Leanne Wood The Andrew Marr Show

Plaid Cymru's Leanne Wood. This all takes place in the aftermath of

Manchester, and Wales has not been immune from jihadi 's peak pull

victims of jihadi attacks. Can I ask you what Plaid Cymru's messages to

people thinking about how to vote and the security issue in

particular, what is your message to them this morning? It makes no sense

to us for those public services that rose to the challenge and supported

so many people in Manchester, the health service, the emergency

services, the police, obviously, for those to be cut. And just's police

service has been putt and there are plans for more cut wood. It is all

for what has happened. It is awful to see how you can prevent it in the

future, but you can get people some more confidence by making there are

plans in place and emergency services are properly resourced to

deal with things. We would not need troops on the street if there were

enough police officers on the streets. That is a very good answer

about the aftermath, but what about catching people first? Plaid Cymru

have voted again and again against a surveillance, surveillance. I do on

the wrong side of this argument? We are against mass surveillance. We

are in favour of more targeted surveillance. It makes sense that if

people are under suspicion that the police need to keep an eye on them,

so we support resources for that. The idea of watching everyone and

being able to access everyone's e-mails and communications, that is

where we have a problem and where our MPs have voted consistently,

against this. This is the heart of the argument, because no one really

thinks the police are going to look at all of our e-mails, survey

everyone. They have got 23,000 suspected jihadi is in his country

and they cannot deal with them, so this fantasy there will be mass

surveillance of everyone, everyone is under threat and be watched by

the big state if we allow these laws, it is ridiculous. If you look

into surveillance, there is a very resource intensive activity. The

police need to be adequately resourced to do it. It is better

they watch the people most at risk and keep a close eye on those rather

than the entire population. There is such a thing as information overload

and it is better to concentrate resources. They never asked to look

at the entire population. They know who they need to look at and they

need the resources for that. After Manchester, people are thinking we

need to think again about security. Are you in Plaid Cymru thinking

about it again? You have to review security all the time. It is

terrible that this has happened, but it is not as alert as market is the

most serious incident since 2005, so there is something working in some

ways, but on the other hand, the person responsible for this was

brought to the attention of authorities, is there are serious

questions that need to be answered and as to why action was not taken

earlier to prevent this. We need to learn lessons from this, that is a

cliche to say, but you have to review at all times. The army and

some of the armoured police are coming off the streets quite soon.

You got a huge event in Cardiff, Champions League coming up. Do you

want to see more armed police back for that? Are you concerned about

that event? I want to see it adequately resourced, security wise,

obviously. It is going to be a big event. Many people will come to

Wales. I do not think people should be put from coming. It will be an

amazing event. I'm sure by making sure the security side is resourced

that people will have that confidence and reassurance. Thank

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