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You're watching Beyond 100 Days. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:09 | |
For the slaughter of 8,000 men
and boys in Srebrenico, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
Ratko Mladic is convicted
of crimes against humanity. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:17 | |
The man known as the Butcher
of Bosnia is found guilty | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
of genocide and extermination
and will spend the rest | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
of his life in prison. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:27 | |
The trial lasted five years,
today justice and relief | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
for the families of the victims,
who had long feared the commander | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
of the Bosnian Serb military. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
President Trump breaks his silence
on Roy Moore, | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
saying the Alabama Senate candidate
has denied allegations of sexual | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
misconduct and you have to listen
to him too. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:48 | |
Britain's bleak budget, economic
growth forecasts are way down, | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
the extra costs of Brexit up, | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
so why is the Chancellor
still giving some money away? | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
Also on the programme: | 0:00:55 | 0:00:56 | |
Mugabe is gone - the man who'll
replace him has returned. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
Emmerson Manangwa flies
in to Zimbabwe to a hero's welcome | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
from his Zanu-PF supporters. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
Straight out of a Cold War movie -
the terrifying moment a North korean | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
soldier runs for his life,
across the demilitarised zone. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:15 | |
Get in touch with us
using the hashtag #Beyond100Days. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:21 | |
Hello, I'm Katty Kay in Washington
and Christian Fraser is in London. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
In the words of the presiding judge,
Radko Mladic was responsible | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
for "the most heinous
of crimes known to mankind". | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
It was his orders that led
to the slaughter in Srebrenica | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
of 8000 men and boys,
who'd been separated from women, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
taken away in buses
or marched off to be shot. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
It was the worst atrocity
in Europe since World War II. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
Mladic, known as the Butcher
of Bosnia, tried to shout down | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
the judge as the verdict
was read today. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
In his absence he was declared
guilty of genocide, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
crimes against humanity,
extermination, deportation, | 0:01:57 | 0:01:58 | |
forcible transfer,
and the taking of hostages. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:03 | |
The 74-year-old will spend the rest
of his life behind bars. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
Here's our special correspondent
Allan Little from the Hague. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
Mr Mladic, sit. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
It has been the most emotionally
charged of all the trials | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
this court has heard. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
Mr Mladic, if you... | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
Mladic demanded a halt
to the hearing because of his | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
high blood pressure. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:24 | |
When the judge refused, Mladic
was led out yelling obscenities. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
Curtains down, Mr Mladic will be
removed from the courtroom. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
SHOUTING | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
In his absence,
the judge carried on. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
The crimes committed rank among
the most heinous known to humankind, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
and include genocide
and extermination as | 0:02:40 | 0:02:41 | |
a crime against humanity. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:51 | |
Mladic committed genocide
at Srebrenica in 1995. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
There, his men rounded up or hunted
down 8000 men and boys, | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
some as young as 12,
and murdered them. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
EXPLOSION | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
The sniping and bombardment
of the capital Sarajevo | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
was designed to terrorise
the civilian population. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:13 | |
A member of the SRK shot
a Bosnian Muslim woman walking | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
on the street with her children. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
He's talking about the woman
in the white coat. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:27 | |
Her name is Djenana Sokolovic. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:28 | |
The bullet passed through her
abdomen and hit her seven-year-old | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
son in the head, killing him. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:35 | |
Last year I went to see her. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
She told me why she'd gone
to The Hague to give evidence. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
TRANSLATION: It meant a lot to me. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
I went for the sake of my child. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
I know that nothing will bring him
back, but I would go again | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
tomorrow if they asked me. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:49 | |
I can't tell you how important
it was for me to testify. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
Across Bosnia, Mladic's forces drove
hundreds of thousands | 0:03:52 | 0:04:02 | |
of non-Serbs from their homes. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
Thousands of men were held
in detention camps, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
where hundreds died. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
For this, Mladic was convicted
of murder, extermination | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
and forced deportation. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:21 | |
This is Fikret Alic in 1992. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
Today, he welcomed the verdict. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
TRANSLATION: This should send
a signal across the world, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
that in future war criminals
will be punished. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
There will be justice. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:31 | |
Ratko Mladic was not the architect
of ethnic cleansing, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
but he was its ruthless enforcer. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
He didn't just fight a war,
he carried out a huge and violent | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
criminal enterprise. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:39 | |
Allan Little, BBC News, The Hague. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
We can speak to Allan Little
live from the Hague. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:51 | |
Extraordinary pictures and pork.
Ethnic -- extraordinary pictures on | 0:04:51 | 0:04:59 | |
that report. You met him at the
beginning of the Warsaw as the | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
verdict was handed down, you must
have had your own thoughts about | 0:05:03 | 0:05:08 | |
this. Ethnic cleansing.
The courts confirmed what we could | 0:05:08 | 0:05:14 | |
secretly and a half years, it was
also state sponsored criminal | 0:05:14 | 0:05:21 | |
enterprise to dispossess to entire
ethnic groups. Ratko Mladic was at | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
the pinnacle of that project. I met
at the start of the war in 1982 and | 0:05:25 | 0:05:30 | |
he had just been made head of the
Bosnian Serb army, partly because of | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
his zealotry for the cause. He was
right behind the project to create | 0:05:34 | 0:05:39 | |
an ethnically pure Serbian state,
and I met him at a barracks and you | 0:05:39 | 0:05:44 | |
could see that the traditional
generals of the Yugoslav army had | 0:05:44 | 0:05:49 | |
been sidelined, sacked, dismissed or
demoted, because they were part of | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
the old multiethnic ideal of
post-World War II Yugoslavia. Ratko | 0:05:52 | 0:05:59 | |
Mladic had been locked out and put
in charge of them because of his | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
ideological belief in the necessity
of of an ethnically pure Serbian | 0:06:03 | 0:06:08 | |
state. It was his job to carve up
and ethnically pure state and use | 0:06:08 | 0:06:14 | |
terror, mass moor, extermination and
genocide to achieve it. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
Interesting watching the reactions
in the former Yugoslavia today and | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
Bosnian Serbs who said, this is a
fake trial... And that the verdict | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
will make you more of a key role
are. Does that reflect a belief that | 0:06:27 | 0:06:33 | |
this is being cooked up and they
don't believe the evidence presented | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
in the Hague over the last five
years? Reflect ongoing tensions | 0:06:35 | 0:06:40 | |
between the generic use their?
-- reflecting ongoing tensions | 0:06:40 | 0:06:48 | |
between communities?
It reflects two parallel truths, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
Bosnia was successfully ethnically
divided by the war that Ratko Mladic | 0:06:51 | 0:06:56 | |
board, and Serbs and non-Serbs lived
largely separate lives in one | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
constitutional state. Crossing onto
the Serb side, they will tell you a | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
story about an international
vendetta against the Serbs, and how | 0:07:03 | 0:07:08 | |
it was loaded from the beginning. At
the same time you watch the people | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
who lost loved ones to the ethnic
cleansing project, sitting in the | 0:07:11 | 0:07:18 | |
public gallery, sitting beside
members of Ratko Mladic's family, | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
and you think about the number of
years they have waited to see | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
justice served. These two groups of
people inhabit completely different | 0:07:24 | 0:07:33 | |
interpretations, completely
different interpretations of the | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
same story, and if one of the
purposes of this tribunal was to | 0:07:35 | 0:07:40 | |
reconcile those two groups, those
two sides, then it hasn't done it, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
because Bosnia remains ethnically
divided, politically paralysed, and | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
sunk in poverty. It has not
recovered economically or | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
politically from the war that Ratko
Mladic thought. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:57 | |
Thank you, good to talk to you.
Thank you for being with us. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:02 | |
22 years is not a long time ago that
this was happening on European soil. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
A lot of people would say, 22 years
is a long time to bring someone to | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
justice. Questions as well today
because at the outset of all this, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:15 | |
people did not really know whether
they could effectively try a war | 0:08:15 | 0:08:20 | |
criminal in the former Yugoslavia...
But where you have got justice | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
there, you have got practically
impunity in Syria and you can also | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
say in Zimbabwe. Watching this week,
Robert Mugabe probably walking off | 0:08:27 | 0:08:32 | |
into the sunset that any justice of
retribution for the crimes he | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
committed. We will talk about Bashar
al-Assad later in the programme. He | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
seems to be, having allegedly gassed
his own people, now part of the | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
peace process.
I don't think anyone is suggesting | 0:08:43 | 0:08:50 | |
that either Robert Mugabe or Bashar
al-Assad will make it to the he can | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
end up like Ratko Mladic did, 22
years... In some sense, to date, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:58 | |
clearly from the families of people
who went through Srebrenica and were | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
killed in the war, that there is at
last some kind of justice delivered. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
Turning to American politics... | 0:09:06 | 0:09:07 | |
President Trump is now supporting
a Republican politician who's been | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
accused by eight women
of sexually harassing them. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
One of them says she was
only 14 at the time. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
Their accounts are detailed
and suggest a pattern of abuse. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
But Mr Trump says the politician,
Roy Moore of Alabama, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
denies the allegations and so that
seems to be enough for him. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
Mr Trump appears to have decided
getting a Republican | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
into the Senate is worth it -
at almost any price - | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
even though many other Republicans
have said they believe the women | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
who accuse him. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:31 | |
Before we play his comments,
it is perhaps worth a reminder that | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
Mr Trump himself has been accused
of sexual harassment | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
by at least 12 women. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
Mr President, is an accused child
molester better than a Democrat? | 0:09:39 | 0:09:44 | |
He totally denies it. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:45 | |
He says it didn't happen
and, you know, you have to | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
listen to him also. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
Women are very special. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
I think it's a very special time
because a lot of things are coming | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
out and I think that's good
for our society, and I think it's | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
very, very good for women. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:08 | |
Donald Trump there. The president is
correct that the Alabama Senate | 0:10:08 | 0:10:13 | |
candidate Roy Moore has denied these
allegations, perhaps not as firmly | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
as the president is suggesting. But
there is a pattern here that makes | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
these women's stories look
particularly credible in this wave | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
of harassment allegations and
stories we are getting. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
Certainly, and we have seen the
Democratic candidate raised a lot of | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
these comments in his own paid
advertising. As a matter of fact, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
the new advertisement he has put all
of the women's pictures at the time | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
they were harassed next to each
other, and the fact that there are | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
eight or nine very young not women,
girls, on the screen there are, is a | 0:10:42 | 0:10:49 | |
pretty shocking display. Something
we have not seen in American | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
politics before.
An incredibly powerful ad that Doug | 0:10:52 | 0:10:57 | |
Jones the Democrat put out in the
last few minutes. Endorsing him, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:02 | |
effectively, he goes against their
Republicans in his own party and | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
goes against his own daughter,
Ivanka Trump, who said there is a | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
special place in hell for people who
hurt children. Why has he done it? | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
This is once again evidence that
President Trump is not a typical | 0:11:12 | 0:11:17 | |
politician and not a typical
Republican. The Republican party | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
does not want to be branded with the
stain that Roy Moore would bring in | 0:11:20 | 0:11:26 | |
he wins this election and cons that
the US Senate enjoyed the Republican | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
conference, but the fact is that
Donald Trump sees this as a way to | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
drive a wedge in the culture wars as
he enjoys to do. He enjoys pitting | 0:11:32 | 0:11:39 | |
factions against each other and now
has a way to say, well, here is the | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
liberal media, the lame mainstream
media are however he attacked us, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:51 | |
coming after somebody. I'll find it
funny that he complained that | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
something like this comes up
mysteriously in the weeks up to an | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
election. Of course it does. That is
only pay attention. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
For people outside the United States
watching, wary of focusing on a | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
Senate race in Alabama? But this
goes beyond the Alabama race because | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
there are now lines on American
networks saying, Donald Trump | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
support child molester. This role is
thought to the midterms in 2018. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:20 | |
As I say, President Trump is not a
typical politician and not a typical | 0:12:20 | 0:12:25 | |
Republican. A lot of Republicans are
worried that he is going to be what | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
people think about when they headed
to the polling place. As we saw in | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
elections earlier this year, in
special elections around the country | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
and in Virginia in November, people
are voting against President Trump | 0:12:35 | 0:12:40 | |
explicitly. This is what happens in
a President's first time, but just | 0:12:40 | 0:12:45 | |
happens this president is more
deeply unpopular. Add to that | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
something like Roy Moore and that
may fly in the most Conservative | 0:12:47 | 0:12:53 | |
conclaves of deep red Alabama but it
will not fly in suburban places that | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
Republicans must win around the rest
of the country. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
Livestock about Conservative
conclaves of deep red Alabama and | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
talk about the advertisement, the
pictures of young girls. Put up by | 0:13:05 | 0:13:11 | |
Roy Moore's Democratic Senate
opponent, the first time he has | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
spoken out publicly about this, the
most high-profile thing he has said. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
Does an advertisement like this make
any difference to Conservative | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
people in Alabama who say they are
supporting Roy Moore? | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
It has do.
You think this could change votes? | 0:13:23 | 0:13:28 | |
I think it could and acting the
reason the Jones campaign is talking | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
about this is the attention has
drifted a bit from the scandal and | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
it was front page of the paper in
the last two weeks, and every | 0:13:34 | 0:13:39 | |
Alabama newspaper, now relegated to
the second tier story, as this | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
remarkable run of sexual harassment
stories across industries, now | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
hitting Congress, continues to roll
out. Doug Jones needs the dog is to | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
be on Roy Moore, and he needs Roy
Moore to be deeply unpopular. -- he | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
needs the dog is to be on Roy Moore.
The advertisement strikes tones on | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
morality in that is a deep and
fundamental cornerstone of Alabama | 0:14:00 | 0:14:05 | |
conservatism. -- Doug Jones once the
focus to be on Roy Moore. If they | 0:14:05 | 0:14:10 | |
are rocking the polling places
saying the Republican candidate is | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
an immoral person, that is the
Democrats only chance to win. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
Also a pastor on a radio show in
Alabama saying that actually Roy | 0:14:17 | 0:14:24 | |
Moore had found he could not get
girlfriends and so he had gone after | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
younger ladies because of their
purity. In the context of the kind | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
of allegations being made about him,
that he molested a 14-year-old girl, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:37 | |
the details of that came out from
the woman earlier this week... | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
Pretty chilling thing to say, that
he went after younger ladies because | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
of their purity.
The president obviously on his way | 0:14:43 | 0:14:48 | |
yesterday to Mar-a-Lago when he made
those comments. People on Twitter | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
today would have spotted my
incredulity at some of the tweets | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
today, because there is much talk
about. There is Zimbabwe and Mugabe | 0:14:54 | 0:15:00 | |
and Ratko Mladic and a terrible
accident in the US air force today, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
a plane lost in the ocean of Japan.
He is talking about this. Let's look | 0:15:03 | 0:15:09 | |
at the Tweed. Stirring up a row that
began a week ago. -- let's look at | 0:15:09 | 0:15:14 | |
Twitter. If other of a basketball
player... It was not the White | 0:15:14 | 0:15:19 | |
House... | 0:15:19 | 0:15:19 | |
I mean...
LAUGHTER | 0:15:33 | 0:15:38 | |
I have a theory that he does the
Mar-a-Lago and general Caliente. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
Are there so there is no one to rein
him in. There is no other way to | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
explain these sorts of speeches on
Twitter at IBM. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:50 | |
The day before Thanksgiving and a
lot of people suggesting that is not | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
the most presidential of sentiments
uttered on a day when Americans | 0:15:53 | 0:15:58 | |
traditionally prepared to give
thanks. Let's move on. Some | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
extraordinary footage has been
released... | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
Some extraordinary footage has been
released, showing the recent | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
defection of a North Korean soldier
who was seen trying to flee | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
to the south across the heavily
fortified Demilitarised zone. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
North Korean soldiers did open fire,
hitting him five times, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
but he did survive. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:14 | |
The UN Command in the region says
the incident was a clear | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
breach of the Armistice. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:18 | |
Paul Adams takes up
the story from Seoul. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
One man's bid for freedom captured
in a series of dramatic, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
soundless snapshots. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
From the North Korean side,
a soldier races towards the heart | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
of the Demilitarised Zone. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:33 | |
It's a short drive. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
As he passes, someone
tries to stop him. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
But the real risks are up
ahead at Panmunjom, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
where North meet South,
a place of rules, rituals | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
and, for would-be defectors,
incredible danger. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:50 | |
By now, North Korean soldiers
realise what's happening. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
This is only the third time one
of their own has tried to defect | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
to this part of the DMZ in more
than 60 years. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
They are determined to stop it. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
The defector abandons his vehicle
and runs for the line. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
You can't see it but it's just
on the other side of the big tree. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
The guards fire repeatedly,
some from point-blank range. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:17 | |
For UN investigators,
this is the key moment - | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
shots have been fired
across the line and now, briefly, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
one of the guards crosses, too. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:30 | |
He seems to realise his mistake. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:35 | |
Unsure what to do next,
North Korean soldiers gather | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
on their side and watch,
perhaps realising | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
they've lost the man. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:47 | |
But the defector is gravely wounded,
hit five times, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
in danger of bleeding to death. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
The view switches. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:52 | |
These are thermal images. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
Look through the trees. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:57 | |
South Korean soldiers
are crawling towards him. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:04 | |
They are careful but when they reach
him they can't afford to be gentle. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
The whole episode has
taken just 45 minutes. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:09 | |
No-one has died. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:11 | |
In a place full of guns at a time
full of angry rhetoric, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
this could have been so much worse. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
Paul Adams, BBC News, Seoul. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:24 | |
Isn't that the most extraordinary
footage? They have patched this man | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
up and he was not... He was in
critical condition but is all right | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
now. The doctor who treated him has
found that he had hepatitis B | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
because he had been treated in a
hospital... Hepatitis B you get from | 0:18:35 | 0:18:40 | |
unclean needles or unprotected sex.
He also has these worms in him, long | 0:18:40 | 0:18:47 | |
worms. They have put them on
pictures and apparently this is | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
because they spread... They are
using as fertiliser in North Korea | 0:18:50 | 0:18:56 | |
human excrement, and admitted on
field and because food is grown by | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
this, the poorest people tend to
have worms. He is in very bad state | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
but at least alive. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:05 | |
The UK finance minister set out
a series of measures today to put | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
Britain on a secure footing
for Brexit and beyond. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
In his annual budget
there were a few eye | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
catching giveaways -
the Chancellor is loosening his belt | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
a little after years of austerity. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
But it's not because he has more
money to throw around. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
In fact quite the reverse. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
The UK growth we are told will be
much lower over the next five years, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
lower than was projected in March
this year. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
Among the giveaways,
Philip Hammond announced that first | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
time home-buyers in England
and Wales will pay no up | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
front tax on homes up
to 300,000 pounds from today. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:36 | |
Also in there is £3 billion
that has been set aside | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
to "insulate" the economy
from any Brexit shocks. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
Mr Deputy Speaker, I report today
on an economy that continues | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
to grow, continues to create more
jobs than ever before, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
and continues to confound those
who seek to talk it down. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
Hear, hear. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
An economy set on a path
to a new relationship | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
with our European neighbours
and a new future outside | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
the European Union, a future that
will be full of change, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:07 | |
full of new challenges
and, above all, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
full of new opportunities. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
And in this budget we express our
resolve to look forward, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
not backwards, to embrace that
change, to meet those challenges | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
head on, and to seize those
opportunities for Britain. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:29 | |
Chancellor of the X to Philip
Hammond. -- Chancellor of the | 0:20:32 | 0:20:39 | |
Exchequer. No stick with the Brexit
member birds of the Cabinet have not | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
been impressed by the Chancellor. No
fireworks and no slip-ups, has he | 0:20:42 | 0:20:48 | |
done enough to keep his job?
He came into this under a lot of | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
pressure and part of that is because
some of the Brexit leading MPs felt | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
he was being too gloomy about the
whole thing. They wanted him to | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
lighten up and be positive, and to
date Philip Hammond bid talk about | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
seizing the opportunities of Brexit
but also under pressure because of | 0:21:04 | 0:21:09 | |
the fact that Theresa May and the
Conservative Government lost their | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
majority in the House of Commons at
the election earlier this year, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
which means that anything
controversial comes under pressure | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
from Conservative MPs as well as the
opposition. And over all of it of | 0:21:19 | 0:21:25 | |
course, Brexit, you talked about the
amount of money he is putting aside | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
for a rainy day in case things don't
go according to plan. Today he | 0:21:28 | 0:21:33 | |
seemed to spend a lot of that money.
He is trying to help the younger | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
generation, as you say, with those
tax cuts with buying a house. A bit | 0:21:36 | 0:21:41 | |
more money to the health service, a
bit more money for welfare, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
something upsetting many have his
own MPs. But it is the broader | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
picture which is most alarming for
people listening to this. We talked | 0:21:49 | 0:21:55 | |
about growth figures... Some
statistics... The worst, weakest for | 0:21:55 | 0:22:00 | |
Casper UK economic growth since
1983, and you may remember previous | 0:22:00 | 0:22:05 | |
governments and other governments
are about balancing books to make | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
sure we don't spend more than we
bring in. That was bad to happen | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
some years ago. It now might not
have been getting into surplus until | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
2030. This is a long-term problem
for the UK. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:19 | |
We live in a world that is terribly
polarised, and have been saying that | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
in the past year. Does a budget like
this have any impact politically on | 0:22:23 | 0:22:29 | |
people's opinions of the economy
heading into the Brexit period? | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
It is difficult to say and I think
most people felt Philip Hammond | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
today had to steady the ship and not
do anything that was going to be a | 0:22:37 | 0:22:43 | |
problem for him personally, and for
the party, and the last few budgets | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
under various chancellors have been
what you could only describe as | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
clock ups, which have gone wrong
taking on headlines for the wrong | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
reason and many thinking this is
time to get to an offer it to a few | 0:22:54 | 0:22:59 | |
people but there are still some... I
have been speaking to former Cabinet | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
ministers on the Brexit side of the
argument... They say, everyone is | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
being too gloomy and these forecasts
from an independent source but they | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
still say they are being too gloomy
and once we see the opportunities, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
growth will be better than that, and
the economists have got it all | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
wrong. That is what they say.
Thank you very much. People on both | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
sides of the Atlantic spend a lot of
time debating economic figures and | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
statistics, and there seem to be as
many others around as you care to | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
choose from. Isn't this the picture
of pure joy? | 0:23:30 | 0:23:36 | |
The good old days. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:37 | |
Thanksgiving, a time to share
a delicious family meal. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
So what's changed? | 0:23:39 | 0:23:40 | |
Hosting the annual festive dinner
seems to be the source | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
of anxiety for some Americans. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
One suggestion is because they're
out of the habit of hosting. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
This graph sums it up. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
Notice the decline in the number
of people holding dinner parties | 0:23:51 | 0:24:00 | |
in their homes over the years. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:05 | |
Like a gravy ladle, downhill. Are
you going tomorrow? You should tell | 0:24:05 | 0:24:10 | |
us you will not be with us, happy
Thanksgiving to you and the team in | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
America.
You should take the day off as well, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
Christian.
I/O holding the fort because I must | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
muddle through. Where are you going?
I am going to a French family, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:25 | |
friends of mine who have lived here
for many years and are hosting | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
Thanksgiving. I am cooking a desert
and you'll be glad to hear that I | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
will leave the supermarket, do my
shopping, go home, cook pudding... I | 0:24:32 | 0:24:38 | |
am not cooking apple pie, pumpkin
pie or pecan pie but meringues. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:43 | |
So the guilt and anger you are
feeling for eating all day tomorrow | 0:24:43 | 0:24:48 | |
has...
None at all, fine. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
A little bird told me it has spurred
you to go tomorrow on Turkey Trot. I | 0:24:50 | 0:24:56 | |
thought this was...
A Trot is the appropriate word. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:02 | |
What is this? Five kilometres? A
five kilometre thing? | 0:25:02 | 0:25:07 | |
Not a gash, a Trot, Christian. A
tradition in America, every town | 0:25:07 | 0:25:14 | |
holds one. You run five kilometres
or in my case, trotting five | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
kilometres around the bottom of the
capital, and my kids are home from | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
college so all six of us will go
down to the capital and run or walk | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
for five conductors.
You read the small print in the | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
rules that you must go and fancy
dress. I have been looking... K, our | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
producer, has got to this outfit...
How does this look for tomorrow? -- | 0:25:32 | 0:25:38 | |
Kate, our producer.
Kate will be there and that will be | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
you.
Send us pictures. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:46 | |
This is Beyond 100 Days on the BBC. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
Coming up for viewers on the BBC
News Channel and BBC World News: | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
Calls for the authorites
to investigate the massive Uber hack | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
which the company has just got
around to revealing. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
And a hero's welcome
for Emmerson Mnangagwa, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
the man likely to replace Mugabe,
as he returns to Zimbabwe. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
That's still to come. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:05 | |
Hello there. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
By the end of the night it's
going to be a different sort | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
of hazard across the far north
of the UK, but for this | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
evening the rain is still
continuing in many areas. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
After that we have got a very gusty
set of winds driving their wake | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
eastwards across England. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:20 | |
The rain has lead to flooding. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
It has been particularly wet around
Cumbria, host to 100mm | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
of rain falling to date. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
Over the hills that rain has just
been stuck in the same sort of place | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
earlier on in the day. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:32 | |
Things will move on a little bit
overnight, but across Cumbria it | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
will stay wet for most of the night. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
There's the squally winds,
the gusty winds that are driving | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
eastwards across England. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
Things then tend to
combine a little bit. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
Most of that wet weather goes away
from England and Wales, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
but further north we are starting
to introduce that colder are. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:53 | |
Here the winds are lighter,
so as the rain turns heavier, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
we are going to see it turning
to snow as well. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
That is the hazard
we need to focus on. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
Particularly across the northern
half of Scotland for | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
the Thursday morning, that is. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:04 | |
Into the rush hour,
into the morning... | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
You will get some snow at lower
levels, two or five centimetres. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
Most of the snow over
the hills and Highland | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
and Grampian 10cm, possibly
even more than that. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
The heaviest of the snow,
the more persistent snow will tend | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
to push away north-eastwards,
but the showers come packing | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
in behind that and the wind starts
to pick up across northern Ireland, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
pushing some showers back
into the north-west of England. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
But not the persistent rain
we had today, mind you. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
Many other parts of England
and Wales starting off break. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
We will see the winds
tending to change direction | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
to more of a westerly. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:31 | |
It will be a windy day but probably
not as windy as it has been today. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
Some more showery pictures
developing across the | 0:27:35 | 0:27:36 | |
northern half of the UK. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
Again we will find
some sleet and snow. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:39 | |
Most of it in the afternoon
of higher ground in Scotland | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
and Northern Ireland. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:43 | |
South across the UK,
still not bad temperatures, | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
13 or 14 Celsius. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:51 | |
The last of any warmth,
if you want to call it that. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
Further north temperatures
are six or seven Celsius. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
We have got that westerly wind,
and that colder wind | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
will push its way down
across the whole of the UK | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
by the end of the week,
just in time for the weekend. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
It means Friday will be
a chilly day, maybe a touch | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
of frost from the Midlands,
Wales, northwards. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
Wintry showers again for Scotland
and Northern Ireland, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
and a few showers further south. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
The weather may well
have a little bit more cloud. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
You will notice even
across southern part of the UK | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
temperatures will be lower,
at eight or nine Celsius. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
Some wintry showers
into the weekend. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
This is Beyond 100 Days, with me,
Katty Kay, in Washington, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
and Christian Fraser in London. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:12 | |
Our top stories - Ratko Mladic,
the former Bosnian | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
Serb army commander, is found
guilty of genocide. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
The UN tribunal said his crimes
ranked among the most | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
heinous known to mankind. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:20 | |
He called the judges liars. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:27 | |
An ecstatic welcome
for Emmerson Mnangagwa | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
on his return to Zimbabwe. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
He'll be sworn in as
President on Friday. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
Coming up in the next half hour - | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
the United States accuses
Myanmar of ethnic cleansing | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
against the Rohingya. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:42 | |
We talk to David Miliband
about the growing refugee crisis. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:51 | |
The flow of people out of Myanmar is
continuing, so the ethnic cleansing | 0:30:51 | 0:30:56 | |
is continuing. And the tragedy is,
for five weeks ago, the Secretary | 0:30:56 | 0:31:01 | |
General of the UN called it ethnic
cleansing, but it still hasn't | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
stopped. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:04 | |
History and art have
collided on a giant canvas | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
here in Washington. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:07 | |
The civil war is the backdrop
for issues still being | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
hotly debated today. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:11 | |
Let us know your thoughts
by using the hashtag #Beyond100Days. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:16 | |
This was the first day in 37 years
that Zimababwe faced a future | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
without Robert Mugabe. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
After his resignation yesterday,
former vice president | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
Emmmerson Mnangagwa has returned
to the country and will serve | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
as interim President
until elections next year. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
He is expected to be
sworn in on Friday. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
Mugabe fired Mnangagwa
two weeks ago. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
Until that point, he had served
as Mugabe's right-hand man. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
He is more of a reformer but to many
Zimbabweans perhaps more feared | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
than the leader he replaces. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
He is nicknamed The Crocodile. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
From Harare, our Africa editor
Fergal Keane reports. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:56 | |
The Crocodile is coming. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
All day they waited
for Emmerson Mnangagwa, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
he of the legendary ruthlessness,
reinvented now as | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
an apostle of liberty. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
They were the happy and the hopeful. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
This MP was cast out
by Robert Mugabe. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
Now his faction is triumphant. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
The country is pleased. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:17 | |
It's all about the people. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:18 | |
If the people are happy, I'm happy. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
We did this for the people. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:21 | |
The people did this. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:22 | |
But there were reminders
of Mr Emmerson Mnangagwa's | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
more sinister legacy. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
This is the air marshal
Perence Shiri, who led the notorious | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
Fifth Brigade during massacres
in Matabeleland soon | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
after independence. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
How do you feel today,
General Shiri? | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
I don't know. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:36 | |
Have you anything to say? | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
Are you happy? | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
He's a close ally
of the new president. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
What is very clear to me
is that this is a welcoming party | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
not made up of old Zimbabweans
but very much hard-core | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
ruling party supporters. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
They celebrate together,
but the ruling party | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
is no longer a monolith. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
There are factions within factions,
and loyalty to the new leader | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
will be dependent on him
delivering change. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:05 | |
Now, let me ask you, if this
president doesn't meet your needs, | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
will you challenge him? | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
Everyone now is very awake. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
If he doesn't do what we want,
we're going to take him down again. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
We are not scared. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
You're telling me this at the party
headquarters of Zanu-PF, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
so that is a real sign of change
for this country. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
Yes! | 0:33:24 | 0:33:25 | |
Everyone is now very, very awake. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
These are days of questions. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
Where are the deposed
Robert Mugabe and his wife Grace? | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
The military isn't saying. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:36 | |
Will the new leader
bring the opposition | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
into a unity Government? | 0:33:38 | 0:33:39 | |
One leading activist told me
the international community now had | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
to engage with Zimbabwe. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
Well, we expect the international
community to be our underwriters | 0:33:45 | 0:33:50 | |
and guarantors, to be making sure
that there is the holding | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
of credible, legitimate,
free and fair elections. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:58 | |
Within the last hour,
he arrived at his party | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
headquarters, and promised to be
the people's servant. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:07 | |
We want to grow our economy.
Yes! | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
We want peace in our country.
Yes! | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
We want jobs, jobs, jobs. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:17 | |
The task is huge and
the expectations are great. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
Fergal Keane, BBC News, Harare. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:31 | |
He spoke mostly in English, but then
at the end of the speech, he | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
switched languages. In the quote
that Ben Brown gave us was, the dogs | 0:34:36 | 0:34:44 | |
can keep on barking while the train
keeps on rolling. He was saying that | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
is the sort of energy used to hear
when Robert Mugabe was around, so | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
one to watch. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
The United States said today
that Myanmar is guilty | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
of ethnic cleansing. | 0:34:53 | 0:35:00 | |
60,000 Rohingya Muslims
have been forced to flee | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
the country since August. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:03 | |
The state department says some
"horrendous atrocities" | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
have been carried out. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:06 | |
And as we have been showing
you in recent week it's created one | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
of the world's worst refugee crises
- with people pouring | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
into Bangladesh - already one
of the world's poorest countries. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
The Rohingya are adding
to a staggering total. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
There are currently
more displaced people | 0:35:16 | 0:35:17 | |
in the world than ever before. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
More than half of them come
from just three countries - | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
Afghanistan, Somalia and Syria. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:22 | |
The need for help is enormous
but so is the reluctance | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
to open doors to refugees. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:26 | |
Is this a problem
that can be solved? | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
I spoke to David Miliband, President
of the International Rescue | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
Committee, and author
of a new book, Rescue. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
David Miliband, I imagine you
welcome the US state department | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
saying that this is ethnic cleansing
in Myanmar. Doesn't make any | 0:35:37 | 0:35:42 | |
practical difference for the range
of Muslims? The real test is not | 0:35:42 | 0:35:48 | |
whether or not because something
ethnic cleansing, it is whether or | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
not there is any action to stop it.
And we now know that there are | 0:35:51 | 0:35:56 | |
800,000 Muslims who have been driven
out of Myanmar into neighbouring | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
Bangladesh. There are maybe 200,000
or 300,000 left, and all of our | 0:35:59 | 0:36:05 | |
information from the ground is that
the flow of people out of Myanmar is | 0:36:05 | 0:36:11 | |
continuing. So the ethnic cleansing
is continuing, and the tragedy is | 0:36:11 | 0:36:16 | |
that for five weeks ago, the
Secretary General of the UN called | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
it ethnic cleansing, and it still
hasn't stopped. And that is what we | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
need to see action to tackle. The
range of Muslims join millions of | 0:36:22 | 0:36:27 | |
other refugees in the world, as is
the premise of your book, and you | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
say that as helping refugees, we
rescue ourselves. But a lot of | 0:36:30 | 0:36:38 | |
people do not buy that argument, do
you? You are right that there is a | 0:36:38 | 0:36:43 | |
lot of fear, but for every person I
find who is fearful of refugees in | 0:36:43 | 0:36:48 | |
the US, somebody else wants to stand
up and say, this is an important | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
part of our heritage and history,
that we defend the most vulnerable | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
in the world. I have just been in
London and Brussels, and there is | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
fear in some quarters, but there is
also a recognition that refugees on | 0:36:58 | 0:37:03 | |
the have rights around the world
because of Western leadership after | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
the Second World War, to the extent
that we trashed the rights of | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
refugees, we trust our own history.
The message of my book is that the | 0:37:10 | 0:37:15 | |
refugee crisis is actually
manageable, not insoluble, if we | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
take the right policy decisions, not
just an idealistic way about solving | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
conflicts but also addressing the
human tearing crisis of what the | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
Rohingya are a part. Because what I
have learnt in the format years I | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
have been doing this job is that
this becomes stability. Looking at | 0:37:30 | 0:37:37 | |
the politics of Germany, Britain and
France, and as you mention of the | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
United States, you are just ignoring
the political reality, and you, that | 0:37:40 | 0:37:45 | |
people have had enough of opening
their doors to refugees? I am making | 0:37:45 | 0:37:50 | |
the point that our choice is either
to have managed, regulated dignified | 0:37:50 | 0:37:55 | |
treatment of people on the move, or
unregulated flows of people where | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
the winners are the people
smugglers, and it is that choice | 0:37:59 | 0:38:04 | |
between a coherent and planned
approach to refugees and migrants | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
and an unplanned, illegal
undocumented flow that Europe is | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
grappling with today. Because the
truth about the situation in Europe, | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
to take that as an example, is that
Europe ignored the problem in 2013 | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
and 2014, and then it exploded on
its shores and 2015. It is still | 0:38:18 | 0:38:23 | |
playing catch up at developing the
end of entry X systems that track | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
people to deliver planned
resettlement for those who need it | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
and make sure that borders are
properly managed in the interests of | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
people in host communities.
Countries like Afghanistan, Syria, | 0:38:33 | 0:38:39 | |
Iraq with the biggest refugee
problems, you see pictures of | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
President Assad being embraced by
President Putin, doesn't it make you | 0:38:43 | 0:38:48 | |
wonder why some of the people
causing these problems, if they have | 0:38:48 | 0:38:53 | |
a powerful backer, act pretty much
with impunity? You are making a key | 0:38:53 | 0:38:58 | |
point. The descent into hell of
places like Sarah, where | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
international humanitarian law is
absolutely meaningless. Eats IRC | 0:39:02 | 0:39:07 | |
hospitals were bombed in Syria last
year. -- Eight. The ultimate source | 0:39:07 | 0:39:16 | |
of this is found in the failure of
politics, but while it takes | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
politics to stop the killing, we
need more effective humanitarian | 0:39:20 | 0:39:26 | |
action to stop the dying. We know
that in places like Yemen and | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
Bangladesh, rates of child
malnutrition have skyrocketed | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
because the humanitarian concerns
are not being properly addressed. I | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
don't think we should get into a
false toys between, on the one hand | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
trying to address the political
circumstances that are causing these | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
wars, and on the other hand
addressing the gym and saving | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
crises. The truth is we have to do
both, and places like grandma and | 0:39:48 | 0:39:55 | |
Yemen are key examples of that. --
Myanmar and Yemen. IQ for joining | 0:39:55 | 0:40:01 | |
us, David Miliband. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:06 | |
This must be a frustrating time for
people like David Miliband, trying | 0:40:06 | 0:40:14 | |
to help refugees in the appetite for
doing so is diminishing around the | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
world. Look at what is happening in
Yemen, it has a tacit powerful | 0:40:18 | 0:40:23 | |
backer in the United States that is
refuelling Saudi aircraft as they go | 0:40:23 | 0:40:29 | |
and bomb people in Yemen, and the
civilian toll is rising enormously, | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
so that I about people having
backing and then getting away with | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
it is not just happening with
Russians. But as you indicated in | 0:40:36 | 0:40:41 | |
that last question, maybe the
problem is closer to home, when he | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
is sitting in New York. As long as
the T5 support some of these | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
countries, Russia yesterday voted
down the UN plan to carry on the | 0:40:48 | 0:40:55 | |
investigation into war crimes in
Syria, they voted down twice. You | 0:40:55 | 0:41:00 | |
always get the scum of the message
like the one today with Mladic being | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
sentenced, but people with... We
have pictures off President Putin | 0:41:04 | 0:41:13 | |
meeting with the Iranian president,
and also the Turkish president was | 0:41:13 | 0:41:20 | |
in Russia today as well. And the
three of them are sort of talking | 0:41:20 | 0:41:26 | |
about the piece, and one of the
things they have come as a People's | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
Congress in Syria. It goes back to
the point that Assad is still part | 0:41:29 | 0:41:35 | |
of the solution. -- the peace. The
message out of that meeting, those | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
three readers is that everybody has
to compromise. Let's see how that | 0:41:39 | 0:41:44 | |
goes down with the Syrian
opposition. -- leaders. We have been | 0:41:44 | 0:41:49 | |
meeting in Saudi Arabia at the same
time, we are suggesting there are | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
not ready to compromise while Assad
is still there. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:56 | |
When the President gets back
from his Thanksgiving break, | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
one of the biggest things
in his in-tray will be tax reform - | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
and getting it through Congress. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:03 | |
It is still touch and go. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
Nonetheless, the markets seems
to think it will get done, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
judging by this week's trading. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:08 | |
Something the President
was keen to flag up again | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
on Twitter this morning. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:12 | |
"Stock Market hit new
Record High yesterday." | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
"Many companies coming
back to the US." | 0:42:14 | 0:42:19 | |
Meanwhile, stock markets
here in London have been reacting | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
to the Budget announcement. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:23 | |
This shows the FTSE 100
over today's trading, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
where it finished seven points
higher after fluctuating | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
following the speech
shortly after midday. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:32 | |
Joining us now is our keen
Beyond 100 Days markets | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
watcher Scott Shellady,
aka The Cow Man. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
Scott, good to see you back. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:44 | |
You came over here when Brexit
started to unfold, investment | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
opportunities. How do you think it
is going? It is easier to complain | 0:42:48 | 0:42:53 | |
about Brexit right now than it is to
back it because many things still | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
needs to get done comedy can argue
that the Government has been | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
handling them directly. But at the
end of the day, it is hard enough | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
being British with the problems in
this country, but at the same time, | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
you then wants to be saddled with
the problems of Spain? There's a lot | 0:43:05 | 0:43:14 | |
going on, and it is nice to say that
at some point in time, it does not | 0:43:14 | 0:43:19 | |
have to bother us as much. You focus
on the problems in Europe, saying it | 0:43:19 | 0:43:25 | |
is not all rosy on the other side.
That is because we do have a special | 0:43:25 | 0:43:30 | |
relationship between Britain and the
US. You can see what our stock | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
markets have done, and I think the
viewers should also know that just | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
because Trump talks about how high
the stock market is, that is a bait | 0:43:36 | 0:43:41 | |
and switch that has been going on
now with both of our governments | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
about trying to let us know as an
electorate that a high stock market | 0:43:44 | 0:43:48 | |
equals a great economy, that is
absolutely not the case. So we have | 0:43:48 | 0:43:53 | |
got unemployment around 40%. Donald
Trump continually points to this, | 0:43:53 | 0:44:01 | |
the upward trend since he came to
power. It is upwards. But if you | 0:44:01 | 0:44:07 | |
compare that to the FTSE 100, you
have got the dip in February last | 0:44:07 | 0:44:17 | |
year when David Cameron came back
out a deal, and then another dip | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
when Brexit happened. But the
pattern generally is the same. Lower | 0:44:20 | 0:44:26 | |
left to right, because we do not
have any more volatility in the | 0:44:26 | 0:44:28 | |
market. The central banks have
flooded the market with cash. That | 0:44:28 | 0:44:35 | |
has given the investors and people
at home on the idea that there is no | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
more volatility. Bad things are
happening, the risk of nuclear war, | 0:44:38 | 0:44:42 | |
Brexit, other things happening in
Europe, Angela Merkel, Saudi Arabia, | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
we have just mentioned a bunch of
things. So all those things are | 0:44:45 | 0:44:50 | |
proving not to be very volatile, and
because they are not volatile, | 0:44:50 | 0:44:53 | |
people get comfortable on the take
more risks. And nothing happens and | 0:44:53 | 0:44:57 | |
they take even more risks. At some
point, that will unwind, but I am | 0:44:57 | 0:45:01 | |
not talking about that. Scott, you
are here to carry on pumping money | 0:45:01 | 0:45:11 | |
into the markets, which is what
every single best I speak to is | 0:45:11 | 0:45:14 | |
doing. And as you say, this is to be
an incredible disconnect between | 0:45:14 | 0:45:20 | |
markets worldwide, soaring, and
political instability around the | 0:45:20 | 0:45:22 | |
world, but something else, low
growth around the world as well. At | 0:45:22 | 0:45:27 | |
what point do markets say, hold on,
we are not doing macro factors any | 0:45:27 | 0:45:31 | |
more? They have not said they are
worried about nuclear war, the have | 0:45:31 | 0:45:38 | |
not had a bigger pick-up and we
have, I cannot believe it. And now | 0:45:38 | 0:45:41 | |
we have a situation like today, the
Budget of this downgrading the | 0:45:41 | 0:45:47 | |
growth prospects was huge. And I
still cannot believe it is not | 0:45:47 | 0:45:51 | |
getting more press. -- Budget
office. We are not allowed to dock | 0:45:51 | 0:45:55 | |
about these unanswerable questions,
the 5.5 trillion. Plumbing the | 0:45:55 | 0:46:00 | |
depths of unemployment, everybody
has got a job apparently. But | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
everybody has got a job, what are we
making? That has got to be a | 0:46:03 | 0:46:08 | |
problem, we cannot talk about these,
we have to talk about how high the | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
stock market is. Pinning your horse
to the stock market, there are bad | 0:46:11 | 0:46:15 | |
days we do not need to remind people
about. Ronald Reagan didn't talk | 0:46:15 | 0:46:19 | |
about the stock market, but Donald
Trump is, so we'll see how that | 0:46:19 | 0:46:23 | |
works out for him. The bad days were
not all that long ago. Thanks for | 0:46:23 | 0:46:30 | |
joining us. Some of us are young
enough to remember 2008. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:40 | |
This is Beyond 100 Days. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:41 | |
Still to come - Uber
is coming under fire | 0:46:41 | 0:46:43 | |
after a massive security breach. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:45 | |
But it's more about the cover
up than the crime. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:47 | |
More money has been promised
for the health service | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
in the Chancellor's Budget,
nearly three billion pounds over | 0:46:53 | 0:46:55 | |
three years for the NHS in England. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:57 | |
But some say the money isn't
enough and longer waits | 0:46:57 | 0:46:59 | |
for patients seem unavoidable. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:00 | |
Our health editor Hugh Pym reports. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
The neonatal intensive care unit
at Birmingham Women's Hospital. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
Here, they have a clear view
of what future generations | 0:47:06 | 0:47:08 | |
will need from the NHS. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
The chief executive says
the Chancellor's new funding falls | 0:47:11 | 0:47:13 | |
short of what is required. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:20 | |
She told me the money
for this winter has come too late. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:23 | |
It's very difficult to think
what we can do now. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
The only thing we could really try
is to get additional | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
locum staff or to pay
existing staff overtime, | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
but it's the same pool
that we are asking to do | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
extra work all the time. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:34 | |
NHS England had called
for a major fudging increase. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:36 | |
The Budget deal falls short of that. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:38 | |
Health commentators said it was
a step in the right direction. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:40 | |
It's less than we need,
but it's more than we expected. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
There are huge challenges
are lie on the front line, | 0:47:43 | 0:47:45 | |
not just for acute hospitals
but also for mental health, | 0:47:45 | 0:47:48 | |
community and ambulance services. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:52 | |
NHS employers say the Government's
pay cap policy has made it | 0:47:52 | 0:47:55 | |
increasingly difficult to recruit
and retain staff. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
Significantly, today,
the Chancellor said he would find | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
the extra money to cover any wage
increase recommended | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
by the independent pay review body. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:08 | |
These nurses told me
they had something to look | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
forward to after many years
of pay restraint. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:14 | |
It's massive, financially. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:15 | |
We struggle every month. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:20 | |
Every month, you're
in your overdraft. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
It's very positive, but I just worry
that it still leaves some | 0:48:22 | 0:48:25 | |
uncertainty about what it means
for the future, how much | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
the pay rise will be. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:29 | |
The trust running this hospital has
got new Budget funding | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
to expand its A&E unit,
but a senior NHS England official | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
has said the Chancellor hasn't
plugged all the funding gaps. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:39 | |
Longer waiting times for care
are now unavoidable, | 0:48:39 | 0:48:41 | |
which is worrying. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:42 | |
Hugh Pym, BBC News, Birmingham. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:47 | |
Is the era of privacy over? | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
Can you no longer realistically
expect to protect your | 0:48:57 | 0:48:59 | |
personal information? | 0:48:59 | 0:49:01 | |
That's the question facing
57 million users and drivers of Uber | 0:49:01 | 0:49:03 | |
today after it was revealed
the company concealed | 0:49:03 | 0:49:06 | |
a massive hack last year. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:09 | |
The hackers found millions
of names, email addresses | 0:49:09 | 0:49:11 | |
and mobile phone numbers
and exposed the licence details | 0:49:11 | 0:49:15 | |
of 600,000 drivers. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
Uber paid the hackers
$100,000 to delete the data. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:21 | |
The company's chief security
officer, Joe Sullivan, | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
left the company in
the wake of the news. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:27 | |
Today, Uber - a company
already under scrutiny - | 0:49:27 | 0:49:29 | |
is in damage control trying
to explain what | 0:49:29 | 0:49:31 | |
looks like a huge cover up. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:35 | |
But realistically, this
is going to keep happening, | 0:49:35 | 0:49:37 | |
and one day, it will be your
information that's stolen. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
What does that mean for all of us? | 0:49:39 | 0:49:41 | |
We can cross now to the BBC's
Technology correspondent | 0:49:41 | 0:49:44 | |
Dave Lee in San Francisco. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:48 | |
This was a massive breach that they
sat on for a year. What was their | 0:49:48 | 0:49:52 | |
legal obligation? Their legal
obligation, it is just becoming | 0:49:52 | 0:49:58 | |
clear, they are supposed to, as any
company with a data breach, is | 0:49:58 | 0:50:04 | |
supposed to notify relevant
regulators around the world when a | 0:50:04 | 0:50:06 | |
big data breach has occurred. In the
US, that would be the Federal Trade | 0:50:06 | 0:50:11 | |
Commission, which today said they
are looking into the serious issues | 0:50:11 | 0:50:13 | |
raised by this Hack. In the UK, that
is the information Commissioner 's | 0:50:13 | 0:50:18 | |
office, the ICO, they said they are
investigating, and in markets around | 0:50:18 | 0:50:22 | |
the world where Uber operates,
similar scrutiny, Australia | 0:50:22 | 0:50:28 | |
investigating, the Philippines have
said they agreed to investigate as | 0:50:28 | 0:50:30 | |
well. Back in the US, senators are
calling for a special investigation | 0:50:30 | 0:50:34 | |
by the Senate into knots just the
act itself, but more importantly as | 0:50:34 | 0:50:40 | |
you mentioned, the cover-up, the
fact that they kept the seven for | 0:50:40 | 0:50:43 | |
eight year is good to be the real
criticism of Uber. This is just | 0:50:43 | 0:50:49 | |
being added to this company's
enormous list of legal worries that | 0:50:49 | 0:50:52 | |
it has right now. It is yet another
thing for this form to answer to. | 0:50:52 | 0:51:01 | |
Dave, realistically as Uber, Target,
FedEx, the reality is that at some | 0:51:01 | 0:51:05 | |
point, all of a sudden to have our
data hacked because we give it away | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
so many times a day on the internet.
It's the owners just good to be on | 0:51:08 | 0:51:12 | |
us as consumers to protect our
passwords better, car companies to | 0:51:12 | 0:51:17 | |
be able to stop hackers with some
magic cyber security wall, or | 0:51:17 | 0:51:21 | |
something? You could have had a
password that was 100 characters | 0:51:21 | 0:51:27 | |
long, full of numbers, and it
wouldn't have protected you against | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
this Uber Hack if you are among the
57 million. I do not think the onus | 0:51:30 | 0:51:34 | |
is on consumers, it is an the
company. We are seeing a time where | 0:51:34 | 0:51:46 | |
people realise we are going to join
companies and our details will be | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
exposed. We need to think about what
details were given the first place, | 0:51:49 | 0:51:54 | |
does the company needs to know my
date of birth? It is those intricate | 0:51:54 | 0:51:59 | |
parts of data that companies seem to
gather with no abandoned whatsoever. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:06 | |
Regulators now saying, do they need
that data, and what do we have to | 0:52:06 | 0:52:10 | |
give them from a to do their
business correctly? Thanks very | 0:52:10 | 0:52:16 | |
much. Of course, with Uber, we give
away our home addresses as well, | 0:52:16 | 0:52:20 | |
which might worry some people. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:21 | |
There's a bitter debate
in the US at the moment | 0:52:21 | 0:52:23 | |
about whether Confederate statues
should be removed from | 0:52:23 | 0:52:25 | |
southern towns and cities. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:26 | |
Some of the protests have
turned violent as they did | 0:52:26 | 0:52:29 | |
in Charlottesville,
Virginia this summer. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:30 | |
But they've also prompted
complex conversations. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:31 | |
And one man seems to
thrive on the challenge. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
American artist Mark Bradford,
has been looking at the artistic | 0:52:34 | 0:52:36 | |
legacy of the civil war. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:37 | |
His new exhibition is at
the Hirshhorn Museum in Washington, | 0:52:37 | 0:52:40 | |
and Jane O'Brien has been to see it. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:50 | |
It spans an entire floor, a
monumental work inspired by one of | 0:52:50 | 0:52:54 | |
the most violent episodes in
America's Civil War history, the | 0:52:54 | 0:52:58 | |
Battle of Gettysburg. It is based on
the 19th-century panorama of the | 0:52:58 | 0:53:04 | |
last desperate assault by
Confederate troops, which ended in | 0:53:04 | 0:53:07 | |
victory for the Union. Mark
Radford's abstraction of the famous | 0:53:07 | 0:53:12 | |
scene urges us to re-examine what
history means today. I think Mark's | 0:53:12 | 0:53:18 | |
project asks questions about how we
filter history, the filters about | 0:53:18 | 0:53:23 | |
through which we view history, and
questions about who gets to write | 0:53:23 | 0:53:26 | |
history. Questions about how we
might contest history of Time and | 0:53:26 | 0:53:30 | |
how its changes, no one single
narrative that tells the history, | 0:53:30 | 0:53:34 | |
whether it be a battle or an entire
country. The 400 foot long piece is | 0:53:34 | 0:53:40 | |
a series of eight panels, consisting
of layers of paint weighing about | 0:53:40 | 0:53:46 | |
800 lb each. Radford, who at six
foot eight is an equally outsized | 0:53:46 | 0:53:55 | |
artist, likens his process to
archaeology. What I love the most is | 0:53:55 | 0:54:01 | |
the chase. I think really these are
just my own ideas. There was a row | 0:54:01 | 0:54:07 | |
underneath, and I pulled the roll
out, and it made that. It is like a | 0:54:07 | 0:54:12 | |
trace. The layers are scored,
ripped, and generally torn apart. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:19 | |
And I can pull this? Yeah, pump it
up. Just pull it, like that. You | 0:54:19 | 0:54:26 | |
know when your hair needs... ? That
is all, like that. Although | 0:54:26 | 0:54:33 | |
intentionally abstract and seemingly
random, the final work looks oddly | 0:54:33 | 0:54:37 | |
well planned and organised. I think
Mark is one of the most important | 0:54:37 | 0:54:42 | |
artists working today. He is very
practice, the idea of using | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
different materials to infuse
abstraction with political and | 0:54:45 | 0:54:53 | |
social abstraction is transforming
the way we think about what painting | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
is. The complexity of the piece
reminds us that history cannot be | 0:54:56 | 0:55:00 | |
neatly packaged. The goods is
underneath of an old and revered | 0:55:00 | 0:55:04 | |
Civil War painting suggests that
unresolved issues are never far from | 0:55:04 | 0:55:09 | |
the surface. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:12 | |
For a lot of people watching in
America at the moment, the whole | 0:55:17 | 0:55:22 | |
issue of Confederate soldiers must
seem slightly mystifying. A civil | 0:55:22 | 0:55:26 | |
war in which some people advocated
slavery, they lost, and still huge | 0:55:26 | 0:55:30 | |
monuments to some of their generals.
We are going to go down to Alabama | 0:55:30 | 0:55:34 | |
for the write more race in December,
and interestingly, in other areas of | 0:55:34 | 0:55:39 | |
the self, some of those Confederate
money was coming down. -- Uber. In | 0:55:39 | 0:55:44 | |
Alabama, they have just put up a new
one to unknown soldiers of the | 0:55:44 | 0:55:48 | |
Confederacy in Alabama. 500 people
turned up in August when the on | 0:55:48 | 0:55:52 | |
field that such, and they shot five
cannons over it, so still a huge | 0:55:52 | 0:55:56 | |
issue in Alabama and we will look at
that. S I will | 0:55:56 | 0:56:00 |