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Welcome to Washington and to BBC News The Editors. Is America | :00:14. | :00:19. | |
finished as the world's superpower? Immigration, good or bad for | :00:19. | :00:25. | |
Britain? Is Russia now a rogue state? And has something gone | :00:25. | :00:35. | |
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seriously wrong with English It's almost 50 years to the very | :00:44. | :00:51. | |
day since I first came to America, a gawky, innocent 18-year-old. I | :00:51. | :00:59. | |
was absolutely blown away by the place. It seemed like -- light | :00:59. | :01:04. | |
years away from class-driven Britain. I adore this country still, | :01:04. | :01:07. | |
but it doesn't feel like the future any more. The rest of the developed | :01:07. | :01:10. | |
world has caught up with it. According to the New York times | :01:10. | :01:15. | |
Britain is now socially mobile than America and has a fairer | :01:15. | :01:19. | |
distribution of income too. Nowadays this country can sometimes | :01:19. | :01:24. | |
seem distinctly backward looking itself. President George Bush | :01:24. | :01:30. | |
banned stem cell research because Christian fundamentalists didn't | :01:30. | :01:35. | |
like it. America still executes prisoners, just like Iran, Saudi | :01:35. | :01:40. | |
Arabia and China. It has practised torture and imprisonment without | :01:40. | :01:44. | |
trial and it assasinates its enemies, just like all those | :01:44. | :01:49. | |
country it's always criticised. 50 years on, then, America is still a | :01:49. | :01:54. | |
wonderful place, but it doesn't seem to me like the pinnacle of | :01:54. | :01:57. | |
civilisation any more and its position in the world isn't what it | :01:57. | :02:04. | |
was either. In fact, is it really a superpower any longer? Mark Mardell | :02:04. | :02:13. | |
Come on, let's get the horses in. It's a land of big skies and bigger | :02:13. | :02:17. | |
dreams. Welcome to the west. It was in part the drive to the west that | :02:17. | :02:21. | |
gave the sense that America was a land of endless possibilities with | :02:21. | :02:27. | |
a unique destiny. But in the four years I've been here, there's been | :02:27. | :02:32. | |
a stampede of politicians and pundits fretting that America is in | :02:32. | :02:39. | |
decline, about to become ordinary. Its influence on the wane, head | :02:39. | :02:42. | |
over he's in debt, its infrastructure crumbling and | :02:42. | :02:50. | |
economy faltering, about to be outstripped by more dynamic rivals. | :02:50. | :02:57. | |
Even my jeans and cowboy boots were made in China. | :02:57. | :03:03. | |
The idea that a rival nation could leave the USA in the dust owe fends | :03:03. | :03:07. | |
some Americans more than it scares them and it is true America will | :03:07. | :03:12. | |
never again bestride the world the way it once did. There's a | :03:12. | :03:15. | |
rebalancing after centuries when first Europe and then the USA | :03:15. | :03:20. | |
seemed to hold all the cards, have all the power and the wealth, the | :03:20. | :03:26. | |
rise of the rest - China, India and South America, means that's already | :03:27. | :03:33. | |
history. So I'm in search of the future of | :03:33. | :03:37. | |
American power. The USA's feeling of superiority and indispencibility | :03:37. | :03:42. | |
has a lot to do with the fact that they won two world wars and the | :03:42. | :03:47. | |
Cold War. American power grew in part from a barrel of a gun or a | :03:47. | :03:52. | |
minuteman missile. Minot air base is the home to the most devastating | :03:52. | :04:01. | |
weapons in their Arsenal, ballistic missiles and B-52s to deliver a | :04:01. | :04:06. | |
nuclear bomb. What's the job of the fifth bomb wing? In one word I'd | :04:07. | :04:12. | |
say deterrence... All the mission statements said if that fails, hunt | :04:12. | :04:18. | |
down and destroy America's enemies. Chris Duff and Chris Brown are | :04:18. | :04:21. | |
navigators. Their job would be to drop the bomb. You would be the one | :04:21. | :04:27. | |
that drops the nuclear bomb? As the offence team, we're the ones | :04:28. | :04:31. | |
responsible for weapons activities, making sure we're within parameters | :04:31. | :04:35. | |
and that we're dropping the right type of weapon on the right type of | :04:35. | :04:39. | |
target. That's quite a responsibility. It is. Is American | :04:39. | :04:44. | |
power as great as it ever was? jet has been around for 50 years. | :04:44. | :04:49. | |
It's still capable of reaching out and touching anyone in the world at | :04:49. | :04:54. | |
any time. The testament to the B-52 is that we'll never have to do that | :04:54. | :04:57. | |
because people know we can do it. Do you feel confident that America | :04:57. | :05:03. | |
acts for good in the world? Yes. I'm a Christian and it's found on | :05:03. | :05:07. | |
Christian morals. I have faith in the President and my leadership | :05:07. | :05:10. | |
that they will only make that decision if they need to. America | :05:10. | :05:14. | |
still spends a lot more on its military than the rest of the world. | :05:14. | :05:18. | |
In fact add together the military budgets of China, Russia, Britain, | :05:18. | :05:23. | |
France, Japan and the next four big spenders and you still don't get | :05:23. | :05:31. | |
anywhere near America's staggering $1 trillion in 2011. Because the | :05:31. | :05:33. | |
budget is being cut but the military might represented by these | :05:33. | :05:37. | |
planes won't disappear overnight. The gap is overwhelming, it would | :05:37. | :05:47. | |
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take generations to erode, but that may be a burden not a blessing. | :05:48. | :05:52. | |
Other source of American might has been its economy and that has | :05:52. | :05:56. | |
suffered serious shocks playing second fiddle to China does seem | :05:56. | :06:01. | |
inevitable, but you wouldn't know it here. 200 years ago this was the | :06:01. | :06:06. | |
edge of the wild frontier, as America expanded to fill a | :06:06. | :06:12. | |
continent and well, to become itself and still has this frontier | :06:12. | :06:18. | |
feel here. Once again in north Dakota it's boom time. The state | :06:18. | :06:24. | |
has the lowest unemployment rate in the USA and it's all down to a huge | :06:24. | :06:29. | |
skpranction in fracking. It's a controversial technique shattering | :06:29. | :06:33. | |
rocks miles underGround Forceing them to yield their bounty of oil | :06:33. | :06:38. | |
and gas. They call this Kuwait on the prairie. Before long an | :06:38. | :06:42. | |
abundance of cheap fuel will mean America won't rely on the Middle | :06:42. | :06:48. | |
East or anyone else for its power. We're on what was the frontier, | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
America pushed to the Pacific, there's nowhere left to expand is | :06:52. | :06:57. | |
there? Sure there is exactly what we're doing here, we are expanding | :06:57. | :07:03. | |
underground. We have a new frontier. I would say that we would be very | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
short sighted if they think that's the best we can do. Isn't the truth | :07:07. | :07:10. | |
that you've had your day, the British had their day, the Greeks | :07:10. | :07:15. | |
their day. America's day is going. America's day is building. We are | :07:15. | :07:19. | |
still on the upswing. We are getting better every day and north | :07:19. | :07:24. | |
Dakota is a perfect example of just how American ingenuity is improving | :07:24. | :07:33. | |
and taking us on to the next frontierment -- Frontier. There are | :07:33. | :07:36. | |
few boundaries to the optimism of Americans, but fear of decline has | :07:36. | :07:41. | |
a political edge. This is a very young country, still growing up and | :07:41. | :07:48. | |
changing. Ran dal's family has ranched in southern Montana for | :07:48. | :07:51. | |
five generations. He's 87 and doesn't like the way things are | :07:51. | :07:55. | |
going. It don't look very good to me. This Government and politics is | :07:55. | :08:02. | |
all getting everything screwed up. I don't like the way it's going. | :08:02. | :08:09. | |
America is still the greatest and I hope it always will be. The sun is | :08:09. | :08:13. | |
setting on a certain sort of American power, but a new dawn can | :08:13. | :08:17. | |
be within reach if Americans themselves can embrace a world | :08:17. | :08:21. | |
where they no longer effortlessly outshine the rest but are still a | :08:21. | :08:31. | |
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bright point of light amid the All together then we seem to be | :08:36. | :08:41. | |
move ago way from the era of the superpower to a more open | :08:41. | :08:46. | |
international system with no one country predominating. Every major | :08:46. | :08:51. | |
power, except China, is far less exclusively national than it used | :08:51. | :08:58. | |
to be. Mass immigration has changed us all. But has it now gone too | :08:58. | :09:01. | |
far? Nick Robinson has been to the English town of Peterborough, which | :09:01. | :09:09. | |
has been changed out of all recognition by immigration. | :09:09. | :09:16. | |
This is how much of the country used to look, a typical town and | :09:16. | :09:24. | |
market, so very British, so very white. Not any more. The face of | :09:24. | :09:28. | |
Britain is changing. And nowhere more so than here in Peterborough. | :09:28. | :09:34. | |
In the last decade in this city, 24,000 immigrants moved in. That's | :09:34. | :09:41. | |
more than one in eight of the population. Over the past decade | :09:41. | :09:44. | |
more than a million eastern Europeans came to Britain and | :09:44. | :09:48. | |
stayed. Now politicians are competing to say that the country | :09:48. | :09:58. | |
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They're listening to the voices of those telling them that their towns, | :10:05. | :10:14. | |
their cities, their lives have changed. I'll be honest I want to | :10:14. | :10:18. | |
move out of Peterborough to give my son a fair chance in the schools. | :10:18. | :10:23. | |
Because obviously, you know, everyone's entitled to education, | :10:23. | :10:29. | |
but locally there is obviously so many that the classes will be | :10:29. | :10:34. | |
getting bigger and therefore, one or two schools English isn't the | :10:34. | :10:39. | |
first language. Is it just the scale? I think it is. It is just | :10:39. | :10:44. | |
such a massive, massive change and lots of people, my father very | :10:44. | :10:49. | |
rarely comes into town or his wife because they don't feel safe. | :10:49. | :10:53. | |
uncomfortable? Yes, don't feel safe because obviously, you don't know | :10:53. | :10:58. | |
what, when they talk in their native tongue, you don't know what | :10:58. | :11:02. | |
they're rabbiting. Have you got a customer? There is one hiding there. | :11:02. | :11:11. | |
How long have you been living here? I been yesterday. How long have you | :11:11. | :11:21. | |
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lived in the city. One day. Ian is very, very far from being alone, | :11:22. | :11:25. | |
about three quarters of people tell pollsters they think immigration is | :11:25. | :11:28. | |
too high. More than half of us say that we think immigration should be | :11:28. | :11:34. | |
cut by a lot. Now that's been true for a long time, but something has | :11:34. | :11:38. | |
changed in the last few years - the number of people who say the impact | :11:38. | :11:46. | |
of immigration is very bad has almost doubled. Interestingly, | :11:46. | :11:53. | |
that's a view shared by first and second generation immigrants. | :11:53. | :12:00. | |
new arrivals are not integrating as well. There's ghetto situations. | :12:00. | :12:04. | |
Parim's father came from the Punjab to Peterborough to set up this | :12:04. | :12:07. | |
stall. How different would he think Peterborough was now to what it was | :12:07. | :12:13. | |
then? I think he would be shocked. Really? Yes. I think so. Because? | :12:13. | :12:20. | |
mean, he was a very proud man, who was British in a way, he came here | :12:20. | :12:24. | |
and embraced Britain as his country. Do you see the irony in this? | :12:24. | :12:29. | |
You're a Sikh. You say the problem with the immigrants is they don't | :12:29. | :12:36. | |
mix in. That is probably in a nutshell. Here in East Anglia, | :12:36. | :12:41. | |
thousands of eastern Europeans work on the land picking fruit and veg | :12:41. | :12:45. | |
and flowers. People Steve believes help keep locals like him in their | :12:45. | :12:50. | |
jobs. People say no, we haven't got space for them, there's no room | :12:50. | :12:56. | |
here. That's a load of rubbish. There's plenty of room. We will | :12:56. | :13:03. | |
always fit them in. What if your customers said my son, grandson, | :13:03. | :13:09. | |
couldn't get a job because a Polish is taking it or Lithuanian? | :13:09. | :13:13. | |
somewhere else, work harder. decades the question of immigration | :13:14. | :13:18. | |
was linked with race, which is why mainstream politicians were so | :13:18. | :13:22. | |
terrified of the subject. But now the new influx of immigrants are | :13:22. | :13:29. | |
white and from Europe, that link has been largely broken. The | :13:29. | :13:33. | |
pressure is still on the politicians because of questions of | :13:34. | :13:43. | |
integration and whether the country is simply too full. | :13:43. | :13:47. | |
This is a Polish paper for here? Poles are known for being hard | :13:47. | :13:50. | |
workers, doing the jobs many others won't do. They're also known, | :13:50. | :13:57. | |
though, for keeping themselves to themselves. We are Polish shop, you | :13:57. | :14:00. | |
know, so that's why people are coming here, especially Polish | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
people which are not speaking English. Stkpwhri guess 40, 50 | :14:04. | :14:09. | |
years ago, Maybe new arrivals in Britain thought "We have to learn | :14:09. | :14:13. | |
English." Now we don't have to really because if you got some | :14:13. | :14:20. | |
problems you can even come to the shop. This city has already | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
successfully absorbed many waves of immigrants, including thousands of | :14:23. | :14:29. | |
Italians. One of whom is now Peterborough's political leader. My | :14:29. | :14:33. | |
sense is you're kind of a big optimist about immigration, whereas | :14:33. | :14:38. | |
I might have expected you not to be. My view is the glass is half empty | :14:38. | :14:45. | |
or half full. Now, we can't stop immigration coming to the city, as | :14:45. | :14:48. | |
a council, I cannot stop people coming here. What do you do? You | :14:48. | :14:52. | |
either say there are huge -- they're a huge problem and we want | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
them to go away or you say they're coming any way, so letsz' make the | :14:55. | :15:05. | |
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best of it. -- let's. Italians, Poles, Africans, Asians, a fifth of | :15:11. | :15:16. | |
the population of this city were born afraud. -- abroad. A tenth of | :15:16. | :15:20. | |
households speak no English. The opinion polls are clearly | :15:20. | :15:24. | |
telling politicians that people want that flow to stop or at least | :15:24. | :15:30. | |
to slow down. Perhaps, though, people are as concerned about | :15:30. | :15:34. | |
integration as they are about immigration. Because in truth, most | :15:34. | :15:39. | |
people know that Britain is not simply going to go back to the way | :15:39. | :15:49. | |
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Ever since the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, this country, | :15:59. | :16:03. | |
America, seems rather to have missed the simple certainties of | :16:03. | :16:08. | |
having one, single, major enemy. Russia now much diminished is | :16:08. | :16:15. | |
trying to find a new role too. Under Vladimir Putin, the former | :16:15. | :16:22. | |
KGB man, it's been behaving pretty questionably. Bridget Kendal asks | :16:22. | :16:32. | |
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if Russia is now actually a rogue The ultimate hangout in Moscow on a | :16:37. | :16:45. | |
Friday night. Most of them weren't even born when the Soviet Union | :16:45. | :16:50. | |
collapsed in 1991. They probably can't imagine what it was like and | :16:50. | :16:59. | |
just how dramatically this country has changed. I can travel a lot. I | :16:59. | :17:07. | |
can be where I want, so I like my life. Nowadays, you can choose your | :17:07. | :17:13. | |
job, travel abroad and own a flat, all simple rights, unthinkable for | :17:13. | :17:23. | |
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most people when this country was For over 30 years I've been coming | :17:27. | :17:32. | |
here. First as a student, then as a journalist. I can't help feeling | :17:32. | :17:38. | |
optimistic when I walk around Moscow these days. But beneath the | :17:38. | :17:42. | |
new veneer of prosperity there's a darker side. It's all to do with | :17:42. | :17:48. | |
how power at the top in Russia is wielded, as though laws and public | :17:48. | :17:52. | |
accountability matter less than security. When I was here in the | :17:52. | :17:57. | |
1980s that building, the old KGB headquarters, used to give me the | :17:57. | :18:02. | |
shivers, the seek rote state within a state that spied on its citizens | :18:02. | :18:05. | |
and controlled the country from within. It's still here and still | :18:05. | :18:10. | |
hugely poufrpl and probably bigger than ever, because it's directly | :18:10. | :18:14. | |
connected to the Russian President, Vladimir Putin, himself a former | :18:14. | :18:20. | |
KGB officer. So, is Russia a dangerous force in the world? A | :18:20. | :18:30. | |
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I've come to see one journalist who has dared to take on the secret | :18:34. | :18:40. | |
world of the FSB, as the KGB is now called. He says the Russian | :18:40. | :18:43. | |
Security Services are out of control and their tentacles stretch | :18:43. | :18:47. | |
everywhere. The Soviet Secret police was built, | :18:47. | :18:56. | |
formed to produce mass oppressions in every Russian town and cities. | :18:56. | :19:01. | |
This system was not changed with regards the new regime. It's a | :19:01. | :19:08. | |
battle between the good and the evil. It's not easy to penetrate | :19:08. | :19:12. | |
the black hole at heart of Russia and to know how high up the | :19:12. | :19:17. | |
corruption and violence go, even for those of us who have | :19:17. | :19:20. | |
interviewed Vladimir Putin, it's hard to know what makes him tick | :19:20. | :19:26. | |
and how rich he really is. Those who try to dig beneath the surface | :19:26. | :19:33. | |
tend to come to a sticky end like this journalist, gunned down in her | :19:33. | :19:42. | |
own apartment building or Alexander Litvinenko, who was poisoned in | :19:43. | :19:47. | |
London. The whistle-blowing lawyer who ended up dying in Russian | :19:47. | :19:57. | |
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police custody and now he's being In this park, they dance in the | :20:05. | :20:15. | |
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open air, just like they used to 30 years ago. Most of these pensioners | :20:15. | :20:20. | |
were reluctant to be interviewed, nervous about giving their views. | :20:20. | :20:24. | |
But Vladimir Putin has his supporters who voted him in as | :20:24. | :20:34. | |
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President three times. What do you think about your President? "He's | :20:34. | :20:40. | |
wonderful. He's made sure we get a decent pension." | :20:40. | :20:44. | |
At the Parliament, politicians loyal to Mr Putin say it's not | :20:44. | :20:52. | |
Russia which poses a threat, it's the west. We do not organise | :20:52. | :20:57. | |
Guantanamo prisons to torture people. We do not invade other | :20:57. | :21:04. | |
nations. We do not use drones to kill thousands in anti-terrorist | :21:05. | :21:10. | |
operations. Russia being evil, imperial is just part of the | :21:10. | :21:14. | |
Western psyche or the Western mentality. It's just a way the West | :21:15. | :21:20. | |
per receives -- perseives itself as different from Russia which is evil | :21:20. | :21:30. | |
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May 6 last year, the police block an anti-Putin rally in Moscow. | :21:36. | :21:39. | |
We have the constitutional right to protest peacefully this woman tells | :21:39. | :21:48. | |
them. Now the young mother is awaiting trial for provoking unrest. | :21:48. | :21:53. | |
Her flat was raided. She can't find work and she's banned from leaving | :21:53. | :21:59. | |
Moscow. That's the worst thing. I can't find no work inside Moscow | :21:59. | :22:05. | |
and I can't go outside of Moscow. Do you feel scared now? You have a | :22:05. | :22:09. | |
small son? I'm scared. I have a small son. They told me that they | :22:09. | :22:13. | |
are going to kill me. Of course, I realised that these are just phone | :22:13. | :22:19. | |
calls. You are scared when something tells you that you are | :22:19. | :22:26. | |
going to die. But strong-arm tactics don't | :22:26. | :22:30. | |
necessarily mean the Russian state is in control. The posturing is | :22:30. | :22:34. | |
more a sign of weakness than strength of a system that's | :22:34. | :22:37. | |
politically dysfunctional and corrupt. I don't think you can call | :22:38. | :22:42. | |
Russia a rogue state. Yes, its behaviour can seem thuggish and | :22:42. | :22:48. | |
macho at times, but it's more of a spoiler than a threat. This is no | :22:48. | :22:52. | |
North Korea. If it is a danger, then it's to some of its own | :22:52. | :23:00. | |
citizens not to the outside world. The question is - how long might | :23:00. | :23:05. | |
this last? Don't expect an Arab- style uprising. Few here want | :23:05. | :23:08. | |
another revolution. The real danger is that Russia could stumble on | :23:08. | :23:18. | |
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America is the one country where football, our kind of football that | :23:23. | :23:28. | |
is, has never made a final breakthrough. Now, though, the | :23:28. | :23:34. | |
English Premier League has done a huge rights deal with NBC and as a | :23:34. | :23:38. | |
result, football will air regularly on one of the big TV networks for | :23:39. | :23:45. | |
the first time here. Yet, for all its wealth and high profile abroad, | :23:45. | :23:48. | |
there always seems to be some crisis back home for English | :23:49. | :23:53. | |
football. David Bond, our sports editor, asks whether something has | :23:53. | :24:00. | |
gone seriously wrong with it. The pre-match pint, for as long as | :24:00. | :24:04. | |
people have been watching football, they've been gathering in pubs like | :24:04. | :24:09. | |
this to get ready for the match. The difference here - it's just | :24:09. | :24:17. | |
gone 6am in the morning. I've come to the Crown Inn to meet up with | :24:17. | :24:21. | |
250 City fans travelling south for their FA Cup semi-final against | :24:21. | :24:26. | |
Chelsea. This is a way of life. No matter how much money flows into | :24:26. | :24:33. | |
football, you sense reassuringly that some things may never change. | :24:33. | :24:38. | |
Hello? Manchester City... No club typifies English football's | :24:38. | :24:44. | |
revolution better than this one. Top flight football and money have | :24:44. | :24:51. | |
always gone hand in hand, but back in the 1970s, it was more of a | :24:51. | :24:54. | |
cottage industry. TV companies paid less to nothing for live rights. | :24:54. | :25:00. | |
Clubs were more closely tied to their communities. | :25:00. | :25:03. | |
These days they are global brands to be bought and sold by the super | :25:03. | :25:13. | |
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Last year, City became English champions for the first time since | :25:16. | :25:21. | |
1968 with a team paid for by a member of the Abu Dhabi Royal | :25:21. | :25:25. | |
Family, who rescued the club from the brink of bankruptcy five years | :25:25. | :25:33. | |
ago. With all that oil-fuelled success you'd think City's fans | :25:33. | :25:35. | |
would be unquestionably happy. Football has changed so much from | :25:36. | :25:41. | |
when you started going. Do you find now that it's lost touch with the | :25:41. | :25:47. | |
common fan? Yeah, it has, without a doubt. It's down to expense more | :25:47. | :25:51. | |
than anything. You are governed by expense. Basically, if you want to | :25:51. | :25:55. | |
go and do every single game, unless you're worth a lot of money, it | :25:55. | :26:02. | |
can't be done. They know they have a captive audience. You are a fan, | :26:02. | :26:05. | |
you follow your team. Whatever you can afford you will try to do it. | :26:06. | :26:12. | |
At the moment you're right on the edge. Sometimes, I mean, I probably | :26:12. | :26:16. | |
don't go to half the amount of away games and that's because of cost. | :26:16. | :26:23. | |
This place knows a thing or two about costs. Wem blip's �800 | :26:23. | :26:26. | |
million redevelopment transformed a relic into a state-of-the-art | :26:26. | :26:31. | |
cathedral for the game, a fitting symbol of English football's | :26:31. | :26:35. | |
modernisation. But someone has to pay for these improvements. Meet | :26:35. | :26:40. | |
the prawn sandwich brigade. This is the biggest corporate hospitality | :26:40. | :26:44. | |
operation in world sport, squeezing the rich helps keep prices lower | :26:44. | :26:53. | |
for the less well off. But all this has changed the sport's dynamics. | :26:53. | :26:57. | |
personally am not overly in favour of the prawn sandwich brigade. | :26:57. | :27:01. | |
Unfortunately, the finances in football dictate that the club | :27:01. | :27:06. | |
tries to make as much money as it can. That's unfortunately where | :27:06. | :27:10. | |
it's ended. It's fantastic facilities. You're having a | :27:10. | :27:14. | |
fantastic meal, champagne, it's a good day out. It's only half a | :27:14. | :27:18. | |
bottle of champagne. But you're having a great day out. Why not? | :27:18. | :27:23. | |
Why couldn't it change? Yeah, sure, as long as the true supporters of | :27:23. | :27:27. | |
the club, of the two clubs have been able to get tigts and be able | :27:27. | :27:33. | |
to come with their families, then that's absolutely fine. Although | :27:33. | :27:37. | |
some of this new money is filtered down to grass-roots, many at the | :27:37. | :27:45. | |
bottom of the game say the top is out of touch.. Take the recent | :27:45. | :27:49. | |
racism controversies. This Surrey junior team became so disillusioned | :27:49. | :27:53. | |
by football's response that they took action into their own hands. | :27:53. | :28:00. | |
It's a simple message - one black sock, one white to symbolise racial | :28:00. | :28:08. | |
harmony on and off the pitch. And yet the coach said their initiative | :28:08. | :28:13. | |
got no backing from those in charge. Clearly this is a point you're | :28:13. | :28:18. | |
making about values, is there a sense that football at the very top | :28:18. | :28:24. | |
level is has -- has lost its sense of values and morality? The value | :28:24. | :28:28. | |
is to do with money now. I think money has just taken over football | :28:28. | :28:32. | |
rather than being passionate and the majority of players now all | :28:32. | :28:36. | |
they want is the money. That passion has come out of it. When | :28:36. | :28:40. | |
you come down to see grass-roots football, you can see everyone is | :28:40. | :28:44. | |
fighting for one another. There is passion. I think that is the part | :28:44. | :28:51. | |
of the game is we've lost. Unpalatable as it might be, the | :28:51. | :28:54. | |
answer to some of England's problems could lie with old rivals | :28:54. | :28:59. | |
Germany. For these fans supporting Borussia Dortmund is about more | :28:59. | :29:03. | |
than just buying a ticket or wearing a shirt. They have a big | :29:03. | :29:11. | |
say in how this place is owned and run. Dortmund are one of Germany's | :29:12. | :29:14. | |
biggest clubs. That doesn't stop them offering cheaper tickets and | :29:14. | :29:19. | |
free travel. What's more, rules prevent any one businessman from | :29:19. | :29:22. | |
controlling clubs. While more than half of English teams have gone | :29:22. | :29:26. | |
bust in the last 20 years, there's not been a single insolvency in | :29:26. | :29:33. | |
Germany. According to the club's chief executive, the model creates | :29:33. | :29:42. | |
greater stability for everyone. fans, in normal case, is member of | :29:42. | :29:45. | |
Borussia Dortmund. He comes to the meeting every year. He can elect | :29:45. | :29:53. | |
people. He has a feeling - I'm a part of it. I think in England, | :29:53. | :29:59. | |
more and more, the fans of the clubs have not the feeling that | :29:59. | :30:06. | |
they are part of the whole. They have a client feeling I think. | :30:06. | :30:09. | |
There's no question the great football boom of the last two | :30:09. | :30:14. | |
decades has improved the English game. But all that money has | :30:14. | :30:19. | |
created different problems. With TV revenue set to increase again next | :30:19. | :30:23. | |
year, this feels like a defining moment. Carry on and leave the | :30:23. | :30:33. | |
market to decide or find another, fairer way. | :30:33. | :30:38. | |
All round us are the classic monuments to America's self- | :30:38. | :30:44. | |
confidence, yet every since 9/11 and reinforced recently by the | :30:44. | :30:52. | |
Boston bombings, the old sense of impreingnablt seems to have faded. | :30:52. | :30:59. |