:56

across the country, we will have

300,000 homes being built. In London

0:28:560:29:03

alone, experts say we will need

66,000 homes from the from next

0:29:030:29:07

year. We should have seen bold plans

from the Chancellor. What we have

0:29:070:29:11

got is none of that and I really

worry about the confidence

0:29:110:29:15

businesses will have knowing, no

good news in relation to

0:29:150:29:18

infrastructure for London. No good

news in relation to the homes for

0:29:180:29:22

workers who work in London and that

lack of confidence at a time of

0:29:220:29:26

Brexit is bad for London.

Exactly.

That's interesting. Is the country

0:29:260:29:31

Brexit ready? Is London Brexit ready

because there was an announcement of

0:29:310:29:35

a sum, almost a cushion, if you

like, in the lead up to Brexit, to

0:29:350:29:39

the Brexit preparations he said?

When I speak to Chief Executives,

0:29:390:29:43

investors, businesses, they want to

have confidence in our city's

0:29:430:29:47

ability to meet their ambitions. One

of the best ways of giving

0:29:470:29:50

confidence to businesses is to say

you know what, we're going to invest

0:29:500:29:54

in infrastructure. We are going to

give the green light to Crossrail 2

0:29:540:29:59

and invest in river crossings,

invest in transport links. None of

0:29:590:30:04

that today, you as an investor, or

businessman or woman are nervous

0:30:040:30:09

about the future of our city. You

want to know your staff can afford

0:30:090:30:12

to live in a great city, but when

you are told the only help you will

0:30:120:30:16

get is a contribution towards a

first time purchase doesn't go

0:30:160:30:22

meeting your ambition as a business.

You want to make sure that Londoners

0:30:220:30:25

are skilled up to do the jobs of the

future. Again, no real announcement

0:30:250:30:28

there. I worry at a time when there

is uncertainty, at a time when we

0:30:280:30:32

are told by the EU, we are going

down the road of an extreme hard

0:30:320:30:36

Brexit because of the response this

government, businesses will think,

0:30:360:30:40

we are far better off going to

Frankfurt or going to Berlin or

0:30:400:30:45

Paris. This is not me talking down

London, it is me being frustrated by

0:30:450:30:49

the Budget today. This is the most

anti-London Budget for a generation.

0:30:490:30:58

anti-London Budget for a generation.

Specifically because of Brexit?

At a

0:30:580:31:01

time

0:31:010:31:01

Specifically because of Brexit?

At a

time where we have had four

0:31:010:31:04

terrorist attacks in our city, no

announcement of extra funding for

0:31:040:31:11

the police in London. No new news in

relation to building new homes in

0:31:110:31:20

London. People have problems from

dementia to heart disease because of

0:31:200:31:23

the bad quality air, no news

relating to fixing the air

0:31:230:31:27

pollution. No real news in relation

to investing in young Londoners.

0:31:270:31:34

This was a chance for the Chancellor

to have a big, bold budget. He has

0:31:340:31:39

blown it.

Sadiq Khan, thank you very

much indeed. I would have loved a

0:31:390:31:43

bit more time, we could have talked

about the environmental issues as

0:31:430:31:48

well. Continuing reaction to

everything Philip Hammond announced

0:31:480:31:53

at lunchtime. Much more reaction,

for now just back to the studio.

0:31:530:31:59

Much more from Westminster

to come but for now,

0:31:590:32:01

back to the studio.

0:32:010:32:02

We'll be back in Westminster shortly

but first some other news.

0:32:020:32:05

The former Bosnian Serb army

commander Ratko Mladic has been

0:32:050:32:07

found guilty of genocide and crimes

against humanity during the Bosnian

0:32:070:32:10

war more than 20 years ago.

0:32:100:32:12

The 74-year-old has been

sentenced to life in prison

0:32:120:32:14

by an international court

at The Hague after a trial

0:32:140:32:16

that has lasted six years.

0:32:160:32:20

The judge said his crimes figured

amongst the most heinous

0:32:200:32:22

type known to humankind.

0:32:220:32:23

From the Hague,

Anna Holligan reports.

0:32:230:32:27

Sit down, please.

0:32:270:32:29

He was determined

to go down fighting.

0:32:290:32:32

Refusing to listen to the judge.

0:32:320:32:37

But he is no longer the most

powerful man in the room.

0:32:370:32:40

If you continue like this...

0:32:400:32:41

After 16 years as a fugitive,

Ratko Mladic couldn't

0:32:410:32:43

escape this judgment.

0:32:440:32:45

He was found guilty

of ten out of 11 charges.

0:32:450:32:51

Guilty as a member of various joint

criminal enterprises

0:32:510:32:54

of the following counts.

0:32:540:32:56

Count two, genocide.

0:32:560:33:02

Count three, persecution,

a crime against humanity.

0:33:020:33:08

Count four, extermination,

a crime against humanity.

0:33:080:33:15

Outside, survivors

travelled from Bosnia.

0:33:160:33:21

This pursuit of justice has given

them something to live for

0:33:210:33:23

after their families were destroyed.

0:33:230:33:26

Ratko Mladic personally

directed the shelling

0:33:260:33:28

of the cosmopolitan capital,

Sarajevo.

0:33:280:33:34

He was involved in selecting targets

and directed his forces away

0:33:340:33:37

from Serb neighbourhoods.

0:33:370:33:39

The siege lasted more

than three years and left

0:33:390:33:41

more than 10,000 people,

mostly civilians and

0:33:410:33:43

many children, dead.

0:33:430:33:50

Here, the burly general can be seen

reassuring the crowds

0:33:500:33:52

that they would come to no harm,

before the men and boys

0:33:520:33:55

as young as 12 were taken

to the execution sites.

0:33:550:34:01

No one can be sure exactly how many

people died in Srebrenica.

0:34:010:34:05

The mass graves were excavated

by Serb forces in an effort

0:34:050:34:08

to hide their crimes.

0:34:080:34:13

6,000 of the victims are buried

here in the place where they sought

0:34:130:34:16

protection from the UN

in what was supposed

0:34:160:34:18

to be a safe zone.

0:34:180:34:21

Ratko Mladic was the

mastermind of all of this.

0:34:210:34:31

Many of these families who travelled

here to the Hague are hoping

0:34:350:34:39

that this life sentence and the way

that Ratko Mladic acted in court

0:34:390:34:42

will mean he goes down

in history as a coward,

0:34:420:34:45

who in those final moments,

couldn't face up to his own crimes.

0:34:450:34:48

Anna Holligan, the Hague.

0:34:480:34:49

In the last hour, Zimbabwe's former

Vice-President Emmerson Mnangagwa

0:34:490:34:53

has arrived back in the country,

following Robert Mugabe's surprise

0:34:530:34:56

resignation yesterday.

0:34:560:35:01

He will be sworn in as Zimbabwe's

new head of state on Friday.

0:35:010:35:09

The BBC understands London

Metropolitan Police are

0:35:110:35:18

investigating the Hollywood star

Kevin Spacey over a second alleged

0:35:180:35:21

sexual assault. The date of the

allegation goes back to 2005, and

0:35:210:35:27

took place in Lambeth, the location

of the old Vic Theatre where Kevin

0:35:270:35:31

Spacey was artistic director.

0:35:310:35:34

The UK's information Commissioner

has expressed 'huge concerns'

0:35:340:35:36

about the ethics and policies

of the mini cab service

0:35:360:35:39

Uber after the company

admitted concealing

0:35:390:35:40

a massive security breach.

0:35:400:35:41

The breach, which took place

in October last year affected

0:35:410:35:43

57 million of Uber's customers

and drivers around the world.

0:35:430:35:53

It's emerged that Uber

paid the hackers £75,000

0:35:530:35:55

to delete the data -

which included customers

0:35:550:35:57

names, email addresses

and mobile phone numbers.

0:35:570:36:07

The American actor and 70s teen idol

David Cassidy has died aged 67.

0:36:110:36:14

He found fame in the sitcom

"The Partridge Family",

0:36:140:36:16

then enjoyed a hugely successful

music career, selling more

0:36:160:36:18

than 30 million records worldwide.

0:36:180:36:19

He was admitted to hospital

in Florida last week

0:36:190:36:21

with multiple organ failure.

0:36:210:36:24

Let's return to my colleague Jane

Hill at Westminster for some more

0:36:240:36:28

budget reaction. Welcome back to a

blustery Westminster, we will talk

0:36:280:36:32

about what it means the business,

small and large, in the next few

0:36:320:36:36

minutes, but for now let's had

backed the Jo Coburn, my colleague,

0:36:360:36:40

she has a bit more on personal

finances and I'm sure more besides

0:36:400:36:43

over in Peterborough. Thank you. We

have been gauging reaction from

0:36:430:36:49

businesses all over the afternoon

and we have been based in one of the

0:36:490:36:52

leading businesses in the country, a

leading manufacturer, Lawrence

0:36:520:36:55

David. They build and make lorry

trailers. And their business here

0:36:550:37:01

has expanded over the last few

years, but we have been discussing

0:37:010:37:05

those growth forecasts, which have

been downgraded, and how that will

0:37:050:37:09

affect businesses like Lawrence

David. There was plenty of other

0:37:090:37:12

stuff, though, in the budget,

affecting people's personal finances

0:37:120:37:16

on the one hand and also things that

the council has responsibility for.

0:37:160:37:20

He did talk to us is John Holder j,

the Conservative leader of

0:37:200:37:24

Peterborough City Council, and we

will then also talk about whether

0:37:240:37:26

Peterborough is Brexit ready with

Lesley Batchelor, who is the

0:37:260:37:31

director-general of the Institute of

and international trade. I can't

0:37:310:37:36

help but notice, because it is quite

a large badge you have, protect our

0:37:360:37:39

vital services. Did Philip Hammond

do that today?

Most certainly not.

0:37:390:37:47

Our budget has been cut by 80% and

we have another 35mm go. With the

0:37:470:37:51

extra pressures, it will amount to

£200 million to a small authority

0:37:510:37:57

like Peterborough. We have been very

innovative in finding different ways

0:37:570:38:02

to raise money and doing things

differently but we have come to the

0:38:020:38:05

end of the road on that. It does

mean if we don't get some extra

0:38:050:38:08

money then it will mean cuts in

social care and social services to

0:38:080:38:14

children, as well.

But you are

Conservative leader of this City

0:38:140:38:19

Council, have you made your feelings

known to the Chancellor?

Absolutely,

0:38:190:38:22

we have made our feelings known. We

have the MPs on our side to lobby

0:38:220:38:28

government. So we are making our

feelings known. And we have built a

0:38:280:38:36

case which I think the government

will be quite impressed with. I am

0:38:360:38:39

quite happy to lobby my own

government, because I believe we

0:38:390:38:43

have great ability here in

Peterborough. We have done it, we

0:38:430:38:45

haven't moaned about doing it, we're

just saying this is a step too far.

0:38:450:38:50

The Chancellor said he wanted a

balanced approach, there are still a

0:38:500:38:53

deficit clear, this is all his

words, and that actually anything he

0:38:530:38:57

spends the still going to be added

to borrowing. Do you accept that

0:38:570:39:00

when it comes to the issue of paying

public sector workers?

Yes, I do

0:39:000:39:04

accept that, but sometimes you do

have to bend that, and I understand

0:39:040:39:09

when government make the rules it

affects different people in

0:39:090:39:11

different ways. And I believe

because it is fairer funding we are

0:39:110:39:16

after, it needs to be fairer and you

need to look at it not in isolation.

0:39:160:39:20

Who would talk briefly before the

end about Universal Credit, but

0:39:200:39:25

perhaps one of the reasons there is

not more money being given the

0:39:250:39:28

councils like John's is because

Philip Hammond has decided to put

0:39:280:39:33

aside £3 billion in preparations for

Brexit. Is that going to help

0:39:330:39:38

Peterborough be Brexit ready?

I

think it will help the nation be

0:39:380:39:41

Brexit ready. The fact of the matter

is we need to spend a lot of money

0:39:410:39:44

on our controls, we need borders, we

need more and more staff to clear

0:39:440:39:48

goods through customs, we need more

efficient software. We need to

0:39:480:39:54

embrace of the technologies that

will help us to do this successfully

0:39:540:39:56

and efficiently and it will cost

money.

In terms of exports, how much

0:39:560:40:01

have businesses here been helped by

the depreciation of the pound?

It

0:40:010:40:06

depends which market and sector they

are working in. If you are bringing

0:40:060:40:09

in a lot of raw materials from

across Europe or the USA, a lot of

0:40:090:40:14

the Chinese deal in dollars, it will

start really impacting on your price

0:40:140:40:17

that you can charge in this country,

and again outside to the external

0:40:170:40:22

export markets.

Are you optimistic

about the opportunities that the

0:40:220:40:26

government talks about, or are you

fearful for what it might do the

0:40:260:40:29

businesses of they don't know the

shape of the deal that Brexit will

0:40:290:40:33

bring?

There is no point worrying

about the shape of the deal because

0:40:330:40:38

it will be a last-minute thing and

we have to just accept that. What I

0:40:380:40:41

am really worrying about is the fact

that businesses are not doing more

0:40:410:40:44

to find out how to do this

effectively, how international trade

0:40:440:40:49

works with the rest of the world and

what they need to understand, is far

0:40:490:40:52

as compliance and regulatory issues

that they will face.

The Chancellor

0:40:520:40:55

was very keen to emphasise help he

is giving the first time buyers with

0:40:550:41:00

his announcement on stamp duty. He

also said he was listening to the

0:41:000:41:05

concerns on Universal Credit, he has

cut that seven-day waiting time, but

0:41:050:41:10

it is still five weeks. Will that

make enough difference for the

0:41:100:41:13

people you deal with?

It won't. The

other measures the government has

0:41:130:41:17

made has put housing homelessness up

in Peter by about 200%. This will

0:41:170:41:25

probably suffer going higher. What

he ought to have done is made

0:41:250:41:30

developers develop the land they

have permission for.

Not have this

0:41:300:41:33

review.

He needs to do it because we

have a lot of land in Peterborough

0:41:330:41:38

where we could build houses for

homeless people but we can't get the

0:41:380:41:42

developers to start work.

John and

Lesley, thank you both for joining

0:41:420:41:45

me. But is it, with that it is back

to you, Jane. Thank you, Jo Coburn.

0:41:450:41:55

Let's assess what Philip Hammond's

announcements mean the businesses of

0:41:550:41:59

all sizes. Let's discuss with Ruth

Lea, Caroline

0:41:590:42:05

With me now is Carolyn Fairbairn,

the Director General of the CBI,

0:42:090:42:12

Ruth Lea, Economic Adviser

at Arbuthnot Banking Group,

0:42:120:42:13

and Mike Cherry, National Chairman

at the Federation Small Business.

0:42:130:42:16

Mike, let's talk about small

businesses, what is positive in this

0:42:160:42:18

for you today?

I think it has been

really positive to small businesses,

0:42:180:42:22

the Chancellor has clearly listen to

what we have been lobbying about,

0:42:220:42:25

firstly the possible reduction in

the VAT threshold from 85,000 down

0:42:250:42:29

to 20 6000. Given the current

economic environment in which small

0:42:290:42:36

businesses are working, there are

big challenges, so do have that

0:42:360:42:39

threat removed almost is very, very

welcome indeed.

He just didn't move

0:42:390:42:43

on that and I could sense the relief

in that sense.

And I would have been

0:42:430:42:48

a huge additional administrative

burden on the many small businesses

0:42:480:42:53

that they don't have the resources

to cope with at the moment.

0:42:530:42:55

Secondly, staircase tax,...

You are

my first guest to mention that

0:42:550:43:02

today, I like to have something new!

Rape where businesses may offer --

0:43:020:43:07

may have more than one floor in a

building service to a communal

0:43:070:43:11

staircase or lift, there was a taxi

didn't even know about. Even more

0:43:110:43:15

importantly it was retrospective,

back to 2015 in England and would

0:43:150:43:21

you believe back to 2010 in Wales.

So getting legislation in quickly

0:43:210:43:27

with hopefully cross carted for --

cross-party support is very welcome

0:43:270:43:31

indeed. And then bringing that

forward to next April, it will save

0:43:310:43:42

a further 1% earlier than business

would have paid. Very welcome. All

0:43:420:43:46

in all, a good budget for

businesses. That is the view from

0:43:460:43:50

small businesses, Caroline

Fairbairn, the CBI, what you take

0:43:500:43:55

this?

Clearly it is a pretty sombre

economic backdrop, that came over in

0:43:550:43:59

spades, which is why was

particularly important to see a good

0:43:590:44:02

budget for the economy, permitting

we did. For the short run, business

0:44:020:44:17

rates have been a big challenge for

businesses of all sizes. Anybody

0:44:170:44:23

with buildings frankly and that will

be very important. We also welcome

0:44:230:44:28

the contingency planning around

Brexit. We want to see the

0:44:280:44:32

government doing it as well so that

is very good. But the long-term is

0:44:320:44:37

very important, productivity growth

is the most important thing. To see

0:44:370:44:40

the action on skills we will have a

partnership with the TUC and the

0:44:400:44:44

government on retraining. We have

seen some real money behind that.

0:44:440:44:57

Crucially infrastructure spending

across the country. A lot of focus

0:44:570:45:02

on regional. One caveat we have,

there was a lot of talk in the

0:45:020:45:07

budget around commitment to the

metro mayors and the spending of

0:45:070:45:10

infrastructure money for the metro

mayors. We must make sure that

0:45:100:45:12

regions of the country that do not

yet have mayors do not get left

0:45:120:45:17

behind Foster

that is interesting,

the devolution point. Ruth, you

0:45:170:45:21

nodding through a lot of that, what

is your take on this?

Picking up on

0:45:210:45:26

Caroline's point on positivity, I

think the OBR was far too

0:45:260:45:31

pessimistic. Having forecast all

these increases on productivity and

0:45:310:45:34

it has not happened, they have gone

in the other direction. And the

0:45:340:45:38

growth will be incredibly weak. I

think once we have got down, and

0:45:380:45:43

deployment is about 4.3%,

effectively full employment, there

0:45:430:45:46

will be a slowdown in net

immigration. If businesses want to

0:45:460:45:49

grow they will have to push

productivity, raise their game, so I

0:45:490:45:52

think the OBR has got a little bit

too pessimistic, and the growth

0:45:520:45:57

figures look a bit too pessimistic.

The second thing is and I was wrote

0:45:570:46:01

a post about this because I had

worked out Philip Hammond as a

0:46:010:46:04

mother who never does anything that

is terribly surprisingly unusual

0:46:040:46:09

anti-surprise me.

Spreadsheet Phil.

It has wrecked all of the

0:46:090:46:15

preconceptions of the man, he has

had quite an expansionary budget,

0:46:150:46:18

and all of the smoke signals ahead

of this, that it was going to be

0:46:180:46:22

incredible cautious and careful.

Because of his policy changes, the

0:46:220:46:26

extra public spending, which I

understand for political spending

0:46:260:46:29

reasons, the net tax, more borrowing

next year, £9 billion nearly, that

0:46:290:46:37

is actually a surprise.

There is

every things you have also that I

0:46:370:46:40

would love to continue with. I am

sorry we are out of time. Much more

0:46:400:46:46

there, we have other people to talk

to, but very good to speak to you.

0:46:460:46:51

Thank you so much for your

perspectives on the budget, a degree

0:46:510:46:54

of optimism we haven't quite heard

yet, it is fair to say. We are going

0:46:540:47:00

to head to Manchester, Judith Moritz

is therefore some more reaction and

0:47:000:47:06

in particular a bit more about

housing anything.

0:47:060:47:12

Yes, housing, and how young people

in particular have reacted to this

0:47:130:47:16

budget. We are at the Manchester

Christmas markets, there is

0:47:160:47:19

something here for all ages but I

have rounded up some

0:47:190:47:24

twentysomethings to ask them what

they think. In terms of housing, I

0:47:240:47:27

have Katie and Luke, both in their

20s. Katie Kimura 28, is that right,

0:47:270:47:33

and Luke 21. The idea that

abolishing stamp duty for first-time

0:47:330:47:40

buyers up the properties up to

£300,000, does that affect you?

It

0:47:400:47:47

doesn't make any difference to me

because I would have rented, so I

0:47:470:47:50

would not have been able to save for

a mortgage or anything like that. It

0:47:500:47:54

really makes no difference.

The

concept of buying a house still

0:47:540:47:58

fills a long way off you?

Yes, I've

got a child and rent to pay, so

0:47:580:48:04

getting a mortgage for me is just

not foreseeable in the next 45

0:48:040:48:08

years.

Even the thought of stamp

Judy going away.

Makes no

0:48:080:48:13

difference, because I still have to

be of the save and pay for

0:48:130:48:16

everything else.

Luke, for you, in

terms of property ladder Kimura only

0:48:160:48:22

21, is it something that you have in

your sights at this point?

I think

0:48:220:48:28

it is more of a struggle for young

people, especially university

0:48:280:48:31

students. Especially when they leave

university, because there are such a

0:48:310:48:38

big burden and it is a lot easier to

go out of uni and go straight into a

0:48:380:48:43

house. It is definitely a hard thing

for young people. Me and myself and

0:48:430:48:47

a lot of friends of mine have ended

up being homeless for a short amount

0:48:470:48:50

of time, because it is definitely a

struggle we don't get educated

0:48:500:48:55

enough about. It is hard.

You have

touched on lots of therefore stop

0:48:550:49:02

this government has looked at

homelessness. Manchester where we

0:49:020:49:05

are is one pilot area that will

receive money to help with

0:49:050:49:08

homelessness. Is that something you

welcome, having experienced it

0:49:080:49:11

yourself?

I don't know. It is

obviously very much a mixed opinion.

0:49:110:49:19

I don't believe that there is any

changes. I have only lived in

0:49:190:49:25

Manchester for two years, and I can

just see it progressing worse and

0:49:250:49:28

worse. But it definitely is rising,

the number of students who come out

0:49:280:49:35

of university, dropped out of

university or finish university and

0:49:350:49:37

being homeless, for sure. Just

because it is such high prices

0:49:370:49:42

around the city centre. And I don't

think we are educated enough on just

0:49:420:49:49

how much of a big world it is once

you leave.

Thank you. We will move

0:49:490:49:55

over to some of the people here at

the market, a fairly pessimistic

0:49:550:49:59

view from those two

twentysomethings. We now have Sian

0:49:590:50:03

and Craig. There is lots in this

budget that the light apply to you.

0:50:030:50:08

On the homeless issue, is

homelessness, particularly

0:50:080:50:12

Manchester has been chosen as a

pilot area to see an improvement,

0:50:120:50:15

also the question about stamp duty

being abolished if you're looking to

0:50:150:50:18

buy a house, first-time buyers.

Housing and homelessness, what is

0:50:180:50:24

your feeling?

Housing Israeli

important, I can see it all around

0:50:240:50:27

the city, is getting worse. The view

on homeless people is that they are

0:50:270:50:31

scam come you can't help them, but

if we put a bit more into helping

0:50:310:50:36

the homeless, these people would be

but have a better future for

0:50:360:50:39

themselves.

In terms of abolishing

stamp Judy for first-time up to 30

0:50:390:50:44

-- up to £300,000, what is your

feeling?

I am a homeowner, Craig, my

0:50:440:50:51

partner, is not a homeowner yet. He

is self-employed, so difficult to

0:50:510:50:55

get a mortgage anyway. Whether or

not by the time we get there it is

0:50:550:51:00

still in place, we will see.

We are

out of time but the views of three

0:51:000:51:05

people who I suppose have looked at

the budget, hoping the ricin thing

0:51:050:51:08

there for them. There are

improvements they are saying but

0:51:080:51:11

they don't necessarily apply to them

right now. So for them here in

0:51:110:51:16

Manchester there is not a great deal

of optimism about what we are

0:51:160:51:19

hearing.

0:51:190:51:21

Let's discuss some of what was

announced, in terms of Scotland

0:51:250:51:29

specifically. Ian Blackford has just

joined me, SNP leader in the House

0:51:290:51:35

of Commons. Good to see you, thanks

for being here. If my eyesight

0:51:350:51:39

doesn't deceive me, an extra 2

billion to the Scottish Government?

0:51:390:51:42

That is what has been trumpeted by

the Chancellor of the Exchequer this

0:51:420:51:46

afternoon. What he didn't say in

real terms over the lifetime of the

0:51:460:51:51

parliament is another cut of 250

million because of the inflationary

0:51:510:51:55

aspects of the five-year period. We

have had a cut to a budget of 2.9

0:51:550:51:59

billion over the lifetime of the

last Parliament, so this in a sense

0:51:590:52:02

is a continuation of austerity. What

we have argued that austerity must

0:52:020:52:06

end because we're taking money out

of the public sector workers, so it

0:52:060:52:12

has been a massive missed

opportunity to make sure we are

0:52:120:52:15

investing to grow the economy, and

what we have is in real terms a cut.

0:52:150:52:23

I was picking up earlier on a lot of

positivity around the issue of

0:52:230:52:26

police, VAT funding, and that is

something you have wanted.

I will

0:52:260:52:32

give credit that at long last the

government has removed VAT from

0:52:320:52:36

Scottish fire and police, the only

two authorities in the whole of the

0:52:360:52:40

United Kingdom that were paying VAT.

It was nasty and active gifted, and

0:52:400:52:43

they had the opportunity to do a

previously -- and vindictive. What I

0:52:430:52:49

want the Chancellor now to do is to

repay as the sums for the last three

0:52:490:52:54

years, which hit it within his give

to do. It is great we have that

0:52:540:52:58

money to invest.

Let's see if you

might respond to your challenge.

0:52:580:53:08

There is a lot of talk today as you

will be aware around the housing

0:53:080:53:14

issues, very difficult times for

young people, people wanting to get

0:53:140:53:17

on the housing ladder. We'll know

about the stamp Judy move that has

0:53:170:53:21

been announced today first-time

buyers. That is only fine and Wales.

0:53:210:53:26

How can Scotland respond to that?

Could you do similarly?

We will look

0:53:260:53:36

at it but

for the first time young

people will be worse off than their

0:53:360:53:40

parents, there is a real crisis for

millennials. This budget on that

0:53:400:53:44

account and also in terms of the

general economy has misfired. The

0:53:440:53:49

Office for Budget Responsibility has

cut the forecast for GDP by 2.7%

0:53:490:53:55

over the course of the next five

years. When you get beyond the fluff

0:53:550:53:58

and bluster of the budget, the

fiscal stimulus is nothing. We are

0:53:580:54:07

already losing jobs from the UK.

1000 jobs going in London. We know

0:54:070:54:14

that a hard Brexit will harm our

economy. We believe in Scotland it

0:54:140:54:19

could cost us up to 80,000 jobs.

Today was an opportunity for the

0:54:190:54:22

Chancellor to show he could invest,

a budget for people and prosperity.

0:54:220:54:28

There was a missed opportunity

today.

0:54:280:54:30

And he very much for being with us.

We will talk a bit more in a moment

0:54:340:54:40

about public sector pay, alongside

the Chancellor's budget today

0:54:400:54:49

let's just hear a little bit about

that because a short while ago the

0:54:510:54:55

chairman of the OBR explained these

forecasts, and went through how the

0:54:550:55:01

government's tax and spend policies

have affected the economic outlook.

0:55:010:55:06

There are tax cuts, the largest are

stamp Judy relief first-time buyers

0:55:060:55:10

and inevitably another freeze in

fugitive. We estimate the stamp duty

0:55:100:55:15

-- in fuel duty. The main financial

gains will be people who own

0:55:150:55:21

property is already rather than the

first-time buyers themselves. Fifth,

0:55:210:55:24

there is a much larger number of

much smaller tax increases, which

0:55:240:55:30

include a raft of new anti-avoidance

and evasion measures focusing on

0:55:300:55:34

additional resources for HMRC, thus

a freeze on the indexation allowance

0:55:340:55:39

of corporation tax and stop

interestingly the only year in which

0:55:390:55:43

tax increases outweigh tax cuts is

in the fiscal target year of

0:55:430:55:49

2020-2021. This is the result of

delaying by a year the introduction

0:55:490:55:52

of the new capital gains tax payment

window, which boosts receipts and

0:55:520:55:57

its first year of operation. When it

was announced in Autumn Statement

0:55:570:56:01

2015, it boosted receipts in the

event target year of 2019-20.

0:56:010:56:06

Finally, the measures have indirect

effects on government borrowing that

0:56:060:56:10

reduce the deficit somewhat in most

years. Mostly because the increase

0:56:100:56:14

is in departmental spending, clearly

on pay.

Robert Orchard from the OBR.

0:56:140:56:23

Much more on all of that after 4pm,

continuing our reaction from here at

0:56:230:56:28

Westminster. We are going to pause

for a cover of mowers, we will catch

0:56:280:56:33

up with the weather frustrates

wherever you are in the country.

0:56:330:56:41

Hello. A mixed bag, some wet and

windy weather in the forecast, the

0:56:410:56:48

heaviest of

0:56:480:56:48

windy weather in the forecast, the

heaviest of that rain the north-west

0:56:480:56:50

England, parts of Wales southern

Scotland. We've got strong winds

0:56:500:56:53

across England and Wales, gusts of

up to 70 mph on exposed coast. The

0:56:530:56:59

rain has been very heavy,

particularly in the north-west.

0:56:590:57:02

There are some flood warnings in

Cumbria, this photo sent in earlier

0:57:020:57:06

by our Weather Watcher. We are

seeing these weather fronts working

0:57:060:57:10

north and east, the rain today. You

can see the isobars fairly tightly

0:57:100:57:13

packed. The best of the bright, dry

weather is certainly the south-east.

0:57:130:57:18

But as we go through rush-hour today

in particular with heavy rain and

0:57:180:57:22

strong winds, we can see some

difficult driving conditions.

0:57:220:57:26

Through this evening and overnight,

the rain easing for a time in

0:57:260:57:30

Scotland before receiving next area

of rain pushing in from the south.

0:57:300:57:33

It will turn to rain

0:57:330:57:37

some heavy bursts of rain and the

odd rumble of thunder as well,

0:57:370:57:42

temperatures in the South staying in

the double figures but a cooler

0:57:420:57:46

night come in the north, with

temperatures close to freezing.

0:57:460:57:50

Tomorrow morning there will be some

snow to low levels. Looking at

0:57:500:57:55

between two and five centimetres but

there will be more snow over higher

0:57:550:57:59

ground, greater accumulation is when

you're out over higher ground. For

0:57:590:58:04

Northern Ireland and southern

Scotland, northern England, some

0:58:040:58:06

showers that could be wintry. As we

move through England, Wales and

0:58:060:58:11

further down into the south-west: 20

brightness around but a cooler start

0:58:110:58:14

of the day tomorrow. We're just

seeing the rain clear the south-east

0:58:140:58:19

thing through the morning. As we

move through the day, the snow in

0:58:190:58:24

the North will turn to rain as it

clears its way east for Northern

0:58:240:58:29

Ireland. Still a scattering of

showers, if you showers working in

0:58:290:58:32

from Wales and to the south-west,

but a lot of dry, bright weather to

0:58:320:58:36

come and still fairly breezy,

although the winds will be slightly

0:58:360:58:39

later tomorrow. The exception to

that is the far north, which will be

0:58:390:58:43

quite windy. Temperatures at a

maximum of 14 Celsius in the

0:58:430:58:47

south-east. The move into Friday, a

cold start, touch of frost in the

0:58:470:58:52

north. A bidder brightness around

and the potential of season wintry

0:58:520:58:55

showers, holding onto some cloud.

Some cooler temperatures, backed

0:58:550:59:04

down on the single figures. A fair

amount going on in the weather at

0:59:040:59:07

the moment. Stay up-to-date on the

forecast application at our website.

0:59:070:59:13

This is BBC News, I'm

Jane Hill at Westminster

1:00:071:00:09

where the Chancellor has

delivered his Budget,

1:00:091:00:12

with money for housing,

the NHS and Brexit preparations.

1:00:121:00:16

Mr Hammond said he'd

prepared a balanced budget

1:00:161:00:18

which was "full of change,

full of challenges and full

1:00:181:00:20

of new opportunities".

1:00:211:00:22

I report today on an economy that

continues to grow, continues to

1:00:221:00:29

create more jobs than ever before

and continues to confound those who

1:00:291:00:32

seek to talk it down.

1:00:321:00:34

They call this a Budget

fit for the future.

1:00:341:00:39

The reality is this is a government

no longer fit for office.

1:00:391:00:45

Growth forecasts for the UK

are substantially downgraded

1:00:451:00:51

with output expected to be lower

over the coming years.

1:00:511:00:55

On housing, stamp duty

for all first-time buyers in England

1:00:551:00:57

and Wales will be scrapped

immediately for purchases

1:00:571:00:59

up to £300,000.

1:00:591:01:05

The Office for Budget Responsibility

says it will push house prices up.

1:01:051:01:09

Under pressure from Labour

on Universal Credit -

1:01:091:01:11

Mr Hammond delivered a £1.5 billion

package to cut the waiting

1:01:111:01:13

time for payments.

1:01:131:01:14

The NHS in England will receive

an extra £2.8 billion by 2020

1:01:141:01:17

with £350 million provided

immediately to allow trusts

1:01:171:01:19

to plan for the winter.

1:01:191:01:25

Critics are saying it is not enough.

The Chancellor promised £10 billion

1:01:251:01:33

in 2015 and delivered £4.5 billion.

If you don't minute we'll wait for

1:01:331:01:38

the small print on today's

announcement.

1:01:381:01:41

The tax on tobacco continues to rise

but there's a freeze on wine,

1:01:411:01:44

cider and spirits and the fuel duty

rise for both petrol

1:01:441:01:47

and diesel is cancelled.

1:01:471:01:57

Good afternoon from Westminster

where the Chancellor,

1:02:071:02:12

Philip Hammond, has delivered

a Budget which he said would make

1:02:121:02:20

the UK "fit for the future"

and an "outward looking,

1:02:201:02:22

free-trading nation" once it

leaves the European Union.

1:02:221:02:24

But he had to announce dramatically

downgraded growth forecasts for next

1:02:241:02:27

five years from a previously

announced 2% this year, to 1.5%.

1:02:271:02:30

He told the Commons that an extra

£3 billion will be set aside

1:02:301:02:33

over the next two years

to prepare for Brexit.

1:02:331:02:38

The Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn,

said the Chancellor's statement

1:02:381:02:40

was a "record of failure

with a forecast of more to come".

1:02:401:02:43

Let's take a look at some of

the main measures in today's Budget.

1:02:431:02:49

On housing, there was good news

for people in England and Wales

1:02:491:02:52

wanting to purchase their first home

with news that Stamp Duty

1:02:521:02:55

for first-time buyer

purchases up to £300,000

1:02:551:02:57

is to be abolished immediately.

1:02:571:02:59

The Office for Budget Responsibility

says the process will put prices up.

1:02:591:03:03

The Chancellor promised at least

£44 billion of capital funding,

1:03:031:03:07

loans and guarantees over five

years, to support house-building.

1:03:071:03:11

He said the government would commit

to a long-term goal to build 300,000

1:03:111:03:14

new homes a year by the mid-2020s.

1:03:141:03:24

The Government bowed to pressure

over Universal Credit with a £1.5

1:03:241:03:26

billion package to cut

the waiting period for payments -

1:03:261:03:29

and make it easier for claimants

to receive an advance.

1:03:291:03:31

£2.8 billion will be

provided in extra funding

1:03:311:03:33

for the NHS in England -

£350 million immediately to address

1:03:331:03:36

pressures this winter.

1:03:361:03:39

Looking at the economy

as a whole the Chancellor

1:03:391:03:41

delivered some sobering news.

1:03:411:03:43

Let's look at the detail on that.

1:03:431:03:46

He said the independent Office

for Budget Responsibility had

1:03:461:03:49

downgraded its forecast for economic

growth this year from 2% to 1.5%.

1:03:491:03:53

He said that annual borrowing

would be £49.9 billion

1:03:531:03:56

in 2017-2018, lower than forecast

in the spring Budget.

1:03:561:04:02

And according to the OBR,

government debt will peak this

1:04:021:04:06

year at 86.5% of GDP,

before falling to 86.4% next year.

1:04:061:04:10

That's the picture for

the economy as a whole.

1:04:101:04:12

Much more discussion on that

throughout the afternoon

1:04:121:04:17

here at Westminster.

1:04:171:04:19

Let's also take a look now at some

of the measures announced.

1:04:191:04:22

There was good news for motorists

as the Chancellor announced

1:04:221:04:25

that the annual rise in duty

on petrol and diesel

1:04:251:04:27

will be cancelled.

1:04:271:04:28

Not such good news for smokers

as tobacco products will continue

1:04:281:04:31

to rise at inflation plus 2%.

1:04:311:04:34

For drinkers, duty on beer,

wine, spirits and most

1:04:341:04:36

ciders will be frozen.

1:04:361:04:46

Our Political Correspondent Leila

Nathoo has this report.

1:04:461:04:49

Are you boxed in, Chancellor?

1:04:491:04:53

He has been under pressure,

but the Chancellor this morning

1:04:531:04:56

was putting on a brave face.

1:04:561:04:57

Any tricks in your red box?

1:04:571:05:00

Preparing to set out the journey

ahead for the Government's

1:05:001:05:06

tax and spending plans.

1:05:061:05:07

Brexit looms large.

1:05:071:05:10

There's not much cash in the kitty

and there have been demands

1:05:101:05:13

from some of his Conservative

colleagues for a big and bold

1:05:131:05:15

Budget to lift the party's

post election gloom.

1:05:151:05:20

In the Commons, as the Chancellor

waited to deliver his statement,

1:05:201:05:22

the Prime Minister insisted her

government was putting

1:05:221:05:24

the country first.

1:05:241:05:25

I'm optimistic about our future.

1:05:251:05:27

I'm optimistic about the success

we can make of Brexit.

1:05:271:05:34

I'm optimistic about the well-paid

jobs that will be created.

1:05:341:05:37

I'm optimistic about

the homes we will build.

1:05:371:05:39

That's Conservatives, building

a Britain fit for the future.

1:05:391:05:47

I now call the Chancellor

of the Exchequer, Philip Hammond.

1:05:471:05:51

Then it was Philip Hammond's

turn at the dispatch box

1:05:511:05:54

to set out his strategy.

1:05:541:05:56

Insisting the Government

had been listening.

1:05:561:05:58

We understand the frustration

of families where real

1:05:581:06:00

incomes are under pressure.

1:06:001:06:02

So at this Budget, we choose

a balanced approach.

1:06:021:06:06

Yes, maintaining fiscal

responsibility as we at last

1:06:061:06:09

see our debt peaking.

1:06:091:06:15

Continuing to invest in the skills

and infrastructure that will support

1:06:151:06:17

the jobs of the future.

1:06:181:06:22

Building the homes that

will make good on our promise

1:06:221:06:24

to the next generation.

1:06:241:06:27

But crucially, also,

helping families to cope

1:06:271:06:29

with the cost of living.

1:06:291:06:39

There was plenty of jokes.

1:06:421:06:54

Then a headline on housing in

England and Wales.

For all first

1:06:551:06:59

time buyer purchases up to £300,000

I am abolishing stamp duty

1:06:591:07:03

altogether.

Philip Hammond announced changes to

1:07:031:07:09

Universal Credit following intense

political pressure, promising

1:07:091:07:12

additional funding to cut waiting

times for the payment and to make it

1:07:121:07:16

quicker to claim advance. There will

be an extra £2.8 billion for the NHS

1:07:161:07:20

in England. And more cash for

schools which boost their numbers of

1:07:201:07:25

maths students. Plus with plans to

be at the fore front of tech, the

1:07:251:07:29

Chancellor wants driverless cars on

the country's roads by 2021. But

1:07:291:07:35

Labour's attacked the Budget calling

it a record of failure with a

1:07:351:07:39

forecast of more to come.

People

were looking for help from this

1:07:391:07:43

Budget and they have been let down.

Let down by a government that like

1:07:431:07:47

the economy they presided over, is

weak, and unstible and in need of

1:07:471:07:52

urgent change. They call this a

Budget fit for the future. The

1:07:521:07:58

reality is, this is a government no

longer fit for office.

1:07:581:08:04

This was a measured Budget. No

fireworks, no slip-ups, the

1:08:041:08:08

Chancellor will hope he has done

enough to convince the country and

1:08:081:08:12

his own colleagues that he is the

right man to remain in charge of the

1:08:121:08:15

economy.

1:08:151:08:21

With me now is the Shadow

Chancellor John McDonnell.

1:08:211:08:25

There is one for the NHS. There is

help for first-time buyers. Nurses

1:08:251:08:30

are likely to get a pay rise and

there is lots to be positive about?

1:08:301:08:35

The money for the NHS, Simon Stevens

the Chief Executive said he needs £4

1:08:351:08:42

million now. So it goes nowhere near

what's needed. He said if we don't

1:08:421:08:49

get the money, there will be five

million on waiting listsment it is

1:08:491:08:52

unacceptable. In terms of education,

nothing. 5,000 headteachers wrote to

1:08:521:08:58

the Chancellor and said we need to

end the education cuts and it is the

1:08:581:09:02

first time we have had per capita

cuts in education and nothing. For

1:09:021:09:07

the nurses, all they got let's talk

about and come back in the New Year.

1:09:071:09:10

There was no real serious

commitments here today. It was like

1:09:101:09:14

a Chancellor or a government that's

in office, but not in power. They

1:09:141:09:16

didn't seem to be capable of doing

anything and the bar that was set

1:09:161:09:21

for the Chancellor, was we were told

this would be a revolutionary Budget

1:09:211:09:27

or major change, the bar was set

where it was don't mess up. That's

1:09:271:09:33

all he has done. A nothing Budget

really.

A few minutes ago I was

1:09:331:09:38

talking to the Federation of Small

Businesses and the CBI and they were

1:09:381:09:42

both remarkably upbeat. The

Federation of Small Businesses says

1:09:421:09:45

there is plenty in here for to us

get our teeth into and we are

1:09:451:09:48

pleased with what he has announced?

They are trying to look on the

1:09:481:09:52

bright side. I can understand that,

but take stamp duty, cutting stamp

1:09:521:09:55

duty, whilst you are not building

houses on any scale, means prices

1:09:551:09:58

will go up. And it looks as though

the figures that the Government have

1:09:581:10:02

put in for the stamp duty cut were a

small number, a few thousand people

1:10:021:10:08

at best. On the housing, it looks as

if most of it is that

1:10:081:10:12

reannouncements rather than any

rebuilds.

There was a commitment to

1:10:121:10:16

build many more houses by the

mid-2020s.

He is aiming for 300,000

1:10:161:10:21

by 2025. All of this today was about

something projected for the future

1:10:211:10:25

and remember when we had starter

homes announced a few years ago,

1:10:251:10:29

200,000, not a single one has been

built. So, you will pardon me if I'm

1:10:291:10:36

sceptical about the announcements

today.

There is a housing review and

1:10:361:10:41

Oliver Letwin will be reviewing that

It is all jam tomorrow and I can't

1:10:411:10:44

see anything realistic coming out of

this Budget today. That will affect

1:10:441:10:47

the housing crisis that he have

with' got. The crisis in education,

1:10:471:10:51

the crisis in our NHS and do you

know one of the things that was

1:10:511:10:54

missing today was local councils

have been saying vulnerable

1:10:541:10:56

children, they need to £2 billion to

protect our children. Not a penny.

1:10:561:11:01

What would you doing differently?

How would you improve things as you

1:11:011:11:04

would wish them to be improved?

Well, we set out in our manifesto at

1:11:041:11:08

the election and in the grey book

that costed our programme. The first

1:11:081:11:11

thing we would do is stop giving

away the tax cuts to the

1:11:111:11:14

corporations and the rich. Over the

next Parliament £76 billion is

1:11:141:11:18

promised to the corporations and to

the rich in tax cuts. We would stop

1:11:181:11:23

that and invest that in the NHS and

our public services and giving

1:11:231:11:27

people a proper pay rise.

But is

that money there? Have you managed

1:11:271:11:32

to convince the electorate that you

can pay for all the ambitious

1:11:321:11:35

projects?

Well, it is interesting

I'm quoting at you government

1:11:351:11:39

figures. They are the figures that

the Government has put in giving the

1:11:391:11:42

money away to the corporations and

the rich. I can use those tax cuts

1:11:421:11:46

to invest in public services. Have I

convinced people? Increasingly yes.

1:11:461:11:50

We are ahead in the opinion polls

and even on economic...

Not on

1:11:501:11:56

trust?

Let me say that, yesterday

there was one poll where we are

1:11:561:12:01

almost neck and neck and that's the

first time the history of a party in

1:12:011:12:06

opposition at this scale, without a

major economic crisis when the

1:12:061:12:09

Government is in power.

OK, almost

neck and neck, but by the same token

1:12:091:12:13

there will be people watching this

saying it is a weak government. This

1:12:131:12:16

is a government that reduced its

majority at a general election it

1:12:161:12:19

didn't need to call actually, you

should be way ahead?

No. Oppositions

1:12:191:12:25

have never been way ahead unless

there was a huge economic crash and

1:12:251:12:28

that's what happened after ERM in

the 1990s and that's what happened

1:12:281:12:35

after the banking crash in 2007,

2008. We are steadily surely, but

1:12:351:12:39

surely, demonstrating an alternative

to this government and gaining

1:12:391:12:44

confidence in the electorate as we

showed in the general election when

1:12:441:12:48

everyone said we would be wiped out

and now we are ahead in the polls

1:12:481:12:52

overall and now we are gaining on

economic credibility and this Budget

1:12:521:12:56

today will assist us in

demonstrating that there is an

1:12:561:12:58

alternative to a do nothing Budget

like today.

1:12:581:13:02

£3 billion set aside for Brexit

preparations. Is the country Brexit

1:13:021:13:07

ready after today's Budget?

Well, we

won't be Brexit ready until we get a

1:13:071:13:11

negotiated deal. This government

seems incapable of achieving that

1:13:111:13:14

deal and the reason for that is

because they are so split within the

1:13:141:13:18

Cabinet and within the Tory Party.

Now what we are saying to them, you

1:13:181:13:21

need to start negotiating

effectively and if you are not

1:13:211:13:23

willing to do that, we will.

What would you be doing right now if

1:13:231:13:30

you were in number 11. How would you

be dealing with the for example the

1:13:301:13:35

OBR growth forecast now? I have

interviewed some who said they think

1:13:351:13:39

the OBR is being too pessimistic,

but the forecast is what it is and

1:13:391:13:43

it is sliding down. How would you

tackle that?

In the past the OBR has

1:13:431:13:53

been pest mystic rather than

optimistic. We would ensure we

1:13:531:13:58

invest in our economy and ensure we

have a fair taxation system and pay

1:13:581:14:01

for our public services. If you

invest in the economy, you will grow

1:14:011:14:07

the public services.

An increase in

taxes?

No, what we said is end the

1:14:071:14:11

tax to the rich and the corporation.

Yes, an increase in taxes for the

1:14:111:14:15

top 5%, that's all the richest 5%

and then at the same time, we don't

1:14:151:14:20

borrow for day-to-day expenditure,

but we borrow to invest and that

1:14:201:14:23

means investing in our

infrastructure and the reason we

1:14:231:14:26

have got a productivity crisis is

because for seven years we haven't

1:14:261:14:29

invested in the same way our

economic international competitors

1:14:291:14:33

have.

John McDonnell, Shadow

Chancellor, thank you very much

1:14:331:14:36

indeed for joining us. Thank you

very much for your responses.

1:14:361:14:41

Let's head inside and Vicki Young is

in the lobby. This is where MPs are

1:14:411:14:48

digesting what they have heard. You

can hear the headlines, and then

1:14:481:14:51

people want to know and read about

the details. Let's discuss this

1:14:511:14:57

more. Ism joined by Oliver Letwin

from the Conservative Party. Oliver

1:14:571:15:06

Letwin, what is the purpose of this

review? It is about trying it get

1:15:061:15:11

more houses built?

It is about

trying to find out why there are

1:15:111:15:14

large numbers of planning

permissions given for homes that

1:15:141:15:17

haven't been built yet. Why the

developers are sitting there

1:15:171:15:21

developing only parts of sites which

they have got permission and this

1:15:211:15:23

has been a knotty issue for a long

time. We're going to try and find

1:15:231:15:26

out why it really is happening and

if it's something we can do

1:15:261:15:29

something about then the Government

will take action to do something

1:15:291:15:31

about it so we get some more homes

built rather than having people

1:15:311:15:37

watching other sites getting

planning permission while a big site

1:15:371:15:39

is sitting there empty.

You think

that housing is an issue which the

1:15:391:15:44

Government should be more

interventionist on?

It has to be,

1:15:441:15:51

cars, you don't hear about

affordable hamburgers or affordable

1:15:511:15:56

cars because supply and demand

match. The reason they don't match

1:15:561:15:59

in the housing market is because we

have a massive planning system and

1:15:591:16:03

we have got to make sure it works

and when planning permission is

1:16:031:16:06

given the houses are built.

Caroline

Lucas, what do you make of the

1:16:061:16:10

housing announcements?

I am not sure

we need a review frankly. There is

1:16:101:16:14

no great mystery to the fact that we

know developers will sit on land

1:16:141:16:18

while it speculates, that's the

trouble with our property market so

1:16:181:16:21

many people are in the for the

speculation. What I was hoping to

1:16:211:16:26

see was a serious investment in

affordable housing and we also need

1:16:261:16:29

to underline the word affordable

because unfortunately under this

1:16:291:16:33

government they have redefined

affordable to mean 80% of market

1:16:331:16:37

rent. For my constituents in

Brighton, 80% of market rate is not

1:16:371:16:42

affordable. So that's what we needed

to see.

Jonathan Edwards as far as

1:16:421:16:46

the stamp duty help for first-time

buyers goes, it will apply to Wales

1:16:461:16:52

for a short amount of time?

With

this announcement, it means six

1:16:521:16:58

months that this policy will apply

and the Welsh government will be

1:16:581:17:01

able to introduce their own

policies. But the big issue for

1:17:011:17:06

Wales, of course, we saw Crossrail 2

mooted, the Milton Keynes

1:17:061:17:12

development, and nothing

specifically for Wales. They've

1:17:121:17:15

scrapped electrifying the line to

Swansea, the tidal lagoon in Swansea

1:17:151:17:20

wasn't mentioned. In the British

Government isn't going to invest in

1:17:201:17:24

Wales, why don't they give us the

tools to get on with it ourselves?

1:17:241:17:29

£3 billion so we are ready for

Brexit?

Well, I think this was the

1:17:291:17:34

whole context for this Budget and

seeing yet more money having to be

1:17:341:17:37

set aside for Brexit I think is a

distraction. We would love to see it

1:17:371:17:41

being turned into public services.

Frankly, what I would love to have

1:17:411:17:45

seen and heard was a policy that

would have kept us in the single

1:17:451:17:51

market and the customs union, that's

to make sure our economy doesn't

1:17:511:17:55

take a hit. There is a crisis out

there this terms of austerity and

1:17:551:17:59

this Budget did nothing to tackle

that. On schools, I have got

1:17:591:18:03

headteachers who are desperate in

Brighton because they are having to

1:18:031:18:09

make teachers redundant and Teaching

Assistants redundant and cutting

1:18:091:18:14

mental health support to students.

Why are we not able to fund our

1:18:141:18:16

schools properly? That's a real

indictment on the Government

Has

1:18:161:18:22

your government given up on

balancing the books?

He is spending

1:18:221:18:25

money on the NHS which needed it and

that's a good thing. But if you look

1:18:251:18:32

at the independent OBR forecast what

you see is that this Budget sets us

1:18:321:18:35

on a track to reduce the deficit to

1% of GDP by the time we get to the

1:18:351:18:41

end of the Parliament and that's a

balanced Budget and it needs to be

1:18:411:18:45

because we don't know what shocks

will arrive in the world after 2020.

1:18:451:18:48

We must leave it there, but a lot to

discuss with Philip Hammond,

1:18:481:18:52

speaking for more than an hour, but

I think, you know, housing mrb the

1:18:521:18:57

headlines of the day -- will be the

headlines of the day for the

1:18:571:19:00

Government.

Let's talk about the NHS. The

1:19:001:19:06

Chancellor announced day,al funding

for the Health Service in England.

1:19:061:19:11

Let's hear a little bit of what he

said about that.

First, we will

1:19:111:19:16

deliver an additional £10 billion

package of capital investment in

1:19:161:19:20

front line services over the course

of this Parliament. To support the

1:19:201:19:26

sustainability and transformation

plans which will make our NHS more

1:19:261:19:29

resilient. Investing for an NHS fit

for the future. But we also

1:19:291:19:35

recognise that the NHS is under

pressure right now. I am therefore

1:19:351:19:41

exceptionally and outside the

Spending Review process making an

1:19:411:19:45

additional commitment of resource

funding of £2.8 billion to the NHS

1:19:451:19:50

in England. £350 million immediately

to allow trusts to plan for this

1:19:501:19:56

winter. £1.6 billion in 2018/2019

with the balance in 1920, taking the

1:19:561:20:04

extra resource into the NHS next

year to £3.75 billion in total.

1:20:041:20:19

Meaning Mr Deputy Speaker, meaning

that our NHS will receive a £7.5

1:20:191:20:23

billion increase to its resource

Budget over this year and next.

1:20:231:20:27

So those are the figures that were

announced. Let's find out what the

1:20:271:20:32

Director of Policy at NHS providers

makes of them. Simon Stevens, the

1:20:321:20:37

head of the NHS in England wanted

the figure of £4 billion. What do

1:20:371:20:40

you make of what was announced

there?

I think what we have seen

1:20:401:20:44

today is an announcement which is

less than we think the NHS needs,

1:20:441:20:47

but it's more than we expected given

all the chatter around the Budget

1:20:471:20:50

over the last week or so. I think

what we have got to remember here is

1:20:501:20:54

that the NHS as a whole is under

huge pressure. So this isn't just

1:20:541:20:58

about hospitals and waiting times,

it's about mental health services,

1:20:581:21:02

it's about community services, it's

about Ambulance Services, so, it's

1:21:021:21:05

about the whole package and how we

support them and what we do know is

1:21:051:21:10

that with the level of additional

funding available, I think, what we

1:21:101:21:14

will see is the NHS struggling to

maintain and improve the quality of

1:21:141:21:21

the service it provides.

The bottom

line is the figure from Simon

1:21:211:21:25

Stevens, he says given the demand

and our expectation, all of us play

1:21:251:21:28

a part in this, that's the figure

that's needed?

There are many

1:21:281:21:32

different opinions on the figures

that are needed and think-tanks have

1:21:321:21:35

come out with a figure he signed up,

but it is really important to

1:21:351:21:38

remember that we do need a

substantial investment in the NHS.

1:21:381:21:41

It's not just about revenue

investment, ie the day-to-day

1:21:411:21:45

running costs, but it's about

capital investment as well. There

1:21:451:21:48

was some announcement around that. I

think we need to pick underneath the

1:21:481:21:52

detail of that to see what that

really means.

I think it was £10

1:21:521:21:56

billion on capital, for capital

spending?

This is about what we

1:21:561:21:59

spend on the bricks and mortar, and

things like IT. What we are seeing

1:21:591:22:08

is, I think, £3 billion of

additional investment over five

1:22:081:22:12

years, but also, money from land

sales over time as well. So it's not

1:22:121:22:16

all new money. It will come from

land sales which is already in

1:22:161:22:20

property that's already in the NHS.

It's really, really important that

1:22:201:22:23

we have that as well because all

while the estate of the NHS

1:22:231:22:28

deteriorates then obviously that

impacts on the quality of service

1:22:281:22:30

that we can provide. It's a whole

package of measures there that we

1:22:301:22:34

need to see investment in.

There is

some movement on pay specifically

1:22:341:22:38

for nurses. We don't have all the

detail on that, but your thoughts on

1:22:381:22:42

what we know so far?

So what we know

so far the Chancellor has said that

1:22:421:22:47

the lifting of the pay cap for

nurses and other what's called

1:22:471:22:52

Agenda for Change staff, other

health care professionals will be

1:22:521:22:55

funded by the Government. This is

very welcome. We were, we were

1:22:551:22:59

worried that what might happen is

that that came out of existing

1:22:591:23:02

budgets for the NHS. The Government

has said that they will give new

1:23:021:23:06

money for that subject to what the

pay review body which is an

1:23:061:23:10

independent body which listens to

evidence says about what the level

1:23:101:23:12

of pay should be for nurses and

other health care staff, but yes

1:23:121:23:15

that is a very welcome announcement

and we need it for recruitment and

1:23:151:23:19

retention of nurses and other staff.

It is vital.

1:23:191:23:24

Thank you very much indeed.

Doubtless more analysis of what it

1:23:241:23:30

means for the NHS over the course of

the day. Let's talk about housing as

1:23:301:23:34

well. The Chancellor said that

getting on to the housing ladder

1:23:341:23:37

shouldn't just be a dream for young

people, but should be a reality for

1:23:371:23:42

their future. He announce that had

stamp duty for all first-time buyers

1:23:421:23:46

is being abolished for any property

worth up to £300,000.

1:23:461:23:52

By continuing to invest in Britain's

infrastructure, skills, and R & D,

1:23:521:23:57

we will ensure the recovery and

productivity growth that is the key

1:23:571:24:01

to delivering our vision of a

stronger, fairer, more balanced

1:24:011:24:05

economy and the assurance to the

next generation of their economic

1:24:051:24:09

security.

But however successful we are in

1:24:091:24:13

that endeavour, there is one area

where young people today will

1:24:131:24:17

rightly feel concerned about their

future prospects and that is in the

1:24:171:24:21

housing market. House prices are

increasingly out of reach for many.

1:24:211:24:26

It takes too long to save for a

deposit and rents absorb too high a

1:24:261:24:32

portion of monthly income. So the

number of 25 to 34-year-olds owning

1:24:321:24:38

their own home has dropped from 59%

to just 38% over the last 13 years.

1:24:381:24:45

Put simply, successive governments

over decades have failed to build

1:24:451:24:50

enough homes to deliver the home

owning dream that this country has

1:24:501:24:53

always been proud of or indeed, to

meet the needs of those who rent. In

1:24:531:24:59

Manchester a few weeks ago, the

Prime Minister made a pledge to

1:24:591:25:03

Britain's younger generation that

she would dedicate her premiership

1:25:031:25:07

to fixing this problem and today we

take the next steps to delivering on

1:25:071:25:12

that pledge. By choosing to build.

We send a message to the next

1:25:121:25:18

generation that getting on the

housing ladder is not just a dream

1:25:181:25:21

of your parents past, but a reality

for your future.

1:25:211:25:28

So again, a little of the part of

the announcement about housing.

1:25:281:25:34

Let's discuss that. Joanne Fry has

joined me. The CEO of Pocket Living

1:25:341:25:49

has joined me. A warm welcome to all

of you tonight. Thank you very much.

1:25:491:25:53

Mark, halfs positive. What do you

take away from the Budget that's

1:25:531:25:57

positive for you?

Two things. For

the first time buyer the stamp duty

1:25:571:26:01

decision really does make a

difference. If you're buying a home

1:26:011:26:04

at £300,000 or less, with Help To

Buy, you would have had to pay

1:26:041:26:08

£15,000 deposit. So if you are not

having to pay stamp duty, you are

1:26:081:26:14

saiflg £5,000. That's a meaningful

difference. Homes England will make

1:26:141:26:17

a big difference. It is the first

time we have seen government trying

1:26:171:26:21

to integrate the complexity of

public land of planning and of

1:26:211:26:25

delivery and that's a good sign.

On

the first time buyer point, we are

1:26:251:26:30

hearing the forecast that actually

after the initial flurry, it

1:26:301:26:34

benefits someone who is already a

homeowner because it becomes

1:26:341:26:39

inflationary over the longer term?

Yes, I think that's right. It is a

1:26:391:26:43

real risk that actually the change

this stamp duty will simply result

1:26:431:26:48

in higher prices and there is

evidence of that in the past. What I

1:26:481:26:51

would say about the Budget is that

it is a move in the right direction

1:26:511:26:55

on some key issues. The question is,

are the measures adequate to the

1:26:551:26:59

challenge that we face in this

country? I think that's a question

1:26:591:27:02

that where the jury is still out.

Because the target for house

1:27:021:27:07

building, even trying to get to the

point that most charities and

1:27:071:27:10

authorities on this say is needed,

somewhere between 250,000 and

1:27:101:27:15

300,000, that Green Party is not

until the mid-2020s.

Well, it isn't,

1:27:151:27:20

we are talking about 250 until the

end of this Parliament. It is not

1:27:201:27:24

£44 billion of new money, quite a

lot of that is already in the

1:27:241:27:27

programme. So there is some new

money, some new guarantees, but I

1:27:271:27:32

think the area that's most lacking

is the commitment to new social

1:27:321:27:36

housing and in particular, the role

of local authorities and indeed,

1:27:361:27:41

housing associations like Peabody

where we think we can do more than

1:27:411:27:44

we're doing at the moment.

You could

do more if you had the funding?

You

1:27:441:27:49

if the funding and the land and land

is a crucial factor here. We need

1:27:491:27:54

land to build on and we need to

unlock sites across the country to

1:27:541:27:58

build the housing that's needed. The

key point is even if we build more

1:27:581:28:03

houses for sale, we will still see

prices high. So, we have to build

1:28:031:28:09

affordable, social housing at the

same time. The Government have

1:28:091:28:12

recognised that. I don't think they

have gone far enough yet.

Joanne,

1:28:121:28:16

you're nodding.

I agree. This

announcement about building the

1:28:161:28:21

300,000 more homes that we need each

year, but where the homes going to

1:28:211:28:25

be? Are they going to be in the

areas of most need? Are they going

1:28:251:28:28

to be affordable? How are we going

to ensure that? And without lifting

1:28:281:28:35

the cap on council borrowing, how

are councils going to fit into this

1:28:351:28:39

picture and provide as you say more

social housing?

Yes, have any of you

1:28:391:28:45

perhaps, but is there any more

clarity around the role that housing

1:28:451:28:49

associations and councils can play

here? This has been a growing

1:28:491:28:52

problem. We have been talking about

this for many years now and there

1:28:521:28:56

doesn't seem to be any movement on

that.

There is a recognition that

1:28:561:29:00

there is a role for housing

associations and local authorities.

1:29:001:29:04

So, the Government do say we need

more housing of affordable type. But

1:29:041:29:10

I think, they really could have got

this going with rocket boosters had

1:29:101:29:13

they given local authorities the

powers to borrow. In the end they

1:29:131:29:17

have given them £1 billion to bid

for. Welcome because it's a step in

1:29:171:29:22

the right direction, but question

mark, not really enough.

For example

1:29:221:29:27

the Government took the housing

association borrow ago you have the

1:29:271:29:31

budget sheet so that doesn't appear

as public sector debt.

Yes.

If they

1:29:311:29:35

had done the same thing for councils

then we would have more freedom and

1:29:351:29:39

we would be able to contribute a lot

more to this.

1:29:391:29:43

The slight problem with all this,

you are always looking for

1:29:431:29:45

government to come up with a mixed

balance diet of initiatives to help

1:29:451:29:50

lots of people in society engage

with housing and one of the problems

1:29:501:29:53

that we have in the housing market

in the UK it is a po parised debate

1:29:531:29:59

between social housing and open

market housing and one of the things

1:29:591:30:01

the Government is trying to say and

I think they're right to do so,

1:30:011:30:04

there is a large middle market of

people who are squeezed out and they

1:30:041:30:07

also need some priority. So we

shouldn't just fall back upon the

1:30:071:30:14

old debate of social versus private

housing.

They are squeezed out

1:30:141:30:20

because property is unaffordable.

The private rented sector has

1:30:201:30:23

doubled in the last decade. The

Government have moved to a more

1:30:231:30:26

balanced approach. That's welcome.

The question is have they recognised

1:30:261:30:30

how much more housing associations

and local authorities can contribute

1:30:301:30:35

to their number, 250 to 300,000 and

I think that's where there is more

1:30:351:30:39

to do.

I aGreen Paper.

There is more

to do in terms of housing need. We

1:30:391:30:45

haven't seen how to ease pressures

and for people who are living in the

1:30:451:30:52

private rented sector.

1:30:521:30:56

I'm sorry begun to wonder because

there were so much more to discuss.

1:30:571:31:03

Thank you so much for being with us

here this evening. A number of times

1:31:031:31:08

this evening throughout his speech

1:31:081:31:09

this evening throughout his speech

the Chancellor referred to his

1:31:091:31:10

vision of the future, he said he

wanted young people growing up today

1:31:101:31:13

to have a sense of boundless

opportunity.

We are listening, and

1:31:131:31:20

we are understand the frustration of

families were real incomes are under

1:31:201:31:24

pressure. At this budget we choose a

balanced approach. Yes, maintaining

1:31:241:31:30

fiscal responsibility as we last see

our debt Peking.

LAUGHTER

1:31:301:31:42

Continuing

building the homes that

will make good on our promise to the

1:31:421:31:48

next generation but crucially also

helping families to cope with the

1:31:481:31:51

cost of living. As we invest in our

country's future, I have a clear

1:31:511:31:59

vision of what that global Britain

looks like. A prosperous and

1:31:591:32:03

inclusive economy. Where everybody

has the opportunity to shine. Where

1:32:031:32:10

ever in these islands they live and

whatever their background. Where

1:32:101:32:15

talent and hard work are rewarded,

where the dream of home ownership is

1:32:151:32:20

a reality for all generations. A hub

of enterprise and innovation, a

1:32:201:32:27

beacon of creativity, a civilised

and tolerant place that cares for

1:32:271:32:30

the vulnerable and nurtures the

talented. An outward looking free

1:32:301:32:37

trading nation, a force for good in

the world.

1:32:371:32:44

That IS now talk to Jasmine

Bertelsen has just joined me, very

1:32:441:32:47

busy afternoon out here on college

green. Thank you for squeezing your

1:32:471:32:53

way in, personal finance expert,

Jasmine. In terms of people managing

1:32:531:32:57

your finance, your area of expertise

for what has to thou fear from the

1:32:571:33:03

Chancellor had to say? Anything

positive?

It is a good point because

1:33:031:33:07

actually I think very little came

out, in terms of people's personal

1:33:071:33:11

finance, day-to-day, if you are

earning, there is a slight increase

1:33:111:33:20

in the tax threshold.

The amount you

can then going up very slightly from

1:33:201:33:23

April next year for stop

from 11,500

to 11,850, so an extra little bit we

1:33:231:33:30

can have under higher rate tax

threshold going up a little bit more

1:33:301:33:36

by one and a bit thousand pounds. A

tiny bit. In a way what was sort of

1:33:361:33:41

most notable is what wasn't done.

There was nothing much said about

1:33:411:33:46

pensions and that was a worry, a lot

of people were worried, people who

1:33:461:33:49

are putting money into their

pensions, they were worried that the

1:33:491:33:53

tax-free level would be brought

back. So that is not there. There is

1:33:531:33:57

a little bit of help certainly the

people who are on benefits, the

1:33:571:34:01

Universal Credit changes, I think

that was positive. But again it is

1:34:011:34:05

not huge, not a huge difference.

Generally speaking, there was not

1:34:051:34:09

very much at all about wages.

Nothing very much about changing the

1:34:091:34:14

price of things. On the whole

business as usual.

And a freeze on

1:34:141:34:23

fuel duty, something before the

February much. For businesses.

Apart

1:34:231:34:30

from white cider, nothing on the

booze and fags, that is the bit we

1:34:301:34:33

tend to have a look at, is there

going to be a move there? They

1:34:331:34:38

haven't really been any moves for

the last few years on those. And

1:34:381:34:42

petrol. Generally speaking apart

from those big lumps, the whole

1:34:421:34:45

thing about housing the George

Hewett such the country. These big

1:34:451:34:54

moves. In terms of day-to-day

personal finance, very little in

1:34:541:35:01

terms of a change I think.

As you

suggest, so much focus on housing

1:35:011:35:07

today and it is striking how quickly

the debate has shifted because there

1:35:071:35:12

is that initial positivity about

first-time buyers. We talk about it

1:35:121:35:15

a lot. You won't have to pay Stanciu

T on any property up to 300,000, and

1:35:151:35:22

more in some parts of the country.

Already people starting to crunch

1:35:221:35:26

the numbers and saying that over

time that is actually inflationary.

1:35:261:35:30

Those fast time buyers, it sounds

positive at the beginning but it

1:35:301:35:37

might benefit the person selling the

house.

I have already heard

1:35:371:35:42

millennials a big deal for that very

reason. It is one of those things

1:35:421:35:46

meant well. You can see the politics

behind this. A huge number of the

1:35:461:35:51

lonely all is so it is a big deal

for the Tory party. They need to

1:35:511:36:00

bring them back and frankly I don't

think this will. That is not enough.

1:36:001:36:03

At least at the moment may be of the

raft of changes he has mentioned in

1:36:031:36:07

terms of housing, freeing up land,

making sure empty properties get

1:36:071:36:11

filled and increasing the number of

houses built, maybe in time that

1:36:111:36:17

will make the young people happier.

But as you say, with the stamp duty,

1:36:171:36:23

it could actually make the prices go

up. So they are really not going to

1:36:231:36:27

be pleased with that, even if they

do get their cut place Railcard

1:36:271:36:32

again.

And it doesn't have you find

the deposit in the first place.

Too

1:36:321:36:37

little too late is what a lot of

them will be saying.

Thank you very

1:36:371:36:42

much. You can find out much more

about how the budget affects you

1:36:421:36:49

whatever your position. And send in

your questions.

1:36:491:36:58

You can text us your questions.

There will be a special session at

1:37:001:37:07

8:30pm. Whatever the issue that

concerns you is, sent through your

1:37:071:37:21

questions. More from Westminster in

the next little while, right now

1:37:211:37:27

back to ritual in the studio.

1:37:271:37:38

We'll be back in Westminster shortly

but first some other news.

1:37:411:37:43

The former Bosnian Serb army

commander Ratko Mladic has been

1:37:431:37:46

found guilty of genocide and crimes

against humanity during the Bosnian

1:37:461:37:48

war more than 20 years ago.

1:37:481:37:50

The 74-year-old has been

sentenced to life in prison

1:37:501:37:52

by an international court

at The Hague after a trial that

1:37:521:37:55

has lasted six years.

1:37:551:37:56

The judge said his crimes figured

amongst the most heinous

1:37:561:37:58

type known to humankind.

1:37:581:37:59

From the Hague,

Anna Holligan reports.

1:37:591:38:08

In the last hour, Zimbabwe's former

Vice-President Emmerson Mnangagwa

1:38:081:38:10

has arrived back in the country,

following Robert Mugabe's surprise

1:38:101:38:13

resignation yesterday.

1:38:131:38:14

He will be sworn in as Zimbabwe's

new head of state on Friday.

1:38:141:38:17

Mr Mnangagwa who was sacked

by Mugabe just a fortnight ago -

1:38:171:38:20

which triggered the President's

demise - will be sworn

1:38:201:38:22

in as Zimbabwe's new head

of state on Friday.

1:38:221:38:24

Mr Mugabe's resignation yesterday

sparked wild celebrations

1:38:241:38:26

across the country late

into the night.

1:38:261:38:31

Two weeks ago he was that power

struggle with Grace Mugabe and he

1:38:311:38:35

said feared for his life. He thought

he would be eliminated effectively

1:38:351:38:39

by the Mugabes. That is why he ran

and cross the border to Mozambique,

1:38:391:38:44

today he has come back. Nicknamed

the crocodile. They are saying that

1:38:441:38:48

the crocodile is back. He has

arrived back at a military airbase,

1:38:481:38:53

he will be sworn in on Friday as the

new president of Zimbabwe, only its

1:38:531:38:58

second leader in 30 years. After the

news that Robert Mugabe was

1:38:581:39:04

resigning we had all of the

euphoria, and we have seen that

1:39:041:39:08

starting to fade

and people asking

questions

1:39:081:39:17

about Mr Mnangagwa. He is accused of

human rights abuses, critics say he

1:39:171:39:24

has rigged elections, he has been

systematically corrupt. Other people

1:39:241:39:29

say when it comes to the economy

here is a reformer. So don't quite

1:39:291:39:33

what to expect, he is we think in

the next few minutes going to be

1:39:331:39:37

addressing supporters at the ruling

party

thank you very much for now.

1:39:371:39:48

The BBC Understands

that the London Metropolitan Police

1:39:481:39:50

are investigating the Hollywood star

Kevin Spacey over a second

1:39:501:39:52

alleged sexual assault.

1:39:521:39:53

The date of the allegation,

believed to be back in 2005,

1:39:531:39:56

took place in Lambeth,

the location of the Old Vic theatre

1:39:561:39:58

where Spacey was artistic director.

1:39:581:40:04

The UK's information Commissioner

has expressed 'huge concerns'

1:40:041:40:06

about the ethics and policies

of the mini cab service

1:40:061:40:08

Uber after the company

admitted concealing

1:40:081:40:10

a massive security breach.

1:40:101:40:17

The breach, which took place

in October last year affected

1:40:171:40:20

57 million of Uber's customers

and drivers around the world.

1:40:201:40:22

It's emerged that Uber

paid the hackers £75,000

1:40:221:40:24

to delete the data -

which included customers

1:40:241:40:26

names, email addresses

and mobile phone numbers.

1:40:261:40:31

The American actor and 70s teen idol

David Cassidy has died aged 67.

1:40:311:40:34

He found fame in the sitcom

The Partridge Family,

1:40:341:40:37

then enjoyed a hugely successful

music career, selling more

1:40:371:40:39

than 30 million records worldwide.

1:40:391:40:47

He was admitted to hospital

in Florida last week

1:40:471:40:49

with multiple organ failure.

1:40:491:40:54

Let's return to the budget. Some of

the key economic data unveiled by

1:40:541:40:57

the Chancellor. That IS joint ritual

horn to get more on what all this

1:40:571:41:04

means.

1:41:041:41:05

Balance the books, that was the

Chancellor's aim, so did he deliver?

1:41:071:41:11

Let's start with the deficit. That

is the difference between the amount

1:41:111:41:14

of money that government brings in

through taxes and the amount it

1:41:141:41:17

spends running the country. Back in

March, the OBR, the official

1:41:171:41:22

government watchdog, predicted this

is how the deficit would pan out.

1:41:221:41:27

With a government borrowing up to

£58 billion this year and that

1:41:271:41:31

figure falling as the years go on

down to almost £17 billion in 2022.

1:41:311:41:38

The latest update from the OBR gives

some good news for 2017 with

1:41:381:41:42

borrowing actually coming in more

than £8 billion less than expected,

1:41:421:41:46

and continuing to fall. But look at

this, it is not falling by as much

1:41:461:41:50

as was predicted back in March. One

easy way for any Chancellor to bring

1:41:501:41:54

down the deficit is through a robust

and growing economy. In March, the

1:41:541:41:59

OBR predicted the UK would grow by

2% in 2017. But today that figure

1:41:591:42:04

has been revised down to 1.5%.

Falling to 1.3% by 2019 before

1:42:041:42:12

inching up to 1.6% in 2022. Is that

robust enough? Let's asked the city.

1:42:121:42:21

It isn't, it actually moves the UK

from being a leader amongst the G-7

1:42:211:42:25

at the back end of 2016 to now being

lifeguard. The important backdrop to

1:42:251:42:32

this is the fact that the rest of

the GDP growth is accelerating over

1:42:321:42:35

the period. This growth accelerates

in the Eurozone, the US. In the UK

1:42:351:42:43

it is going in the opposite

direction, so we expect sterling to

1:42:431:42:46

be under pressure as people look at

that difference and trajectory and

1:42:461:42:50

concludes the UK is not the place

where they want to hold assets.

So

1:42:501:42:54

what is the problem? Part of it is

productivity, the measure of how

1:42:541:42:59

much stuff we can make. The more

people produce, the more their

1:42:591:43:03

employers compare them, the more

taxes the government can collect and

1:43:031:43:06

the more disposable income we have

to spend, but the UK has a serious

1:43:061:43:12

productivity problem.

1:43:121:43:22

The predicted .9% of this year

rising to 1.2% in 2022.

This is

1:43:321:43:41

something that was looking well over

June. The OBR have been stubbornly

1:43:411:43:45

expecting productivity to pick back

up to where we were pre-financial

1:43:451:43:48

crisis. That is just clearly not

happening. At least these figures

1:43:481:43:54

have a bit more semblance of reality

about them. It is still a conundrum

1:43:541:43:58

and a problem for the Bank of

England and for the economy as a

1:43:581:44:03

whole that productivity is so low.

That is just a reflection of the

1:44:031:44:08

type of jobs that have been created

in the economy.

So productivity and

1:44:081:44:16

GDP growth both downgraded, the

Chancellor is still cutting the

1:44:161:44:19

deficit but six months on from the

last OBR report he has a lot less

1:44:191:44:23

wiggle room. Rachel. Thanks through

much indeed. Let's return to my

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colleague Jane Hill at Westminster

to get more budget reaction.

1:44:301:44:35

We

to get more budget reaction.

1:44:351:44:35

We heard

to get more budget reaction.

1:44:351:44:38

We heard the

to get more budget reaction.

1:44:381:44:39

We heard the Chancellor

to get more budget reaction.

1:44:391:44:39

We heard the Chancellor announced

to get more budget reaction.

1:44:391:44:40

We heard the Chancellor announced 3

to get more budget reaction.

1:44:401:44:40

We heard the Chancellor announced 3

billion for Brexit preparations.

1:44:401:44:41

Let's discussed that and more with

Jill Rutter from the Institute for

1:44:411:44:44

government. Jill, good evening, in

practical terms, do we know what

1:44:441:44:50

that money is for? What is that

about?

We know the sort of thing

1:44:501:44:54

that will go on, the Chancellor has

announced he has already made

1:44:541:44:58

available quite a big slug of money

but he will add to that over the

1:44:581:45:03

next two years with his 3 billion.

He will run something that looks a

1:45:031:45:07

bit like a mini spending round in

January to decide who gets what. The

1:45:071:45:11

sort of things that will go on, some

of the preparation that needs to be

1:45:111:45:15

made at the border, so we know we

had the head of Revenue and Customs,

1:45:151:45:20

HMRC, only a couple of days ago at

the Public Accounts Committee,

1:45:201:45:23

saying he really needed to start

spending money now to make sure the

1:45:231:45:27

systems were ready for when we had

to charge customers potentially on

1:45:271:45:32

trade with the European Community.

Who will have to start equipping our

1:45:321:45:38

regulators to deal with some of the

fallout from not being part of the

1:45:381:45:42

regulatory agencies, people that

were moving on Monday back into

1:45:421:45:45

Europe as we leave those. Home

Office, the Amber Rudd has only told

1:45:451:45:52

the Home Affairs Select Committee

she needs to start recruiting staff

1:45:521:45:56

to start processing EU nationals who

need to be registered. That is all

1:45:561:45:59

those sorts of practical

preparations, as well as the

1:45:591:46:02

pressure on departments. We have

seen a real change in the profile of

1:46:021:46:06

departments, civil service numbers

were on a pretty consistent downward

1:46:061:46:09

trend until the referendum. The

other has been quite a marked tick

1:46:091:46:13

up in departments having to add

staff just to cope with the

1:46:131:46:16

pressures of Brexit.

You and I have

spoken many times about the sheer

1:46:161:46:23

scale of this investigation, the

number of extra staff needed. You

1:46:231:46:25

have outlined some of it there. Do

we have any sense as to whether this

1:46:251:46:30

figure is sufficient? Does the

government now? It seems to be

1:46:301:46:33

almost an endless creation of jobs

inevitably.

We obviously don't know

1:46:331:46:38

whether we will get a transition or

not, the government is clear it

1:46:381:46:41

wants a transition from other that

is not yet agreed. It affects the

1:46:411:46:45

timing of the spending. We also

don't know what our future

1:46:451:46:48

relationship with the EU will be, it

is something we hope to move on to

1:46:481:46:52

start discussing in September if we

get that famous verdict of

1:46:521:46:55

sufficient progress. The Chancellor

will allocate the first 1.5 billion

1:46:551:47:02

to 2019, which Texas nearly up to

the point we go, March 20 19th of

1:47:021:47:08

the last quarter of 2018 19. The

second 1.5 billion he is allocating

1:47:081:47:13

is basically going to make decisions

during next year when the nature of

1:47:131:47:17

that relationship becomes a bit

clearer. So he is holding that back

1:47:171:47:20

for now. Not tripling it out quite

with it he has been doing at this

1:47:201:47:25

year but he will only give them one

year's spending and then make some

1:47:251:47:28

decisions much later on next year if

he can about what he needs to do the

1:47:281:47:31

following year. Of course what is

quite interesting when you look at

1:47:311:47:34

the government's figures in the

Redbook is it goes 1.5, 1.5,

1:47:341:47:37

nothing. So we actually have no

provision in their spending numbers

1:47:371:47:43

for the sort of continuing costs of

managing Brexit. So that will have

1:47:431:47:47

to come in spending reviews for the

future.

Right, more to discuss next

1:47:471:47:51

time round in that case. Thank you

very much, Jill Rutter. You can see

1:47:511:47:56

much more reaction, plenty of

analysis on the BBC website of

1:47:561:47:59

course. ABC .co .uk/ news, whatever

the topic you are interested in.

1:47:591:48:06

Whatever you are not sure about.

1:48:061:48:08

-- BBC .co .uk. For now, back to

Rachel.

1:48:131:48:19

We will stay in Westminster but take

you to the warm indoors, we can talk

1:48:201:48:24

to Vicki Young, who has the central

heating and the central lobby.

1:48:241:48:30

That's right, we know the Chancellor

Philip Hammond was under pressure

1:48:301:48:33

from some in his own party to act on

several fronts, one of those of

1:48:331:48:37

course being Universal Credit. He

has acted today, you will set aside

1:48:371:48:44

£1.5 billion over the next few years

in order to write some of the things

1:48:441:48:48

that his opponents but also those on

his own side think were problems. I

1:48:481:48:52

am joined by Iain Duncan Smith. You

were one of those who was concerned

1:48:521:48:57

about this, he has made some

changes, which do you think are the

1:48:571:49:02

most significant?

Two major changes

he has made which I and others were

1:49:021:49:05

after because it was George Osborne

who I am afraid imposed waiting days

1:49:051:49:10

and took some money out of Universal

Credit, so we have been campaigning

1:49:101:49:13

to get it back to where we designed

it. As it rolls outcome you want

1:49:131:49:17

people to wait for a limited amount

of time, and availability to have

1:49:171:49:22

advances if they are in difficulty.

He has agreed advances can go to

1:49:221:49:26

100% if someone has difficulty. The

other big issue he has agreed to is

1:49:261:49:31

getting rid of the extra waiting

days brought in by George Osborne,

1:49:311:49:35

and that will help to speed up the

process enormously. The one bit

1:49:351:49:38

which probably will not have been

noticed is the has allowed there is

1:49:381:49:42

a two-week continuation of housing

benefit when someone on housing

1:49:421:49:45

benefit moves over on the Universal

Credit. The reason for that we

1:49:451:49:49

argued was that it just gives a bit

more time for those on Universal

1:49:491:49:53

Credit for those running it to be

abducted wrap whether these people

1:49:531:49:56

actually in debt already, whether

they have a problem, which case they

1:49:561:49:59

need to get to them and get them

sorted out because Universal Credit

1:49:591:50:02

does that. That two weeks will allow

them to steady their incomes

1:50:021:50:06

immediately and sort out their

problems. There are in mind one big

1:50:061:50:09

thing, it is not Universal Credit

creating the debts, 60% of the old

1:50:091:50:14

and RFID system have debt and

arrears. This will help get them

1:50:141:50:19

sorted as quickly as possible.

You

would have liked to have seen him go

1:50:191:50:23

further, to make work pay even more.

Yes, the original plan was doubled a

1:50:231:50:30

bit more money in you see, it was

taken out by George Osborne, he

1:50:301:50:34

resigned over some of those things.

But the point is last time he put

1:50:341:50:41

some of the paperback down, it is

really important, it helps people

1:50:411:50:44

earn more, and he has dealt with

issues around the roll-out, such as

1:50:441:50:48

getting money to people quicker and

making sure people are assessed

1:50:481:50:51

properly so they don't in any way

fall into debt while they are on

1:50:511:50:54

Universal Credit. Those measures

should help that enormously. It is

1:50:541:50:59

an incredibly important programme.

We have to get it absolutely rolled

1:50:591:51:07

out. It is rolling out carefully and

steadily.

More broadly with the

1:51:071:51:13

budget, are you concerned that your

party, your government has given up

1:51:131:51:16

on balancing the books? Philip

Hammond seems to be turning the taps

1:51:161:51:20

on the spending cap.

Not really, he

made it very clear, it shows that

1:51:201:51:29

debt will fall to its lowest level

now for some considerable time, and

1:51:291:51:33

set to fall. The deficit is set to

fall over the next three to four

1:51:331:51:36

years, again the very low levels,

eventually falling out altogether.

1:51:361:51:41

That is still a long way off, still

the middle of the next decade?

But

1:51:411:51:46

the plan is to get that done. What

he has done today is that the actual

1:51:461:51:52

three key issues. Housing is the big

issue for us, decades of government

1:51:521:51:57

whether Labour or Conservative have

simply not manage to get enough

1:51:571:52:00

homes built. So we have to get more

homes built, private and public

1:52:001:52:05

sector housing. His plan today with

the extra money should help with

1:52:051:52:08

that. The second thing it will help

is first-time buyers will have

1:52:081:52:12

literally their immediate

entry-level tax essentially no

1:52:121:52:13

longer paid. So they will have a

zero rate as they arrive on their

1:52:131:52:20

property, which makes buying a home

for them much cheaper and much

1:52:201:52:22

quicker.

Demand is not the problem,

we know that people want to buy

1:52:221:52:27

these houses, it is that there are

not enough being built.

Exactly

1:52:271:52:31

right. Today you saw a commendation

of two things, helping young people

1:52:311:52:34

get on the property level hash Orton

-- ladder. Zero centring their tax

1:52:341:52:44

level as they enter in and then the

issue about building more. Also

1:52:441:52:50

getting one of our colleagues Oliver

Letwin to look at the problem with

1:52:501:52:53

the planning system and with those

who have land already with planning

1:52:531:52:58

approval, and many of those are

housing associations, getting them

1:52:581:53:00

to build copy would immediately put

hundreds of thousands of more homes

1:53:001:53:04

back into use and that is the really

important thing, get more houses

1:53:041:53:08

built.

Thank you very much indeed.

MPs here will be digestive and what

1:53:081:53:12

has gone on in the budget at least

for the next few days.

1:53:121:53:20

Away from the main political action

and get a sense of how it is going

1:53:221:53:25

down elsewhere. Judith Moritz has

been gauging reaction to the

1:53:251:53:29

Chancellor's reaction in

Manchester's Christmas market.

1:53:291:53:35

Amongst the mulled wine and the

Santa display, plenty of under

1:53:371:53:42

30-year-olds have been listing to

what the budget has to offer them. I

1:53:421:53:45

have four of them with me. Lee, the

measure to abolish damp chewed the

1:53:451:53:54

first time buyers up to 300,000, is

that going to help you at all, in

1:53:541:53:59

terms of buying a house?

Not at all.

-- stamp duty. It is looking like we

1:53:591:54:05

will never get a house really as it

stands.

The stamp duty is not the

1:54:051:54:11

issue, what are the problems for

you?

Just the price of housing, it

1:54:111:54:19

is ridiculous, especially compared

to the wage. It still feels a long

1:54:191:54:22

way off, what about some of the

other measures? Let's say you are

1:54:221:54:26

not quite 30, are you, the Railcard

will be extended, the young person

1:54:261:54:30

Railcard. Is that a good thing? It

won't affect me much, but I can see

1:54:301:54:42

it will be good for other people.

I

get the train a lot to see my

1:54:421:54:47

family. It will be good that it is

going up.

Come over here and talk to

1:54:471:54:53

Tom and Karen. You were telling me

that this stamp duty move for you

1:54:531:54:58

has come just a little too late.

Yes, we recently just bought a house

1:54:581:55:03

in July. We just missed on the

cattle. I think our stamp duty was

1:55:031:55:12

roughly £4000, if we could save

that. We would be £4000 saved

1:55:121:55:20

otherwise.

What do you think of it

as an idea, will it encourage people

1:55:201:55:24

to get onto the first rung of the

ladder, your friends, the people

1:55:241:55:27

that you know? How many of them have

been persuaded to buy houses, how

1:55:271:55:33

many are able?

I think most people

want to get their own independent

1:55:331:55:36

and buy a house and move on their

own. So any sort of say from

1:55:361:55:42

anything, stamp duty is quite high

so it will be quite good.

Carol,

1:55:421:55:47

what about you, in terms of the

housing ladder for the under 30s or

1:55:471:55:52

for first-time buyers at least, what

do you think?

We always have to

1:55:521:55:59

dream to be homeowners, most of my

colleagues want to buy a house. It

1:55:591:56:06

could stimulate the economy really

because it is lower. It will help

1:56:061:56:11

people move to fulfil their dreams I

think there will be a good thing.

1:56:111:56:14

Thank you all very we are out of

time. A mixture of views, I have

1:56:141:56:20

spoken to a number of people owned

the age of 30. -- under the age of

1:56:201:56:25

30. So many confiscated factors that

prevent people from taking that

1:56:251:56:31

sleep into owning their own home.

There has also been a lot of

1:56:311:56:35

positivity in measures on a budget

which I think will make a difference

1:56:351:56:37

here. Coming up at five o'clock, we

will be

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