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Trump takes over Davos.

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The populist president meets

the global elite and promises

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peace and prosperity.

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They might now like what he says

and how he says it but business

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leaders are very happy

with his economic policies.

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Mr Trump gives the Prime Minister

a boost anticipating a tremendous

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increase in trade between the UK

and the US after Brexit

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He warns that US aid could be taken

away from the Palestinians

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if they aren't prepared to negotiate

a peace deal.

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He has famously sparred

with the White House

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but Republican Senator Bob Corker

credits the president

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for the economy and tells me what he

wants to hear from Donald Trump.

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I hope that when he comes

and speaks tomorrow,

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that he does so in a manner

to re-establish, or at least build

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back some of the trust

that our nation has had.

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Also on the programme:

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The President says he will sit down

with Robert Mueller under oath.

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But once again questions

the integrity of the FBI.

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And Davos is one of the most

expensive places to be

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in the world right now,

we'll look at what's it's

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'Beyond-One-Hundred-Days'

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Hello and welcome.

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I'm Katty Kay in Davos

and Christian Fraser is in London.

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Donald Trump has

taken Davos by storm.

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You might think that the global

crowd gathered in Switzerland has

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nothing but antipathy for the US

President.

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Well think again.

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International business leaders

gathered here may mutter

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in disapproval at Mr Trump's tone

but they are very happy

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with the economic boom fueled

by his tax cuts and deregulation.

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It's a strange paradox

and one the disruptor

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in chief may well relish.

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Administration officials

say they are heartened

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that the reception at

the World Economic Forum has been

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as positive as it has been.

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So now the question is does the US

President reach out a hand of global

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friendship in his speech tomorrow

or a stern reminder that he's

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putting America first.

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I've been speaking to Republican

Senator Bob Corker, chairman

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of the Foreign Relations Committee,

who's been critical

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of the President's behaviour

suggesting he needs supervision.

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I asked him if he thinks

Donald Trump is doing a good

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job on the world stage.

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I think from the very beginning,

I have criticised things I thought

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needed to be criticised.

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But I have also applauded those

things that needed to be applauded

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and you and I were just talking

before we came on here,

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the economic situation around

the world is very different

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than what people thought at this

time and I think what he has done

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in our country is release

the animal spirits.

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I don't think there is any question,

with the deregulation,

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tax reform that's taken place,

it's not only affecting us,

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but it's affecting other

countries that trade with us,

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which is most of them.

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So I think again, support those

things you think are good

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for the country and the world

and sometimes, some of the comments

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I wish were made in a different way.

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All the things you deal

with from a national

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security point of view,

whether it is North Korea

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or the Middle East, Russia or China,

all of those in security still exist

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insecurities still exist

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in the world.

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You've accused the president

of inching the world

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towards World War III,

has that gone away now?

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It seems to me that we are

moderating some of our policies

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and I think understanding

what our role in the world is.

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We will continue to press for that.

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But again, I think when you have

this, this incredible growth

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that's taking place,

you should applaud that.

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Yet, you are right, we still have

all these intractable issues.

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I've been on panels this

week relative to Russia,

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relative to China's growth.

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We still have tremendous issues

to deal with in the nation.

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OK, let's talk about China

and North Korea, because of course

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the president came here

and announced sanctions against some

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South Korean, tariffs on some

South Korean products.

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Is this a wise time to be doing

things that might alienate a key

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ally when it comes to dealing

with North Korea?

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Well, at one point they were

looking at moving out

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of the South Korean trade agreement.

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So I think what has happened has

ended up being far smaller

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than what people expected.

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But why do anything to alienate

South Korea at this particular

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junction when things are so fragile

with North Korea?

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I think that again, he is following

through on the things

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he said he would do,

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but not in the sort of manner

that is as punishing

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as people had once thought.

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I am glad of that, the pushback

against the solar panels was really

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not as bad as it could have been.

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So look, he's demonstrating,

or at least attempting

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to demonstrate he will pushback

on inequalities and trade,

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but at the same time,

we haven't seen the things that can

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so many people that are here,

just wanting to do away

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with trade agreements.

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The other issue I hear concern

about from European diplomats

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and I'm sure you hear it

when you speak to Europeans

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is the issue of Iran

and a sense of unpredictability

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about the administration.

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We lurch from deadline to deadline

and it's only 24 hours before

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the next deadline that we know

what the White House

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is going to do in terms

of recertifying the Iran deal,

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or continuing the

waiver on sanctions.

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Does that lack of clarity hamper

the long-term future

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of the Iran nuclear deal?

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The concern people have

about what he's actually going to do

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has actually stimulated discussions,

that otherwise would not have taken

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place if they knew he was not

going to do anything relative

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to the agreement, he was

going to do it in place.

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We wouldn't be having

the conversations we are having.

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On the other hand, no doubt you have

seen the trust factor around

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the world and the view

of the United States.

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No doubt many of the statements

that have been made,

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some of the actions,

many of the actions have

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caused people to wonder

whether we are liable allies,

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a reliable friend.

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I hope that when he comes and speaks

tomorrow that he does so in a manner

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to re-establish or at least build

back some of the trust

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that our nation has had.

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The most critical thing you have

said about this president is a tweet

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you sent out famously in October

in which you called the White House

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an adult daycare centre

and that it was lacking adult

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supervision, somebody had

missed their shift.

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Do you stand by that tweet?

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Look, I say what is on my mind

at the time and you know,

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I do so with thoughtfulness

when I do it.

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I have moved on, we have

continued to work with them.

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We work every day actually,

with the administration trying

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to make sure good policies

are put in place.

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I will say that the administration

has a top-notch group of people

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involved in foreign policy that

I have tremendous amounts of respect

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for and we work with them nonstop

to try to ensure the policies that

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are put forward are

good for the nation.

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What about the president himself,

do you still believe

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he need adult supervision?

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he needs adult supervision?

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The president is an unusual person

in that all of those people who work

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around him really don't know

what the outcome is going to be,

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the decision is going to be.

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So they will work for months

sometimes, sometimes it's weeks,

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to try and shape a policy point.

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You know, it is an unusual decision

process that takes place.

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But it is where we are and let's

face it, again on the economic

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peice, on the deregulation piece,

a lot of good things have

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happened as a result of it.

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Another straight shooter? Yes, being

careful to say things have got

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better, we have moved

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careful to say things have got

better, we have moved on in the

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relationship. It did get bad when he

sent out the tweet about the White

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House being an adult daycare centre.

But Senator Bob Corker like the

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leaders gathered here in Davos

realise they have to deal with the

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United States and deal with this

very unusual presidency. Watching

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world leaders here this week as

President Trump comes in and takes

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over the show in Davos. For all we

talk about America retreating, it is

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a reminder that the White House,

President Trump, the United States

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of America, when it wants to can

throw its weight around and make its

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presence felt and that is what he is

doing in Davos at the moment.

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Through the cause of the day I have

seen him waving, smiling and talking

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about peace and prosperity. This is

the global elite he bashed up in the

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campaign?

I bet if you polled them

on a personal level and speak to

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business leaders, they aren't

impressed with some of the things

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the president stands for, his

policies on immigration and he does

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talk about imposing more tariffs and

he is disrupting the free trade

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order. Some of the things he says,

the way he has talked about African

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nations in the last few weeks. They

don't like any of that, but they do

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like the economy and be revelling in

the fact they are doing so well.

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There is a schizophrenic reaction to

Donald Trump in Davos. Some

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officials a couple of hours ago said

we are happy with the way things are

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going.

BATE are the biggest show in

town. They have been making

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headlines already.

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President Trump has been meeting

today with the Israeli Prime

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Minister Benjamin Netenyahu.

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And during that meeting he

questioned whether the peace talks

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with the Palestinians can resume.

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When they disrespected us a week ago

by not allowing our vice president

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to see them and we give them

hundreds and millions of dollars in

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aid and support, tremendous numbers.

Numbers that liberty understands.

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That money is on the table and that

money is not going to them unless

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they sit down and negotiate peace.

Because I can tell you that Israel

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does want to make peace and they

have to want to make peace or we

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will have nothing to do with it any

longer.

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Our diplomatic correspondent

James Landale is here with us now.

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This is Donald Trump the businessmen

rather than Donald Trump the

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diplomat? Yes, he thinks he is

involved in something like a

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business deal and you can threaten

the withholding of money, UN money

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that does a lot of work for the

Palestinians. His aim is to say, we

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want you to consider peace talks, as

he calls them, by threatening to

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withhold the money. At the moment,

the Palestinians are not playing

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ball. There is an outright refusal

to agree to this. They are saying as

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a result of this, these threats,

Donald Trump to recognise Jerusalem

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as the capital, they don't see the

US as they have in the past.

He is

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saying Jerusalem is off the table

and president about as saying if

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Jerusalem is off the table than

America is off the table as the

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negotiator?

>> guest-macro: The Palestinians

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don't accept that. Everyone is

waiting on the great new

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announcement that the White House we

think are going to make potentially

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sometime this year, which is their

plans for the middle east issue.

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Jared Kushner, the President's

son-in-law is working on that. But

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when you ask where are they going,

where are they heading? You don't

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get much detail.

James Ireland the

stand you are a genius and you

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arrived in the studio and you would

be talking about the special

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relationship, so how much when you

speak to European allies, do you

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hear that the issue of Jerusalem is

causing disquiet amongst them and

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the decision to recognise Jerusalem

as the capital of Israel or have

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they decided it is something

President Trump always said he was

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going to do and we will have to live

with it?

On one level, they factored

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it in because they were expecting it

at some stage. Some of them, when

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they talk to European leaders and

politicians, they are relieved the

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scale of potential violence and

disruption it could have caused in

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the region as a result of that

announcement has been quite muted.

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There hasn't been the potential

outrage and it hasn't been matched

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by any physical response. I think

their concern is this, is that the

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wider shift of President Trump

saying we will support the Israelis

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on Israel. President Trump saying we

will support the Saudi Arabians in

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putting more pressure on Iran.

Particularly the threat still

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outstanding of whether or not the

United States will give up its

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support for the Iran nuclear deal.

That is something that is at the

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heart of a lot of policymakers,

their concerns within Europe. They

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are thinking long and hard about

what impact that will have in the

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long term.

You see come he just

moved seamlessly from the special

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relationship into Israeli,

Palestinian policies. James

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Langdale, thank you.

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President Trump also met of course

with the British Prime

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Minister, Theresa May.

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The first time the two have met

since Mrs May criticised him

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for retweeting those videos posted

by the far right

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group Britain First.

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President Trump has cancelled

a scheduled visit to London

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to open the new US Embassy.

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But today Mr Trump promised

a "tremendous increase" in trade

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between the US and Britain.

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Mrs May said the meeting reaffirmed

the special relationship

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between the two countries.

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She is under pressure to prove that

Britain will benefit from new trade

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deals when it leaves the EU.

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We have had great discussion today

and there is a special relationship

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between the UK and the United

States, standings 's shoulder to

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shoulder against the challenges

across the world. Alongside back,

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working for a good trade

relationship in the future which

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will benefit both of us. So the UK

and the US both do well out of this

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and it has been great to see each

other.

It is great to see you. One

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thing that will be taking place over

a number of years is trade, trade

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will increase many times and we look

forward to that. The trade concept

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and discussions, they will be taking

place and they are going to lead to

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tremendous increases in trade

between our two countries. Which is

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great for both in terms of jobs and

we look forward to that. We are

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starting the process pretty much as

we speak. Thank you all very much

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for being here. Thank you.

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The president has just treated

saying he has had a productive

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meeting with the Prime Minister.

Laura Kuennsburg says, Theresa May

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trying to get as many words in as

she can be for Trump speaks after

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stories that he does all the

talking.

I know you are the expert

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on body language, what did you think

about that?

She cut away, and it

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looks like he squeezed her hand to

type, but he does that with

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everybody so he cannot read too much

into that.

Look at that handshake

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with President Macron, it went on

for ever and ever.

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I did ask if the UK would be let off

some of the stringent requirements

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there might be in a trade deal, how

long was going to take? I was met

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with a certain amount of scepticism

and told they will have to stick to

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the rules and it will take some

time.

BATE are saying in the last

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few minutes, the visit of Donald

Trump will be back on in the second

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half of the year but they are not

saying if it is a state visit. Let's

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look at some of the other news.

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The president of Michigan State

University has resigned over

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the scandal surrounding years

of abuse by the former USA

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Gymnastics team doctor Larry Nassar.

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Nassar, who used to work

at the university, has just been

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sentenced to 175 years in prison

for sexually molesting

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young athletes.

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The new leader of South Africa's

governing African National Congress

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party, Cyril Ramaphosa,

has told the BBC that

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the country has been badly

affected by corruption.

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He said the state had been

captured, as he put it,

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by people purporting to be close

to President Jacob Zuma.

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He said allegations

against the president

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and others were being handled

by a judicial inquiry.

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Hindu hardliners have ransacked

shops, burnt vehicles and clashed

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with police in parts of northern

India during protests

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against a Bollywood

film."Padmaavat" is a period drama

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about a relationship between a Hindu

queen and a Muslim ruler.

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Hindu extremist groups say

the film distorts history.

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Before leaving for Davos

the President gave an impromptu

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press conference to White House

reporters, in which he said

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he was willing and eager to be

interviewed by Robert Mueller

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the special counsel under oath.

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I am looking forward to it. There

has been no collusion whatsoever,

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there is no obstruction whatsoever

and I am looking forward to it.

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The President is convinced

the Russia investigation

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is a political witch-hunt

to undermine his election victory.

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And his anger is fuelled

by the allegations and conspiracy

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theories that are

swirling around the FBI.

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The latest drama involves

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a secret four page memo that has

been written by the chairman

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of the House Intelligence

Committee, Devin Nunes.

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We still don't know what's in that

memo because the House intelligence

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committee won't release it,

not even to the FBI

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or the Justice Department.

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But senior Republicans have seen it

and are commenting on it publicly.

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The baseline allegation appears

to be that the Obama administration

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approved secret surveillance

to target members of the Trump

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campaign and that this

Russia investigation

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is politically motivated.

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The Republicans have also have

seized on an anti-Trump text message

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referencing a "secret society" that

an FBI lawyer, Lisa Page,

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sent to senior FBI agent

Peter Strzok, who was working

0:19:120:19:16

on the Russia investigation...

0:19:160:19:19

"Are you even going to give

out your calendars?"

0:19:190:19:22

She wrote.

0:19:220:19:23

"Seems kind of depressing.

0:19:230:19:25

Maybe it should just be the first

meeting of the secret society."

0:19:250:19:28

It later emerged that further texts

Strzok and Page exchanged

0:19:280:19:31

between December and May last

year, had disappeared.

0:19:310:19:34

The FBI had blamed

a programming glitch.

0:19:340:19:38

But the President last night

compared it to Watergate

0:19:380:19:42

and the 18.5 minute gap in a crucial

tape, deleted by Nixon's then

0:19:420:19:46

secretary Rosemary Woods.

0:19:460:19:56

I am very disturbed, as is the

general, as is everybody else who is

0:19:560:20:01

intelligent. When you look at five

months, this is the great Rosemary

0:20:010:20:08

Woods, right? This is a large-scale

version. That was 18 minutes, this

0:20:080:20:15

is five. They say it is 50,000 text

messages and it is prime time. That

0:20:150:20:20

is disturbing.

This isn't the first

time the president has made

0:20:200:20:30

comparisons with Watergate.

0:20:300:20:31

However, in the last hour

the Justice Department Inspector

0:20:310:20:34

General said his office has

"succeeded in using forensic tools

0:20:340:20:38

to recover text messages

from FBI devices".

0:20:380:20:39

I have been putting some

0:20:390:20:41

of this story to the

Virginia Democrat Don Beyer

0:20:410:20:43

The president said he is eager to

sit down with Robert Mueller and the

0:20:430:20:53

investigation, is this nearing the

end? Is it leading somewhere?

It is

0:20:530:20:57

leading somewhere. Whitewater went

on for ever and Benghazi, which was

0:20:570:21:04

about nothing, went on for years. I

think Mueller will act more quickly.

0:21:040:21:09

He doesn't have a political agenda.

I think what most Americans want is

0:21:090:21:14

just for the truth to come out,

whatever it is.

What do you make of

0:21:140:21:19

the criticism of the FBI at the

moment and it seems to have heated

0:21:190:21:22

up in the last few days that the FBI

is bias, there is some kind of

0:21:220:21:26

secret society in the Federal bureau

of investigation, which is trying to

0:21:260:21:33

undermine the president?

Ridiculous.

The FBI are famous for their

0:21:330:21:40

professionalism and we often see

them as very conservative and much

0:21:400:21:44

more Republican leaning. If anything

they will be leaning towards

0:21:440:21:49

protecting the president. They have

a deep commitment to uncovering what

0:21:490:21:52

the truth is because that is their

responsibility. Missing text

0:21:520:21:56

messages about when we are going to

dinner is silly.

Where does this

0:21:560:22:02

come from why would groups want to

criticise the FBI like this, where

0:22:020:22:07

is it leading?

If there is illegal

and improper and Donald Trump's

0:22:070:22:13

behaviour, one of the things that

comes up again, what is the source

0:22:130:22:17

of his money for his real estate,

what does that do to connect Russia?

0:22:170:22:21

I don't know. So I think they want

to undermine the FBI's credibility

0:22:210:22:28

now before it comes out.

You think

it is about the integrity of the

0:22:280:22:32

Russian investigation not about the

integrity of the FBI itself?

It is

0:22:320:22:38

harder to attack the Russian

investigation, although they do it

0:22:380:22:42

pretty good, but if you can

undermine the FBI, you try to make

0:22:420:22:46

the problem go away.

Are you

surprised how positive European

0:22:460:22:50

business leaders are about the state

of the world economy and how much

0:22:500:22:54

credit they will give Donald Trump

and are prepared to give Donald

0:22:540:22:58

Trump? I think the reaction Donald

Trump is getting here is not what

0:22:580:23:02

you might expect from the so-called

global elite?

The US is essentially

0:23:020:23:09

at full employment we have all these

years in a row of positive growth.

0:23:090:23:12

But the rest of the world is growing

as well. He put that with

0:23:120:23:20

significant tax decreases the public

corporations and people are feeling

0:23:200:23:22

good about the future.

Donald Trump

can do a deserved victory lap, is

0:23:220:23:27

that what you're saying?

They will

get the blame, they will get the

0:23:270:23:31

credit. I'd prefer to look at how

Obama inherited an economy in 2009

0:23:310:23:36

and headed to 15% unemployment and

then we went to remarkable growth,

0:23:360:23:45

which is sustained so

congratulations to Donald Trump

0:23:450:23:51

keeping it growing.

What is your

reputation with Donald Trump with

0:23:510:23:56

these people tomorrow?

His speech is

important, it is synonymous with

0:23:560:24:03

Douglas. We are working together on

poverty, hunger and the fourth

0:24:030:24:08

industrial revolution. All the

things not part of the Trump agenda.

0:24:080:24:11

We will see how he aligns those put

them together tomorrow.

Thank you

0:24:110:24:15

for joining me.

0:24:150:24:23

Somebody has overlooked night

invitation to join the global elite.

0:24:230:24:31

Some have to be left behind.

I have

devised a little quiz and I want

0:24:310:24:38

answers to where you fit in the

Davos hierarchy. Did you arrive by

0:24:380:24:45

car, train or helicopter?

Car.

OK,

does your accommodation look like

0:24:450:24:50

this?

Yes, absolutely that is where

I am staying in a large suite and

0:24:500:24:57

thank you so much for the offer of

paying the bill, it is on the way to

0:24:570:25:01

you.

That is on the 100 days charge

codes. What list of party were you

0:25:010:25:10

at last night?

I wasn't at any, I

spent most of the time trying to

0:25:100:25:14

stuff myself with medicine, which is

why I am wearing a woolly hat and

0:25:140:25:19

apparently I look like a bank

robber. I was in the infirmary.

You

0:25:190:25:27

are more Detroit than Davos. What

are you wearing on your feet, snow

0:25:270:25:32

boots like the Prime Minister or

throwaway crampons?

Wet socks. She

0:25:320:25:40

will be happy because she will say

get your dry shoes on especially

0:25:400:25:44

when you have a cold.

You're no

good, I am next year.

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Good evening. Early on we have most

of the showers in the West and the

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sunny skies in the east. Though

showers are moving their way

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eastwards now. Particularly across

England and Wales. Maybe if you have

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the one to begin with but they do

become fewer, the showers and they

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become lighter but we are left with

a residue of cloud across England

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and Wales. This should keep

temperatures. Different story in

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Scotland and Northern Ireland. Winds

will be lights are likely to be a

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touch of frost. Could be icy patches

around Scotland in particular.

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Possibly Northern Ireland, although

more likely to have fog around here

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early on Friday. Eventually as the

cloud breaks at the end of the

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nights of the start of the morning,

we could see the temperatures

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dipping in the north-west of England

and West Wales. As we had to the

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Midlands East Anglia and the

south-east of England, it is a

0:26:560:26:58

cloudy start and there will be like

showers, one or two showers clipping

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Pembrokeshire and perhaps into

Cornwall. Otherwise we should see a

0:27:020:27:09

dry day with good spells of

sunshine. We'll use the fog in

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Northern Ireland in the morning. The

cloud is stubborn across the

0:27:130:27:16

south-east of the UK, it does break

up eventually, any showers will fade

0:27:160:27:21

away and temperatures will probably

be around six, 9 degrees. A fine day

0:27:210:27:26

ahead of rain coming into the

north-west later on. The weather

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front will be weakening as it runs

eastwards, barging into the back of

0:27:290:27:32

it we have a deepening area of low

pressure strengthening the winds and

0:27:320:27:36

the warm front, the weather front

will bring more persistent rain

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early on in the day. As the rain

pushes its way eastwards, the rain

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becomes lighter and more party. Will

Beer windy day with sunshine across

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northern and western areas. We dig

up the winds in the north-west of

0:27:480:27:51

Scotland. We are drawing in mother

air, temperatures on Saturday will

0:27:510:27:54

be higher than they will be on

Friday. There's Tebbit is likely to

0:27:540:27:59

continue to climb during the second

half of the weekend. Slightly cooler

0:27:590:28:03

air across the far north of

Scotland. It will be windy overnight

0:28:030:28:08

and into Sunday, gales transferring

their way for a while towards the

0:28:080:28:15

Northern Isles. Rain across

Scotland, particularly over the

0:28:150:28:16

hills and perhaps England and Wales.

The third east you are and the

0:28:160:28:19

shelter from the high ground, we

could get some sunshine. Windy

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weekend, it will be a mild one as

well and as we head into the

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beginning of next week, temperatures

will be little lower.

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I'm Katty Kay in New York -

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He loves Theresa May and Britain,

and expect a tremendous increase in

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trade between America and Great

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Britain.

And coming up in the next

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Taking a stand as the US did the

other day on washing machines and

0:31:130:31:17

solar panels, he said, should not be

considered protectionist. Their

0:31:170:31:24

trade is part of the debate that is

going on here at Davos, but what

0:31:240:31:27

exactly is it, and how does the

world redistribute the wealth that

0:31:270:31:32

is being created.

Free trade is the

best way to optimise wealth creation

0:31:320:31:38

around the world. But, an economic

system has got to be doing two

0:31:380:31:42

things, it has got to generate

wealth and distribute it. If you

0:31:420:31:48

fail to distribute it in a fair way,

you get political unrest, and that

0:31:480:31:52

is not good for an economic system

among other things. One of the

0:31:520:31:57

things that Mr Trump has tapped

into, is a feeling that the

0:31:570:32:00

distribution has not worked out

well. The economic system has not

0:32:000:32:04

worked. Some of that take space with

wage inequality within the country,

0:32:040:32:07

but some of that is the effect of

trade amongst countries.

So, what

0:32:070:32:14

our business leaders going to do

about this. A short time ago, we

0:32:140:32:18

caught up with our economic editor.

Iron I think that the business

0:32:180:32:23

leaders, here, do understand that

there is a risk to, some might say,

0:32:230:32:28

their very existence, if economies

can't work, so that everyone feels

0:32:280:32:31

that they can gain a little

prosperity. Frankly, people are

0:32:310:32:35

going to respond to that by reacting

against businesses, by reacting

0:32:350:32:41

against governments, by reacting

against the global elites. I think

0:32:410:32:45

there is a genuine sense here, but

many other people, that although

0:32:450:32:52

there is growth, it is not both

everybody. There have been talking

0:32:520:32:57

about this trade issue. It's not

about protectionism, he is saying,

0:32:570:33:04

it is about asymmetric trade, so

that America gets you less out of

0:33:040:33:07

the free trade deals and the other

side of the free trade deal, and I

0:33:070:33:11

think that there is a real

understanding Thomas Acquier be

0:33:110:33:20

president companies actually onto

something, here. -- maybe Donald

0:33:200:33:25

Trump is onto something here.

Everybody seems very happy with the

0:33:250:33:29

global state of the economy, so

where are they -- what are they

0:33:290:33:33

going to do about this idea that

they have to look out for those

0:33:330:33:36

people who have not benefited from

the surge in wealth?

Every since the

0:33:360:33:42

financial crisis, there have been

one big trend which businesses

0:33:420:33:44

really need to think about. The

returns to capital, to assets have

0:33:440:33:49

been far higher than the returns to

income, to Labour. And, around the

0:33:490:33:54

world, particularly in developed

countries, there has been as incomes

0:33:540:33:59

grieves, and writers have been

rising faster than wages.

Must ask

0:33:590:34:05

you about the meeting with the Prime

Minister, Theresa May. He has

0:34:050:34:08

treated in the last hour or so about

the special relationship, which is

0:34:080:34:12

very much a British time, call me a

cynic. Somebody has Odyssey told him

0:34:120:34:17

that it is important to him --

obviously told him that it is

0:34:170:34:21

important to the British side.

I

think you are at salute the right,

0:34:210:34:25

that. If you think about what

Britain is about to embark on, it is

0:34:250:34:31

and extraction from the European

Union. The last thing that Theresa

0:34:310:34:35

May wants is frankly a war on two

fronts on trade, a battle with the

0:34:350:34:39

Americans on trade, and also this

divorce from the European Union in,

0:34:390:34:43

leaving the single market, and

leaving the customs union. Many

0:34:430:34:49

people forget that America is the

second-largest destination for UK

0:34:490:34:54

exports, behind the whole of the EU,

so there is already a big and

0:34:540:34:59

important relationship between the

two Mac countries, but of course, as

0:34:590:35:02

you suggest, the proportion of

exports from Britain going to

0:35:020:35:06

America is far larger than the

proportion of experts from America

0:35:060:35:09

back to Britain. So, yes, more

important from Britain and for

0:35:090:35:13

America, but, I think there was a

some genuine warm words, here. But

0:35:130:35:21

one word to not mean a free-trade

eel. What will be substance like I?

0:35:210:35:26

We won't know that for many years.

He has been to Germany, Italy, and

0:35:260:35:34

France and the Middle East, he still

has not been here. The manual macro

0:35:340:35:41

-- Emmanuel Macron makes the first

visit.

A bit like our relationship,

0:35:410:35:51

right, Christian, it doesn't look

very special... OK, let's move on.

0:35:510:35:58

Is work! It worked!

It does. And

come and visit one day.

0:35:580:36:14

I have been getting reaction to this

comment from a member of the US

0:36:180:36:22

administration.

We have every reason

to think that the Turks will think

0:36:220:36:29

through their long-term relationship

with the unit rates, and will take

0:36:290:36:32

that into consideration. That they

will de-escalates tensions.

So,

0:36:320:36:38

would likely tag at this point to

pull back from the actions that they

0:36:380:36:42

are taking against the Kurds.

We

would like that.

The talking to them

0:36:420:36:49

about integrals Machan we are. But

what is the response was Magellan

0:36:490:36:52

Mac I will let them handle that.

Talk about counterterrorism efforts.

0:36:520:37:05

The focus is now on rebuilding the

US military, does that mean that

0:37:050:37:09

from a military perspective, the US

is thinking that the war against

0:37:090:37:13

Isis is over, and that there is a

lead of -- less of a focus on

0:37:130:37:17

America. Tenner we have got to be a

just and recalibrate based on the

0:37:170:37:21

start of the enemy, and there is no

question that Isis has been

0:37:210:37:26

decimated. What we can't do, is take

our eye off remaining forces. There

0:37:260:37:31

has an Isis hasn't, and in Al-Qaeda

presence.

We have seen a pattern in

0:37:310:37:39

the past where Al-Qaeda have been

defeated only to re-merge. Defeat

0:37:390:37:45

and long-term defeat are different.

People get a little too excited

0:37:450:37:50

about the reduction in control to

physical light and space. At the

0:37:500:37:53

moment, we have a large Isis

presents across the globe, but in

0:37:530:37:59

Syria, we have to make sure that we

defeat them completely.

The White

0:37:590:38:06

House's representative speaking to

me earlier. I spoke to her about the

0:38:060:38:16

conflict, there, and about Europe's

reliance on America, and how it is

0:38:160:38:19

changing.

So, we have to keep in

mind that this escalation hast to

0:38:190:38:30

stop.

Are you asking the Turkish

Government to de-escalates?

0:38:300:38:38

Everybody is asking them. Even if

security Council, this is correct,

0:38:380:38:41

because there is no military

solution at the permanent conflict,

0:38:410:38:45

over there. This brings to be me

larger question of Syria. If you

0:38:450:38:49

look at different powers acting in

their interests, there is only one

0:38:490:38:56

solution, and this will be a

negotiating solution under the roof

0:38:560:39:01

of the United Nations, because we

have so many interests in the

0:39:010:39:06

region, and none of them will be

able to bring peace to that area.

0:39:060:39:12

The arms we were talking about have

been delivered jointly as 2006 to

0:39:120:39:19

2013, so this is way back. But,...

We have a very clear regime in

0:39:190:39:27

Germany. This is a decision of the

whole Government, that has to be

0:39:270:39:31

discussed.

Presidents Donald Trump

is in Davos. Do you agree with

0:39:310:39:42

Angela Merkel that the moment has

come where Europe can no longer rely

0:39:420:39:47

on the American security umbrella in

the way that it has done since the

0:39:470:39:50

end of the Second World War?

First

of all, the friendship between

0:39:500:39:57

Europe and the United States has a

very strong foundation, and we will

0:39:570:40:01

never forget that. So, there are

zillions of brilliant relationships

0:40:010:40:07

between Americans and Europeans.

I

am feeling a but coming on.

Not a

0:40:070:40:15

bad, but we as -- as lean as

Europeans, we have to take it on. Be

0:40:150:40:25

it in Ukraine or the middle east, we

have got to be able to solve them,

0:40:250:40:30

because nobody else. Then for us.

The German defence minister, there.

0:40:300:40:36

It is interesting when you talk

about the tensions that thereafter

0:40:360:40:39

at the moment with a key Nato ally

like Turkey, just how brittle some

0:40:390:40:44

of these relationships are,

particularly around the Middle East,

0:40:440:40:46

at the moment. You talk about the

Palestinians, a spat with the Turks,

0:40:460:40:50

and we all know what is going on

with the Iranians nuclear situation.

0:40:500:41:00

She was trying to put a positive

spin on the idea that America might

0:41:000:41:04

be retreating from something good in

those bats, and this compensated

0:41:040:41:08

world that we are living in, the

Middle East just to name one of

0:41:080:41:11

those areas, and what she was tied

to say, is that we don't really like

0:41:110:41:15

America first, but it has had the

upside of forcing us to address our

0:41:150:41:20

own security issues, and how we are

going to deal with these things.

0:41:200:41:23

Maybe it is forcing Europe's and

European countries to set up to be

0:41:230:41:27

paid a bit more, and not rely on

America the way that they have done

0:41:270:41:31

the last few years.

They echoed in

polite terms that they are part

0:41:310:41:41

depended on the United States. Much

more positive, but the same message.

0:41:410:41:47

I would like to choose an thing

rather touching that has happened in

0:41:470:41:50

British politics, today, Katty.

Baroness Tessa Jowell has been given

0:41:500:42:00

a standing ovation after delivering

a emotional speech about new cancer

0:42:000:42:06

treatments. She was diagnosed with a

severe form of brain cancer last

0:42:060:42:11

May.

I hope that this debate will

give hope to other cancer patients,

0:42:110:42:17

like me so that we can live well

together with cancer, not just die

0:42:170:42:25

of it. All of us, for longer. Thank

you.

0:42:250:42:34

APPLAUSE

0:42:340:42:44

It is something that many people

have not wanted to talk about all

0:42:500:42:53

show, do you think that Tessa Jowell

standing up like that lifts the veil

0:42:530:42:58

of secrecy on the treatment?

It is

interesting you say that. The

0:42:580:43:04

testimony from cancer sufferers

should be enough for MPs to know

0:43:040:43:06

what is needed in the NHS, but at

the moment, they have two very

0:43:060:43:10

prominent figures in politics, Nick

Bowles, the Conservative MP who has

0:43:100:43:15

had a real problem with cancer, and

he spoke very candidly about the

0:43:150:43:18

extra money that is needed in the

NHS, and many have had this, today

0:43:180:43:22

from Tessa Jowell, who of course is

a very big figure in the labour

0:43:220:43:26

movement. So, it is interesting. It

shouldn't need to be politician

0:43:260:43:30

sitting in the house suffering from

cancer that puts this in such terms,

0:43:300:43:35

it should be enough to get it from

ordinary patients,, but of course it

0:43:350:43:39

does help the argument with the

debate when they are sitting among

0:43:390:43:42

them.

And good for her, a brave

thing to do.

0:43:420:43:54

The idea is that a new network will

be set up, including restaurants,

0:44:120:44:16

shops and businesses, where you can

fill up your water bottle, rather

0:44:160:44:20

than buying a new one. Water UK, who

are behind the idea, say that this

0:44:200:44:25

could end disposable plastic --

people dispose of Artic bottles by

0:44:250:44:31

tens of millions year.

0:44:310:44:41

For this to really work it needs

to be on every high street,

0:44:580:45:01

in every shop and cafe.

0:45:010:45:11

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The BBC has been hearing details

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about how Saudi Arabia's

anti-corruption drive is being

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conducted. It began last November,

with the rounding up and attention

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of dozens of citizens, including

number is the Saudi royal family.

A

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Canadian -based business Murnan has

been talking to Newsnight's Mark

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Irving.

Earlier in November, dozens

of Saudi Arabia's richest men,

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including Ambers of the raw family

were swept up and detained in

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Riyadh, Ritz-Carlton hotel. It has

been called an anti-corruption

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drive, but inmates were being

tortured and were required to sign

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of their fortunes in order to be

released. Those facing ... With

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state in EuroDisney and high profile

companies makes him Saudi Arabia's

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richest businessman. But, his wealth

have also made him a rival to the

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Crown Prince and architect of the

anti-corruption drive. On Monday,

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the Arab digests website reported

that Canadian -based businessman,

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Alan Bender, seen here to the right

had been flown to the kingdom, as it

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but a case. Mr Bender was taken to a

site near the hotel. BBC Newsnight

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managed to locate Mr Bender in

Toronto, he was able to confirm his

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trip in December,...

He was brought

in through the teleconference, and

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he was sat down. We were looking at

each other, face-to-face.

Did he

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look as if he was in some way being

ill treated, or was he just shocked

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to see you?

I would say, he looked,

he didn't look comfortable. He was

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unshaven. He didn't look in his best

condition. At all. He looked tired,

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a lot of twitching during the

conversation, whilst I was reading

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the script out to him.

The Saudi

authorities had prepared a script of

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allegations for Mr Bender to read

out to him via video teleconference

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link.

I would say that my presence

was... Details that they needed to

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confront him, because I am probably

be any person who was involved in

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personal and direct negotiations

with him. Related to a very personal

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matter.

Those very personal matters

related to his separation from a

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former long-time partner, who Mr

Bender represented in settlement

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negotiations. The Saudi authorities,

it seems, want to use this to

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pressure him to sign over his

foreign wealth.

These two know each

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other very well, and the Saudis flew

in Alan Bender, and other bold

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business -- old business adversaries

of him, to try and put pressure on

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him, and try and crack him, and try

and make him do what the Crown

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Prince once, and hand over his

foreign assets, and make video taped

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confessions to all of his guilt, and

swear allegiance.

The Saudis have

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announced that the hotel will soon

resume its normal role, but there is

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evidence to think that they might

have been transferred to the

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attention elsewhere, even in

December.

It looked more like

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something related to a jail cell.

Even the sounds of the doors sliding

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back and forth. It did not look like

he was...

Alan Bender's account is a

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singular one. The Saudi authorities

have not yet responded to our

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request for comment. But, it gives a

good idea of the length that the

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kingdom's rulings were able to go to

humble a successful businessman.

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Such an interesting story. Way back

in 1975, during the renovation of a

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church in Basel in Switzerland, the

workmen made a unusual discovery.

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Basel is a historic city, and has

extensive records of their match in

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families, but on this occasion,

there was no information on who this

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money had been.

However, they

finally know who she is. And their

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results might well surprise you.

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With me is a relative of Boris

Johnson.

Anyway, you must being

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amazed. Most people only get a dusty

photograph, or a portrait.

We all

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have monies. -- mummies. But this is

a special one. I am shocked. First

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thing I knew about it was this

morning. This lady, yes of course I

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knew that I had ancestors, and I

knew I had them. We all have them,

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and I knew that I had them from

different parts of the world, but I

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did not know that I had those

ancestors on my mother's side. I

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knew that I had them on my father's

side, and my father's grandmother

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was heartless. But, this is news to

me. It is at a good story, that they

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took a sample of the DNA for her big

toe.

And they know that they -- they

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know that she had...

Apparently she

had syphilis, because she was busy

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treating the sick and poor and

wounded, and managed to catch it in

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the course of that noble work.

We

should bring in Boris' tweet. But,

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as you say, it was because she was

treating the sick. What you make of

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this Katty?

Join the club. My

grandmother was less. But, we should

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clarify that she died of mercury

poisoning, isn't that right?

She

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did. And it is the Mercury poisoning

that cause being bombing affect on

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the corpse. There it was, you feel a

little bit sorry for the lady,

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because she was dug up once in 8043,

-- 18 43. And then re-dug up in

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1975. You might have expected it,

that you were allowed to lie there

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in peace, but what will happen to

her now? Will they send her back to

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Britain? Was to be caught by the

immigration gritters? Who knows.

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Well, she is 230 years owed, and she

is looking really good, I must say.

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She marry someone from the church,

and India had a daughter who...

That

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indeed was my grandmother's name.

When we were growing up,... Anyway,

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Boris, has a middle name which is

the same name. The line goes down

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fairly strongly. They are brilliant,

these Swiss people, they have got

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she blames -- sheer brains. They

worked out that what they dug

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around, and reckons that she must

have come from one of a fairly small

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number of families, so then they did

some DNA testing, and worked up from

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the lady, that this was possibly

related to the... And bearing in

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mind that we are the only ones that

family left, they got us.

Right, you

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up there tomorrow, Katty.

Yes, I was

going to tell you more about Davos,

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but that was far too gripping. I

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