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Good afternoon. Welcome to this day the politics leader's speech


conference special. The leader in question of course Ed Miliband, the


labour leader walking through the rainy windswept streets of


Manchester. A lot hanging on the speech today, not only has he said


he will give a sense of direction as to where Labour is going, but he


will make us think more kindly about him. His personal poll


ratings not that high at the moment, so this is an attempt to connect


with the labour faithful and the British public. This will be geared


towards the voters as well as the people in Manchester. He had got to


get from the Midlands hotel across to this imposing conference centre


in the heart of Manchester itself. Labour speeches always on Tuesday


afternoon in modern times, that is when the highlight of a Labour


conference takes place. I am going to be out and about on the


conference floor finding out what delegates want to be hearing, and


whether they have heard it. That is coming up. We will be with you for


the next two hours. Keeping us company, John Reid. Why do you


think Ed Miliband is struggling to connect with the British people?


you are talking about the poll this morning, it was a telephone poll


and every time you ask in any poll who looks more like prime minister,


then people say the Prime Minister. The night before Thatcher won the


election, Callaghan was 24% ahead on the same question. Gordon Brown


was well ahead of David Cameron on the same question, and yet both of


those obviously lost. That is not the question. Appalled at the


weekend showed Labour only had a lead of 5%. One last week showed


they had a lead of 15%. question was about whether he would


make a good prime minister, 63% said no. Another one, do you think


Ed Miliband is doing well or badly? 28% said he was doing well. In


every poll under the sum they are saying the same thing so why it is


he struggling? You will know when you ask people who do you trust


most, Ed Miliband comes out ahead of the Prime Minister. Who is more


in touch with your feelings of local people's problems, Ed


Miliband comes out ahead. That is not to say he is where he would


want to be, and I declare an interest. I voted for David


Miliband two years ago, but give Ed Miliband his credit because people


predicted there would be a feud, we were going to decline and so on. He


stabilised the party, he unified the party, he has proved competent


enough position on big issues, we are 10% ahead on average on the


polls you mention. It may be getting lower. The trend is about


10%. Whether that is because we are very attractive or because the


government looks incompetent, and then of course there is a question


over that. Nevertheless, you have to give him credit. He has scaled


the foothills. Has he climbed the mountain? No, he hasn't. The said


the poll that asks the question who they trust and the polls show Ed


Miliband, but in the key issue of the economy, despite the current


state of the British economy, which is not exactly glowing, British


people still trust David Cameron and George Osborne more than Ed


Miliband or Ed Balls - don't you find that remarkable? 5% more, last


year it was 15% more so there has been a movement in that direction


as well. If you ask me why that is, I think to be truthful that we lost


the argument. I think we should have won the argument the year


after the election. When we were electing a new leader and so on,


there was an argument raging about why we were in this position in the


deficit, and the deficit was not the cause. It was not the cause of


a world recession. That is what the Conservatives implied. No, the


argument is that because the deficit was still high after 10


years of growth as it was at the time, that we weren't in a good


enough shape to deal with the financial crisis. That is incorrect.


Before 2008, the deficit in the UK was no higher than it had been when


the Conservatives left office. It had gone down initially, then came


up, but the deficit that we now face was the consequence of a world


recession, and in intentional decision to spend money during that


early terrible recession in order to stop unemployment spiralling out


of control. Having said that, we didn't win that argument in that


crucial 12 months after the election. The Conservatives


repeatedly implied that it was free-spending Labour who had caused


the world recession. Obviously a Labour government would not going


to cause a world recession, but they won the argument and therefore


Ed Miliband has to overcome that deficit, and in the last 12 months


the difference between confidence in the Conservative government's


economic policy and our policy has narrowed but they are still ahead.


Let me interrupt you because I think we have got Ed Miliband going


into the Conference Centre in Manchester. A lot of people are


waiting for him anyway. We have spotted him. He has gone down the


other way again. Where is he going? This is an excellent shot. You just


have to be patient, people at home, and wait. These people are waiting


to see if anything comes. It is like Spot the Ball competition. The


flashing lights could be at low. Good things are worth waiting for.


There he is with his wife, Justine. The speech has been written for


quite some time, and to give it a personal torch he has been using


her lifelong friend to help him on the personal parts where he wants


to get across Ed Miliband this human. That will be part of his


mission today. The couple ready for that big conference speech. If he


is on time, he will be speaking in about five minutes.


Let us get a sense of the mood in the build-up to the speech, and


speak to two journalists. This has been billed as a getting to know Ed


Miliband speech - he has a lot to do to persuade people they know


that he is a prime minister in waiting. It is true. I was


listening to John Reid wrangling about polling figures, but that


evidence does matter and it is worrying to Ed Miliband and his


team. We ran a poll at the weekend asking if people could imagine him


as Prime Minister and less than 30% people cord. It is what I call the


closing your eyes test. Voters have to imagine him standing on the


threshold of Number 10. It is always difficult for leaders of the


opposition, but one of his important tasks this afternoon is


that more people by the end of this afternoon could imagine Prime


Minister Ed Miliband. Does that mean that this speech has to be


less about Concepts, predators and producers, and more about straight


forward message to the people in the hall and out in the country?


The exactly, he can't do another sociology essay. He has got to


spring to life. The word is that he will spring to life, he will do the


walking and talking been showing he can move without any strings. The


drawback is that he will have to see if he can time his speech. If


not, we might be here until 6 o'clock, reminiscing how tough he


had it in his comprehensive. This is a big gamble. It is a difficult


thing to do if you are not trained as a stage actor. If he pulls it


off it will help. He you are right about the abstract concept. I hope


somebody went through that speech and whenever they found an abstract


noun, they took it out. I think it is refreshing that he is interested


in political ideas like responsible capitalism, but then you have to


turn it into language taking it out of the seminar room and taking it


into people's living rooms, which means talking in populist language.


Mrs Thatcher did not quote literature in speeches, instead she


told people she would sell their council houses. If you look at the


back row with the economy in the doldrums, coalition having a string


of difficulties since the Budget, it is a big opportunity for him.


Fraser Nelson talks about a gamble, he has got to seize it, hasn't he?


Sure, and we will see just here how he manages to connect. What will he


do to say we are on your side? I suspect there will be a lot of hits


that the Tories. We had Tom Watson gearing their more saying we are


ordinary people talking ordinary language, unlike these Etonians. I


think in this speech we will hear a lot of attacks at the Tories saying


they are out of touch. So are we going to hear a lot about the


Tories' or criticisms, but what will he say about Labour and where


they are going? Doesn't he need to build up the narrative for Labour?


I think he does. Some people laugh saying where are the policies? But


one of the advantages for Labour is they know where the finishing line


is for this Parliament, and it is still some time away in the spring


of 2015. If you have any good ideas in your manifesto, the coalition


we'll nick it, if they have any sense. You start to come forward


with some emblematic policies to illustrate your values and your


direction of travel. Thank you, enjoy the speech.


Shall we resume our Wrangle? They have civilised conversations, we


have wrangling. Let me come back to this position of Ed Miliband in


trying to connect with the country. Trying to portray him as an


ordinary comprehensive school chap, we know that is not true. He does


come from a different kind of elite from David Cameron, a different


kind of social elite, but it was a pretty elitist background. I'm sure


when you were a child you didn't have dinner with Tony Benn, or E P


Thompson. In the case of Tony, perhaps I am lucky. The idea of


showing somebody in terms of the personality and background is not


new. Sue Hodson produced the famous movie... John Major went back to


Brixton. In a chauffeur-driven car, passing the house he grow up in.


You are right, Ed Miliband came from a family, which in many ways


was disadvantaged because it was an immigrant family, book in some ways


was academically and intellectually separate from the mainstream of


people. That is not a bad idea. There is a degree of anti-


intellectualism goes on, I don't think it should be a prerequisite


of the Prime Minister that you are stupid and incapable of analysis.


The complaint is that he does come from, in his own way, different


from David Cameron, but he does come from a privileged background


in a different way, so why deny it? This is where I would agree with


what Andrew said, the keep in my experience, the keep in political


communication is the capacity to think in an intellectual complex


fashion, but to translate that into language with which people can


relate and respond to. Which Tony Blair was good at it.


was a master at it. Clinton was a master as well. Margaret Thatcher


was not bad either. And yet she was derided before she was Prime


Minister as being a stupid woman who spoke in over simplistic ways.


Nick Robinson is in Manchester for us. I guess what we have been told


- we have been told quite a lot about this Speech. We will get a


sense of direction about where Labour is going to go under Mr


Miliband. We are going to get a sense of Mr Miliband, the man and


where he comes from? And above all, we will get a slogan, a slogan that


has enormous historical resonance, not least in this city. 100 yards


that way is the site of what was Manchester's Free Trade Hall. Not


just the suffragettes, but Benjamin Disraeli, he declared he was in


favour of one nation values. Today, rather cheekily, Ed Miliband will


try and claim that historic Tory label of "one nation" and use it


for himself, claiming David Cameron and the coalition are dividing the


nation and only he and Labour can bring it together again. Why is he


doing that? I saw that in the draft exerts we got -- draft excerpts we


got? Why will that resonate for Labour in the country? Those two


words don't mean a whole lot to many people watching this programme.


Yet, they have got enormous political historical resonance.


They are a bit of symbolism. They were symbolic in the 1980s for


those Tories who opposed Mrs Thatcher. They were a code of


saying, "We are in favour of keeping the country together, not


dividing it by the economic policies of the time." More left-


wing than Mrs Thatcher. It was a bit of code borrowed by Tony Blair


in the 1990s who repeatedly described himself as "one nation"


as a way of saying it was not older, not the Labour Party that divided


the country between the bosses and the workers, between North and


South, he was saying a Labour Party that brought people together. Ed


Miliband is doing two things: One dealing with the suggestion that he


is Red Ed, he is a left-wing Leader of the Labour Party, by saying, "No,


I'm taking the language of the centre." Secondly, trying to occupy


territory that he senses David Cameron has vacated, by moving away


from, if you like, the hug a hoodie, or hug a husky early Cameron we saw


when he was focusing on modernising his party. I don't think Mr


Disraeli ever hugged a hoodie or a husky in the time. The Labour


analysis of moving on to one nation ground, Labour believes Mr Cameron,


he is a very right-wing Prime Minister. I'm not sure the rest of


the country - they may not like him, that is another matter - but I


don't think they don't regard him as Thatcherite. They probably do


see him as within the one nation tradition of Tory politicians?


think Ed Miliband will try and challenge that today. Yes. He will


argue the cuts programme is not only not working in its own right,


in other words you will hear the Labour Leader say repeatedly,


"Borrowing is going up this year rather than going down" but he will


claim that David Cameron has abandoned those one nation Tory


clothes. He used to talk about being a green Tory, now he isn't.


Now, of course, look, the difficulty with a phrase like "one


nation", it can mean virtually anything to anybody. If you are a


leader who has decided, as Ed Miliband has, not to spell out much


in the way of new policy, not to give your prospectus and because


you haven't a clue what the economy will look like by the next general


election, then you have to go for some sort of narrative. That is


what he is doing. He is giving us a narrative about himself. Will we


get more of a sense - we are not looking for fast and firm policies.


The election is two-and-a-half years away. Will we get a sense of


the direction that a Labour Government under Mr Miliband would


take? Only in the broadest terms, I think. There is a bit of a debate


going on in the margins of this Conference about whether Ed


Miliband and the Labour Party have given us quite a lot of a sense of


that direction, or not. The argument in their favour is to say


by saying you will take on the banks, which he will say again


today, or the energy companies, or the pension companies, you are


giving people an impression of the way you will go. You are above all


saying, "This is how you can make a difference to people's lives as a


centre-left party without relying on turning on the top of public


spending." The counter is one that will say, "No Government to the


left of the centre-left has had to deal with so little public money.


There are extraordinarily dramatic choices that have to be made in


public spending." If you don't spell that out, the public will


have no real idea what you will do in office. Ed Miliband doesn't need


to do that. He needs to highlight where the Government has gone wrong.


He needs to resell himself and his personal story to the public. He


needs to give a broad sense of direction. We may have to jump into


the Hall quite soon - it is getting close to the start of the speech.


There was a poll that showed the Labour lead was down to five points.


Another one today showing it down to three points. Are they


dismissing these polls as rogues? Is there some concern about a


dwindling Labour lead? I'm sorry, I will have to - hold that question.


I will come back and get you. We will have to go into the Hall. They


are giving him a standing ovation. There he is. A nice blue background


- I suppose that goes with the one nation theme of his speech. That is


Mrs Miliband there. We will see if Fraser Nelson has got it right. It


looks like he is going to walk around the lectern. APPLAUSE


Andy Burnham applauding him. The Shadow Health Secretary. A packed


hall. It's in an historic part of Manchester, this. Here is the


Leader of the Opposition, Ed Miliband.


It is great to be in Labour Manchester. APPLAUSE You know,


Manchester has special memories for me. Two years ago, I was elected


the leader of this party. I'm older - I feel a lot older actually!


LAUGHTER I hope I'm a bit wiser. I am prouder than ever to be the


leader of the Labour Party. APPLAUSE


You may have noticed that doing this job you get called some names.


Some of them nice. Some of them not so nice. Let me tell you my


favourite. It was when Mitt Romney came to Britain and called me "Mr


Leader". LAUGHTER I don't know about you, but I think it has a


certain ring to it myself. It's sort of half-way to North Korea.


Mitt, thanks a lot for that(!) Look, let me tell you a little insight


into Conference. I always look forward to Conference. But the


leader's speech, as previous leaders will attest, can be a bit


of a trial. You get all kinds of advice from people. Say this, don't


say that, smile here, don't smile there, stand there, don't stand


there. Thanks, Tony, Gordon and Neil for that! LAUGHTER But


sometimes you get a bit fed up with it as a leader. So the other day -


and this is a true story - I decided that to get away from it


all, the speech-writing - I would go for a walk with my three-year-


old son, Daniel. It was a gorgeous late summer day. So we went out, I


wanted to go to the park. Here's the first thing he said to me.


"Daddy, I can help you with your speech." I was like, "Not you as


well!" Look, he is a Miliband after all. LAUGHTER He said to me, "Daddy,


you can't do it on your own." This is true. I said, "That is a good


Labour insight. You can't do it on your own. Daniel, what do you want


in my speech?" He said, "I want dinosaurs!" LAUGHTER He said, "I


want dinosaurs. I want flying dinosaurs. I want dinosaurs that


eat people, daddy." I said, "No, Daniel, we tried predators last


year!" APPLAUSE Look, only one problem - where's my speech? I want


to do something different today. I want to tell you my story. I want


to tell you who I am, what I believe and why I have a deep


conviction that together we can change this country. My conviction


is rooted in my family's story. A story that started 1,000 miles from


here. The Milibands haven't sat under the same oak tree for the


last 500 years. Both of my parents came to Britain as immigrants.


Jewish refugees from the Nazis. I know I would not be standing on


this stage today without the compassion and tolerance of our


great country, Great Britain. APPLAUSE


You know, my parents saw Britain rebuilt after the Second World War.


I was born in my local National Health Service hospital. The same


hospital my two sons would later be born in. As you saw in the film, I


went to my local school, I went to my local comprehensive with people


from all backgrounds. I still teaching I got at that school. And


one of my teachers, my English teacher, Chris Dunn, is here with


us today. Thank you, Chris, and to all of the teachers. APPLAUSE It


was a really tough school. But order was kept by one of the


scariest head mistresses you could possibly imagine, Mrs Jenkins. You


know what, I learnt at my school about a lot more than how to pass


exams. I learnt how to get on with people from all backgrounds,


whoever they were. I wouldn't be standing on this stage today


without my comprehensive school education. APPLAUSE


So, Britain gave me, gave my family, a great gift that my parents never


had, a safe and secure childhood. You know, my parents didn't talk


much about their early lives. It was too painful. It hurt too much.


The pain of those they lost, the guilt of survivors. But I believe


that their experience meant they brought up both David and myself


differently as a result. Having struggled for life itself, they


instilled in us a sense of duty to ease the struggles of others. And


this came not just from my parents' wartime experience, it came from


the daily fabric of our childhood. There were toys and games, rows


about homework. I was a Dallas fan, believe it or not, which didn't go


down well with my Dad, as you can imagine! LAUGHTER So of course


there were the normal things. But every upbringing is special. And


mine was special because of the place of politics within it. When I


was 12 years old, I met a South African friend of my parents. Her


name was Ruth First. The image I remember is of somebody full of


life, full of laughter, and then I remember a few months later coming


down to breakfast and seeing my Mum in tears. Ruth had been murdered by


a letter bomb from the South African Secret Police, murdered for


being part of the anti-apartheid movement. I didn't understand the


ins and outs of it. I was shocked, I was angry. I knew that wasn't the


way the world was meant to be. I knew I had a duty to do something


about it. It is this upbringing that has made me who I am. A person


of faith. Not a religious faith, but a faith none the less. A faith


that I believe many religious people would recognise. So here is


my faith. I believe we have a duty to leave the world a better place


than we found it. I believe we cannot shrug... APPLAUSE


I believe we cannot shrug our shoulders at injustice and say,


"That is the way the world is." I believe that we can overcome any


odds if we come together as people. That is how... You see, that is how


my Mum survived the war. The kindness of strangers. Nuns in a


convent who took her in and sheltered her from the Nazis. They


took in a Jewish girl at risk to themselves. It is what my Dad found


when he came to these shores and joined the Royal Navy and was part


of Britain winning the war. Now, of course, my parents didn't tell me


what career to go into. My late father, as some of you know,


wouldn't agree with many of the things I stand for. He would have


He would have been a little bit disappointed that it was untrue. My


mum probably doesn't agree with me either, but like most mothers is


too kind to say so. I wasn't certain I wanted to be a politician


but I believe the best way to be true to my faith and give back to


Britain is through politics. That is not a fashionable view today,


because millions of people have given up on politics. They think we


are all the same. I guess you could say I'm out to prove them wrong.


That is who I am. That is who I am, that is what I


believe, that is my faith. I know who Britain, who I need to serve in


Britain with my faith. It is the people I have met on my journey as


leader of the opposition, the people who come up to me on trains,


in the street, in shops, who ask me about what the Labour Party is


going to do for them and tell me the stories of their lives. It is


for them, the people I have met on my journey, that today's speech is


4. I think of a woman I met earlier this year, she was brimming with


hopes and ambitions for the future. She was full of life, she was fall-


off desire to get on and do the best for herself. Then she told me


her story. She had sent off her CV to 137 employers and she had not


had a reply from any of them. Many of you in this audience will know


people in the same position. Just think how that crushes the hopes of


a generation. I want to talk to her, to a generation of young people who


feel that Britain under this government is not offering them the


future. I think back to the small


businessman I met in July, a proud man called Alan Henderson, the


small businessman. Let me tell you his story. He spent 40 years


building up his sign making business. 40 years. He told me his


story. He went to see his bank manager in 1972 at his local high-


street bank. He got a loan and he started his business, but something


terrible happened to Alan Henderson and his family a few years back. He


was ripped off by the bank he had been with all that time and his


family have been living through a nightmare ever since. I want to


talk to him and the people of Britain who feel they are at the


mercy of forces beyond their control. I want to talk to the


people of this country who have always thought of themselves as


comfortably off, but now find themselves struggling to make ends


meet. They ask why is it that when the oil price goes up, the petrol


price goes up, but when the oil price comes down the petrol price


just stays the same? May ask why is it that the gas and electricity


bills just go off -- go up? An why can the privatised train companies


can make so much profit at the same time as the fares rising every year.


They ask why is it? They think the system just doesn't work for them.


And you know what? They are right, it doesn't. It doesn't work for


them because of cosy cartels and powerful interests that the


government have not cut down to size. I want to talk to them and


the millions of people across our country who feel they don't get a


fair crack of the whip. I want to say to them, yes our problems are


deep, but they can be overcome. The problems about whom Britain is won


4 and who prospers within it. One rule for those at the top, another


for everybody else. Two nations, not one. I want to say to them


today it is not the Britain you believe in, not the Britain I


believe in, not the Britain this party will ever be satisfied with.


Friends, we are going to change it, and here is how. My faith that we


can start with the inner strength of us as a country. The problem is


not the British people. Just think about the Olympics and the


Paralympic Games. It was a triumph for Britain. Why did we succeed? We


succeeded because of our outstanding athletes. From Zara


Phillips, the granddaughter of a parachuting Queen, to a boy born in


Somalia called Mo Farah. Mo Farah, a true Brit, a true hero to our


country. We succeeded because of the outstanding volunteers, the


game's makers who we are here with They put a mirror up to Britain and


showed the best of ourselves. We succeeded because of our


outstanding troops, many of whom were drafted in at the last minute,


and let's today pay tribute to their bravery, their courage and


sacrifice in Afghanistan and all round the world.


Let's say to them, just as you do our duty by us in the most


courageous way possible, so we will always do our duty by you, both in


military and civilian life. We succeeded because of our


outstanding police, and let us in this city of Manchester show our


appreciation for what the extraordinary policemen and women


of our country do for our country. And we succeeded, and this is a


real lesson, we succeeded because of a group of individuals who saw


the odds against London's bid and thought never mind the orchids. We


are going to pioneer the bidding for London. We are going to win the


bid for London, from Sebastian Coe to our very own game Tessa Jowell.


You know what, friends? We succeeded because of one reason


more than any other, we succeeded because of us. We succeeded because


of us. Us, the British people. Us, who welcome the athletes from


abroad, who cheer them on, who found ourselves talking to each


other every morning about what had happened in the Olympics the night


before in a way we hadn't spoken to each other before. We succeeded


because we came together as a country, we worked together as a


country. That is why we achieved more than we imagined possible. You


know, I will just tell you this. I can't remember a time like it in


the whole history of my lifetime. I can't remember a time like it. That


sense of a country united, that sense of a country that felt it was


together. That is the spirit this Labour Party believes in.


I may not remember that spirit, but that spirit has echoed through


British history. 140 years ago, to the year, another leader of the


opposition gave a speech. It was in the free trade war that used to


stand opposite this building. His name was Benjamin Disraeli, he was


a Tory, but don't let that put you off, just for a minute. His speech


took over three hours to deliver and he... Don't worry! And he drank


two whole bottles of brandy while delivering it. That is true! I want


to say I know a speech that long would kill you, and the brandy


would definitely kill me, but let's remember what he was celebrated for.


It was a vision of Britain, where patriotism, loyalty, dedication to


the common cause courses through the veins of everyone and nobody


feels left out. It was a vision of Britain coming together to overcome


the challenge as we face. Disraeli called it one nation. We heard that


phrase again as the country came together again to defeat fascism,


and again as the Labour government rebuilt Britain after the war.


Friends, I didn't become leader of the Labour Party to reinvent the


world of Disraeli, but I do believe in that spirit of one nation. One


nation, a country where everyone has a stake. One nation, a country


where prosperity is shared fairly, One nation where we have a shared


destiny, and a common life that we lead together. That is my vision of


one nation. That is my vision of Britain. That is the Britain we


must become. And here is the genius of one nation. It doesn't just tell


us the country we can be, it tells us how we can rebuild. We won the


war because we were one nation, we built the piece because the


Government understood we needed to be one nation. We have only come


through the storm because we were one nation, but too often


governments have forgotten that lesson. With 1 million young people


out of work, we just can't succeed as a country. With the gap between


rich and poor growing wider, we just can't succeed as a country.


With millions of people feeling that hard work and effort are not


rewarded, we just can't succeed as a contrary. And with so many people


having been told for so long that the only way to get on is to be on


your own, in it for yourself, we just can't succeed as a country.


Yes, friends... To come through the storm, to


overcome the challenges we face, we must rediscover that spirit. That


spirit that British people never forgot, that spirit of one nation.


One nation, a country where everyone plays their part, a


APPLAUSE So, here is the big question of


today. Who can make us one nation? Who can bring Britain together?


What about the Tories? LAUGHTER What about the Tories? I didn't


hear you! What about the Tories? AUDIENCE:


Let me explain why. I want to talk very directly to those who voted


for David Cameron at the last general election. I understand why


you voted for him. I understand why you turned away from the last


Labour Government. This Government took power in difficult economic


times. It was a country still coming to terms with the financial


crisis. A financial crisis that has afflicted every country around the


world. I understand why you were willing to give David Cameron the


benefit of the doubt. But I think we've had long enough to make a


judgment. Long enough to make a judgment because they have turned a


recovery into the longest double- dip recession since the war.


Because there are more people looking for work for longer than at


any time since the last time there was a Conservative Government.


APPLAUSE And here is the other thing. What about borrowing?


Borrowing. The thing they said was their number one priority. This


year, borrowing is rising, not falling. Let me say that again.


Borrowing, the thing they said was the most important priority, the


reason they were elected. It is rising, not falling. Not because


there hasn't been pain and tax rises and cuts affecting every


family in this country. Not because they didn't want to cut borrowing -


they did. Not because your services aren't getting worse - they are.


But because if you stop an economy growing, then it leaves more people


out of work claiming benefits, not paying taxes, businesses struggle,


so they are not paying taxes. As a result, borrowing goes up.


Borrowing - not to invest in schools and hospitals and transport


and education, but borrowing to keep people idle. So the next time


you hear a Conservative say to you, "Labour would increase borrowing"


just remember it is THIS Government that is increasing borrowing this


year. APPLAUSE So what have we seen? We have seen


recession, higher unemployment, higher borrowing. I don't think


that's what people were promised. Look, there will be some people who


say - and this is an important argument - some people will say,


"Well, there is short-term pain, but it's worth it for the long-term


gain." I'm afraid the opposite is true. You see, the longer you have


low growth in our country, the bigger the debt hole becomes for


the future and the bigger our problems will be in the future. The


longer a young person is out of work, that's not just bad for their


prospects now, it is bad for their prospects for the whole of the rest


of their lives. If a small business goes under during the recession, it


can't just get up and running again during the recovery. So when David


Cameron says to you, "Well, let's carry on as we are and wait for


something to turn up" don't believe him. Don't believe him. If the


medicine is not working, you change the medicine. I will tell you...


APPLAUSE And friends, I will tell you what else you change. You


change the doctor, too. That is Look around you, look around you.


You know, the problem is the British people are paying the price


of this Government's failure. You are going to the petrol station and


not filling up your tank because you can't afford it. Your tax


credits are being cut because the Government says it can't afford it.


Your frail Mum and Dad are not getting the care they need because


the Government says it can't afford it. But there are some things this


Government can afford. The wrong things. What do they think at this


most difficult economic time is going to get us out of our


difficulties? What do they choose as their priority? A tax cut for


millionaires. A tax cut for millionaires! Next April, David


Cameron will be writing a cheque for �40,000 to each and every


millionaire in Britain. Not just for one year, but each and every


year. That is more than the average person earns in a whole year. At


the same time as they are imposing a tax on pensioners next April.


Friends, we, the Labour Party, the country knows it is wrong, it is


wrong what they are doing. It shows their priorities. Here is the worst


part. David Cameron isn't just writing the cheques, he's receiving


one. LAUGHTER He is going to be getting the millionaires' tax cut!


APPLAUSE So next week, maybe Mr Cameron can tell us how much is he


awarding himself a tax cut? How much is that tax cut he's awarding


himself for a job I think he thinks is a job well done? How many of his


other Cabinet colleagues have cheques in the post from the


millionaires' tax cut? How can he justify this unfairness in Britain


2012? APPLAUSE Of course, let's not forget this


tax cut wouldn't be happening without Nick Clegg and the Liberal


Democrats. Isn't it shameful that the party that supported, that


implemented the People's Budget of 1909, is supporting the


millionaires' budget of 2012? That is the reality in Britain today. It


is a rebate for the top. It is a rip-off for everybody else. It is a


recovery for the top. It is a recession for everybody else. This


Prime Minister said, "We are all in it together." Don't let him ever


tell us again, "We are all in this together." Friends, I say this: You


can't be a one nation Prime Minister if you raise taxes on


ordinary families and cut taxes for millionaires. You can't be a one


nation Prime Minister if all you do is seek to divide the country,


divide the country between North and South, public and private,


those who can work and those who can't work. And you can't be a one


nation Prime Minister if your Chief Whip insults the great police


officers of our country by calling There's one thing that this


Government might have claimed to be good at. That's competence.


LAUGHTER After all, they think they are born to rule. So maybe they


would be good at it. Have you ever seen a more incompetent, hopeless,


out of touch, U-turning, pledge- breaking, make it up as you go


along, back of the envelope, miserable shower than this Prime


There's more. There's more. There's more. There's more. Not quite


Disraeli, but there's more! LAUGHTER What have we had? We've


had the caravan tax. We have had the churches tax. We have had the


pasty tax. We have had the granny tax. We have had panic at the pumps.


We have had dinner for donors. We have had Rebekah Brooks. He even


rode the horse! He sent the texts, remember, LOL. And now what do we


have? We have the Minister for Murdoch becoming the Minister for


the National Health Service. We have an International Development


Secretary. She says she doesn't believe in international


development. LAUGHTER And get this. We have a Party Chairman who writes


books about how to beat the recession under a false name.


Really, I'm not making this up. I am not making this up. I have to


say if I was chairman of the Conservative Party, I would have a


false name, too! LAUGHTER There it is. APPLAUSE But here is my


favourite one of all. There's one more. Here is my favourite one of


all. There's even a bloke - and I think they call him Lord Hill - he


went to see the Prime Minister, he made an appointment during the last


reshuffle in order to resign. But David Cameron was too incompetent


to notice that he wanted to resign, so Lord Hill is still in the


Government! LAUGHTER This lot are so useless they can't resign


properly! Look, they are not going to build one nation. So it is up to


us. Look, let me say to you one nation is not a way of avoiding the


difficult decisions, it is a way of making the difficult decisions. I


have to be very clear about this and about what faces the next


Labour Government. You see, I think it is incredibly important that to


be one nation we must show compassion and support for all


those who cannot work, particularly the disabled men and women of our


country. APPLAUSE But in order to do so, those who can work have a


responsibility to do so. We can't leave people languishing out of


work for one year, two years, three years. We have a responsibility to


help them and they have a responsibility to take the work


that is on offer. APPLAUSE To be one nation, to be one nation we've


got to give much greater dignity to our elderly population. You know,


we are going to have to tackle the care crisis that faces so many


families up-and-down this country. I mean, living longer should be one


of the great virtues of the 21st Century. But, friends, in order to


be able to afford to do that we are going to have to work longer, have


a later retirement age than we do now. To be one nation we've got to


live within our means. And because borrowing is getting worse, not


better, it means there will be many cuts that this Government made that


we just won't be able to reverse, even though we would like to. And


that's why we said in this Parliament that we would put jobs


in the next Parliament we will have tough settlements for the public


services. And that will make life harder for those who use them and


harder for those who work in them. But here's the big difference


between a one nation Government led by me and this current Government.


Those with the broadest shoulders will always bear the greatest


I would never cut taxes for millionaires and raise them on


ordinary families. That is wrong, that is not being one nation. Here


is the other thing, I would never accept an economy where the gap


between rich and poor just grows wider and wider. In one nation, in


my faith, inequality matters. It matters to our country. What does


it mean for the Labour Party to be one nation? It means we can't go


back to old Labour. We must be the party of the private sector just as


much as the party of the public sector, as much the party of the


small business struggling against the odds as the home help


We must be the party of the South just as much as the party of the


North. And we must be the party as much as the squeeze to middle as


those in poverty. There is no future for this party as the party


of one sectional interest of our country.


So, too, it is right to move on from New Labour because new Labour,


despite its achievements, was to silent about the responsibility of


those at the top, and too timid about the accountability of those


in power. In one nation, responsibility goes to the top of


society. The richest in society have responsibility to show


responsibility to the rest of our country. And I have got news for


the powerful interests in our country. In one nation, no interest


from Rupert Murdoch to the bank's is too powerful to be held to


account. So we must be a One nation party, to become one nation


government, to build a one nation Britain. Here is how we are going


to take some steps to do that. We need a One nation economy, and the


first big mission of the next Labour government is to sort out


our banks. Sort them out once and for all. Not just to prevent


another crisis, but to do what has not been done in decades. Necessary


to enable us to pay our way in the world. We need banks that serve the


country, not a country that serves its banks. Think about Alan


Henderson, the small businessman I talked about earlier on. He wanted


to be able to go into his bank, look his high-street manager in the


eye, and know that he was working for him. Instead he found a bank


more interested in playing the international money markets. That


is why he was ripped off. Of course this government promised change,


but things are not really changing so I have a message for the banks.


We can do this the easy way or the hard way. Either you fix it


yourselves between now and the election or the next Labour


government will make sure the high street bank is no longer the arm of


a casino operation and we will break you up by law.


There will be some people who say this is too radical, let's just


carry on as we are. I say we can't carry on as we are, we can't. Two


nations, not one. The banks and the rest of Britain. We must have a One


nation banking system as part of a One nation economy. Next, we need


an education system that works for all young people.


You see, to be a One nation economy, you have got to use the talents of


all our young people. It is not just that it is socially right, it


is essential for our economy in the future. I remember when Chris and


myself were at Haverstock School, my comprehensive. For kids who are


good at passing exams, they could go to university, and the world


would just open for them like it did for me. But think about those


kids who had talent and ability, great talent and ability, school


just didn't offer them enough. It was true twenty-five years ago and


it is even more true today. Just think in your minds eye about a 14


year-old today, not academic, already bored at school, may be


starting the process of truanting, not going to school. Of course,


they need to get back school and their parents need to get them back


to school. They can't drift through life with no qualifications, and


Britain can't afford for them to do it either, but we can't just say to


that 14 year-old "just put in that work" Because we have been failing


them as well. For a long time, our party has been focused about


getting 50% of young people into university. I believe that was


right but now it is time to put our focus on the forgotten 50% who do


not go to university. Here is the choice I want to offer


to that 14 year-old who was not academic. English and maths to 18


because rigour in the curriculum matters, but courses which are


relevant to them, work experience with employers, and culminating at


the age of 18 in a new gold standard qualification so they know


when they are taking that exam they have a gold standard Vocational


qualification, a new technical back up or a qualification to be proud


of. We have got to change the culture of this country, friends.


We can't be a country where vocational qualifications are seen


as second class. They are a real route to apprenticeships and jobs.


They can't be as valuable for young people as a university degree. We


need to make it so! We have got to change the culture in this country


and there needs to be that real route to apprenticeships. Let me


tell you there is another problem. Only one in three large employers


in Britain actually offers an apprenticeship. If anything, in the


public sector, the situation is far worse. That is about a culture of a


country. That is about a culture of the country which has not been


dealt with for decades. It is the task of the next Labour government


to do that. The public sector is going to have to step up to the


plate and understand that we can't be two nations. We can't be two


nations. When the public sector Office contract to the private


sector, the next Labour government will make sure that every private


sector contract will only be awarded to a company that trains


the next generation with apprenticeships.


Because when the public sector is having a contract with a private


sector company, it is not just buying goods and services, it must


be about building One nation together. Public and private


sectors joining together to do it. And weeny a new deal with British


business. -- we need. You set the standards, as you have long asked


for, but you have a responsibility to make sure the training happens.


In one nation, there is no place for free riding, free riding where


firms that don't train poach workers from firms that do. Think


about this vision of education. Education to the age of 18 with


proper vocational qualifications, and then think about the vision on


offer from the Conservatives. Michael Gove. Michael Gove. Michael


Gove, who wanted to bring back... I think I get the point! Michael Gove,


who wanted to bring back two-tier academic exams. I remember that


what that was like. O levels, a whole group of people written off.


We are not going back to those days. Michael Gove, who has contempt for


Vocational qualifications and has abolished some of the best


Vocational qualifications our country has. And Michael Gove who


has nothing to say about education to 18. In education, there really


is a choice of two futures. Education for a narrower elite with


the Conservatives or One nation still system as part of a One


nation economy with the next government.


To be a One nation economy, we have to make life just that bit easier


for the producers, and that bit harder for the predators. Predators


and producers. I think one year on people know what I was talking


about. You see, businesses tell me that the pressure for the fast buck


from City investors, they just can't take the long view. They want


a planned 10 years ahead but they have to publish their accounts in


Britain every three months in line with the wishes of the best of


British business. We will end that rule so British businesses can do


that. Companies in Britain are for more easily bought and sold than in


many other countries. Did you know that when a takeover is launched,


the speculators can swoop in for a quick profit. They are not acting


in the interests of firms or the nation, they are just in it for the


money and that is wrong. We will change it for the nation. Here is


that thing - I invite British business to work with us in advance


up the next Labour government. Let's have a One nation business


model as part of a One nation economy for our country. Friends,


in banks, in education, in the rules of the game for companies,


one nation gives an urgent call for change, but one nation is not just


about things we need to change, it is about things we need to conserve


as well. Saying that doesn't make me a Conservative. Our common way


of life matters. My vision of one nation is and out would looking


country, a country that engages with Europe and the rest of the


I'm incredibly proud to be the son of immigrant parents. I'm


incredibly proud of the multi- ethnic, diverse Britain which won


us the Olympic bid and the Olympic bid saw that kind of country here


in Britain. But to make that vision work, to make that vision work for


our country, immigration must work for all and not just for some.


Friends, too often in the past we've overlooked those concerns,


dismissed them too easily. Here is where my approach is going to be


different from the last Labour Government and this Conservative


Government. You see, we need secure management of our borders, we need


competent management of the system, but here's the big change. It is


about the way our economy works. You see, immigration has really


significant economic benefits, but not when it's used to undercut


workers already here and exploit people coming here. APPLAUSE Now,


the last Labour Government didn't do enough to address these concerns.


The Tories never will. So the next Labour Government will crackdown on


employers who don't pay the minimum wage. APPLAUSE We will stop


recruitment agencies just saying they are only going to hire people


from overseas. And we will end the shady practices in the construction


industry and else where of Gangmasters. APPLAUSE So we need a


system of immigration that works for the whole country and not just


for some. You know, there is no more important area of our common


life than the United Kingdom itself. One of our four countries, Scotland,


will be deciding in the next two years whether to stay or to go. I


want to be quite clear. Scotland could leave the United Kingdom. I


believe we will be far worse off as a result. Not just in pounds and


pence, but in the soul of our nation. APPLAUSE You see, I don't


believe that solidarity stops at the border. I care as much about a


young person unemployed in Motherwell as I do about a young


person unemployed here in Manchester. We have common bonds.


We have deep bonds with each other. The people of Scotland and the


people of the rest of the United Kingdom. By the way, if you think


about the people of Scotland and the Olympic Games, they weren't


cheering on just the Scottish athletes of Team GB, they were


cheering on all the athletes of Team GB. APPLAUSE That's what the


SNP don't understand. Why would a party that claims to be left of


centre turn its back on the redistribution, the solidarity, the


common bonds of the United Kingdom? Friends, it is up to us, it is up


to us. We, the Labour Party, must be the people who fight, defend and


win the battle for the United Kingdom. APPLAUSE After the United


Kingdom itself, there's no more important area of our common life


than the National Health Service. APPLAUSE The National Health


Service. The magic of the National Health Service for me is that you


don't leave your credit card at the door. The National Health Service


is based on a whole different set of values, a whole different set of


values that the people of Britain love. Not values of markets, money


and exchange. But values of competition, care and co-operation.


That is the magic of the National Health Service. That is why the


British people love the National Health Service. I'm afraid the


Tories have shown in Government that something they just don't


understand -- that is something they just don't understand.


Remember before the election? Remember those airbrushed posters?


"I'll protect the NHS" and there was that picture of David Cameron.


Remember those speeches, the three most important letters to me, he


said, were N-H-S. It was a solemn contract with the British people.


And then what did he do? He came along after the election and


proposed a top-down reorganisation that nobody voted for, that nobody


knew about and nobody wanted. This is the worst part. When it became


unpopular he paused - remember the pause? He said he wanted to listen.


What happened? The GPs said "no", the nurses said "no", the


paediatricians said "no", the radiologists said "no", the


patients said... AUDIENCE: No! And the British


people said? AUDIENCE: No! What did he do? He


ploughed on regardless. He broke his solemn contract with the


British people, a contract that can Let me tell you what I hate about


this reorganisation. Let me tell you what I hate. I hate the waste,


I hate the waste of billions of pounds at a time when the NHS has


its worst settlement, its most difficult settlement for a


generation. I hate the fact that there are 5,500 fewer nurses than


when David Cameron came to power. Think of what he could have done if


he hadn't spent billions of pounds on that top-down reorganisation and


had used the money to employ nurses rather than sacking them! APPLAUSE


But here's what I hate most of all. Here's what I hate most of all.


It's the whole way they designed this NHS reorganisation. It was


based on the model of competition that there was in the privatised


utility industry - gas, energy and water. What does that tell you


about these Tories? What does that tell you about the way they don't


understand the values of the NHS? The NHS isn't like the gas,


electricity and water industries. The NHS is the pride of Britain.


The NHS is based on a whole different set of values for our


country. Friends, it just shows that the old adage is truer now


than it ever was - you just can't trust the Tories on the National


So let me be clear, let me be clear. The next Labour Government will end


the free market experiment. It will put the right principles back at


the heart of the NHS and it will So, friends, this is where I stand.


This is who I am. This is what I believe. This is my faith. I was


talking to my Mum this morning, as you do before a big speech, and she


reminded me that her mother was born in a small Polish village in


1909. I went back to that village with my Mum about a decade ago.


2,000 people live there. It was quite an event having people from


England coming over. It feels a long way from that village and what


my parents experienced to this stage today. You see, Britain has


given my family everything. Britain has given my family everything.


Britain and the spirit, the determination, the courage of the


people who rebuilt Britain after the Second World War, and now the


question is asked again - who in this generation will rebuild


Britain for the future? Who can come up to the task of rebuilding


Britain? Friends, it falls to us. It falls to us, the Labour Party,


as it has fallen to previous generations of Labour Party


pioneers. To leave our country a better place than we found out.


Never to shrug our shoulders at injustice and to say that is the


way the world is. To come together, to join together as a country. It


is not some impossible dream. We have heard it. We have seen it. We


have felt it. That is my faith. One nation. A country for all with


everyone playing their part. A Britain we rebuild together. Thank


STUDIO: A confident Leader of the Opposition, Ed Miliband, he brings


his speech to an end. We spoke for more than an hour. He spoke without


notes. He didn't stumble once in that hour and five minutes. He was


confident throughout. He must have memorised huge chunks of it. And


other bits he probably ad libbed. They did not issue a speech in


advance to check against delivery, which suggests that not all of it


was memorised and that bits of it came to him as he went along, that


he had a structure. He began by talking about himself, about his


immigrant parents. He mentioned many times comprehensive education


- there's his wife joining him on the stage to take the applause. A


little kiss for him. The Labour Party will be happy with this


performance today. For many of them, it may have been above their


expectations. He came across better than he has at any time since he


became Leader of the Labour Party. He talked about his faith, not a


religious faith. But to leave the world a better place. There was, of


course, with all politicians these days, the lauding of the Olympics


and he talked about a country united. He invoked one Benjamin


Disraeli and his one nation Toryism as an example of bringing the


nation together. He got a standing ovation in the middle of his speech


for attacking the Tories as "a miserable shower". It was that line


which he built up to again, without any script notes, that brought the


Conference to its feet. A happy Ed Balls there. He applauds Mr


Miliband there. I suspect that Mr Miliband and the others around him


will be feeling very happy with the performance that he gave today. It


was short on policy. There were no new policies outlined. He did make


it clear that another Labour Government would take on the banks,


they would split the banks from their investment banking and the


retail banks that you and I use on the High Street. He would split


them. If they hadn't done it themselves by the time the next


Labour Government came to power, he would split them. He outlined - it


was briefed in the papers this morning - his plan for a technical


qualification, a vocational qualification of huge status on a


par with the academic qualifications that we used to have.


Out he comes, walking through - there's our BBC crew. They are


behind him! There's no escaping from the BBC on days like this! You


can see he is looking pretty happy with himself. He knows that he


pulled it off. It takes a lot of guts. Mr Cameron has done it, too.


Takes a lot of guts to stand up in front of a huge hall with the


nation's cameras on you without a note in your hand and deliver a


speech of overan hour. -- over an Firstly, let's get reaction from


you. What were the e-mails? The was general praise for his delivery.


There was a divided over the substance. One person said Ed


Miliband is really coming across as the most trustworthy, ethically


capable of leaders. Sarah in Surrey said what the uniting speech so far,


with a lot of humour as well. Roddy said Ed Miliband's training in


speeches and connecting to the public is showing through. The


problem is what he is saying looks instructed, and his stories appear


cringe worthy. One good point on his speaking - practice has


persisted, but whereas the substance? This one says 45 minutes


into the speech from Ed Miliband and there is not much in it.


Congratulating police, soldiers and the Olympics, most people would


agree with that, we want to know what he would do in the future.


Let's speak to Nick Robinson. Give me your initial impressions.


think this is a speech that will be remembered for its performance


double-fault. It was a feat of memory. He has been dismissed


before, but he wowed the hall, and I felt a sense of relief around me.


It was also memorable for the theme of one nation. It is audacious, it


has been done before by Tony Blair, but stealing this is an audacious


way of trying to fill the space Ed Miliband believes David Cameron has


vacated in the centre of British politics. In the end people will


say what is the substance? What you got is a direction of travel. He


would say you do know what he cares about, you know what he called his


faith and the detail will come later. After all, there is another


two of these to deliver before the next general election. He had to


speak to the party faithful and the wider country - I suspect those


around him think he has pulled off both. The air is no doubt about it,


in the hall there was the real sense they were sharing this with


him, willing him on. The fact he got two standing ovations during


the speech, one attacking the Tories, one about the NHS, told the


story. They laughed with him, they felt emotional with him when he


spoke about his parents. They took him into their bosom today, and he


gave the sort of performance that would make them think we could see


him fighting a general election. The last person to pull off that


sort of trick was David Cameron, the man who spoke with no notes


about British politics. Compare where Ed Miliband is now compared


with where he might have been. There was a danger after that


pretty dire defeat in 2010 that the Labour Party turned on itself, but


they haven't. There is an argument they might have done that even more


if the leader was David Miliband, someone's seen as a Blairite right-


wing person. There is another danger Ed Miliband has managed to


avoid which the Labour Party didn't avoid in the 80s, the wilderness


years, it is this - they are not being shrill. There was a sense


that they felt we could not believe they have been thrown out of power.


Ed Miliband today said I understand why people gave Conservative Party


a chance, they have just been found wanting. I think he will consider


this the case of job done. One more question, should we be encouraged


to see this in strategic terms as Ed Miliband placing his tanks


firmly on the centre ground, and even a slap in the face for the


union militants? He did talk about splitting the banks, the Governor


of the Bank of England is in favour of that, not particularly left-wing


policy. Widespread support in business across the country for


other things he said, is this a bid for the centre? It was certainly


meant to be, and he wouldn't mind if a couple of trade union leaders


said it was positively Blairite and they didn't like it. That is where


he wants to be positioned, and you can't really judge that positioning


until we know that policy detail. We have had a couple of aspirations


today, an aspiration to sort out the banks, to sort out the fact


there should be a better system of education and more apprenticeships.


Until we know exactly how that would be done, and we only got


hints of that today, it would be impossible to say whether he was


left or right, but what is clear is that Ed Miliband wanted to say as


loud as he could in the phrase that he knows people will understand, I


am in the centre, that is what the one nation code means. A lot of


people watching might say what does that phrase mean? It means he tells


you where he wants to be seen to be going, but yes of course the Tories


as early as next week in their conference will say no doubt hollow


words, he is not really committed to getting the deficit down. What


we may be seeing - I will leave you with this slightly horrendous


thought - I think we have just seen the beginning of the longest


election campaign in British history. I put on the facial


expression of horror. You can't see it now on the monitor. Nick


Robinson, thank you for that analysis. The no freeze frames on


you true. Your initial reaction to the speech? I have been listening


to and sometimes writing speeches for leaders of the Labour Party


since 1983 and that is up there with the best of them. I don't


think just because people were lowering their expectations in the


press, but it answered two big questions which were being asked


this morning. Ed Miliband didn't choose the questions, but they were


is he really a leader who can communicate with the country? And


he answered that today. It was a super speech in those terms. He


took a big risk because to try to ad-lib for one hour, yes he will


have rehearsed, but a lot of that obviously came from what he truly


believes. He took the complexity of his thinking and communicated it


simply in anecdotes. First question answered. Second question is,


whereas the Ed Miliband Labour Party positioned? I thought in


terms of his positioning, the one nation argument that the centre


identifying with aspirations and so on, I thought he was in the correct


political position. He probably won't like me saying this, but in


terms of his ability to communicate with an audience, I was asked


yesterday by a correspondent from the BBC as a final question - how


does he compare with Tony Blair? I said that is an unfair question,


there are very few politicians in Europe who can communicate the way


Tony Blair did. There were large sections of this today which


approximated an approach towards the ability in terms of his


presentation of Tony Blair to communicate and in politics to


reach out to everybody in terms of his one nation theme. There were


questions this morning for Ed Miliband to answer. He has answered


them with that speech. The did you say a BBC interviewer have tried to


trip you up? I asked me a forensic question, let me put it that way.


Let me go straight to shadow foreign secretary Douglas Alexander.


Welcome. How long has Benjamin Disraeli been Ed Miliband's


political hero? I think he answered that question today by saying his


mission was to build a one nation Britain. He was generous enough to


attribute the phrase to Benjamin Disraeli. It was issued several


decades ago, and he said even the speech would not convince your


viewers Ed Miliband is a conservative but he was making a


statement about what he believes, that we are at our best as British


people when they come together and the challenge of building a one


nation country is the defining mission of the next Labour


government. There is nothing new about it. Tony Blair in 1997, I


believe in Britain, one nation reborn. Tony Blair, 2004, New


Labour now wears the one nation mantle. Ed Miliband in February


this year, we need what you might call one nation banking. David


Cameron, we need one nation deficit reduction. Boris Johnson, I am a


one nation Tory. What's new? Firstly the ridiculousness of the


Conservatives are trying to claim the one nation went every day their


policies are dividing the nation. I make no apology for the continuity


that you suggested between the politics that we stood for in the


mid- 1990s when we won a majority together with the task of bringing


the country together after that election victory. Our job as the


Labour Party representing not just people in England, but in Scotland,


Wales and Northern Ireland, our job is to come up with policies that


bring people together. We have got more than a million of our young


people without work. You can have no credible claim to be a one


nation Conservative it you are overseeing one in five young people


in our country condemned to the scrapheap. Today what we heard from


Ed Miliband was the authentic Ed Miliband voice. This is his mission,


and I feel there are many people across the country who have been


waiting to hear that voice and that vision. The Tories have taken off


their one nation clothes, left them, and you have picked them up and run


away with them? They gave up any claim to be in this together when


they decided to write cheques for every millionaire in the country


for �40,000 next April whilst increasing taxes for pensioners. Ed


Miliband made it clear there will be tough decisions, but week as the


Labour Party believe those with the broadest shoulders should bear the


heaviest burden. That is a message to the country has been waiting to


here. Can I pick up on a line from the speech - you are saying to me


now that every millionaire in this country is going to get a cheque


for �40,000? If you look at the changes that were announced at the


last Budget in terms of the tax cut given to 45%, there will be


benefits of �40,000 for individual millionaires across the country.


what Ed Miliband will be getting a cheque for �40,000 as well? Income


tax is based on income. So why it are you talking about wealth? The


income tax... You have surfaced again and again. You know enough


about economics to know that this is not true. Income tax is on


income, so if you get paid a million, you will get �40,000, but


if you are simply were the million, you will not be - correct? I am


happy any other day of the week to have this conversation, but the


truth is there are many people who will be benefiting by �40,000 next


April. How many? I don't have the red book in front of me. There are


6000 people in this country earning over �1 million the year. Let me


finish the point, then I will come back to you because facts do matter


in politics. There are 310,000 millionaires in this country. It is


only the 6000 earning over �1 million who will be getting the


Facts matter. It is Mr Cameron's �40,000. He's made a conscious


decision... If you think, or if people watching this programme


think it is justifiable for those thousands of people to be getting


�40,000 tax cut while pensioners are paying more tax, I disagree.


You may well be right, you well know that wasn't my point. Let me


finish up with you on this. Do you see this as a move by a man who


says he isn't Red Ed at all to the centre ground? Listen, I have known


Ed for more than 20 years. I have been discussing this speech with


him for months. This is not a tactical move. This is a judgment


by Ed Miliband about what the country needs. All I would say to


you on the basis of my friendship and knowledge of the man, this was


the authentic voice of Ed Miliband. I think that is a message that is


well received here in Manchester. I hope and believe it will be well


received across the country. speech seemed to go down very well


in the hall? I am delighted. This is what brought me into politics,


to bring people together. I welcome and celebrate the speech that we


heard from Ed Miliband. I believe we are a bit closer to Downing


Street at the end of that speech than we were at the beginning.


Maybe one - if you are going to quote Conservative history, you


need to get it right. My understanding is Benjamin Disraeli


did not use the "one nation" phrase in his speech. He also said, "Keep


an eye on Paisley." You are right - that wasn't Disraeli. Go and do


your homework! Read Civil - good to see you. All right. We better end


this before everyone switches off! Thank you. Thank you.


Remember not to have a fight with you over what Disraeli said or


didn't say. The question the nation is asking how he managed to finish


two bottles of brandy and finish his speech? That is water?!


Hope so. There was a warm reception for Ed


Miliband today in the hall. Adam has some delegates with him.


Afternoon. We are taking a leaf out of Ed Miliband's book and doing


this unplanned. We are going to grab people randomly. I will go


this way. Hello. You are live on the Daily Politics. What did you


think of the speech? Marks out of ten? 11. That is not possible!


least ten. What was the highlight? I thought the highlight was towards


the end of the speech where he made the commitment about the NHS. That


was absolutely brilliant. I think the whole thing was good in that


the one nation message was very firmly put down, and we knew


exactly where he was going. That was the speech of the next Prime


Minister. Guys, what was it like hearing about his background?


Apparently, he went to a comprehensive school? So did we!


Brilliant. His personality came through. He did really well. Just -


it wasn't set out as structured, but he went off the mark,


especially with the NHS and his message to the banks, which was


important. They are happy with the Tory-bashing. Hello there. What


would you give the speech out of ten? Very uplifting. He gave his


vision. His message to the country - he will bring this country back


to where it should be. What does "one nation" mean? Practice? Well,


we are all - like Cameron said, we are all in it together - we aren't.


There are them and us. Ed will bring this nation like we were


after the war, we came back from nothing and we will come back after


this lot have gone. Good stuff. How about you? What is your definition


of what "one nation" means? means everyone moving in the same


direction, with the same aims and targets in life. That's what it


means to me. I thought it was quite interesting that he introduced


something that was devised by a Conservative Prime Minister,


Disraeli, in Manchester, as he said. It was a very good speech. I would


give it nine out of ten. Nobody makes a perfect speech, do they?


The audience lapped it up. I did enjoy it. Thank you. Thank you. I


have spotted somebody I spoke to doing the Daily Politics Mood Box


the other day. You are a former Tory. Now Ed Miliband is quoting


Disraeli? I know. I fought the last election against Michael Howard in


2005. I fought because I was so horrified at what had happened to


the Conservative Party. Disraeli would have been horrified. Ted


Heath, John Major, they would have been horrified at what happened to


that party. It was no longer a party of one nation. It was a party


which divided the whole country. Now, we've got a party of one


nation. We are all fighting, should be fighting, for the same things.


OK. Are you looking forward to selling the one nation concept on


the doorstep, delivering leaflets? Definitely. We want a nation as a


Labour Party that are fighting altogether, equal opportunities in


law, and this is why I joined the Labour Party. This is the attitude


and I am really excited to be fighting for Ed Miliband to be


Prime Minister, fighting for the one nation Government under his


leadership. We are gathering quite a crowd here. Who wanted to say


something about the delivery of the speech? The delivery was great. He


didn't say anything of substance. He threw out a load of buzzwords -


one nation this, and rebuilding that, blah blah. We are having an


argument here now! No, don't interrupt. Some real ideas for...


It is called debate! They have got on to this infrastructure bandwagon.


What would you say? This Government is trying to divide the South from


the North. We have regional pay on the table. People who aren't


working are being made to be demonised, or if you are disabled.


It is not right to divide people. don't disagree with that. I love


the idea... Why don't you two carry on. I will talk to one more person.


What you got today was a very happy, a very confident, a very relaxed Ed.


An Ed that would take people forward and was confident. That is


the difference. It might have been missing in years before. It wasn't


today. How do you think he learnt the speech? I think because he's


passionate, he is able to connect with with with people and he has


very good people skills. Good skills of memory! And good skills


of memory also. And I think he positioned the party very well.


Right. We have run out of time. Thank you very much. It was very


hot in that hall. These fans have lasers built into them! I need to


bring the heat down! You were keeping cool under


pressure. That is all the BBC can afford for


air-conditioning! Thank you very much. John, is that


the sort of speech or were there parts of that speech that Tony


Blair could have made? Yes. Could he have made all of it?


and Clinton and people like that have been great communicators. They


have been accessible. They have been able to speak in a language


that others have been able to identify with. Ed Miliband has


never been seen like that. That is why today was a bit of a revelation.


That was the question that many in the media had placed over his


speech. A good speech should educate, it should inspire and it


should point direction - leadership. I think there were substantial


elements of all of that today. The education part was actually about


Ed Miliband himself. That was the questions that were being asked -


what is this guy like? Can he communicate? Is he a geek? He


answered that. It was inspiring. Yes, it is an old theme. But the


one nation is of particular relevance in times of adversity.


It's caught on. It has caught on because people know the country is


in adversity at the moment. There's a long recession in front of us.


Many difficult choices. I think the contrast of his approach today and


some of the actions of the present Coalition Government I think is


pretty obvious. The final... What about aspiration? Was there enough


aspirational politics in there to speak to the country and not just


the Labour Party? Yes. That is important. The key thing that


changed with Labour in the '90s was to stop being identified as only


the party of the disadvantaged. And to look towards and relate to


working people who were ambitious for themselves and the kids. There


was a large section today that said half of our population doesn't go


to university. It doesn't mean to say they are worthless or without


ambition. I thought the material he had on education, the proposals on


that, for the other 50% of the population were right on the button


with the aspirations and the ambitions of many families in this


country who don't see their children going to university, but


they think they can make a huge contribution. Incidentally...


Making it more worthwhile in terms of technical qualifications? Giving


them a status because incidentally this is of a huge benefit to the


country as well. I think we grossly undervalue apprenticeships, we did


a lot during the last Government, we don't do enough. Education for


non-university students. Even at universities, engineering, science


subjects and things like that. That is why I am so pleased with the


speech. You were surprised? You didn't think it would be as good as


that? It is not that I didn't think it would be add good - well, to be


truthful, I didn't think his presentation would be add -- would


be as good - well, to be truthful, I didn't think his presentation


would be as good. I was more pleased about the positioning of


the Labour Party. I have always been worried that in the last few


years of the last Government and the early stages of opposition that


we could move to the left. To see him identifying with ordinary


people who want to see their ambitions for their children


fulfilled, as well as protecting the disadvantaged, that was very


encouraging. Not good news for these militant union leaders?


it isn't. I think that he has carried - he's managed to combine


two things. He's managed to combine change with continuity from New


Labour. I'm happy with that. The essence of New Labour was continual


renewal. I think he's managed to renew ourselves in the context of


today rather than in the 1990s when people like myself were formulating


policy, but to do so by keeping himself in a central position to


appeal right across society and across the regions and nations of


the country. What has he got to do with the unions now? That is the


challenge for him, isn't it? It's how to on the one hand keep them on


side when they are saying, "Get rid of all the New Labour cuckoos out


of the nest" and talking about strike action because they are the


backers, they are the big Labour Party backers and this aspirational


Labour Party? He has to do what every successful Leader of the


Labour Party has done. He has to talk to the trade unionship and...


There's a difference. People in this country, whatever they are


working in, or even if they are out of work, they understand we have


borrowed a lot of money to prevent unemployment scaling out of control


during the recession. They also recognise it has to be paid off.


You will not persuade them to do so unless they think that everyone is


making a sacrifice and as he said, the one with the broadest shoulders


are wearing the burden. That is the key. We have to put our viewers out


of their misery and give them the answer to Guess The Conference Year


competition. It was 1981. John, if you thump that red button, the


winner will come up. Go! There we go. John Robertson from Paisley.


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