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Larry Nassar, the former team doctor

of USA Gynamastics, is sentenced

to up to 175 years in jail.

The judge said she had

"signed his death warrant"

for the serial abuse of young women

who were entrusted to his care.

One after another, the victims had

taken the stand to explain how

Nassar used his position to molest

girls who were seeking medical help.

We were ultimately strong enough

to take you down, not one by one,

but by an army of survivors.

I will carry your words with me for

the rest of my days.

President Trump heads to Davos

but wherever he goes, the dark cloud

of Robert Mueller seems

to follow him.

Also on the programme...

Reports of lewd behaviour at a men's

only charity event in London draws

fierce condemnation.

Those who attended the dinner

are feeling the fallout.

And we'll bring you the row

from Saudi Arabia that

involves camels and botox.

This is one you are going to want to

hear.

Get in touch with us

using the hashtag

#BeyondOneHundredDays.

Hello and welcome -

I'm Christian Fraser in London,

Jane O'Brien is in Washington.

He had fooled his employer,

he had fooled the parents,

some of whom were doctors

themselves, some of them

serving police officers.

He was so well practised

in his abuse that Larry Nassar

believed he was untouchable.

But this week the former doctor

of USA Gymnastics was unmasked

for the monster he is.

And today he was sentenced to up

to 175 years in prison

on top of the 60 years he was

already serving for possession

of child pornography.

The young women who've faced

Larry Nassar in the Michigan

court have delivered some powerful

and heartbreaking testimony,

over 150 impact statements.

Many of the victims,

we already know.

They are some of the most

decorated American gymnasts.

And one after the other,

they have taken the stand and faced

down their former doctor

and serial abuser.

Rajini Vaidyanathan

has been in court.

The tables have turned, Larry.

We are here, we have our voices

and we are not going anywhere.

The amount of physical,

mental and emotional trauma this man

has forced upon me is immeasurable.

Over the last seven days,

their voices and their stories have

become hard to ignore.

156 women say they were sexually

abused by this man, Larry Nassar.

During the hearing, judge

Rosemarie Aquilina invited

other women who had been

abused to come forward.

The response was unprecedented.

What started as ten convictions

turned into an outpouring

of testimony.

Today she did not hold back

when delivering her verdict.

I'm giving you 175 years,

which is 2100 months.

I've just signed your death warrant.

Today, he had this

response for his victims.

An acceptable apology

to all of you is impossible

to write and convey.

I will carry your words with me

for the rest of my days.

Described as a monster and Satan

in court, the former USA gymnastics

team doctor treated hundreds

of women over decades,

from decorated Olympians

and state-level gymnasts

to the children of family friends.

Sent to him for medical treatment,

instead of taking away their pain,

he stole their innocence.

Speaking on a podcast in 2013

before his abuse was uncovered,

he was recorded talking

about his views on the welfare

of the children under his care.

You screw up once with one

of those gymnasts, and it'll

spread like wildfire.

If you do something to break

their chain of trust,

of trust, you're done

because they will

never trust you again.

They will tell the other gymnasts.

I do not feel like I had a choice

even if I felt something was wrong.

She says she and other

young women were ignored

when they tried to complain

about Nassar to officials.

She says the sport's governing

body, USA Gymnastics,

has a lot to answer for.

I know Dr Nassar is a monster,

but those people around him who have

been protecting him,

those are real monsters

too and they need to

be held accountable.

The focus of this sentencing has

been on the survivors

of Larry Nassar's abuse and perhaps

the biggest victory for them is not

just seeing him behind bars,

but knowing that together,

they founded the collective

strength to confront him.

Nassar's abuse spanned

more than two decades,

involving more than 150

girls and women.

He was hired by the US national

gymnastics team in 1986.

The earliest record of abuse

is 1992, when he was accused

of assaulting a 12-year-old girl.

There were so many

missed opportunities.

In 2004, a victim told her

parents of the abuse.

It was never reported.

In 2014, Nassar was cleared

of wrongdoing by Michigan State

University after an investigation

into claims of sexual assault

by a woman he'd treated.

It was only in August 2016,

after more than 20 years

of molesting young gymnasts,

that the Indianapolis Star,

part of the USA Today network,

published a story about sexual abuse

inside the US team and the story

came to public attention.

Let's bring in Briana Scurry.

She was the goalkeeper

for the United States women's

national soccer team,

winning Olympic gold in 1996

and the World Cup in 1999.

We have been hearing some very

powerful testimony from these girls.

Would you say that this is an issue

that goes beyond gymnastics, and is

this a watershed moment for women in

sport generally?

I think it's

entirely possible. Here in the

United States, you have seen so many

different instances of power being

held over women who seemingly don't

have a lot of power. In the women's

gymnastic situation in particular,

it's not only the abuse that was

occurring, it was the cover-up after

the abuse that is so compelling to

me. That's why these things are

unfortunately perpetuated for so

long a lot of the time. I think all

sports governing bodies in the USOC

need to be careful and really do

their job when an athlete comes to

them and says there is something

wrong. At the very least, they

should believe them, which was not

happening with the USA team, and

then pursue and see what is going

on.

As somebody who has been

involved in top competitive sport

and has witnessed and been involved

in these sorts of relationships

close-up, how does this happen? Give

us a sense of how these

relationships can become so abusive.

Well, in the case with a doctor and

an athlete, it's like a coach and an

athlete. That Doctor and that coach

is the steward of that athlete's

dream. They are part of the gateway

through which an athlete can get

from their dreams into reality. So

in the case of USA gymnastics, that

is why it is so diabolical in my

opinion, because you are taking

athletes who are striving, a girl is

trying to be the best they can be

played for their country, and the

people who are supposed to safeguard

them, train them and get them to

that level are the ones who are

bringing them down. That is why it

is so difficult for them to say

anything in the first place, because

they feel like either they are going

to wreck their own chances of

getting to their dreams, which is

all they have wanted to do for so

long, or they may not be believed

and they are not sure. A lot of the

time, they have guilt about it. So

there are some anything things going

on and it is very difficult. I

applaud all those women who came

forward and finally got their day to

say what happened to them and see

justice done.

It seems to me that

part of the problem in athletics in

the United States, as was the case

with the football abuse scandal here

in the UK, is that the governing

body didn't feel it had the ability

to exert more influence over the

clubs. Would you say that is part of

the problem?

I definitely think that

is part of the problem. For the

governing body over the clubs,

everybody has to understand that

that is not a cave. If there is even

a whisper or inclination of abuse

that goes from the athlete to the

club and from the club to the

governing body, at least they have

to acknowledge that there is

something going on. Wherever the

road leads, whether it was true or

not true, it has to be pursued.

Otherwise, you have a situation like

you had with US domestics, where

these girls were trying to do the

right thing by telling someone and

no one is doing anything. One body

thinks it doesn't have power over

the other and vice versa. Somebody

needs to take responsibility. It is

important that all the governing

bodies do that.

Briana Scurry, good

to get your thoughts. As we

mentioned, the Nasa story was first

brought to light by the Indianapolis

Star. The journalist behind that

article is Marisa Kwiatkowski for is

that she joins us now. We should

congratulate you for pulling out the

threads and keeping on pulling,

because it is only when journalists

get involved and they believe some

of these allegations that we get to

the truth. Tell us how this

investigation started and how it

gathered pace?

The investigation

started when I was looking to report

sexual abuse in schools. And looking

at the reasons why officials would

learn of violations but not report

them. Somebody suggested that I look

into USA gymnastics. We started that

same week and within four months, we

have our first story that showed

that USA gymnastics executives had

failed to report all allegations of

child sexual abuse to authorities.

What sort of resistance did you face

when you began your investigation?

There was some resistance from USA

gymnastics in terms of what its

policy was. So we had to look into

the background of a lot of coaches

to find out whether there had been

allegations made against them and if

so, whether those allegations had

been reported to authorities. We

also did hear some resistance when

we first started reporting about

Larry Nassar. He was blooded member

of the sports community when we

started our investigation into his

conduct that Mac -- he was a beloved

member.

Did you have any indication

as to how big this story would

become?

We knew what the story was,

but we didn't realise the scope of

how much it had been put into

practice. And we certainly didn't

realise the number of survivors who

would come forward relating to Larry

Nassar.

Where does it go from here?

Are you still pursuing this?

My

colleagues and I are continuing to

look into this issue. Now that Larry

Nassar has been convicted and is

serving prison time, were looking at

the entirety of the system and

saying, where did this go wrong?

According to both our investigation

understatements of survivors of the

last week, there were people who

knew about this, but did nothing. So

we are looking deeper at the system

and the people who enabled this

abuse to occur.

And that would be

Michigan State university. I read

that 14 people were notified of

sexual abuse allegations and did

nothing about it.

There were at

least 14 people from what has been

reported thus far. There were people

according to records we have at USA

gymnastics and according to USA

gymnastics' own statements, they had

learned of allegations and conducted

a five-week investigation before

they report it to the FBI. So there

are multiple people in multiple

roles who knew something about Larry

Nassar.

Thank you for coming on the

programme. Have you seen the film

Spotlight?

Not recently.

There was a

line in that film about the abuse

within the Catholic Church that if

it takes a village to raise a child,

it takes a village to abuse one. And

again, I think we have seen in the

Indianapolis Star case that this is

not just a failure of the coaches

are all the governing body, is a

collective failure of everybody who

has been involved with Larry Nassar.

That is the parents, the fellow

athletes, the media who probably had

this right under their nose. I think

if there is going to be any proper

safeguards in sport and in our

schools and clubs to stop this sort

of thing, we have to encourage and

facilitate the reporting of abuse

such as we have seen here.

I think

so. And I think the judge captured

that moment when she mentioned some

shocking figures that one in ten

children will be sexually assaulted

by their 18th birthday, which shows

the importance of speaking up at

these kinds of things. Whether

people will or not of course remains

to be seen.

There's no sign that the Russia

investigation is winding up -

on the contrary, special counsel

Robert Mueller now reportedly wants

to speak to the president himself.

The focus increasingly seems to be

Mr Trump's conduct in office

and whether or not he attempted

to obstruct justice.

There have been plenty

of developments.

Yesterday we learned that

Attorney General Jeff Sessions

was interviewed as recently as last

week we also discovered

that the former head of the FBI

James Comey was questioned last year

about memos he wrote after meetings

with the president that

made him uncomfortable.

with the president that

Now there are reports that

shortly after the President

fired Mr Comey in May,

he summoned the bureau's acting

director Andrew McCabe and asked him

how he voted in the election.

Last night the White House Press

Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders

was adamant, however,

that the President wants to see

the investigation come to an end

and there were no plans to fire

Robert Mueller.

I think we all know what everybody

in this room would do

if the president did that

and I don't think that's

helpful to the process.

The president wants to see this end

and he wants to see them finally

come to the same conclusion that

I think most everyone in America

has, that there is nothing to this.

They have spent the better part,

most of you have spent the better

part of the year looking,

digging, obsessing over trying

to find something, and have

yet to find anything.

Joining us from our New York studio

is Republican political strategist

and former advisor to George W Bush,

Ron Christie.

This drip, drip, drip of information

may not in the end add up to much

legally for the president, but can

his administration would cover from

the political fallout at this point?

Yes, I think the Trump

administration can get beyond this

if Muller and his investigation do

not produce anything that either

shows collusion with the Russian

government during the past election

cycle or, where I think this

investigation is going now, and

obstruction of justice angle. I

believe it's in our best interests

as a country that our Congress

passes laws. The president signs

them and we govern effectively and

responsibly. But only until this

investigation ends and one way or

the other, I think the Trump

administration will be under a form

of paralysis and it will be

difficult for them to remove

themselves from it.

We have heard

various stories about the

President'sinteractions with the FBI

this week, first and foremost that

he pressured the now directed to

sack his deputy, Andrew Makabe. Now

we read in the Washington Post today

that he pulled Andrew McCain bid and

asked which way he voted in the

election. There has been this

pattern that the president is always

trying to serve the narrative that

the FBI is dirty. My concern,

watching from afar, is that the

Conservative media are now starting

to pick this up. Look at what Fox

had to say yesterday.

It may be time

to declare war outright against the

deep state and clear out the rotten

upper levels of the FBI and the

justice department. Yes, I said the

rot. The FBI and the DOJ have broken

the public trust by destroying

evidence, defying oversight and

actively trying to bring down the

Trump presidency.

Is it right that

the media is going to war with law

enforcement in America, Ron?

I am

very concerned about the revelations

we have heard of late. You have the

assistant director of intelligence

at the FBI and his paramour, Lisa

Paige, exchanging text messages.

Then the FBI tells us that they

can't find 50,000 of those text

messages. What is critical here is

the fact that the period where they

started, December 14, which ended

when they came back online, is the

same day that Robert Mueller was

appointed as a special counsel. As a

lawyer, this looks really damaging

that there appears to be rot, as Mr

jobs from Fox says, at the top of

the justice department, and we need

to get to the bottom of this.

We

don't know the basis for those

allegations, though, because we

haven't seen the memo with regards

to the investigation.

That's right.

I anticipate that that will happen

in the next two weeks. My friends on

Capitol Hill to me there will be

able to release the memo and they

were asked President Trump to

declassify this memo. It's a four

page document that is allegedly

explosive about how intelligence had

been gathered against Mr Trump and

those who are part of his campaign.

We will have to see, but I think

there is a certain level of

paralysis surrounding this

administration until Mr Mueller and

his work finally wrapped up their

business.

Did to get your thoughts

as ever. Time for a quick look at

the day's other news now.

The former Prime Minister David

Cameron has been overheard saying

that Brexit has turned out

"less badly" than feared.

In comments caught on camera,

Mr Cameron, who campaigned

to remain in the EU,

said leaving the EU was a mistake

but "not a disaster".

Apple has announced changes that

allow users to turn off

a controversial feature that slows

down iPhones when batteries

are running low.

The firm was criticised in December

after it admitted deliberately

slowing down some ageing iPhone

models to conserve battery life.

It promised to rectify the problem,

but faces lawsuits over the issue.

Tammy Duckworth will become

the first sitting US

senator to give birth later this

year - at the age of 50.

The Illinois Democrat is a retired

Army lieutenant colonel,

who flew helicopters during the Iraq

War.

She was the first female double

amputee after suffering severe

combat wounds when her Black Hawk

was shot down in 2004.

The Senator says she is expecting

her second child in the spring.

She is incredible, Tammy Duckworth,

the first female double amputee from

the Iraq war, the first disabled

woman elected to the Senate, the

first woman to give birth while

serving in the Senate.

And she wears

it lightly. I met her ten years ago

and was blown away by how normal she

is, in spite of all those firsts. An

extraordinary woman am making the

headlines again.

Here in London, the organisers

of one of the biggest charity events

of the year say they're appalled

by allegations of sexual

harassment at the dinner.

Undercover journalists

from the Financial Times say

they were groped and propositioned

at The Presidents Club's

annual charity fundraiser.

One of the prizes at the auction

was tea with the Bank of England

governor Mark Carney.

The Bank said today

it is withdrawing the offer.

Two London children's hospitals have

both said they will return donations

and the matter has been

raised in Parliament.

Daniela Relph reports.

Undercover at the 5-star

Dorchester Hotel.

Madison Marriage, a reporter

for the Financial Times, Here,

getting ready for a night's work

as a hostess at the Presidents Club

fundraising dinner.

The guests, all men.

The hostesses, all young women, paid

around £200 for an evening's work.

As the dinner began, guests

were told they were at the most

un-PC event of the year.

There was a charity auction,

including an offer of plastic

surgery at a Harley Street clinic,

perhaps, they were told,

for their wives.

And during the evening,

the undercover reporter says

she and others were repeatedly

groped and harassed by male guests.

Multiple women told me that they had

been touched inappropriately,

and that ranged from holding

their hands, to touching

their stomachs, to hands

near the bottom of their back,

things which maybe you might not

find too offensive, but then,

you know, touching their bums,

kind of grabbing them,

pulling them into their laps.

Yeah, so there was a complete range

of sexual harassment, basically.

The event raised more

than £2 million for several

organisations including

Great Ormond Street Hospital.

It now says it will return

all donations, due to the wholly

unacceptable nature of the event.

And in a statement,

the Presidents Club said:

Businessman David Meller

is a trustee of the Presidents Club

and until today, he was also

a nonexecutive board member

at the Department for Education.

He has now stepped

down from that role.

The future of the Presidents Club

dinner is also now in doubt.

Will the allegations of lewd

behaviour end an event that has

been held for 33 years?

Some of the details in this story

are extraordinary. The women were

paraded on stage. They were told to

wear skimpy black outfits with

matching underwear. They were asked

to sign a 5-page nondisclosure

document, and they were told to

leave their mobile phones behind and

not at other boyfriends. But the

most extreme every detail is that

there was a monitoring system in

place in the loos. So if they went

for too long to the toilets, there

was a security guard who would tell

them to come out. Say they were not

even able to escape in the women's

loo.

What worries me is the fact

that we keep being told how things

are changing, but it seems to me

that nothing changes unless you get

caught. And when is that going to

change?

We are going to talk about

it more in the programme. We will

hear from a prominent figure in the

City later.

Every year in Saudi Arabia,

thousands of camels are paraded

at the King Abdulaziz Festival

to be judged on their

shapely lips and humps.

There are cash prizes -

up to $60 million.

This year, however,

scandal - cheating -

with the discovery that botox has

been used to embellish the faces

and curves of our desert friends.

12 camels have been disqualified.

What do you make of that?

How could

you tell the difference? They have

those trembly lips.

I think you can

tell a Botox camel. You have an

expert I! Lemieux read your quote

from the BBC website. It says, the

Botox makes the head more inflated

to that when the camel comes, it's

like, look at how big the head is.

It has big lips and a big nose. So

if you are a connoisseur of camels,

you would definitely notice that

your camel had been injected with

Botox.

I will take your word for it,

Christian. You are such an expert.

This is Beyond 100

Days from the BBC.

Coming up for viewers on the BBC

News Channel and BBC World News,

we're live in Michigan for more

reaction to the sentencing

of the former USA

Gymnastics team doctor.

And President Macron has

a message for the world

about France - we'll find

out exactly what it is.

That's still to come.

The day was always going to be a

very wet and windy one for many

parts of the British Isles, given

the proximity of Georgina, the great

hook of cloud showing the centre of

the storm to the north of Scotland.

Thankfully, not many saw that at

close quarters. What many more will

have seen is this weather front,

gradually slumping towards the south

and east. Anywhere near that, there

was also that combination of very

wet and windy weather, to the extent

that in York, there has been some

flooding around the River Roose, due

to a combination of heavy rain and

snow melt. More widely, we have seen

some very strong gusts of wind.

There was plenty of oomph in those

winds on the western side of

Scotland. Overnight, Georgina will

move towards Scandinavia. The front

filter away from the south-east. We

have a new centre of low pressure

near the north-western quarter of

Northern Ireland. That will keep a

feed of showers going across

northern and western parts of the

British Isles. A bit wintry in those

across the higher ground of

Scotland, the north of England and

the north end of Wales. As we start

the new day on Thursday, it's a

bright and blustery day. Northern

Ireland is close to the centre of

low pressure, so plenty of showers

there. You get a sense that the

showers will join up for a time in

the afternoon anywhere from Scotland

through the western side of England

across Wales. To the north of that

in East Anglia and the south-east,

fewer showers to report. Overnight

from Thursday to Friday, we push the

low pressure into the North Sea.

Behind it, a cold and crisp start

the day on Friday. A quieter day for

the most part, just a bit of a

breeze coming down the North Sea,

ushering in a few showers. It

essentially, it is a dry and fine

day, but feeling fresher than has

been the case of late. Just in time

for the weekend, we are going to

bring weather fronts in from the

Atlantic. Quite a number of isobars

here to take you from Saturday to

Sunday. But at least they are

bending back towards the south-west.

A lot of moisture on that see track

coming towards the British Isles, so

there will be rain at times and it

will be quite windy, but at least in

the south-westerly, it will be

pretty mild.

This is Beyond 100 Days,

with me Christian Fraser in London -

Jane O'Brien's in Washington.

Our top stories -

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France is back at the core of

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Three judges voted against the

corruption that Lula continues to

delight.

It is looking highly

doubtful that he will run again. But

of opponents have gathered in Porto

Alegre to hear the outcome. Our

corresponds at it in a very windy

place, today. And it is raining, as

well, Katie, Kenny tell us a bit

about the case, the indications for

him having supporters?

I think you

will find that the weather here

probably represent the mood of the

Lula supporters. Two out of three

judges have upheld the vote, the

previous conviction, and the

previous sentence, so, at the moment

his original sentence has been

upheld, with a third boat waiting to

happen. The mood here among the

supporters will not be as positive

as it was at the beginning of the

day. They said that they would win

it, and both camps, both pro-and

anti-Lula were convinced that they

would win, and Lula's supporters

look like they will be in for a

disappointment. Whether he can run

for president is still early days.

I

will ask you another question, you

are doing so well. He has not been

to prison, yet. He has not served a

day in jail? Iron that is right. He

was freed on appeal. The two maximum

jurors who have voted already have

actually increase the sentence to

just over 12 years. It is unlikely

that he will go to jail. He does

have to appeal. That is what his

lawyers said they will be doing.

Now, he will remain free, most

likely. Brazilian politics is very

complex, and this has been one of

the biggest chapters in the series.

At the moment, he is free, and that

means that you can still run for

president. That is what has been

doing for the last few months,

saying that he does want to run, and

the people who support in wanting to

run, too. That is what is causing

controversy. We will watch that one

closely, well done, Katie, go and

get dry.

Returning to our top story -

and the former USA gymnastics team

doctor Larry Nassar has been

sentenced to 175 years in prison

for sexually abusing young gymnasts.

Almost 160 of his victims testified

against him in court

in an emotional hearing.

Let's cross live to Lansing,

Michigan where our North America

correspondent Rajini Vaidyanathan

has been following the

proceedings throughout.

Just give us a sense of just how

powerful and changing this case has

been?

Well, Jane, I am standing in

the courtroom, now, and is

completely empty, as I am sure that

you can see. Just over an hour ago,

there was a lot of a intense

emotion, raw emotion, really,

because for seven days, women who

have spoken out against Larry Nassar

detailing the abuse that he had

infected on their impact in this

courtroom to share their stories. It

is more than 156 women who shared

their emotional testimony.

Afterwards, I spoke to some of the

women who I have been interviewing,

throughout the course of the last

week, and one of them said to me,

the biggest legacy for them, in

terms of this case, was the hope

that by speaking out themselves,

other survivors of sexual abuse, who

are watching what happened here in

the courts, would have the courage

to speak out. Because, of course, it

was not just Larry Nassar that they

were angry at. Throughout this case

we have heard testimony after

testimony, criticisms of the

officials and authorities at

Michigan State University, which is

where Larry Nassar worked, and also

USA gymnastics, the US governing

body. Many of these women say that

they try to report him, and raise

concerns about his abuse, and the

way that they were being abused

under the guise of medical

treatment, but instead, those

concerns were ignored. These women

were not believed. I think, the

biggest legacy from all of this, is

that many of the survivors of sexual

abuse now believe that they have not

just given women in this particular

case a voice, but women everywhere,

boys.

Yes, a lot of people watching

this case will wonder how it could

have gone on so long under texted.

To think things will change? As

somebody who covers these --

undetected. Do you think things will

change? As somebody who covers these

stories a lot for the BBC?

I think

in this case. They have some hope,

if not lots of hope. They have

calling for the head of the USA

gymnastics to step down, and she

took over after the abuse was

reported, but many, that I have

spoken to believe that the whole of

the organisation needs to be

restructured, because there is a

deep-rooted culture,... I mentioned

Michigan State University, as well,

and the state of Michigan State

University, there have been caused

for her to step down. She is in post

as far as I believe. Many people

feel that that accountability has

not gone far enough. Will it change

things? Well, I certainly think, any

young woman who has been watching

this trial, who is a survivor of

sexual assault and not showing their

story, I think they may think twice

now about whether they do have the

courage to go to the police, or to

reported to someone, because many of

these young women felt so afraid to

even tell their owns families. These

women's were so young, they did not

even know at the time that what

Larry Nassar was doing to them was

actually sexual abuse, because for

many of them, this was their first

ever sexual experience. That is what

is so horrific about this case.

I do think that things will change

in terms of survivors having a

voice, but many survivors here do

not believe that the authorities and

the officials, who are the ones that

people go to with these kinds of

abuse, they need to change their

mindsets, too.

Very good to get your

thoughts, thank you very much for

your reporting.

The French President,

Emmanuel Macron, has told

the World Economic Forum

in Switzerland that France is back

at the core of Europe

under his leadership.

He also told world leaders that

globalisation is facing a "major

crisis" and that focussing on growth

had led to more inequality.

He urged delegates that it was down

to everyone to look for solutions.

Let us not be naive. In this global

challenge requires, cooperation from

international organisations, states,

companies, civil society, in order

to find and implement to solutions,

and the reason I'd came here today

is to make a call to action. And, a

call to all and everyone of us...

Our correspondence track travels

with Mr Emmanuel Macron. I am sure

people back at home is very pleased

that Emmanuel Macron is establishing

him abroad, but do they look at the

problems at home and think, what is

he changing?

It was a rather

delicate speech, you know. He

started in English about his reforms

in France. Expending how flexible

France was because of his reforms,

how he could adapt better to

globalisation, and then, on the

other hand, in English, he is

pleaded to change globalisation,

because many states, lower their

taxes and there social standards, to

adapt to globalisation. So, for

French people, it is a little bit

contradictory, between those two

speeches.

Well, exactly,

globalisation has brought millions

out of poverty in the developing

world, but it has also created an

underclass in Western societies, and

I travelled around France, and the

world leaders have not found the

answers to that.

Yes, he has got to

answer to those two different

things. He is talking both to those

people and to Davos leaders. Two

French people, he is saying, look,

we have to change globalisation,

because this is too much

flexibility, of lowering taxes,

lowering social standards, and then

on the other hand, he spoke to Davos

leaders in English, think how good

his reforms were. To make France

more flexible and to lower taxes,

because he lowered tax on companies,

he lowered taxes on fortunes, and

how good it was the France. And, on

the other hand he said let's not

have the countries, only to

themselves, that have cooperation,

and convergence. It is two different

speeches in two different languages.

It will be interesting to see which

speech President Trump wants to

listen to and take notice of when he

had there later this week. Why do

you think Emmanuel Macron and Donald

Trump get on so well when their

global views are actually quite

different?

Well, they do have common

point in a way. Both of them, were

newcomers and now an effected in

politics, and they change the

system. So, on this point, they have

similar... Both of them wanted to

change, wanted to be the new man,

and they did it. So, in

this way, Macron likes job a lot. He

was the outsider, the an predictable

victory. Macron has a way of saying,

let's agree to disagree, and let's

try and see what points we can work

together, and also, he wants to be

Trump's best friend in Europe,

because Great Britain is out of the

game, and Germany is weakened, so,

now, let France do the part of being

Trump's best friend. We have got

many things to gain from this.

What

about the French people's reaction

to President Trump. He does not seem

to express the same opprobrium, you

just mentioned Great Britain there

who do not want to see President

Trump, do the French share that

antipathy?

It is not like when

British people petition, and yelled

about his coming. When Trump came in

July, French people thought it was

rather clever, from Macron, to have

him at home, trying to tame him,

like a... You know, an animal that

you have too tame. So, to get along

with him, because it would be

interesting for us... They did not

see it as a compromise, they saw it

as clever. We had Putin just a few

days before. Just like Putin, it is

a way to try to manipulate them.

This is the idea of French people,

and Macron is able to manipulate

them. I think it is a little bit of

this.

Very interesting.

Thank you

very much indeed for joining us. The

latest from Davos, there.

So-called Islamic State has lost

almost all the territory it once

held in the Middle East.

But Interpol is warning that

fighters are continuing to pose

a threat as they return home or move

to other global hotspots.

And the group has also been blamed

for inspiring attacks abroad

by radicalizing people online.

In fact home grown terrorism remains

one of the hardest threats

to detect and prevent.

A brief time ago we were joined

from Davos by Jurgen Stock,

Interpol's Secretary General.

I asked him where the bulk

of the Islamic State fighters

We see that a lot of these fighters

who have been joining into the

fight, so we think about

40,000 from almost 100

countries, that they

are

now, some of them returning

to their home countries.

Some of them remain

in the conflict zone, as a part of

the insurgency, and others might

travel to other parts of the world,

and join terrorist groups

in this part of the world.

So, the sharing of relevant

police information to

track these travel activities, to

build a kind of early warning system

is more important than ever,

because, again, this has really

become a global threat.

But, of course, the best

intelligence will

be in Syria and in Iraq.

How easy is it to get that

kind of information?

I think we are now

having to develop

a strong cooperation,

with the

counter coalition for in instance.

And one of the project

is that we try and translate better

information.

That is information that

are still on the battlefield,

that we translate this military

information into law enforcement.

In close cooperation

with our Interpol

National Central bureaus,

and to provide this information

for our global police community

of 190

member countries.

And to make sure that this

information is available

at the front lines,

at border stations,

or even in the hands

of

individual police officers who are

conducting checks of persons or cars

in the streets of any major

city or in any hotspot.

What about the realm of cyber

security, because a lot of

the terror threat is now moving

online, you getting the help that

you need from social media

organisations whose platforms are

often used by terrorists?

I think we have made a lot

of progress, getting

cooperating with the private sector

specifically, particularly

with the Internet service providers.

There are a lot of

political initiatives

going on under the umbrella

for instance of the G-7.

Ministers of the interior,

that is one of the

examples where Interpol tries

to play its role as a facilitator of

information exchange, and to make

this information available to our

member countries, and to translate

this information into complete

action.

With regard to the Internet,

which are still playing a role, not

just in providing propaganda,

but providing that information,

on other things that requires also

a strong

corporation with the private sector.

And, how great would

you say is the terror

threat now, at the start

of

2018?

I think that the threat level

currently, the problem is that we

have a real global dimension, and we

have a multilayered threat level,

currently that means

that we see a lot of terrorists

travelling around the world.

They are battle

hardened, if I may say.

They are sometimes brutalised

from conflicts that have

taken place.

That requires a new level of

information sharing, and that's

exactly what Interpol is about. It

is about encouraging the member

countries of Interpol to use our

databases, to improve our

information, for instance, biometric

information about terrorists and

suspects, but making sure that these

information is accessible for

policing.

This is Beyond 100 Days.

Still to come -

As delegates expected Donald Trump's

arrival, can expect a political

blizzard, too.

A jury's been told that a man

accused of carrying out the Finsbury

park terror attack last June kept

smiling and even blew a kiss

at the gathering crowd

after ploughing a van

into muslim worshippers.

Darren Osborne from Cardiff denies

murder and attempted murder

after the attack in North London

which left one man dead.

Daniel Sandford reports.

Witness after witness

described how the van

Witness after witness described how

the van revved its engines, just

before smashing into the group

of Muslim men and women.

Some survivors describe how

they feared for their

lives, thinking someone

would get out of the van

with a gun or a knife.

The jury heard this 999 call made

by a witness, who was asking

for ambulances.

Within the hour, 51 your

old Makram Ali was declared dead at

the scene.

Hamdi al-Faiq suffered life changing

injuries, including a

broken pelvis, broken

ribs, and a broken foot.

He told the court how friends

pulled out from under the

van.

People grabbed the man they believed

to be the driver of the

van, to detain him.

The court heard that some

were punching and kicking

him.

The imam of the local mosque,

stop people attacking the suspected

driver, telling the jury, he should

answer for his crimes in a court

such as this, and not

a court in the street.

In a statement to the court,

the man who made the 999 call said

that the man who had been

detained said to the crowd,

"I've done my job,

you can kill me now."

He was constantly smiling,

the man recalled.

The man on trial, Darren Osborne,

denies charges of murder

and attempted murder.

The court was played

a video from a police

officer's body worn

camera for the night,

in which Darren Osborne rant

about Muslims, and says, "have some

of that!

Have some of your own!

At least I had a proper go."

You're watching Beyond 100 Days.

The organisers of a men-only charity

dinner in London have said they're

appalled by allegations of sexual

harassment at the event.

Undercover journalists

from the Financial Times say

they were groped and propositioned

at the Presidents Club annual

charity fundraiser in London, which,

should sound these days

like something from

another era - but oh no.

Hostesses intructed to wear short

skirts and matching underwear;

charity prizes including

"plastic surgery" to "add

spice to your wife."

And the event welcoming

guests to "the most un-PC

event of the year."

MPs reacted with fury

in the Commons today.

Women were bought as bait for men,

who are rich men, not a mile

from where we stand,

as if that

is an acceptable behaviour.

It is totally unacceptable.

The fact that there are

men who attend those

dinners, and think

it is appropriate...

One of the prizes on that brochure

was plastic surgery to

"spice up your wife".

This is quite extroardinary to me,

Mr Speaker, that in

the 21st-century, allegations

of this kind are still emerging.

Nicola Horlick is well-known

in the City of London,

CEO of Money and Co and a fund

manager since the 1980s.

When I met her earlier I asked her

surprise she was?

When I read that

article, it was like reading

something that happened 35 or 40

years ago. Not something you would

expect to happen in 2018.

Particularly not after all of the

terrible things that have been

happening in Hollywood and other

places. It just seems very strange.

Exactly, given the stories that we

have read in recent months, it would

almost seem that the organisers were

tone deaf to the times that we are

living in.

Absolutely. I have heard

people say, these girls should not

have gone along and been hostesses,

but we are talking about girls who

are undergraduates who had just

graduated, who were living in

London, which is a very expensive

place, and being offered to go to a

charity dinner, being paid £200 to

do it, which is a good contribution

to the rent. You can understand why

they might have done, and that

especially when told that it was a

charity dinner.

So, these women were

paraded on stage, and some of the

behaviour that you read about is

incredible. Hands up skirts, hands

on bottoms. Does it surprise you

that these men would surprise you in

such a way? Tenner well, it does

real surprise me. It makes me think

that we have got a long way to go.

Yellow mac it clearly has not

changed, if this sort of thing is

happening in 2018. A lot of the

people seem to pay lip service to

the idea that women should be

treated properly, and that there has

been equal pay, and all these other

things that women complain about,

and that we should have most lenient

women in executive places, and

there's a big difference do have a

nonexecutive director on the board,

and a and executive. I think the

only way that we are good to stamp

this up is that if women start

rising up to the very top. We need

more women CEOs, more women finance

directors, female chairman of

companies, in order to stop this

happening. If you are being

charitable, you say it is very silly

behaviour, but the fact that people

have been assaulted, is a criminal

offence, and these people have been

asked to sign contract saying that

if they were harassed on the night

then they would not take any action,

because of a nondisclosure

agreement. That is terrible. I

really think that women have to

stand up and be more vocal and

demand that things change. We learnt

in the last few hours... There have

been calls today for people to

resign, is that too much given that

some of them would have been there

as invited guest?

Some of these

people have businesses of their own,

and you can't make then resign. I

don't think it's about resignations,

it is about changing the culture. We

have clearly failed in that. We have

got to make more progress. I think

this is just another example of why

we need to actually stand up and say

no, enough, stop. And, I think it is

incumbent upon women, whether they

are businesswomen, or anyone in any

position, anywhere in any company,

to demand to be treated properly and

as an equal. That includes pay, as

well as just general courtesy. We

are not different, we are all human

beings, and we should be treated

properly.

Very good to talk to you.

We are almost at the end

of the programme.

Katty is back tomorrow -

she will be in Davos

for the arrival of Donald Trump.

I do hope Christian she has seen

Jon Sopel's latest tweet.

What are they talking about?

I did

not think there was such a thing as

blizzard business attire, but

apparently this is that the job. If

you doubt that Davos is the most

ridiculous pace to hold a

confidence, -- conference, this is

the window of the BBC offers. Having

to dig themselves out. Though, he

will need his crampons tomorrow, and

so will catch the annual June into

her when she arrived in -- tune in

to her when