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It's 11:30, Wednesday
November the 22nd. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
In 60 minutes, Chancellor Phillip
Hammond will deliver the first | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
Autumn Budget for over 20 years. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
As we head towards life
outside the European Union, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
can Spreadsheet Phil move
beyond the numbers and tell us | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
about the shape of things to come? | 0:00:21 | 0:00:27 | |
Good morning, live from Westminster. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
Welcome to our special coverage
of this Autumn Budget of 2017. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:03 | |
The last Chancellor to deliver
a Budget as the leaves turned brown | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
was Kenneth Clarke back in 1996. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
The following year, Labour's
new Chancellor, a young chap | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
called Gordon Brown,
delivered a summer Budget | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
following his party's
landslide election victory. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
After that, Budgets took place
in the early spring and have | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
remained there ever since. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
Until today. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:30 | |
Well, just a few minutes ago,
the Chancellor emerged from Number | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
11 Downing Street with the special
red box containing | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
the Budget speech. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:43 | |
The red box goes all the way back to
Gladstone when he was Chancellor. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:54 | |
The Chancellor was accompanied
by his Treasury team, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
including Elizabeth Truss,
the Chief Secretary, | 0:01:57 | 0:01:58 | |
and his deputy in the department. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
We'll be speaking to her once
the Budget has been revealed. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
The Chancellor will have to sit
through PMQs at noon. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
He'll be on his feet by 12:30,
assuming the Speaker sticks to time. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
Stay with us as we bring
you the Budget in full, | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
expert analysis and reaction
from across the political spectrum. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:21 | |
I'm outside Parliament,
gauging reaction from leading | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
political figures and assessing how
Westminster will respond | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
to today's Budget. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
I'm in Peterborough, at a leading
manufacturer of lorry trailers. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
The Government has big plans
to promote growth in this area | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
so what will businesses in this
region | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
make of today's announcements? | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
And the Budget will have a big
impact on your personal finances. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
I'll be taking your questions on how
it affects you and your family. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
Keeping me company,
and keeping me right, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
throughout today's four-hour
special, a trio of BBC expertise | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
at its finest. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
Political editor Laura Kuenssberg,
economics editor Kamal Ahmed, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
and business editor Simon Jack. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:11 | |
As well as their on-air comments,
they'll be providing plenty | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
of thoughts on social media
as the speech unfolds. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:20 | |
If you want to join the Twitter
conversation, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
use the hashtag #Budget2017. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
You can also email us
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We'll try and put some
of your tweets and emails | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
to our experts during the programme. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:38 | |
Well, the Treasury has given
this Budget a name - | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
it's called Building
a Britain Fit for the Future. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:49 | |
It just trips off the tongue! | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
Think of it as Philip
Hammond's version of | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
the long-term economic plan. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
Remember that? | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
The Cabinet have been meeting
in Downing Street this morning | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
where the Chancellor
presented his Budget. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:06 | |
Of course, they can only
rubber-stamp it now. It is too late | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
to change anything. He told Cabinet
colleagues he would set out a vision | 0:04:10 | 0:04:15 | |
for post-Brexit Britain. That would
allow the country to grasp the | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
opportunities that leaving the EU
provides. A vision from Philip | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
Hammond. Stay tuned for that. Laura,
all budgets are political but this | 0:04:24 | 0:04:33 | |
one has a high political bar to
climb. It from what I see it is | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
meant to stabilise a shaky
government, stabilise a shaky Prime | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
Minister, but keep the Chancellor in
his job. And as much as it has a | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
high bar of what it needs to
achieve, it has a pretty low bar in | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
terms of the scale of measures we
actually expect. I think the biggest | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
thing for Philip Hammond to do today
is not dropped the ball, not mess | 0:04:53 | 0:04:58 | |
up. Yes, the government is pretty
shaky, bit wobbly, fragile | 0:04:58 | 0:05:09 | |
certainly, probably the best word of
use -- the best word to use about | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
the state of affairs. There are
people in the Tory party, sitting on | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
the benches behind him, some of them
want to see him gone. And thirdly, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
he has to try and show that he has
been able to go some way of | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
addressing the concerns among many
members of the public that meant the | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
Tories lost their majority. So a
very difficult cocktail of goals for | 0:05:26 | 0:05:31 | |
him to try and score today, but I
think today the main objective is | 0:05:31 | 0:05:36 | |
don't mess up. The last time he was
at the dispatch box he made a very | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
big mistake and then did a dramatic
screeching U-turn a week later. So | 0:05:41 | 0:05:47 | |
the Tory backbenches are nervous
about this Budget and worried if he | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
is up to it? They certainly are. One
Cabinet minister said to me last | 0:05:51 | 0:05:56 | |
week, things are very difficult. If
it is a difficult Budget things | 0:05:56 | 0:06:03 | |
could get very difficult. Talk about
understatement. The government has | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
gone from crisis to crisis in the
last few weeks, whether that was | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
over Cabinet resignations or whether
it was the ongoing drama and the | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
pretty public scrapping of what is
going on in the Brexit negotiations. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:18 | |
They have had to weather a series of
cyclones, if you like, and there is | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
a question of whether they are
holding on and a Budget to go wrong | 0:06:23 | 0:06:30 | |
could be extremely serious for them.
That said, as we have discussed on | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
many occasions, the fundamentals of
the Tory party have not really | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
changed. There is no one person who
wants to stick their hand up and | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
they move out, Theresa, my turn. I
think we should not overrate the | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
idea that somehow Philip Hammond is
auditioning today to keep his job. I | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
am not sure we are in that
territory. We will see. Kamal, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:55 | |
budgets these days are all about
borrowing and financing the | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
deficits, this government has
borrowed a tonne more money, it is | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
going to borrow more, but there are
constraints? Absolutely, Andrew. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:07 | |
Let's look at some of the economic
challenges. Let's start with the | 0:07:07 | 0:07:16 | |
all-important borrowing figures.
That is the money the government | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
used to cover the difference between
what it spends and what it raises in | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
taxes. Let's go back to March and
the Office for Budget | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
Responsibility, the official
government watchdog, and it forecast | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
for the last financial year,
borrowing would hit that big number, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:35 | |
£51.7 billion, then it would go
down. Go up a little bit this | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
financial year and then gently go
down to the end of 2022 down to | 0:07:39 | 0:07:45 | |
£16.8 billion. It looks like the
Chancellor wants to stick to that | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
target of balancing the books,
wiping out the deficit by the middle | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
of the next decade. But some good
news here for the Chancellor. Not a | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
lot of it about! The borrowing
figures are slightly more positive | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
than was expected. For the last
financial year, borrowing is | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
expected to come in at £45.7
billion. Under what they thought. If | 0:08:05 | 0:08:11 | |
that is reflected what is called the
forecast period up to 2022, that | 0:08:11 | 0:08:17 | |
means he could have a little more
wriggle room on what he can spend. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:23 | |
Said that undershoot could have an
impact in the current financial year | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
and the next one as well, but there
is another issue as well? We have | 0:08:26 | 0:08:31 | |
heard a lot about productivity. We
know our productivity growth in | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
recent years has been poor, it is a
dominant in the Western world, not | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
just Britain, but it has been
particularly bad here. But there has | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
now been talk in the run-up that
because of poor productivity growth, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:48 | |
that will impact on the deficit
reduction plans. How does that work? | 0:08:48 | 0:08:53 | |
All of the better news on borrowing,
all of that frankly over the longer | 0:08:53 | 0:08:58 | |
term could be blown out of the water
by this productivity problem. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:04 | |
Productivity is basically the way
the economy produces wealth. As you | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
say, it has been growing very slowly
since the financial crisis. That | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
matters because that hits economic
growth and that means that the | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
government simply does not receive
the tax revenues that it might have | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
expected, had the economy been
growing more rapidly. Now, the OBR | 0:09:19 | 0:09:26 | |
has suggested that it is minded to
substantially downgrade the | 0:09:26 | 0:09:31 | |
productivity forecast for the
future. If it does that, that could | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
add as much as 53 billion pounds to
the borrowing requirements of this | 0:09:35 | 0:09:41 | |
government. That would completely
screw up the deficit reduction | 0:09:41 | 0:09:48 | |
plans. Exactly. The Institute for
Fiscal Studies said last month if | 0:09:48 | 0:09:53 | |
the prospects for productivity of
very poor, that means by 2022, the | 0:09:53 | 0:09:58 | |
borrowing requirement would go up to
that big black bar on the far right | 0:09:58 | 0:10:03 | |
of that chart, £69.9 billion. That
is very gloomy. It is pretty | 0:10:03 | 0:10:11 | |
extreme? Yes, but what is important,
Andrew, it shows a small tweak on | 0:10:11 | 0:10:16 | |
that productivity number has a big | 0:10:16 | 0:10:27 | |
effect on the public finances. The
problem is, the OBR will say because | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
of productivity growth not being
that good, it will have the | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
following bad impact on the deficit.
But we're not quite clear, it is a | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
bit of a stretch to know what it is?
That is true. It has an effect on | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
people's incomes as well. There has
been some better news in the last | 0:10:39 | 0:10:45 | |
three months. Productivity is up 1%
after two quarters of decline, so | 0:10:45 | 0:10:50 | |
maybe there is a bit of sunshine. We
will see. It is a tricky one for the | 0:10:50 | 0:10:56 | |
Chancellor 's. For all chancellors,
all sorts of problems can be washed | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
away if the government grows
robustly because you get more tax | 0:11:01 | 0:11:06 | |
revenue. Our economy is growing but
not robust Lee, it would be fair to | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
say? If we go back to what the OBR
forecast last March, they said | 0:11:10 | 0:11:17 | |
growth would be a pretty respectable
2%. That would help the public | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
finances. This year, that forecast
is likely to be downgraded. The Bank | 0:11:21 | 0:11:32 | |
of England suggested in its
inflation report, that figure 16% | 0:11:32 | 0:11:37 | |
for growth, we must expect that the
OBR will follow that lead from the | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
Bank of England, will degrade
growth, and alongside the | 0:11:40 | 0:11:46 | |
downgrading productivity, that means
that these are two substantial | 0:11:46 | 0:11:52 | |
headwinds that the government wants
to hit this balancing the books | 0:11:52 | 0:11:57 | |
target by the middle of the next
decade. And the forecast on 2018 and | 0:11:57 | 0:12:03 | |
2019 growth were a bit gloomy
already, they were around the 1.6 | 0:12:03 | 0:12:09 | |
mark so it does not look like a
booming growth is his get out of | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
jail card? No, and it will be
adjusting to see what the OBR will | 0:12:13 | 0:12:18 | |
say about subsequent growth and also
what it will say about the possible | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
impact of Brexit. Of course, they
are forecasts, and although they | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
don't like me mentioning it, the OBR
has been known to be wrong in the | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
past but we will see what happens
with the new ones. Simon, unusually | 0:12:30 | 0:12:36 | |
for a Tory government, a lot of
people in the business community | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
think this is an anti-business
government. They don't like a lot of | 0:12:39 | 0:12:44 | |
the rhetoric, they don't think the
government is doing much for | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
business. So what are their
expectations for today? Businesses | 0:12:47 | 0:12:53 | |
don't like budgets. They think every
bit of tinkering by the Chancellor | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
means they have to go back and
change this. It is a lot of | 0:12:57 | 0:13:02 | |
administrative burden for them. They
have every reason to be suspicious | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
of the government. There was the
perceived attack on the | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
self-employed when they tried to
increase National Insurance. They | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
are dealing with auto enrolment for
pensions, they got a big revaluation | 0:13:12 | 0:13:18 | |
in parts of the country their
business rates so they are feeling a | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
bit dustup. And yet, the Chancellor
needs business to invest if he's | 0:13:21 | 0:13:26 | |
going to unlock the productivity
problem for the future. Businesses | 0:13:26 | 0:13:31 | |
are saying there is too much month
left at the end of the money. I like | 0:13:31 | 0:13:38 | |
that! It is very hard for us to
invest so help us to help you. They | 0:13:38 | 0:13:43 | |
are hoping there will be little
change. There are a couple of | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
measures which might come in today,
for example, business rates | 0:13:47 | 0:13:52 | |
evaluation going from RPI inflation
measure to a lower one. And then | 0:13:52 | 0:13:57 | |
bring it forward more quickly.
Things like that could help them but | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
basically they are saying, don't do
too much. The Chancellor will say in | 0:14:00 | 0:14:06 | |
2010 the corporation tax was 22% and
it is now 19% and headed down to 17. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:15 | |
They will say we are helping you
out. We have just been clearing our | 0:14:15 | 0:14:21 | |
throats here. There will be plenty
more from Laura, Kamal and Simon | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
throughout this for our special. In
a moment, we will join Jo Coburn in | 0:14:25 | 0:14:31 | |
Peterborough but first to Jane Hill
on College Green. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:38 | |
Philip Hammond's last budget back in
March. Here we are again and it is | 0:14:38 | 0:14:44 | |
November and no longer the Autumn
Statement. Another budget. How much | 0:14:44 | 0:14:49 | |
has changed since then. We have had
the election, the government had a | 0:14:49 | 0:14:55 | |
reduced majority and Britain is on
its path to get out of the EU. Let's | 0:14:55 | 0:15:01 | |
have a reminder of how much has
changed. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:10 | |
The main rate for the self employed
will increase to 10%. I have decided | 0:15:10 | 0:15:19 | |
not to proceed with the class four
measures set out in the budget. The | 0:15:19 | 0:15:24 | |
Article 50 process is under way and
in accordance with the wishes of the | 0:15:24 | 0:15:29 | |
British people the United Kingdom is
leaving the European Union. I have | 0:15:29 | 0:15:37 | |
just chaired a meeting of the
cabinet where we agreed the | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
government should call a general
election. Labour will take our | 0:15:41 | 0:15:49 | |
railways back into public ownership
and put passengers first. What is | 0:15:49 | 0:15:55 | |
Britain's deficit? Did somebody
passing a piece of paper? What is | 0:15:55 | 0:16:00 | |
our deficit. Not at all. The first
ever proper plan to pay for and | 0:16:00 | 0:16:09 | |
provide social care. Nothing has
changed. We are offering a long-term | 0:16:09 | 0:16:15 | |
solution for the sustainability of
social care for the future. What we | 0:16:15 | 0:16:20 | |
are saying is the Conservatives are
the largest party. Note they do not | 0:16:20 | 0:16:26 | |
have an overall majority at this
stage. I hope you notice that, the | 0:16:26 | 0:16:37 | |
Chancellor giving something away
free. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
LAUGHTER.
Just a reminder of what people at | 0:16:39 | 0:16:49 | |
Westminster and the country has been
living through the last few months. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
We can discuss what Philip Hammond's
task is today. Debbie Abrahams is | 0:16:52 | 0:16:59 | |
with me for Labour and Theresa
Villiers for the Conservatives. As | 0:16:59 | 0:17:04 | |
Philip Hammond left number 11
journalist called out, is this a | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
make or break budget? It is, isn't
it? It is an important budget, all | 0:17:08 | 0:17:14 | |
of them are, and Phillip faces a
difficult task, team needs to keep | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
is on the path to deal with debt but
also find investment for | 0:17:18 | 0:17:24 | |
people'spriorities. Is there scope
for that with the backdrop of | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
Brexit? He has limited headroom in
terms of money available, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:35 | |
Parliamentary majorities, but he has
headroom because of decisions he has | 0:17:35 | 0:17:40 | |
taken as Chancellor, including
adjustments to fiscal rules to | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
reflect where we are and the
emphasis, we have seen in terms of | 0:17:43 | 0:17:49 | |
investing in research, technology,
computer science, this is about | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
making it a competitive economy and
seizing opportunities not just as a | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
result of leaving the EU but in
terms of technology. We will come | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
back to some of this. What is
Labour's role today? Your party is | 0:18:01 | 0:18:08 | |
behind in the opinion polls on trust
in the economy. We should say it is | 0:18:08 | 0:18:15 | |
clear austerity over the last seven
years has failed dismally and it is | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
not just me saying that in the
Labour Party, it is the | 0:18:19 | 0:18:24 | |
International Monetary Fund, it is
economists, and others who have said | 0:18:24 | 0:18:30 | |
absolute failure. People will know
this. Let me finish, Jane. They want | 0:18:30 | 0:18:36 | |
to know what you can pay for what
you want to do. This is how we set | 0:18:36 | 0:18:42 | |
out in the general election how we
would pay for spending commitments, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
fully costed. People know that they
are... Their living standards have | 0:18:47 | 0:18:54 | |
gone down and their wages are no
more than they were in 2008. What | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
changes should Philip Hammond may?
We have five priorities, first | 0:18:58 | 0:19:05 | |
around Social Security and Universal
Credit, pause and fix it. We know | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
this will push a million more
children into poverty as a result of | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
cuts. A house-building programme. We
just have to go to Westminster to | 0:19:14 | 0:19:19 | |
see people sleeping rough and it has
doubled in the last seven years. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:26 | |
120,000 children in temporary
accommodation. We need to make sure | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
the public sector workers get a fair
deal to stop the public sector pay | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
cap which we would not would
stimulate the economy. Austerity | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
does not work. How do you respond to
that, Theresa Villiers? Do you see | 0:19:37 | 0:19:42 | |
an increase in rough slippers? The
government is determined to tackle | 0:19:42 | 0:19:49 | |
this and we want an end to rough
sleeping and we have commitments in | 0:19:49 | 0:19:54 | |
the manifesto. You have had seven
years and it has got worse. The | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
trouble with Labour's plans is they
would involve a big increase in | 0:19:57 | 0:20:05 | |
taxation for ordinary working
families. Rubbish. They would | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
involve more borrowing. Leaving
future generations to pay for our | 0:20:09 | 0:20:16 | |
debt. We need a balanced approach
that recognises we still have not | 0:20:16 | 0:20:21 | |
cleared the deficit, but we need to
deal with debts at a pace that is | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
consistent and we doing everything
to support the economy and to fund | 0:20:25 | 0:20:30 | |
public services as generously as we
can. On a political point, how vital | 0:20:30 | 0:20:37 | |
is this performance for Philip
Hammond? You are not going to be | 0:20:37 | 0:20:42 | |
best friends, you are on different
sides in the Brexit debate. Is it | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
make and break for his future? I
would not say I am on a different | 0:20:47 | 0:20:54 | |
side to the Chancellor. I worked
with him in transport and I think he | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
is talented. There is pressure on
him today and there always is on the | 0:20:58 | 0:21:03 | |
Chancellor on budget day and I wish
him well. They have not cleared the | 0:21:03 | 0:21:09 | |
deficit they promised in 2015.
Economic failure from this | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
government. The NHS is in crisis.
30,000 additional deaths according | 0:21:13 | 0:21:19 | |
to the British Medical Journal. We
will discuss it after Philip Hammond | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
has stood up at lunchtime. More
passionate debate come from here. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:29 | |
Thanks, Jane. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:35 | |
Good to see the arguments breaking
out already. That bodes well for our | 0:21:35 | 0:21:40 | |
discussions. Budgets watched closely
by businesses and Joe Cockburn is at | 0:21:40 | 0:21:51 | |
a in Peterborough. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:56 | |
I am in Peterborough, a city the
Conservatives lost to Labour in the | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
election and I am at one of the
leading manufacturers of lorry | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
trailers. It is a company that has
expanded over the past years | 0:22:03 | 0:22:10 | |
significantly. They employ around
250 people and their biggest | 0:22:10 | 0:22:15 | |
concern, something they would like
to see the Chancellor address is | 0:22:15 | 0:22:20 | |
productivity. It has been a buzzword
over the past weeks. Who better to | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
talk to the company than the
managing director, welcome. And also | 0:22:23 | 0:22:31 | |
to a local recruitment consultant. I
talked about productivity, why is it | 0:22:31 | 0:22:38 | |
important? We have invested heavily
in the last three years in | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
infrastructure, building some people
and we need it to continue. The | 0:22:43 | 0:22:48 | |
public have voted, Brexit is on us,
and we need breaks to carry out | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
investment. What measures are you
talking about? If you have money to | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
spend why not invest? We need
capital investment relief on | 0:22:56 | 0:23:02 | |
taxation and we have a great
workforce here, looking to grow with | 0:23:02 | 0:23:07 | |
us as a company grows in
Peterborough. We need signs to get | 0:23:07 | 0:23:12 | |
on with the situation we are in. One
of the greatest barometers of | 0:23:12 | 0:23:19 | |
economic performance is recruitment
and job levels. What has it been | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
like the last six months? We found
after the result of Brexit people | 0:23:23 | 0:23:30 | |
held their breath for briefly. We
had a couple of jobs that went on | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
hold but since then things have
picked up enormously and I think | 0:23:34 | 0:23:40 | |
people are moving on regardless. We
cannot hold still that long. We have | 0:23:40 | 0:23:47 | |
18 months to go. We are dealing with
entry-level and managerial positions | 0:23:47 | 0:23:53 | |
that are office-based and we find
business is good. One big issue | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
people want a addressed is cost of
living. The government talked about | 0:23:56 | 0:24:06 | |
high employment levels but are those
jobs paying enough to deal with | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
rising inflation? I think in this
area very much as across the country | 0:24:09 | 0:24:15 | |
the average pay with you comes at
2%. The cost of inflation is 3% so | 0:24:15 | 0:24:22 | |
there is a gap causing a problem. I
think a number of companies are | 0:24:22 | 0:24:30 | |
having to do interim pay reviews for
specific people to retain those | 0:24:30 | 0:24:35 | |
skills. We have an issue across the
country and in Peterborough with | 0:24:35 | 0:24:41 | |
digital and IT people because there
are not enough to go around. They | 0:24:41 | 0:24:47 | |
are not coming through. That is a
problem. What would you like to see | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
the Chancellor do? I would like to
see him make it easier for small | 0:24:51 | 0:24:56 | |
businesses. Peterborough has an
higher than average number and we | 0:24:56 | 0:25:03 | |
need those to boost the economy. We
can catch up on some of the personal | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
finance issues with our expert.
Among the trucks and lorries there | 0:25:07 | 0:25:15 | |
is so much to watch out for and we
hope you will help us with your | 0:25:15 | 0:25:20 | |
questions and comments. Stamp duty,
will there be a holiday for | 0:25:20 | 0:25:25 | |
first-time buyers? Diesel, a tax on
diesel drivers, will it go up? | 0:25:25 | 0:25:30 | |
Income tax, will there be a trimming
of tax breaks for pensioners and | 0:25:30 | 0:25:37 | |
VAT, will small businesses have to
start charging it? And tax on | 0:25:37 | 0:25:42 | |
alcohol and cigarettes has gone up
already this year, will it happen | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
again? You should send your comments
to have your say. Back to you. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:57 | |
We can now talk to James Palmer, the
Metro Mayor in this region. If there | 0:25:57 | 0:26:03 | |
was one thing you would like the
Chancellor to do what would it be? | 0:26:03 | 0:26:08 | |
We need to improve infrastructure.
Investment by government to | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
infrastructure is investing in the
next generation and creates the | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
opportunity for housing growth, none
more so in Cambridgeshire and | 0:26:15 | 0:26:20 | |
Peterborough. We have businesses
like this that want to grow and we | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
need to improve infrastructure to
make sure they can deliver and bring | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
housing forward to feed employment
growth in this county. How much | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
confidence do you have the
Chancellor will be radical enough? | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
He is under pressure to do something
dramatic, will he be able to deliver | 0:26:37 | 0:26:43 | |
within the tight constraints? The
Chancellor by the nature of position | 0:26:43 | 0:26:48 | |
is under pressure from everybody. I
believe he can forge the right path | 0:26:48 | 0:26:53 | |
and going the right direction. He
can make the right decisions. It his | 0:26:53 | 0:26:58 | |
chance to be on -- to be honest, to
make sure devolved areas like | 0:26:58 | 0:27:07 | |
Cambridgeshire and Peterborough can
get on with the job. It is about | 0:27:07 | 0:27:12 | |
people like myself also and the
position I am in creating the | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
environment where we can manage
growth it comes to our area. How | 0:27:15 | 0:27:20 | |
much a priority is the issue of pay
for public sector workers? Pay rise | 0:27:20 | 0:27:26 | |
for nurses and abuse to the NHS? It
is key, that it is not just public | 0:27:26 | 0:27:32 | |
sector workers struggling with low
pay increases. The economy is | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
strong. We know we are creating
jobs. We know we are creating jobs | 0:27:36 | 0:27:42 | |
and being in work is better than
being out of work but we know that | 0:27:42 | 0:27:47 | |
people want more money and it is not
just public sector workers, it is | 0:27:47 | 0:27:52 | |
people across the board, people in
this kind of industry. We have to be | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
fair and look after the entire
population, not just portions of it. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
That is it from us for the moment.
Obviously returned to us soon. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:10 | |
Thanks, Jo, and you can also take
advantage the BBC's range of expert | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
analysis and all the latest Budget
news on the BBC website - | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
that's bbc.co.uk/budget. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:23 | |
It's nearly midday
here at Westminster. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:29 | |
We can go back to the helicopter.
You know it is an important occasion | 0:28:29 | 0:28:34 | |
when there is a helicopter. We will
go to the House of Commons for Prime | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
Minister's Questions. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:43 | |
Will the pay cap be scrapped? It
already has been in a couple of | 0:28:43 | 0:28:48 | |
areas. I expect the Chancellor to
set out further reform particularly | 0:28:48 | 0:28:53 | |
for nurses but what I understand is
crucially there will not be extra | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
cash to go to public sector pay. If
the unions, Labour, people who are | 0:28:57 | 0:29:05 | |
going home to and from public sector
jobs thinking I have desperately | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
decided I need a pay rise, if they
think they will get it today, I | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
understand they will not. There will
be extra cash for the NHS but it is | 0:29:13 | 0:29:20 | |
not clear how much more, not as much
as the 4 billion they asked for. I | 0:29:20 | 0:29:25 | |
expect the NHS would say if the
people who decide nurses' pay, which | 0:29:25 | 0:29:31 | |
is not the NHS itself, so there
should be an increase all of that | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
extra money could be swallowed up
immediately. Not a big check for | 0:29:34 | 0:29:39 | |
public sector pay but further moves
towards say the era when it was held | 0:29:39 | 0:29:46 | |
down as a political promise, that is
gone. Jeremy Hunt said some time ago | 0:29:46 | 0:29:51 | |
in the Commons the pay cap had gone.
I understand he is at a hospital | 0:29:51 | 0:29:56 | |
somewhere today so there could be
money. We are not sure if that is | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
the case. There will be some extra
money, not sure how much. There are | 0:29:59 | 0:30:06 | |
a lot of bills in the Chancellor's
in trade. He haps to find 2 billion | 0:30:06 | 0:30:13 | |
on the U-turn on National Insurance
and the deal for Northern Ireland | 0:30:13 | 0:30:18 | |
worth one billion and 2 billion for
affordable homes, Mrs May told us, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:23 | |
public sector pay cap has to be paid
for. There have been other spending | 0:30:23 | 0:30:28 | |
commitments. I would suggest when
you add it up and look at the | 0:30:28 | 0:30:33 | |
difficulties he has with the
deficit, he will loosen his belt. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:44 | |
I have asked your question but you
have not got time to answer it! Hold | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
that thought and let's go to PMQs.
Members across the House will want | 0:30:48 | 0:30:57 | |
to join me in congratulating Sarah
Clark inherited when as Lady Usher | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
of the Black Rod. She will be the
first woman to hold this role in its | 0:31:01 | 0:31:07 | |
650 year history and we offer her
our best wishes. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:12 | |
This morning I had meetings with
ministerial colleagues and others. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
In addition to my duties, I will
have further such meetings today. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:21 | |
Mr Speaker, the BBC are currently
broadcasting Drugsland, filmed in my | 0:31:21 | 0:31:33 | |
constituency, showing the
catastrophic impact of drugs laws on | 0:31:33 | 0:31:39 | |
innocent bystanders. We'll be Prime
Minister commit to watching | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
Drugsland and Royal commission on
our drugs laws which are plainly | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
failing? I'm pleased to say that the
Home Office under my right | 0:31:46 | 0:31:51 | |
honourable friend the Home Secretary
launched the drugs strategy only a | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
matter of weeks ago. We recognise
the importance of this issue. Drugs | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
significantly affect people's lives,
and sadly we also see people driving | 0:31:59 | 0:32:04 | |
as a result of taking drugs but also
the criminal activity that takes | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
place around drugs. We take this
very seriously, that is why we have | 0:32:08 | 0:32:16 | |
launched our strategy.
Divorce and family breakdown takes | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
an emotional toll on all those
involved, but the finally dynamic | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
often overlooked is that between
grandparents and their | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
grandchildren. If access to
grandchildren is removed or blocked, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
some grandparents call this a form
of living bereavement. Will the | 0:32:29 | 0:32:34 | |
Prime Minister join me, Dame Esther
Rantzen, and thousands of | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
grandparents across the country, to
call for a change in the law to give | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
access rights to grandchildren as is
the case in France? My honourable | 0:32:41 | 0:32:46 | |
friend is absolutely right that of
course grandparents do play an | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
important role in the lives of their
grandchildren. We can all I'm sure | 0:32:49 | 0:32:54 | |
sympathise with those who suffer
anguish when they are prevented from | 0:32:54 | 0:33:00 | |
seeing their grandchildren. When
making decisions about a child's | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
future, the first consideration must
be the child's welfare. The law | 0:33:04 | 0:33:09 | |
already allows family courts to
order that a child should spend time | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
with their grandparents and I
understand my honourable friend has | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
recently seen the Minister for the
state of justice and I'm sure they | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
will consider the points carefully.
Jeremy Corbyn. Thank you, Mr | 0:33:20 | 0:33:28 | |
Speaker. I joined the Prime Minister
in congratulating the new Usher of | 0:33:28 | 0:33:33 | |
the Black Rod and I am pleased it is
a woman who has got that position at | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
last. I hope the whole house will
join me in sending solidarity | 0:33:36 | 0:33:42 | |
following the atrocious suicide
bombing which killed 50 people in | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
eastern Nigeria. We should speak
with sympathy for those who have | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
lost loved ones and the obvious
trauma they are all going through. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:55 | |
Mr Speaker, the Irish Prime Minister
who has discussed Brexit with the | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
British government says sometimes it
doesn't seem like they have thought | 0:33:59 | 0:34:04 | |
all this through. So can the Prime
Minister reassure him by plainly | 0:34:04 | 0:34:09 | |
outlining the Government policy on
the Irish border? First of all, I am | 0:34:09 | 0:34:17 | |
glad the right honourable gentleman
has welcomed the new Lady Usher of | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
the Black Rod. I hope it will not
take 650 years before the Labour | 0:34:19 | 0:34:24 | |
Party has a female leader. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:35 | |
On the second issue... On the second
issue that he raised, he referred to | 0:34:39 | 0:34:46 | |
the issue of the attack that had
taken place in eastern Nigeria, and | 0:34:46 | 0:34:51 | |
of course I'm sure the thoughts and
condolences of the whole House will | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
be with those affected by it. He
also asked me to outline our policy | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
between the border of an end and the
Republic of Ireland. I'm very happy | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
to do so. We have done so on a
number of occasions. We are very | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
clear first of all in relation to
the movement of people, the Common | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
travel area will continue to operate
as it has done since 1923, and on | 0:35:11 | 0:35:16 | |
trade and movement of goods and
services across-the-board, we will | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
not see a hard border being
introduced. We have been very clear. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:27 | |
Jeremy Corbyn. Mr Speaker,
yesterday, the Foreign Secretary | 0:35:27 | 0:35:31 | |
said there can be no border, that
will be unthinkable. Maybe, but they | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
have had 17 months to come up with
an answer to this question, and | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
there is still no answered the
question because they have not | 0:35:39 | 0:35:44 | |
engaged with the negotiations
properly. There is another person | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
who doesn't think the negotiations
are going to and that is the right | 0:35:48 | 0:35:56 | |
honourable member for Woking, who it
was an ecclesiastic campaign for | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
Brexit, but also finds time to be
the chief global strategist for | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
Charles Stanley investments. And he
recently advised clients to invest | 0:36:04 | 0:36:11 | |
elsewhere as the UK is hitting the
brakes. Does the Prime Minister take | 0:36:11 | 0:36:20 | |
advice from the member for Woking
and does she agree with him? -- | 0:36:20 | 0:36:28 | |
Wokingham. We have been engaging
fully in the negotiations in | 0:36:28 | 0:36:33 | |
relation to Northern Ireland and
other issues with the negotiations, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:38 | |
and indeed, significant progress has
been made. That is why I have said | 0:36:38 | 0:36:43 | |
we have got agreement on the
operation of the Common travel area | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
for the future. He says we have not
put any ideas about the board out, I | 0:36:47 | 0:36:52 | |
have to say to him, we published a
paper back in the summer on the | 0:36:52 | 0:36:58 | |
hospital customs arrangements which
could take place -- the possible | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
customs arrangements which could
take place. We are happy to move to | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
further discussions of the customs
and trading relationship we will | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
have not just between Northern
Ireland and the Republic, but | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
between the United Kingdom and
European Union. That does mean | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
moving on to face two and the
question for the right honourable | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
gentleman, if he thinks it is so
important, why do his MEPs vote | 0:37:20 | 0:37:25 | |
against it? Mr Speaker, the EU's
chief negotiator said this week the | 0:37:25 | 0:37:30 | |
UK financial sector will lose its
current rights to trade with Europe. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
It seems neither EU negotiators or
the Government have any idea where | 0:37:33 | 0:37:40 | |
this is going. Last week, the Brexit
secretary said he would guarantee | 0:37:40 | 0:37:46 | |
free movement for bankers post
Brexit. Are there any other groups | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
to whom the Prime Minister believes
freedom of movement should apply, | 0:37:50 | 0:37:58 | |
nurses, doctors, teachers,
scientists, agricultural workers, | 0:37:58 | 0:37:59 | |
care workers? I'm very interested
that the right honourable gentleman | 0:37:59 | 0:38:07 | |
has found that his appearances at
prime ministers questions have been | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
going so well, he has had to borrow
a question from the leader of the | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
Liberal Democrats, which he asked me
last week. Perhaps the Leader of the | 0:38:14 | 0:38:20 | |
Opposition should pay more attention
to what happens in prime ministers | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
questions. We have been absolutely
clear that we will be introducing | 0:38:24 | 0:38:30 | |
new immigration rules and as we
introduce them we will take account | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
of the needs of the British economy
in doing so. That is why the Home | 0:38:33 | 0:38:39 | |
Secretary has asked the migration
advisory committee to advise on base | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
areas where we need to pay the
killer attention to migration coming | 0:38:43 | 0:38:48 | |
into the United Kingdom. We want to
get on to deal with the question of | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
the future trading relationship, but
I am also optimistic about the | 0:38:52 | 0:38:59 | |
opportunities that will be available
to this country and about the deal | 0:38:59 | 0:39:04 | |
we can get from the negotiations we
are having. The right honourable | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
gentleman cannot even decide if he
wants to be in the customs union, | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
out of it, in the single market, out
of it. He needs to get his act | 0:39:11 | 0:39:17 | |
together. In April, the Brexit
secretary was confident the European | 0:39:17 | 0:39:22 | |
banking authority would be staying
in London. Now he can't even | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
guarantee banks having a right to
trade with Europe. Last week, the | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
Government voted down Labour's
amendments to protect workers' | 0:39:30 | 0:39:37 | |
rights. The Foreign Secretary
described employment regulation as | 0:39:37 | 0:39:43 | |
and I quote: backbreaking. And
repeatedly promised to and I quote | 0:39:43 | 0:39:48 | |
again: scrap the social chapter. Why
when she guarantee workers' rights | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
order she agree with the Foreign
Secretary on these matters? We have | 0:39:52 | 0:39:58 | |
guaranteed workers' rights. We have
introduced a bill in the House of | 0:39:58 | 0:40:05 | |
Commons to guarantee workers' rights
and the Labour Party voted against | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
it. Mr Speaker, The Record is clear,
this government voted down our | 0:40:08 | 0:40:17 | |
amendment to protect workers'
rights. The Environment Secretary | 0:40:17 | 0:40:24 | |
said he wanted a green Brexit. Yet
again, Conservative MPs voted down | 0:40:24 | 0:40:33 | |
Labour's amendments to guarantee
environmental protection. On the 5th | 0:40:33 | 0:40:38 | |
of December, Mr Speaker, the
European financial summit takes | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
place to address the issue of tax
dodging as exposed by the Paradise | 0:40:42 | 0:40:47 | |
papers. There are three proposals on
the table, to blacklist tax havens | 0:40:47 | 0:40:55 | |
like Bermuda, nude transparency
rules to tax intermediaries, and | 0:40:55 | 0:41:00 | |
mandate three country by country
reporting for profit. Will the Prime | 0:41:00 | 0:41:06 | |
Minister back these proposals, or is
she is still threatening to turn | 0:41:06 | 0:41:11 | |
Britain into a tax haven? I will
take no lectures from the Labour | 0:41:11 | 0:41:19 | |
Party on dealing with tax avoidance
and tax evasion. £160 billion more | 0:41:19 | 0:41:26 | |
taken as a result of action taken by
Conservatives in government. 75 new | 0:41:26 | 0:41:32 | |
measures to deal with tax avoidance
and tax evasion. And I am pleased to | 0:41:32 | 0:41:38 | |
say, recently, HMRC won an important
case on tax avoidance in the Supreme | 0:41:38 | 0:41:43 | |
Court, which means a further one
point £1 billion coming to the | 0:41:43 | 0:41:48 | |
United Kingdom. He may talk about
tax avoidance and tax evasion, it is | 0:41:48 | 0:41:53 | |
this government which takes action
and makes sure we collect it. Her | 0:41:53 | 0:41:58 | |
predecessor block EU wide proposals
for a public register of trust and | 0:41:58 | 0:42:03 | |
again, the Conservative MPs have
voted down Labour's amendments to | 0:42:03 | 0:42:08 | |
deal with tax avoidance. Mr Speaker,
when it comes to Brexit, this | 0:42:08 | 0:42:13 | |
government is a shambles. Order!
Order! Far too many members are | 0:42:13 | 0:42:26 | |
gesticulating on both sides of the
House in a frenetic and frankly, | 0:42:26 | 0:42:32 | |
outlandish fashion. I say to the
honourable member, he should seek to | 0:42:32 | 0:42:41 | |
imitate the Zen like calm and
statesmanship of the Father of the | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
House. Mr Jeremy Corbyn.
I have much in common with the | 0:42:44 | 0:42:55 | |
venom, Mr Speaker. -- I have much in
common with zen, Mr Speaker. | 0:42:55 | 0:43:09 | |
Mr Speaker. 17 months after the
referendum, they say there can be no | 0:43:17 | 0:43:23 | |
hard border but haven't worked out
how. They say they will protect | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
workers' rights and then vote
against it. They say they will | 0:43:27 | 0:43:32 | |
protect environmental rights and
then vote against it. They promised | 0:43:32 | 0:43:35 | |
action on tax avoidance and then
vote against it time and time again. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:42 | |
And, Mr Speaker, once again the
Foreign Secretary offers his | 0:43:42 | 0:43:46 | |
opinions, as does the Environment
Secretary saying, there is | 0:43:46 | 0:43:52 | |
insufficient energy going into these
Brexit negotiations. Their words, Mr | 0:43:52 | 0:43:57 | |
Speaker, not mine. Is it the truth
this government has no energy, no | 0:43:57 | 0:44:04 | |
agreed plan and no strategy to
deliver a good Brexit for Britain? | 0:44:04 | 0:44:10 | |
Can I say to the right honourable
gentleman, he talks about voting | 0:44:10 | 0:44:14 | |
against tax avoidance measures, it
was the Labour Party which refused | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
to allow tax avoidance measures to
go through in a bill before we | 0:44:18 | 0:44:23 | |
called the general election. So he
should look at his own record and he | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
talks about people taking different
opinions. I might remind him that on | 0:44:27 | 0:44:32 | |
Monday, and perhaps the Shadow
Chancellor would like to listen to | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
this? On Monday, when we were
putting through that important piece | 0:44:35 | 0:44:43 | |
of legislation in relation to
customs and taxation and Europe, 76 | 0:44:43 | 0:44:48 | |
Labour MPs voted in a different
lobby than his front bench. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:57 | |
The party has no clue on Brexit in
this Commons is the Labour Party. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:04 | |
Week in and week out the right
honourable gentleman comes to this | 0:45:04 | 0:45:11 | |
House and talks down our country and
is pessimistic about our future. Let | 0:45:11 | 0:45:17 | |
me tell him, I am optimistic about
our future. I am optimistic about | 0:45:17 | 0:45:25 | |
the success we can make a Brexit and
I am optimistic about the well-paid | 0:45:25 | 0:45:29 | |
jobs that will be created, I am
optimistic about homes we will | 0:45:29 | 0:45:35 | |
build, that conservatives are
building a Briton fit for the | 0:45:35 | 0:45:38 | |
future. All he offers is a blast
from the past. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:45 | |
With the Prime Minister reassure
people this Conservative government | 0:45:56 | 0:46:01 | |
is committed to maintaining the
United Kingdom's strong commitment | 0:46:01 | 0:46:05 | |
to the highest standards of animal
welfare now and post Brexit. I am | 0:46:05 | 0:46:11 | |
happy to give that commitment. We
already have some of the highest | 0:46:11 | 0:46:16 | |
animal welfare standards in the
world and as we leave the EU we | 0:46:16 | 0:46:21 | |
should enhance those standards. We
have set out proposals to introduce | 0:46:21 | 0:46:28 | |
mandatory CCTV in slaughterhouses
and increase sentences for animal | 0:46:28 | 0:46:34 | |
cruelty, ban microbeads that damage
marine life and banned the ivory | 0:46:34 | 0:46:38 | |
trade to bring an end to elephant
poaching and we recognise animals | 0:46:38 | 0:46:42 | |
are sentience beings and should be
treated accordingly. The animal | 0:46:42 | 0:46:50 | |
welfare act 2006 provides protection
for all animals capable of | 0:46:50 | 0:46:55 | |
experiencing pain or suffering under
the control of man. I reaffirmed to | 0:46:55 | 0:47:00 | |
my honourable friend we will ensure
we maintain and enhance animal | 0:47:00 | 0:47:05 | |
welfare standards when we leave the
EU. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:11 | |
Can the Prime Minister tell the
House how many jobs have been lost | 0:47:11 | 0:47:17 | |
this week with the departure of the
European medicines authority and | 0:47:17 | 0:47:23 | |
banking authority from London? We
are seeing those two agencies leave | 0:47:23 | 0:47:31 | |
the United Kingdom and go elsewhere
in the European Union that when he | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
talks about the number of jobs being
created we have seen under this | 0:47:34 | 0:47:38 | |
government 3 million jobs created.
That is a record I would have | 0:47:38 | 0:47:43 | |
thought even he would welcome.
Of course, the Prime Minister | 0:47:43 | 0:47:51 | |
refused to answer the question. Let
me tell her, so she is aware of the | 0:47:51 | 0:47:56 | |
cost of the hard Tory Brexit, losing
the EMA and EBA means losing over | 0:47:56 | 0:48:03 | |
1000 jobs and the Bank of England
have told us the city will lose | 0:48:03 | 0:48:08 | |
75,000 jobs, jobs are already gone
and jobs are going, Brexit is | 0:48:08 | 0:48:17 | |
already biting. Will the Prime
Minister recognise that exiting the | 0:48:17 | 0:48:22 | |
EU is losing jobs and centres of
excellence from the United Kingdom? | 0:48:22 | 0:48:29 | |
I recognise that those agencies are
leaving the United Kingdom but the | 0:48:29 | 0:48:34 | |
right honourable gentleman talks
about numbers of jobs lost. Since | 0:48:34 | 0:48:38 | |
the Conservatives came into
government, 3 million jobs, 3 | 0:48:38 | 0:48:47 | |
million more people in work, 3
million more people able to provide | 0:48:47 | 0:48:51 | |
an income for themselves and their
families. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:58 | |
Last year housing associations
generated 5.5 billion in cash | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
surplus which could be used to build
48,000 new homes. The accumulated | 0:49:02 | 0:49:09 | |
reserves or housing associations
come to 42 billion which would mean | 0:49:09 | 0:49:15 | |
36,500 properties a year for the
next ten years could be built. Would | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
my right honourable friend look at
ways we can make sure housing | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
associations use the money to build
the new homes people want rather | 0:49:22 | 0:49:26 | |
than having them sitting in the
bank. He raises an important point | 0:49:26 | 0:49:32 | |
and the issue of housing and
homelessness is something he has | 0:49:32 | 0:49:35 | |
been a campaigner on. This is
already the approach taken by | 0:49:35 | 0:49:42 | |
housing associations. They are
nonprofit organisations and | 0:49:42 | 0:49:48 | |
surpluses of reinvested in the
business and in 2015, investment in | 0:49:48 | 0:49:52 | |
new and existing property was more
than double the surpluses they | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
generated. I have announced an
additional 2 billion funding for | 0:49:55 | 0:50:03 | |
affordable homes including social
rent and last week housing | 0:50:03 | 0:50:07 | |
associations were reclassified to
the private sector which takes 70 | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
billion of debt off the balance
sheet which means greater certainty | 0:50:10 | 0:50:15 | |
for housing associations to get on
with the job of building more homes. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:22 | |
My thoughts are with the many
constituents who have friends and | 0:50:22 | 0:50:28 | |
family in Nigeria. The SNP has asked
140 times that the VAT paid by | 0:50:28 | 0:50:35 | |
police and Fire Services Amber
hundred and £40 million to be | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
refunded. The Chancellor said only
last month legally we would not be | 0:50:38 | 0:50:44 | |
able to recover that and the UK
Government is constrained by the | 0:50:44 | 0:50:49 | |
rules in place. Was he misleading
us? The SNP may have answered a | 0:50:49 | 0:50:56 | |
number of questions but the SNP knew
when they took the decision to | 0:50:56 | 0:51:00 | |
create a single police and fire
authority this would be the VAT | 0:51:00 | 0:51:05 | |
treatment.
Given the revised housing proposals | 0:51:05 | 0:51:15 | |
that would force unprecedented
numbers to the equivalent of a new | 0:51:15 | 0:51:22 | |
town will the Prime Minister give me
and my constituents reassurances | 0:51:22 | 0:51:27 | |
unnecessary large-scale investment
which will need to be made to boost | 0:51:27 | 0:51:32 | |
public service infrastructure that
will have to cope with up to 100,000 | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
more people? This is of course an
important point for people. We want | 0:51:35 | 0:51:45 | |
to see more homes built because I
want young people to have the | 0:51:45 | 0:51:47 | |
prospect they are going to have the
future their parents and | 0:51:47 | 0:51:51 | |
grandparents had to own their own
homes and we will go further in | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
building more homes but she is
right, as we do that we need to make | 0:51:54 | 0:51:59 | |
sure the infrastructure is in place
and we are putting in billions for | 0:51:59 | 0:52:04 | |
economic infrastructure up to 2021
including issues like transport, | 0:52:04 | 0:52:09 | |
fibre broadband, but we recognise
the importance of making sure homes | 0:52:09 | 0:52:14 | |
are supported by the right
infrastructure. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:19 | |
I am proud the last Labour
government lifted more than 1 | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
million children out of poverty.
This government seems committed to | 0:52:22 | 0:52:29 | |
doing the opposite. With the
Institute for Fiscal Studies | 0:52:29 | 0:52:34 | |
predicting an additional 1.2 million
children will be pushed into poverty | 0:52:34 | 0:52:41 | |
by 2021. That is on top of the
4,000,020 15-16. Is the Prime | 0:52:41 | 0:52:48 | |
Minister proud of her government's
record of failure on this and does | 0:52:48 | 0:52:52 | |
she think the worrying forecast is
acceptable? | 0:52:52 | 0:52:58 | |
Far from the way in which she has
portrayed the situation we have seen | 0:52:58 | 0:53:04 | |
since 2010 600,000 fewer people in
absolute poverty, a record low, | 0:53:04 | 0:53:10 | |
300,000 fewer working age adults in
absolute poverty, and 200,000 | 0:53:10 | 0:53:19 | |
children fewer in absolute poverty.
200,000 fewer children in absolute | 0:53:19 | 0:53:24 | |
poverty. We have also seen families
getting into work, 1 million fewer | 0:53:24 | 0:53:33 | |
work less households.
As the Prime Minister is aware | 0:53:33 | 0:53:47 | |
Scotland is lagging behind the rest
of the UK in terms of superfast | 0:53:47 | 0:53:52 | |
broadband roll-out and in my
constituency even further behind. A | 0:53:52 | 0:53:57 | |
huge volume of my casework... A huge
volume of my casework from one of my | 0:53:57 | 0:54:04 | |
largest towns where 20,000
constituents reside, it is hardly | 0:54:04 | 0:54:09 | |
what you would deem a remote area,
can the Prime Minister confirm the | 0:54:09 | 0:54:14 | |
next generation of funding to
support the roll-out in Scotland | 0:54:14 | 0:54:17 | |
will bypass that... For businesses
and residents in my constituency get | 0:54:17 | 0:54:37 | |
the ball band a desire? -- broadband
they desire. I am happy to confirm | 0:54:37 | 0:54:44 | |
that to my honourable friend and she
will know we are making progress in | 0:54:44 | 0:54:48 | |
Scotland but we need to go further.
So programmes such as five G will | 0:54:48 | 0:54:55 | |
allocate funding directly to local
projects based on the quality of | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
bids and my honourable friend the
minister for digital has confirmed | 0:54:58 | 0:55:03 | |
that their next generation of
technology, we will deliver it | 0:55:03 | 0:55:07 | |
directly to local authorities in
Scotland. Rather than going through | 0:55:07 | 0:55:11 | |
the Scottish Government because we
want to make sure that Scotland is | 0:55:11 | 0:55:16 | |
not left behind. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:27 | |
In 2014 and enquiry was set up to
look into a drug given to millions | 0:55:27 | 0:55:33 | |
of pregnant women in the 60s and 70s
that caused deformities and | 0:55:33 | 0:55:38 | |
documents showing a cover-up. Last
week a report was published | 0:55:38 | 0:55:43 | |
condemned by MPs in the house is
being white wash and misleading. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:47 | |
Will the Prime Minister meet the
victims and order a public inquiry | 0:55:47 | 0:55:51 | |
so justice can be done for these
people? | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
I know this is an issue number of
members have been concerned about | 0:55:54 | 0:55:59 | |
and recognise the result of the
review was not what some families | 0:55:59 | 0:56:04 | |
were hoping for. It was a
comprehensive independent review of | 0:56:04 | 0:56:09 | |
the available evidence by experts
and all the meetings of the working | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
were attended by an invited
independent expert at the request of | 0:56:12 | 0:56:20 | |
the patient group and the overall
conclusion is that the scientific | 0:56:20 | 0:56:27 | |
evidence does not support a causal
association but that does not | 0:56:27 | 0:56:31 | |
attract from the real suffering
experienced by the families and I | 0:56:31 | 0:56:35 | |
recognise these conclusions are hard
to accept. The Department of Health | 0:56:35 | 0:56:40 | |
is focused on implementing the
recommendations. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:50 | |
Does my right honourable friend
agreed the right revised offer to | 0:56:50 | 0:56:55 | |
the European Union far from throwing
money away would be worthwhile to | 0:56:55 | 0:56:59 | |
secure the future trading
relationship with our European | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
neighbours?
I say he raises an important issue | 0:57:01 | 0:57:05 | |
and I set out in my speech in
Florence the UK will honour | 0:57:05 | 0:57:10 | |
commitments we have made during our
membership. We do not want European | 0:57:10 | 0:57:14 | |
partners fearing they will receive
less or pay more. We can only | 0:57:14 | 0:57:23 | |
resolve the financial implications
of withdrawal finally as part of the | 0:57:23 | 0:57:26 | |
settlement of all issues I spoke
about in Florence but once that is | 0:57:26 | 0:57:30 | |
done in the days of Britain paying
vast sums of money to the EU every | 0:57:30 | 0:57:34 | |
year will end. Every Prime Minister
since 1946 has successfully | 0:57:34 | 0:57:42 | |
appointed a British judge to the
international Court of Justice. Why | 0:57:42 | 0:57:48 | |
has she not? Can I say to the
honourable gentleman the British | 0:57:48 | 0:57:52 | |
Prime Minister does not appoint
judges to the international Court of | 0:57:52 | 0:57:56 | |
Justice. There is a process
undertaken in the United Nations and | 0:57:56 | 0:58:01 | |
we wish all the judges who have been
appointed by votes through the UN to | 0:58:01 | 0:58:06 | |
the international Court of Justice
well. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:15 | |
My right honourable friend might be
aware in a debate last week members | 0:58:15 | 0:58:19 | |
of the Scottish National Party
declared if the Scottish Government | 0:58:19 | 0:58:22 | |
did not agree with the final Brexit
deal they would push for another | 0:58:22 | 0:58:26 | |
independence referendum. This
obsession with breaking up our | 0:58:26 | 0:58:31 | |
United Kingdom is damaging the
Scottish economy and causing | 0:58:31 | 0:58:36 | |
uncertainty. Will she Jomni in
asking the SNP to drop their | 0:58:36 | 0:58:41 | |
obsession with a second independence
referendum? -- will she join the? | 0:58:41 | 0:58:49 | |
The point raised is important.
Scotland had a referendum in 2014 | 0:58:49 | 0:58:53 | |
that was legal and fair and the
result was decisive. The people of | 0:58:53 | 0:58:58 | |
Scotland voted to remain part of the
United Kingdom. I think that the | 0:58:58 | 0:59:03 | |
election they sent a second message
they didn't want a second referendum | 0:59:03 | 0:59:06 | |
on this issue so I say to the
Scottish Government, as we prepare | 0:59:06 | 0:59:11 | |
to leave the EU, they should work
with the UK Government to get the | 0:59:11 | 0:59:16 | |
right deal for the whole of the UK,
not taking Scotland back to these | 0:59:16 | 0:59:22 | |
divisive constitutional debates of
the past and I agree the SMP should | 0:59:22 | 0:59:25 | |
take the unwanted proposal off the
table once and for all. Will the | 0:59:25 | 0:59:33 | |
Prime Minister support steel jobs in
Scunthorpe and elsewhere by | 0:59:33 | 0:59:38 | |
guaranteeing if the current
flexibility within the emissions | 0:59:38 | 0:59:40 | |
trading scheme is not retained until
2019, she will act immediately to | 0:59:40 | 0:59:47 | |
ensure British industry is not
financially penalise? The honourable | 0:59:47 | 0:59:53 | |
gentleman raises an important point
and this government has done a | 0:59:53 | 0:59:57 | |
considerable amount to support the
steel industry in the United | 0:59:57 | 1:00:01 | |
Kingdom. I was pleased to be able to
earlier in the year make a visit and | 1:00:01 | 1:00:06 | |
meet with steelworkers and talk
about the prospects for steel in the | 1:00:06 | 1:00:10 | |
UK. We will look carefully to ensure
the arrangements in place of those | 1:00:10 | 1:00:17 | |
right for the national interest and
we have supported steel in the past. | 1:00:17 | 1:00:22 | |
Can I take my right honourable
friend back to the first question | 1:00:22 | 1:00:26 | |
asked by the honourable lady for
Bristol West and apart from | 1:00:26 | 1:00:30 | |
commending the quality of the BBC
programme she referred to, on the | 1:00:30 | 1:00:36 | |
issue of Prohibition of drugs
globally can I draw her attention to | 1:00:36 | 1:00:39 | |
the fact global policy is beginning
to change and in the face of the | 1:00:39 | 1:00:45 | |
evidential failure of policies since
the 1961 UN single convention on | 1:00:45 | 1:00:51 | |
prohibition of narcotics drugs, and
will she look at the evidence that | 1:00:51 | 1:00:55 | |
will emerge in the United States and
Canada on the legalisation of | 1:00:55 | 1:01:02 | |
cannabis markets there as well as
decriminalisation in Portugal and | 1:01:02 | 1:01:04 | |
elsewhere? We are grateful. Quite
enough, we are grateful. | 1:01:04 | 1:01:15 | |
I can say to my honourable friend
that when I was Home Secretary a | 1:01:15 | 1:01:20 | |
piece of work was undertaken which
looked at the experience in a number | 1:01:20 | 1:01:25 | |
of countries and the ways they
approach this issue of drugs. I do | 1:01:25 | 1:01:30 | |
say to my right honourable friend
that I take a different opinion to | 1:01:30 | 1:01:33 | |
him in relation to drugs. I think
those who are dealing with those who | 1:01:33 | 1:01:36 | |
are affected by drugs would also do
so. I think of my constituent | 1:01:36 | 1:01:47 | |
Elizabeth Burdon Phillips who set up
Drug Fam after the suicide of her | 1:01:47 | 1:01:49 | |
son who was a drug addict. The work
she is doing because a member of the | 1:01:49 | 1:01:54 | |
family is on drugs and the
incredible damage that can do to | 1:01:54 | 1:01:59 | |
families and the individual
concerned. I'm sorry I say to my | 1:01:59 | 1:02:02 | |
honourable friend I take a different
view. I think it is right that we | 1:02:02 | 1:02:06 | |
continue to fight the war against
drugs. The honourable member for | 1:02:06 | 1:02:17 | |
Chesterfield has migrated a
considerable way from his usual | 1:02:17 | 1:02:18 | |
place but we look forward to hearing
from him. People with the most | 1:02:18 | 1:02:22 | |
serious disabilities find when they
move on to Universal Credit they are | 1:02:22 | 1:02:26 | |
£100 a week worse off, this is
because there is no severe | 1:02:26 | 1:02:31 | |
disability component in the payment.
Does the Prime Minister realise that | 1:02:31 | 1:02:36 | |
Universal Credit will continue to
shame had government, whilst it | 1:02:36 | 1:02:40 | |
pushes the most disabled into the
worst poverty? I say to the | 1:02:40 | 1:02:45 | |
honourable gentleman that we spend
over £50 billion a year on benefits | 1:02:45 | 1:02:49 | |
to support disabled people and
people with health conditions. That | 1:02:49 | 1:02:53 | |
is increased by more than £7 billion
since 2010. Spending on disability | 1:02:53 | 1:02:59 | |
benefits will be higher in every
year to 2020 than it was in 2010. | 1:02:59 | 1:03:06 | |
And as regards Universal Credit, as
I have said in this chamber before, | 1:03:06 | 1:03:10 | |
Universal Credit is a simpler, more
straightforward system. But | 1:03:10 | 1:03:16 | |
crucially, Universal Credit is
helping people get into the | 1:03:16 | 1:03:19 | |
workplace and making sure they keep
more of the money that they earn. So | 1:03:19 | 1:03:25 | |
David Amess. Will my right
honourable friend join me in | 1:03:25 | 1:03:30 | |
congratulating the Lyon Sea branch
of the British Legion, local artist | 1:03:30 | 1:03:34 | |
Beth Hooper and Mary Lister, I'm
using a lottery grant for | 1:03:34 | 1:03:39 | |
schoolchildren in Southend to make
7500 Saran poppies and display them | 1:03:39 | 1:03:46 | |
on Southend's letters? And would she
agree with me it is a further good | 1:03:46 | 1:03:51 | |
reason to make Southend-on-Sea a
city? IE congratulate the Leon C | 1:03:51 | 1:04:03 | |
branch of the British Legion and the
work they have done in | 1:04:03 | 1:04:07 | |
congratulating young people in
recognising the sacrifices made by | 1:04:07 | 1:04:15 | |
previous generations for our safety.
As for the last bit that is | 1:04:15 | 1:04:25 | |
interesting. I know he champions
Lee-On-Sea all the time and his bid | 1:04:25 | 1:04:30 | |
will be looked at carefully.
My constituent Haley Crawley is | 1:04:30 | 1:04:36 | |
having palliative care for bowel
cancer and she needs a specialist | 1:04:36 | 1:04:40 | |
drug. She waited months to hear that
her case for funding was rejected by | 1:04:40 | 1:04:44 | |
NHS England and we are now waiting
again to hear a reply for her | 1:04:44 | 1:04:49 | |
appeal. Please will be Prime
Minister right to NHS England and | 1:04:49 | 1:04:52 | |
ensured that her case is treated as
I priority. Obviously, I wear this | 1:04:52 | 1:05:00 | |
will be causing distress to Haley
while she is waiting for this appeal | 1:05:00 | 1:05:03 | |
decision to come through and I am
sure the Secretary of State for | 1:05:03 | 1:05:07 | |
Health will look carefully at the
case the honourable lady has raised. | 1:05:07 | 1:05:09 | |
We were able to bring in the Cancer
Drugs Fund which has enabled some | 1:05:09 | 1:05:13 | |
patients to get access to drugs
which otherwise would not be | 1:05:13 | 1:05:17 | |
available, but I recognise the
concern and distress that her | 1:05:17 | 1:05:20 | |
constituent will be suffering from
while she awaits for this decision. | 1:05:20 | 1:05:25 | |
The Prime Minister will be aware
that under President Mugabe, British | 1:05:25 | 1:05:31 | |
citizens living in Zimbabwe,
especially land overs, suffered | 1:05:31 | 1:05:34 | |
considerably. Can she give an
assurance to the House that as we | 1:05:34 | 1:05:38 | |
seek a new regime coming into
Zimbabwe, the British government | 1:05:38 | 1:05:42 | |
will do all it can to persuade the
new regime to treat British citizens | 1:05:42 | 1:05:47 | |
living lawfully in that country,
treat them with respect and the | 1:05:47 | 1:05:51 | |
safety and security they should have
along with all other Zimbabwean | 1:05:51 | 1:05:56 | |
citizens. My honourable friend does
raise an important point, as we see | 1:05:56 | 1:06:00 | |
this change taking place in
Zimbabwe. I have to say the | 1:06:00 | 1:06:05 | |
resignation of Robert Mugabe
provides Zimbabwe with an | 1:06:05 | 1:06:07 | |
opportunity to forge a new path,
free from the depression which has | 1:06:07 | 1:06:12 | |
characterised the past. We want to
see a democratic free secure | 1:06:12 | 1:06:16 | |
Zimbabwe, where people across
communities, and from communities | 1:06:16 | 1:06:20 | |
across Zimbabwe are able to | 1:06:20 | 1:06:31 | |
carry out their lives without fear,
without oppression and we want to | 1:06:32 | 1:06:34 | |
see that country rejoining the
international community. We have | 1:06:34 | 1:06:36 | |
obviously provided some support to
Zimbabwe in terms of UK aid, and as | 1:06:36 | 1:06:39 | |
their oldest friend, we will do
everything we can to support their | 1:06:39 | 1:06:41 | |
change into a country which is free
and democratic and free from | 1:06:41 | 1:06:47 | |
oppression from all communities.
Order. | 1:06:47 | 1:06:50 | |
STUDIO: | 1:06:50 | 1:06:53 | |
So Prime Minister's Questions
comes to an end and. | 1:06:53 | 1:06:57 | |
As is traditional at a Budget,
the Speaker makes way for the deputy | 1:06:57 | 1:07:01 | |
speaker, Lindsey Hoyle, | 1:07:01 | 1:07:07 | |
speaker, Lindsey Hoyle. | 1:07:07 | 1:07:13 | |
The Commons chamber now becomes the
committee of ways and Means, it is | 1:07:13 | 1:07:17 | |
called. That is the committee which
hears Budget and financial matters. | 1:07:17 | 1:07:26 | |
That is why Lindsey Hoyle the
Chairman of Ways and Means takes | 1:07:26 | 1:07:30 | |
over. Let's go back to the House and
I'm sure we will hear from the | 1:07:30 | 1:07:36 | |
Chancellor shortly.
I now call the Chancellor of the | 1:07:36 | 1:07:41 | |
Exchequer, the Right Honourable
Philip Hammond. | 1:07:41 | 1:07:48 | |
Mr Deputy Speaker, I report today on
an economy which continues to grow, | 1:07:48 | 1:07:52 | |
continues to create more jobs than
ever before, and continues to | 1:07:52 | 1:07:56 | |
confound those who seek to talk it
down. An economy is set on a path to | 1:07:56 | 1:08:04 | |
a new relationship with our European
neighbours and a new future outside | 1:08:04 | 1:08:11 | |
the European Union. A future that
will be full of change, full of new | 1:08:11 | 1:08:17 | |
challenges and above all, full of
new opportunities. And in this | 1:08:17 | 1:08:20 | |
Budget, we express our resolve to
look forwards, not backwards. To | 1:08:20 | 1:08:24 | |
embrace that change, to meet those
challenges head-on, and to seize | 1:08:24 | 1:08:28 | |
those for Britain. For negotiations
on a relationship with the EU are in | 1:08:28 | 1:08:37 | |
a critical phase. My right
honourable friend the Prime Minister | 1:08:37 | 1:08:40 | |
has been clear we seek a deep and
special partnership based on free | 1:08:40 | 1:08:47 | |
and frictionless trading goods,
close collaboration on security and | 1:08:47 | 1:08:49 | |
strong mutual respect and
friendship. As Chancellor, Mr Deputy | 1:08:49 | 1:08:53 | |
Speaker, I am clear that one of the
biggest boosts we can provide to | 1:08:53 | 1:08:57 | |
businesses and families, one of the
best ways to protect British jobs | 1:08:57 | 1:09:01 | |
and prosperity, as we build that new
future, is to make early progress in | 1:09:01 | 1:09:08 | |
delivering my right honourable
friend's vision. With an | 1:09:08 | 1:09:11 | |
implementation agreement that allows
businesses to plan and invest with | 1:09:11 | 1:09:14 | |
confidence. And this government will
make the pursuit of that progress is | 1:09:14 | 1:09:19 | |
a top priority in the weeks ahead.
But Mr Deputy Speaker, while we work | 1:09:19 | 1:09:26 | |
to achieve this deep and special
partnership, we are determined to | 1:09:26 | 1:09:30 | |
ensure that the country is prepared
for every possible outcome. We have | 1:09:30 | 1:09:37 | |
already invested almost £700 million
in Brexit preparations, and today, I | 1:09:37 | 1:09:43 | |
am setting aside over the next two
years, another £3 billion, and I | 1:09:43 | 1:09:49 | |
stand ready to allocate further sums
if and when needed. Mr Deputy | 1:09:49 | 1:09:55 | |
Speaker, no one should doubt our
resolve. But this Budget is about | 1:09:55 | 1:09:59 | |
much more than Brexit. The world is
on the brink of a technological | 1:09:59 | 1:10:05 | |
revolution, one that will change the
way that we work and live, and | 1:10:05 | 1:10:10 | |
transform our living standards for
generations to come. And we face a | 1:10:10 | 1:10:15 | |
choice. Either we embrace the
future, seize the opportunities that | 1:10:15 | 1:10:19 | |
lie within our grasp, and build on
Britain's great global success | 1:10:19 | 1:10:24 | |
story, or as the party opposite
advocates, rejects change and turn | 1:10:24 | 1:10:30 | |
inwards to the failed and irrelevant
dogmas of the past. Mr Deputy | 1:10:30 | 1:10:38 | |
Speaker, we have no doubt we choose
the future. We choose, we choose to | 1:10:38 | 1:10:49 | |
run towards change, not away from
it. To prepare our people to meet | 1:10:49 | 1:10:55 | |
the challenges ahead, not to hide
from them. And the prize will be | 1:10:55 | 1:11:00 | |
enormous. For the first time in
decades, Britain is genuinely at the | 1:11:00 | 1:11:05 | |
forefront of this technological
revolution. Not just in our | 1:11:05 | 1:11:10 | |
universities and research
institutes, but this time in the | 1:11:10 | 1:11:14 | |
commercial development labs of our
great companies and on factory | 1:11:14 | 1:11:18 | |
floors and business parks across
this land. But we must invest to | 1:11:18 | 1:11:23 | |
secure this bright future for
Britain, and that this Budget, that | 1:11:23 | 1:11:26 | |
is what we choose to do. But Mr
Deputy Speaker, we are listening, | 1:11:26 | 1:11:33 | |
and we understand the frustration of
families where real incomes or under | 1:11:33 | 1:11:36 | |
pressure. So at this Budget we
choose a balanced approach. Yes, | 1:11:36 | 1:11:44 | |
maintaining fiscal responsibility as
we last see our debt Peking. | 1:11:44 | 1:11:50 | |
Continuing to invest in the skills
and infrastructure that will support | 1:11:50 | 1:11:54 | |
the jobs of the future. Building the
homes that will make good on our | 1:11:54 | 1:11:59 | |
promise to the next generation. But
crucially, also helping families to | 1:11:59 | 1:12:04 | |
cope with the cost of living. Mr
Deputy Speaker, as we invest in our | 1:12:04 | 1:12:11 | |
country's future, I have a clear
vision of what that global Britain | 1:12:11 | 1:12:13 | |
looks like. A prosperous and
inclusive economy. Where everybody | 1:12:13 | 1:12:20 | |
has the opportunity to shine.
Wherever in these islands they live, | 1:12:20 | 1:12:24 | |
and whatever their background. Where
talent and hard work are rewarded. | 1:12:24 | 1:12:29 | |
Where the dream of home ownership is
a reality for all generations. A hub | 1:12:29 | 1:12:38 | |
of enterprise and innovation. A
beacon of creativity. A civilised | 1:12:38 | 1:12:42 | |
and tolerant place that cares for
the vulnerable and nurtures the | 1:12:42 | 1:12:46 | |
talented. And outward looking free
trading nation, a full good in the | 1:12:46 | 1:12:52 | |
world. That is the Britain that I
want to leave to my children, Mr | 1:12:52 | 1:13:01 | |
Deputy Speaker. A Britain we can be
proud of. A country fit for the | 1:13:01 | 1:13:06 | |
future. I know we will not build it
overnight, but in this Budget today | 1:13:06 | 1:13:11 | |
we will lay the foundations. I'm
being tempted with something a | 1:13:11 | 1:13:18 | |
little more exotic here, but I will
stick to plain water. I did take the | 1:13:18 | 1:13:29 | |
precaution... I did take the
precaution of asking my right | 1:13:29 | 1:13:36 | |
honourable friend to bring a packet
of cough sweets just in case. | 1:13:36 | 1:13:43 | |
LAUGHTER
Mr Deputy Speaker, Mr Deputy | 1:13:43 | 1:14:01 | |
Speaker... Order, order. I think it
might be a hearing aid we all need | 1:14:01 | 1:14:07 | |
if this continues. Mr Deputy
Speaker, I shall first report to the | 1:14:07 | 1:14:15 | |
House on the economic forecast of
the independent OBR. This is the bit | 1:14:15 | 1:14:21 | |
with the long economic words in it.
LAUGHTER | 1:14:21 | 1:14:29 | |
Once again, I thank Robert Chote and
his team for their hard work over | 1:14:29 | 1:14:36 | |
the last few weeks. I believe
passionately that the best way to | 1:14:36 | 1:14:40 | |
improve the lives of people across
the length and breadth of this | 1:14:40 | 1:14:43 | |
country is to help them get into
work. Mr Deputy Speaker, I am | 1:14:43 | 1:14:48 | |
acutely aware that 1.4 million
people out of work is 1.4 million to | 1:14:48 | 1:14:52 | |
many. So today... Today I welcome
the OBR forecast that there will be | 1:14:52 | 1:15:06 | |
another 600,000 people in work by
2022. And I am immensely proud of | 1:15:06 | 1:15:13 | |
this government's record in having
created over 3 million new jobs | 1:15:13 | 1:15:17 | |
since 2010. | 1:15:17 | 1:15:21 | |
A far cry from the 1.2 million job
losses the right honourable member | 1:15:21 | 1:15:28 | |
for Hayes and Harlington predicted
in 2011 but in no doubt this | 1:15:28 | 1:15:33 | |
government will continue its focus
on getting more people into work, | 1:15:33 | 1:15:36 | |
giving them security and peace of
mind of a regular wage. I want work | 1:15:36 | 1:15:41 | |
to be a good well-paid and
regrettably our productivity | 1:15:41 | 1:15:48 | |
performance continues to disappoint.
The OBR assumed at each of the last | 1:15:48 | 1:15:55 | |
16 fiscal events that productivity
growth would return to its precrisis | 1:15:55 | 1:15:59 | |
trend of about 2% per year, but it
has remained stubbornly flat. Today | 1:15:59 | 1:16:05 | |
they revised down the outlook for
productivity growth, business | 1:16:05 | 1:16:10 | |
investment and GDP growth across the
forecast period. They now expect to | 1:16:10 | 1:16:16 | |
see GDP grow 1.5% in 2017, one .4 in
2018, one .3 in 2019 and 2020, | 1:16:16 | 1:16:26 | |
before picking up to 1.5% and
finally 1.6% in 2022. With inflation | 1:16:26 | 1:16:36 | |
peaking at 3% in this quarter before
falling back to target in the next | 1:16:36 | 1:16:41 | |
year. I reaffirm the remit that the
Monetary Policy Committee and its | 1:16:41 | 1:16:49 | |
inflation target. We took over an
economy with the highest budget | 1:16:49 | 1:16:54 | |
deficit in peacetime history. Since
then, thanks to the hard work of the | 1:16:54 | 1:17:01 | |
British people, that deficit has
been shrinking. Next year, it will | 1:17:01 | 1:17:07 | |
be below 2%. Our debt is still too
high and we need to get it down. Not | 1:17:07 | 1:17:15 | |
for and ideological reason, but
because successive debt undermines | 1:17:15 | 1:17:20 | |
economic security leaving is
vulnerable to shocks. It passes the | 1:17:20 | 1:17:25 | |
burden unfairly to the next
generation. And because it simply | 1:17:25 | 1:17:30 | |
cannot be right to spend more on our
debt interest than on police and | 1:17:30 | 1:17:35 | |
Armed Forces combined. I am pleased
to tell the House OBR expects debt | 1:17:35 | 1:17:41 | |
to peak this year and then gradually
fall as a share of GDP. They turning | 1:17:41 | 1:17:46 | |
point in the recovery. Mr Deputy
Speaker, apparently, not everyone | 1:17:46 | 1:17:57 | |
shares the view that falling debt is
good news. I heard representations | 1:17:57 | 1:18:02 | |
from the party opposite suggesting
increasing the debt by £500 billion. | 1:18:02 | 1:18:08 | |
Taking us back to square one,
wasting an extra £7 billion a year | 1:18:08 | 1:18:14 | |
on debt interest. If they carry on
like that, there will be plenty of | 1:18:14 | 1:18:20 | |
others joining Kezia Dugdale saying,
I'm Labour, get me out of here. Mr | 1:18:20 | 1:18:33 | |
Deputy Speaker, I have rejected
these representations and instead I | 1:18:33 | 1:18:39 | |
reaffirm our pledge of fiscal
responsibility and our commitment to | 1:18:39 | 1:18:43 | |
the fiscal rules set out last
autumn. Now I choose to use some of | 1:18:43 | 1:18:48 | |
the headroom I established then so
that as well as reducing debt, we | 1:18:48 | 1:18:53 | |
can also invest in Britain's future,
support key public services, keep | 1:18:53 | 1:19:00 | |
taxes low and provide a little help
to families and businesses under | 1:19:00 | 1:19:04 | |
pressure. A balanced approach that
will prepare Britain for the future, | 1:19:04 | 1:19:09 | |
not seek to hide from it. Today the
OBR confirmed we are on track to | 1:19:09 | 1:19:16 | |
meet our fiscal rules, borrowing is
forecast to be 49.9 billion this | 1:19:16 | 1:19:21 | |
year, 8.4 billion lower than
forecast at the spring budget. After | 1:19:21 | 1:19:28 | |
taking account of all decisions
since the spring budget, the GDP | 1:19:28 | 1:19:32 | |
revision and measures I will
announce borrowing will fall in | 1:19:32 | 1:19:38 | |
every year of the forecast from 39.5
billion next year, to 25.6 point | 1:19:38 | 1:19:46 | |
6,000,000,020 2-23 to reach its
lowest level in 20 years. As a | 1:19:46 | 1:19:51 | |
percentage of GDP falls from 2.4% to
1.9% next year, then 1.6, 1.5, 1.3 | 1:19:51 | 1:20:00 | |
and finally 1.1% in 22-3. The OBR
forecast the structural deficit to | 1:20:00 | 1:20:08 | |
be 1.3% of GDP in 2021, giving 14.8
billion of headroom against our 2% | 1:20:08 | 1:20:16 | |
target. Debt will peak at 86.5% of
GDP this year and then fall to 86.4, | 1:20:16 | 1:20:28 | |
then 86.1, 83.1, 79.3 and 79.1 in 22
- 23, the first sustained decline in | 1:20:28 | 1:20:37 | |
debt in 17 years. Under Conservative
led governments, the hard work of | 1:20:37 | 1:20:47 | |
the British people is steadily
clearing up the mess left behind by | 1:20:47 | 1:20:51 | |
Labour. At the heart of global
Britain must be a dynamic and | 1:20:51 | 1:21:03 | |
innovative economy. On Monday, the
Prime Minister set out key elements | 1:21:03 | 1:21:08 | |
of our modern industrial strategy,
which will raise productivity and | 1:21:08 | 1:21:12 | |
wages in all parts of the country
and guarantee a brighter future we | 1:21:12 | 1:21:16 | |
have promised to the next
generation. The Business Secretary | 1:21:16 | 1:21:20 | |
will present a White Paper in the
next few days. This is not just an | 1:21:20 | 1:21:26 | |
economic plan. It is a key part of
our vision for a fairer Britain, a | 1:21:26 | 1:21:32 | |
Britain where every one of our
citizens can contribute to and share | 1:21:32 | 1:21:37 | |
in the benefits of prosperity. And
the key to raising the wages of | 1:21:37 | 1:21:41 | |
British workers is raising
investment, public and we are | 1:21:41 | 1:21:47 | |
investing in Britain's future, half
£1 trillion since 2010, the biggest | 1:21:47 | 1:21:53 | |
rail programme since Victorian
times, the largest road-building | 1:21:53 | 1:21:57 | |
programme since the 1970s, the
biggest increase in science and | 1:21:57 | 1:22:02 | |
innovation funding in four decades
and the two largest infrastructure | 1:22:02 | 1:22:07 | |
projects in Europe, Crossrail and
HS2. When I took this job I | 1:22:07 | 1:22:12 | |
committed to make the battle to
raise Britain's productivity and the | 1:22:12 | 1:22:16 | |
nation's pay the central mission of
the Treasury. Last autumn, I | 1:22:16 | 1:22:23 | |
launched the national productivity
investment funds to provide an | 1:22:23 | 1:22:29 | |
additional £23 billion of investment
over five years, to upgrade the | 1:22:29 | 1:22:32 | |
economic infrastructure for the 21st
century. Today I announce I will | 1:22:32 | 1:22:36 | |
extend the fund a further year and
expand it to over £31 billion. | 1:22:36 | 1:22:45 | |
Meaning that public investment under
this government will on average be | 1:22:45 | 1:22:51 | |
£25 billion per year higher in real
terms than under the last Labour | 1:22:51 | 1:22:55 | |
government. We are allocating a
further £2.3 billion for investment | 1:22:55 | 1:23:03 | |
in R&B and will increase the main
RND tax credit to 12% -- R&D. To | 1:23:03 | 1:23:14 | |
drive up investment across the
economy to 2.4% of GDP. Britain is | 1:23:14 | 1:23:22 | |
the world's sixth-largest economy.
London is the number one | 1:23:22 | 1:23:26 | |
international financial services
sector and we have some of the | 1:23:26 | 1:23:30 | |
world's Best companies and a
commanding position in a raft of | 1:23:30 | 1:23:33 | |
tech and digital industries that
will form the backbone of the global | 1:23:33 | 1:23:38 | |
economy. Those who under estimate
Britain do so at their peril. | 1:23:38 | 1:23:44 | |
Because we will harness this
potential and turn it into the | 1:23:44 | 1:23:49 | |
high-paid, high productivity jobs of
tomorrow. Others may choose to | 1:23:49 | 1:23:53 | |
reject the future, we choose to
embrace it. A new tech business is | 1:23:53 | 1:23:59 | |
founded in Britain every hour. I
want that to be every half-hour. | 1:23:59 | 1:24:08 | |
Today, we invest over £500 million
in a range of initiatives from | 1:24:08 | 1:24:11 | |
artificial intelligence to five G
and four fibre broadband and support | 1:24:11 | 1:24:16 | |
regulation with the new Pioneer fund
and a new geospatial data commission | 1:24:16 | 1:24:19 | |
to develop... You should listen. To
develop a strategy for using the | 1:24:19 | 1:24:28 | |
government location data to support
economic growth and to help tech | 1:24:28 | 1:24:33 | |
start-ups reach scale we asked for a
review of availability of capital. | 1:24:33 | 1:24:39 | |
Today we are publishing an action
plan to unlock over £20 billion of | 1:24:39 | 1:24:44 | |
new investment in UK knowledge
intensive scale up businesses | 1:24:44 | 1:24:49 | |
including through a new fund in the
British business bank seeded with | 1:24:49 | 1:24:53 | |
£2.5 billion of public money by
facilitating pension-fund access to | 1:24:53 | 1:24:59 | |
long-term investment sum by doubling
investments limits for knowledge | 1:24:59 | 1:25:06 | |
intensive companies while ensuring
EI S is not used as a shelter for | 1:25:06 | 1:25:11 | |
low risk capital preservation
schemes. We stand ready to step in | 1:25:11 | 1:25:15 | |
to replace European investment fund
lending is necessary. There is | 1:25:15 | 1:25:21 | |
perhaps no technology as symbolic of
the Revolution gathering pace as | 1:25:21 | 1:25:26 | |
driverless vehicles. | 1:25:26 | 1:25:29 | |
They surely do not want me to make
the joke about the Labour Party | 1:25:38 | 1:25:43 | |
again, Mr Deputy Speaker? I know
Jeremy Clarkson does not like them | 1:25:43 | 1:25:47 | |
but there are many other good
reasons to pursue this technology. | 1:25:47 | 1:25:52 | |
Today, we step up support for it.
I'm sorry, Jeremy, definitely not | 1:25:52 | 1:25:58 | |
the first time you have been snubbed
by Hammond and May. Allah future | 1:25:58 | 1:26:07 | |
-- our future vehicles will be
driverless but there they will be | 1:26:12 | 1:26:19 | |
electric first and that is a change
that needs to come as soon as | 1:26:19 | 1:26:23 | |
possible for the planet. We will
establish a £400 million structure | 1:26:23 | 1:26:28 | |
fund and invest an extra hundred
million per plug-in car Grant and | 1:26:28 | 1:26:32 | |
more for R&D. I will clarify the law
so that people who charge electric | 1:26:32 | 1:26:39 | |
vehicles at work will not face a
benefit in kind charge from next | 1:26:39 | 1:26:43 | |
year. The tax system can play an
important role in protecting our | 1:26:43 | 1:26:49 | |
environment. We owe it to our
children the air they breathe is | 1:26:49 | 1:26:53 | |
clean and we published the air
quality plan this year and said then | 1:26:53 | 1:26:57 | |
we would fund it through taxes on
new diesel cars. From April 2018, | 1:26:57 | 1:27:05 | |
the first year rate for diesel cars
that do not meet the latest | 1:27:05 | 1:27:07 | |
standards will go up by £1 and the
existing supplement in company car | 1:27:07 | 1:27:15 | |
tax will increase by one percentage
point and drivers buying a new car | 1:27:15 | 1:27:18 | |
will avoid this charge as soon as
manufacturers bring forward the next | 1:27:18 | 1:27:24 | |
generation of cleaner diesels. We
only apply this measure to cars. | 1:27:24 | 1:27:28 | |
Before the headline writers start to
limber up, let me be clear. No white | 1:27:28 | 1:27:35 | |
van man or woman will be hit by
these measures. This levy will fund | 1:27:35 | 1:27:48 | |
a new £220 million cleaner fund to
provide support for the | 1:27:48 | 1:27:52 | |
implementation of local air quality
plans, improving the quality of air | 1:27:52 | 1:27:57 | |
in cities and towns in the UK. Our
air quality is sadly not our only | 1:27:57 | 1:28:04 | |
environmental challenge. Audiences
in the country glued to Blue Planet | 1:28:04 | 1:28:11 | |
have been reminded of the problems
of plastics pollution. The UK lead | 1:28:11 | 1:28:15 | |
the world on climate change
agreements and pioneers protecting | 1:28:15 | 1:28:19 | |
marine environment and I want us to
be a world leader in tackling the | 1:28:19 | 1:28:24 | |
scourge of plastic littering the
planet and oceans. With my right | 1:28:24 | 1:28:28 | |
honourable friend the Environment
Secretary I will investigate how the | 1:28:28 | 1:28:32 | |
tax system and charges on single use
plastic items can reduce waste. We | 1:28:32 | 1:28:39 | |
cannot keep our promise to the next
generation to build an economy fit | 1:28:39 | 1:28:43 | |
for the future unless we ensure our
planet has a future. Meeting the | 1:28:43 | 1:28:51 | |
challenge of change head on means
giving our people the confidence to | 1:28:51 | 1:28:56 | |
embrace it and the skills to reap
the rewards and we have a plan to do | 1:28:56 | 1:29:00 | |
so. We are delivering 3 million
apprenticeships by 2020 thanks to | 1:29:00 | 1:29:06 | |
the apprenticeship levy and I will
review the flexibility levy payers | 1:29:06 | 1:29:10 | |
have to spend this. We are
introducing T levels and I am | 1:29:10 | 1:29:17 | |
providing £20 million to support
colleges to prepare for them. | 1:29:17 | 1:29:22 | |
Knowledge of maths is key to the
high-tech, cutting edge jobs in our | 1:29:22 | 1:29:28 | |
digital economy. It is useful in
less glamorous roles like front line | 1:29:28 | 1:29:31 | |
politics! We will expand the
teaching for mastery of maths | 1:29:31 | 1:29:39 | |
programme to further 3000 schools
and provide 40 million to train | 1:29:39 | 1:29:45 | |
maths teachers and introduce a £600
maths premium for schools for every | 1:29:45 | 1:29:50 | |
additional people who takes a level
maths and invite proposals for new | 1:29:50 | 1:29:59 | |
maths schools across England so
highly talented young mathematicians | 1:29:59 | 1:30:03 | |
can release their potential wherever
they live and what ever their | 1:30:03 | 1:30:06 | |
background. | 1:30:06 | 1:30:12 | |
More maths for everyone. Don't let
anyone say I don't know how to show | 1:30:12 | 1:30:16 | |
the nation a good time!
Computer science is also at the | 1:30:16 | 1:30:27 | |
heart of this revolution. So we will
ensure every secondary school pupil | 1:30:27 | 1:30:33 | |
can study computing by tripling the
number of trained computer science | 1:30:33 | 1:30:38 | |
teachers to 12,000. And we will work
with industry to create a new | 1:30:38 | 1:30:44 | |
national centre for computing. But
Mr Deputy Speaker, rapid | 1:30:44 | 1:30:47 | |
technological change means we also
need to help people we train during | 1:30:47 | 1:30:52 | |
their working lives, ensuring our
workforce is equipped with the | 1:30:52 | 1:30:55 | |
skills they need for the workplace
of the future. Today, my right | 1:30:55 | 1:31:01 | |
honourable friend the Education
Secretary and I are launching an | 1:31:01 | 1:31:04 | |
historic partnership between
government, the CBI and the TUC to | 1:31:04 | 1:31:09 | |
set the strategic direction for a
national retraining scheme. Its | 1:31:09 | 1:31:13 | |
first priority will be to boost
digital skills and support expansion | 1:31:13 | 1:31:17 | |
of the construction centre. To make
a start immediately, we will invest | 1:31:17 | 1:31:22 | |
£30 million in the development of
digital skills distance learning | 1:31:22 | 1:31:26 | |
courses, so people can learn
wherever they are and whenever they | 1:31:26 | 1:31:29 | |
want. I'm pleased to be able to
accept the representation that I | 1:31:29 | 1:31:33 | |
have | 1:31:33 | 1:31:43 | |
received from the TUC, to continue
to fund union learn which I | 1:31:45 | 1:31:48 | |
recognise as a valuable part of our
support to workplace learning. Mr | 1:31:48 | 1:31:54 | |
Deputy Speaker, I got an e-mail from
Len asking me especially, backing | 1:31:54 | 1:32:05 | |
skills is key to unlocking growth
nationally, but far too much of our | 1:32:05 | 1:32:09 | |
economic strength is concentrated in
our capital city. If we are truly to | 1:32:09 | 1:32:13 | |
build an economy that is fit for the
future, then we have to get all | 1:32:13 | 1:32:17 | |
parts of the UK firing on all
cylinders, and that is what our | 1:32:17 | 1:32:22 | |
modern industrial strategy is all
about. Today, we back the Northern | 1:32:22 | 1:32:28 | |
Powerhouse, the Midlands engine and
elected mayors across the UK. We | 1:32:28 | 1:32:31 | |
back them with a new 1.7 £1.7
billion transforming cities fund, | 1:32:31 | 1:32:39 | |
half of it to be shared with the six
areas with Metro mayors, to give | 1:32:39 | 1:32:43 | |
them power to deal with transport
priorities, and the remainder will | 1:32:43 | 1:32:47 | |
be opened to competition in other
cities in England. We are investing | 1:32:47 | 1:32:54 | |
£300 million to assure HS2
infrastructure will incorporate | 1:32:54 | 1:32:57 | |
Northern Powerhouse and Midland
engine improvements. I am also | 1:32:57 | 1:33:04 | |
providing money to trial digital
solutions on the trans-Pennine | 1:33:04 | 1:33:09 | |
route. We are developing a punch
with Manchester and I'm pleased to | 1:33:09 | 1:33:20 | |
announce a second devolution deal
with Andy Street and we will find | 1:33:20 | 1:33:26 | |
the replacement of the 40 old
rolling stock on the Tyne at where | 1:33:26 | 1:33:30 | |
Metro and a total investment of 337
million pounds. We will invest £123 | 1:33:30 | 1:33:36 | |
million in the Redcar steel
steelwork sites to support the work | 1:33:36 | 1:33:49 | |
of those leading the fight for
prosperity in that area. Mr Deputy | 1:33:49 | 1:33:57 | |
Speaker, we are piloting 100%
business rates retention in London | 1:33:57 | 1:34:01 | |
next year, and continuing to work
with TFL on the funding and | 1:34:01 | 1:34:06 | |
financing of Crossrail two. We will
also make over £1 billion of | 1:34:06 | 1:34:12 | |
discounted lending available to
local authorities across the country | 1:34:12 | 1:34:16 | |
to support high-value infrastructure
projects. A Conservative government | 1:34:16 | 1:34:20 | |
giving power back to the people of
Britain, and driving prosperity and | 1:34:20 | 1:34:27 | |
greater fairness across our United
Kingdom. | 1:34:27 | 1:34:30 | |
The decisions taken in this Budget
also mean £2 billion more for the | 1:34:30 | 1:34:35 | |
Scottish Government, £1.2 billion
more for the Welsh Government, and | 1:34:35 | 1:34:44 | |
156 mg more for the Northern Ireland
Executive. I can confirm today | 1:34:44 | 1:34:49 | |
progress is being made on the city
's deal for Terry and Stirling. I'm | 1:34:49 | 1:34:55 | |
getting used to the experience of
having my ear bent by 13 | 1:34:55 | 1:35:02 | |
Conservatives Scottish colleagues.
Most recently on the issue of | 1:35:02 | 1:35:09 | |
Scottish police and fire VAT. The
SNP knew the rules, they knew the | 1:35:09 | 1:35:17 | |
consequences of introducing these
bodies and they ploughed ahead | 1:35:17 | 1:35:19 | |
anyway. My Scottish Conservative
colleagues have persuaded me that | 1:35:19 | 1:35:30 | |
the Scottish people should not lose
out just because of the obstinacy of | 1:35:30 | 1:35:35 | |
the SNP government. So we will
legislate to allow VAT refunds from | 1:35:35 | 1:35:47 | |
April 20 18. And in response to yet
more representations from my | 1:35:47 | 1:35:52 | |
honourable Scottish friends, aided
and abetted by my honourable friend | 1:35:52 | 1:35:55 | |
for Waverley, from November 2018, we
will introduce agile is there a tax | 1:35:55 | 1:36:00 | |
history for transfers of gas in the
North Sea, an innovative tax policy | 1:36:00 | 1:36:06 | |
which will bring fresh investment to
a base on which still holds up to 20 | 1:36:06 | 1:36:10 | |
billion barrels of oil. We will
begin negotiations towards great | 1:36:10 | 1:36:17 | |
deals the North Wales and mid Wales,
and we will abolish tolls on the | 1:36:17 | 1:36:22 | |
Severn Bridge as promised by the end
of next year. We will deliver on our | 1:36:22 | 1:36:27 | |
commitment to review the effect of
VAT and APD on tourism in Northern | 1:36:27 | 1:36:32 | |
Ireland, reporting on next year's
Budget and we will open negotiations | 1:36:32 | 1:36:37 | |
for a Belfast city deal as part of
our commitment to an ambitious set | 1:36:37 | 1:36:41 | |
of city deals across Northern
Ireland. A Conservative government | 1:36:41 | 1:36:46 | |
delivering for all parts of our
United Kingdom. It is only by | 1:36:46 | 1:36:55 | |
supporting our regions and nations,
dealing with our debts and investing | 1:36:55 | 1:36:59 | |
in skills and infrastructure for the
long term, that we can build an | 1:36:59 | 1:37:03 | |
economy fit for the future. But I
recognise that many people are | 1:37:03 | 1:37:07 | |
feeling pressure on their budgets
now. And because we are all in | 1:37:07 | 1:37:11 | |
politics to make people's lives
better, in the short term as well as | 1:37:11 | 1:37:17 | |
the long-term, we will take further
measures in this Budget to help | 1:37:17 | 1:37:21 | |
families and businesses where we
can. The switch to Universal Credit | 1:37:21 | 1:37:27 | |
is a long overdue and necessary
reform. Replacing Labour's broken | 1:37:27 | 1:37:33 | |
system that discouraged people from
working more than 16 hours a week | 1:37:33 | 1:37:38 | |
and trapped 1.4 million on out of
work benefits for nearly a decade, | 1:37:38 | 1:37:43 | |
Universal Credit delivers a modern
welfare system where work always | 1:37:43 | 1:37:47 | |
pays and people are supported to
earn. But I recognise, Mr Deputy | 1:37:47 | 1:37:56 | |
Speaker, the genuine concerns on
both sides of the House at about the | 1:37:56 | 1:37:59 | |
operational delivery of this
benefit, and today we will act on | 1:37:59 | 1:38:01 | |
those concerns. First, we will
remove the seven-day waiting period | 1:38:01 | 1:38:07 | |
applied at the beginning of a
benefit claim, so that entitlement | 1:38:07 | 1:38:11 | |
to Universal Credit will start on
the day of the claim. To provide | 1:38:11 | 1:38:16 | |
greater support during the waiting
period, we will change the advance | 1:38:16 | 1:38:20 | |
the system to ensure any household
needs it can access a full month's | 1:38:20 | 1:38:24 | |
payment within five days of
applying. We will make it possible | 1:38:24 | 1:38:29 | |
to apply for an advanced online. We
will extend the repayment period for | 1:38:29 | 1:38:35 | |
advances from six months to 12
months, and any new Universal Credit | 1:38:35 | 1:38:40 | |
claimant in receipt of housing
benefit at the time of the claim | 1:38:40 | 1:38:44 | |
will continue to receive that
housing benefit for a further two | 1:38:44 | 1:38:49 | |
weeks, making it easier for them to
pay their rent. This, Mr Deputy | 1:38:49 | 1:38:55 | |
Speaker, is a £1.5 billion package
to address concerns about the | 1:38:55 | 1:38:59 | |
delivery of the benefit. My right
honourable friend the Secretary of | 1:38:59 | 1:39:07 | |
State for Work and Pensions will
give further details in a statement | 1:39:07 | 1:39:09 | |
to the House tomorrow. We also want
to help low income households in | 1:39:09 | 1:39:14 | |
areas where rents have been rising
fastest. In the long run, of course, | 1:39:14 | 1:39:19 | |
the answer lies in increasing the
amount of housing available, a theme | 1:39:19 | 1:39:24 | |
I shall return to. In the meantime,
the best way to help them is by | 1:39:24 | 1:39:28 | |
increasing the rate of support in
those areas where rents are least | 1:39:28 | 1:39:32 | |
affordable. We will increase
targeted affordability funding by | 1:39:32 | 1:39:38 | |
£125 million over the next two
years, benefiting 140,000 people. We | 1:39:38 | 1:39:44 | |
will always listen to genuine
concerns and act where we can to | 1:39:44 | 1:39:49 | |
help. Making work pay is core to the
philosophy of this government. That | 1:39:49 | 1:39:56 | |
is why we introduced the National
Living Wage in 2016. In April, it | 1:39:56 | 1:40:01 | |
will rise by 4.4%, from £7 50 an
hour, to £7 83, handing full-time | 1:40:01 | 1:40:12 | |
workers a further £600 pay increase,
taking their total pay rise since | 1:40:12 | 1:40:16 | |
its introduction to over £2000 a
year. We also accept the low pay | 1:40:16 | 1:40:23 | |
commission's recommendations on
national minimum wage rates, | 1:40:23 | 1:40:27 | |
supporting our young people with the
largest increase in youth rates in | 1:40:27 | 1:40:31 | |
ten years, delivering a pay rise for
over 2 million minimum wage workers | 1:40:31 | 1:40:40 | |
of all ages across the country. The
facts are these. Income inequality | 1:40:40 | 1:40:43 | |
today is at its lowest level in 30
years. The top 1% are paying a | 1:40:43 | 1:40:49 | |
larger share of income taxes than at
any time under the last Labour | 1:40:49 | 1:40:54 | |
government. The poorest 10% in
Britain have seen their real incomes | 1:40:54 | 1:40:59 | |
grow faster than 2010 than the
richest 10%, and the proportion of | 1:40:59 | 1:41:04 | |
full-time jobs that are low paid is
at its lowest level for 20 years. A | 1:41:04 | 1:41:12 | |
Conservative government delivering a
fairer Britain. But as well as | 1:41:12 | 1:41:19 | |
making work pay, we want families to
keep more of the money they earn. | 1:41:19 | 1:41:23 | |
When we came into office, the
personal allowance stood at £6,475 a | 1:41:23 | 1:41:29 | |
year. From April, I will increase
the personal allowance to £11,850, | 1:41:29 | 1:41:36 | |
and the higher rate threshold to
£46,350, making progress towards our | 1:41:36 | 1:41:44 | |
manifesto commitments, which I
reiterate today. The typical basic | 1:41:44 | 1:41:49 | |
rate taxpayer will be £1075 a year
better off than 2010, and a | 1:41:49 | 1:41:54 | |
full-time worker on the National
Living Wage will take home more than | 1:41:54 | 1:41:59 | |
£3800 extra. This Conservative
government delivering for Britain's | 1:41:59 | 1:42:04 | |
workers. Mr Deputy Speaker, I turn
now to duties. The tobacco duty | 1:42:04 | 1:42:14 | |
escalator will continue with an
extra 1% duty on hand-rolling duty | 1:42:14 | 1:42:21 | |
this year and minimum excise duty on
cigarettes will also rise. Excessive | 1:42:21 | 1:42:25 | |
alcohol consumption and the most
vulnerable people is all too often | 1:42:25 | 1:42:30 | |
through cheap high-strength low
quality products, especially | 1:42:30 | 1:42:34 | |
so-called white ciders. I want to
pay tribute to the campaign led by | 1:42:34 | 1:42:38 | |
my honourable friend for Congleton
on this issue, and so following our | 1:42:38 | 1:42:43 | |
recent consultation, we will
legislate to increase duty on these | 1:42:43 | 1:42:48 | |
products from 2019. But recognising
the pressure on household budgets, | 1:42:48 | 1:42:51 | |
and backing our great British pubs,
duties on other sliders, wines, | 1:42:51 | 1:42:56 | |
spirits and on beer will be frozen.
This will mean a bottle of whiskey | 1:42:56 | 1:43:07 | |
will be £1.15 less in 2018 than if
we had continued with Labour's | 1:43:07 | 1:43:12 | |
plans, and a pint of beer 12p less.
So Merry Christmas, Mr Deputy | 1:43:12 | 1:43:18 | |
Speaker. The cost of travel is also
an important factor for families and | 1:43:18 | 1:43:25 | |
businesses. From April 2019, I will
again freeze short-haul air | 1:43:25 | 1:43:30 | |
passenger duty rates, and I will
also frees long-haul economy rates, | 1:43:30 | 1:43:34 | |
paid for by an increase on premium
class tickets and on private jets. | 1:43:34 | 1:43:39 | |
Sorry, Lewis. For those who do not
stretch to a private jet, I can | 1:43:39 | 1:43:46 | |
announce a new Railcard for those
aged 26 to 30, giving 4.5 million | 1:43:46 | 1:43:52 | |
more young people a third of their
rail fares. And I will once again | 1:43:52 | 1:43:59 | |
cancel the fuel duty rise for both
petrol and diesel that is scheduled | 1:43:59 | 1:44:04 | |
for April. Since 2010, we will have
saved the average car driver £850, | 1:44:04 | 1:44:13 | |
and the average van driver over
£2100, compared to Labour's | 1:44:13 | 1:44:19 | |
escalator plans. Fuel duty has now
been frozen for the longest period | 1:44:19 | 1:44:24 | |
in 40 years, at a total cost to the
Exchequer of £46 billion, is since | 1:44:24 | 1:44:32 | |
2010. Mr Deputy Speaker, our NHS is
one of our great institutions. An | 1:44:32 | 1:44:37 | |
essential part of what we are as a
nation. And a source of pride the | 1:44:37 | 1:44:43 | |
length and breadth of the country.
Its values are the values of the | 1:44:43 | 1:44:47 | |
British people, and we will always
back it. Dedicated NHS staff are | 1:44:47 | 1:44:53 | |
handling the challenges of an ageing
population and the rapidly advancing | 1:44:53 | 1:44:58 | |
technology with skill and commitment
and we salute them. Mr Deputy | 1:44:58 | 1:45:02 | |
Speaker, although you would not
think so to listen to the Leader of | 1:45:02 | 1:45:06 | |
the Opposition, as he regularly
talks down the achievements of the | 1:45:06 | 1:45:13 | |
NHS, the number of patients being
treated is at record levels, cancer | 1:45:13 | 1:45:17 | |
survival rates are at the highest
ever level, 17 million people are | 1:45:17 | 1:45:22 | |
now able to access GP appointments
in the evenings and weekends, and | 1:45:22 | 1:45:26 | |
public satisfaction among hospital
inpatients is at its highest level | 1:45:26 | 1:45:31 | |
in more than 20 years. | 1:45:31 | 1:45:36 | |
It is central to this government's
vision everyone has access to the | 1:45:36 | 1:45:41 | |
NHS free at the point of need which
is why we endorsed and funded the | 1:45:41 | 1:45:48 | |
five-year forward view in 2014 but
even with this additional funding we | 1:45:48 | 1:45:51 | |
acknowledge the service remains
under pressure and today we respond. | 1:45:51 | 1:45:55 | |
First, we will deliver an additional
£10 billion package of capital | 1:45:55 | 1:46:01 | |
investment in front line services
over the course of this Parliament, | 1:46:01 | 1:46:06 | |
to support the sustainability and
transformation plans that will make | 1:46:06 | 1:46:12 | |
our NHS more resilient, investing
for an NHS fit for the future. We | 1:46:12 | 1:46:17 | |
also recognise that the NHS is under
pressure right now. I am therefore | 1:46:17 | 1:46:23 | |
exceptionally and outside the
spending review process making an | 1:46:23 | 1:46:26 | |
additional commitment of resource
funding of £2.8 billion to the NHS | 1:46:26 | 1:46:32 | |
in England. £350 million immediately
to allow trusts to plan for this | 1:46:32 | 1:46:39 | |
winter. 1.6 billion in 2018-19 but
the balance in 19-20, taking the | 1:46:39 | 1:46:47 | |
extra resource into the NHS next
year to £3.75 billion in total. | 1:46:47 | 1:46:57 | |
Meaning, Mr Deputy Speaker, our NHS
will receive a £7.5 billion increase | 1:46:57 | 1:47:06 | |
to its resource budget over this
year and next. Our nation's nurses | 1:47:06 | 1:47:13 | |
provide invaluable support to us all
in our time of greatest need and | 1:47:13 | 1:47:19 | |
deserve our deepest gratitude for
their tireless efforts. My right | 1:47:19 | 1:47:23 | |
honourable friend the Health
Secretary has begun discussions with | 1:47:23 | 1:47:27 | |
health unions on pay structure
modernisation for staff to improve | 1:47:27 | 1:47:34 | |
recruitment and retention. He will
submit evidence to the independent | 1:47:34 | 1:47:38 | |
pay review body in due course. I
want to assure NHS staff and | 1:47:38 | 1:47:43 | |
patients and members that if the
Health Secretary's talks bear fruit, | 1:47:43 | 1:47:48 | |
I will protect patient services by
providing additional funding for | 1:47:48 | 1:47:51 | |
such a settlement. Just as our
public services must be fit for the | 1:47:51 | 1:48:01 | |
future, so too must our tax system.
It must remain competitive to | 1:48:01 | 1:48:06 | |
attract the brightest and best to
establish and grow businesses of the | 1:48:06 | 1:48:10 | |
future. It must raise revenue we
need to fund public services and it | 1:48:10 | 1:48:15 | |
must be robust against abuse so it
is fair to all. We have heard talk | 1:48:15 | 1:48:20 | |
recently from the party opposite
about what they would do to crack | 1:48:20 | 1:48:24 | |
down on tax avoidance and evasion,
but the truth is, they did not. It | 1:48:24 | 1:48:31 | |
is this government that has clamped
down on avoidance and evasion, this | 1:48:31 | 1:48:35 | |
government has seen the tax gap cut
by a quarter to a record low and | 1:48:35 | 1:48:40 | |
this government that has raked in an
extra £160 billion over seven years | 1:48:40 | 1:48:47 | |
for our public services by
collecting taxes due so I will take | 1:48:47 | 1:48:51 | |
no lectures, but I will take action
and this budget continues the work | 1:48:51 | 1:48:59 | |
of the last seven years with a
further package of measures that is | 1:48:59 | 1:49:04 | |
forecast to raise £4.8 billion by
2022-3, doing the job Labour failed | 1:49:04 | 1:49:11 | |
to do for 13 years in office. Our
long-term phased reduction of | 1:49:11 | 1:49:20 | |
corporation tax has generated
investment and jobs and raised £20 | 1:49:20 | 1:49:24 | |
billion extra for public services.
We are committed to maintaining | 1:49:24 | 1:49:30 | |
competitive corporation tax rates
that there is a case for removing | 1:49:30 | 1:49:33 | |
the anomaly of the index allowance
for capital gains bringing the | 1:49:33 | 1:49:39 | |
corporate tax system into line with
personal capital gains tax system. I | 1:49:39 | 1:49:43 | |
will freeze this allowance so
companies receive relief for | 1:49:43 | 1:49:47 | |
inflation up to January 2018 but not
thereafter. I am grateful to the | 1:49:47 | 1:49:53 | |
office for tax simplification on
their report on VAT registration | 1:49:53 | 1:49:58 | |
threshold. At £85,000 the UK VAT
threshold is by far the highest in | 1:49:58 | 1:50:06 | |
the OECD, by contrast in Germany it
is £15,600. I note the conclusion | 1:50:06 | 1:50:13 | |
that it distorts competition and
dis- incentivise is business growth | 1:50:13 | 1:50:19 | |
and note the Federation of Small
Businesses concerns about the cliff | 1:50:19 | 1:50:23 | |
edge of the threshold but such a
high threshold has the benefit of | 1:50:23 | 1:50:28 | |
keeping the majority of small
businesses out of VAT altogether so | 1:50:28 | 1:50:33 | |
I am not minded to reduce the
threshold. I will consult on whether | 1:50:33 | 1:50:42 | |
it -- its design could better
incentivise growth and we will | 1:50:42 | 1:50:46 | |
maintain it at the current level for
the next two years. We cannot build | 1:50:46 | 1:50:51 | |
an economy fit for the future
without supporting its backbone, our | 1:50:51 | 1:50:59 | |
5.5 million small businesses, who
are responsible for nearly half our | 1:50:59 | 1:51:04 | |
private sector jobs. They give the
economy its vibrancy and resilience. | 1:51:04 | 1:51:09 | |
I recognise many are feeling under
pressure. I know that it is hard | 1:51:09 | 1:51:15 | |
work to get a business off the
ground and get it to grow, so today | 1:51:15 | 1:51:19 | |
I want to do what we can to ease
that pressure. Business rates | 1:51:19 | 1:51:25 | |
represent a high fixed cost for
small businesses. At budget 2016 we | 1:51:25 | 1:51:31 | |
introduced a package of business
rate relief worth almost £9 billion | 1:51:31 | 1:51:37 | |
with a further £435 million in the
spring budget. Today I go further. | 1:51:37 | 1:51:43 | |
We have listened to concerns about
the potential costs of the annual up | 1:51:43 | 1:51:48 | |
rating of business rates in April.
Today I will accept the | 1:51:48 | 1:51:53 | |
representation of the British
Chambers of Commerce, CBI and others | 1:51:53 | 1:51:57 | |
and bring forward the planned switch
from RPI to CPI by two years to | 1:51:57 | 1:52:05 | |
April 2018, a move that is worth
£2.3 billion to business over the | 1:52:05 | 1:52:09 | |
next five years. I have listened to
businesses affected by the so-called | 1:52:09 | 1:52:16 | |
staircase tax. We will change the
law to ensure where a businesses | 1:52:16 | 1:52:21 | |
impacted by the ruling, it can have
its original bill reinstated if it | 1:52:21 | 1:52:25 | |
chooses and backdated and I hope I
can expect cross-party backing to | 1:52:25 | 1:52:31 | |
speed that measure through
Parliament. Three simple steps to | 1:52:31 | 1:52:37 | |
solve the staircase tax. What do
they expect, it is the tax section? | 1:52:37 | 1:52:44 | |
To support the thousands of small
pubs at the heart of many | 1:52:44 | 1:52:49 | |
communities, we will extend the
£1000 discount with the rateable | 1:52:49 | 1:52:53 | |
value of less than the amount to
March 20 19. I have heard the | 1:52:53 | 1:53:03 | |
concerns about the five-year
reevaluation system and shorter | 1:53:03 | 1:53:06 | |
periods will reduce the size of
changes in valuation that I can | 1:53:06 | 1:53:10 | |
announce after the next revaluation
future revaluation will take place | 1:53:10 | 1:53:15 | |
every three years. This Conservative
government is listening to small | 1:53:15 | 1:53:18 | |
business. There is a wider concern
across this House and in the | 1:53:18 | 1:53:25 | |
business community about the tax
system in the digital age. Along | 1:53:25 | 1:53:29 | |
with innovation and growth it
brings, digitalisation poses | 1:53:29 | 1:53:35 | |
challenges for the sustainability
and fairness of our tax system but | 1:53:35 | 1:53:39 | |
this challenge can only properly be
solved on an international basis and | 1:53:39 | 1:53:43 | |
the UK is leading the charge in the
OECD and G20 to find solutions. | 1:53:43 | 1:53:49 | |
Today we publish a paper on the tax
challenge posed by the digital | 1:53:49 | 1:53:54 | |
economy, setting out emerging
thinking about potential solutions, | 1:53:54 | 1:53:58 | |
but in the meantime we will take
what action we can. Multinational | 1:53:58 | 1:54:05 | |
digital businesses pay billions in
royalties to jurisdictions where | 1:54:05 | 1:54:08 | |
they are not taxed and some of these
royalties relate to UK sales. From | 1:54:08 | 1:54:16 | |
April 2019 and in accordance with
international obligations we will | 1:54:16 | 1:54:20 | |
apply income tax to royalties
relating to UK sales when those | 1:54:20 | 1:54:24 | |
royalties are paid to a low tax
jurisdiction, even if they do not | 1:54:24 | 1:54:29 | |
fall to be taxed in the UK under
current rules. This will raise about | 1:54:29 | 1:54:36 | |
£200 million a year. It does not
solve the problem, but it sends a | 1:54:36 | 1:54:42 | |
signal of our determination and we
will continue to work in the | 1:54:42 | 1:54:46 | |
international arena to find a
sustainable and fair long-term | 1:54:46 | 1:54:50 | |
solution that properly taxes digital
businesses that operate in | 1:54:50 | 1:54:53 | |
cyberspace. Following
representations from a number of | 1:54:53 | 1:54:59 | |
honourable friends we are taking
action to address online VAT fraud | 1:54:59 | 1:55:03 | |
that costs the taxpayer £1.2 billion
per year, by making all online | 1:55:03 | 1:55:09 | |
marketplaces jointly liable with
their sellers for VAT, ensuring | 1:55:09 | 1:55:15 | |
sellers operating through them pay
the right VAT just we expect | 1:55:15 | 1:55:20 | |
retailers on the high street to do.
I want to turn to the challenge of | 1:55:20 | 1:55:26 | |
the housing market. Before I do, I
want to touch on the aftermath of | 1:55:26 | 1:55:31 | |
the appalling events at Grenfell
Tower. We have provided financial | 1:55:31 | 1:55:36 | |
support for victims of this terrible
tragedy and today I announce we will | 1:55:36 | 1:55:41 | |
provide Kensington and Chelsea
Council with a further £28 million | 1:55:41 | 1:55:47 | |
for mental health and counselling
services, the generation support and | 1:55:47 | 1:55:51 | |
to provide a new community space for
residents. This tragedy should never | 1:55:51 | 1:55:57 | |
have happened and we must ensure
nothing like it ever happens again. | 1:55:57 | 1:56:04 | |
All local authorities and housing
associations must carry out any | 1:56:04 | 1:56:09 | |
identified necessary safety work as
soon as possible. If any local | 1:56:09 | 1:56:14 | |
authority cannot access funding to
pay for essential fire safety work, | 1:56:14 | 1:56:18 | |
they should contact us immediately,
and I have said before and will | 1:56:18 | 1:56:23 | |
again today, we will not allow
financial constraints to get in the | 1:56:23 | 1:56:28 | |
way of essential fire safety work. I
want to also address the issue of | 1:56:28 | 1:56:35 | |
empty properties. It cannot be right
to leave property empty when so many | 1:56:35 | 1:56:41 | |
are desperate for a place to live.
We will legislate to give local | 1:56:41 | 1:56:46 | |
authorities the power to charge a
100% council tax premium on empty | 1:56:46 | 1:56:51 | |
properties. We will also launch a
consultation on barriers to longer | 1:56:51 | 1:56:57 | |
tenancies in the private rented
sector and how we might encourage | 1:56:57 | 1:57:00 | |
landlords to offer them to tenants
who want extra security. I want to | 1:57:00 | 1:57:05 | |
say something about rough sleeping.
It is not acceptable in 21st-century | 1:57:05 | 1:57:11 | |
Britain people are sleeping on the
streets. We will invest today £28 | 1:57:11 | 1:57:17 | |
million in three new housing first
pilots in the West Midlands, | 1:57:17 | 1:57:22 | |
Manchester and in Liverpool, and we
will establish a task force as part | 1:57:22 | 1:57:27 | |
of our commitment to halving rough
sleeping by 2022 and eliminating it | 1:57:27 | 1:57:31 | |
by 2027. I would like to thank the
many colleagues who submitted ideas | 1:57:31 | 1:57:39 | |
on how to tackle the challenge of
the housing market, including my | 1:57:39 | 1:57:44 | |
honourable friends for North East
Hampshire, Eastleigh and | 1:57:44 | 1:57:47 | |
Weston-Super-Mare in particular. By
continuing to invest in Britain's | 1:57:47 | 1:57:53 | |
infrastructure, skills and R&D, we
will ensure productivity and | 1:57:53 | 1:57:58 | |
economic growth that is the key to
delivering a stronger, fairer and | 1:57:58 | 1:58:03 | |
more balanced economy and the
assurance to the next generation of | 1:58:03 | 1:58:08 | |
their economic security, but however
successful in that endeavour, there | 1:58:08 | 1:58:11 | |
is an area where young people will
rightly feel concerned about their | 1:58:11 | 1:58:16 | |
future prospects and that is in the
housing market. House prices are | 1:58:16 | 1:58:21 | |
increasingly out of reach. It takes
too long to save for a deposit and | 1:58:21 | 1:58:26 | |
rents absorbed too high a portion of
monthly income. The number of 25-34 | 1:58:26 | 1:58:33 | |
year old is owning their own home
has dropped from 59% to 38% in 13 | 1:58:33 | 1:58:39 | |
years. Put simply, successive
governments over decades have failed | 1:58:39 | 1:58:45 | |
to build enough homes to deliver the
homeowning dream this country has | 1:58:45 | 1:58:50 | |
always been proud of, or indeed to
meet the needs of those who rent. In | 1:58:50 | 1:58:56 | |
Manchester a few weeks ago the Prime
Minister made a pledge to the | 1:58:56 | 1:59:00 | |
younger generation that she would
dedicate her premiership to fixing | 1:59:00 | 1:59:04 | |
this problem and today we take the
next steps to delivering on that | 1:59:04 | 1:59:08 | |
pledge. By choosing to build we send
a message to the next generation | 1:59:08 | 1:59:14 | |
that getting on the housing ladder
is not just a dream of your parents | 1:59:14 | 1:59:21 | |
passed, but a reality for your
future. We have started with schemes | 1:59:21 | 1:59:25 | |
like help to buy that has helped
320,000 people buy a home. We have | 1:59:25 | 1:59:29 | |
increased the supply of homes. By
more than 1.1 billion since 2010. | 1:59:29 | 1:59:40 | |
Including almost 350,000 affordable
homes -- by more than 1.1 million. | 1:59:40 | 1:59:46 | |
The latest figures show that over
217,000 additional homes were added | 1:59:46 | 1:59:54 | |
to the stock last year, that is a
remarkable achievement, but we need | 1:59:54 | 1:59:59 | |
to do better still if we are to see
affordability improved. This is a | 1:59:59 | 2:00:05 | |
complex challenge and there is no
single magic bullet. If we don't | 2:00:05 | 2:00:11 | |
increase the supply of land for new
homes, more money will simply | 2:00:11 | 2:00:15 | |
inflate prices and make matters
worse. If we don't do more to | 2:00:15 | 2:00:20 | |
support the growth of the SMT
house-building sector that was all | 2:00:20 | 2:00:24 | |
but wiped out by Labour's great
recession, we will remain dependent | 2:00:24 | 2:00:31 | |
on the major national house-builders
that dominate the industry. -- | 2:00:31 | 2:00:36 | |
growth of the SME house-building
sector. Solving this challenge will | 2:00:36 | 2:00:44 | |
require money and it will require
planning reform and it will require | 2:00:44 | 2:00:49 | |
intervention. So today we set out an
ambitious plan to tackle the housing | 2:00:49 | 2:00:54 | |
challenge. Over the next five years
we will commit a total of at least | 2:00:54 | 2:01:00 | |
£44 billion of capital funding,
loans and guarantees to support our | 2:01:00 | 2:01:05 | |
housing market, to boost the supply
of skills, resources and building | 2:01:05 | 2:01:09 | |
land and to create the financial
incentives to deliver 300,000 net | 2:01:09 | 2:01:16 | |
additional homes on average by the
mid-20 20s, the biggest annual | 2:01:16 | 2:01:20 | |
increase in housing supply | 2:01:20 | 2:01:26 | |
New money for the fund to get SME
house-building began, a £30 million | 2:01:26 | 2:01:33 | |
fund, a further £2.7 billion to more
than double the housing | 2:01:33 | 2:01:39 | |
infrastructure fund, £400 million
more for a state regeneration, air | 2:01:39 | 2:01:44 | |
£1.1 billion fund to unlock
strategic sites, including new | 2:01:44 | 2:01:48 | |
settlements and urban regeneration
schemes, a listing of H R eight caps | 2:01:48 | 2:01:56 | |
for councils in high demand areas to
get them building again and £8 | 2:01:56 | 2:01:59 | |
billion of new financial guarantees
to support house-building and the | 2:01:59 | 2:02:05 | |
private rented sector. Because we
need a workforce to build these new | 2:02:05 | 2:02:08 | |
homes, we are providing an
additional 30 formally in pounds to | 2:02:08 | 2:02:12 | |
develop construction skills across
the country. Mr Deputy Speaker, | 2:02:12 | 2:02:17 | |
solving the housing challenge takes
more than money, it takes planning | 2:02:17 | 2:02:20 | |
reform. We will focus on the urban
areas where people want to live, and | 2:02:20 | 2:02:25 | |
where most jobs are created, making
best use of our urban land and | 2:02:25 | 2:02:31 | |
continuing the strong protection of
our green belt. In particular, | 2:02:31 | 2:02:39 | |
building high-quality high density
homes in city centres and around | 2:02:39 | 2:02:42 | |
major transport hubs. And to put the
needs of our young people first, we | 2:02:42 | 2:02:48 | |
will insure that councils in high
demand areas permit more homes for | 2:02:48 | 2:02:54 | |
first-time buyers and affordable
renters. The Communities Secretary | 2:02:54 | 2:02:59 | |
will set out more detailed in a
statement to the House in due | 2:02:59 | 2:03:03 | |
course. However, one thing is very
clear, there is a significant gap | 2:03:03 | 2:03:08 | |
between the number of planning
permission is granted, and the | 2:03:08 | 2:03:11 | |
number of homes built. In London
alone, there are 270,000 residential | 2:03:11 | 2:03:20 | |
planning permission is an built. We
need to understand why -- not built. | 2:03:20 | 2:03:28 | |
I'm establishing an urgent review to
look at the gap between planning | 2:03:28 | 2:03:33 | |
permissions and housing starts. It
will be chaired by the member for | 2:03:33 | 2:03:37 | |
West Dorset and will deliver an
interim report in time for the | 2:03:37 | 2:03:45 | |
spring statement next year. And if
that report finds that fighter Lee | 2:03:45 | 2:03:50 | |
needed land is being withheld from
the market for commercial rather | 2:03:50 | 2:03:56 | |
than technical reasons, we will
intervene to change the incentives | 2:03:56 | 2:04:00 | |
to ensure such land is brought
forward for development, using | 2:04:00 | 2:04:05 | |
direct intervention, compulsory
purchase powers as necessary. My | 2:04:05 | 2:04:09 | |
right honourable friend the Prime
Minister has said we will fix this | 2:04:09 | 2:04:14 | |
problem, and no one should doubt the
Government's determination to do so. | 2:04:14 | 2:04:21 | |
But the solution will not deliver
itself. Local authorities will need | 2:04:21 | 2:04:27 | |
help and support. Developers will
need encouragement and persuasion. | 2:04:27 | 2:04:34 | |
Infrastructure to facilitate higher
density development must be funded | 2:04:34 | 2:04:38 | |
undelivered. So the Homes and
Communities Agency will expand to | 2:04:38 | 2:04:43 | |
become homes England bringing
together money, expertise and | 2:04:43 | 2:04:48 | |
planning and compulsory purchase
powers with a clear remit to | 2:04:48 | 2:04:52 | |
facilitate delivery of sufficient
new homes where they are most | 2:04:52 | 2:04:57 | |
needed, to deliver a sustained
improvement in housing | 2:04:57 | 2:04:59 | |
affordability. The battle to achieve
and sustain affordability will be a | 2:04:59 | 2:05:06 | |
long-term one, so we also need to
look beyond this Parliament, to | 2:05:06 | 2:05:11 | |
long-term measures. We will use new
town development corporations to | 2:05:11 | 2:05:15 | |
kick-start five new locally agreed
garden towns in areas of demand | 2:05:15 | 2:05:20 | |
pressure, delivered through
public-private partnerships, | 2:05:20 | 2:05:25 | |
designed to attract long-term
capital investment from around the | 2:05:25 | 2:05:26 | |
world. Last week, the National in
the structure commission published | 2:05:26 | 2:05:33 | |
their report on the Cambridge Milton
Keynes Oxford corridor. Today, we | 2:05:33 | 2:05:37 | |
back their vision and commit to
building up to 1 million homes by | 2:05:37 | 2:05:43 | |
2050, completing the road and rail
infrastructure to support them. As a | 2:05:43 | 2:05:47 | |
down payment on this plan, we have
agreed an ambitious housing deal | 2:05:47 | 2:05:52 | |
with Oxfordshire, to deliver 100,000
homes by 2031. Capitalising on the | 2:05:52 | 2:05:59 | |
global reputations of our two most
famous universities and Britain's | 2:05:59 | 2:06:04 | |
biggest new town, to create a
dynamic new growth corridor for the | 2:06:04 | 2:06:08 | |
21st century. Mr Deputy Speaker,
this is our plan to deliver on the | 2:06:08 | 2:06:14 | |
pledge we have made to the next
generation. That the dream of home | 2:06:14 | 2:06:20 | |
ownership will become a reality in
this country once again. But I also | 2:06:20 | 2:06:25 | |
want to take action today to help
young people who are saving to own a | 2:06:25 | 2:06:30 | |
home. One of the biggest challenges
facing young first-time buyers is | 2:06:30 | 2:06:35 | |
the cash required upfront. We have
put £10 billion more money into Help | 2:06:35 | 2:06:40 | |
to Buy equity loan to help those
saving for a deposit, but I want to | 2:06:40 | 2:06:46 | |
do more still. I have received
representations for a temporary | 2:06:46 | 2:06:49 | |
stamp duty holiday to first-time
buyers, but this would only help | 2:06:49 | 2:06:54 | |
those who are ready to purchase now,
and would offer nothing for the many | 2:06:54 | 2:06:59 | |
who will need to save for years. So
with effect from today, for all | 2:06:59 | 2:07:05 | |
first-time buyer purchases up to
£300,000, I am abolishing stamp duty | 2:07:05 | 2:07:10 | |
altogether. | 2:07:10 | 2:07:19 | |
If you want more, you are going to
have to let the Chancellor finish! | 2:07:35 | 2:07:40 | |
Chancellor of the Exchequer. And Mr
Deputy Speaker, to ensure this | 2:07:40 | 2:07:46 | |
release also helps first-time buyers
in very high-priced areas like | 2:07:46 | 2:07:52 | |
London, it will also be available on
the first £300,000 on the purchase | 2:07:52 | 2:07:56 | |
price of properties up to £500,000.
Meaning an effective reduction of | 2:07:56 | 2:08:04 | |
£5,000. Mr Deputy Speaker, that is a
stamp duty cut for 95% of all | 2:08:04 | 2:08:11 | |
first-time buyers who pay stamp
duty, and no stamp duty at all of | 2:08:11 | 2:08:17 | |
80% of first-time buyers from today.
When we say we will revive the | 2:08:17 | 2:08:21 | |
homeowning dream in Britain, we mean
it. We do not underestimate the | 2:08:21 | 2:08:26 | |
scale of the challenge, but today we
have made a substantial down | 2:08:26 | 2:08:31 | |
payment. Mr Deputy Speaker, one of
the things that I love most about | 2:08:31 | 2:08:38 | |
this country is its sense of
opportunity. I have always felt it | 2:08:38 | 2:08:43 | |
and I want young people growing up
today to have that same sense of | 2:08:43 | 2:08:48 | |
boundless opportunity. In this
Budget, I have set out a vision for | 2:08:48 | 2:08:53 | |
Britain's future, and a plan for
delivering it. But by getting our | 2:08:53 | 2:08:58 | |
debt down, by supporting British
families and businesses, by | 2:08:58 | 2:09:01 | |
investing in the technologies and
the skills of the future, by | 2:09:01 | 2:09:06 | |
creating the homes and
infrastructure our country needs, we | 2:09:06 | 2:09:09 | |
are at a turning point in our
history, and we resolve to look | 2:09:09 | 2:09:15 | |
forwards, not backwards. To build on
the strengths of the British | 2:09:15 | 2:09:19 | |
economy, to embrace change, not hide
from it. To seize the opportunities | 2:09:19 | 2:09:24 | |
ahead of us, and together, to build
a Britain fit for the future. I | 2:09:24 | 2:09:29 | |
commend this statement to the House.
STUDIO: And the Chancellor was on | 2:09:29 | 2:09:37 | |
his feet for just a little bit more
than an hour there. He sits down. We | 2:09:37 | 2:09:42 | |
will be back to the House to hear
the response from Jeremy Corbyn, the | 2:09:42 | 2:09:46 | |
Leader of the Opposition. Before we
do, we have time to go through some | 2:09:46 | 2:09:51 | |
of the main measures. A lot of this
taking place in the context of the | 2:09:51 | 2:09:55 | |
downgraded growth by the Office for
Budget Responsibility for this year, | 2:09:55 | 2:09:58 | |
next year and the year after that.
There were a few rabbits he pulled | 2:09:58 | 2:10:04 | |
out. Stamp duty now abolished for
first-time buyers on properties up | 2:10:04 | 2:10:09 | |
to £300,000. That will happen right
away. 300,000 new homes a year. Now | 2:10:09 | 2:10:15 | |
he is saying that is the target by
the mid-20 20s. They are committed | 2:10:15 | 2:10:20 | |
to building 200,000 new homes so I
don't think it will take that long | 2:10:20 | 2:10:29 | |
to get to 300,000. Fuel duty is
frozen for another year. That seems | 2:10:29 | 2:10:33 | |
to be a measure that is baked into
every Budget we have a cover but | 2:10:33 | 2:10:38 | |
there will be additional funding to
provide for the next pay deal for | 2:10:38 | 2:10:42 | |
NHS staff. In other words, the
funding for any pay deal does not | 2:10:42 | 2:10:46 | |
come out of existing budgets, there
will be more money to be found. | 2:10:46 | 2:10:50 | |
Let's just look at the economic
forecast on which all of this | 2:10:50 | 2:10:55 | |
spending is based. The OBR, the
independent forecasting body the | 2:10:55 | 2:11:02 | |
Chancellor relies on has downgraded
economic growth for the next five | 2:11:02 | 2:11:04 | |
years. Indeed, it is by about 2.5%
in total that the economy will be | 2:11:04 | 2:11:11 | |
smaller than what it thought in the
March Budget over the next five-year | 2:11:11 | 2:11:15 | |
period. Even so, borrowing does
continue to fall over the five | 2:11:15 | 2:11:22 | |
years, but at a slower rate than the
Chancellor envisaged even in March. | 2:11:22 | 2:11:26 | |
This means there is a fiscal
loosening in this Budget. That is at | 2:11:26 | 2:11:31 | |
the core of it. We will give you
more forecasts in a minute but let's | 2:11:31 | 2:11:35 | |
go back to the Chamber and hear Mr
Corbyn. | 2:11:35 | 2:11:40 | |
Test of the Budget is how it affects
the reality of people's lives all | 2:11:40 | 2:11:45 | |
around this country. I would submit
that the reality... If somebody | 2:11:45 | 2:11:53 | |
wants to go for an early cup of tea,
please do so. I am told there are | 2:11:53 | 2:11:59 | |
men despise waiting. But what I will
have is the Leader of the Opposition | 2:11:59 | 2:12:04 | |
listened to and quietly from this
side in the same way I expected the | 2:12:04 | 2:12:09 | |
other side of the House.
Jeremy Corbyn. Thank you, Mr Deputy | 2:12:09 | 2:12:15 | |
Speaker. The reality test of this
Budget has to be how it affects | 2:12:15 | 2:12:20 | |
ordinary people's lives, and I
believe as the days go ahead and | 2:12:20 | 2:12:25 | |
this Budget unravels, the reality
will be a lot of people will be no | 2:12:25 | 2:12:30 | |
better off and the misery many R.N.
Will be continuing. Paid, Mr Speaker | 2:12:30 | 2:12:37 | |
is now lower than it was in 2010 and
wages are now falling again. | 2:12:37 | 2:12:45 | |
Economic growth in the first three
quarters of this year is the lowest | 2:12:45 | 2:12:53 | |
since 2009, and the slowest of the
major economies in the G7. It is a | 2:12:53 | 2:12:59 | |
record of failure with the forecast
of more to come. Economic growth has | 2:12:59 | 2:13:06 | |
been revised down, productivity
growth has been revised down, | 2:13:06 | 2:13:12 | |
business investment revised down,
people's wages and living standards | 2:13:12 | 2:13:15 | |
revised down. What sort of strong
economy is that? What sort of fit | 2:13:15 | 2:13:21 | |
for the future is that? You may
recall, Mr Deputy Speaker, the | 2:13:21 | 2:13:29 | |
deficit was due to be eradicated by
2015. Then that moved to 2016. Then | 2:13:29 | 2:13:41 | |
to 2017. Then 2020 and now we are
looking at 2025. They are missing | 2:13:41 | 2:13:51 | |
their major targets, but the failed
and damaging policy of austerity | 2:13:51 | 2:13:58 | |
remains. The number of people
sleeping rough has doubled since | 2:13:58 | 2:14:06 | |
2010, and this Christmas, this
Christmas 120,000 children will | 2:14:06 | 2:14:14 | |
spend Christmas in temporary
accommodation. Three new pilot | 2:14:14 | 2:14:20 | |
schemes to look at rough sleeping
across the whole country simply | 2:14:20 | 2:14:24 | |
doesn't cut it. We want action now
to help those poor people that | 2:14:24 | 2:14:30 | |
forced to sleep on our streets and
beg... Order. I think the whip know | 2:14:30 | 2:14:36 | |
better. We do not need any more from
you or leave the Chamber. The point | 2:14:36 | 2:14:47 | |
I am making is three new pilot
schemes for rough sleepers simply | 2:14:47 | 2:14:52 | |
doesn't cut it. It is a disaster for
those people sleeping on our | 2:14:52 | 2:14:56 | |
streets, forced to beg for money for
a night shelter. They are looking | 2:14:56 | 2:15:00 | |
for action now from government to
give them a roof over their heads. | 2:15:00 | 2:15:04 | |
In some parts of the country, life
expectancy is actually beginning to | 2:15:04 | 2:15:10 | |
fall. The last Labour government
lifted 1 million children out of | 2:15:10 | 2:15:14 | |
poverty. It was an amazing
achievement. Under this government, | 2:15:14 | 2:15:21 | |
an extra 1 million children will be
plunged into poverty by the end of | 2:15:21 | 2:15:24 | |
this Parliament. | 2:15:24 | 2:15:30 | |
1.9 million pensioners, one in six
of all pensioners living in poverty, | 2:15:30 | 2:15:34 | |
the worst rate anywhere in Western
Europe. It is falling pay, slow | 2:15:34 | 2:15:40 | |
growth, rising poverty and this is
what the Chancellor has the cheek to | 2:15:40 | 2:15:46 | |
call a strong economy. His
predecessor said they would put the | 2:15:46 | 2:15:53 | |
burden on those with the broader
shoulders. How has that turned out? | 2:15:53 | 2:16:00 | |
The poorest tenth of households will
lose 10% of their income by 2022 | 2:16:00 | 2:16:11 | |
while the richest will lose just 1%.
So much for tackling burning | 2:16:11 | 2:16:20 | |
injustices, this is a government
tossing fuel on the fire. Personal | 2:16:20 | 2:16:25 | |
debt levels are rising. 8.3 million
people over indebted. If he wants to | 2:16:25 | 2:16:34 | |
help people out of debt, he should
back Labour's policy for a real | 2:16:34 | 2:16:40 | |
living wage of £10 per hour by 2020.
Working-class young people now | 2:16:40 | 2:16:52 | |
leaving university with £57,000 of
debt because this government, his | 2:16:52 | 2:16:59 | |
government, troubled tuition fees
and the new government policy is to | 2:16:59 | 2:17:01 | |
win over young people by keeping
fees at the same rate per year -- | 2:17:01 | 2:17:15 | |
trebled tuition fees. That is just
one of the multitudes of injustices | 2:17:15 | 2:17:22 | |
presided over by this government and
another is Universal Credit which we | 2:17:22 | 2:17:27 | |
called on ministers to pause and
fix. That is the view of this House | 2:17:27 | 2:17:31 | |
and the verdict of those on the
front line. To shout out, keep | 2:17:31 | 2:17:39 | |
going, he will, but you will be
going out of the chamber. Jeremy | 2:17:39 | 2:17:44 | |
Corbyn. I would rather people staged
to listen, actually, Mr Deputy | 2:17:44 | 2:17:49 | |
Speaker. To the reality. Silence! It
will be in silence. Thank you, Mr | 2:17:49 | 2:18:05 | |
Speaker. Maybe those opposite would
like to listen to Martin's | 2:18:05 | 2:18:11 | |
experience. A full-time worker on a
minimum wage, he said, I get paid | 2:18:11 | 2:18:20 | |
four weekly meeting my pay date is
different each month and because | 2:18:20 | 2:18:26 | |
under the Universal Credit system he
was paid twice in a month and deemed | 2:18:26 | 2:18:29 | |
to have earned too much Universal
Credit was cut off and lead to rent | 2:18:29 | 2:18:35 | |
arrears and he had to use a food
bank for the first time in his life. | 2:18:35 | 2:18:39 | |
That is the humiliation he and many
others have gone through because of | 2:18:39 | 2:18:44 | |
the problems of Universal Credit.
Would it not be better to pause the | 2:18:44 | 2:18:48 | |
whole thing and look at the problems
it has caused? The Chancellor's | 2:18:48 | 2:18:56 | |
solution to a failing system causing
more debt is to offer a loan and the | 2:18:56 | 2:19:01 | |
six-week wait with 20% waiting
longer simply becomes a five-week | 2:19:01 | 2:19:07 | |
wait. This system has been run down
by £3 billion of cuts to work | 2:19:07 | 2:19:15 | |
allowances, the two child limit and
the perverse and appalling clause | 2:19:15 | 2:19:23 | |
that caused evictions because
housing benefit is not paid direct | 2:19:23 | 2:19:27 | |
to the landlord. I say put this
system on hold so it can be fixed | 2:19:27 | 2:19:31 | |
and keep 1 million of our children
out of poverty. For years, we have | 2:19:31 | 2:19:37 | |
had the rhetoric of a long-term
economic plan that never meets its | 2:19:37 | 2:19:43 | |
targets. When all too many are
experiencing long-term economic | 2:19:43 | 2:19:50 | |
pain. And the hardest hit are
disabled people, single parents and | 2:19:50 | 2:19:56 | |
women. It is disappointing the
Chancellor did not back the campaign | 2:19:56 | 2:20:02 | |
by my honourable friend to end
period poverty. He could have done | 2:20:02 | 2:20:09 | |
that. Well done to her on the
campaign, shame on him for not | 2:20:09 | 2:20:15 | |
supporting it. The Conservative
manifesto in the last election | 2:20:15 | 2:20:19 | |
disappeared off its website after
three days, and now some ministers | 2:20:19 | 2:20:24 | |
opposite have put forward some half
decent proposals, conspicuously | 2:20:24 | 2:20:28 | |
borrowed from the Labour manifesto.
Let me tell the Chancellor, as | 2:20:28 | 2:20:36 | |
socialists we are happy to share
ideas. The Communities Secretary is | 2:20:36 | 2:20:41 | |
called the borrowing to invest in
house-building presumably the Prime | 2:20:41 | 2:20:46 | |
Minister slapped him down for
wanting to bankrupt Britain. Where | 2:20:46 | 2:20:50 | |
is the money to fund the pay rise if
he says the pay cap is over? The | 2:20:50 | 2:20:55 | |
Chancellor has not been clear for
NHS workers, police, firefighters, | 2:20:55 | 2:21:03 | |
teachers and assistants, bin
collectors, Armed Forces personnel. | 2:21:03 | 2:21:08 | |
Will the Chancellor listen to
Claire, who says her mum works for | 2:21:08 | 2:21:12 | |
the NHS and she goes above and
beyond for her patients. Why does | 2:21:12 | 2:21:21 | |
the government think it OK to
underpay, over stress and under | 2:21:21 | 2:21:23 | |
appreciate all those who work in the
NHS? The NHS chief executive says | 2:21:23 | 2:21:30 | |
the budget for the NHS next year is
short of what is currently needed. | 2:21:30 | 2:21:35 | |
From what the Chancellor has said,
it is still going to be well short | 2:21:35 | 2:21:40 | |
of what is needed. He said in 2015
they would fund another 5000 GPs. In | 2:21:40 | 2:21:49 | |
the last year, 1200, we have had
1200 fewer GPs and we have lost | 2:21:49 | 2:21:58 | |
community and mental health nurses.
The Chancellor promised | 2:21:58 | 2:22:02 | |
10,000,000,020 15 and delivered 4.5.
If you don't mind, we will wait for | 2:22:02 | 2:22:08 | |
the small print on the announcement
but even what he said falls well | 2:22:08 | 2:22:14 | |
short of the 6 billion Labour would
have delivered from our June | 2:22:14 | 2:22:17 | |
manifesto. Over 1 million of our
elderly are not receiving the care | 2:22:17 | 2:22:23 | |
they need. Over... Over 6 billion
will have been cut from social care | 2:22:23 | 2:22:34 | |
budgets by next March. I hope he
begins to understand what it is like | 2:22:34 | 2:22:39 | |
to wait for social care, stuck in a
hospital bed, with other people | 2:22:39 | 2:22:44 | |
having to give up work to care for
them. The uncaring, uncouth attitude | 2:22:44 | 2:22:54 | |
of certain members... Order. Carry
on. | 2:22:54 | 2:23:07 | |
Mr Speaker, that is why social care
budgets are so important for so many | 2:23:08 | 2:23:17 | |
desperate people in our country. Our
schools will be 5% worse off by | 2:23:17 | 2:23:26 | |
2019, despite the Conservative
manifesto promising no school would | 2:23:26 | 2:23:29 | |
be worse off. 5000 headteachers from
25 counties wrote to the Chancellor | 2:23:29 | 2:23:40 | |
saying, we are simply asking for the
money that has been taken out of the | 2:23:40 | 2:23:43 | |
system to be returned. A senior
science technician wrote to me, | 2:23:43 | 2:23:49 | |
Robert, saying, my pay has been
reduced by over 30%. I have seen | 2:23:49 | 2:23:56 | |
massive cuts at my school, good
teachers and support staff leave. | 2:23:56 | 2:24:01 | |
That is what does for the morale of
both teachers and students. | 2:24:01 | 2:24:08 | |
According to this government, 5000
headteachers are wrong, Robert is | 2:24:08 | 2:24:13 | |
wrong, the IFS is wrong, everybody
is wrong, except the Chancellor. And | 2:24:13 | 2:24:20 | |
if the Chancellor bothered to listen
to what local government is saying, | 2:24:20 | 2:24:25 | |
they have been warning services for
the most vulnerable children are | 2:24:25 | 2:24:30 | |
under more demand than ever. More
children being taken into care, more | 2:24:30 | 2:24:34 | |
in desperate need of help and
support, yet they are labouring with | 2:24:34 | 2:24:41 | |
a 2 billion shortfall in the cost of
dealing with vulnerable children. | 2:24:41 | 2:24:45 | |
Because local councils have lost
80%, will have lost 80% of direct | 2:24:45 | 2:24:54 | |
funding by 2020. The reality of
this, across the country, is | 2:24:54 | 2:25:01 | |
winning's refuges closing, youth
centres and libraries and museums | 2:25:01 | 2:25:07 | |
closing, public facilities
understaffed, under resourced and | 2:25:07 | 2:25:11 | |
underfinanced. It could be so
different, but compassion can cost | 2:25:11 | 2:25:16 | |
very little. Just £10 million is
needed to establish the child | 2:25:16 | 2:25:21 | |
funeral fund, campaigned for
brilliantly by my honourable friend | 2:25:21 | 2:25:27 | |
the member for Swansea East. Why
could not the Chancellor at least | 2:25:27 | 2:25:31 | |
have agreed to fund that? Under this
government there are also 20,000 | 2:25:31 | 2:25:37 | |
fewer police officers and another
6000 community support officers and | 2:25:37 | 2:25:43 | |
11,000 Fire Service staff cut as
well. You cannot keep communities | 2:25:43 | 2:25:46 | |
safe on the cheap. Tammy explains
this. Our police presence has been | 2:25:46 | 2:25:54 | |
taken away from the village, meaning
an increase in crime, as a single | 2:25:54 | 2:25:59 | |
parent I no longer feel safe in the
village where I live, particularly | 2:25:59 | 2:26:02 | |
at night. 5.5 million workers earn
less than living wage, 1 million | 2:26:02 | 2:26:10 | |
more than five years ago. The
Chancellor last Sunday could not | 2:26:10 | 2:26:16 | |
even see 1.4 million people
unemployed in this country. There is | 2:26:16 | 2:26:22 | |
a crisis of low pay and insecure
work affecting one in four women and | 2:26:22 | 2:26:30 | |
one in six men, a record 7.4 million
people in working households living | 2:26:30 | 2:26:37 | |
in poverty. If we want workers
earning better pay, less dependent | 2:26:37 | 2:26:43 | |
on in work benefits, we need strong
trade unions, the most effective way | 2:26:43 | 2:26:48 | |
of boosting workers pay. Instead,
this government weakened trade | 2:26:48 | 2:26:54 | |
unions and introduced employment
Tribunal fees, now scrapped, thanks | 2:26:54 | 2:26:58 | |
to the victory in the courts by
Unison, a trade union representing | 2:26:58 | 2:27:03 | |
members. Why did the Chancellor not
take the opportunity to make two | 2:27:03 | 2:27:09 | |
changes to control debt? First, to
cap credit card debt so nobody pays | 2:27:09 | 2:27:17 | |
back more than they borrowed. And
second, to stop credit card | 2:27:17 | 2:27:22 | |
companies increasing people'scredit
limit without their say-so. Debt is | 2:27:22 | 2:27:27 | |
being racked up because the
government is weak on those who | 2:27:27 | 2:27:31 | |
exploit people such as rail
companies hiking fares above | 2:27:31 | 2:27:36 | |
inflation, and water companies and
energy suppliers. During the general | 2:27:36 | 2:27:41 | |
election he promised an energy cap
to benefit around 17 million | 2:27:41 | 2:27:47 | |
families on standard variable
tariffs. But every bill tells | 2:27:47 | 2:27:51 | |
millions the government has broken
that promise. And with 10 billion in | 2:27:51 | 2:27:57 | |
housing benefit going into the
pockets of private landlords every | 2:27:57 | 2:28:01 | |
year, housing is a key factor in
driving up the welfare bill. Not too | 2:28:01 | 2:28:06 | |
many words from the Chancellor about
excessive levels of rent in the | 2:28:06 | 2:28:11 | |
private rented sector. With this
government delivering the worst rate | 2:28:11 | 2:28:14 | |
of house building since the 20s, and
a quarter... And a quarter of a | 2:28:14 | 2:28:27 | |
million fewer council homes, any
commitment would be welcome. But we | 2:28:27 | 2:28:32 | |
have been here before. The
government promised 200,000 starter | 2:28:32 | 2:28:37 | |
homes, three years ago, and not a
single one has yet been built in | 2:28:37 | 2:28:43 | |
those three years. We need a large
scale publicly funded house-building | 2:28:43 | 2:28:48 | |
programme, not this government's
accounting tricks and empty | 2:28:48 | 2:28:52 | |
promises. We back the abolition of
stamp duty for first-time buyers | 2:28:52 | 2:28:58 | |
because it was another Labour policy
in our manifesto in June, not a Tory | 2:28:58 | 2:29:05 | |
one. This government continues
preference for spin over substance, | 2:29:05 | 2:29:09 | |
that means across this country, in
the words wolf powerhouse and | 2:29:09 | 2:29:15 | |
Midlands engine, now met with
derision. Yorkshire and Humber get | 2:29:15 | 2:29:21 | |
only one tenth of the transport
investment per head given to London. | 2:29:21 | 2:29:27 | |
And government figures show every
region in the of England has seen a | 2:29:27 | 2:29:33 | |
fall in spending on services since
2012. The Midlands, East and west is | 2:29:33 | 2:29:40 | |
receiving less than 8% of total
transport infrastructure investment | 2:29:40 | 2:29:46 | |
compared with 50% going to London.
In the east and West Midlands one in | 2:29:46 | 2:29:52 | |
four workers are paid less than the
living wage, so much for the | 2:29:52 | 2:29:56 | |
Midlands engine. We announced
funding for the trans-Pennine rail | 2:29:56 | 2:30:00 | |
route will not cut it and the other
announcements today will not redress | 2:30:00 | 2:30:07 | |
that balance. Combined with
counter-productive forced Erraid | 2:30:07 | 2:30:10 | |
Davies lack of investment has
consequences in sluggish growth and | 2:30:10 | 2:30:14 | |
shrinking pay packets. Public
investment has virtually halved. | 2:30:14 | 2:30:18 | |
Under this government Britain has
the lowest rate of public investment | 2:30:18 | 2:30:22 | |
in the G7. But it is now investing
in driverless cars. After months of | 2:30:22 | 2:30:30 | |
road testing back-seat driving in
the government. | 2:30:30 | 2:30:38 | |
By moving from RPI to CPI indexes
non-business rates, the Chancellor | 2:30:38 | 2:30:48 | |
has adopted another Labour policy.
But why don't they go further and | 2:30:48 | 2:30:53 | |
adopt Labour's entire business rates
including the annual revaluation of | 2:30:53 | 2:31:01 | |
business rates. Nowhere have their
chaos been more evident than over | 2:31:01 | 2:31:06 | |
Brexit. Following round after round
of fruitless Brexit negotiations, | 2:31:06 | 2:31:10 | |
the Brexit secretary has been
shunted out for the Prime Minister | 2:31:10 | 2:31:13 | |
who has got no further. Every major
business organisation has written to | 2:31:13 | 2:31:18 | |
the Government telling them to pull
their finger out and get on with it. | 2:31:18 | 2:31:23 | |
Businesses are delaying crucial
investment decisions because of this | 2:31:23 | 2:31:26 | |
government doesn't get its act
together soon, they will be taking | 2:31:26 | 2:31:30 | |
relocation decisions. Crashing out
with no deal and turning Britain | 2:31:30 | 2:31:36 | |
into a tax haven would damage
people's jobs and living standards | 2:31:36 | 2:31:42 | |
would serve only a wealthy few. It
is not as if this government isn't | 2:31:42 | 2:31:47 | |
doing its best to protect tax havens
and its clients in the meantime. The | 2:31:47 | 2:31:56 | |
Paradise Papers exposed how a
super-rich elite gets away with | 2:31:56 | 2:32:00 | |
dodging taxes. This government has
opposed measure after measure in | 2:32:00 | 2:32:04 | |
this House and their Tory colleagues
in the European Parliament, to clamp | 2:32:04 | 2:32:09 | |
down on the tax havens that
facilitate this outrageous leaching | 2:32:09 | 2:32:13 | |
from our public purse. Nonpaid tax,
clever reinvestment to get away with | 2:32:13 | 2:32:21 | |
tax, actually, it is hospitals,
schools, housing and it hit the | 2:32:21 | 2:32:25 | |
poorest and most needy in our
society. There is nothing immoral | 2:32:25 | 2:32:29 | |
about dodging tax. There is
everything in moral about evading | 2:32:29 | 2:32:32 | |
it. Mr Speaker, too often it feels
like there is one rule for the | 2:32:32 | 2:32:38 | |
super-rich and another for the rest
of us. The horrors of Grenfell Tower | 2:32:38 | 2:32:45 | |
were a reflection of a system which
puts profits before people, that | 2:32:45 | 2:32:52 | |
failed to listen to working-class
communities. In 2013, the Government | 2:32:52 | 2:32:56 | |
received advice in a krona's report
that sprinklers should be fitted in | 2:32:56 | 2:33:01 | |
all high-rise buildings. Today, once
again, the Government failed to fund | 2:33:01 | 2:33:09 | |
the £1 billion investment needed.
The Chancellor says council should | 2:33:09 | 2:33:11 | |
contact them. But not in house,
Westminster house and they have been | 2:33:11 | 2:33:18 | |
refused. Nothing was offered to
them. We have the privilege to be | 2:33:18 | 2:33:25 | |
members of Parliament, in a building
that is about to be retrofitted with | 2:33:25 | 2:33:30 | |
sprinklers, to protect us. The
message is pretty clear. This | 2:33:30 | 2:33:35 | |
government cares more about what
happens here then happens to people | 2:33:35 | 2:33:40 | |
living in high-rise homes. In effect
saying they matter less. Our | 2:33:40 | 2:33:47 | |
country, Mr Speaker, is marked by
growing inequality and injustice. We | 2:33:47 | 2:33:52 | |
were promised a revolutionary
Budget, the reality is nothing has | 2:33:52 | 2:34:00 | |
changed. People were looking for
help from this Budget and they have | 2:34:00 | 2:34:04 | |
been let down. Let down by a
government, that like the economy be | 2:34:04 | 2:34:09 | |
presided over, is weak and unstable
and in need of urgent change. They | 2:34:09 | 2:34:14 | |
called this a Budget fit for the
future. The reality is, this is a | 2:34:14 | 2:34:20 | |
government no longer fit for office.
Nicky Morgan. | 2:34:20 | 2:34:29 | |
STUDIO: And Jeremy Corbyn sits down
after a long and wide-ranging | 2:34:29 | 2:34:35 | |
response to the Budget. If you wish
to continue to watch what is | 2:34:35 | 2:34:39 | |
happening in the House of Commons,
you can switch to the BBC Parliament | 2:34:39 | 2:34:43 | |
channel and that will tell you what
is going on there. Here, we will go | 2:34:43 | 2:34:48 | |
through the Budget measures. The
speech was 7973 words, and there was | 2:34:48 | 2:34:54 | |
quite a lot in it. Let's go through
some of the main measures and see | 2:34:54 | 2:34:58 | |
what the Chancellor has done. The
surprise in the Budget was the | 2:34:58 | 2:35:02 | |
abolition of stamp duty for
first-time buyers on properties of | 2:35:02 | 2:35:07 | |
up to £300,000. That is to start
immediately. If you look at average | 2:35:07 | 2:35:11 | |
prices outside of London, they are
all well under £300,000. North-east | 2:35:11 | 2:35:19 | |
England 125,000, the south-west,
200,000. That will make something of | 2:35:19 | 2:35:23 | |
a difference in terms of the stamp
duty there. The Chancellor also | 2:35:23 | 2:35:29 | |
promised 300,000 additional homes in
England each year by the mid 20 20s. | 2:35:29 | 2:35:36 | |
That is quite a way off given they
are already claiming to be creating | 2:35:36 | 2:35:39 | |
over 200,000 additional new homes
every year. Fuel duty has been | 2:35:39 | 2:35:42 | |
frozen for another year. That is
probably on the F1 key for the | 2:35:42 | 2:35:48 | |
Budget submission because they seem
to do it every year. The Chancellor | 2:35:48 | 2:35:52 | |
pointed out how much money that has
costed over the years, over £40 | 2:35:52 | 2:35:57 | |
billion by not raising fuel duty.
And he promised additional funding | 2:35:57 | 2:36:01 | |
to provide for the next pay deal for
NHS staff. There will be | 2:36:01 | 2:36:08 | |
negotiations. NHS staff will get
some sort of pay rise. He will come | 2:36:08 | 2:36:12 | |
up with the extra money. Other
measures announced by the | 2:36:12 | 2:36:18 | |
Chancellor: the personal allowance
will increase to £11,850, that is | 2:36:18 | 2:36:22 | |
the you have to earn before you pay
tax. That is in line with inflation. | 2:36:22 | 2:36:27 | |
He is aiming to get to £12,500 by
2020. The high rate threshold will | 2:36:27 | 2:36:35 | |
come in at £46,350. That is in line
with inflation. He did commit to | 2:36:35 | 2:36:41 | |
reaching £50,000 by the end of the
decade. The young person's Railcard | 2:36:41 | 2:36:46 | |
is extended from ages 26 to 30.
There will be lots more young people | 2:36:46 | 2:36:51 | |
on the roadways, I am sure as a
result of that. -- on the railways. | 2:36:51 | 2:36:58 | |
There were a number of changes on
Universal Credit which is the | 2:36:58 | 2:37:02 | |
rolling up of several welfare
benefits into a single Universal | 2:37:02 | 2:37:06 | |
Credit. We will look at that in more
detail later. I think he said the | 2:37:06 | 2:37:11 | |
changes would cost around £1.5
billion. What was a problem for the | 2:37:11 | 2:37:16 | |
Government, he has thrown a bit of
money at it. All of this is behind | 2:37:16 | 2:37:22 | |
the growth forecast. This in the
macroeconomic terms is the most | 2:37:22 | 2:37:31 | |
interesting. The independent Office
for Budget Responsibility, which | 2:37:31 | 2:37:33 | |
does this forecast, has done some
quite substantial downgrades and | 2:37:33 | 2:37:35 | |
growth. Even in March of this year
it said the economy would grow by 2% | 2:37:35 | 2:37:41 | |
in 2017, now it is down to 1.5%.
There was one year in November they | 2:37:41 | 2:37:48 | |
predicted the growth rate for that
year and it was way out. But | 2:37:48 | 2:37:52 | |
nevertheless, that is what is
saying. 2018, it goes down a little | 2:37:52 | 2:37:57 | |
bit further to 1.4. Then two years
of 1.3% and then 1.5%. The reality | 2:37:57 | 2:38:06 | |
is in the next three years in no
stage according to this forecast | 2:38:06 | 2:38:10 | |
does the British economy come
anywhere near 2% economic growth. | 2:38:10 | 2:38:16 | |
That is quite a substantial
downgrade. It would seem to imply | 2:38:16 | 2:38:21 | |
that the underlying rate of growth
we can manage has fallen | 2:38:21 | 2:38:26 | |
substantially. Other economic
forecasts, because of the lower | 2:38:26 | 2:38:29 | |
economic growth, then you have to
borrow a bit more. The Chancellor is | 2:38:29 | 2:38:34 | |
still planning for borrowing to fall
in the next five years but not in | 2:38:34 | 2:38:37 | |
nearly the same rate. In two or
three years' time, the amount of | 2:38:37 | 2:38:41 | |
borrowing will be double what the
OBR was forecasting in March of this | 2:38:41 | 2:38:45 | |
year. So deficit reduction
continues, but at a slower rate. | 2:38:45 | 2:38:52 | |
That surplus that the Chancellor
sometimes talks about, he did not | 2:38:52 | 2:38:56 | |
mention it much today, seems to slip
ever further into the distant | 2:38:56 | 2:39:01 | |
future. Part of the reason why the
growth has come down and the | 2:39:01 | 2:39:06 | |
borrowing slowdown in reducing the
deficit has taken place, is because | 2:39:06 | 2:39:10 | |
the OBR has assumed our
productivity, our ability to produce | 2:39:10 | 2:39:14 | |
things efficiently is not going to
grow nearly as quickly as it hoped. | 2:39:14 | 2:39:20 | |
That affect tax revenues and
economic growth. However, the OBR | 2:39:20 | 2:39:25 | |
says despite unemployment on most
measures now, we are pretty much at | 2:39:25 | 2:39:31 | |
full employment, there will be
600,000 more people in employment by | 2:39:31 | 2:39:35 | |
2020. Here is one that the
Government regards as a watershed. | 2:39:35 | 2:39:41 | |
It is saying that debt, our national
debt, all the money previous | 2:39:41 | 2:39:47 | |
governments have borrowed over the
years, and we have not yet paid | 2:39:47 | 2:39:51 | |
back, the national debt will peak at
85.65% of national income this year | 2:39:51 | 2:39:59 | |
and then start to fall -- it will
peak at 86 point 5%. The Government | 2:39:59 | 2:40:08 | |
exist as a watershed that debt. To
come down. As an -- a percentage. In | 2:40:08 | 2:40:19 | |
health, there were lots of
announcements on health. The health | 2:40:19 | 2:40:23 | |
service is to receive an extra 10
billion in capital investment over | 2:40:23 | 2:40:27 | |
the course of this Parliament the
Chancellor said. £2.8 billion extra | 2:40:27 | 2:40:34 | |
resource funding for NHS England and
new funds to include 350 million | 2:40:34 | 2:40:45 | |
this winter. The tobacco duty to
rise by inflation plus 2%. There | 2:40:45 | 2:40:53 | |
will be an extra 1% duty on hand
rolling tobacco. Sorry to the hand | 2:40:53 | 2:41:00 | |
rollers. The increased duty on some
ciders will not be popular in Devon. | 2:41:00 | 2:41:05 | |
And on business. He has decided not
to rise the threshold for small | 2:41:05 | 2:41:21 | |
businesses. Businesses rates will
not go up so quickly and business | 2:41:21 | 2:41:29 | |
rate revaluations will take place
every three years, not every five. | 2:41:29 | 2:41:33 | |
That may put the rates up a little
bit again. Other measures before we | 2:41:33 | 2:41:38 | |
start our analysis, he announced £3
billion for Brexit preparations. | 2:41:38 | 2:41:44 | |
Whether he will have to spend all
that, we don't know. The National | 2:41:44 | 2:41:50 | |
Living Wage will rise to £7 83 an
hour I April next year. There will | 2:41:50 | 2:42:00 | |
be £2 billion extra for Scotland,
£1.2 billion for Wales and £650 | 2:42:00 | 2:42:05 | |
million the Northern Ireland.
Vehicle excise duties will increase | 2:42:05 | 2:42:10 | |
for the most polluting now unpopular
diesel cars. A lot of other things | 2:42:10 | 2:42:19 | |
in the Budget but I think these are
the main headlines. Paul Johnson, | 2:42:19 | 2:42:26 | |
the Institute for Fiscal Studies is
joining us round this table. Let's | 2:42:26 | 2:42:30 | |
get our in-house experts first. The
politics of this, Laura? I think | 2:42:30 | 2:42:35 | |
Philip Hammond is digging a plaster
on some of the problems the | 2:42:35 | 2:42:40 | |
Government has had. Whether that is
improvements to Universal Credit, | 2:42:40 | 2:42:44 | |
more money for the NHS and on
housing, what the Government will | 2:42:44 | 2:42:47 | |
claim is a very big response to
problems and anxieties that were | 2:42:47 | 2:42:51 | |
expressed in the election and the
last few months, that this is really | 2:42:51 | 2:42:56 | |
the crisis of our time, which the
Prime Minister has personally | 2:42:56 | 2:43:01 | |
promised to fix. The announcement of
scrapping stamp duty for first-time | 2:43:01 | 2:43:06 | |
buyers up to £300,000, is something
that will get Tory backbenchers | 2:43:06 | 2:43:11 | |
cheering. Number Ten were delighted
they were able to come up with an | 2:43:11 | 2:43:15 | |
announcement like that that without
question will grab some of the | 2:43:15 | 2:43:18 | |
headlines. I think it will be
difficult in the coming days for the | 2:43:18 | 2:43:22 | |
Government to escape the rather more
grim economic picture behind that. | 2:43:22 | 2:43:26 | |
The reality is if the forecasts
prove to be correct, the economy and | 2:43:26 | 2:43:31 | |
how we will all feel about whether
or not we are feeling skint and | 2:43:31 | 2:43:34 | |
grumpy, or whether things are
improving under this government, is | 2:43:34 | 2:43:38 | |
the economy is not as healthy as
previously thought. Notable that £3 | 2:43:38 | 2:43:44 | |
billion for Brexit preparation,
around the same money which is going | 2:43:44 | 2:43:48 | |
into the NHS. Indeed, expensive.
Kamal, what is your headline? It is | 2:43:48 | 2:43:56 | |
the downgrading growth. The Office
for Budget Responsibility has been | 2:43:56 | 2:43:59 | |
more negative than the Bank of
England was a few weeks ago. Also, | 2:43:59 | 2:44:04 | |
it has cut productivity. That means
tax receipts for the Government are | 2:44:04 | 2:44:08 | |
set to fall. The judgment is in the
numbers they have just published | 2:44:08 | 2:44:13 | |
alongside the Budget by £20 billion
by the end of the forecast period. | 2:44:13 | 2:44:17 | |
In response to that, Philip Hammond
has tried to do two things. He has | 2:44:17 | 2:44:21 | |
tried to do the vision thing. He was
asked to have this idea of optimism. | 2:44:21 | 2:44:26 | |
At the start of this Budget it did
not have any figures in. He was | 2:44:26 | 2:44:30 | |
talking about the challenges and
then the EU money. But what | 2:44:30 | 2:44:35 | |
accompanies this is a big fiscal
loosening. He is allowing for much | 2:44:35 | 2:44:39 | |
more borrowing. If you compare the
March 20 17 Budget with this one, | 2:44:39 | 2:44:45 | |
over the last three years of the
forecast period, the tax takes were | 2:44:45 | 2:44:51 | |
going to beat the spending
giveaways. For every year of the | 2:44:51 | 2:44:57 | |
forecast period, spending giveaways
or borrowing giveaways are far | 2:44:57 | 2:45:01 | |
higher than tax takes. So he has
allowed for the borrowing lock to be | 2:45:01 | 2:45:06 | |
loosened slightly over then whole
five years up to 2022. I think that | 2:45:06 | 2:45:11 | |
is the most significant change. | 2:45:11 | 2:45:19 | |
Big changes in business rates. Will
business be happy, disappointed, | 2:45:19 | 2:45:23 | |
relieved? I think they will raise a
small cheer. Business rates revalued | 2:45:23 | 2:45:30 | |
according with CPI rather than RPI
which is at 4% and CBI is at 3% and | 2:45:30 | 2:45:35 | |
they will bring it forward which
will save business 2.3 billion over | 2:45:35 | 2:45:39 | |
the period and the other one, did
not reduce the VAT threshold from | 2:45:39 | 2:45:45 | |
85,000, which was a major banana
skin. If he stepped onto which it | 2:45:45 | 2:45:48 | |
would have been a bad idea. The
other thing, talk of the future, | 2:45:48 | 2:45:56 | |
extra money for productivity and
investment fund. The kitty was 23 | 2:45:56 | 2:46:00 | |
billion. He is now adding another
year to the programme of five | 2:46:00 | 2:46:05 | |
billion and I calculate roughly 3
billion in new money there. He will | 2:46:05 | 2:46:11 | |
have to find the money. Paul
Johnson. We mention the headwinds | 2:46:11 | 2:46:17 | |
the deficit reduction faces because
of slower growth in productivity | 2:46:17 | 2:46:23 | |
growth but he has found more money
to spend, which reduces the deficit | 2:46:23 | 2:46:28 | |
reduction. He has loosened his belt.
Quite a lot. He has moved, he has | 2:46:28 | 2:46:37 | |
taken the hit to the public finances
and added the same amount again in | 2:46:37 | 2:46:42 | |
additional spending with the result
we will be borrowing more than | 2:46:42 | 2:46:47 | |
expected two, three years hence and
if you compare this budget with the | 2:46:47 | 2:46:53 | |
one in March 2016, when George
Osborne was promising a surplus in | 2:46:53 | 2:46:59 | |
2019 of 10 billion, we now have a 35
billion deficit in 2019, a very big | 2:46:59 | 2:47:05 | |
turnaround in less than two years.
Most of it down to the significantly | 2:47:05 | 2:47:11 | |
worse economic forecasts but a large
chunk because the government, not | 2:47:11 | 2:47:17 | |
surprisingly, has found it difficult
in fact impossible to implement the | 2:47:17 | 2:47:21 | |
scale of spending cuts talking about
a couple of years ago. How | 2:47:21 | 2:47:24 | |
significant is it our national debt
as a percentage of our annual GDP, | 2:47:24 | 2:47:35 | |
wealth creation, now starts to fall?
Is it a watershed for the government | 2:47:35 | 2:47:40 | |
or just a mathematical formula? It
does matter that it is not growing | 2:47:40 | 2:47:45 | |
for ever. We do not know what a
sustainable level of national debt | 2:47:45 | 2:47:49 | |
is and it might be bigger, but we
know it cannot grow for ever. One of | 2:47:49 | 2:47:55 | |
the worries for the government in
the long crumb is the OBR appears to | 2:47:55 | 2:48:00 | |
say instead of looking at -- the OBR
is saying they are looking at a | 2:48:00 | 2:48:07 | |
sustainable growth rate and if that
is the case, to get the debt down | 2:48:07 | 2:48:14 | |
you have to borrow less because you
do not get the economy growing to | 2:48:14 | 2:48:18 | |
offset some of the impact of the
deficit. Things get harder if the | 2:48:18 | 2:48:24 | |
economy is not doing well. When you
look at the growth figures. The OBR | 2:48:24 | 2:48:29 | |
might be wrong, it has in the past,
but if we take them at face value as | 2:48:29 | 2:48:34 | |
the Chancellor had to to construct
the sums, that is how it works. We | 2:48:34 | 2:48:40 | |
look like being stuck in the slow
lane for the indefinite future. That | 2:48:40 | 2:48:46 | |
is my initial understanding by what
they are saying, they seem to say | 2:48:46 | 2:48:51 | |
over the next five years and
potentially beyond, with poor | 2:48:51 | 2:48:57 | |
productivity growth, we will be
growing by something like 1.5% a | 2:48:57 | 2:49:01 | |
year and historically opted to
thousand eight we were growing by at | 2:49:01 | 2:49:05 | |
least 2% a year on average. We are
stuck in the international slow | 2:49:05 | 2:49:10 | |
lane. Over the past couple of years
the rest of the world economy has | 2:49:10 | 2:49:14 | |
been going great guns in our economy
has fallen behind the rest of the | 2:49:14 | 2:49:20 | |
world. Why? A series of reasons,
partly the productivity growth and | 2:49:20 | 2:49:31 | |
depreciation of sterling. The rest
of the world has done well and that | 2:49:31 | 2:49:35 | |
has helped us. If the rest of the
world had been doing badly we would | 2:49:35 | 2:49:39 | |
be doing worse but we have gone from
a short period of doing better than | 2:49:39 | 2:49:42 | |
the rest of the world to one where
we are doing worse. Have they given | 2:49:42 | 2:49:46 | |
up on banners in the budget? They
missed it. They were going to do it | 2:49:46 | 2:49:54 | |
by 2015, then 2020, then it was to
be the mid-20s. Call it 2025. I do | 2:49:54 | 2:50:00 | |
not see much of a reference to it
any more, is it over? They have not | 2:50:00 | 2:50:05 | |
said it is over but it looks over to
me. Facing another deterioration in | 2:50:05 | 2:50:13 | |
the public finances, what the
Chancellor did not do is say we have | 2:50:13 | 2:50:17 | |
to hold our course or cut spending
as much, he said the public finances | 2:50:17 | 2:50:22 | |
have got worse and did a sense
making them worse again by spending | 2:50:22 | 2:50:26 | |
more. The deficit today is no higher
than it was before the recession so | 2:50:26 | 2:50:31 | |
the deficit does not look terribly
worrying. It is the question for the | 2:50:31 | 2:50:36 | |
government, are they worried about
the debt? They are not the | 2:50:36 | 2:50:42 | |
individual measures that affect
people directly but have we moved, | 2:50:42 | 2:50:46 | |
is the government asking us to say
stop looking at balancing the | 2:50:46 | 2:50:50 | |
budget, getting to surplus, look at
our national debt that will fall as | 2:50:50 | 2:50:57 | |
a percentage of GDP gently and that
is the metric we should concentrate | 2:50:57 | 2:51:00 | |
on? It is a change? They have not
said it explicitly but I think that | 2:51:00 | 2:51:06 | |
is the impression one gets. In the
long run, that is what matters. It | 2:51:06 | 2:51:12 | |
does not matter whether we are at
budget balance. We could have the | 2:51:12 | 2:51:16 | |
debt gradually falling when we are
not that budget balance but the | 2:51:16 | 2:51:20 | |
risks are if the economy goes wrong,
the debt starts rising quickly. | 2:51:20 | 2:51:25 | |
Because we are growing less quickly
we can afford less in the long run | 2:51:25 | 2:51:31 | |
of a deficit. There is no sign the
markets are particularly fazed by | 2:51:31 | 2:51:38 | |
the new borrowing. There were
important announcements and quite | 2:51:38 | 2:51:42 | |
complicated announcements on health
spending including extra pay for | 2:51:42 | 2:51:47 | |
nurses. Let's go to the BBC health
editor in Birmingham, at a hospital. | 2:51:47 | 2:51:55 | |
Hugh Pym, give us your overall
impression, how significant are the | 2:51:55 | 2:52:01 | |
announcements for our NHS? I think
they are significant politically and | 2:52:01 | 2:52:07 | |
I am sure there will be headlines
about budget billions but looking at | 2:52:07 | 2:52:10 | |
the numbers it does not add up to a
huge amount compared to what the NHS | 2:52:10 | 2:52:15 | |
wanted. You have £350 million for
hospitals in England this winter to | 2:52:15 | 2:52:21 | |
deal with winter pressures, but
already senior health leaders tell | 2:52:21 | 2:52:26 | |
me what do you do at this late stage
with that money? You can only use it | 2:52:26 | 2:52:31 | |
to bring in staff, agency workers,
overtime, and it is difficult to | 2:52:31 | 2:52:39 | |
find people to do extra shifts. You
have 1.6 billion revenue funding for | 2:52:39 | 2:52:43 | |
NHS into next year. The think tank
had asked for 4 billion next year | 2:52:43 | 2:52:49 | |
and Simon Stevens had not
disassociated himself from that | 2:52:49 | 2:52:52 | |
number. You have 1.6 of day-to-day
spending and capital on top but the | 2:52:52 | 2:52:57 | |
view is it falls short. I'm sure
some will say there is money for the | 2:52:57 | 2:53:02 | |
NHS and they are complaining again
but the pressures are so intense it | 2:53:02 | 2:53:06 | |
needed something significant the
next couple of years and it is | 2:53:06 | 2:53:09 | |
welcome to appoint that does not go
as far as they wanted. They will be | 2:53:09 | 2:53:14 | |
relieved that if and when nurses get
a pay rise and it looks like the pay | 2:53:14 | 2:53:18 | |
cap has gone, or what the rise will
be is another matter, that the | 2:53:18 | 2:53:24 | |
Chancellor will not ask the hospital
like the one behind due to fund it | 2:53:24 | 2:53:27 | |
out of its existing budget, he will
find extra money, is that right? | 2:53:27 | 2:53:33 | |
That is right. The Chancellor said
when it came to nurses pay, the pay | 2:53:33 | 2:53:39 | |
review body would make
recommendations early next year and | 2:53:39 | 2:53:43 | |
he would find extra money to pay for
any increase that may be awarded | 2:53:43 | 2:53:46 | |
above the current 1%. That is a big
relief to NHS and employers that | 2:53:46 | 2:53:56 | |
they will not have to fund it. Some
people are saying, it will be | 2:53:56 | 2:54:01 | |
welcome, but we do not know about
doctors' pay and other health staff. | 2:54:01 | 2:54:06 | |
Thank you. Back in the studio I am
joined by the Chief Secretary to the | 2:54:06 | 2:54:16 | |
Treasury Liz Truss. Welcome. Why is
this Conservative government | 2:54:16 | 2:54:21 | |
presiding over declining growth? We
are presided over a period of solid | 2:54:21 | 2:54:28 | |
growth. Hugely increased employment.
One of the most welcome things today | 2:54:28 | 2:54:34 | |
in the OBR forecast is 600,000
people are projected to go into jobs | 2:54:34 | 2:54:39 | |
over the next few years but there is
a challenge about growth. Why is it | 2:54:39 | 2:54:44 | |
declining under your watch? It was
supposed to be 2% this year and it | 2:54:44 | 2:54:49 | |
will be 1.5. OBR says it will be
1.4, 1.3, 1.3. You never get close | 2:54:49 | 2:54:58 | |
to 2% in the foreseeable future.
This is the analysis of the OBR. We | 2:54:58 | 2:55:03 | |
have an issue with productivity as a
country and that is what the | 2:55:03 | 2:55:08 | |
Chancellor last budget talked about
the national productivity investment | 2:55:08 | 2:55:12 | |
fund and investment in skills,
making sure people in work, which is | 2:55:12 | 2:55:16 | |
a major achievement what we have
done on employment, have the ability | 2:55:16 | 2:55:21 | |
to earn more, get skills they need,
and we can turbo-charge some of | 2:55:21 | 2:55:26 | |
those fantastic companies. Wages are
stagnant. To earn more we need to | 2:55:26 | 2:55:32 | |
improve productivity and the way to
do it is to boost high productivity | 2:55:32 | 2:55:38 | |
companies, more investment, in
infrastructure, which is what our | 2:55:38 | 2:55:42 | |
overall budget package is about.
George Osborne in his first budget | 2:55:42 | 2:55:47 | |
in 2010 talked about Britain's week
productivity and that was seven | 2:55:47 | 2:55:52 | |
years ago. Productivity has been
downgraded further by the OBR and | 2:55:52 | 2:55:57 | |
new growth is downgraded. You are
coming up to a decade and it gets | 2:55:57 | 2:56:01 | |
worse. Productivity is a long-term
problem and some of the measures... | 2:56:01 | 2:56:07 | |
Long-term under your government.
Some measures, improving maths in | 2:56:07 | 2:56:11 | |
schools, it will take a while for
those young people to get into the | 2:56:11 | 2:56:16 | |
workforce and improve productivity.
If you look at building Crossrail, | 2:56:16 | 2:56:22 | |
the other lines, the North London
line, those take time. What we are | 2:56:22 | 2:56:28 | |
doing is taking short-term measures
to improve the living standard of | 2:56:28 | 2:56:32 | |
people, whether it is the freeze on
fuel duty or tax while dealing with | 2:56:32 | 2:56:38 | |
long-term issues by investing in
skills and infrastructure. After | 2:56:38 | 2:56:48 | |
seven years and growth is getting
worse. Over the next years, under | 2:56:48 | 2:56:53 | |
your government, productivity is
forecast to fall, GDP growth is done | 2:56:53 | 2:56:58 | |
every year and borrowing continues
higher than you were promising even | 2:56:58 | 2:57:03 | |
in March. Where is the good news?
What is important is despite the | 2:57:03 | 2:57:11 | |
difficult news on areas like
productivity, we are keeping to our | 2:57:11 | 2:57:15 | |
public finance rules and it is
important we have a budget that | 2:57:15 | 2:57:18 | |
keeps within those disciplines,
which keeps control of the public | 2:57:18 | 2:57:24 | |
finances. What we are facing is a
Labour Party that wants to increase | 2:57:24 | 2:57:29 | |
debt by half a trillion pounds. We
are keeping strong public finances | 2:57:29 | 2:57:36 | |
and yes we want growth to improve
and that is why this budget is about | 2:57:36 | 2:57:41 | |
investing in skills, new companies
and helping people get on in life. | 2:57:41 | 2:57:45 | |
Every year you fail to meet the
deficit forecast. In March, by 2021, | 2:57:45 | 2:57:54 | |
you talked by 21-22 you said we
would borrow only 16 billion and now | 2:57:54 | 2:58:03 | |
use a 30 billion. You're not keeping
a tight fiscal grip, you are going | 2:58:03 | 2:58:08 | |
to borrow more. We are sticking with
fiscal rules so we will see debt | 2:58:08 | 2:58:13 | |
falling next year, at the same time
acknowledging the real issues we | 2:58:13 | 2:58:17 | |
have. Let's be clear. A percentage
of GDP. You the absolute level of | 2:58:17 | 2:58:25 | |
debt is rising? Accept that. As a
percentage of GDP, which is the | 2:58:25 | 2:58:32 | |
right measure, because it is what
the economy can afford. Let me ask | 2:58:32 | 2:58:35 | |
about housing. Housing was to be at
the centre of this budget. Why after | 2:58:35 | 2:58:44 | |
seven years in power have you not
got additional net dwellings back to | 2:58:44 | 2:58:52 | |
the increase it was in 2007? What we
have been able to do is get the | 2:58:52 | 2:58:57 | |
number of new houses being built up
to 217,000 a year and that is the | 2:58:57 | 2:59:03 | |
highest since 2008. But lower than
2007. By the end of the parliament | 2:59:03 | 2:59:09 | |
we will be at a level not seen since
the 1970s and the planning reforms | 2:59:09 | 2:59:14 | |
are having an effect and we are
seeing new homes. Of the 217,000 net | 2:59:14 | 2:59:23 | |
additional dwellings, and they are
not all new-build. You are talking | 2:59:23 | 2:59:28 | |
about the category that includes
conversions of commercial property | 2:59:28 | 2:59:31 | |
to homes and big houses being
converted into apartments. Of the | 2:59:31 | 2:59:38 | |
217,000, how much would the
government classify as affordable? I | 2:59:38 | 2:59:42 | |
do not have that figure. The key
point is the more homes we build, | 2:59:42 | 2:59:49 | |
the more affordable they will become
and we are seeking to achieve to | 2:59:49 | 2:59:54 | |
stop the houses becoming more
unaffordable overall. Eusebio aim is | 2:59:54 | 3:00:01 | |
to make housing affordable for more
people. So the figure for new | 3:00:01 | 3:00:08 | |
affordable homes out of the 217,000
is 41,000, down 20,000 on 2010-11 so | 3:00:08 | 3:00:16 | |
as a percentage it is not worth. A
lot of people would argue with your | 3:00:16 | 3:00:22 | |
definition of affordable. Some
cannot afford to buy homes at all. | 3:00:22 | 3:00:26 | |
They can only rent. How many new
social homes for rent have been | 3:00:26 | 3:00:32 | |
created? Last year by this
government? I do not have that | 3:00:32 | 3:00:38 | |
figure. I thought housing was at the
centre of the budget. It is at the | 3:00:38 | 3:00:42 | |
centre. | 3:00:42 | 3:00:48 | |
We are always happy to help the
Treasury. In the first year the | 3:00:48 | 3:00:55 | |
Conservatives were in power, almost
40,000 homes were built for social | 3:00:55 | 3:01:00 | |
rent. We used to call them council
houses or social housing. It is not | 3:01:00 | 3:01:04 | |
a huge number but it was nearly
40,000. Look what has happened under | 3:01:04 | 3:01:09 | |
your watch. By last year that was
down to just over 5000. For many | 3:01:09 | 3:01:15 | |
people on the lowest incomes, that
is all they can do, is trying to get | 3:01:15 | 3:01:19 | |
a social rent house, and you will
you build 5000? My point is we are | 3:01:19 | 3:01:24 | |
building more across the board. The
more homes we build across the | 3:01:24 | 3:01:29 | |
board, the average price. But you
are not doing it across-the-board. | 3:01:29 | 3:01:35 | |
On social rent you have allowed it
to collapse by what, seven acres? | 3:01:35 | 3:01:40 | |
And we have recently made an
announcement in the party | 3:01:40 | 3:01:44 | |
conference, we are putting more
money into building council homes. | 3:01:44 | 3:01:48 | |
We need to build more right across
the board and the key point is we | 3:01:48 | 3:01:51 | |
want to get to levels we saw before
1970 when we were building 300,000 a | 3:01:51 | 3:01:58 | |
year. But if your main concern is
making housing more affordable, is | 3:01:58 | 3:02:02 | |
it really the best use of taxpayers
money to scrap stamp duty for | 3:02:02 | 3:02:06 | |
first-time buyers, when the OBR's
book says actually, it may push | 3:02:06 | 3:02:10 | |
prices up little bit and I quote
from the book: the main gainers from | 3:02:10 | 3:02:15 | |
this policy are people who already
own property, not first-time buyers | 3:02:15 | 3:02:21 | |
themselves. That is a policy cheered
to the raft by Tory MPs and it will | 3:02:21 | 3:02:26 | |
sound good, but the idea is it will
push prices up and people who are | 3:02:26 | 3:02:31 | |
already in their own homes will be
the biggest beneficiaries. Are you | 3:02:31 | 3:02:36 | |
proud of that? Am proud of that.
When I was young many more people my | 3:02:36 | 3:02:40 | |
age were able to buy a home and get
on the housing ladder. I know how | 3:02:40 | 3:02:45 | |
frustrated the next generation are
that they don't have those | 3:02:45 | 3:02:48 | |
opportunities. While we are doing
the long term changes we need to do | 3:02:48 | 3:02:52 | |
to our planning system, and we do
need to get to that 3000 level, I | 3:02:52 | 3:02:56 | |
think it is right... But you are
push up the demand and the supplied | 3:02:56 | 3:03:02 | |
as not come until several years
latest in the meantime you're | 3:03:02 | 3:03:05 | |
pushing prices up. The effect of
building many more homes will be far | 3:03:05 | 3:03:12 | |
greater. But when? This is great
clear that the main gainers from | 3:03:12 | 3:03:16 | |
this policy which is designed to
help people you say you want to | 3:03:16 | 3:03:20 | |
help, the younger generation who are
finding it hard to get on housing | 3:03:20 | 3:03:22 | |
ladder, the main beneficiaries will
be people who already own their | 3:03:22 | 3:03:27 | |
property. Is it the best use of
taxpayers money to essentially be | 3:03:27 | 3:03:33 | |
subsidising homeowners than putting
in money for people at the bottom? | 3:03:33 | 3:03:39 | |
The key policy we have got is
increasing supply, changing the | 3:03:39 | 3:03:43 | |
planning rules to allow buildings to
be built up so we can build more in | 3:03:43 | 3:03:47 | |
city centres around railway stations
and so on. Those are the policies | 3:03:47 | 3:03:50 | |
which will make the difference in
the long term. In the short-term, | 3:03:50 | 3:03:55 | |
there are those buyers in their 20s
and 30s who cannot get on the | 3:03:55 | 3:03:59 | |
housing ladder. I do think it is
real important we don't just look at | 3:03:59 | 3:04:02 | |
the long-term which is vital, we
help them out now with that issue. | 3:04:02 | 3:04:06 | |
This will give people up to £5,000
off their bill to be able to buy a | 3:04:06 | 3:04:12 | |
new home. I don't think we can just
ignore that and say let's wait until | 3:04:12 | 3:04:18 | |
we build Crossrail to, let's wait
until we have the new towns in | 3:04:18 | 3:04:22 | |
place, we do have to help people now
which is why it is important that we | 3:04:22 | 3:04:27 | |
do do this measure for the
short-term. Can I ask a little bit | 3:04:27 | 3:04:31 | |
about the Brexit effect? You have
had to commit more money. You said | 3:04:31 | 3:04:38 | |
1.5 billion for the next two years
which is £3 billion, almost the same | 3:04:38 | 3:04:43 | |
money you have committed to the NHS?
The OBR report they have just | 3:04:43 | 3:04:48 | |
brought out said since the
referendum, the pattern for GDP | 3:04:48 | 3:04:52 | |
growth is consistent with an adverse
shock to the economy's future | 3:04:52 | 3:04:56 | |
capacity. I wondered if you agreed
with that and the costs of the | 3:04:56 | 3:05:01 | |
Brexit issues are the really big
effect? You answered and about why | 3:05:01 | 3:05:06 | |
we are not growing quickly. The OBR
says one of the big issues is Brexit | 3:05:06 | 3:05:10 | |
and one of the big issues for you
for spending money is also Brexit. | 3:05:10 | 3:05:15 | |
We do have to spend that money
making sure we are prepared for all | 3:05:15 | 3:05:20 | |
eventualities. People want to know
we have the customs arrangements in | 3:05:20 | 3:05:23 | |
place at our ports, that our
regulatory authorities work when we | 3:05:23 | 3:05:28 | |
leave the European Union, regardless
of what the scenario is. It is | 3:05:28 | 3:05:31 | |
prudent that we put £3 billion aside
for doing that. His Cabinet | 3:05:31 | 3:05:38 | |
colleagues pressured him to do so.
That is and fair on the Chancellor. | 3:05:38 | 3:05:44 | |
He has already put 700 million aside
for Brexit preparation. That has | 3:05:44 | 3:05:48 | |
been given to departments and this
£3 billion is more money to be able | 3:05:48 | 3:05:52 | |
to do that. That is for any scenario
we have to go through, because | 3:05:52 | 3:05:56 | |
whatever the negotiations end up
with, we will have to look at | 3:05:56 | 3:05:59 | |
customs arrangements. On Kamal's
point... On this thing about | 3:05:59 | 3:06:10 | |
spending ahead of Brexit, the plan
was to have a bit of head room, | 3:06:10 | 3:06:14 | |
silly things went bad later down the
road and we had a bit of a problem, | 3:06:14 | 3:06:18 | |
there was a bit of a cutie left to
smooth the path. Has he spent that | 3:06:18 | 3:06:29 | |
today? -- there was a bit of a kick
the left -- we are spending on maths | 3:06:29 | 3:06:42 | |
and science to get people's skills
up in that area, huge number of | 3:06:42 | 3:06:47 | |
computer science teachers, really
important for new industries like | 3:06:47 | 3:06:51 | |
artificial intelligence. That is how
we will deal with the challenge of | 3:06:51 | 3:06:54 | |
leaving the European Union. We will
not deal with the challenge by | 3:06:54 | 3:07:00 | |
spending more money willy-nilly. We
are dealing with the challenge for | 3:07:00 | 3:07:03 | |
making us sit. You have talked about
how you stayed within the fiscal | 3:07:03 | 3:07:10 | |
rules. Two years ago you put the
balance of the housing associations | 3:07:10 | 3:07:13 | |
onto the national balance sheet so
it became part of our national debt. | 3:07:13 | 3:07:19 | |
This EU have moved them back onto
the balance sheet of the housing | 3:07:19 | 3:07:23 | |
associations. In, out, shake it all
about. If you had not done that, | 3:07:23 | 3:07:26 | |
would you have met your the school
rules? That was the decision by the | 3:07:26 | 3:07:32 | |
Office for National Statistics
because those are deemed to be | 3:07:32 | 3:07:36 | |
private sector organisations. Has
only two years ago it was on your | 3:07:36 | 3:07:39 | |
balance sheet. If that hadn't
happened, would you have stayed | 3:07:39 | 3:07:42 | |
within your fiscal rules? That is
not a relevant point because those | 3:07:42 | 3:07:47 | |
organisations are being treated as
private sector organisations. Only | 3:07:47 | 3:07:51 | |
two years ago you made them public.
That was a decision by the ONS based | 3:07:51 | 3:08:00 | |
on the activities of those
organisations. We have to go with | 3:08:00 | 3:08:03 | |
the ONS and the OBR on their
independent forecast. There is a | 3:08:03 | 3:08:05 | |
reason why the Treasury is not doing
the forecast and it is independent | 3:08:05 | 3:08:09 | |
organisations. We have to leave it
there which is a pity because we | 3:08:09 | 3:08:12 | |
have more to talk about. Thank you
to Liz Truss. We now say goodbye to | 3:08:12 | 3:08:19 | |
our viewers in Scotland.
Let's go back to Jo Coburn and get | 3:08:19 | 3:08:24 | |
reaction in Peterborough. Yes,
Andrew, I have been here watching | 3:08:24 | 3:08:30 | |
the Budget with employees and
businesses at Lawrence David, one of | 3:08:30 | 3:08:35 | |
the country's leading manufacturers
of lorry trailers. They have all | 3:08:35 | 3:08:38 | |
been busy at work while the Budget
has gone on. I will talk to two | 3:08:38 | 3:08:45 | |
people who run small businesses.
Philip Hammond the Chancellor | 3:08:45 | 3:08:47 | |
described you as the backbone of the
economy. Chuan Bass who makes | 3:08:47 | 3:08:55 | |
banners and Raj who runs a lakeside
cafe in Peterborough. -- Joanne | 3:08:55 | 3:09:00 | |
base. These were talked about in the
Budget -- business rates were talked | 3:09:00 | 3:09:09 | |
about in the Budget. Has this effect
did you at all? Not at all. What | 3:09:09 | 3:09:17 | |
would you have liked to have seen?
Cut in business rates and more | 3:09:17 | 3:09:24 | |
investment put back into businesses.
How much harder has it got for you | 3:09:24 | 3:09:27 | |
in the last year? Quite a lot
harder. With minimum wages | 3:09:27 | 3:09:35 | |
increasing and pensions coming in,
there are more stretched resources | 3:09:35 | 3:09:38 | |
which are available for small
businesses to put back into training | 3:09:38 | 3:09:42 | |
of staff to put in improvements and
increase productivity. What skills | 3:09:42 | 3:09:49 | |
do you need? There is a massive
shortage of sales skills in the UK, | 3:09:49 | 3:09:54 | |
good customer service. It is a
section which suffers. Raj, you run | 3:09:54 | 3:10:02 | |
a cafe so I assume the increase in
food prices affect the? Massively. | 3:10:02 | 3:10:08 | |
We already struggle in terms of the
delivery of our bottom line and with | 3:10:08 | 3:10:14 | |
the minimum wage going up and the
pension contribution going up next | 3:10:14 | 3:10:19 | |
year, it is affected even further.
It was quite disappointing to see | 3:10:19 | 3:10:23 | |
nothing there for small businesses
like myself today. We were also | 3:10:23 | 3:10:28 | |
hoping to see some sort of reduction
in VAT and hospitality which we have | 3:10:28 | 3:10:32 | |
been talking about for years and
years now. I am disappointed that | 3:10:32 | 3:10:36 | |
nothing has happened now. Are you
able to Budget in the way that you | 3:10:36 | 3:10:45 | |
would like to? Yes, we are small
company which is constantly | 3:10:45 | 3:10:49 | |
reinvesting money back into the
business. We will look for ways we | 3:10:49 | 3:10:52 | |
can cut money so we are more
sustainable. At the end of the date | 3:10:52 | 3:10:57 | |
is about sustainability. We have to
make sure it is a viable operation | 3:10:57 | 3:11:01 | |
to run. Thank you for your thoughts
on the businesses you run here in | 3:11:01 | 3:11:08 | |
Peterborough. Let's catch up on some
of the announcements that were made | 3:11:08 | 3:11:12 | |
which will affect people in terms of
their personal finances. Simon | 3:11:12 | 3:11:17 | |
Gompertz is down on the factory
floor. I will run down there in a | 3:11:17 | 3:11:21 | |
minute. Simon, over to you. Thank
you. Lots of comments and questions | 3:11:21 | 3:11:27 | |
coming in. Jerome says won't a stamp
duty holiday just a few house prices | 3:11:27 | 3:11:32 | |
rather than get houses built? A lot
of people have said that. One state | 3:11:32 | 3:11:37 | |
agent says he | 3:11:37 | 3:11:48 | |
advises people to get their deals
done quickly, before prices start | 3:11:49 | 3:11:51 | |
rising, before this stamp duty
abolition effect kicks in. Susie | 3:11:51 | 3:11:53 | |
Turnbull says our son is a
first-time buyer buying a flat in | 3:11:53 | 3:11:55 | |
North London for £520,000. Will he
benefit from this damp duty | 3:11:55 | 3:12:00 | |
abolition? You get on £300,000
purchase for a home up to £500,000. | 3:12:00 | 3:12:06 | |
It does not look good. You will have
to check the details for yourselves. | 3:12:06 | 3:12:11 | |
Yvonne in London says why haven't
benefits been increased? The freeze | 3:12:11 | 3:12:16 | |
continues. That is a subtext in this
Budget not mentioned. The Chancellor | 3:12:16 | 3:12:21 | |
would say he has done something to
help people claiming Universal | 3:12:21 | 3:12:24 | |
Credit to get the money more
quickly. Keep the questions coming | 3:12:24 | 3:12:29 | |
in to have your say at
bbc.co.uk/budget. Jo. Lets talk more | 3:12:29 | 3:12:40 | |
broadly about cost of living issues.
Because of inflation they say will | 3:12:40 | 3:12:44 | |
peak at 3% and come down next year,
but what is the effect on people? We | 3:12:44 | 3:12:50 | |
have had an economy growing slowly,
wages not going up as much as people | 3:12:50 | 3:12:54 | |
would like. The effect is our money
does not going far -- them affected | 3:12:54 | 3:13:01 | |
our money does not go as far. Our
only hope is inflation starts to | 3:13:01 | 3:13:08 | |
come down. Price increases are not
so high over the next couple of | 3:13:08 | 3:13:11 | |
years. We might feel better off
because of that and there is help as | 3:13:11 | 3:13:15 | |
well in the Budget because of this.
The Government is going ahead with | 3:13:15 | 3:13:19 | |
the increase in personal allowance,
the amount you can earn before you | 3:13:19 | 3:13:23 | |
start paying tax. That is going up
to £11,800. A little bit of help | 3:13:23 | 3:13:29 | |
will hopefully help people along.
Simon Gompertz, thank you. That is | 3:13:29 | 3:13:38 | |
it from us on the factory floor but
we will be back with more people to | 3:13:38 | 3:13:41 | |
talk to with their reaction to the
statement. Andrew. Thank you. Let's | 3:13:41 | 3:13:44 | |
go back to Jane Hill on College
Green. | 3:13:44 | 3:13:47 | |
Thank you. Let's get the views of
the TUC and the Institute of | 3:13:47 | 3:13:51 | |
directors from everything we have
heard from Philip Hammond. We can | 3:13:51 | 3:13:57 | |
welcome the assistant secretary of
the TUC and the Institute of | 3:13:57 | 3:14:06 | |
directors. There is a little bit
about nurses pay. What is your take | 3:14:06 | 3:14:11 | |
on that? One of the key tests was
would the Chancellor deliver a pay | 3:14:11 | 3:14:18 | |
rise for Britain path that workers
and the public sector workers. I | 3:14:18 | 3:14:20 | |
must have missed most of the
announcements because he dropped | 3:14:20 | 3:14:23 | |
some hints about what might happen
in the NHS but the reality is what | 3:14:23 | 3:14:27 | |
we needed was a pay rise for all of
Britain's public sector workers who | 3:14:27 | 3:14:31 | |
have had seven years in real terms
pay cuts. Unfortunately, it means | 3:14:31 | 3:14:37 | |
public sector workers will face
another year of falling living | 3:14:37 | 3:14:40 | |
standards and another hit on their
pay packets. There is extra money | 3:14:40 | 3:14:44 | |
for the NHS. There is an immediate
lump sum for winter brochures and a | 3:14:44 | 3:14:50 | |
big slump in terms of capital
expenditure. Is that to be welcomed? | 3:14:50 | 3:14:56 | |
-- there is a big amount in terms of
capital expenditure. I think we need | 3:14:56 | 3:15:06 | |
to get into the detail. For me we
have 4 million hard-working public | 3:15:06 | 3:15:10 | |
servants who will face another year
of falling living standards and that | 3:15:10 | 3:15:13 | |
is not good enough from the
Chancellor. We know public sector | 3:15:13 | 3:15:17 | |
workers work as part of a team. It
does not matter if you are a nurse, | 3:15:17 | 3:15:22 | |
teacher, a classroom assistant or
people supporting elderly people, | 3:15:22 | 3:15:25 | |
people were expecting a pay rise and
the Chancellor has let them down. | 3:15:25 | 3:15:37 | |
Was talk about devolution positive?
It was positive. He mentioned | 3:15:37 | 3:15:42 | |
Northern Ireland and Scotland and
Wales that is good news for members | 3:15:42 | 3:15:46 | |
that we would like to see more than
words, we would like to see whether | 3:15:46 | 3:15:49 | |
money is spent and what it will do
to productivity and growth. In terms | 3:15:49 | 3:15:55 | |
of productivity and growth, not
positive news from the OBR when we | 3:15:55 | 3:16:00 | |
look into the next few years. The
statistics looking forward are | 3:16:00 | 3:16:05 | |
weaker than the Bank of England
declared recently and it is a worry | 3:16:05 | 3:16:09 | |
because we need improve productivity
to catch up with colleagues in the | 3:16:09 | 3:16:14 | |
G7 and make sure we can create jobs
and wealth needed to provide more | 3:16:14 | 3:16:18 | |
employment. I would echo that but
there is a danger the government | 3:16:18 | 3:16:24 | |
gives with one hand and takes away
with another and at the same time | 3:16:24 | 3:16:28 | |
the Chancellor talks about funding
the Northern Powerhouse, in my city, | 3:16:28 | 3:16:33 | |
Liverpool, it is getting £330
million a year less from government | 3:16:33 | 3:16:37 | |
than in 2010 and that is not
alleviating pressures in public | 3:16:37 | 3:16:42 | |
services so any investment in public
infrastructure is good. We are | 3:16:42 | 3:16:47 | |
behind the OECD average. Even with
the announcement today. Not enough | 3:16:47 | 3:16:52 | |
to give us the confidence we need
going into the Brexit process. Is | 3:16:52 | 3:16:58 | |
this a budget that makes this
country Brexit ready? I would say in | 3:16:58 | 3:17:04 | |
a short no, because this was an
important budget to make big | 3:17:04 | 3:17:08 | |
announcements of the bold because
this is effectively the last budget | 3:17:08 | 3:17:13 | |
until Brexit day. The next one will
be too late to increase business | 3:17:13 | 3:17:18 | |
confidence and encourage them to go
out and invest and implored people | 3:17:18 | 3:17:21 | |
and there was not enough for
business to go out there and | 3:17:21 | 3:17:26 | |
increase confidence. Business wanted
a steady as she goes budget, did | 3:17:26 | 3:17:33 | |
they get that? By and large, he did
not score any own goals and did not | 3:17:33 | 3:17:42 | |
go backwards in that sense but it
did not move enough forward in terms | 3:17:42 | 3:17:47 | |
of how we tackle challenges of the
21st century, productivity, skills | 3:17:47 | 3:17:53 | |
gap, training. Not enough detail on
that. In housing, £44 billion was | 3:17:53 | 3:17:58 | |
mentioned but we would be interested
to see what that equates to. Steady | 3:17:58 | 3:18:04 | |
as she goes was not good enough for
this budget and the millions we | 3:18:04 | 3:18:09 | |
represent, for working people and
families and communities who see pay | 3:18:09 | 3:18:13 | |
packets stagnating again. We have
had a squeeze on living standards | 3:18:13 | 3:18:17 | |
the past few years this was not an
ambitious budget and did not deliver | 3:18:17 | 3:18:22 | |
for working people. When we look
future figures, every department, | 3:18:22 | 3:18:30 | |
every minister will be wanting more
money for their department and | 3:18:30 | 3:18:33 | |
everyone would like to see different
sectors of the community benefit but | 3:18:33 | 3:18:37 | |
if the money and productivity is not
there, how much room for manoeuvre | 3:18:37 | 3:18:42 | |
does he have? This is linked. This
is why he needed to invest more in | 3:18:42 | 3:18:50 | |
infrastructure. We estimated the
public sector pay cap has sucked | 3:18:50 | 3:18:54 | |
billions out of the UK economy this
year alone. The people we represent | 3:18:54 | 3:18:59 | |
in schools, hospitals, councils,
when they get a pay rise they spend | 3:18:59 | 3:19:04 | |
it in the local economy, they do not
squirrel it in an offshore account | 3:19:04 | 3:19:10 | |
that money has been sucked out when
we needed it. I think the budget, he | 3:19:10 | 3:19:16 | |
dipped his toe in the water but did
not make a big enough splash for | 3:19:16 | 3:19:20 | |
business. All right. Thank you. Back
to you, Andrew. | 3:19:20 | 3:19:29 | |
We can go through some of the main
measures again and get some more | 3:19:29 | 3:19:34 | |
analysis. The main measures, the
headline measure, the popular papers | 3:19:34 | 3:19:39 | |
will concentrate on, stamp duty
abolished for first-time buyers of | 3:19:39 | 3:19:45 | |
properties up to £300,000, £300,000
is above average outside London and | 3:19:45 | 3:19:52 | |
the south-east so many may benefit
from that. Sellers will also | 3:19:52 | 3:19:58 | |
benefit. 2.8 billion extra resource
funding in NHS England for winter | 3:19:58 | 3:20:04 | |
and the next two years. Sounds a lot
but not what the NHS asked for. | 3:20:04 | 3:20:09 | |
Quite a bit less. | 3:20:09 | 3:20:10 | |
but not what the NHS asked for.
Quite a bit less. Additional funding | 3:20:10 | 3:20:12 | |
on top | 3:20:12 | 3:20:14 | |
Quite a bit less. Additional funding
on top of that will be provided when | 3:20:14 | 3:20:17 | |
a new pay deal is agreed with NHS
staff. The pay cap is now dead and | 3:20:17 | 3:20:24 | |
buried in the NHS and other parts of
the public sector. Other main | 3:20:24 | 3:20:30 | |
measures, the maximum wait for
Universal Credit will be reduced to | 3:20:30 | 3:20:37 | |
five weeks. Changes in the
introduction, quite expensive, he | 3:20:37 | 3:20:41 | |
had to find 1.5 billion to ease the
introduction of this welfare | 3:20:41 | 3:20:46 | |
payment. That is one of the changes
he is able to make. He says 300,000 | 3:20:46 | 3:20:52 | |
additional homes in England each
year by the mid-2020s and the figure | 3:20:52 | 3:20:57 | |
is already just over 200,000 that he
wants to reach 300,000 by the | 3:20:57 | 3:21:02 | |
mid-2020s, which might mean it will
take a while to get planning changes | 3:21:02 | 3:21:08 | |
through and it takes awhile to get
consent and infrastructure in place. | 3:21:08 | 3:21:13 | |
The Tories know they are not popular
among young people, they have | 3:21:13 | 3:21:20 | |
extended the Railcard. 26-30. I am
sure young people will now be | 3:21:20 | 3:21:27 | |
flocking to the Tory banner on that,
by train, of course! He has frozen | 3:21:27 | 3:21:32 | |
fuel duty another year and
Chancellor is now do that every | 3:21:32 | 3:21:36 | |
year. It has ceased to be a way of
the Treasury raising additional | 3:21:36 | 3:21:42 | |
revenue. The macro economic picture
in which this budget has been drawn | 3:21:42 | 3:21:45 | |
up is not exciting. In places it is
grim. Economic growth downgraded the | 3:21:45 | 3:21:52 | |
next five years and each year,
including this year, at no stage | 3:21:52 | 3:21:57 | |
does the economy get close to
growing at 2% says the OBR, but it | 3:21:57 | 3:22:01 | |
could be wrong. Borrowing is to fall
in each of the next five years but | 3:22:01 | 3:22:07 | |
it does not follow the same rate the
Chancellor contemplated even in | 3:22:07 | 3:22:11 | |
March, so by 22-23 we will still
borrow around 26 billion. The | 3:22:11 | 3:22:19 | |
government wants us to focus on not
this annual deficit, it is not a big | 3:22:19 | 3:22:25 | |
percentage of GDP, not reaching
surplus, it is that our overall | 3:22:25 | 3:22:31 | |
national debt, the government
believes, is peaking and in this | 3:22:31 | 3:22:38 | |
financial year of 2017-18 and
thereafter begins to come down. Not | 3:22:38 | 3:22:41 | |
in absolute terms. It will probably
head towards close to two trillion | 3:22:41 | 3:22:48 | |
at some stage but as a percentage of
the national economy it begins to | 3:22:48 | 3:22:52 | |
come down and the Treasury thinks it
is significant and will keep the | 3:22:52 | 3:22:56 | |
bond markets happy and it is the
bond markets that lend us money to | 3:22:56 | 3:23:01 | |
pay for all this spending we did not
finance by tax. The OBR said there | 3:23:01 | 3:23:06 | |
would be another 600,000 people in
work by 2022. Laura, bless you. | 3:23:06 | 3:23:15 | |
Thank you. I was sneezing off
microphone. The nation heard! I | 3:23:15 | 3:23:22 | |
bless you. What further political
thoughts? As we expected before | 3:23:22 | 3:23:27 | |
Philip Hammond got up onto his feet
that we saw what we were predicting, | 3:23:27 | 3:23:33 | |
no giant strides that were supposed
to reboot the government but | 3:23:33 | 3:23:38 | |
tiptoeing around potential banana
skin is making small steps in terms | 3:23:38 | 3:23:42 | |
of economic concern and political
concern. I think this will not be a | 3:23:42 | 3:23:48 | |
game changer because it does not
seem there are any things that could | 3:23:48 | 3:23:52 | |
prove to be a total disaster that
the Chancellor will have to | 3:23:52 | 3:23:56 | |
unpicked. Nor does it seem the kind
of event that will dramatically | 3:23:56 | 3:24:02 | |
change the conversation around
Westminster, giving the government | 3:24:02 | 3:24:05 | |
more confidence about their
position. That said, from the | 3:24:05 | 3:24:09 | |
Treasury and other politicians in
the government I have been speaking | 3:24:09 | 3:24:14 | |
to, their aim was not to ruffle
feathers and get this through | 3:24:14 | 3:24:18 | |
safely. I would watch out for
grumbles about the stamp duty idea. | 3:24:18 | 3:24:24 | |
Clearly it will help people who
already have property and I | 3:24:24 | 3:24:29 | |
understand from the figures buried
in here it will only in theory fund | 3:24:29 | 3:24:34 | |
an additional 3000 purchases. Not
great shakes. 3000, that is it? Not | 3:24:34 | 3:24:41 | |
great shakes if that was his
defining mission Bert 15 billion of | 3:24:41 | 3:24:45 | |
new money overall over the next few
years of a package of measures. It | 3:24:45 | 3:24:50 | |
is usually at this time in budget
specials we find something that they | 3:24:50 | 3:24:57 | |
result in the budget unravelling.
Have we done that? This is where the | 3:24:57 | 3:25:04 | |
stamp duty policy, there might be
rumbles. I do not think we will see | 3:25:04 | 3:25:10 | |
a grand unravelling. Liz Truss
defended it robustly. She knows it | 3:25:10 | 3:25:15 | |
is popular on the backbenches. It
will grab headlines and make the | 3:25:15 | 3:25:20 | |
Tory party happy in parts. Simon,
any unravelling? I am worried about | 3:25:20 | 3:25:26 | |
business rates. The community
calling for that so business rates | 3:25:26 | 3:25:31 | |
will go up by the lower inflation
measure but they said they will | 3:25:31 | 3:25:36 | |
devalue every three years. That is
good but it does not give people an | 3:25:36 | 3:25:41 | |
incentive to invest to unlock the
productivity problem. If I have a | 3:25:41 | 3:25:46 | |
property and put new plant in, I
increase its rateable value and end | 3:25:46 | 3:25:52 | |
up paying more business rates and
there were calls to try to exempt | 3:25:52 | 3:25:56 | |
any additional investment from that
and every three years you could see | 3:25:56 | 3:26:00 | |
people paying higher business rates
sooner. What is interesting, with | 3:26:00 | 3:26:09 | |
all budgets, of the dogs that did
not bark. Nothing around benefits | 3:26:09 | 3:26:14 | |
beyond the issue of Universal
Credit. And nothing about social | 3:26:14 | 3:26:20 | |
care, which was supposedly alongside
housing the big mission of this | 3:26:20 | 3:26:24 | |
government. It was on that issue
that Mrs May effectively lost the | 3:26:24 | 3:26:30 | |
election. The other issue, which
talks to what Simon raised with Liz | 3:26:30 | 3:26:35 | |
Truss, the idea that if the economy
takes further terms for the worse | 3:26:35 | 3:26:40 | |
and certainly the OBR suggests the
Brexit process could be a | 3:26:40 | 3:26:46 | |
significant adverse economic shock,
what Headroom is there left for the | 3:26:46 | 3:26:53 | |
Chancellor, given he has now
expanded the amount he is allowing | 3:26:53 | 3:26:57 | |
the public finances to borrow over
the next five years already, at this | 3:26:57 | 3:27:01 | |
early stage in this cycle in these
tough negotiations and they may be | 3:27:01 | 3:27:07 | |
more positive than many believe, but
if there is a significant possible | 3:27:07 | 3:27:12 | |
adverse shock as the OBR suggests,
has Mr Hammond put all his money | 3:27:12 | 3:27:18 | |
upfront now, because of the
political pressure he faces, but | 3:27:18 | 3:27:24 | |
actually, in three years, he will be
thinking, it is looking there. | 3:27:24 | 3:27:28 | |
We are going to say goodbye to the
BBC News channel now. We continue | 3:27:33 | 3:27:41 | |
with this Budget Special on BBC Two.
The risk of the Chancellor is taking | 3:27:41 | 3:27:46 | |
is that although the bond markets
that provide the borrowing would | 3:27:46 | 3:27:51 | |
take these deficits changes in its
stride, nevertheless, our | 3:27:51 | 3:27:56 | |
accumulated national debt comes to
88% of GDP. If it starts to fall, | 3:27:56 | 3:28:03 | |
the bond markets will take comfort.
If we were to hit another recession, | 3:28:03 | 3:28:10 | |
with our national debt at 88% of GDP
and the deficit sizeable it is a | 3:28:10 | 3:28:17 | |
risk. It is and in terms of the
length of time this has taken to | 3:28:17 | 3:28:23 | |
fix, I remember it was a proper nerd
memory it was when Alistair Darling | 3:28:23 | 3:28:31 | |
stood up in the 2009 budget, saying
national debt will peak at 89% of | 3:28:31 | 3:28:39 | |
GDP in 2013. We are so far on from
when debt was meant and George | 3:28:39 | 3:28:48 | |
Osborne's policies forgotten about,
even though it was a central mission | 3:28:48 | 3:28:54 | |
when they came to power in coalition
in 2010 and number 11 in terms of | 3:28:54 | 3:29:00 | |
briefings have been explicit, the
new money from housing and | 3:29:00 | 3:29:03 | |
infrastructure comes from the
Headroom, from the 26 billion he | 3:29:03 | 3:29:08 | |
kept back. It used to be the
Treasury would say, OK, we believe | 3:29:08 | 3:29:15 | |
in number 11 and Brexit might be
rough but never fear, because Philip | 3:29:15 | 3:29:20 | |
Hammond has put aside 26 billion.
That is not there. We are not alone. | 3:29:20 | 3:29:26 | |
France. I need to move on to say we
not alone because the European | 3:29:26 | 3:29:32 | |
Commission has ticked off France and
Italy for running deficits bigger | 3:29:32 | 3:29:37 | |
than promised. Interesting. The US
deficit is rising and could rise | 3:29:37 | 3:29:42 | |
more after Mr Trump's tax reforms.
We can go back to Jo in | 3:29:42 | 3:29:53 | |
Peterborough. | 3:29:53 | 3:29:59 | |
Yes, hello from a leading
manufacturer of trailers for | 3:29:59 | 3:30:06 | |
lorries. Housing was supposed to be
the centrepiece of this Budget and | 3:30:06 | 3:30:10 | |
perhaps it was, but not as radical
as people were expecting. Let's chew | 3:30:10 | 3:30:13 | |
over some of the things the
Chancellor proposed. I'm here with | 3:30:13 | 3:30:22 | |
Lance Hick. One of the things he
announced was a review, rather than | 3:30:22 | 3:30:27 | |
forced intervention on developers
who are hoarding land. Many people | 3:30:27 | 3:30:31 | |
will say people should be forced to
giving up land if they are forced | 3:30:31 | 3:30:37 | |
the macro sitting on it. The problem
is many developers, it can take six | 3:30:37 | 3:30:47 | |
to eight years to develop planning
legislation so they hold land. World | 3:30:47 | 3:30:57 | |
the threat of a compulsory purchase
may people start building on the | 3:30:57 | 3:31:01 | |
land they have planning permission
for? It may help but most companies | 3:31:01 | 3:31:06 | |
other than the big nationals cannot
get the big finance to deliver any | 3:31:06 | 3:31:10 | |
more. People like me who do about
400 year, we have finance to do a | 3:31:10 | 3:31:14 | |
bit more but we could not do any
more with the financial system we | 3:31:14 | 3:31:18 | |
had, so only the big top nationals
would get the funding. I cannot get | 3:31:18 | 3:31:25 | |
that funding. Philip Hammond talked
about 300,000 new homes the year by | 3:31:25 | 3:31:29 | |
the mid-20 20s. That seems a long
way off when there is a chronic | 3:31:29 | 3:31:33 | |
housing shortage now. Is it doable?
My view would be, it is a noble | 3:31:33 | 3:31:43 | |
number, it is a necessary number,
but because of Brexit and the fact | 3:31:43 | 3:31:46 | |
that a lot of the EU nationals have
gone home and a lot will not be | 3:31:46 | 3:31:49 | |
coming here, there was a chronic
shortage of skilled labour. We will | 3:31:49 | 3:31:54 | |
implement some of the training
initiatives but they will take ten | 3:31:54 | 3:31:57 | |
years to come through. The problem
will be the fact we have left | 3:31:57 | 3:32:00 | |
Brexit, if there are not EU
nationals round, there will be | 3:32:00 | 3:32:07 | |
massive labour problems where in
London construction is 50% down. | 3:32:07 | 3:32:12 | |
Carl Hick, thank you. Another issue
to be addressed was proposals to hit | 3:32:12 | 3:32:17 | |
millennials because young people
felt they were hard hit in the | 3:32:17 | 3:32:20 | |
election with many in that age
bracket backing Labour. Simon | 3:32:20 | 3:32:27 | |
Gompertz is still on the factory
floor. Yes, down here with the | 3:32:27 | 3:32:33 | |
trucks and vans. For millennials,
the big thing was the abolition of | 3:32:33 | 3:32:37 | |
stamp duty which will benefit the
vast majority of home-buyers who are | 3:32:37 | 3:32:42 | |
first-time buyers. The other thing I
noticed, that is the new Railcard | 3:32:42 | 3:32:47 | |
for the 26 to 30 S macro. Beyond
that, not a great deal. That had | 3:32:47 | 3:32:54 | |
been talk of better treatment in the
income taxes. That has not come | 3:32:54 | 3:32:59 | |
through so I think some will be
disappointed. We are getting a lot | 3:32:59 | 3:33:04 | |
of questions about the abolition of
stamp duty for first-time buyers, | 3:33:04 | 3:33:08 | |
particularly for people who have
just bought. Mark Chapman said via | 3:33:08 | 3:33:12 | |
Twitter, just a thought for all
those first-time buyers who | 3:33:12 | 3:33:16 | |
completed yesterday. Ian Ford says,
can my back claim it? Emma from | 3:33:16 | 3:33:21 | |
Liverpool said we completed our
purchase just a month ago after | 3:33:21 | 3:33:27 | |
years of saving and working extra
hours, devastated is not the word. | 3:33:27 | 3:33:31 | |
Laura Gilroy said we did it last
week. Is there anyway we can get | 3:33:31 | 3:33:36 | |
this money? This is how it works. It
is £300,000 which is exempt for | 3:33:36 | 3:33:42 | |
first-time buyers, that feeds you up
to £5,000 and 1600 average and up to | 3:33:42 | 3:33:49 | |
5500. Above 500 you don't get any
more and it applies from today, | 3:33:49 | 3:34:00 | |
sorry about that. The backdrop to
this statement and the Chancellor's | 3:34:00 | 3:34:05 | |
Budget is Brexit. He did announce a
£3 billion pot for preparations for | 3:34:05 | 3:34:11 | |
Brexit. That is a significant
increase on what had been talked | 3:34:11 | 3:34:14 | |
about. We can talk to Leslie
Batchelor from the Institute for | 3:34:14 | 3:34:20 | |
export and international trade. Do
you think that is enough? I hope so. | 3:34:20 | 3:34:26 | |
We have to start talking about
border controls and looking at new | 3:34:26 | 3:34:30 | |
software if we want to look a
vehicle recognition plates and we | 3:34:30 | 3:34:33 | |
will have to think about more lorry
parks for where we will store them | 3:34:33 | 3:34:37 | |
when they are waiting to be cleared
through customs so it is a big | 3:34:37 | 3:34:43 | |
project. What about trade in the
future? Are you optimistic about | 3:34:43 | 3:34:48 | |
that or worried? I am a little
worried that we are not preparing | 3:34:48 | 3:34:51 | |
for it very well. Businesses are not
finding out about international | 3:34:51 | 3:34:56 | |
trade. We are running courses and
educational programmes. We want | 3:34:56 | 3:35:01 | |
people to understand there are a lot
of implications. But presumably with | 3:35:01 | 3:35:11 | |
the downgrading of the pound it has
helped? It has indeed but my problem | 3:35:11 | 3:35:16 | |
is selling an price is a bad thing
if you want a sustained market. You | 3:35:16 | 3:35:20 | |
really have to be selling on quality
and value. Lesley Batchelor, thank | 3:35:20 | 3:35:25 | |
you very much.
Back to you, Andrew. Thank you. | 3:35:25 | 3:35:31 | |
Let's speak to the leader of the
Liberal Democrats, Vince Cable. He | 3:35:31 | 3:35:35 | |
is on College Green. Welcome to the
programme. Mr Hammond has loosened | 3:35:35 | 3:35:40 | |
his belt. He is not going in for
extreme deficit reduction cutting | 3:35:40 | 3:35:45 | |
any more, it looks like he has given
up the idea of a surplus. You must | 3:35:45 | 3:35:50 | |
welcome all of the above? I think
all of the above is sensible and we | 3:35:50 | 3:35:56 | |
have seen the massive constraints he
is labouring under, the cost of | 3:35:56 | 3:35:59 | |
Brexit and the high levels of
government debt and above all, the | 3:35:59 | 3:36:04 | |
slowdown in productivity. I think
the key problem in the Budget which | 3:36:04 | 3:36:07 | |
was not of his constraint --
creation, Brexit limits what he can | 3:36:07 | 3:36:16 | |
do. There were some sensible things
and some less sensible. Is the | 3:36:16 | 3:36:23 | |
slowdown in your view nearly all
Brexit related, or is it as the OBR | 3:36:23 | 3:36:28 | |
seems to suggest, also to do with
our pretty poor record and | 3:36:28 | 3:36:32 | |
productivity growth in recent years,
which the OBR over estimated now | 3:36:32 | 3:36:36 | |
catching up with us? The
productivity issue is very serious. | 3:36:36 | 3:36:42 | |
It is probably one of the long-term
legacies of the financial crisis. We | 3:36:42 | 3:36:47 | |
have had long periods in which
business has not invested and we | 3:36:47 | 3:36:53 | |
have not had benefit of new
technology and skills, but looking | 3:36:53 | 3:36:57 | |
forwards, Brexit, the uncertainties
around it and the impact of that is | 3:36:57 | 3:37:01 | |
dragging us down. You are right, the
underlying problem is the | 3:37:01 | 3:37:05 | |
productivity problem is very
serious. I do welcome some of the | 3:37:05 | 3:37:09 | |
things in the Budget around the
industrial strategy and more funding | 3:37:09 | 3:37:13 | |
for high-growth industries, that is
all good stuff and it is a | 3:37:13 | 3:37:16 | |
continuation of what I and my
colleagues were doing in the | 3:37:16 | 3:37:19 | |
coalition. You say business has not
invested, but annual business | 3:37:19 | 3:37:26 | |
investment in 2010, as the crash was
still overhanging the British | 3:37:26 | 3:37:30 | |
economy, you will know well, you
were in government then, it was £143 | 3:37:30 | 3:37:36 | |
billion of business investment. Last
year it was almost £180 billion and | 3:37:36 | 3:37:40 | |
it rose every year. So business has
continued to invest? I think far | 3:37:40 | 3:37:46 | |
below the level that was needed to
get us out of this productivity | 3:37:46 | 3:37:50 | |
problem. Back in 2010, you will
remember the banks were simply not | 3:37:50 | 3:37:55 | |
lending which is why I helped set up
the business bank with my colleagues | 3:37:55 | 3:38:00 | |
and we had to do a whole lot of
emergency things. Whatever business | 3:38:00 | 3:38:05 | |
investment is taking place is
welcomed, but it is not on the scale | 3:38:05 | 3:38:09 | |
that is necessary. I think the big
story underlined in this Budget is | 3:38:09 | 3:38:12 | |
the slowdown in growth, the
uncertainty. The word uncertainty I | 3:38:12 | 3:38:18 | |
think of code word for Brexit.
Nobody knows quite what will happen. | 3:38:18 | 3:38:21 | |
The effects of this is dragging the
economy down in all kinds of | 3:38:21 | 3:38:26 | |
different ways. Is at the symbolism
of the Budget in your view that it | 3:38:26 | 3:38:30 | |
represents the end of austerity? I
know that many people will still | 3:38:30 | 3:38:35 | |
feel austerity, that is not in
doubt. But in terms of the | 3:38:35 | 3:38:39 | |
Government ever tightening its belt,
has that cycle now come to an" Mac I | 3:38:39 | 3:38:44 | |
don't think it has. If you look at
the line in the Budget which relates | 3:38:44 | 3:38:48 | |
to current spending, not investment,
virtually no growth at all and that | 3:38:48 | 3:38:56 | |
has got to incorporate public sector
pay increases. Public sector | 3:38:56 | 3:39:02 | |
spending, which I think most people
-- which I think is what most people | 3:39:02 | 3:39:07 | |
mean by austerities squeezed. If you
took a living standards, the basic | 3:39:07 | 3:39:11 | |
story is the average individual will
be £700 a week worse off at the end | 3:39:11 | 3:39:16 | |
of this Parliament, compared with
the expectations which were in the | 3:39:16 | 3:39:20 | |
forecast before the election. And we
have had wage stagnation for over | 3:39:20 | 3:39:26 | |
ten years. Real wages are lower than
they were in 2007, and it is not | 3:39:26 | 3:39:33 | |
clear unless I have missed
something, that if you look at the | 3:39:33 | 3:39:36 | |
forecast going forward at the end of
the decade, that that wage | 3:39:36 | 3:39:40 | |
stagnation will come to an" Mac no,
it isn't, and it is this combination | 3:39:40 | 3:39:45 | |
which you quite rightly point out,
low levels of productivity, very | 3:39:45 | 3:39:50 | |
slow levels combined with a slowing
economy. There is some relief which | 3:39:50 | 3:40:04 | |
does provide some relief in terms of
take-home pay but wages will | 3:40:04 | 3:40:08 | |
continue to be squeezed on this
forecast. Thank you for joining us | 3:40:08 | 3:40:14 | |
on this BBC Budget special. The
Government is taking a hammering for | 3:40:14 | 3:40:18 | |
this in the run-up to the Budget, Mr
Corbyn raised it several times, his | 3:40:18 | 3:40:24 | |
own backbenchers, some of them were
rebelling on the issue complaining | 3:40:24 | 3:40:28 | |
he has found £1.5 billion, what has
he done with that to ameliorate? He | 3:40:28 | 3:40:35 | |
has done a variety of different
things. One is to get rid of the | 3:40:35 | 3:40:38 | |
seven-day weight when you first make
a claim, the other thing he has done | 3:40:38 | 3:40:43 | |
his length in the period claims will
have to pay back in advance. Part of | 3:40:43 | 3:40:48 | |
the Universal Credit system if you
have no money during the period from | 3:40:48 | 3:40:52 | |
when you change from one benefit to
another, you could ask for an | 3:40:52 | 3:40:56 | |
advance, basically alone from the
Government. Then there was a | 3:40:56 | 3:40:59 | |
complaint that people did not have
long to pay that back. There is a | 3:40:59 | 3:41:13 | |
mixture of issues which have
pacified the Tory rebels. Heidi | 3:41:13 | 3:41:18 | |
Allen is an outspoken critic and
this seems to have gone away. I | 3:41:18 | 3:41:32 | |
would not be surprised if there were
more problems along the line. The | 3:41:32 | 3:41:37 | |
other thing I would say is you are
raising the Vince Cable, the squeeze | 3:41:37 | 3:41:43 | |
on other bits of government
certainly has not disappeared. | 3:41:43 | 3:41:51 | |
To make room for capital spending
they had to continue to squeeze. The | 3:41:51 | 3:41:56 | |
squeeze on police budgets, local
government, squeezes on spending of | 3:41:56 | 3:42:01 | |
this government that had been set
out in previous years have not | 3:42:01 | 3:42:06 | |
disappeared, just because the
Chancellor has eased up a bit on | 3:42:06 | 3:42:10 | |
what is to come in the next couple
of years. Many government | 3:42:10 | 3:42:15 | |
departments who spend money on the
ground around the country still feel | 3:42:15 | 3:42:19 | |
under massive pressure to be able to
deliver the savings they were going | 3:42:19 | 3:42:23 | |
to have to do. The cuts have not
gone away just because Philip | 3:42:23 | 3:42:28 | |
Hammond made the decision to ease
off the squeeze in coming years and | 3:42:28 | 3:42:36 | |
had he wanted to do something more
radical, whatever the bond markets | 3:42:36 | 3:42:42 | |
might have said about it if he
wanted to borrow more money today he | 3:42:42 | 3:42:47 | |
could've done it. He could have done
it, borrowed more and the bond | 3:42:47 | 3:42:51 | |
markets would take it in their
stride. Possibly in the short-term | 3:42:51 | 3:42:56 | |
but that builds pressure into the
system. Debt repayments will go up | 3:42:56 | 3:43:01 | |
after this budget. They are also
already going up because of higher | 3:43:01 | 3:43:09 | |
inflation and interest rates. Every
time the bank of England raises | 3:43:09 | 3:43:13 | |
interest rates it increases the cost
for government debt to service the | 3:43:13 | 3:43:16 | |
debt so that is a pressure. Although
politically he could get away with | 3:43:16 | 3:43:20 | |
it, I think he is concerned given
the possible Brexit cost, not | 3:43:20 | 3:43:27 | |
increasing the amount of debt
servicing costs. Simon, on this | 3:43:27 | 3:43:34 | |
business investment front, the
annual figures look impressive, | 3:43:34 | 3:43:39 | |
about 10% of GDP, but it is not
sparkling in recent years, going | 3:43:39 | 3:43:47 | |
through the roof at a time of
continuous growth. If you are a | 3:43:47 | 3:43:52 | |
businessman and you think 1.5%
growth this year, 1.3 next and the | 3:43:52 | 3:43:57 | |
year after, that would not encourage
you to invest. You would not say | 3:43:57 | 3:44:01 | |
that is an economy I want exposure
to. That is right. The business | 3:44:01 | 3:44:07 | |
investment story has not been bad
over the past couple of months but | 3:44:07 | 3:44:11 | |
the foreign direct investment in the
UK that provides economic growth and | 3:44:11 | 3:44:15 | |
jobs. And a lot of productivity,
they are the most productive | 3:44:15 | 3:44:21 | |
investors, the foreign investments,
that has fallen off a bit of a cliff | 3:44:21 | 3:44:25 | |
in the last six months which is
Brexit related. What people were | 3:44:25 | 3:44:30 | |
looking to having to do today, can
you inoculate business against | 3:44:30 | 3:44:35 | |
Brexiteers? The answer is no. Did he
mess up? No, he missed banana skins | 3:44:35 | 3:44:41 | |
of VAT. Like you say we cannot over
estimate and the Economist cannot | 3:44:41 | 3:44:53 | |
over emphasise the productivity
problem which is acute, worse in | 3:44:53 | 3:44:56 | |
this country than others and we have
put in money and we have 23 billion, | 3:44:56 | 3:45:02 | |
31 billion investment fund. On these
numbers, you are going to chuck that | 3:45:02 | 3:45:07 | |
money and hope something happens.
Let's go back on the ground to | 3:45:07 | 3:45:10 | |
Peterborough. | 3:45:10 | 3:45:17 | |
Lets get some reaction to the
downgrading of the growth forecast. | 3:45:17 | 3:45:23 | |
The company I am with talk earlier
about wanting to boost productivity. | 3:45:23 | 3:45:28 | |
We will talk to Jonathan Todd and
from Opportunity Peterborough we | 3:45:28 | 3:45:33 | |
will talk to Steve Beria. Was there
anything in the Budget which said | 3:45:33 | 3:45:50 | |
you liked? We were disappointed.
There was nothing which will give us | 3:45:50 | 3:45:54 | |
confidence which will help us boost
productivity in this factory. Help | 3:45:54 | 3:45:59 | |
us pay people more and bring more
prosperity to people of | 3:45:59 | 3:46:06 | |
Peterborough? What is your opinion
on the forecast, what will it did | 3:46:06 | 3:46:15 | |
your business long-term? I
personally think you have to play | 3:46:15 | 3:46:18 | |
what you have in front of you. We
will have to take more business off | 3:46:18 | 3:46:23 | |
competitors. We will have to
struggle as best we can to become | 3:46:23 | 3:46:27 | |
more efficient, to price efficiently
and make sure we have the best | 3:46:27 | 3:46:32 | |
product offered in the marketplace.
What will you be investing with? We | 3:46:32 | 3:46:43 | |
will be using some of the money the
Chancellor highlighted for the | 3:46:43 | 3:46:52 | |
services in the city. The big focus
was around skills as well. We have | 3:46:52 | 3:46:56 | |
to think about productivity and how
we develop skills around that. The | 3:46:56 | 3:47:02 | |
retraining was important and the
apprenticeship levy. There were | 3:47:02 | 3:47:05 | |
hints in the speech which we want to
explore further. What about | 3:47:05 | 3:47:10 | |
infrastructure? One of the issues
raised was about better | 3:47:10 | 3:47:13 | |
connectivity. Better transport links
will help boost companies around | 3:47:13 | 3:47:17 | |
this region? That is right. It is
connectivity and Peterborough which | 3:47:17 | 3:47:24 | |
drives investment into this area. We
heard the comments around Oxford, | 3:47:24 | 3:47:30 | |
Milton Keynes and Cambridge. We need
to see how this infrastructure | 3:47:30 | 3:47:33 | |
funding can be pulled up in places
in Peterborough. Those economies | 3:47:33 | 3:47:38 | |
need a boost from that. I share the
concerns about the clear message and | 3:47:38 | 3:47:43 | |
commitment. The growth figures are
concerning but let's talk about how | 3:47:43 | 3:47:47 | |
we can exploit it better. If you're
going to take business away from | 3:47:47 | 3:47:52 | |
foreign competitors, the growth
rates in many EU countries are | 3:47:52 | 3:47:55 | |
higher than ours? The one thing we
have is the exchange rate has | 3:47:55 | 3:48:02 | |
deteriorated significantly which
makes it more expensive for foreign | 3:48:02 | 3:48:06 | |
competitors to attack our
marketplace. On the flip side, | 3:48:06 | 3:48:09 | |
components we bring in from Europe
have become more expensive. We would | 3:48:09 | 3:48:13 | |
personally like to have seen
measures which have given us the | 3:48:13 | 3:48:16 | |
confidence to invest in capital
equipment to bring more | 3:48:16 | 3:48:19 | |
manufacturing back to the UK.
Gentlemen, thank you. Let's go to | 3:48:19 | 3:48:25 | |
our personal finance expert Simon
gone. He is down on the factory | 3:48:25 | 3:48:28 | |
floor. Bring us up to date with
Universal Credit? | 3:48:28 | 3:48:35 | |
A lot of questions about how it will
work. Two big changes to deal with | 3:48:35 | 3:48:40 | |
those delays of six weeks or more
people experience and are causing 70 | 3:48:40 | 3:48:46 | |
problems of the first, it was seven
days between applying and becoming | 3:48:46 | 3:48:51 | |
eligible, you will be eligible from
the date of applying which counts | 3:48:51 | 3:48:55 | |
out one week of the waiting and
secondly you will be able to apply | 3:48:55 | 3:48:59 | |
for emergency money, the first
month, upfront and will be able to | 3:48:59 | 3:49:04 | |
do that within the first five days
so two elements of help. The | 3:49:04 | 3:49:09 | |
question is who will get the
emergency money and will there be | 3:49:09 | 3:49:15 | |
problems delivering it? We can talk
about diesel because we are among | 3:49:15 | 3:49:18 | |
the trucks and vehicles in
Peterborough and Jo on Twitter says | 3:49:18 | 3:49:23 | |
why is the levy on diesel vehicles
only applying to cars? It is | 3:49:23 | 3:49:29 | |
politically and business-wise a
problem because the Chancellor does | 3:49:29 | 3:49:32 | |
not want to clobber business by
saying if you get a new diesel | 3:49:32 | 3:49:36 | |
vehicle you will pay more in the
first year. That is the reason. | 3:49:36 | 3:49:43 | |
Thank you, Simon. Labour called for
a pause, not just a reduction in the | 3:49:43 | 3:49:47 | |
waiting time with Universal Credit.
Back to Andrew. Thanks. In the | 3:49:47 | 3:49:53 | |
Westminster studio we are joined by
Labour Shadow Chancellor John | 3:49:53 | 3:49:56 | |
McDonnell. He has loosened his belt,
going for slower deficit reduction, | 3:49:56 | 3:50:05 | |
increasing spending, found money for
Universal Credit, nurses' pay, and | 3:50:05 | 3:50:09 | |
various other things. You must be
happy with the direction of the | 3:50:09 | 3:50:14 | |
budget? Not really. The scale is
nowhere near matching the lead. | 3:50:14 | 3:50:20 | |
Universal Credit, for every pound he
puts in he has taken off £10. NHS, | 3:50:20 | 3:50:28 | |
less than half of what was asked for
by Simon Stevens, a three-year | 3:50:28 | 3:50:33 | |
programme. It is more but I do not
think it will meet demand. Simon | 3:50:33 | 3:50:38 | |
Stevens said we could have a waiting
list of 5 million if we do not get | 3:50:38 | 3:50:44 | |
the 4 billion needed and he got
nowhere near that. Education, | 3:50:44 | 3:50:48 | |
nothing. Another area I have raised,
local authorities are talking about | 3:50:48 | 3:50:55 | |
vulnerable children and a £2 billion
gap. Children brought into care, | 3:50:55 | 3:50:59 | |
nothing on that. It is a no change
budget. Would you have gone for | 3:50:59 | 3:51:06 | |
slower deficit reduction or none at
all? In our fiscal rule we look to | 3:51:06 | 3:51:15 | |
eliminate the deficit but I would
have stopped giving away to the | 3:51:15 | 3:51:20 | |
rich, corporation tax, bankers' levy
and invest in public services. That | 3:51:20 | 3:51:25 | |
would have given us 76 billion. The
government has cut corporation tax | 3:51:25 | 3:51:29 | |
and gained a 25% increase in
revenue. You confuse correlation | 3:51:29 | 3:51:34 | |
with causation. The increase comes
because we have growth in the | 3:51:34 | 3:51:38 | |
economy, as a result of some
investment. Not as a result of | 3:51:38 | 3:51:43 | |
corporation tax cuts. What is needed
is a fairer tax system so we can | 3:51:43 | 3:51:48 | |
afford public services and we have
not seen that today. How much do we | 3:51:48 | 3:51:53 | |
spend now on paying the interest on
national debt? A lot. I will send | 3:51:53 | 3:51:59 | |
you a note on the figure. You don't
know? I know the figure but do not | 3:51:59 | 3:52:04 | |
have it in front of me. At the
moment, 46 billion. It has gone | 3:52:04 | 3:52:09 | |
down. It has gone up. It went down
previously. I assure you, it is | 3:52:09 | 3:52:15 | |
going up. If you did not know the
figure you do not know if it has | 3:52:15 | 3:52:19 | |
gone up or down. I can remember the
trend. It is as was said when you | 3:52:19 | 3:52:29 | |
have a desperate need for housing
and interest rates are low you | 3:52:29 | 3:52:33 | |
borrow and when you borrow to invest
you get the return because it will | 3:52:33 | 3:52:37 | |
be matched in terms of the
multiplier effect. We spend more on | 3:52:37 | 3:52:42 | |
interest, the British taxpayer, just
on servicing the interest payments | 3:52:42 | 3:52:45 | |
than we do on defence, and on
transport. You would add to that | 3:52:45 | 3:52:52 | |
with your policies and it would be
more than 50 billion. The current | 3:52:52 | 3:52:56 | |
Chancellor increase the debt by
about and if we had grown the | 3:52:56 | 3:53:06 | |
economy we would be able to afford
the public services we have got and | 3:53:06 | 3:53:10 | |
we would not have the productivity
crisis. We have a national debt of | 3:53:10 | 3:53:15 | |
over 1.7 trillion. Your plan is to
add to it and you are going to | 3:53:15 | 3:53:20 | |
borrow. Another 250 billion for
infrastructure fund. 25 billion a | 3:53:20 | 3:53:30 | |
year extra, borrow for
nationalisation, tens of billions. | 3:53:30 | 3:53:34 | |
And you would borrow for PFI. We
would swap bonds for shares and you | 3:53:34 | 3:53:41 | |
bring in a profitable industry
that's how you paper that. The | 3:53:41 | 3:53:46 | |
industries you want to nationalise
you say are profitable because they | 3:53:46 | 3:53:50 | |
are ripping off the customer. We
would ensure a proper rate of return | 3:53:50 | 3:53:54 | |
to the state of reducing prices.
Like in the water industry, if you | 3:53:54 | 3:54:00 | |
are not shelling out share profits
and dividends. How do you ensure | 3:54:00 | 3:54:04 | |
profitability that gives enough for
the nation to get a return and to | 3:54:04 | 3:54:08 | |
cut prices for consumers? East Coast
line was brought back into public | 3:54:08 | 3:54:14 | |
ownership and contributed a billion
into the Treasury. The head of East | 3:54:14 | 3:54:19 | |
Coast said the way they did that was
stopping investment. Instead of | 3:54:19 | 3:54:23 | |
giving a billion to the Treasury in
cash, you use it to invest. Their | 3:54:23 | 3:54:29 | |
ticket prices went up a lot in that
period. You want to do both things. | 3:54:29 | 3:54:35 | |
You said you can do them at the same
time. If you manage it effectively, | 3:54:35 | 3:54:41 | |
you could use some to reduce prices
of the Somme for investment. You | 3:54:41 | 3:54:45 | |
would not have had that much and you
are going to borrow billions more. | 3:54:45 | 3:54:53 | |
Why? Because a billion is not much
if you cut prices. I am saying it | 3:54:53 | 3:54:59 | |
would have been used to cut prices
and invest. You are going to borrow | 3:54:59 | 3:55:06 | |
billions to nationalise. We are
going to bring an asset back to | 3:55:06 | 3:55:10 | |
public ownership, which is neutral,
you borrow to nationalise but the | 3:55:10 | 3:55:14 | |
servicing of the debt is paid for
because you have a profitable | 3:55:14 | 3:55:21 | |
industry. That is a question of
whether you can run anything at a | 3:55:21 | 3:55:24 | |
profit. Every time a rail system
franchise has gone and it's come | 3:55:24 | 3:55:31 | |
back into public ownership it has
been managed effectively. How much | 3:55:31 | 3:55:37 | |
profit did British rail make? That
is the problem with British rail, it | 3:55:37 | 3:55:41 | |
was not invested in. There was an
analysis of British rail and it was | 3:55:41 | 3:55:45 | |
probably one of the most efficient
services in Europe based on the | 3:55:45 | 3:55:50 | |
money invested. You said at the
weekend Paris had done it with the | 3:55:50 | 3:55:54 | |
water supply. The mayor of Paris.
How much did Paris raising bonds? I | 3:55:54 | 3:56:00 | |
have not looked at the detail. I
gave it as an example and I was | 3:56:00 | 3:56:05 | |
saying other countries are looking
at this. The Parisians have done | 3:56:05 | 3:56:11 | |
this but they have raised no bonds.
I did not use Paris and is -- as an | 3:56:11 | 3:56:20 | |
example, I said it is where it is
happening. You did in 2010. It turns | 3:56:20 | 3:56:27 | |
out they raised no bombs. I said
Paris was an example of it | 3:56:27 | 3:56:31 | |
happening. I said we would ease
shares for bonds, not that model, | 3:56:31 | 3:56:38 | |
previously done in nationalisation
is. Do you think one of the biggest | 3:56:38 | 3:56:42 | |
challenges is productivity and to do
that we need to attract investment? | 3:56:42 | 3:56:47 | |
What signal does it send, a
nationalisation programme when you | 3:56:47 | 3:56:50 | |
need private investment? What you
also need is the state to invest | 3:56:50 | 3:56:56 | |
because that gives an opportunity
for private investors to match it. | 3:56:56 | 3:57:00 | |
What about something else? We have
set out a programme in the | 3:57:00 | 3:57:05 | |
manifesto. The interesting thing,
when I am talking to asset managers | 3:57:05 | 3:57:10 | |
and others they come to us because
they want the certainty of a | 3:57:10 | 3:57:13 | |
government that will invest in the
long-term. Which ones? I have said | 3:57:13 | 3:57:19 | |
this in confidence to them. I am not
going to name them. It is like | 3:57:19 | 3:57:25 | |
Philip Hammond meeting business
leaders... You cannot tell us a | 3:57:25 | 3:57:30 | |
single major asset manager you have
met? I have said to them it will be | 3:57:30 | 3:57:34 | |
a confidential discussion and I
respect Chatham House rules. Philip | 3:57:34 | 3:57:38 | |
Hammond tried to do it at Tory party
conference. They have given us | 3:57:38 | 3:57:46 | |
advice and assistance throughout. It
is possible to check. Do you doubt | 3:57:46 | 3:57:52 | |
my honesty? I would like to know the
asset managers. Are you doubting my | 3:57:52 | 3:57:56 | |
honesty? I would like you to provide
the evidence. I have told you. It is | 3:57:56 | 3:58:04 | |
unusual for asset managers to
appreciate the fact the value of | 3:58:04 | 3:58:07 | |
their assets will be determined by
Parliament. No, what they are | 3:58:07 | 3:58:14 | |
saying, including asset managers in
the pension fund field and across, | 3:58:14 | 3:58:19 | |
they want stable government that
will invest in infrastructure. 250 | 3:58:19 | 3:58:25 | |
billion, a 10-year programme, is not
untoward and is what past | 3:58:25 | 3:58:28 | |
governments have done. That is why
we have a productivity crisis, | 3:58:28 | 3:58:33 | |
because this government has failed
to invest for seven years. John | 3:58:33 | 3:58:38 | |
McDonnell, we have run out of time
but I look forward to coming back to | 3:58:38 | 3:58:42 | |
that discussion. That is the end of
the Budget Special. Goodbye. | 3:58:42 | 3:58:49 | |
Goodbye. | 3:58:49 | 3:58:51 |