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June Morrison makes this 8-hour June Morrison makes this 8-hour

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round trip to Durham once a month visit her son. She would like to see

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him more but can't. It does hurt that people can see that I've

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brought up a monster. Her son is a maximum security prison, serving

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at least 30 years. He is no inmate, he is a convicted

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This is Leeds, where in 2002 Colin This is Leeds, where in 2002 Colin

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Norris, a man with no history of violence or any apparent motive, was

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said to go on a six-month killing spree, murdering a series of

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patients in his care. He was branded a serial killer, a monster,

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Angel of Death. But tonight BBC Scotland reveals the new evidence

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which casts serious doubt on his convictions and paves the

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Colin Norris to be set free. .

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This summer nurse Rebecca Leighton This summer nurse Rebecca Leighton

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was thrust into the spotlight after a series of suspicious

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insulin-related deaths. The media scrutiny was intense. And, despite

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protesting her innocence, Rebecca Leighton was charged. Six weeks

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later, all charges were dramatically dropped. She is not the first nurse

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to claim they have been wrongly accused of poisoning patients

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This is Colin Norris, lashing out at This is Colin Norris, lashing out at

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the press during his five-month murder trial in 2008. The case

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captivated the nation. Here was nurse charged with poisoning

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vulnerable patients with lethal doses of insulin. He was portrayed

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by the prosecution as a callous, cold-blooded killer. But by his

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side every day of the trial was his mother, June Morrison, convinced of

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his innocence. When you are brought in for the verdict,

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then? The juror stood up, very softly spoken, and says - she

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do you find the not guilty, and they said guilty. I

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just thought: did I hear? Did I hear that right? And she repeated it.

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I said: yes, I did hear it right. And I just wanted the ground to open

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up and take me away. I felt - I ill.

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I was scared, very, very scared, and I was scared, very, very scared, and

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then I said I'm going to phone my Mum but of course by the time I had

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phoned my Mum it was news. She says "I know, I know".

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This man was stopped in his tracks This man was stopped in his tracks

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This man was stopped in his tracks after he had killed four and

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after he had killed four and after he had killed four and

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This man was stopped attempted to kill another person.

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Harold Shipman went on to hundreds of people. He wasn't

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stopped in his tracks. I'm convinced Colin Norris would have gone on

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kill considerably more people. Police said he appeared to kill

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because he was irritated by them. He appeared to have no other

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than being irritated by the frail women. June Morrison has been

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fighting to clear her son's name. I meet her after she has met him in

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prison. REPORTER: How was it? was quite good. He was good. She

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tells me this is the first case where a convicted

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himself turns out to be the victim of a grave miscarriage of

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But would this mother do anything for her son? I definitely wouldn't

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lie for him and Colin knows that. If I did have any doubts I wouldn't

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have contacted yourselves, no. I would have still went down to see

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him, I mean I'm still his mother, but if I had the least wee bit of

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doubt I wouldn't be doing what doing. Born in 1976, Colin was

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brought up in a close-knit working class family in Glasgow. As a child,

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he was close to his mother and grandmother and pursued a keen

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interest in theatre. He actually performed in the King's Theatre with

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Princess Margaret. She was the star attraction then.

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It was one of the proudest days of It was one of the proudest days of

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my life, to see my son graduating with a degree in nursing.

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But just 18 months after graduating, But just 18 months after graduating,

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But just 18 months after graduating, he was a murder suspect. Thinking

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he was a murder suspect. Thinking he was a murder suspect. Thinking

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But just 18 months back now, we were a bit naive

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because we thought the British justice system, it's the best in the

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world. Surely this will, you know, sort itself out, that this can't be

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happening. You know, it was like a nightmare, it was like a bad dream.

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I've investigated miscarriage of I've investigated miscarriage of

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justice cases before, but never when the prisoner protesting his

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innocence is a convicted serial killer. How could it be that not

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just one but five cases against him are wrong? The case against Colin

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Norris can be divided into two clear sections and the first centres on a

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single blood test taken from a gravely ill patient. The story

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begins at Leeds General Infirmary on the night of 20th November 2002.

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recovering from a hip operation. But at 5.00am she was discovered by

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nurse Colin Norris in a coma with extremely low blood sugar.

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Throughout that morning medics battled to get Ethel Hall's

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hypoglycaemia under control and to bring her out of the coma that she

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was in. There was no obvious explanation tour her plummeting

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blood sugar levels so very quickly doctors began to fear that

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have been poisoned with insulin. Insulin is injected by diabetics

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because their own bodies are unable to regulate their blood sugar

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levels. But if too much is given, the blood sugar drops too low, the

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patient becomes hypoglycemic and can fall into a coma, potentially

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leading to brain damage and death. Ethel Hall was not diabetic, so a

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blood sample was sent to the lab for investigation. The results showed

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massive levels of insulin in her blood, so the police were called in.

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Ethel Hall would never regain consciousness and died 21 days after

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slipping into a coma. This was now murder inquiry.

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The inquiry would be led by the The inquiry would be led by the

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The inquiry would be led by the senior detective who had conducted a

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senior detective who had conducted a senior detective who had conducted a

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The inquiry would be led review into the case of Harold

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Shipman, the GP who murdered more than 200 of his own patients. When

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police heard that Colin Norris had apparently predicted Ethel Hall's

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death, he was arrested and for questioning.

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This is duty solicitor hails Jim This is duty solicitor hails Jim

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Littlehales sitting next to Colin. He was with him throughout the

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interviews. He told me all along that he had done nothing, he was not

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guilty of an offence. was that of a man saying I am not

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guilty. Did it ever come across that he had anything to hide? Never

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came across that he had hide to me. A large dose of insulin

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which resulted in her death. I just know that I didn't do anything.

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I thought this was a joke. I I thought this was a joke. I

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I thought this was a joke. I thought: is it serious Colin, is

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thought: is it serious Colin, is thought: is it serious Colin, is

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I thought this was there somebody playing a joke on

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you? He says: no Mum, I was at the police station for 29 hours. I just

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couldn't believe it. He was crying like a child that was sobbing, and

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couldn't speak. You know, he was the breath - he was crying that hard

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that he couldn't speak. He just could not believe that they had

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Colin had never been in any form of Colin had never been in any form of

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trouble with the police whatsoever. He had I don't think ever been

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inside a police station really, apart from perhaps to the front

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counter on an odd occasion, as all have, but that was the limit of

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his experience. And never police cell? Never.

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arrested? Never arrested, never a police cell. He has been found

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with a quantity, that much insulin in her. How do you feel that he

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co-operated during interview the police? Colin and I took

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view right at the outset of the interviews that he had absolutely

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nothing to hide, that he should not exercise any right to remain silent,

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and that he should co-operate absolutely fully throughout, and

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did so. That insulin that was delivered on the 18th has been

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injected into Ethel Hall, and that subsequently caused her death.

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enough I see what you are but at the same time, if she

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injected with it, then surely it would have - if you say, like,

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somebody came and injected me that I would say to somebody: wait a

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minute, what are you doing? It appeared she had been poisoned with

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such a large dose of insulin that it could not have been accidental, but

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there was no direct evidence pointing to Colin Norris, and those

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who knew him could was in the frame at all.

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Emily Cox worked with Colin in the Emily Cox worked with Colin in the

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months leading up to his arrest. Colin was portrayed in the

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newspapers as a hater of elderly people. That was not the Colin that

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I knew. Colin was quite fair to everybody, I thought. He was just

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friendly and polite, humorous and respectful, I think. During the

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trial, Colin Norris was represented by barrister Paul Williams.

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If you have in the back of your mind If you have in the back of your mind

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If you have in the back of your mind the very terrible nature of the

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the very terrible nature of the the very terrible nature of the

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If you have in accusation that he was facing, the

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fact that people are willing to come forward and say: no, hang

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minute, I know this guy and he not like that, I think that

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an awful lot for him really. If anybody needed anything, he was

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always there first, giving a hand. Making sure his patients were

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after. The patients absolutely loved him. There was one patient in

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particular I remember really liked Colin, and she just wanted to grab

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his ears and give him a big kiss. He was really an outgoing, friendly,

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warm, nice person. I bonded with him really from when I first met him.

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Immediately of an Ethel Hall's death, Colin Norris was suspended

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from work. He was forced to sell the house he had recently bought and the

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pressure of being a murder took its toll. He was so angry and

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frustrated because - my personal view about the police down there was

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they had Colin as their suspect and they were doing

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everything in their power to make him their prime - you know, the

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questioning and everything, they decided that it was Colin

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was it. They were going to go out all guns firing.

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with the police was interpreted as arrogance, a necessary trait perhaps

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for a murderer. Is there no one, your boss or anyone that can tell

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why I was arrested the first time? You were told at the time why you

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were arrested. I was told because I was in charge of a team of patients.

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So you can arrest somebody for that, for doing their job? He could be

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quite blunt about putting his of view across but I wouldn't call

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that arrogance because his point was always valid, it was always a valid

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question that he wanted to ask of you. He maybe just didn't sugar coat

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it. We are not going to get into a debate about that. I just want a

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straight answer. We are not going down that road. Because

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want to talk about that. I want to. Can you get me your boss then?

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Colin Norris was said to have predicted the time of Ethel's death.

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I think Colin Norris in particular I think Colin Norris in particular

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I think Colin Norris in particular came into the frame because of some

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came into the frame because of some came into the frame because of some

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I think Colin Norris of the words that he had said

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that night. A phrase something along the lines of: Ethel doesn't look

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very well to me, I wouldn't be surprised if she goes off tonight.

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It's just something that is said. You know that your patient is not

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right and people have made comments, well, if that was the case, every

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one of us would be in the jail. This so-called prediction was not direct

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evidence against Colin Norris and neither was Ethel Hall's blood test

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since, according to the police's own investigations, there were at

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16 other nursing staff working close by that night. But it provided the

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motivation for the police to target their inquiries around Colin Norris

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and on the wards in which he worked, and this would give them their

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They started working back through They started working back through

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patient notes, reviewing all the cases over the previous two years

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which involved hypoglycaemia, even though they had all been classed

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the time as natural deaths. What the prosecution did was they approached

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a team of medical people who, together, as a panel, reviewed

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excess of 70 patients to see if they were suspicious deaths. The panel

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identified four new cases in two different hospitals. Doris Ludlam,

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Bridget Bourke and Irene Crookes all died after falling into hypoglycemic

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comas. Vera Wilby had a similar episode but recovered and died

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months later from unconnected causes. The experts said the deaths

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were non-accidental and that they linked him by way of his duties in

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both the LGI and St James' Hospital as being the one common denominator.

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Colin Norris was the only nurse on shift on these wards around the time

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of all five incidents. Like Ethel Hall, the other four cases had

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severe episodes of unexplained blood sugar, but because they were

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old and frail, none of their conditions had aroused

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How am I supposed to have done it How am I supposed to have done it

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without anybody else noticing when we've already established that

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there's, like, 24 or 28 patients a ward plus other members of staff,

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plus people walking on and off? It's all circumstantial, it all

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him in the right place at the time but that only matters if you

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have got five patients. If you've only got one, then it doesn't

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matter at all. So the strength of the evidence was that, to have a

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cluster of five cases of severe hypoglycaemia was so rare, it

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mean murder. I'm putting it to you that you've murdered those women by

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injecting them with insulin and that you attempted to murder Vera Wilby

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by injecting her with insulin. I know, you've already said. I'm not

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going to admit to anything that I've not done and I never murdered

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anybody, didn't inject anybody anything and I don't think

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facts are good enough. I'm sorry. But they were good enough to

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him with four murders and then attempted murder, and send him to

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I was physically and violently sick. I was physically and violently sick.

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On and off for hours until Raymond came down, and I was still

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through the night as well. I just could not believe, but very, very

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frightened at the same time, very scared.

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So there were two main planks of So there were two main planks of

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evidence: first, the Ethel blood test; second, this rare

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cluster of deaths. What about the first plank? Just how reliable are

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these types of blood test? Marks believes Ethel Hall's test

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does indicate foul play. I am satisfied that, as certain as I can

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be, that somebody at some time, and I cannot tell you at what time, I

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cannot tell you how much or even what type of insulin, somebody gave

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her insulin and that that explains the clinical picture, it explains

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But these blood tests, or But these blood tests, or

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But these blood tests, or immunoassays, as they are called,

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immunoassays, as they are called, immunoassays, as they are called,

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But these blood tests, can sometimes get it badly wrong. In

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America, after a series of false immunoassay results, Jennifer Rufer

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learned this to her cost. Jennifer Rufer went through a year of

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chemotherapy, a hysterectomy and doctors removed part of a lung. Then

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she learned she never had cancer. The test was wrong. One in every 250

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results can be erroneous, can be wrong, can be misleading,

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falls positive or false negative in laboratory parlance. Dr Ismail

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leading authority on this research, conducting extensive research

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more than 20 years. When you consider we are doing more than

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million tests in this country - Immunoassay tests?

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More than 10 million tests, you can work out how many erroneous results

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are caused each year, which may cause mismanagement, can sometimes

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cause surgery and treatment for phantom disease. I think I work that

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out as 40,000. Yes. So you are saying there are around

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potentially wrong results? That is what I am saying.

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Every year? Every year. So could the blood test have

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Ethel Hall's case? Her symptoms fitted medics' suspicions

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had been poisoned with insulin and the blood test appeared to confirm

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that but no further blood samples were taken to make sure the

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test was true. One additional sample taken a few hours earlier or later

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than the one, the single one which is used, would have been immensely

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helpful and it wasn't done. Which very unfortunate. None of these

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cases were investigated as if they were forensic cases. That applies

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particularly to Mrs Hall there was the suspicion from the

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very beginning, and all I could is that it's a great shame that

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was not investigated more thoroughly. But also Dr Ismail

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thinks there could be a reason for Ethel Hall's symptoms,

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which could explain the blood test result, a condition called

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autoimmune hypoglycaemia. I was just a bit concerned that a natural

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pathology called insulin autoimmune hypoglycaemia, very rare, but you

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must remember that nurses and doctors injecting insulin

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patients is also rare, so we are talking about two rare conditions,

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to exclude insulin autoimmune hypoglycaemia syndrome was also

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important. But this condition, although rare, cannot be

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definitively excluded because not all of the available laboratory

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tests were done. Dr Ismail put this evidence at trial

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and it raises serious questions over the first plank of the prosecution

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evidence, the Ethel Hall blood test, but even if you accept that the

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blood test is right, to Colin Norris you also have to accept

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the second plank of evidence, that there was a unique

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cluster of deaths at the hospitals and that Colin Norris was the one

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common denominator. We looked into that and we found another case,

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patient BD, who had, after we had looked at her medical records,

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had very similar signs and symptoms that the prosecution were relying

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on, to say that some other had been killed, and when we looked

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into that it was impossible Colin Norris to have done that

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because he wasn't at the hospital the time, and so, if the prosecution

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scenario was correct, that these signs of symptoms prove a killing,

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then there's somebody else there killing and it's not Colin Norris.

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And amongst the boxes of material And amongst the boxes of material

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not used in evidence we found another case, that of Lucy Rowell. I

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had the call on the Saturday morning, and, like I said, saw

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Grandma on the Friday night, colour in her cheeks, best we had

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since the operation, and really thought that she was on the road

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recovery. But just like the others, she developed hypoglycaemia and fell

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into a coma from which she did not recover. According to her family,

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soon after Lucy's death detectives knocked on their

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knocked on their door to they were investigating the case as

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a potential murder. They was looking at a male nurse that had

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been working every evening when, you know, Grandma slipped into a coma -

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Along with the other patients. Along with the other patients that

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had died and they left us for about ten, 11 months, thinking that

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Grandma had been murdered and then came back and told thaws the

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investigation are - told us that the investigation had gone further down

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the line and that Grandma's case wasn't one and this particular male

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nurse that they had been pursuing wasn't working the night that

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Grandma slipped into the coma. And they brought his time sheet. His

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rota sheet to prove to us that he wasn't working. So she went from

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being suspicious to non-suspicious. Just because he wasn't working?

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Yes. Yes. The medical review said Lucy Rowell could also have

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died from factors not related insulin poisoning, but during the

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trial the prosecution was accused of using double standards in their

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selection of cases. Solicitor Moore has reviewed the trial papers

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and has taken Colin's case on. What it seems to me is, having satisfied

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themselves that Ethel Hall was murdered, and having put Colin

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Norris in their minds as the prime suspect for her murder, it seems

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that they trawled through records looking for evidence of

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patients who might have died suspiciously, but it seems that

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only cherry picked those cases Colin Norris was on duty and

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any others that might have occurred in the hospital.

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We can now reveal the evidence that We can now reveal the evidence that

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the jury did not get to hear. were told that this cluster of

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was so rare, so unusual, that it must mean murder, but new

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has just emerged which could fatally expose that claim as

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means that this guilty verdict was reached by a jury in the dark. The

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world's leading expert on insulin poisoning, Professor Vincent Marks,

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has produced new scientific evidence about the cluster of four cases. My

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first impression was that they had hypoglycaemia, and then I thought

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"What's the evidence for insulin?", and the more I went into it,

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less convinced I was that there was any evidence for insulin. No insulin

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tests were done on these women and Professor Marks says their severe

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hypoglycaemia is explained by their underlying conditions. These

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patients all had other risk factors which included emaciation,

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starvation, because she hadn't been fed, infection, cardiac failure,

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renal failure. They were all at very high risk of developing

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hypoglycaemia. But key to this was the long-held belief that a

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cluster of hypoglycemic comas in non-diabetics was extraordinary so

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Professor Marks undertook search of all the new international

:25:49.:25:53.

medical studies carried out since 2008 which he says proves

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belief is wrong. I was surprised at how very common it is in this

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particular group of elderly, sick people. In one very detailed survey

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of thousands of patients, it was up to 10%. In others, it was 5%, and so

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on, and I thought, well, you know, it's not that rare after all. So if

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what you are saying is that up to 10% of the elderly, sick - Very

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elderly, sick, with risk factors, yes. - can have this condition,

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then a cluster of four or even five patients within the period of a year

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is not that unusual? It wouldn't unusual if you were looking through

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a hospital that had several thousand people over the age of 70 who were

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sick, and so on, over the course of a year, not at all. So

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opinion then the convictions Colin Norris in these four cases are

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not safe? I think that using those four cases as evidence of

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administration, I think is unsafe. And so it can no longer be said for

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sure that these four cases were down to insulin poisoning, nor that they

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were so especially rare as to make this so-called cluster significant.

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Without these cases we are left principally with the Ethel

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blood test, and there may even be considerable doubt over

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according to the evidence that heard. Colin Norris will not be

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eligible for parole until the year 2038. He will be 62. So the question

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is: has a completely innocent man been wrongly imprisoned as

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It's my view, from having looked at It's my view, from having looked at

:27:50.:27:53.

the evidence in the case and from my knowledge of Colin that he is an

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innocent man and this conviction ought to be quashed. The entire

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case was built on a foundation which is unsound. The new evidence would

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blow effectively a very large in what was the central plank of the

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prosecution case. The new scientific evidence is incredibly

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indeed. I do believe the system will eventually prove that there has been

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a miscarriage of justice and he will be a free man. Whether it takes

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another two years, another five years, I don't know, but I do - I've

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got to believe that that will happen. I've got to believe in that.

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On the strength of the new evidence On the strength of the new evidence

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