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I'm Ben Brown in the Zimbabwean

capital, Harare, where very shortly,

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we're expecting the country's

veteran leader, Robert Mugabe,

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to make a live TV address

and announce that he's stepped down

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from the presidency.

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ZBC have been trailing for the last

few hours that he is making an

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address to the nation and there have

been reports that he is going to

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resign. Writers have been saying he

has agreed to submit his resignation

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as President. -- Reuters. But we're

still waiting to see whether that

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happens. This afternoon, he has been

negotiating with generals here in

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Zimbabwe. He has been discussing, as

he has done ever since that military

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takeover on Wednesday, with them,

whether he should cling to office.

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He has been trying to cling to

office. And here we are now, with

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pictures from ZBC, a momentous event

now for the whole of Zimbabwe, will

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he resign as President after 37

years? Or will he not? We are about

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to hear from Robert Mugabe himself

at last. An extraordinary moment for

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this country, the whole country

waiting and watching to see what

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happens. He has already been deposed

by his own party. Will he go as

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President?

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C an now from Robert Mugabe. -- let

us hear now.

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Fellows about wins. I --

Zimbabweans. I address you tonight

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on the back of a meeting I held

today with the nation's security

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forces command element. This

meeting, which was facilitated by a

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mediating team, followed an

operation mounted by the Sinbad Way

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defence forces -- Zimbabwe defence

forces in the week that has gone by,

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and which was triggered by concerns

arising from the reading of the

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state of affairs in our country and

in the rulings -- the ruling Zanu-PF

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party. Whatever the pros and cons,

the way they went about registering

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those concerns, I is the President

of Zimbabwe, and as their

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Commander-in-Chief, do acknowledge

the issues they have drawn my

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attention to. And I do believe that

these were raised in the spirit of

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honesty and out of deep

anti-patriotic concern for the

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stability of our nation. -- deep and

patriotic concern. As I address you,

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I am also aware of a whole range of

concerns which have come from you

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all as citizens of our great

country.

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Today's meeting with the command

element has underscored the need for

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us to collectively start processes

that return our nation to normalcy.

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So, all our people can go about

their business unhindered in an

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environment of perfect peace and

security, assured that law and order

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will prevail as before, and endure

well into the future. If there is

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anyone, any one observation we have

made and drawn from events of the

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past week, it is the unshakeable

pedestal upon which rests our state

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of peace, law and order, amply

indicating that as Zimbabwe ends, we

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are generally a peaceably disposed

people, and given to expressing

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grievances and resolving our

differences by ourselves, and with

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the level of dignity, discipline of

restraint so rare to many other

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nations. This is to be admired.

Indeed, such traits must form the

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pith of our personality and national

character. A veritable resource we

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summon and draw upon in times of

vices are dudes. -- vicissitudes.

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The opposition I have alluded to did

not amount to a threat to our well

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cherished constitutional order. Nor

was it a challenge to my authority

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as head of state and government. Not

even as Commander-in-Chief of the

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Zimbabwe defence forces. To the man,

the command element remained

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respectful. And comported with the

dictates and moors of

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constitutionalism. True, a few

incidents may have occurred here and

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there, but these are being

corrected. I'm happy that throughout

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the short period, the pillars of

state remained functional. Even

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happier for me and arising from

today's meeting in a strong sense,

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is a strong sense of collegiality

and comradeship. This should redound

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to greater peace and an abiding

sense of security in communities and

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in our entire nation. Among the

issues discussed is that relating to

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our economy, which as we all know is

going through a difficult patch. Our

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great concern...

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I beg your pardon. Of greater

concern is spats between

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high-ranking officials in the party

and government, exacerbated by

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multiple conflicting messages from

both the party and government, major

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criticisms levelled against us

inescapable. Amidst all this,

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flagship projects already adopted by

government stood stalled, or mired

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in needless controversy. All this

now has to stop, as we inaugurate a

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new work culture, and pace at which

will show a strong sense of purpose

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and commitment to turning around our

economy in terms of our policies.

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The government remains committed to

improving the social and material

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conditions. Material conditions of

the people. The government will soon

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unveil an entrepreneurial skills and

business development programme,

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which will empower and unleash

gainful projects at our growth

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points and growth areas.

Zimbabweans, we are a nation born

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out of a protracted struggle for

national independence. Our rules

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like in that struggle whose goals

and ideals must guide our present

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and structure our future. The

tradition of resistance is our

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collective legacy, whose core tenets

must be subscribed by all across

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generations and across times.

Indeed, these two -- this also was a

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great concern for our commanders,

who themselves were natives of that

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revolution and often Bradbury tender

ages and at great personal peril. We

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still have in our various

communities veterans of that funding

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struggle. Who might have found that

the prevailing management of

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national and party issues quite

alienating. This must be corrected

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without delay, including ensuring

that these veterans continue to play

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central roles in the lives of our

nation. We must all recognise that

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their participation in the war of

liberation exacted lifelong costs.

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Which whilst hardly repayable may

still be assuaged and ameliorative.

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-- ameliorated. In respect of the

party, and the party issues raised

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both by the commanders and by the

general membership of Zanu-PF, there

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are also stand acknowledged. They

have to be attended to with a great

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sense of urgency. However, I am

aware that as a party of liberation,

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Zanu-PF has over the years written

elaborate rules and procedures that

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guide the operations of all its

organs and personnel. Indeed, the

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current criticism raised, raised

against the command element...

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Raised against it by the command

element and some of its members have

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a reason from well funding

perception that the party was

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stretching or even failing in its

own rules and procedures. -- well

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funded perception. The way forward,

thus, cannot be based on swapping,

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or riding roughshod over party rules

and procedures. There has to be a

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net return to the guiding principles

of our party, as enshrined in its

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constitution. Which must apply

fairly and equitably in all

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situations and before all members.

The era of victimisation and

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arbitrary decisions must be put

behind. As we all embrace a new

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ethos, predicated on the supreme

rule of our party, and nourished by

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an abiding sense of camaraderie. To

all this must be general recognition

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that Zanu-PF is a party of

traditions, and has been served by

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successive generations who are bound

together by shared ideals and

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values, which must continue to reign

supreme in our nation.

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Intergenerational conflict must be

resolved through harmonised melding

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of old established players, as they

embrace and welcome new rules, new

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ones through a well-defined sense of

hierarchy and succession. Indeed,

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all these matters will be discussed

and settled at the forthcoming

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congress, within the framework of a

clear road map that seeks to resolve

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once and for all any missions or

contradictions -- omissions that

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have affected our party negatively.

The Congress is due in a few weeks

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from now. I will preside over its

processes, which must not be

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pre-possessed by any acts calculated

to undermine it, or to compromise

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the outcomes in the eyes of the

public. As I conclude this address,

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I am aware that many developments

have occurred in the party, or have

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been championed and done by

individuals in the name of the

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party. Given the failings of the

past, and the anger this might have

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triggered in some quarters, such as

developments... Such developments

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are quite understandable. However we

cannot be guided by bitterness or

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vengefulness, both of which would

not make us any better party members

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or any better Zimbabweans. Our

hallowed policy of re-conciliation

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was pronounced in 1980, and through

which we reached out to those who

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had occupied and oppressed us for

nearly a century. And those who had

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traded fire with in a bitter war.

Surely they cannot be unavailable to

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our own, both in the party and in

our nation. We must learn to forgive

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and resolve contradictions, real or

perceived, in a comradely,

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Zimbabwean spirit. I am confident

that from tonight, our whole nation,

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at all levels, gets refocused as we

put shoulder to the wheel amidst the

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promising agricultural season

already upon us. Let us all move

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forward, reminding ourselves of our

wartime mantra. I think you, and

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good night. -- thank U.

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It is a long speech.

APPLAUSE

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OK, thanks.

Robert Mugabe with an absolutely

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extraordinary speech to the nation.

It was expected that he would

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announce his resignation, but he has

not done that. It was a lawn and

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typically rambling address to the

nation from Robert Mugabe. -- long.

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He was flanked by some of the

generals he has been negotiating

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with. It had been reported he would

announce his resignation, but he has

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not done that. Let us take you

through a few of the things. This

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was after a day of extraordinary

pressure on him, in which he was

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dismissed by his own party, Zanu-PF,

and they then gave him an ultimatum

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that if he didn't resign by midday

tomorrow, he was effectively going

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to be forced out of office by an

impeachment process that will now

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begin, because he is not going. He

talked about the military takeover

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that there has been here, he said he

believed the takeover had been

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undertaken out of honesty and

patriotic concern for the stability

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of our nation. Slightly incredibly,

he said he did not believe that

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military takeover was an attempt to

undermine his authority as head of

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state. Not a challenge to my

authority as head of state, he said

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that we cannot be guided by

bitterness or vengefulness, we must

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learn to forgive and resolve

contradictions. That is move

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forward. So, lots of generalities,

frankly a lot of waffle, to be

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honest, from President Mugabe, he is

still President of this country for

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the time being at least, but maybe

not for very much longer. He has

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been deposed as party leader,

deposed as the leader of Zanu-PF,

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but he is still technically

President until either he resigns

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from office, which he has

steadfastly refused to do, against

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all expectations, and despite the

pressure on him from the people with

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their demonstration yesterday, with

the Army and from Zanu-PF itself, he

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is staying put, it seems. Let us get

some reaction to that speech from

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one of the people who demonstrated

yesterday here in Harare. She is an

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offer and a neurosurgeon here. --

she is on offer. You might yesterday

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demanding he stood done, what did

you think of that speech?

It is

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interesting, for many of us who are

a little older, Mugabe came onto the

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international stage in 1980 with an

incredibly eloquent speech, we will

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-- we were very proud and it is

interesting he should go out of the

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stage with and also eloquent speech.

But he hasn't gone out of the stage,

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he hasn't resign.

We are entering a

post McGothigan Europe. Whatever the

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speech was tonight, if you saw what

happened on the streets yesterday,

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both at the war veterans' mass rally

and on the streets of Zimbabwe,

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people were buoyant, we are entering

an area -- an era of inclusivity. We

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can never go back.

By people were

reporting he would say in this

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address on TV, I resign as

President, I resign out head of

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state.

I think there is a tricky

element here, which is that on the

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one hand there must be any

appearance of coercion on the part

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of the military. And I think perhaps

flanked by the generals, resignation

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may have been perceived by that way.

I think what is happening right now

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in Zanu-PF is a political process

and a political solution. We are

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entering a post-Mugabe era. I hope

Zimbabweans are not deflated by

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this. They must know we have began a

process that will move forward.

But

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they will be deflated because you

know that the expectation that was

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raised with that demonstration here

that you took part in, they demanded

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his resignation and they thought

they would get it tonight.

Like I

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said, I think people will feel

deflated, but the spirit was

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incredible, the demands where there,

but Zimbabweans are so patient, this

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is our kind of coup, or not coup, it

is our kind of process and I really

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don't think there is any doubt that

Mugabe will go.

Is he going to be

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impeached now? That is what Zanu-PF

have said, if he doesn't go by

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midday tomorrow, local time, the

Parliament will start impeaching him

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straightaway.

I think that political

process has already begun. You have

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ten out of ten provinces casting a

no vote, he was removed as head of

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the party, it is just a matter of

another final hurdle before he is

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impeached.

He is pretty stubborn,

all this pressure, and the party and

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the army, the people and still he

will not go.

37 years of power, I

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don't think it has even sunk in

psychologically, there was not real

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cognition that he is no longer in

power. The military intervention, he

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said, was not a challenge to his

authority. There is no sense of

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that. I think the only way it will

come is through the political

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process through Zanu-PF.

If I have

heard it said he really believes he

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should die in office, die as

President, that is what he has

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already assumed. He is just not

prepared to stand down.

We have 14

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million people who deserve to have a

fresh voice, they deserve something

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better. So it is not about what

Mugabe wants, to die in office, I

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think the world would agree that is

a completely unrealistic

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expectation. And our country cannot

be held hostage by the dreams of a

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single human being.

If he doesn't

go, will people march again like

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they did yesterday? We saw so many

people on the streets, there was a

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euphoric atmosphere.

It was a

euphoric atmosphere. But winds have

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lost their voice and they found it.

On the streets were blacks and

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whites, farmers, maids, gardeners,

people from all stripes. It is not

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necessary, I think, for us to march

again, I think the message has been

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heard. People heard cars.

Mr Mugabe

didn't hear it you, it seems! Is a

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-- people heard cars. Good to talk

to you. A demonstrator yesterday and

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maybe a demonstrator again. Let's go

to Milton Nkosi. He is in

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Johannesburg. I know you have met

Robert Mugabe down the years, you

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have followed his career closely.

What do you make of this speech?

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Pretty bizarre, wasn't it? Pretty

rambling. Anyone who was hoping he

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won't resign, and it is very to say

there were millions who were hoping

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that, will be disappointed.

Yes

indeed. I hate to say it, but last

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time you and I spoke, I said this

guy will fight until the last drop.

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They do not come top than this in

life. The writing is on the wall. If

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military officers in fatigues

pushing the papers next to him, and

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still there is no resignation.

Robert Mugabe will not give in until

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he is impeached. There is no other

way now, it is quite clear that he

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is holding the line, that he has

been holding all week.

So, Milton,

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there was so much expectation, I

suppose. How disappointed do you

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think ordinary Zimbabweans are going

to be, having heard this address

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from President Mugabe after all the

heady atmosphere of a rally

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yesterday, the drama of the military

takeover, the drama of Zanu-PF

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stripping him of his party

leadership, and all of this in a

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sense might be an anti-climax this

evening?

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It is a colossal disappointment. I

think across not just Zimbabwe but

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the African continent, and indeed

across the world, where people

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thought that Robert Mugabe would do

the right thing, he has again stood

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his ground and decided that he wants

to die in office. He's only got one

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thing in mind. He's going nowhere,

as far as he is concerned. It was

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quite interesting, just watching all

the people in the room. There was no

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sign of Mrs Grace Mugabe, the person

who actually triggered the sequence

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of events we have been following in

the last few days. She was nowhere

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to be seen and I wonder where she

was watching this speech from. I

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wonder if she had anything to do

with it, given that the president

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did not resign, following all the

drama we saw today. Robert Mugabe is

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still the president of the Republic

of Zimbabwe.

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And what think next now for

Zimbabwe? Inevitable there will be

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impeachment. We are hearing from the

war veterans leader, who has been a

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leading voice in the campaign to get

rid of Mugabe that the impeachment

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process will now begin, as promised

by Zanu-PF, who said if he hadn't

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resigned by midday tomorrow,

impeachment would be inevitable. Is

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that the way you see it?

There are

many options. Robert Mugabe is

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hoping he will be presiding, as he

said, over the Congress when it

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happens in December. But we know

that Zanu-PF members can't wait for

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Tuesday, when Parliament reconvenes,

and that's where they will impeach

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him, following their 12 o'clock

deadline on Monday. But also, we saw

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that this whole progress was started

by the military. It is now the

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chance that the people of Zimbabwe

to lead this process. I think the

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military is slightly taking a back

seat here. They are not trying to

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put the gun to the head of the

president, because they want this

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constitutionally arranged removal

from power. So, if the people pour

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out on the streets without being

urged by the military, that will be

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a change of approach. But we know

that by midday tomorrow he will have

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missed the deadline and impeach --

impeachment proceedings will begin.

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In as far as the region is

concerned, they will continue with

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their meeting in Rwanda. I think it

is even more important for President

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Jacob Zuma to go to Rwanda to talk

about the crisis unfolding in

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Zimbabwe.

Thank you very much, our

Southern African respondent. We can

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now speak to a member of Zanu-PF,

the London representative.

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Thank you for being with us. What is

your reaction to the news that he is

0:33:250:33:31

refusing to go, against perhaps many

people's expectations and hopes?

I

0:33:310:33:37

watched the speech with utter

disappointment. President Mugabe has

0:33:370:33:41

just rained on Zimbabwe's parade,

really. I think everybody, every one

0:33:410:33:47

of my compatriots is downcast,

pretty much heartbroken. I am very

0:33:470:33:54

sad, because what will happen from

here now is that humiliation of

0:33:540:34:00

President Mugabe, big-time

humiliation, which is something

0:34:000:34:03

throughout the week I was saying we

don't need. It is very sad, because

0:34:030:34:08

when the evidence of... When the

impeachment evidence comes, it will

0:34:080:34:15

be very, very embarrassing and

humiliating and we didn't need to

0:34:150:34:18

drag him through this mud but he has

asked for it. As far as he's

0:34:180:34:25

concerned, he will preside over

Congress in December. That is

0:34:250:34:30

ridiculous! Which Congress? As far

as we are concerned, he is no longer

0:34:300:34:34

president of our party. He is done.

The Central committee has made a

0:34:340:34:39

decision, he's gone. All ten of them

made the decision he has gone. Who

0:34:390:34:48

does he represent, or whose

interests, which constitutes does he

0:34:480:34:52

represent Christ on the military

says he has gone. At the moment they

0:34:520:34:55

are just holding on to the title of

Commander-in-Chief because... He

0:34:550:35:01

hasn't stepped down formally. But in

terms of authority, he doesn't hold

0:35:010:35:07

authority over anybody. All he has

is an office but absolutely no

0:35:070:35:12

authority. I don't know what he's

playing at. As far as Zanu-PF is

0:35:120:35:16

concerned, we have a new leader, the

leader appointed today, Emmerson

0:35:160:35:23

Mnangagwa. That is it. Come

Congress, Zanu-PF will confirm a new

0:35:230:35:29

leader. The nation has to do what it

has to do. Impeachment has to start

0:35:290:35:35

on Tuesday. The opposition and

Zanu-PF are agreed on this, the

0:35:350:35:44

president has to step down.

About

that impeachment... Just tell us,

0:35:440:35:52

how quickly do you think that

impeachment process will take? How

0:35:520:35:57

long will it take? Could he be gone

within a few days? What is your

0:35:570:36:01

estimate?

I think by the end of the

week. What has to happen is the

0:36:010:36:07

committee has to be set in place to

investigate the allegations, and

0:36:070:36:13

that it has to report back and then

people have to vote on it. That is

0:36:130:36:16

pretty much the process. It might

not happen overnight, it might take

0:36:160:36:21

a few days. It depends on the

cooperation of all the parties,

0:36:210:36:24

anyway.

Are you surprised that Robert Mugabe

0:36:240:36:32

has refused to resign? People have

always said he is a stubborn man,

0:36:320:36:36

he's a fighter, he's not the sort of

man who just gives in to pressure.

0:36:360:36:41

So in many ways, perhaps we

shouldn't have been surprised he

0:36:410:36:45

refused to resign.

In an interview

this afternoon those were my words,

0:36:450:36:51

he is a stubborn man, you cannot

second-guess him. When the address

0:36:510:36:56

was announced I thought, OK, he has

relented. But I think he is someone

0:36:560:37:01

who I think is going to fight to the

death. He can't do it himself. He

0:37:010:37:08

will be 94 in three months, 94

years, and you still want to fight

0:37:080:37:14

for your term to take it to 99,

100... Come on. You saw how he was

0:37:140:37:20

when he was giving that speech, he

was rumbling. We have tried to

0:37:200:37:26

respect, but even our African

mentality cannot take it this far.

0:37:260:37:31

We respect our elders and seniority,

but this time round I think... It is

0:37:310:37:38

testing Zimbabweans' patients,

testing all the patience of the

0:37:380:37:45

country.

I want to ask you, how

angry do you think Zimbabweans will

0:37:450:37:50

be? We saw that extraordinary

demonstration here in Harare

0:37:500:37:54

yesterday, so many thousands on the

streets, euphoric celebrations

0:37:540:37:57

because they thought a that it

effectively they had toppled him.

0:37:570:38:03

Will they be disappointed and also

angry? We're hearing there is a call

0:38:030:38:07

from the war veterans leader for

them to take to the streets again on

0:38:070:38:10

Wednesday.

I will start by talking

about myself. I am extremely angry,

0:38:100:38:19

so if my sentiments and my feelings

reflect that of many Zimbabweans,

0:38:190:38:23

it's even worse. I am so

disappointed. I represented his

0:38:230:38:29

interest here, I have defended him

all the way, and I expected this to

0:38:290:38:35

happen in a very dignified way, to

put a closure to what you could call

0:38:350:38:43

an illustrious political career. But

no, he's going to be remembered by

0:38:430:38:45

how he went, not by what he stood

for. This is the death of his

0:38:450:38:53

legacy, and we never hoped that this

day would come. We hoped to remember

0:38:530:38:57

him for certain things, look at the

positives and say, OK, he was a

0:38:570:39:02

human being, he made mistakes but he

was sincere. Yes, sincerely wrong,

0:39:020:39:08

but sincere all the same. Now this,

this idea of taking the whole

0:39:080:39:15

country with him to the grave is

wrong, absolutely wrong. There is no

0:39:150:39:19

justification for it on no excuse he

gives excuses he is going to

0:39:190:39:24

re-form, going to put the country

together, going to bring harmony in

0:39:240:39:29

his Cabinet. He can't do it,

because... This conflict within

0:39:290:39:35

government has been happening for

the last few years and most of them,

0:39:350:39:42

it was suspected that he was the one

engineering it. It's not going to

0:39:420:39:46

happen. So he has to go. He is not

the Zanu-PF leader, that's it.

When

0:39:460:39:56

he talks about the military takeover

that there has been not being a

0:39:560:40:03

threat to his authority as head of

state... I have to say, speaking

0:40:030:40:09

personally, it seems like he is

living in a parallel universe

0:40:090:40:13

because a military takeover was an

absolute threat to his authority as

0:40:130:40:16

head of state stop your absolutely.

What the military tried to do was to

0:40:160:40:22

say, OK, you have an infrastructure

which sustains your power. We want

0:40:220:40:29

to hold that infrastructure so that

people express themselves. So your

0:40:290:40:32

body can express itself, as well.

What we saw on Friday was the party

0:40:320:40:36

expressing itself through the

provinces in coordinating

0:40:360:40:44

committees. What we saw on Saturday

was the people of Zimbabwe

0:40:440:40:48

expressing themselves. And what we

saw today was the biggest organ of

0:40:480:40:54

the party and the most powerful

organ of the party expressing

0:40:540:40:56

itself. And against all that, what

we have seen just a few minutes ago

0:40:560:41:05

was President Mugabe remaining

defiant to his people, defiant to

0:41:050:41:08

his party, defiant to Zimbabweans

and only studied at defying the

0:41:080:41:16

military, his commanders, only

listening to himself. Himself and

0:41:160:41:20

the voices in his head, which is

very, very unfortunate.

OK, thank

0:41:200:41:28

you so much for your time and your

instant reaction to that speech from

0:41:280:41:34

Robert Mugabe, who is still

president of Zimbabwe against all

0:41:340:41:38

odds and all the expectations. He

has not said that he is resigning.

0:41:380:41:42

Let us move forward, he said, and he

didn't believe in his address. He

0:41:420:41:48

said the military takeover was in

any sort of threat to his authority.

0:41:480:41:52

Well, the calls for his impeachment

now are intensifying. We have

0:41:520:41:57

already heard from the War Veterans

Association, who organised the

0:41:570:42:03

demonstration here yesterday, that

the impeachment process will begin

0:42:030:42:07

pretty much straightaway as a result

of Mr Mugabe refusing to resign.

0:42:070:42:11

Let's listen to on X out of that

long, rambling television address.

0:42:110:42:18

... Generation conflict must be

resolved through harmonised melding

0:42:220:42:33

of old, established players as they

embrace and welcome new rules. New

0:42:330:42:44

ones through a well-defined sense of

hierarchy and succession. Indeed,

0:42:440:42:55

all these matters will be discussed

and settled at the forthcoming

0:42:550:43:04

congress, within the framework of a

clear road map that seeks to resolve

0:43:040:43:12

once and for all any omissions or

contradictions which have affected

0:43:120:43:22

our party negatively.

The Congress is due in a few weeks

0:43:220:43:33

from now. I will preside over the

process which must not be

0:43:330:43:42

repossessed by any acts calculated

to undermine it ought to compromise

0:43:420:43:49

the outcomes in the eyes of the

public.

0:43:490:43:55

That was just an excerpt of

President Mugabe's rather

0:43:550:43:58

extraordinary address to the nation

this evening, in what was billed by

0:43:580:44:04

some as the resignation speech of

Robert Mugabe, after 37 years in

0:44:040:44:07

power. It wasn't that. It was a

rather defiant speech. He is

0:44:070:44:13

clinging to office. His opponents,

and there are plenty of them in this

0:44:130:44:17

country, are now saying the

impeachment process will begin in

0:44:170:44:22

the Zimbabwean parliament, probably

on Tuesday. The two chambers of the

0:44:220:44:26

parliament will need a two thirds

majority in each chamber to impeach

0:44:260:44:30

him, to effectively kicked him out

of office. That process will begin

0:44:300:44:34

in the coming days. Let's get the

analysis now of a Zimbabwean

0:44:340:44:40

academic and author. We were talking

to you earlier on and you were

0:44:400:44:43

saying you didn't think he would

resign and you were absolutely

0:44:430:44:46

right, he hasn't.

Two things... First, people from the

0:44:460:44:58

outset insisted it wasn't a coup,

insisted Robert Mugabe was head of

0:44:580:45:03

state, throughout.

They want him to

go, to resign?

Ambivalence has

0:45:030:45:08

caught them out, in my view. The

second thing is you have the

0:45:080:45:12

individual chairman of the South

African Minister, meeting on Tuesday

0:45:120:45:21

in Angola. Yes, I think he is

playing for time.

He cannot survive

0:45:210:45:26

in office, surely, he is going to be

impeached?

I don't think so, I don't

0:45:260:45:30

think he will be impeached. I think

given what happened today, and our

0:45:300:45:36

suspicion is there where parallel

processes today, the meeting at

0:45:360:45:38

State house but also the Zanu-PF

central meeting. What he said today,

0:45:380:45:45

the emphasis that these special

congress would determine what

0:45:450:45:51

happens in the party means ipso

facto what happened today is null

0:45:510:45:54

and void.

We saw so many people here

yesterday on the streets,

0:45:540:46:01

demonstrating in huge numbers,

celebrating because they thought

0:46:010:46:04

they had got rid of Robert Mugabe

but they haven't. They are going to

0:46:040:46:07

be furious and they, angry?

We will

see. I think he is playing for time,

0:46:070:46:14

in my view. He is playing for time,

during which time he can get

0:46:140:46:19

guarantees for his safety and that

of his family. He can't stand out

0:46:190:46:23

for too long but in the meantime he

is not resigning. I don't think the

0:46:230:46:28

Central committee proceedings are

anything to go by. I don't think

0:46:280:46:31

even the issue of impeachment will

go ahead, given what he said. It

0:46:310:46:35

depends.

We have heard from the War

Veterans, the men who fought

0:46:350:46:39

alongside him in the war of

Independence. They are saying the

0:46:390:46:43

impeachment process will begin now,

because of that speech, because he

0:46:430:46:46

didn't resign.

That might be an

opinion. We have to ask the

0:46:460:46:50

military, the generals themselves.

With whom he agreed on the speech he

0:46:500:46:56

made. They were sitting there and

watching him. They went through that

0:46:560:46:59

speech together. So would the War

Veterans or anyone else there

0:46:590:47:09

overall what was said today?

Did

generals cannot be happy. They

0:47:090:47:14

launched this military takeover,

they want him gone, they want their

0:47:140:47:21

man, Emmerson Mnangagwa, to replace

Robert Mugabe. So far they have

0:47:210:47:23

failed in that objective, surely?

I

don't think there is a consensus

0:47:230:47:28

Emmerson Mnangagwa should come in. I

don't think so. I think in many

0:47:280:47:31

respects, the statement by Mugabe

might reflect the broad, a broader

0:47:310:47:38

discussion today to stop it might be

also...

People have always said he

0:47:380:47:47

is a stubborn man. Is this typical

Robert Mugabe?

Yes, for sure, for

0:47:470:47:53

sure. He will fight to the end,

that's how he is. Even though the

0:47:530:47:58

game is over. In my view, the game

is over. For us, most of us, we are

0:47:580:48:04

concerned about what happens after.

But I don't think there is much to

0:48:040:48:08

go.

This is typical Mugabe, you

would say?

Yes, typical.

Is it sad,

0:48:080:48:16

in some ways, to see a man of his

age, 93, refusing to bow out quietly

0:48:160:48:21

and maybe with a bit of dignity?

Yes, but also the point is people

0:48:210:48:26

are forgetting... The very people

who have been wanting him out, in my

0:48:260:48:33

view the coup took place in 2008.

When he lost the election,

0:48:330:48:43

Tsvangirai and Emmerson Mnangagwa

reinstalled him. He was playing with

0:48:430:48:48

danger anyway. He was never on his

own, ever. The guys who are sitting

0:48:480:48:56

there are the ones in charge of this

country, of the estate.

From the War

0:48:560:49:02

Veterans there has been a call for

more demonstrations on Wednesday, an

0:49:020:49:06

attempt to use people power of the

kind we saw yesterday, to try and

0:49:060:49:10

force him out of office. You don't

think that will be successful?

I'm

0:49:100:49:15

rather cynical, because these other

people... Never before. Three or

0:49:150:49:22

four days people were rather removed

from the scene, because they fear

0:49:220:49:29

the army. It required mobilisation

on Friday night to get them on the

0:49:290:49:35

streets. People are nervous. People

know, it's beginning to think now

0:49:350:49:42

that really they are dealing with

the same problems that they thought

0:49:420:49:45

was over.

What is the future for

Zimbabwe now, more generally? People

0:49:450:49:50

obviously had great hopes yesterday,

those hopes, have they been

0:49:500:49:55

dissipated?

I don't think so. On the

positive side, the Mugabe era is

0:49:550:50:02

over. That is the positive. It's how

we organise ourselves moving

0:50:020:50:05

forward.

Thank you. We are going to talk to

0:50:050:50:10

our Africa editor in a moment but

let me read Capcom the news that we

0:50:100:50:15

have had. We had that speech from

Robert Mugabe on television, on

0:50:150:50:22

Zimbabwean television, said BC,

which according to some reports said

0:50:220:50:25

he was going to resign. Reuters news

agency said he had agreed to offer

0:50:250:50:30

his resignation, but that turned out

not to be true. He is, as many

0:50:300:50:35

people have said for a very long

time, a pretty stubborn man. Our

0:50:350:50:40

Africa editor joins me now here live

in Harare.

0:50:400:50:48

An extraordinary speech in the end

from Robert Mugabe, and perhaps not

0:50:480:50:51

what we were expecting?

I don't

think anyone expected it. I think

0:50:510:50:56

the only person who didn't believe

Robert Mugabe was going to resign

0:50:560:50:59

his Robert Mugabe, and probably his

wife, Grace Mugabe. Having watched

0:50:590:51:03

what has happened over the last few

days here, you have had the people

0:51:030:51:06

on the streets yesterday in their

tens of thousands, the Central

0:51:060:51:10

committee, which he dominated for 37

years, ruling he should be removed

0:51:100:51:13

from the presidency of the party,

and setting in train threats to

0:51:130:51:18

impeach him by next Monday. And then

tonight, in spite of all of that, he

0:51:180:51:23

appears on television and he says, I

will preside over the party Congress

0:51:230:51:27

in December, in three weeks' time.

One has to stand back a bit from the

0:51:270:51:33

natural sense of deflation that you

get from members of the public, and

0:51:330:51:38

not just people who are members of

the opposition. What your previous

0:51:380:51:42

guest said, it is the end of the era

of Mugabe but he has managed,

0:51:420:51:47

probably by playing an international

card, probably by saying, look, it

0:51:470:51:51

is the policy of the African union

and the international community that

0:51:510:51:56

leaders are not removed by coups. He

has bought himself some extra time.

0:51:560:51:59

But does anyone believe, given the

strength of feeling in the party and

0:51:590:52:03

on the streets, that he is going to

end your as president of Zimbabwe

0:52:030:52:08

question not know. I'm willing in

terms of analysis to say no, that's

0:52:080:52:13

not going to happen.

You talked

about frustrated the people will be.

0:52:130:52:17

We saw people power on the streets

in Harare. A call from the War

0:52:170:52:23

Veterans to come back onto the

streets on Wednesday, but it doesn't

0:52:230:52:26

look like Robert Mugabe listens to

the people, certainly not the people

0:52:260:52:30

demonstrating yesterday demanding

that he goes.

It has never been his

0:52:300:52:34

style, Hadzic question not listening

to the people. That is not the kind

0:52:340:52:38

of politics... He is a graduate of

the revolutionary politics of the

0:52:380:52:42

50s and 60s, trained in Leninist

principles are power. You control

0:52:420:52:49

party organs and the military and

the security forces. The key is he

0:52:490:52:53

doesn't control any of those animal.

That's why I am saying to you, yes,

0:52:530:52:57

tonight is a big anticlimax for many

people who came onto the streets,

0:52:570:53:01

but it is not the end of the story

of Robert Mugabe's departure. When

0:53:010:53:05

you have the party calling for

people to come out on the streets,

0:53:050:53:11

they are potentially worrying

dynamics. All the excitement we saw

0:53:110:53:14

yesterday, all of those people who

believe change was imminent, that it

0:53:140:53:18

was going to come in a matter of

days, if not hours, when that is

0:53:180:53:22

brought onto the streets, it be

problematic.

0:53:220:53:25

One more question. Impeachment is

what he has been threatened with by

0:53:250:53:31

Zanu-PF. They say if he doesn't

resign by midday tomorrow, which are

0:53:310:53:35

clearly won't do, that is when the

impeachment process begins. Will

0:53:350:53:39

that get rid of him and how quickly

would it get rid of him?

Potentially

0:53:390:53:43

possible they might go ahead with

this. The other possibility is you

0:53:430:53:47

will get some kind of fudge. There

will be a lot of talking now between

0:53:470:53:50

the leaders of the military and the

other branches of the state security

0:53:500:53:55

forces. The War Veterans and the

party itself. Remember, the man we

0:53:550:53:59

haven't mentioned so far, Emmerson

Mnangagwa. The heir apparent that

0:53:590:54:04

the party wants to replace Robert

Mugabe. He is going to have eight he

0:54:040:54:08

say in whether that impeachment

process goes ahead or not. It is

0:54:080:54:10

still a very top-down party,

Zanu-PF. He is the new top. If he

0:54:100:54:16

decides, I can wait another few

weeks for this party Congress to

0:54:160:54:21

appoint me, I suspect the party will

fall into line. Whether the people

0:54:210:54:24

will is another matter.

Thank you

very much indeed. Fergal Keane with

0:54:240:54:29

the very latest. It has been another

extraordinary day here in Zimbabwe.

0:54:290:54:35

First of all, the day starting with

Zanu-PF's Central committee deposing

0:54:350:54:40

Robert Mugabe after 37 years as the

leader of the party. And then

0:54:400:54:46

issuing an ultimatum that if he

doesn't resign by midday tomorrow

0:54:460:54:49

local time, he would be facing

impeachment proceedings. He made

0:54:490:54:54

that TV address on Zimbabwean

television this evening and didn't

0:54:540:54:57

say he would resign. He is not going

that will disappoint many millions

0:54:570:55:02

of Zimbabweans. That is the latest

from here in Harare with the BBC

0:55:020:55:06

special coverage. Back to the

studio.

0:55:060:55:09

A good deal of sunshine today but

pictures like this are going to be

0:55:150:55:19

few and far between in the week

ahead. The sunshine that many of us

0:55:190:55:22

have enjoyed today is about to be

replaced by something cloudier,

0:55:220:55:27

milder and wetter. Our weather over

the coming week is going to be

0:55:270:55:30

coming in from off the Atlantic.

This is the next frontal system.

0:55:300:55:34

Ahead of it, some clear skies this

evening in the eastern side of the

0:55:340:55:38

country, meaning an early frost.

Eventually the cloud will build, Al

0:55:380:55:42

brings a rain heading into Northern

Ireland, northern England and

0:55:420:55:44

Scotland, where we will see some

snow on the mountains and some

0:55:440:55:48

outbreaks of rain in Wales and the

Midlands, but quite patchy. Cold in

0:55:480:55:52

Northern Ireland and Scotland, 4-5.

Much milder further south,

0:55:520:55:58

particular converter Reeson morning.

Quite a wet start the day across

0:55:580:56:02

much of northern England, northern

England and Scotland. Further south,

0:56:020:56:06

more cloudier and breezy but mainly

dry. A little bit of patchy rain but

0:56:060:56:10

look at the temperatures compared to

morning. Some outbreaks of rain in

0:56:100:56:16

East Anglia, and it will be slow to

clear here. A cool start the day.

0:56:160:56:19

Rain slyly easing from Northern

Ireland. It will take its time to go

0:56:190:56:26

from northern Scotland. Snow above

400 metres. The rains slowly clears

0:56:260:56:31

eastwards through the day that takes

its time to go from parts of

0:56:310:56:35

northern England, the Midlands and

eastern parts of England. The south

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and West, some patchy outbreaks of

rain in the afternoon. Once that

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rain clears, some brighter skies.

Much milder, 12-13, but still in

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some colder air across Scotland and

Northern Ireland. There has been a

0:56:480:56:51

battle going on between the cold air

to the eastern something milder to

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the west. In the coming days, that

milder air will generally win

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through. It is quite unsettled.

This is the picture as they go into

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Tuesday, another frontal system

pushing its way across,

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strengthening the wind and bringing

some outbreaks of rain, mainly to

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Scotland, Northern Ireland and

northern England in the morning,

0:57:090:57:13

arriving in Wales in south-west

England later. By and large, the

0:57:130:57:16

further south unease, holding onto

something drier. 12-14 for most of

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us. Through much of us this week 's

wet and windy weather, driest for a

0:57:230:57:28

time in the south and east but all

of seeing something a milder.

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This is BBC News.

1:00:181:00:23

I am Ben Brown reporting live from

Harare and the continuing crisis in

1:00:231:00:27

Zimbabwe. The news is that President

Robert Mugabe has made a televised

1:00:271:00:35

address in which he has refused to

resign. He vowed to stay on in power

1:00:351:00:42

until December, for the special

Congress of the ruling Zanu-PF

1:00:421:00:46

party. Against some expectations

that he would step down after huge

1:00:461:00:51

pressure and the military takeover

here last Wednesday, he did not say

1:00:511:00:54

anything about resigning and he did

not even refer to it. It was a long

1:00:541:01:01

and rambling speech. It will

disappoint many people in this

1:01:011:01:04

country who had marched against him

yesterday, taking to the streets in

1:01:041:01:10

their tens of thousands here in

Harare and also Bulawayo, amid

1:01:101:01:17

euphoric and joyful scenes because

protesters believed the Army had

1:01:171:01:19

finally toppled Mr Mugabe with his

takeover. But in his address, Mr

1:01:191:01:26

Mugabe said that military action in

Harare was not a threat to his

1:01:261:01:31

authority as Head of State. This is

what he had to say.

1:01:311:01:40

Intergenerational conflict must be

resolved through harmonised melding

1:01:401:01:52

of old established players, as they

embrace and welcome new rules. New

1:01:521:02:02

ones through a well-defined sense of

hierarchy and succession. Indeed,

1:02:021:02:13

all these matters will be discussed

and settled at the forthcoming

1:02:131:02:22

Congress, within the framework of a

clear road map that seeks to resolve

1:02:221:02:30

once and for all any other missions

or contradictions that have affected

1:02:301:02:40

our party negatively. The Congress

is due in a few weeks from now. I

1:02:401:02:51

will preside over its processes,

which must not be repossessed by any

1:02:511:03:00

axe calculated to undermine it. Or

to compromise the outcomes in the

1:03:001:03:13

eyes of the public.

1:03:131:03:17

That was Robert Mugabe addressing

the nation. There have been reports

1:03:171:03:21

on one news agency that he had

agreed to resign, but those turned

1:03:211:03:25

out to be erroneous. He has not and

many people have said for a very

1:03:251:03:29

long time he is a stubborn man and

so he has proved to be once again.

1:03:291:03:34

In response to that speech tonight

where he has refused to resign, the

1:03:341:03:39

leader of the war veterans who

fought alongside Mr Mugabe in the

1:03:391:03:42

War of Independence and liberation

has said the impeachment process

1:03:421:03:46

against the President must now begin

if he will not resign, and he called

1:03:461:03:49

upon people to take to the streets

again as they did yesterday, on

1:03:491:03:54

Wednesday, to demand his

resignation. This is his meeting

1:03:541:03:59

earlier today with the generals. The

military from the Zimbabwe defence

1:03:591:04:06

forces who launched this military

takeover against him last Wednesday.

1:04:061:04:10

These are the pictures from inside

Statehouse, the official residence.

1:04:101:04:15

The generals again trying to

persuade him to resign with some

1:04:151:04:19

dignity of his own free world, to

leave office. But they failed in

1:04:191:04:23

those attempts. And the alternative

does now look like impeachment,

1:04:231:04:28

which may begin on Tuesday in the

Zimbabwean Parliament. It would

1:04:281:04:33

require a two thirds majority vote

in both houses of the Parliament to

1:04:331:04:37

impeachment him as nobody knows how

long the process might take. That's

1:04:371:04:42

what our Southern Africa

correspondence, a long-time observer

1:04:421:04:47

who has met Robert Mugabe down the

years. We use surprised by his

1:04:471:04:53

refusal to stand down -- were you

surprised?

Well, in a general sense,

1:04:531:05:02

I was, but in the true sense, I was

not. Because Robert Mugabe, as we

1:05:021:05:08

have always known him, is a very

tough man. He does not give in

1:05:081:05:15

easily. There was no way, as far as

his history is concerned, he was

1:05:151:05:21

going to just voluntarily resign.

Given the events of the last week,

1:05:211:05:28

there was no way that he would

resign, having had meetings with the

1:05:281:05:32

Southern African development

community envoys sent by President

1:05:321:05:38

Jacob Zuma, two of them, the

Minister of defence, Minister of

1:05:381:05:42

intelligence, his own military

chiefs were there, who he has known

1:05:421:05:47

for years. He never gave an

instrument those negotiations. And

1:05:471:05:51

today, we saw that his party sacked

him as head of Zanu-PF. He still did

1:05:511:05:58

not give them. So quite clearly,

Robert Mugabe is still holding the

1:05:581:06:04

idea that he has always held before.

He wants to die in office. And we

1:06:041:06:10

know that many people, not just in

Zimbabwe, but across the region and

1:06:101:06:14

across the continent, are

disappointed by this no resignation

1:06:141:06:18

speech.

Yes, he is vowing to stay on at

1:06:181:06:26

least for a few weeks. He talked

about presiding over the Zanu-PF

1:06:261:06:31

Party Congress in December. Which is

extraordinary really since Zanu-PF

1:06:311:06:36

have just sacked or dismissed him as

their party leader today and given

1:06:361:06:39

him an ultimatum, where they said,

if you don't resign by midday

1:06:391:06:45

tomorrow local time, we are going to

impeach you, or Parliament is. It is

1:06:451:06:49

almost as if he is not to anybody.

Yes, and that is exactly the point.

1:06:491:06:57

President Robert Mugabe trusts his

own instincts, he trusts his own

1:06:571:07:01

thinking. He thinks that he is

correct and the rest of the people

1:07:011:07:06

wrong. And that is why he has not

listened to anyone in that room and

1:07:061:07:12

that is if they were telling him to

resign, and there has never been any

1:07:121:07:17

official confirmation of the

proceedings in those negotiations.

1:07:171:07:21

But remember, there is a tank parked

outside his house, he cannot go

1:07:211:07:27

anywhere as freely as he would like.

They only allowed to go to the

1:07:271:07:31

university for that ceremony. So we

are in a predicament here and that

1:07:311:07:36

is why this meeting that President

Zuma is going to attend in Rwanda on

1:07:361:07:42

Tuesday, in Angola, is important.

The region is trying to figure out

1:07:421:07:48

how to resolve the Zimbabwe crisis.

Everybody had hoped Robert Mugabe

1:07:481:07:51

would resign tonight, but that was

to be.

1:07:511:07:57

And the fact that it is not to be,

how disappointing will that be for

1:07:571:08:04

the people of Zimbabwe, particularly

the people who demonstrated in huge

1:08:041:08:09

numbers here yesterday? We saw the

euphoria, that is going to be

1:08:091:08:15

replaced now, one representative

Zanu-PF said he was heartbroken.

1:08:151:08:18

There is going to be heartbreak and

anger.

Yes, very much and that is

1:08:181:08:24

correct. For example, in South

Africa, there are millions of

1:08:241:08:30

Zimbabweans who are economic

refugees here and they would quite

1:08:301:08:32

like to go back home as soon as

things are normal and the economy

1:08:321:08:37

can grow again. Because they believe

part of the collapse of the economy

1:08:371:08:42

was created by the dictatorship of

Robert Mugabe. But also, remember,

1:08:421:08:48

there is this part of that community

that still respects Robert Mugabe

1:08:481:08:51

for the role he played in the

liberation struggle against white

1:08:511:08:57

minority rule. He was imprisoned for

ten years, he fought his way through

1:08:571:09:05

until Zimbabweans gained their own

independence in 1980. So there is a

1:09:051:09:11

section of people who still respect

him, it even though they want him to

1:09:111:09:15

step down so that their lives can

move on. And that is why we do not

1:09:151:09:20

have a Gaddafi moment today.

We don't have a Gaddafi moment and I

1:09:201:09:27

suppose maybe we have been writing

Robert Gabby's political obituary

1:09:271:09:31

today premature -- Robert Mugabe.

Let's be clear. Robert Mugabe has

1:09:311:09:42

reached a cul-de-sac. Whether he did

not resign tonight and he stays on,

1:09:421:09:45

it is quite clear that there is very

little room for him to move on now.

1:09:451:09:52

He is just showing his deep sense of

commitment to what he believes in.

1:09:521:09:57

He wants to stay in power. But there

is no way he can survive this week,

1:09:571:10:02

there is no way and Bob way can go

back to where it was last month, for

1:10:021:10:07

example. So he is in a difficult

place. I am sure you were wondering,

1:10:071:10:13

where was Mrs Grace Mugabe in those

pictures? We saw the military

1:10:131:10:18

officers. She triggered the sequence

of events we have been following for

1:10:181:10:22

the last few days. It was she who

made the military decide that they

1:10:221:10:26

are not going to support her

potential rising to the top job. She

1:10:261:10:34

was nowhere to be found today and we

are wondering where she was at this

1:10:341:10:38

crucial live TV speech.

Thank you very much for your

1:10:381:10:44

analysis. Our Southern Africa

correspondent. It was a long and

1:10:441:10:49

slightly strange speech from

President Macron to this evening.

1:10:491:10:54

Certainly not what most of the

nation and maybe the world were

1:10:541:11:00

expecting -- President Robert

Mugabe. He said the military

1:11:001:11:03

takeover was not a threat to his

authority as Head of State and he

1:11:031:11:07

talked about being around as head of

country for the Zanu-PF Congress in

1:11:071:11:12

December. This is what else he had

to say.

The way forward cannot be

1:11:121:11:18

based on swapping, vying cliques

that ride roughshod over party rules

1:11:181:11:29

and procedures. There has to be a

net return to the guiding principles

1:11:291:11:37

of our party. As enshrined in its

constitution. Which must apply early

1:11:371:11:47

and equitably in all situations --

fairly and equitably. And before all

1:11:471:11:54

members. The era of victimisation

and arbitrary decisions must be put

1:11:541:12:04

behind. So as we all embrace a new

ethos predicated on the supreme law

1:12:041:12:20

of our party.

1:12:201:12:25

That is Robert Mugabe with his

televised address this evening in

1:12:251:12:28

Zimbabwe, resisting the pressure on

him to resign that we have seen from

1:12:281:12:33

the military, from Zanu-PF, the

ruling party here who have sacked

1:12:331:12:36

him today as their party leader, and

from the people who have

1:12:361:12:40

demonstrated in the many thousands

out on the streets yesterday,

1:12:401:12:44

demanding that he resigned. Let's

talk to Doctor Sue Onslow who has

1:12:441:12:48

followed the career of Robert Mugabe

and sheets from the Institute of

1:12:481:12:53

Commonwealth studies in London.

Thank you very much. Are you

1:12:531:12:57

surprised that he has refused to bow

to all that pressure and he is

1:12:571:13:01

staying in the job, for now at

least, technically still President

1:13:011:13:04

of Zimbabwe?

I must admit, I

listened to his address with growing

1:13:041:13:11

disbelief, but thinking, he has done

it again. I was thinking at

1:13:111:13:15

lunchtime, this is going to be a

very difficult President to oust

1:13:151:13:19

from office and he has proved me

right yet again, I suppose, in that

1:13:191:13:25

particular respect. I thought it was

very interesting reading the press

1:13:251:13:29

statement by the Central committee,

the decision this morning, that he

1:13:291:13:35

has been dismissed as their leader,

but not expelled from the party. He

1:13:351:13:42

has raised the stakes yet again in

saying that he wants to go in his

1:13:421:13:46

own time and saying he will preside

over the special Congress which will

1:13:461:13:49

be held on the 12th of December. I

am going to be very interested

1:13:491:13:55

tomorrow to see whether they will

initiate proceedings which raises

1:13:551:14:00

the stakes yet again. But your other

point made reference to Grace

1:14:001:14:05

Mugabe. She has been expelled from

the party along with 19 other

1:14:051:14:10

members of the group. She has been

picked out as leader of the women's

1:14:101:14:16

league. In other words, she has been

removed from the equation,

1:14:161:14:20

completely and utterly. And going

through that long and rambling

1:14:201:14:24

speech, he was making gestures of

being penitent. And emphasising

1:14:241:14:33

constitutionalism, the party was

paramount. Unity was paramount,

1:14:331:14:37

learning from previous mistakes and

arbitrary decisions that might have

1:14:371:14:40

crept in here and there, he used

that phrase. So this is a man

1:14:401:14:45

listening to his own counsel and who

is a long-standing taskmaster of

1:14:451:14:53

political manipulation and

determined that he will go, if you

1:14:531:14:56

can, at a point of his own choosing.

Now, that is of course increasingly

1:14:561:15:00

constrained around him. Emmerson

Mnangagwa, having replaced Robert

1:15:001:15:07

Mugabe as President, first secretary

of the party, is he going to choose

1:15:071:15:13

this? He will go for the long game I

think and say, if we can wait

1:15:131:15:17

another couple of weeks, I would

think he is encouraging a

1:15:171:15:24

constitutional and rule-bound

procedure precisely because this is

1:15:241:15:29

within African union structures and

approaches.

They may want to abide

1:15:291:15:38

by the rules but the people out on

the streets demonstrating here in

1:15:381:15:44

Harare yesterday, they are going to

be hugely disappointed and angry.

1:15:441:15:49

There has been a call for another

big demonstration on Wednesday. You

1:15:491:15:53

just wonder how the anger is going

to be channelled after tonight.

1:15:531:15:59

That was my other thought

immediately, I listened to the

1:15:591:16:02

speech and I was in touch with my

co-author and I said, I think this

1:16:021:16:06

could get ugly. And that really

troubles me. Because as your

1:16:061:16:11

previous commentators said, the

hope, the euphoria, there was an

1:16:111:16:20

amalgam of euphoria and hope and

expectation, in that massive

1:16:201:16:25

demonstration and demonstrations

elsewhere. In London as well.

1:16:251:16:29

People's hopes riding high that

there would be a symbolic shift in

1:16:291:16:33

Robert Mugabe's departure and now

there is a sense among some quarters

1:16:331:16:38

of being cheated. Some say, yes, the

party is back United and moving

1:16:381:16:43

forward, I would say it is a very

complex surge of emotion is going on

1:16:431:16:49

in Harare right now.

Yes, and what about the impeachment

1:16:491:16:57

process? That is what is being

threatened by Zanu-PF, the party

1:16:571:17:01

that has dumped him as party leader.

They have said he will be impeached

1:17:011:17:06

because he will not resign. Do you

think Parliament will do that and

1:17:061:17:10

can do that and if they can, how

quickly can they do that?

1:17:101:17:14

Well, that was the message coming

through should he not resign, that

1:17:141:17:21

the Chief Whip Zanu-PF would

institute proceedings in Parliament.

1:17:211:17:24

And not only was there a decision to

purge the G-force Tielemans, but the

1:17:241:17:36

G-force T provincial party

structures of the state have been

1:17:361:17:43

removed and the team have been

reinstated, so there has been a

1:17:431:17:47

reconfiguration in Parliament. A

strong message sent by the party.

1:17:471:17:50

What I don't know whether they would

indeed decide to go for impeachment

1:17:501:17:55

or whether one of the key deals find

the scenes has been, OK, we will

1:17:551:18:01

allow YouTube reside over the

special Congress in December, which

1:18:011:18:06

will lead to the formal succession

choice, decided by the party,

1:18:061:18:10

because Robert Mugabe has always

said he personally could not

1:18:101:18:14

designate his successor. So it would

always be a party decision. And it

1:18:141:18:17

would seem to me that the

configuration of power in the Army,

1:18:171:18:26

also with Emmerson Mnangagwa in

conversation also with South Africa,

1:18:261:18:31

has been to play a slightly longer

game. But back to my earlier point.

1:18:311:18:40

The need is for speed of political

transition, the need for a stable

1:18:401:18:45

decision, and environment, so they

can start to address the economic

1:18:451:18:50

problems confronting Zimbabwe.

Thank you very much indeed. Doctor

1:18:501:18:59

Sue Onslow, from the Institute of

Commonwealth studies. Let's just

1:18:591:19:04

recap where we are on this

extraordinary day in Zimbabwe. After

1:19:041:19:09

those demonstrations we were talking

about on the streets yesterday, when

1:19:091:19:12

there was a mood of great euphoria

and a sense that people power had

1:19:121:19:17

managed to topple Robert Mugabe.

That was the thought of the

1:19:171:19:21

thousands of demonstrators who took

to the streets. Well, they have been

1:19:211:19:25

frustrated and disappointed. And

today, we had the Zanu-PF Central

1:19:251:19:35

committee, we had the extraordinary

news that they were dumping him as

1:19:351:19:42

party leader. And there was an

expectation when he made his speech

1:19:421:19:46

this morning on television, on ZBC,

that he would announce his

1:19:461:19:52

resignation. That was not to be and

he said he is staying until the

1:19:521:19:56

Party Congress next month. So at

least for EP weeks. Let's bring in

1:19:561:20:01

our Southern Africa correspondent in

Harare. You listened to that

1:20:011:20:08

extraordinary speech, rather

rambling at times from Robert

1:20:081:20:12

Mugabe. We use surprised he has

decided not to resign and he is

1:20:121:20:18

staying put, this is classic,

stubborn Robert Mugabe?

It was

1:20:181:20:23

baffling. Everybody expected one

thing and yet it is the choreography

1:20:231:20:26

now we're looking at. Why did he not

go then? His sense of himself, his

1:20:261:20:34

dignity, is clearly fundamental to

all of this. This is a 93-year-old

1:20:341:20:37

who could have gone longer know --

long ago and organised a succession,

1:20:371:20:44

how does he dig himself out of this

hole? We know that Zanu-PF, the

1:20:441:20:49

party, has already abandoned him

coming he knows that. Though the

1:20:491:20:53

night, perhaps it was about giving

the general is the all clear. He was

1:20:531:20:57

very explicit and he said at no

point had his own sense of himself

1:20:571:21:02

as the President been challenged.

That there was no breaking the

1:21:021:21:06

constitutional order. So he has

given them the all clear. We all

1:21:061:21:11

thought that was the moment he would

say, and so, after today's

1:21:111:21:16

extraordinary events and yesterday's

public marches, I will go. But

1:21:161:21:20

perhaps we are being too hasty.

Perhaps we need to see this either

1:21:201:21:25

as a staged event where perhaps in

the next day or two he will resign,

1:21:251:21:29

or maybe he will simply, stubbornly

push Zanu-PF to do what it has now

1:21:291:21:35

said it will do tomorrow. Tuesday in

particular. To start impeachment

1:21:351:21:42

proceedings. The thing about

impeachment proceedings, one

1:21:421:21:45

imagines a quick vote in Parliament

and he is out, but it will take a

1:21:451:21:49

bit longer and it could drag out for

days, if not longer. So he can buy

1:21:491:21:56

himself time. And he was very

specific tonight about wanting to

1:21:561:22:00

get to that Party Congress in

December. And saying, I will

1:22:001:22:05

preside. There was a little madness

almost because clearly, the reality,

1:22:051:22:10

the world has changed. In his bubble

which is also clearly, this bubble

1:22:101:22:15

of self-importance, of a man who has

never been challenged. In this

1:22:151:22:20

context, 437 years. Now he has got

to find way to explain to himself

1:22:201:22:26

that he has no power, at least in

the party left. Thank you very much

1:22:261:22:30

indeed.

Andrew Harding, our Southern

African correspondent. It seemed at

1:22:301:22:38

times that Robert Mugabe is living

in a parallel universe, especially

1:22:381:22:41

when he said the military takeover

was not a threat to his authority as

1:22:411:22:44

Head of State. But let's bring in

the representative in the UK

1:22:441:22:52

Zanu-PF, the party that has

dismissed Mr Mugabe as party leader.

1:22:521:22:57

What was your reaction when you

heard that speech, Mr Mnangagwa, and

1:22:571:23:02

you heard he is not going to resign?

I waited with bated breath, hoping

1:23:021:23:08

at some point the speech would take

a turn and I would think, OK, we are

1:23:081:23:14

getting there now. But as I

continued to listen, he was

1:23:141:23:21

basically saying, we have learned

lessons. Hello! You have learned

1:23:211:23:25

lessons for how long? After how

long? And to do what? Within what

1:23:251:23:32

time you have? And at what age? It

did not make sense. And also, the

1:23:321:23:37

fact that he completely ignored

today's events, ignored them or he

1:23:371:23:43

did not even know that he is no

longer the Zanu-PF leader. He is no

1:23:431:23:49

longer the first secretary and

President, somebody else has been

1:23:491:23:52

put in place of him. He is not aware

that over 200 members of his own

1:23:521:23:57

Central Committee, out of 300,

dismissed him. And he believed that

1:23:571:24:03

he could just walk into that

Congress and chair it and steer it

1:24:031:24:11

his way as he normally does. It was

like he is lacking awareness of

1:24:111:24:20

where he was and who was surrounding

him. Because totally, the pressure

1:24:201:24:24

from the commanders seemed to not

have brought any end results.

1:24:241:24:33

Nothing. So I don't know. But the

point still remains. It does not

1:24:331:24:41

change that President Robert Mugabe,

is he still is, is no longer the

1:24:411:24:47

President Zanu-PF, no longer the

first secretary of Zanu-PF. He will

1:24:471:24:50

not preside over the Congress that

is coming. And he was trying to

1:24:501:24:54

articulate his own agenda for that

Congress. He is not going to

1:24:541:24:58

articulate an agenda for that

Congress is the agenda has been set

1:24:581:25:02

by the Central Committee today,

which has nothing to do with the

1:25:021:25:05

issues he is raising. The issues

that are coming to the Zanu-PF

1:25:051:25:11

constitution, they have been set

today by the right Central

1:25:111:25:14

Committee. And we no longer have

that power he is trying to use to

1:25:141:25:24

impose well.

We're running out of time, but thank

1:25:241:25:28

you very much for your analysis.

From Zanu-PF, the Zanu-PF

1:25:281:25:34

representative in London. With his

analysis of what has been an

1:25:341:25:38

extraordinary speech from President

Robert Mugabe, and he is still

1:25:381:25:45

President Robert Mugabe, the oldest

Head of State still at the age of

1:25:451:25:48

93. He has refused to bow to

pressure from the people, from the

1:25:481:25:53

party, from the Army, for him to

resign. He is staying in office.

1:25:531:25:58

Stubbornly, some would say. But that

is the very latest from Harare. You

1:25:581:26:01

are watching BBC News.

1:26:011:26:03

It may have been a cold weekend, but

it ended on a final note for many

1:26:071:26:11

today, a lot of dry weather around

and sunshine as we can see from

1:26:111:26:15

these pictures from the Isle of

Wight to Orkney. A lot of cloud

1:26:151:26:19

moved into Western part of the UK so

that is going to wind out over

1:26:191:26:23

night. After a chilly start across

eastern parts, temperatures rise

1:26:231:26:29

tonight with the cloud moving in and

rein in Northern Ireland, Scotland,

1:26:291:26:33

Northern England, Wales and the

Midlands and East Anglia. Light and

1:26:331:26:36

patchy in Southern England. Still

some cold air in place in Scotland.

1:26:361:26:42

As the wet weather moves in, we will

see some snow. The hills, North of

1:26:421:26:48

the Central Belt, Bob 400 m and a

messy start to Monday across

1:26:481:26:51

Scotland with rain and heavy rain in

places. The higher you go, North of

1:26:511:26:57

the central bolt. Outbreaks of rain

in Northern Ireland, Northern

1:26:571:27:01

England and eastern England. For

much of Southern England, the

1:27:011:27:04

Midlands and Wales, the overnight

rain is light and patchy. But plenty

1:27:041:27:09

of cloud. Look how mild it is to

start the day! So different from how

1:27:091:27:13

Sunday started. On Monday, after a

wet start for some, gradually

1:27:131:27:19

turning drier. It takes a while to

get rid of the rein in Northern

1:27:191:27:22

England but it improves in the

afternoon, brighter breaks to the

1:27:221:27:26

East of high ground in the UK

possible. A lot of cloud through the

1:27:261:27:30

day. Patchy light rain and drizzle

into the afternoon in some spots.

1:27:301:27:34

Most of us will be milder but still

single figure temperatures in

1:27:341:27:38

Scotland. This is Monday evening, a

lot of cloud -- a lot of cloud,

1:27:381:27:42

patchy rain. The cloud moves through

Northern England and in the Scotland

1:27:421:27:47

through the night and into Tuesday.

Milder air eventually reaching

1:27:471:27:51

Scotland means any snow turning the

rain across most of the hills during

1:27:511:27:55

Tuesday. The wind is picking up

across the board and more rain

1:27:551:28:00

working South East across England

and Wales through Tuesday.

1:28:001:28:04

Temperatures higher even in

Scotland. But elsewhere, 12-14d. The

1:28:041:28:08

big picture Tuesday and Wednesday,

dominated by low pressure. The wind

1:28:081:28:13

is getting stronger. The second half

of the week quite turbulent. Low

1:28:131:28:17

pressure giving wet and windy

conditions at at times. This week,

1:28:171:28:21

it is turning milder with quite a

bit of wet weather around and

1:28:211:28:24

midweek, wet and windy.

1:28:241:28:26

Hello.

1:29:371:29:38

This is BBC News.

1:29:381:29:43

The President of Zimbabwe,

Robert Mugabe, clings

1:29:431:29:45

on to power after failing

to announce his resignation in

1:29:451:29:51

Flanked by military chiefs,

he said he intended to chair

1:29:511:29:53

the congress of the ruling Zanu-PF

party next month.

1:29:531:29:56

In doing so, he defied an ultimatum

by the party to resign by tomorrow.

1:29:561:30:02

The leader of Zimbabwe's war

veterans says plans to impeach

1:30:021:30:05

the 93-year-old will go ahead,

with demonstrations expected

1:30:051:30:07

on the streets of the capital

Harare on Wednesday.

1:30:071:30:12

In other news, police say

a postmortem examination carried out

1:30:121:30:17

on the body of the teenager,

Gaia Pope, hasn't identified any

1:30:171:30:21

injuries to suggest another person

was involved in her death.

1:30:211:30:31

More now on our top story,

in an extraordinary day in Zimbabwe,

1:30:311:30:35

President Robert Mugabe has NOT

resigned from power

1:30:351:30:39

despite pressure on him to do

so from within his own party.

1:30:391:30:49

At just after 7 O'Clock London time,

President Mugabe made

1:30:491:30:52

a televised address from his state

residence, flanked by military men.

1:30:521:30:59

And despite the widespread

speculation he was about to stand

1:30:591:31:07

down, he disappointed many by not

resigning and instead

1:31:071:31:09

said he intended to lead

next month's congress

1:31:091:31:11

of the ruling party, ZANU-PF.

1:31:111:31:12

Let's listen to that

speech in full now

1:31:121:31:14

.

Hello Zimbabweans. I address you

tonight on the back of a meeting I

1:31:141:31:20

held today with the nation's

security forces command element.

1:31:201:31:31

This meeting, which was facilitated

by a mediating team, from the

1:31:311:31:44

Catholic Church followed an

operation mounted by the Zimbabwe

1:31:441:31:49

Defence Forces in the week that has

gone by. And which was triggered by

1:31:491:31:58

concerns arising from their reading

of the state of affairs in our

1:31:581:32:06

country and in the ruling ZANU-PF

party. Whatever the pros and cons,

1:32:061:32:16

the way they went about registering

those concerns, I, as the President

1:32:161:32:24

of Zimbabwe and as their

Commander-in-Chief, do acknowledge

1:32:241:32:29

the issues they have drawn my

attention to. And do believe that

1:32:291:32:35

these were raised in the spirit of

honesty and out of deep and

1:32:351:32:44

patriotic concerns for the stability

of our nation. And for the welfare

1:32:441:32:53

of our people. As I address you, I

am also aware of a whole range of

1:32:531:33:02

concerns which has come from you all

as citizens of our great country.

1:33:021:33:16

Today's meeting with the command

element has underscored the need for

1:33:181:33:29

us to collectively start processes

that return our nation to normalcy.

1:33:291:33:38

So all our people can go about their

business unhindered in an

1:33:381:33:45

environment of perfect peace and

security, assured that law and order

1:33:451:33:55

is obtained and prevail as before

and endure well into the future. If

1:33:551:34:05

there is any one observation we have

made and drawn from events of the

1:34:051:34:12

past week, it is the unshakeable

pedestal upon which rests our state

1:34:121:34:21

of peace, law and order amply

indicating that as Zimbabweans, we

1:34:211:34:34

are generally a peacefully disposed

people and can express our

1:34:341:34:44

differences and exprus our

differences with ourselves and with

1:34:441:34:46

a level of dignity, discipline and

restraint so rare to many other

1:34:461:34:51

nations. This is to be admired.

Indeed, such traits must form the

1:34:511:35:03

peace of our national character and

personality. Yes, a veritable

1:35:031:35:14

resource we summon and draw upon in

troubled times. The operation I have

1:35:141:35:23

alluded to did not amount to a

threat to our well-cherished

1:35:231:35:29

constitutional order. Nor did it

challenge to my authority as head of

1:35:291:35:35

state and government. Not even as

Commander-in-Chief of the Zimbabwe

1:35:351:35:48

Defence Forces. To a man, the

command element rebhaned respectful

1:35:481:36:02

and comported with the dictates of

constitutionalism. True, a few

1:36:021:36:09

incidences may have occurred here

and there but these have been

1:36:091:36:17

corrected. I am happy that

throughout the short period, the

1:36:171:36:25

pillars of state remain functional.

On lappier for me and arising - even

1:36:251:36:38

happier for me and arising out of

today's meeting is a strong sense of

1:36:381:36:50

collegiate and now the in the

various arms of our security

1:36:501:36:53

establishment. This should bring

greater peace and also an abiding

1:36:531:37:06

sense of security in communities and

in our entire nation. Among the

1:37:061:37:21

issues discussed, is that relating

to our economy, which, as we all

1:37:211:37:29

know is going through a difficult

patch.

1:37:291:37:40

Of great concern (inaudible)

operations of all importance.

1:37:431:37:57

(Inaudible)

1:37:581:38:06

... Between high rapging officials

in the party and in Government,

1:38:071:38:17

exacerbated by multiple conflicting

messages from both the party and

1:38:171:38:23

Government - high ranking officials,

made the criticisms levelled against

1:38:231:38:27

us inescapable. Amidst all this,

projects already adopted by

1:38:271:38:43

government stood stalled, needless

controversies. All this now has to

1:38:431:38:47

stopped as we inaugurate a new work

culture and pace which will show a

1:38:471:38:56

strong sense of purpose and

commitment to turning around our

1:38:561:39:07

economy in terms of our policies.

The Government remains committed to

1:39:071:39:24

improving the social and material

conditions of the people. Government

1:39:241:39:38

will soon unveil an entrepreneurial

skills and business development

1:39:381:39:42

programme which will empower and

unleash gainful projects at our

1:39:421:39:48

growth points and rural areas. Tell

all Zimbabweans we are a nation born

1:39:481:39:58

out of a protracted struggle for

national independence. Our rules lie

1:39:581:40:08

in that struggle, with goals and

ideals and present and construct our

1:40:081:40:20

future.

1:40:201:40:24

Core tennants must be subscribed by

all across generations and across

1:40:291:40:32

times. Indeed, these too was a great

concern of our commanders who

1:40:321:40:43

themselves were makers of that

revolution and often at very tender

1:40:431:40:49

ages and at great personal terror.

We still have in our various

1:40:491:40:58

communities veterans of that

founding struggle. We might have

1:40:581:41:06

founded the prevailing management of

national and issues quite

1:41:061:41:13

alienating. This must be corrected

without delay, including ensuring

1:41:131:41:22

that these veterans continue to play

central roles in the lives of our

1:41:221:41:28

nation.

1:41:281:41:38

We must all recognise that our

participation in the war of

1:41:391:41:46

liberation exacted life-Long costs,

which whilst hardly repayable, may

1:41:461:41:55

still be assuaged and

Amelliouraited. In respect of the

1:41:551:42:05

party, and the party issues raised

by both of the commanders and by the

1:42:051:42:11

general membership of ZANU-PF this

too stands acknowledged. They have

1:42:111:42:20

to be attended to with a great sense

of urgency. However, I am aware that

1:42:201:42:31

as a party of liberation, ZANU-PF

has, over the years, written

1:42:311:42:38

elaborate rules and procedures that

guide the operations of all its

1:42:381:42:47

organs and its personnel. Indeed,

the current criticism raised against

1:42:471:42:59

the command element - raised against

it by the command element and some

1:42:591:43:04

of its members. Have arisen from a

well-founded perception that the

1:43:041:43:14

party was stretching or even failing

in its own rules and procedures. The

1:43:141:43:25

way forward, that cannot be based on

swapping (inaudible) that ride

1:43:251:43:38

roughshod over party rules and

procedures. There has to be a net

1:43:381:43:45

return to the guiding principles of

our party, as enshrined in its

1:43:451:43:53

constitution, which must apply

fairly and equitably in all

1:43:531:44:00

situations and before all members.

The area of victimisation and

1:44:001:44:15

arbitrary decisions must be put

behind so as we all embrace a new

1:44:151:44:26

ethos, predicated on the supreme law

of our party and nourished by an

1:44:261:44:37

abiding sense of comrade Iry. --

comradery. To all there, there must

1:44:371:44:49

be general recognition that ZANU-PF

is a party of traditions. And has

1:44:491:45:01

been served by successive

generations who are bound to the by

1:45:011:45:06

shared ideals and values which must

continue to reign supreme in our

1:45:061:45:12

nation.

1:45:121:45:22

Intergenerational conflict must be

1:45:231:45:36

resolved through harmonised melding

of old established players as they

1:45:371:45:42

embrace and welcome new rules, new

ones through a well-defined sense of

1:45:421:45:50

hierarchy and succession. Indeed,

all these matters will be discussed

1:45:501:46:01

by settled at the forthcoming

conference within the framework of a

1:46:011:46:08

clear road map that seeks to resolve

once and for all any omissions or

1:46:081:46:19

contradictions that have affected

our party neglectively.

1:46:191:46:28

In a few weeks from now, I will

preside over the processes which

1:46:321:46:39

must not be prepossessed by any acts

acts calculated to undermine it or

1:46:391:46:49

to compromise the outcomes in the

eyes of the public. I conclude this

1:46:491:46:58

address and I am aware that many

developments have occurred in the

1:46:581:47:05

party or have been championed and

done by individuals in the name of

1:47:051:47:12

the party. Given the failings of the

past and the anger this might have

1:47:121:47:25

triggered in some quarters, such as

developments - such developments are

1:47:251:47:34

quite understandable. However we

cannot be guided by bitterness or

1:47:341:47:43

vengefulness, both of which would

not make us any better party members

1:47:431:47:56

or any better Zimbabweans. Our

policy of reconciliation, which we

1:47:561:48:08

pronounced in 1980, and which

through we reached out to those who

1:48:081:48:16

had occupied and oppressed us for

nearly a century and those we had

1:48:161:48:28

traded fire with in a bitter war,

surely cannot be unavailable to our

1:48:281:48:38

own, both in the party and in our

nation. We must learn to forgive and

1:48:381:48:50

resolve contradictions, real or

perceived in a comradery Zimbabwean

1:48:501:49:01

spirit. I am confident that from

tonight our whole nation, all of us,

1:49:011:49:10

gets reforecast as we put shoulder

to the wheel amidst the promising

1:49:101:49:18

agricultural season already upon us.

Let us all move forward, reminding

1:49:181:49:35

ourselves of our war-time mantra. I

thank you and good night.

1:49:351:49:49

Sorry, one or two places I went

wrong. I hope we can correct that.

1:49:521:49:59

There we are, Robert Mugabe

essentially defying all expectation

1:49:591:50:02

in that speech earlier this evening.

So many people expecting a speech of

1:50:021:50:06

resignation but actually as you saw

there something quite different.

1:50:061:50:09

What might be described as a rather

rambling speech, some confusion tend

1:50:091:50:14

that he was even on live television,

as he apologised under his breath to

1:50:141:50:19

those around him for having stumbled

here and there and Morgan Tsvangirai

1:50:191:50:36

saying he was "baffled by his

decision not to resign." Well Ben

1:50:361:50:42

Brown spoke to the Africa editor,

Fergal Keane who gave his reaction

1:50:421:50:46

to Mugabe's speech

It is the end of

the era of Mugabe but he has managed

1:50:461:50:51

probably by playing an international

card, probably by saying it is the

1:50:511:50:56

policy of the African Union, or

international community that leaders

1:50:561:50:59

are not moved by coups, he has

managed to gain himself extra time.

1:50:591:51:04

But does anybody really believe?

Given the strength of feeling in the

1:51:041:51:07

party and on the streets that he is

going to endure as President of

1:51:071:51:11

Zimbabwe? I'm willing, in terms of

the narrative to say, no that's not

1:51:111:51:17

going to happen. You talked about

how frustrated the people will be,

1:51:171:51:20

we saw that people power on the

streets down behind us in Harare and

1:51:201:51:25

the call we gather from the war

veterans for them to come back out

1:51:251:51:27

on to the streets on Wednesday but

it doesn't look like Robert Mugabe

1:51:271:51:31

listens to the people, certainly not

to be people who were demonstrating

1:51:311:51:36

yesterday, demanding he goes. It has

never been his story, listen

1:51:361:51:39

together people. That's not the time

of politics he came up W he is a

1:51:391:51:44

graduate of the revolutionary

politics of the 40s, 50s, 60s,

1:51:441:51:51

trained in Leninist positions of

power, you control party organs, and

1:51:511:51:56

the military and security force. The

key thing is he doesn't control them

1:51:561:52:00

anybody. Tonight, yes, a big

anticlimax for many who come out on

1:52:001:52:04

to the streets but it is not the end

of the story of Robert Mugabe's

1:52:041:52:08

departure. That is going to happen.

Now, when you have the party calling

1:52:081:52:11

for people to come on to the

streets, they are potentially

1:52:111:52:15

worrying dynamics. All of that

excitement that we saw yesterday,

1:52:151:52:18

all of those people who believe that

change is imminent. That it is going

1:52:181:52:21

to come in a matter of die days, if

not hours, when it is brought on to

1:52:211:52:27

the streets, it could be

problematic. .

One more question,

1:52:271:52:32

you know, impeachment is what he is

being threatened with by ZANU-PF of

1:52:321:52:37

they have said if he doesn't resign

by midday tomorrow, which he clearly

1:52:371:52:41

isn't going to do, that's when the

impeachment begins. Will that get

1:52:411:52:45

rid of him? How quickly?

It is

potentially possibly they might go

1:52:451:52:49

ahead with this. The other

possibility is you will get some

1:52:491:52:52

kind of fudge. There will be a lot

of talking now between the leaders

1:52:521:52:57

of the military and other branches

of the state security forces, the

1:52:571:53:01

war veterans and party and something

we have not mentioned so far in this

1:53:011:53:08

conversation, the kind of heir that

the party wants to replace Robert

1:53:081:53:11

Mugabe. He will have a key say in

whether that impeachment process

1:53:111:53:15

goes ahead. It is still a very

topdown party. He is the new top. If

1:53:151:53:20

he decides - I can wait another few

weeks fear the congress to anoint

1:53:201:53:25

me, I suspect the party will fall

into line. Whether the people will,

1:53:251:53:28

is another party. The BBC's Fergal

Keane speaking to Ben Brown in

1:53:281:53:33

Harare. And earlier Ben also speak

to the representative for ZANU-PF in

1:53:331:53:39

the UK he said he was disappointed

by Robert Mugabe's speech

Robert

1:53:391:53:47

Mugabe has just rained on Zimbabwe's

par I had a, really. I think

1:53:471:53:53

everybody, every one of my

compatriots is downcast, pretty much

1:53:531:53:56

heart broken. I'm very sad because

what is going to happen from here

1:53:561:54:01

now is the humiliation of Robert

Mugabe. Big time humiliation, which

1:54:011:54:08

is something that throughout the

week I was saying we don't need and

1:54:081:54:14

it is very sad, because when the

evidence - I mean when the

1:54:141:54:18

impeachment evidence comes, it will

be very, very embarrassing and

1:54:181:54:22

humiliating. We didn't need to drag

him through this mud but he has

1:54:221:54:27

asked for T and as far as he is

concerned, he is going to preside

1:54:271:54:32

over Congress in December. That's

ridiculous. Which Congress? As far

1:54:321:54:37

as we are concerned he is not longer

President of our party. He is done.

1:54:371:54:42

At the central committee, the

highest board inside ZANU-PF,

1:54:421:54:46

outside Congress has made a

decision, he is gone. All ten of

1:54:461:54:51

them on Friday made the decision he

is gone, so whose interests is he

1:54:511:54:58

representing? Which constituents

does he represent? The military says

1:54:581:55:01

he is gone. At the moment he goes

under the title of Commander of

1:55:011:55:08

chief, because he hasn't stood down

formally but in terms of authority,

1:55:081:55:12

he is not comaerned of anybody. All

he has is an office but absolutelily

1:55:121:55:17

no authority. So, I don't know what

he is playing at.

1:55:171:55:30

As far ZANU-PF is concerned we have

a new leader. The nation will do

1:55:361:55:39

what it has to do. Impeach element

have to start on Tuesday. Let it

1:55:391:55:44

play. Both the opposition and

ZANU-PF are agreed on this, the

1:55:441:55:49

President has to step down. He is

three months away.

BEN BROWN: How

1:55:491:56:01

quickly do you think that

impeachment progress will take? How

1:56:011:56:04

long will it take? Could he be gone

within a few days? What is your

1:56:041:56:10

estimate?

I think by the end of the

week. The committee has to be set in

1:56:101:56:15

place to investigate the allegations

against him. And then it has to

1:56:151:56:19

report back and then people have to

work on T that's pretty much the

1:56:191:56:23

process. So it might not happen

overnight. It might take a few days.

1:56:231:56:29

It depends on the cooperation of all

the parties anyway.

1:56:291:56:37

The representative there from

ZANU-PF

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