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Hello and welcome to the Daily Politics. Britain is basking in | :00:22. | :00:25. | |
autumn sunshine and Tory ministers are showing a bit of leg ahead of | :00:25. | :00:29. | |
their party conference. They are saying that the speed limits on our | :00:29. | :00:33. | |
motorways could go up to 80 miles an hour. That will please Mondeo | :00:33. | :00:38. | |
Man! But the green lobby is angry, saying carbon emissions will soar. | :00:38. | :00:41. | |
We are also told the weekly bin collection is back. There will be | :00:41. | :00:44. | |
extra money for councils if they take our rubbish away every seven | :00:44. | :00:48. | |
days. So, are fortnightly collections a thing of the past? | :00:48. | :00:51. | |
Meanwhile, Adam is on his travels, almost exactly half way across the | :00:51. | :00:58. | |
Irish Sea. I am in the Isle of Man for the island's slightly less | :00:58. | :01:08. | |
famous race - the general election And with me throughout today's | :01:08. | :01:10. | |
programme, Kevin Maguire of the Daily Mirror and Rachel Sylvester | :01:10. | :01:20. | |
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of the Times. We are just looking ahead to the Tory conference. It | :01:22. | :01:28. | |
has already started, hasn't it? When you think there are huge | :01:28. | :01:32. | |
things going on that the economic crisis, the eurozone in meltdown. I | :01:32. | :01:37. | |
think they will have to come up with a bit more. It will set the | :01:37. | :01:44. | |
agenda of the weekend. Ministers will hope they are popular. | :01:44. | :01:49. | |
Rachel says, is it also an indication they have not got any | :01:49. | :01:53. | |
money? They have to do this populist thing that does not cost | :01:53. | :02:00. | |
any money. Is there anything else left in the magic box? They are | :02:00. | :02:06. | |
talking rubbish before they meet in Manchester. Both very populist | :02:06. | :02:12. | |
issues. I believe with them on both. It is fair to deflect the attention | :02:12. | :02:19. | |
from austerity and the fact they do not like the Liberal Democrats. | :02:19. | :02:26. | |
Europe has to rear its head. This Conservative Party is as Euro- | :02:26. | :02:34. | |
sceptic as it was. You can see them frothing at the mouth. What an | :02:34. | :02:39. | |
image! If this is window-dressing, what do you think will be the | :02:39. | :02:43. | |
messages from David Cameron and George Osborne? They need to come | :02:43. | :02:50. | |
up with a package on growth. We have interviewed Philip Hammond. He | :02:50. | :02:55. | |
is saying it is good for business and good for growth. The Transport | :02:55. | :03:00. | |
Department is an economic department. I'm not sure how you | :03:00. | :03:08. | |
get bins into Kriss Akabusi. There is no Plan B but there is a gross | :03:08. | :03:17. | |
in Plan A. -- growth. The pressure is building internationally from | :03:17. | :03:27. | |
the IMF and others. This plant is not working. -- plan. How can a | :03:27. | :03:31. | |
shift and do something else when they say it our original plan is | :03:31. | :03:38. | |
right? How can you do that while shifting? It is a tricky position. | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
They want to take credit for responding to the growing economic | :03:42. | :03:46. | |
crisis but they do not want to say they were wrong. They cannot do | :03:46. | :03:52. | |
that because they do not want to lose credibility. George Osborne is | :03:52. | :04:00. | |
a politician. He is good at strategy. He will have an icon what | :04:01. | :04:08. | |
the opinion polls are saying and what people are feeling. -- an eye | :04:08. | :04:14. | |
on. He is feeling the pressure, when you look at him. He has aged | :04:14. | :04:19. | |
visibly. We were talking about this a few days ago. I'll do it under a | :04:19. | :04:23. | |
lot of pressure or are they relax because there is no real challenge | :04:23. | :04:30. | |
from Labour? -- are they under a lot of pressure? They have not got | :04:30. | :04:35. | |
that much political pressure. have the Liberal Democrats on board. | :04:35. | :04:39. | |
They can see those figures. They are terrified of the double-dip | :04:39. | :04:43. | |
recession because they will get the blame. That could change the whole | :04:43. | :04:51. | |
political atmosphere. Will there be aid David Cameron moment? He will | :04:51. | :04:58. | |
make a point of mentioning Margaret Thatcher. He will emphasise it. | :04:58. | :05:01. | |
internal government battles go, this one was supposed to have been | :05:01. | :05:05. | |
an epic! It will, no doubt, come to be known as the Battle of the Bins. | :05:05. | :05:08. | |
And now, it seems, we have a winner. Today, the Local Government | :05:08. | :05:11. | |
Secretary, Eric Pickles, is trumpeting the return of the weekly | :05:11. | :05:13. | |
bin collection. More than half the local authorities in England no | :05:13. | :05:16. | |
longer pick up the remains of your chicken tikka masala every seven | :05:16. | :05:19. | |
days - something Mr Pickles once declared the basic right of every | :05:19. | :05:24. | |
Englishman. Weekly collections had been around since 1875 but they | :05:24. | :05:27. | |
started to disappear under the last government, for reasons of cost and | :05:27. | :05:32. | |
in order to encourage recycling. The Tories fought the last election | :05:32. | :05:34. | |
promising to bring them back with householders complaining of | :05:34. | :05:38. | |
horrible smells, fly-tipping and rats. But back in June, the | :05:38. | :05:42. | |
Environment Secretary, Caroline Spelman, stepped in. She said this | :05:42. | :05:46. | |
would all cost far too much, at least �130 million a year. And | :05:46. | :05:50. | |
things rapidly got a bit unpleasant. Why don't you spend less time | :05:50. | :05:53. | |
speaking to your officials and more time listening to the electorate?, | :05:53. | :05:57. | |
Mr Pickles apparently said. And the two ministers stopped speaking. So | :05:57. | :06:01. | |
today we hear that 250 million of new money has been found down the | :06:01. | :06:04. | |
back of a sofa somewhere. Weekly bin collections are back. The | :06:04. | :06:08. | |
horrid smells and rats are banished. And the worries about extra costs | :06:08. | :06:13. | |
are simply rubbish. Or are they? And joining us is the Local | :06:13. | :06:22. | |
Government Minister, Bob Neill. Was Caroline Spelman wrong when she | :06:22. | :06:27. | |
said weakly bin collections cost too much? You have been listening | :06:27. | :06:32. | |
to too much Westminster gossip. They have been working jointly on | :06:32. | :06:35. | |
it right the way through. Both of them supported the announcement | :06:35. | :06:40. | |
that we said we would have a review and where Catt a way to go with | :06:40. | :06:45. | |
local authorities to encourage them to bring back weekly bin | :06:45. | :06:50. | |
collections. -- work out. Are you really trying to tell me and tell | :06:50. | :06:56. | |
the viewers that there has been no rift over this? It is a | :06:56. | :07:02. | |
departmental victory for Eric Pickles. It is in the nature of | :07:02. | :07:08. | |
journalists... And it is in the nature of politicians... It is a | :07:08. | :07:14. | |
case of two government ministers working well together. We have been | :07:15. | :07:20. | |
making economies consistently in the running cost of our departments. | :07:20. | :07:25. | |
It is savings within our current budgets. We can use them for an | :07:25. | :07:28. | |
initiative which will be very popular with people. Nothing wrong | :07:28. | :07:33. | |
with that. It will make a difference to the quality of | :07:33. | :07:38. | |
service. Why don't you let local councils decide what to do? It | :07:38. | :07:44. | |
flies in the face of your localism strategy. That is what we are doing. | :07:44. | :07:49. | |
We are letting local councils decide. Eric Pickles has already | :07:49. | :07:53. | |
said, we will encourage them, otherwise there will suffer at the | :07:53. | :07:59. | |
ballot box, to bring back weekly bin collections. Encouraging is not | :07:59. | :08:04. | |
the same as telling. Under the previous government, local councils | :08:04. | :08:08. | |
were being very directly financially penalised if they did | :08:08. | :08:13. | |
not go down a one size fits all model. We are saying we do not want | :08:13. | :08:17. | |
to have a financial obstacle to going back to weekly collections, | :08:17. | :08:21. | |
if that is what you and your residents think is the right thing. | :08:21. | :08:26. | |
We are giving them the choice. All the evidence suggests that most | :08:26. | :08:31. | |
people particularly want the smelly stuff taken away on his weekly | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
basis. I think they will listen to the electorate when it comes to | :08:35. | :08:40. | |
election time. Why not just give them the money? Let them make the | :08:40. | :08:44. | |
decision about where they would like to spend part of that �250 | :08:45. | :08:50. | |
million, if they want to spend it on mental health strategy, why | :08:50. | :08:55. | |
don't you do that? The department has been able to provide some money | :08:55. | :09:01. | |
and we are determined we are keeping a promise. That is a shop | :09:01. | :09:06. | |
with some politicians. We made a promise we will find a means of | :09:06. | :09:12. | |
helping local authorities to move back to more weekly collections | :09:12. | :09:17. | |
where they thought it appropriate. That is what we are doing. | :09:17. | :09:21. | |
Government made such a big deal about saying, we will distance | :09:21. | :09:25. | |
ourselves from decisions being made at a local level. They are | :09:25. | :09:30. | |
dictating from the top. It is populist and popular as well. He | :09:30. | :09:34. | |
kept the great straight face when he said there were no rows between | :09:34. | :09:40. | |
Eric Pickles and Caroline Spelman. Can anyone afford to buy anything | :09:40. | :09:47. | |
to put in the rubbish anyway? It is popular. I hope the sums are being | :09:47. | :09:55. | |
done right. If it is �250,000,000.18000000 households do | :09:55. | :10:03. | |
not get weekly collections, it means about �30. Can you get an | :10:03. | :10:09. | |
extra 26 collections out of that? think you can if you use it | :10:09. | :10:14. | |
cleverly. The median cost of four likely as opposed to weekly, it | :10:14. | :10:22. | |
does not cost any more. A lot of councils are caught in clever | :10:22. | :10:26. | |
contracts. Part of the tests is, are you going to encourage | :10:27. | :10:31. | |
recycling and get better value for money? Can I just clarify? When you | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
talk about weekly bin collections might have come up all the rubbish | :10:35. | :10:41. | |
or you collect the main rubbish but all the recycling is still done on | :10:41. | :10:45. | |
a fortnightly basis? What we're saying is they should have the | :10:45. | :10:48. | |
opportunity to go back to weekly. That should vary from place to | :10:48. | :10:55. | |
place. Her all the rubbish? It will be a local decision. If you think | :10:55. | :11:00. | |
about it, the City of Westminster has a huge volume of rubbish. They | :11:00. | :11:05. | |
collect the rubbish several times a week. In my area, like cures, they | :11:05. | :11:14. | |
take fruits double wave weakly. -- like yours, they'd take the rubbish | :11:14. | :11:22. | |
away weekly. Most of these councils will be Tory councils who want the | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
fortnightly collections. They are going to tell them when Tory | :11:26. | :11:33. | |
councils what to do. Want to make of it? There is a wider thing about | :11:33. | :11:38. | |
localism. -- what do you make of it? You realise you will get the | :11:38. | :11:43. | |
blame for every local decision. You realise the idea of letting | :11:43. | :11:46. | |
everything go and letting people make the decisions is a nightmare | :11:46. | :11:50. | |
if you are going to take responsibility. It is going to come | :11:50. | :11:55. | |
across on other issues as well. They need to control it from the | :11:55. | :12:03. | |
centre. What if local councils make the wrong decision?! Are you saying | :12:03. | :12:09. | |
that on some issues you're stepping in because the timing is good? You | :12:09. | :12:14. | |
keep -- you need something to give to your party faithful. | :12:14. | :12:21. | |
understand the point from Rachel. It is very much compatible with | :12:21. | :12:24. | |
localism. We are reversing the situation we inherited from the | :12:24. | :12:30. | |
previous government. They were marked down if they did not move to | :12:30. | :12:33. | |
fortnightly collections. They were being obliged through various | :12:33. | :12:38. | |
directives which were being scrapped. We scrapped a lot of the | :12:38. | :12:42. | |
directives which said to have to move to smaller been sizes and | :12:42. | :12:51. | |
fining people -- bin. What about rows and rows of unattractive | :12:51. | :12:59. | |
wheelie bins being left out? thing we're keen to use this money | :12:59. | :13:04. | |
for is to encourage new technologies. One particular | :13:04. | :13:12. | |
technology is about the Cannich ingestion. In one of The bin, it | :13:12. | :13:22. | |
gets taken away to separate the recyclable things from the non | :13:22. | :13:27. | |
recyclable. You are still going to get these things. At the moment | :13:27. | :13:32. | |
local authorities do not have any incentive to move away from that. | :13:32. | :13:42. | |
The technology needs to be there were one bin takes the lot. It is | :13:42. | :13:48. | |
said to be another dad get in the heart of local decision-making. | :13:48. | :13:54. | |
think they ought to be listening to the electorate. In Windsor and | :13:54. | :14:00. | |
Maidenhead they have done it locally. Recycling has gone up 35%. | :14:00. | :14:05. | |
We will see you at conference no doubt. So, did you stay up all of | :14:05. | :14:08. | |
last night for the results of the most nail-biting general election | :14:08. | :14:11. | |
in a generation? Don't worry, you have not fallen in to some weird | :14:11. | :14:17. | |
time warp. Our neighbours on the yesterday. We sent Adam to | :14:17. | :14:27. | |
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# This is my island in the sun... Besides motorbikes and low taxes, | :14:33. | :14:37. | |
what do you know about the Isle of Man? It is a British Crown | :14:37. | :14:42. | |
dependency, like the Channel Islands. That means the united | :14:42. | :14:45. | |
Kingdom is responsible for defence and foreign affairs. The government | :14:45. | :14:49. | |
here is responsible for pretty much everything else. You will notice | :14:49. | :14:53. | |
from their own money that the Queen is still head of state. This week | :14:53. | :14:58. | |
we have had election fever here. More than 60 candidates have been | :14:58. | :15:06. | |
competing for 24 seats here at the oldest parliament in the world. | :15:06. | :15:14. | |
This is our parliament, which was established in 979. This is the | :15:14. | :15:19. | |
lower house. What is different from Westminster is that here, they do | :15:19. | :15:26. | |
not really do political parties. Most members are independent. | :15:26. | :15:31. | |
all about size. How our Yes. Works is because it is small. You could | :15:31. | :15:35. | |
not do it in a very large Parliament, like Westminster. Here, | :15:35. | :15:44. | |
it is very small, the constituency is small, generally. Which means | :15:44. | :15:49. | |
campaigns tend to be small, with friends and family mucking in. | :15:49. | :15:54. | |
just giving moral support. My uncle is running. My uncle is running as | :15:54. | :15:59. | |
well. Pieces of paper going through the post or delivered through | :15:59. | :16:07. | |
letterboxes, but more often than not, it is family who do it. | :16:07. | :16:11. | |
this fairly new party is rolling in with the island's first ever battle | :16:11. | :16:16. | |
bus. They have 10 candidates, and they want to break open a system | :16:16. | :16:21. | |
which they think is a bit too insular. The problem is, going back | :16:21. | :16:25. | |
to what it was when I was a youngster, as far as, it is not | :16:25. | :16:29. | |
what you know, it is who you know. It is the patronage of so many | :16:29. | :16:33. | |
aspects, as far as I have seen. There have been some changes, | :16:33. | :16:37. | |
though. This young man can cast a ballot because five years ago, the | :16:37. | :16:45. | |
Ireland gave the vote to 16- to 17- year-olds. That was quick. Yes, it | :16:45. | :16:51. | |
is a bit intimidating, but apart from that it was all right. I think | :16:51. | :16:56. | |
it is about time that the franchise was extended to our age group. | :16:56. | :17:01. | |
Because at 16, you do start to get that interest in politics. And what | :17:01. | :17:07. | |
was the biggest issue at the hustings? Us. The British | :17:07. | :17:09. | |
Government as we negotiated an agreement to share revenues from | :17:09. | :17:13. | |
VAT, which means the island is facing cuts of more than �100 | :17:13. | :17:20. | |
million a year. All the results are coming in, and if you want to know | :17:20. | :17:25. | |
which candidates got in to the parliament on the Isle of Man, then | :17:25. | :17:32. | |
go to the website. The members will decide which one of them becomes | :17:32. | :17:36. | |
the chief minister next month. Earlier, we were talking about | :17:36. | :17:40. | |
bringing back weekly bin collections. The other hot | :17:40. | :17:44. | |
political story this morning, ahead of the Tory conference, is the news | :17:44. | :17:46. | |
that ministers are planning to raise the speed limit on motorways | :17:46. | :17:53. | |
in England and Wales to 80mph. I don't know if that means we will | :17:53. | :18:00. | |
have to slam on the brakes as we crossed the border to Scotland. | :18:00. | :18:04. | |
Starting with you, Sean O'Grady, where is the evidence that this | :18:04. | :18:09. | |
will actually have significant economic benefits? You just have to | :18:09. | :18:14. | |
think about it. If you're late for a meeting, if an important | :18:14. | :18:19. | |
component for a factory is late, or stocks for a supermarket, that | :18:19. | :18:24. | |
causes economic damage. The faster the goods move around the economy, | :18:24. | :18:27. | |
the more the economy generates income and wealth. Will it make | :18:27. | :18:32. | |
that much of the difference? It may well do, if you fall very late for | :18:32. | :18:36. | |
a meeting or a flight or something like that, it could well make a big | :18:36. | :18:45. | |
difference. But isn't safety the key here? Depending on the figures, | :18:45. | :18:52. | |
for example, Brake say there will be 10% more casualties. They claim | :18:53. | :18:58. | |
that, but nobody actually knows. The general trend in road | :18:58. | :19:01. | |
casualties in the UK and Europe I think is favourably downwards, and | :19:01. | :19:11. | |
in Germany, on the autobahn, I think they have a lower rate of tax. | :19:11. | :19:15. | |
The statistics we have got say the opposite, they say there are twice | :19:15. | :19:20. | |
as many fatalities in Germany, the same as France, compared with us. | :19:20. | :19:25. | |
The it is important that technology has overtaken the speed limit. Cars | :19:25. | :19:31. | |
nowadays are built to do far more than 70mph. In 1965, when it was | :19:31. | :19:36. | |
brought in, hardly any were capable of doing that speed. But now, they | :19:36. | :19:41. | |
are capable of doing it, and doing it safely. You have got can -- | :19:41. | :19:45. | |
cruise control, regulating the distance from the current front. | :19:45. | :19:50. | |
These safety features were not in existence in 1965. Are you | :19:50. | :19:54. | |
convinced by these safety arguments? I am not a safety expert, | :19:54. | :20:03. | |
I do not know. Let us hear these arguments, if they have got them. | :20:03. | :20:08. | |
Appraisal of road schemes used to be done on archaic and silly | :20:08. | :20:12. | |
assumptions, and this decision seems to be done on the same basis. | :20:12. | :20:18. | |
Basically, those rules would say, if you have got a barrel of oil, | :20:18. | :20:24. | |
Burnet, it is good for the economy. Well, we are now importing oil, and | :20:24. | :20:28. | |
every extra gallon burnt on the motorways is something we will have | :20:28. | :20:33. | |
to import. We will have to do so either from unstable regimes or | :20:33. | :20:39. | |
from places where it is quite difficult to get it out. This is | :20:39. | :20:43. | |
why we think it is a bad decision, not the safety, we do not know | :20:43. | :20:46. | |
about safety at Greenpeace, but what we do know about is the | :20:46. | :20:51. | |
environment. Why would we want to try and make it worse, carbon | :20:51. | :20:56. | |
emissions? Speed and the environment are now the coupled, | :20:56. | :21:02. | |
because of new technology. If you take electric cars, for example... | :21:02. | :21:06. | |
You get the electricity from wind power or nuclear power, it is | :21:06. | :21:10. | |
completely green, no matter what speed they go at. Cars are far | :21:10. | :21:14. | |
cleaner and more economical and environmentally friendly than ever | :21:14. | :21:21. | |
before. Sure, the direction of travel is towards cleaner cars, | :21:21. | :21:26. | |
which is great. But if we're going to be predominantly dependent on | :21:26. | :21:30. | |
the internal combustion engine for another decade, possibly two, the | :21:30. | :21:35. | |
figures are roughly that going at 80mph compared with the money, you | :21:35. | :21:40. | |
will burn 20% more fuel. More research says that if you just | :21:40. | :21:43. | |
enforce the existing speed limit, then you get about a million tonnes | :21:43. | :21:50. | |
of carbon saving. When you put that through... And you criminalise half | :21:50. | :21:57. | |
the drivers on the motorway. We do not say that because loads of | :21:57. | :22:03. | |
people are using drugs, we should decriminalise them. On drugs and | :22:03. | :22:08. | |
Speed, that is probably not true, actually. I do not see any evidence | :22:08. | :22:14. | |
that this government is looking to treat -- to decriminalise drugs. | :22:14. | :22:17. | |
The point I'm trying to make is about whether this is a good | :22:17. | :22:21. | |
decision in the current context, and whether government should be | :22:21. | :22:23. | |
setting standards of performance and behaviour which contributes to | :22:23. | :22:32. | |
a good society, in the round. And this is a bad decision. That is the | :22:32. | :22:37. | |
key, it is it a good decision in the current context? If you look to | :22:37. | :22:44. | |
the future, in the end, might it be a decision with foresight, really? | :22:44. | :22:48. | |
The law has to keep up with the reality. Philip Hammond's most | :22:48. | :22:52. | |
persuasive point is that more than half of drivers actually go at | :22:52. | :22:58. | |
80mph. In Denmark, when they raised the speed limit by 10mph, in fact, | :22:58. | :23:03. | |
the speed only went up by 2.5mph, because people were already going | :23:03. | :23:13. | |
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at that speed. But will it not make it de facto 90mph? They say not. | :23:15. | :23:19. | |
The police could decide not to raise that higher. And most people | :23:19. | :23:23. | |
actually drive at a level which they believe to be saved, I think. | :23:23. | :23:26. | |
It is not really to do with technology or business or the | :23:26. | :23:31. | |
environment. It is personal behaviour? People will not drive a | :23:31. | :23:39. | |
huge amount faster. Is this going to be a fight between two | :23:39. | :23:43. | |
departments, the transport department, and the Department for | :23:43. | :23:51. | |
Environment, Food and Rural Affairs? It could be, but I think | :23:51. | :23:54. | |
David Cameron has come a long way since he was trying to put | :23:54. | :23:57. | |
windmills on his house. The Department of Transport will win, | :23:57. | :24:03. | |
because it will be popular. There are drivers in cars which are safer, | :24:03. | :24:07. | |
cleaner and on nice clear roads in good weather, and they're having to | :24:07. | :24:12. | |
go along at 70mph. Are you were read you have lost this argument? | :24:12. | :24:18. | |
Well, it is not about being popular. It is about being responsible. | :24:18. | :24:22. | |
Weariness situation where we have a carbon budget, a legally-binding | :24:22. | :24:27. | |
carbon budget. If we increase the emissions from roads, we have got | :24:27. | :24:35. | |
to decrease them from other areas. If you increase the emissions from | :24:35. | :24:40. | |
cars, which you do not have to do, he did not have to do this, you | :24:40. | :24:46. | |
have got to reduce it from somewhere else. Why don't we all | :24:46. | :24:50. | |
just get her horse and carts? have got to thank our guests are | :24:50. | :24:55. | |
very much for coming in. Before we go, let's have a quick speed | :24:55. | :25:05. | |
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With the country basking in an Indian summer, it was Labour's turn | :25:07. | :25:11. | |
to shine at their party conference. Ed Balls was in bullish form the | :25:11. | :25:15. | |
football field. But the Balmy weather must have affected his mood, | :25:15. | :25:19. | |
as he apologised for Labour's failure to regulate the banks. But | :25:19. | :25:23. | |
what of Ed Miliband? There was plenty of red meet for the left of | :25:23. | :25:28. | |
the party in his speech, as he attacked predator businesses. But | :25:28. | :25:34. | |
he seemed keen to emphasise who he wasn't. I'm not Tony Blair. Have | :25:34. | :25:39. | |
they already forgotten who won them three elections? Away from | :25:39. | :25:44. | |
conference, the eurozone crisis rumbled on. Angela Merkel won a | :25:44. | :25:48. | |
crucial vote in the Bundestag. In Liverpool, a reminder that it is | :25:48. | :25:53. | |
tough at the top. How could eight macro be expected to remember the | :25:53. | :25:56. | |
name of the front runner to become Labour leader in a little country | :25:56. | :26:06. | |
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called Scotland? Ken Macintosh, yes. There for the grace of God go I. | :26:12. | :26:19. | |
Just quickly, intelligence on Shadow Cabinet reshuffle? Either he | :26:19. | :26:27. | |
does it in the next 10 days, during the Tory conference or just after. | :26:27. | :26:32. | |
Who would you like to see? I think Rachel Reeves has done very well, | :26:32. | :26:36. | |
Tristram Hunt has done very well. Some of the new MPs I think he | :26:36. | :26:41. | |
should promote. This is the stage at which he has still got a few | :26:42. | :26:46. | |
years till the election, so he could experiment. Yes, but you want | :26:46. | :26:49. | |
a bit of momentum. I thought he took a step forward at his | :26:49. | :26:53. | |
conference, but not a big step. He needs to be doing better, | :26:53. | :26:59. | |
unquestionably. So, get that team together, and hope it works. You do | :26:59. | :27:03. | |
not want to experiment too much. Next week, what will they be doing, | :27:03. | :27:08. | |
do you think, in the Shadow Cabinet, trying to think of ways to get the | :27:08. | :27:12. | |
attention of the electorate? think they should not worry about | :27:12. | :27:16. | |
next week. They have had their week in the sun. When Parliament comes | :27:16. | :27:20. | |
back, then they should think about what to do. Do you think they were | :27:20. | :27:25. | |
cheering in Tory Central Office when that speech was going on? | :27:25. | :27:29. | |
actually. It was idealistic but there was the risk of looking | :27:29. | :27:33. | |
really naive. How do you differentiate between good business | :27:33. | :27:42. | |
and bad business? It is the argument, don't give the | :27:42. | :27:46. | |
corporation tax cuts to banks, who wrecked the economy, give it to | :27:46. | :27:50. | |
manufacturing, people who make things. But he had not thought it | :27:50. | :27:54. | |
through, it was difficult for Labour people to come up with | :27:54. | :27:58. | |
specific examples on the spot. Maybe you need to give them some | :27:58. | :28:06. | |
coaching. I have got enough problems. That's all for this week. | :28:06. | :28:11. | |
Don't forget to watch Jon Sopel and The Politics Show on Sunday, when | :28:11. | :28:15. | |
he will be speaking to the chairman of the Tory Party, head of their | :28:15. | :28:19. | |
conference. Andrew and myself will be back next week. Just time for | :28:19. | :28:23. | |
one last look at one other highlight from the Labour | :28:23. | :28:30. |