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Good morning. Welcome to the Daily Politics. Will Lords reform be the


issue that drives the coalition apart? Senior Lib Dems warn there


will be consequences if the bill doesn't get through parliament. MPs


voted in favour of Lords reform last night. But 91 Conservatives


voted against the plans, the biggest rebellion since the


coalition was formed. The government also doesn't have a


timetable for getting the bill through. So, is Nick Clegg's dream


now dead in the water? We will be talking to the minister responsible.


How should we pay for our care when we get old? It's a problem


politicians have been wrestling with for years. The government's


long awaited white paper on the issue will be published later today


but will it answer the big questions?


It should be a lively Prime Minister's Questions and we will


have all the action live at midday. And do young people know what


customer service is? We will be joined by the boss of one of


Britain's biggest retailers, who thinks the youth of today have got


a lot to learn. All that coming up in the next 90


minutes of TV gold, a programme of Olympian proportions. And with us


today for this marathon are two of Westminster's most athletic minds.


The Constitutional reform minister Mark Harper. Not got much to do


these days of course! And we hope to be joined, although there is an


empty chair at the moment, by the shadow Olympics minister Dame Tessa


Jowell. She is stuck in traffic. With the Olympics, just get used to


it! We will let you know when the dame arrives but we don't do titles


here. She would just be Tessa Jowell to us.


Let's go to that a vote in the Commons. The government did win the


vote on the principle of the proposed reform to the Lords, with


a handsome majority. But, it is a big but, it suffered its biggest


rebellion since it came to power. Yes, 91 Conservative MPs voted


against the plans. What's more, the government was forced to drop its


timetable for pushing the bill through. That throws the bill's


progress through parliament into doubt. In a moment we will be


hearing from one of those opponents but first, here's a flavour of the


debate yesterday. Mr Speaker, we have listened carefully to the


debate so far. LAUGHTER. Confident that we will get a significant


majority with a second reading, but for Lords reform to progress it


needs those who support reform to vote for reform and to vote for


that reform to make progress through this House. It is clear


that the opposition are not prepared to do that, so we will


not... ALLOW Lord SPEAKING. It is clear that the opposition are not


prepared to do that so we will not move the programme to motion


tonight. Can I commend the government for the wisdom of its


decision? But can I put it to my right honourable friend that


whatever moral authority this bill had, it has now lost. The decision


to withdraw the programme motion is a victory for parliament. While we


support the second reading of the bill, we could not support the


government's attempts to curtail the motion and we welcome the fact


they have withdrawn the motion today. Can I make it clear that it


is the very substantial opposition from within the Conservative Party


that is responsible for the withdrawal of this motion and not


the Labour Party, and that should be perfectly clear. Shouldn't we


just go home? He knows it is all over, they know it is all over, we


have more important things to be debating. Let's call the whole


shooting match off! The honourable gentleman can go home. LAUGHTER.


But the government plans to proceed with his legislative programme.


Order! Order! The ayes to the right, 462. The noes to the left, 124.


That was yesterday's debate. Joining me now from the central


lobby of parliament is one of those Conservative rebels, Eleanor Laing.


Welcome to the programme. You must be pretty happy that the government


pulled the programme motion. I am pleased that democracy has spoken.


Those who want the bill say they want to expand democracy and that


is what has happened. The House of Commons has exerted its democratic


muscle against the government, that is what they say they want, the


government held to account, and that is what happened yesterday.


The government did the right thing in pausing the bills so further


negotiations can take place. there bill effectively dead or


suspended? I don't imagine it is dead but I am sure the minister


would enlighten us on that but it ought to be substantially amended


and now we have time for that. Those of us who are voting A


against the bill and planned to vote against the programme motion


simply wanted to have the full debate on this matter in a joint


committee report, and the House of Commons has not even debated the


Joint Committee report. In the eight months that the joint


committee looked at these measures, we realised there was far more to


this issue than eight tinkering with the House of Lords. It is


fundamental parliamentary reform and it deserves to be properly


looked at. Number 10 have said it is still possible to get the first


elected Peers imposition by the next election. It might be. The


government had a majority in the House of Lords so it might be butts


it should not be so until it has been properly considered.


Liberal Democrats say you have not kept your side of the bargain. A


deal is a deal. The coalition is a compromise, of course it is. It is


not be deal. Fundamental constitutional parliamentary reform


is not a bargaining chip for short- term political advantage. It should


not be used as such. That is an abuse of parliament. The coalition


agreement does not give Conservative MPs the right to vote


against a key piece of legislation. Every member of parliament has the


right to vote with their conscience on any matter. Thank you.


Still no sign of Tessa Jowell. I hope she realises now just how bad


the traffic is given to be during the Olympics. Clearly she has not


been allocated one of those lanes... Those of you not in London do not


realise that this city now has lanes that those in Moscow had for


the Politburo where only certain cars are allowed to travel. We are


joined in the studio by the Liberal Democrat MP Don Foster. I see in


the corner of the studio, the Dane has arrived! You might as well come


in, it is only television. Come and protect me because we are having


the Olympics knocked! I will not come to you first and since you


can't answer back I will say, now you know how bad the traffic will


be in the Olympics. That is cheap! Cheap but true! As the Prime


Minister said, we will take the summer and we will talk to


colleagues to see if there is a way to get to a position where we have


an agreed way forward. The bill got a very large majority at second


reading, son there is a clear sense in the House of Commons over ruled


that the principle of getting the first elections in 2015 is


supported, so we need to see if there is a way forward. 91 of your


colleagues voted against the principle. Probably even more would


have voted against the timetable had it come up. What makes you


think between now and September you can change the minds of so many


Conservatives? That is why we will not rush ahead. What makes you


think you can change their mind? All the rebels I have spoken to


will not change their mind. The government blinked, they backed


down, they have won. The House of Commons have set out support in


principle of the bill. I will come back to Labour in a minute... I


just want to say, it is a serious question and I don't understand


what the answer will be, which is how will you change their mind?


sat through days of debate, I met with colleagues myself so there are


a number of issues that colleagues have got about the implications of


the House of Lords reform. Some do not agree with the principle, some


are comfortable but they did not like some issues around the


electoral system... So you still think you can win a timetable


motion in September? We will speak with colleagues and the plan is to


then move forward in September with something we can get agreement on


but we do not know the solution until we have had those


conversations. We are all learning as we go along, if you fine you


don't think you can change your colleagues' mindss, you would bring


forward the timetable? You tend to look on the dockside of things, I


am a natural optimist -- on the black side of things. You have to


be! We will work with colleagues. That is the fourth time you will


work with colleagues. Let me speak to Don Foster. And we will make


progress. We will see. You can have me back in September. These stories,


Andrew! Honestly! You deputy leader, Simon Hughes, said there will be


consequences if the Tories do not stick to their side of the deal.


is very simple. Two opposing political parties came together


predominantly to solve the economic mess... A what will the


consequences be? I hope we will continue to work together


regardless of the outcome of this. The answer to your question is that


a number of my colleagues will find it more difficult in the future if


it is not delivered to support some of the more difficult decisions we


have to make. Time will tell. In English, it means that if


relationships are a bit more fractious, it makes it more


difficult to do a deal. A but what will the consequences be? No idea.


What I want to happen is what most people in the House of Commons


wants to happen. We have a number of Conservative colleagues to agree


with the principle of Lords reform, they don't like some of the detail,


we can accommodate that. Colleagues in the Labour Party are a bit


competes used as to whether they want more time -- a bit confused.


463 MPs want this to happen and we will find a way of making this


happen. You are filibustering! You know you are doing it! I can tell


that you know! No! I want to bring tacit him. Either way, welcome.


I apologise to your viewers. Congratulations on your Dane had.


Though as you know, we don't do titles. -- Dame heard. You are


willing laboured to will the end and not the means. You will


therefore risk the end. First of all, the end is the problem between


the coalition parties. That is the first point. We are absolutely


clear that we support reform. There will obviously be discussions over


the summer about the possibilities of making progress but so profound


of the divisions in the Conservative Party... Mark is a


decent man and an optimist, but how they are going to heal these rifts


with their coalition partners is very hard to understand. The rift


would not matter if you back the government on the issue of which


you agree in principle. The let me answer that question. The risk of


that is that this very important constitutional legislation is


denied proper scrutiny. How much time do you want? It is not a


matter of apportioning and number of days. It is if you ever want it


to come out of the House of Commons. No, Mark. Just listen. The


challenge is to make sure that every single bit of the bill is


properly scrutinised in committee. I understand that. You cannot have


another 100 days. Can you tell me any major constitutional reform


that Labour has put through that did not have the timetable motion


with it? We have always actually gone to a referendum on major


constitutional change and that is one thing, one of the major


sticking points. But my point is, Tessa Jowell, every major reform


labour has proposed of the constitution, you have always


timetable to the bill so why would you not agree to this one? Because


we are concerned that proper scrutiny of the legislation will be


made impossible by filibustering, just a second... No, no. We brought


forward three sets, five sets of major constitutional change when we


were in government. Reform to the House of Lords, getting rid of


their hereditary Peers... The new timetable them all. This is


That is a procedural detail on a failed... I am suitably admonished.


The principle remains that just as there were a clauses on the


boundaries built that what walked out and were not subject to proper


scrutiny, we have to make sure this legislation... What do you say to


that was back Tessa, please. Miller and says he wants this in


the House of Lords to be debated. - - Ed Miliband. We have to agree a


number of days, or we are prepared to have that discussion, but at no


point to the Labour Party say how many days. It employs you never get


to the end and you never make progress. Everyone who wants reform


to happen needs to help... Go to parliament which means there will


be no scrutiny... While the Lib Dems in such high dudgeon was Mac


21 Lib Dems voted against tuition fees and another eight abstained.


Now you're up up an arms because Conservatives of litigants house of


Lords reform. I am not sure we are in high dudgeon. A little low


dudgeon. It would have been great if the Conservatives had been able


to deliver the vote on the timetable motion on that -- in the


way we delivered on some difficult things. We have confidence that the


prime minister will work with his colleagues. He all right. Yes or


note. If you can't say yes or no, don't answer. Will we get Lords


reform was much on confident we will get some reforms in the House


of Lords. Some reform. As clear as mud. I think Don Foster goes...


Musical chairs. You'll have to change chairs. Not until he has


change chairs. Not until he has How we pay for our care when we get


old is one of the most pressing issues in politics. Ministers will


set out their plans later today for the future of social care in


England. The plans have been beset by delays so will this document


finally provide answers to the big questions? Jo.


There are few who would disagree that social care in England is in


that social care in England is in need of reform. But how you do that,


and how you pay for it, has been a headache for both Conservative and


Labour governments. The new White Paper suggests a "universal


deferred payment" scheme. This would offer a state loan to


pensioners moving into residential care so they do not have to sell


their homes immediately. At the moment, anyone with assets of more


than �23,250 has to pay for their own care. But the loan, with


interest, would be reclaimed after their death. There are also


proposals to cap the amount individuals will have to pay


towards nursing home fees. It's a contentious issue and it's not yet


clear what the level of the cap would be. Before the last election,


there were cross-party talks which ultimately broke down acrimoniously.


An independent review last year recommended that the cap should be


set at �35,000. Ministers are not yet expected to make specific


commitments. Here's what the Health Secretary Andrew Lansley had to say


Secretary Andrew Lansley had to say this morning. They are worried


about how we will be paid for. We have invested in social care, some


don't billion pounds through this column and. But in addition, one


will make clear that we are not only going to give people access to


loans scheme that means they don't have to sell the home to pay for


care, but in addition we support the principles which the deal not


commission set up but would set a cap on care costs, but we need to


establish, not least with the Spending Review as the basis for


this, how that is to be paid for in the future. Andrew Lansley.


We're joined now by the chief executive of the Alzheimer's


Society, Jeremy Hughes. How confident are you that there is


going to be some concrete agreement on how social care is funded quiz


mag unfortunately I don't think we were there for that any promises


about the funding. What the Goldman failed to do is make any commitment


on the funding. We have waited to years, we have had the commission,


on were read it will become but did not commission because the


Government doesn't seem to be committed to putting forward the


morning. Both parties or at all. There were cross-party talks that


were meant have happened in February, but they don't seem to


have happened. People are paying enormous costs for their own care,


nothing has been promised about fixing it. It needs to be addressed


urgently are not waiting for the Comprehensive Spending Review. The


review can tell us how much money we've got, but we need a discussion


on how what is spent. Shame on you box. People still don't know


whether they will have to pay for their own care when they're old. Do


you support the idea of a cap was much we've made it clear we support


the principle, but as soon as you get them to dealing with the


details, it is up paying for it what the Secretary of State has set


out his it will be dealt with through the Spending Review. We've


renounced some fondant in terms of more money from the health budget


to help with funding social care. We have announced the universal


deferred schemes that everybody will know they don't have to sell


their house within the lifetime and we have set up some positive...


That stops right to wake us might from 2015. -- that starts at Reuter


Y equals Mac from 2015. Their relatives will have to sell it.


have a bizarre situation that the manger is a disease like cancer.


you have cancer at me what we did on the NHS or if you have dementia,


you don't have any support and you have to pay for rich deferred


payments is an improvement, but people are still paying enormous


costs. Tessa Jowell, Labour was in power for a long perk -- on and did


nothing at this in a broad sense. Support the idea of a cap at


�35,000 was marked we support the principles, but think action has to


be taken up. 1.4 million -- 1.4 billion has been returned from the


Department of Health to the Treasury. Why can't 700 million


offer be directed to local authorities to provide care for


frail elderly people in their own homes quotes Max I will come on to


Does Labour support back �35,000 cap was Mark -- choir's Mac were


reduced support the principle of a cap. But the second thing is we've


got to agree proposals that a sustainable in the long term.


talks have been taking place. cross-border talks have broken down.


Rhino that Andy Burnham, Liz Kendall, are ready to resume those


cross-party talks at any Tonge. Most people watching at home will


feel it is ridiculous that we have spent 20 minutes talking to her


house will perform while at Houghton, as we do it, the Iraq


Work we work that ends in his What would you like to see?


Presumably you would like to see something that clears up the issue


of what people have to do in terms of planning. The other issue is


about the health budget and the local authority budget and do you


think there should be a single budget that crosses those two, so


when an old person read something in their home, the authority


doesn't say, that is not us it is another authority. We are expecting


the white paper to say there will be more personal care budgets


provided to individuals. You can't have the same person managing two


budgets without proper support. We meet one system that supports


people in a joined-up way. -- we meet. The proposals we are


expecting this afternoon will not make any big difference, they are


talking another couple of hundred million pounds. All of the money


used so far has just reduced some of the cuts, it has not led to any


improvements. Colleagues had an extremely busy


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Ben before we look at cygnet. Prime Minister's Questions is on its way.


The final PMQs before the summer recess. A few things to talk about.


I think what will be intriguing is whether Ed Miliband wants to talk


about the House of Lords or not. He might calculate it is not the


biggest topic at the water cooler today, and maybe talk about social


care. Or will he be tempted, as it is the last one, to use it as a


theme for the Government being in a mess, for the coalition falling


apart? May be tempted to do that rather than talk about House of


Lords head on. You can be accused of writing the weekend report.


Those big summaries on a Sunday. What Ed Miliband wants is a phrase


like on the shambles for the Budget. A phrase or a thought. He has to go


wider. And also stick with the Government through the summer.


is true that the coalition heads into the summer he in pretty bad


shape. It is in chaos over House of Lords reform. The economy has


barely grown since 2009. All the time you have been in power it has


hardly grown. When you speak to Treasury officials of the record,


they now say, we don't expect much growth before 2015. It is pretty


grim. Per the economic difficulties, we all know what they are like.


That remains the Government's central proposition. It is part of


the reason we don't want to spend every day talking about a house of


Lords reform. I don't agree about the state of the coalition. But


relationships are very good. Of course there are tensions, there


are bound to be when you have two parties working together, but the


last government, with only one party, there were a lot of


attention saying that government, or worse than anything we have as


two parties working together to sort out these interests -- issues


in the notional interest. Who said it closed list system for electing


the House of Lords would be entirely undesirable? It would


entrench the powers of the party's? I did and we are not recommending


The police said we would not have a closed list. Let's see what is


I am sure the whole House would wish to join me in paying tribute


to PC Ian Dibell who was shot and killed in Clacton-on-Sea on Monday.


Even though he was off duty at the time, he acted selflessly when he


saw members of the public at risk. This is typical of the behaviour of


our brave police force. His death is a reminder of the great debt we


owe it everybody in the police force and we send our deep


sympathies to his family, friends and colleagues. In addition to


duties in this House I shall have further meetings later today.


am repeat the remarks that the Prime Minister made to the House


about the brave police officer who lost his life. Can the Prime


Minister explained why he is making it easier for corporate law to be


amended... So rich, copyright law to be amended by secondary


legislation? Does this have anything to do with the 23 meetings


that he and his ministers have had with Google? We are following the


recommendations of the Hargreaves Report recommissioned. It is


important that we update copyright law in this country and that is


what we propose to do. A report into the York Hill child heart unit


in Glasgow says that the provision of paediatric intensive care may be


unsafe if critical issues are not addressed. It is now suggesting


that Leeds should be closed while Glasgow is not affected. It is


absurd and this review must be thrown out. He quite rightly speaks


up for his local hospital, an excellent hospital. My local


hospital has also not been selected under the safe and sustainable


review. I would say as prime minister and as a parent but we


have to recognise the operations that are being carried out are


incredibly complex and in the end, this review was led by clinicians


and it is about trying to save lives to make sure that we


specialise the most difficult work in a number of hospitals around the


country. I am sure that what really matters is that more parents don't


suffer the agony of losing their children because we do not have the


highest standards of care in the hospitals that are chosen. Can I


join the Prime Minister in paying tribute to PC Ian Dibell. He


demonstrated extraordinary bravery well-being of duty. His selfless


act and his tragic death remind us what the police do for us right up


and down this country and I am sure there are condolences of the House


go to his family and friends. At this last Question Time before


the recess, can I remind the Prime Minister what he said before the


election when asked why he wanted to be Prime Minister. With


characteristic humility, he said: Because I think I'd be good at it.


LAUGHTER. Mr Speaker, where did it all go wrong? It is this government


that has kept benefits, that has capped immigration, that has taken


two million out of tax, that has cut taxes for 25 million people,


Cup the fuel duty, increased NHS spending and cut the deficit by


25%! I cannot read out the list of all the things he got wrong, we


haven't got time! They are obviously well with today, it is a


shame it didn't happen last night! Last night, he lost control of his


party and not for the first time, he lost his temper as well. Because


we understand it was fisticuffs in the lobby with the member for


Hereford and south Hertfordshire. I notice that the posh boys have


ordered him off the estate today! Who does the Prime Minister blame


most for the disarray in his government? The Liberal Democrats


or his own backbenchers? Is the best he can do today is a bunch of


tittle-tattle Andrew Marr... How utterly pathetic! -- tittle-tattle


and rumours. On the day we are introducing social reform that will


help people up and down the country, we get half-baked gossip. If we


want to see House of Lords reform, all of those who support House of


Lords reform need to not only vote for House of Lords reform but


support to the means to bring that reform about. He came to the House


of Commons yesterday determined to vote yes and then vote no. How


utterly pathetic! It is the same old story with the Prime Minister.


He blames everybody other than himself. The government is a


shambles and he blames the leader of the opposition. That is what it


has come to. But Mr Speaker, his problems to the start last night.


They started months ago with the part-time Chancellor's budget.


Because they make the wrongs choices and they stand up for the


wrong people. So can he remind us after all of the U-turns when he


still thinks it is right to give a banker earning a million pounds a


�40,000 income tax cuts next April? It was the Chancellor's budget that


cut taxes for 25 million working people! That it two million people


out of tax! -- that took it! And has left us with a top rate of tax


that was higher than any of the times he and his neighbour were in


the Treasury, literally it wrecking the British economy. No answer on


his millionaire's tax cuts and we will keep asking the question! If


he is raising taxes on ordinary families and pensioners and he is


cutting tax on millionaires...! They say they are not raising taxes.


Can he therefore explain what has not been explained... He says I am


weak. What can be weaker than having 91 people vote against you


in the House of Commons!? Can he explain what has not been explained


since the Budget. Why it is it fair when you are cutting taxes for


millionaires to ask pensioners to pay more?


We increased pensioner's weekly income by �5.30, the biggest


increase in the pension in the history of the pension! What the


Budget did his cut taxes for every working person in the country, take


two million people out of tax, the top rate of tax change was paid


more than four times over by the richest people, and that compares


with what we were left by the party opposite! The most indebted


households, the biggest budget deficit in Europe and never wants


an apology for the mess they left this country him! No answer on the


disarray in his government, no answer on the tax cuts for


millionaires, no answer on a tax rise for pensioners. Perhaps he has


an odd sock on the biggest issue. He said in the new year, we have


got to do more to bring the economy back to health. What has he


delivered since then? A double-dip recession made in Downing Street.


Isn't the reality of the biggest failure facing the government is


not the programme motion on Lords reform, it is their whole economic


plan? It is under this government we got 800,000 more private sector


jobs, inflation is down, unemployment is down, interest


rates are at a record low, we are now a net exporter of cars for the


first time since 1976, we completed the biggest construction project in


Europe, which is the Olympics, we have started the next biggest


project, which is CrossRail, this government set up the enterprise


zones, has backed apprenticeships, has seen business rebalance in this


country and we will never forget what we were left by the party


opposite! They were bailing out eurozone countries with taxpayers'


money, they were paying �100,000 for just one family's housing


benefit, they had gun-control well- fed, uncontrolled immigration, --


UN controlled welfare. Never has so much been borrowed, never has so


much been wasted, never have so many people been let down and this


country will never forgive them for what they did! SHOUTING. The more


red he gets, the less he convinces people! Order! Order! Order!


Members on both sides of the House now need to calm down. That is all


there is to it. Ed Miliband. It is the same lecture we have had on the


economy for the last two years and things are getting worse, not


better, and every time he gets up with that list of statistics you


just shows how out of touch he is. Tax cuts for millionaires, double-


dip recession, you terms of doing U-turns, isn't the truth is that he


did not just lose the confidence of his party last night, he is losing


the confidence of the country? -- U-turns of do you. There is only


one person going red, and that is read Ed Miliband! Who backed Red


Ken Livingstone? Red Len McCluskey? He proposed �30 billion of more


spending? Who has given up... Apologies, order. The Prime


Minister's answers must, and however long it takes, they will be


heard. Let's take what he has done in the last year. He opposed a


welfare cap, and immigration cap, a housing benefit cap, he opposed


every thing of the government proposed. We know what he is


against but when will we find out what he is for? This government has


a great record on educational reform! The huge success of the


University Technical College initiative! Will the Prime Minister


please confirm he will support a further round of abdication as this


autumn and that funding is available so that businesses,


universities... INAUDIBLE. SHOUTING. Very good to see the honourable


lady on such feisty form. She's absolutely right to speak up for


university technical colleges. These are a great addition to the


schools we have our country. They really are a really high profile


way to have proper vocational education so we can give young


people the skills they need to have a great career in the future.


Monday June 25th, the Health Secretary announced a possibly


administration of the NHS Trust that covers Bexley, Bromley and


Greenwich and that night he met with the members for Bexley and


Bromley. Despite the Greenwich members asking for such a meeting,


at this moment in time there's no date in the diary and no date


forthcoming. How can the Prime Minister explain to me why the


residents of Greenwich are not given the same respect by his


minister as the residents of Bexley and Bromley? I think the honourable


lady raises the important point. It's a difficult situation that has


taken place at his NHS Trust. It is quite right that the Health


Secretary is using the powers that were put in place by the last


government to deal with these issues. It is partly because of the


PFI contracts that are unsustainable. I will take


seriously what she says it and see if I can arrange a meeting between


her and one of the health ministers to discuss this issue. In my


constituency of North West Leicestershire keep the average


pre-tax income is just under �25,000 a year. Does my right


honourable friend a sense -- share my sense of incredulity that the


party opposite still want the benefits cap of �26,000 a year


after tax? Doesn't is demonstrate he was really on the side of hard-


working families? I think my honourable friend makes an


important point. They came to the House of Commons and said they


would back a welfare cap, but they opposed a well-fed cat. He is right.


It shows he was on the side -- it shows who is on the side of those


who want to work hard. We backed the workers, they backed the


shirkers. The 2nd Battalion, the Royal Regiment of Fusiliers is to


be disbanded. This means 600 soldiers are facing redundancy.


This is a battalion and a regiment with a proud history of service to


this country. Will the prime minister not reconsider the cuts to


this Battalion? What I would say to the honourable gentleman, we looked


at this issue very carefully and took our time, which many times we


are criticised for, to make sure we got this right. I do think the


decision to have a smaller regular army of 80,000, but a much larger


reserve force, at over 30,000, is the right balance. The Government


is putting �1.5 billion into building up those reserves and I


hope members across the House will help with the process of


encouraging employers to allow territorial army reservists to


serve their country. We've made sure no existing regimental names


or cap badges will be lost so it is the right package for the future.


On Sunday, independent observers hailed the first free elections in


Libya for 47 years as broadly free and transparent and offering real


hope for the future. Does my right Friend agree -- right honourable


friend agree with me that we should congratulate the Libyan people on


the progress they have made since the struggle to overthrow with the


brutal to state to ship, and the message this sends other, including


Aung San Suu Kyi, who yearn for democracy in their own country.


sure my honourable friend speaks for the whole house and the country


in sending congratulations to the Libyan people for what looked like


successful elections. It was a year ago that things did not look as if


everything would turn out well in Libya. I'm proud of the fact that


the NATO alliance and this country stay true to the course and helped


to secure the right outcome in Libya and those people now have the


chance of successful democracy and prosperity that is denied to too


many in this world. He hit the North West London NHS is currently


consulting on the closure of four out of nine accident and emergency


units. The medical director has said north-west London would


literally run out of money if these closures don't go ahead. What kind


of consultation is it that poses a choice between the closure of half


of the accident and emergency unit in north-west London and a


potential bankrupting of the local NHS? On the issue of money, we have


put �12.5 billion extra into the NHS. That is a decision that her


party opposes answer is that extra spending for the NHS is


irresponsible. We will make sure that all consultations are probably


carried out. A patch properly carried out. And we want to make


sure we have Kafka access to and Pay has my right honourable


friend's attention been drawn to be a's adverse assessment that the


regular train service to Stansted Airport takes 47 minutes, which is


not universally correct across the timetable and in any case is too


long. Will he commit to a major upgrade it -- upgrade of the West


Anglia line so airport passengers can get a truly fast service that


my constituents deserve? understand why the my honourable


friend wants to speak up for people in his constituency who want her to


train service. As part of the new rail franchise in East Anglia, he


will be asking bidders to propose affordable Investment aimed at


improving services and I'm sure they will listen carefully to what


he said today. He had the Government rightly donates to


billions in overseas aid to developing countries, including


India, to eradicate poverty and disease. Despite this, the Canadian


government, including the Government of Quebec, are to invest


$58 million in asbestos producing mines, not for use in Canada, of


course, but to export to developing countries, including India, which


will put thousands of poor people at risk from the deadly asbestosis.


Will the Prime Minister and the International Development Secretary


per encourage international communities, including the World


Health Organisation, to oppose this outrageous decision? I will be


seeing their head of the World Health Organisation later today so


I can raise this issue with him. Asbestos is banned in the UK, the


EU and other countries. We are opposed to its use anywhere and


would deplore its supply to developing countries. If it does


not supply funds and... We are not aware that Dafydd funds have been


used in that way at all. I would take urgent action if that were the


case. On September fourth, the European Court of Human Rights is


hearing the case of the lady who lost her job at British Airways for


wearing a crucifix as a mark of her Christianity. The behaviour of


British Airways was a disgraceful piece of political correctness. He


I was surprised to receive the Government is resisting her appeal.


I can't believe that the Government is supporting this suppression of


religious freedom in the workplace so what are we going to do about


this sad case? For once I can say I wholeheartedly agree with my right


honourable friend. I fully support the right of people to wear


religious symbols at work. It is absolutely a vital religious


freedom. What we will do is if it turns out that the law has the


intention, as has come out in this case, we will change the law and


make clear that people can wear religious emblems at work. He does


the Prime Minister accept the findings of the Independent Action


for children report which shows that by 2015, the most vulnerable


families with children in this country, including those in


employment, will lose up to �3,000 a year because of this Government's


policies? At a time when millionaires are getting tax cut of


over 40,000 at the year, can he say we really are all in this together?


High I know the report he quotes doesn't actually include some of


the steps we have taken, like providing more nursery a education


for disadvantaged to Urals. If he looks at Universal Credit and the


design of Europe reversal credit, we will be helping parents with the


most disabled children to make sure they get the help they need. Will


the Prime Minister comment on the worrying stand-off between the


Egyptian military, who are clearly trying to cling on to power in


defiance of the Arab Spring, and as the Mohamed Morsi, who may not be a


liberal Catholic report -- liberal or conservative, but his Democratic


League elected? I've been very struck by what the president-elect


has said about how he wants to govern on behalf of everyone


Chinook Egypt, how he wants to respect religious and other


freedoms and I hope he the current tension can be resolved. But people


have to respect the Derek -- democratic will of the Egyptian


people as they expressed it. At the last election the Prime Minister


promised the pensioner's bus passes were say. Will he reject calls from


the Lib Dems and now from his close ally the honourable member for


Grantham and Stamford and categorically rule out means


testing of bus passes, including in his manifesto for the next general


election? As the honourable lady will know, at the last election I


made it clear promise about a bus passes, TV licences, winter fuel


payments. We are keeping all of those promises. Paul as Melinda


Gates has recently said, women in developing countries want to raise


healthy and educated children who can contribute to communities.


Would my right honourable friend agree that one of the ways we can


support this is to help those who wish to plan their family to do so?


I think the honourable lady is absolutely right. Later today I


will be speaking at a seminar event with Melinda Gates and a whole


range of leaders from across Africa and other parts of the developing


world about exactly this issue. We should be doing more to allow


mothers access to birth control so they can plan their family size.


The evidence shows that as countries develop, family size does


reduce and populations become more sustainable, but we should help


people plan that process. It is not about telling people what to do, it


is about allowing people the choice that in his country we take for


granted. Members will know that St Patrick, a Roman Britain, respected


by all traditions in Ireland, is a unifying figure. He established his


mission in my constituency of South Down, where today many people of


all faiths, drawing on his legacy, work unstintingly to build peace


across the divide. Will the Prime Minister, when next in Northern


Ireland, perhaps during the Olympics, come to San Patrick


Stewart country, meet with these people and which this -- witness


his unique heritage for himself and where he will not find any rebel


Tories? I don't know whether the honourable lady can guarantee that!


We do have an active branch in Northern Ireland and I'm sure... It


is an intriguing and very kind invitation. I hope that the


Olympics will bring the whole of a United Kingdom together. The torch


relay has already helped to achieve that and I was very privileged to


see it in my own constituency. She makes an intriguing invitation and


if I can take it up, I will. One of the success stories of this


government is in its commitment to rural community and farming. Today


nearly 2000 dairy farmers are meeting in Westminster to fight


drastic reductions of milk prices. Will the Prime Minister join them


in their fight to get a fair deal for their product? I think my


honourable friend is absolutely right to speak up for British


farmers. He does an extremely good job in doing that. This government


is investing in our countryside, not least we the rural broadband


programme, but we want to see a fairer deal between farmers and


supermarkets so we will be legislating. I can also tell him


that today we are announcing �5 million extra in additional funds


under the rural economy grant scheme and that can help to make


our dairy industry more competitive. What will the prime minister say to


the 150,000 adults that the Government itself estimates will be


denied a second chance for education as a result of their


plans to charge full-cost fees to over 24 year-olds studying A-level


and equivalent programmes and access courses? There will be a


full statement about this issue this week. It is important fact we


expand per further education opportunities. If we are going to


expand those, we need to adapt fast be clear about how to pay for them.


That is what we repeatedly get about Bath from the party opposite.


Absolutely no idea how they would pay for any of their policies.


government has achieved a great deal and the last two years. --


deer last two years. Didn't that new issues are emerging, doesn't


the Prime Minister agree with me that now would be a good time for


the political parties to review the coalition agreement for the future?


He I absolutely agree that in a coalition, you need to keep working


out the next set of things you want to achieve. This coalition has


achieved cuts to corporation tax, taking people out of income tax, a


massive expansion in terms of trust schools, a huge contribution to the


health service that is now performing better than at any time


and the last decade, and I'm committed to making sure we now


look at the next steps we want to take to make our country a better


A grandfather from Gwent far has a grandson returning from Afghanistan.


20,000 soldiers face losing their jobs. Labour has persuaded big


firms like John Lewis to guarantee a job veteran -- veterans a job


interview. Will the prime minister get the private sector to do the


same? I welcome what the honourable gentleman says. We should do


everything we can to work with employers, either in the public or


private sector, to help find her ex-service personnel jobs. They are


people who have been trained brilliantly and contributed


incredibly to our country and I'm sure we can do more to help them.


For instance, in the public sector, the education secretary has a


programme of troops to teach us to cry to get people who have served


our country to inspire further generations. On the prime ministers


watch, the army will be reduced to its smallest size since 1750 and


half the size it was at the time of the Falklands war. Does he accept


that history is not kind to prime ministers who are perceived to have


left our country without a strong defence capability? By no per he


speaks with great power about military issues. And if you look at


the overall balance of what we are doing, 80,000 regular soldiers,


30,000 TA, fully funded, will mean the army is a similar size after


these reforms to what it was before. Much the most important thing is we


inherited a �38 billion deficit in our defence budget. We have closed


or deficit, it is now fully funded. We have some huge investments going


ahead for the army, the Navy and the air force and this country


under this coalition government will always be well-defended.


the Prime Minister assist the House and tell us when the Chancellor of


the Exchequer is going to take the advice of the member for South


Northamptonshire, admit he made false allegations last week and


finally apologise? If we look at what might right honourable friend


the Chancellor said, he said that the Shadow Chancellor had some


questions to answer. I'm not sure there's anyone in this House who


doesn't think the Shadow Chancellor has some questions to answer.


Perhaps before we break for the summer, we should remember one or


two of those questions. Ruud is on the regulatory system that failed?


Who go or city minister when Northern Rock was selling 110%


mortgages? Who advised the Chancellor and the prime minister


that there was no more boom and bust? Who helped create the biggest


boom and biggest bust and he has never apologised for the dreadful


record he had in Office? Shrewsbury remains the only county town in


England without a direct rail service to our capital city. When


the new rail franchises are apportioned in August, will the


Prime isn't just or use his good office to ensure that government


does everything possible to ensure Shrewsbury is connected to London?


My honourable friend always speaks up for Shrewsbury. He's right that


when these franchises are looked at, there are opportunities to make the


case for more investment and for more services and I'm sure the rail


operators and others will listen very closely to what he said today.


Per my constituent is recovering from cancer. But she has had her


ESA's stopped after 365 days. The Government's consultation on


changing this rule ended in March. When are we going to see justice


for the 7,000 cancer patients in this situation? I have looked


carefully at this case and I know she has now had a response from the


minister about this issue. There are two types of ESA. 1 Where


there's opponents' support and it is not means tested, and another


where there's means testing after a year. We are making sure that more


people with cancer are getting more help and more treatment and I think


that is very important. It is absolutely right there are two


forms of allowance for those people who can't work, who did genuinely


can't work or prepare for work, get Prime Minister's Questions comes to


amend. There will not be another one until the fifth September. The


party conference season begins at the end of September. As Nick


Robinson said, the leader of the opposition used the coalition's


problems over House of Lords reform to paint a wider picture of the


general problems of the coalition, particularly of the economy and the


fact we are in a double-dip Mark in Dudley says, it strikes me


that David Cameron is living in a political parallel universe because


he is out-of-touch with reality. Stephen agreed, Ed Miliband clearly


won the argument, me keep some rising the government's shambles.


But Jaqueline says, if all Ed Miliband can come up with his


tittle-tattle, the bottom of the barrel has been found. And David


from Bury St Edmonds said, terrible stuff from Ed Miliband. Schoolboy


stuff and attempts at pathetic point-scoring totally irrelevant.


But quite a few people agreed with Marjorie: I feel depressed with all


three parties. If this is democracy at work, it is not very effective.


I feel a plague on all your houses. And if no party do is do the right


thing on care for the elderly because of a backlash, I fear for


the future of. There was a time when the coalition


would go to a second round but my understanding is that they will not


attempt a second coalition agreement to see them through,


which suggests that if they can't get House of Lords reform through,


what else can they give Nick Clegg? It is not obvious. One of the


reasons I don't think they are in quite the panic they might have


been is that it is not pushing him that much legislation. This


government does not have a huge legislative agenda. The


Conservatives have their mind on bringing back things they believe


are popular for them before the election, another Welfare Bill and


an education bill, but there is not that sort of legislation being


driven through. So we are in this row about the nature of the


coalition deal. Wasn't it interesting that a Tory backbencher


wanted to embarrass the Prime Minister by asking whether it was


time to renegotiate the coalition agreement? The Lib Dems say, there


was a deal, we give you what you want and we get House of Lords


reform. The Tories say, that is not the deal. We gave you a referendum


on changing the voting system. We never promised to Lord's reform.


You can see the tension about what to do next. Do you hear more voices


saying that they think at some stage the coalition will goad its


separate ways in 2014? Not that it would provoke an election, but that


they will go their separate ways because both the Conservatives and


the Lib Dems want to establish their own identities again and it


will be a supply in confidence minority Conservative government.


Yes, the question is when. Everybody has agreed there will


come a point, and particularly when we know the date of an election.


Never forget what a big issue that is. It is made it 2015. There will


come at a point when the Lib Dems will say, we give the government if


every support so it survives but we are now a certain our separate


identity. Sorry to move away but one other thought about what the


view was said. Never forget the contrast between where we are now


on the eve of this holiday and the eve of the Christmas holiday. I


would have said that at Christmas Ed Miliband had a pretty miserable


PMQs before Christmas. The opinion polls were bad and the talk around


the Labour Party will, what are we going to do? Oh my God. Look at the


transformation. It is a total transformation. You know have a


leader of the Labour party feeling absolutely confident in PMQs,


commanding it in many ways, embarrassing his opponents. He has


a significant lead in the polls. He is mocking the government. A


coalition that is in trouble not just between themselves but between


the Tory backbenchers and the Conservatives. It was almost


inconceivable at Christmas that Ed Miliband would be able to have the


thought of performance that he did today. He will go into the summer


knowing that lots of the was do not much like this but on the other


hand, it is the government that is in crisis and not him. If the


economy is in for several years of more hard pounding, which everybody


from the Chancellor and the Cabinet Secretary downwards suggests that


we are, the original coalition plan that living standards would be


rising, if that does not happen by 2015 and if you have a coalition


increasingly fractious, she did a betting man put money on Labour


being at least the largest party at the next election -- shouldn't


abetting man? No. The economic situation is tough and we know that.


But it is worth remembering that the private sector is doing what we


said, it is not growing as fast as we hoped, largely because people


are being very disciplined. Companies are being flexible.


Unions in the private sector, we have seen that in the car industry,


very sensible deals. It is difficult. Mick is right, there is


not a massive legislative programme. That comes back to abate we were


having yesterday. Government is not just about passing an enormous


quantity of bills. It is about using the legislation we have used,


delivering one all of those things, not passing more and more and more


pills. I understand that but if you could not win an overall majority


in the middle of the worst recession since the 1930s and up


against the most unpopular prime minister since records began, what


makes you think you have any chance of a majority in 2015 after five


years of hard, economic times? had fewer than 200 seats. We gained


the largest number of scenes that we have gained ever. But we had a


massive mountain to climb. What would make cute game more after


five years of almost no growth? -- what would make you get more?


Because the voters will look at the context, like the eurozone, the


difficult decisions we make to deal with the deficit, get finances


under control, and they look at what could have been. They are


looking at that now and Labour is between 10 and 15 points ahead in


the polls. But that often happens in the mid-term. As we get closer


to the election, people will ask themselves not just about us but


about the alternative and I think they will say they want David


Cameron to continue as Prime Minister and we will set out that


case. I will ask is personally, not as a politician. -- I will ask this


personally. If Labour did end up as the largest party, as the polls


suggest, although the elections are a long way away, would it be your


view that they should... If they went in with the Lib Dems they


would have an overall majority. Do you think they should stay as a


minority government, like Harold Wilson in 74, or do a deal with the


Lib Dems? It depends on so many things, Andrew. Certainly I think


that increasingly people feel that Ed Miliband and Labour is talking


the language and talking about the things that matter to them. He


seems to have the right priorities. If after the next election, and


particularly if the boundary changes go through, we would expect


my Meg Munn but seems to be down, of course if we were the largest


party it would be crazy not to enter into discussions with other


parties -- we would expect our numbers to beat down. But it would


be on the basis to carry a legislative programme, not, as this


government is, a discredited day-in day-out irrelevance which diverts


from the things that really matters in this country. It is the end of


term, speculating way ahead, but remember one of the big reasons


Gordon Brown could not form a coalition with the Liberal


Democrats is that there were used, not weeks and months and even days


after the election, there we use of anger of the Liberal Democrats to


Gordon Brown. -- there were years. The Lords reform for Labour is


quite important. If the perception of the Liberal Democrats is that


the Labour Party screwed up the Lord reform, do you think they will


be saying, we must give Ed Miliband a parliamentary majority? It is a


very interesting calculation in the mind of the Labour leader. On the


one hand, any opposition would want to have government and the way to


do that is to refuse to co-operate on Lords reform. On the other hand,


if you are playing the medium term game, how can you persuade, not


Nick Clegg because I don't think Ed Miliband would ever do a deal with


Nick Clegg, more likely Vince Cable, how to convince him we are serious


about corporate politics in the way the Labour Party are used to be if


Labour are now seem to be playing games about Lords reform? My Labour


sources tell me they believe that come the election, the Lib Dems


will be so diminished in numbers and so toxic as a concept that they


would rather form a minority government. Nick is right to say we


are talking about circumstances in two-and-a-half years and we do not


know. On the point about Lords Reform Bill, that presupposes that


the Lords reform holds the degree of importance across the Liberal


Democrats that it does on Nick Clegg. It is important not to


underestimate -- underestimate the degree to which he is personally


invested in this. We have to leave it there. Debut for being with us.


See you in September. -- thank you for being with us. It might as well


Rain Until September. It will! might have a nice September, that


is what they always say. What to do with the youth of today? It's a


perennial question, and with youth unemployment at just over a million,


a big problem for the government. But what if young people aren't


even up to the job and don't have the skills required for the


workplace? Well, one business man thinks he has the answer. Here's


Colin Smith, chairman of Poundland, To have worked in retell for most


of my life. Businesses that have employed tens of thousands and we


have sought to employ those who are motivated to work and to learn and


who are enthusiastic, confident and with an aspiration to succeed.


These are the ideal colleagues for any business, but finding them has


Recently, I read about a major supermarket recruiting staff for


everyday activities like working on the tail for serving customers. The


supermarket reported no problems in filling their positions, but three-


quarters of those higher it had to be sent for remedial creed job


training before they could start I've experienced similar problems.


Over the years, I've become disappointed at the inability of


young people to access job opportunities because of their lack


of basic but crucial life skills. The ability to communicate with


people other than their close friends. The capacity to work


together and to co-operate with people they might not have met


before. The willingness to listen to the opinions of others. And even


the ability to turn up for work on Business leaders must play their


part in preparing young people for work. They need to open their doors


to young people, even if it is only for a few hours, to give them an


insight into what work really is. They need to become involved in


schemes in their communities, such as the challenge, to help generate


the next generation of business leaders, to give young people a


stake in society, and a feeling of self-worth and a chance to succeed


in whatever they do. We are joined by Colin Smith. You


mentioned the challenge, which is a charity you run. What does it do?


It runs intensive programmes for young people, 15 and 16 year-olds.


It helps them learn how to build relationships, to improve their


understanding of other people from a wide variety of backgrounds, and


also built the really important soft skills, teamwork, leadership,


and building confidence. One of the things we dust -- discussed before


is the number of Saturday jobs have diminished over the years for 16


year-olds, the really young people. Milk rounds are not there any more.


And paper rounds. Just the idea of getting up in the morning and going


out to work, even if it is only a couple of days a week. That is a


real issue. When I was a youngster, obviously a long time ago, I worked


as a petrol pump attendant. That is why I am encouraging businesses


across the country to really get involved in opening their doors at


young people. Even if it is only for a few hours a week. Her what


has at the response been from businesses? Are vague King to take


people on in the way Woolworths used to? For I think they are, a


young people have to work really hard at opening up those


opportunities. They have to learn those skills to do with personal


presentation, positive attitude, communication, teamwork. They need


to be given the opportunity to learn those skills and learn the


worth Beckett -- worth -- work ethic. Has it always been the case


that young people don't have much in terms of communication skills?


They are not very good with adults and it is just that they have not


had the opportunities to practise rather than failures in education


or parenting? I don't think we can look at any one issue like failure


in education or parenting. This is an issue for everybody. I really do


feel that we've all got to work together to create the opportunity


to give them the level of experience they are going to need


to go into the workplace. What do you think of the idea of some sort


of compulsory Voluntary Service for National Service or something that


would force young people to give service to the community. We've


introduced the National Citizen Service, which is not voluntary,


but has had to take up in the areas it has started. VAT is quite good


because it helps children meet people from different backgrounds,


maybe do things they are not used to doing, it helps with things like


teamwork and leadership. You are a supporter of that. Absolutely.


other thing we have been trying to encourage is a large number of new


a sprinter ships to give people on the job training as well as


training in the academic environment. Those are helpful. And


encourage young people to go into the workforce. I meet a lot of


young people who want to succeed. It is about giving them the


opportunities. Thank you. Jesse Norman tweeting that the


rumours of his demise are much exaggerating. That is from Mark


Twain. For I didn't know what you meant! Military head was not on. --


my literary head. PMQs, we have just watched the last one until


September. How will we cope? These people are bitterly disappointed


they can't watch it from the comfort of the Daily Politics


studio until the autumn. We will invite them! Here is Quentin Letts


with his guide to the main event of P is for PMQ use, Prime Minister's


Questions, held in the House of Commons once a week. This is the


chance for the Leader of the Opposition to have a good old go at


the Prime Minister and for the PM to have a go back. Both men looking


for a one-line singer which will be picked up by the media. The Prime


Minister of our country can't even urge his party to support his own


position. A weak, weak, weak. grammar-school boy is not going to


take any lessons from that public school boy. How I want to talk


about the future. He was the future once. Until the 1960s, prime


ministers did not have regular a poor month and the House of Commons


because they were not responsible for any single government


department, but in 1961 comes this important innovation, P&G is. In


that very first session, Harold Macmillan says, I am grateful to


the honourable member about what he said on the arrangement of


questions. This arrangement suits me much better because I know when


to come here. Good old Harold! People sometimes alleged that he


and Hughes is too rowdy, too raucous, that it means parliament.


I don't know about that. It was ever thus. I've been covering the


Commons since the last days of Mrs Thatcher and it was noisy then.


BBC's radio coverage goes to 1978. Pretty noisy then. And in 1983, Mrs


Thatcher, Prime Minister. The right net -- right honourable member is


afraid of an election, is he? Frightened. Can't stand it.


Frightened! Bakelite headphones like these yielded to the goggle


box in the late 1980s when TV coverage started. Viewers watching


pm queues could see something rather odd. Backbenchers ball-


winning to their feet as if they were on poco States. They were


trying to catch the Speaker's eye, trying to say I want to ask the


Prime Minister a question. The first 10 minutes or so, the Leader


of the Opposition has his go. Once he has spent his bullets, it is the


turn of backbenchers, some of whom are guaranteed ago after a weekly


ballot, but after that it is everyone to him or herself. This


can be a terrible tyrant and PMQs televised is arguably one of the


reasons for us so many sound bites. But this weekly scrutiny of the


Prime Minister is a good thing. It gets used reviewers interested in


what is going on in Parliament. PMQs is still very much a big


potato of the House of Commons week. J B potato! -- a big potato!


You said you wanted the Prime Minister to renegotiate the


coalition agreement, what did you mean by that? Most coalition's mid-


term have a review and from a party political point of view, the Lib


Dems and the Conservatives need to take a look at it agreement. Times


are changing, new issues are emerging. A calm sensible look at


it would be useful. After today's PMQs, who heads off to Tuscany with


a bigger spring in their step, Labour or the coalition?


Undoubtedly Labour are going home more cheerful. As ever, you have an


opposition leader looking a bit Blyth, a bit unconcerned about what


is happening to the country, but very smooth. A prime minister


getting very frustrated that things are not going his way. It was like


that today, but we had a spectacular moment on the


backbenches. And Mary Morris from Newton Abbot... You may remember


this, Andrew. There used to be a lady called Dame Ellen...


Terrifically Batty! You may say that! I couldn't possibly comment.


Did you know you were going to be called and is as important your


profile as an MP to have got that question out? We are talking about


it on network television. I think she did a great job asking the


question, there was real passion. The chamber was rowdy and raucous,


but she did a fantastic job and David landed the question smoothly.


-- handled. I had not expected to be called, but I did feel it was


important to raise the issue. We are halfway through a coalition now


and there are clearly tensions emerge and. It is important,


particularly for the Conservatives, to give some input into what


happens next. Quentin, you have described our guest here, Mark


Harper, as an MP who could pass for it door-to-door Bible salesman! Was


there to complement or an insult? You sense with him that he might


smell like toothpaste, he is very, very clean. He did very well


yesterday, he might have sold a few Bibles yesterday, but it was not


good enough for the coalition. you both assure us that the Speaker


is losing his campaign to make PMQs less noisy? He has lost it, it was


loud and raucous. We could not hear the questions. But he did his best.


We thank you both for that. The last PMQs for this parliamentary


term. You are not a door-to-door salesman. Only in the sense that


all politicians a door-to-door salesman for their own parties. I'm


very relaxed. Quinton and I get on very well. Most politicians are


pleased to be written about. It is time to put you out of your misery


and give you the answer to guess the year. It was 1970. Tessa, press


that red button. This is the winner. Sue Middleton from Norfolk. He was


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